Re: Gnome 3 Fallback Mode forked
2013/1/20 Mark Allums m...@allums.com: Slashdot reported that SolusOS has announced a fork of the Gnome 3 Fallback Mode. It is designed to bring back the mode that was cut from Gnome 3 with version 3.8. Like the original fallback mode, it uses gtk3 and does not require hardware acceleration. It also allows a lot of old GNOME 2 goodies to be used again. Is there the slightest chance of getting something like this into Debian? I really like fallback mode, and if it works as well as it sounds, it would be the answer to everyone's prayers. For instance, I run a lot of X desktops under virtualization, and this sounds ideal for that. I considered opening a wish list bug, but I thought I would get some feedback first. Comments? Consort is the best Gnome 3 desktop out there and it would be a very good Idea to have it available. http://solusos.com/blog/category/solus-news/ Did you try the last SolusOs Alfa 6? You'll be happily surprised when you test it. Cheers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cagzenoej5h8lapjwjxrhciovhsc5oz4c8rwocim5cpr-3au...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Gnome 3 Fallback Mode forked
2013/1/20 Yaro Kasear y...@marupa.net: On 01/20/2013 06:35 AM, Mark Allums wrote: Slashdot reported that SolusOS has announced a fork of the Gnome 3 Fallback Mode. It is designed to bring back the mode that was cut from Gnome 3 with version 3.8. Like the original fallback mode, it uses gtk3 and does not require hardware acceleration. It also allows a lot of old GNOME 2 goodies to be used again. Is there the slightest chance of getting something like this into Debian? I really like fallback mode, and if it works as well as it sounds, it would be the answer to everyone's prayers. For instance, I run a lot of X desktops under virtualization, and this sounds ideal for that. I considered opening a wish list bug, but I thought I would get some feedback first. Comments? Um... isn't this basically just Cinnamon? Consort Desktop is not Cinnamon. Consort Desktop is the best clone of Gnome 2 using pure GTK3. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAGZeNodZ=Q-gD9T5biTYg7Ro3sannU8+JXvKJD4c4=y4axm...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian muy personalizado
El día 24 de junio de 2012 02:31, Polo Oyarzún correo...@gmail.com escribió: Estimados: Me dispongo a instalar Debian en una máquina obsoleta a la que Xfce le queda grande y pesado. Para ello pienso irme paquete por paquete desde el sistema base en adelante. Topo en que no sé los nombres de los paquetes de software que necesitaré para que el sistema me pueda reconocer automáticamente los pendrives por usb y los cds. Muy agradecido por vuestra orientación Yo he conseguido instalar squeeze en un portátil pentium 2 con 64MB de RAM y 8GB de disco duro. Me tengo que olvidar de la multitarea y abrir solo un programa a la vez eso es cierto. Pero funciona, que es algo que yo no me esperaba. Hay algún programa de gnome que no se ve bien y es mejor olvidarse de instalarlo como por ejemplo el gnome-system-monitor y conformarse con otro equivalente mas ligero. Eso si, lo instale a pasos, primero el sistema base y al principio sin X reales con el sucedáneo fbdev y en vez de GDM3 qingy (quitando ttys, quedándome solo con dos normales y una qingy) e ICEWM. Pero luego vi que para XFCE no hacia falta y que sin fbdev y con gdm que se instala automáticamente va bien y no gasta mucho mas en recursos que (fbdev, qingy, icewm) . También probé LXDE que en squeeze es mucho mas pesado que XFCE, no conseguí hacerlo funcionar decentemente, tampoco openbox funcionaba. Cada vez que quiero hacer update/upgrade le paro las X para que no se eternice demasiado usando solo la consola. No se si estos pasos te pueden ayudar: http://auriza.site40.net/notes/debian/xfce-minimal-installation-on-squeeze/ Suerte. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAGZeNocb-FZGYBzkTbA+__aRChb_H+cOgzKZ-P0waHwa0S°q...@mail.gmail.com
Re: 2TB USB hard drive for backing up
2012/5/4 Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de: What kernel is this? Debian Wheezy 3.2.0-1-686-pae This only works with util-linux fdisk not gnu-fdisk. I have util-linux installed but I can't find the fdisk you said support -c switch. Ah. I would try a newer kernel. ;) I've tried the newest on live-cds and on Wheezy but I don't see it working. Cheers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cagzenodoy6bkfcxew5nmkaid8jqa8mhfvgju6ph7jsw8d1z...@mail.gmail.com
Re: 2TB USB hard drive for backing up
2012/4/30 Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de:
Am Montag, 30. April 2012 schrieb Ellwood Blues:
2012/4/30 Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de:
Am Montag, 30. April 2012 schrieb Chris Bannister:
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 08:27:03PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Hmmm, I´d avoid those with 4 KB hardware sectors that lie to the
OS they have 512 byte sectors. Although I think even those should
work. But with 512 byte sectors you have a 2 TB limit when you
use MBR partitioning.
3 TB disks with 4 KB sectors both hardware (physical) and software
(logical) should just work, provided the Linux is new enough.
On Squeeze use -cu as additional options (see manpage).
Sorry for jumping in here, but I can't figure out (from your post)
which command requires the additional options: -cu. Which manpage?
fdisk. Sorry if I didn´t mention it anywhere in my post.
Thanks, I've tried everything but not success. The problem is that the
disk is already half full and aligned with WD tools. I am just waiting
for linux to be able to read it and write it as efficiently as Windows
does it, at the moment I am not able to read it, which is very
frustrating.
I would like to see some information from the disk, like
- relevant stuff from hdparm -I /dev/yourdisk (feel free to skip serial
number if you do not want to post it here)
- fdisk -cul /dev/yourdisk
- tail -fn0 /var/log/syslog / dmesg when the kernel detects the disk
for starters.
You need to use GPT if the disk reports 512 byte sectors to the OS. Thats
no problem, when its just a data disk. Try gdisk on the disk.
Sorry for the delay. Her you have what you've asked attached as files
and as text on the message:
/dev/sdf:
ATA device, with non-removable media
Model Number: WDC WD30EZRX-00MMMB0
Serial Number: WD-WCAWZxxx
Firmware Revision: 80.00A80
Transport: Serial, SATA 1.0a, SATA II Extensions, SATA Rev
2.5, SATA Rev 2.6, SATA Rev 3.0
Standards:
Supported: 8 7 6 5
Likely used: 8
Configuration:
Logical max current
cylinders 16383 16383
heads 16 16
sectors/track 63 63
--
CHS current addressable sectors: 16514064
LBAuser addressable sectors: 268435455
LBA48 user addressable sectors: 5860533168
Logical Sector size: 512 bytes
Physical Sector size: 4096 bytes
Logical Sector-0 offset: 0 bytes
device size with M = 1024*1024: 2861588 MBytes
device size with M = 1000*1000: 3000592 MBytes (3000 GB)
cache/buffer size = unknown
Capabilities:
LBA, IORDY(can be disabled)
Queue depth: 32
Standby timer values: spec'd by Standard, with device specific minimum
R/W multiple sector transfer: Max = 16 Current = 0
DMA: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5 *udma6
Cycle time: min=120ns recommended=120ns
PIO: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
Cycle time: no flow control=120ns IORDY flow control=120ns
Commands/features:
Enabled Supported:
*SMART feature set
Security Mode feature set
*Power Management feature set
*Write cache
*Look-ahead
*Host Protected Area feature set
*WRITE_BUFFER command
*READ_BUFFER command
*NOP cmd
*DOWNLOAD_MICROCODE
Power-Up In Standby feature set
*SET_FEATURES required to spinup after power up
SET_MAX security extension
*48-bit Address feature set
*Device Configuration Overlay feature set
*Mandatory FLUSH_CACHE
*FLUSH_CACHE_EXT
*SMART error logging
*SMART self-test
*General Purpose Logging feature set
*64-bit World wide name
*{READ,WRITE}_DMA_EXT_GPL commands
*Segmented DOWNLOAD_MICROCODE
*Gen1 signaling speed (1.5Gb/s)
*Gen2 signaling speed (3.0Gb/s)
*Gen3 signaling speed (6.0Gb/s)
*Native Command Queueing (NCQ)
*Host-initiated interface power management
*Phy event counters
*NCQ priority information
DMA Setup Auto-Activate optimization
*Software settings preservation
*SMART Command Transport (SCT) feature set
*SCT LBA Segment Access (AC2)
*SCT Features Control (AC4)
*SCT Data Tables (AC5)
unknown 206[12] (vendor specific)
unknown 206[13] (vendor specific)
Security:
Master password revision code = 65534
supported
not enabled
Re: 2TB USB hard drive for backing up
2012/4/30 Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de: Am Montag, 30. April 2012 schrieb Ellwood Blues: 2012/4/30 Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de: Am Montag, 30. April 2012 schrieb Chris Bannister: On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 08:27:03PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Hmmm, I´d avoid those with 4 KB hardware sectors that lie to the OS they have 512 byte sectors. Although I think even those should work. But with 512 byte sectors you have a 2 TB limit when you use MBR partitioning. 3 TB disks with 4 KB sectors both hardware (physical) and software (logical) should just work, provided the Linux is new enough. On Squeeze use -cu as additional options (see manpage). Sorry for jumping in here, but I can't figure out (from your post) which command requires the additional options: -cu. Which manpage? fdisk. Sorry if I didn´t mention it anywhere in my post. Thanks, I've tried everything but not success. The problem is that the disk is already half full and aligned with WD tools. I am just waiting for linux to be able to read it and write it as efficiently as Windows does it, at the moment I am not able to read it, which is very frustrating. I would like to see some information from the disk, like - relevant stuff from hdparm -I /dev/yourdisk (feel free to skip serial number if you do not want to post it here) - fdisk -cul /dev/yourdisk - tail -fn0 /var/log/syslog / dmesg when the kernel detects the disk for starters. You need to use GPT if the disk reports 512 byte sectors to the OS. Thats no problem, when its just a data disk. Try gdisk on the disk. Thanks. I can't do it right now. I think tomorrow I'll send what you want. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cagzenofuddiq0kmagyfjnk_b41+1-envqplthb_zjszzh-r...@mail.gmail.com
Re: 2TB USB hard drive for backing up
2012/4/30 Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de: Am Montag, 30. April 2012 schrieb Chris Bannister: On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 08:27:03PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Hmmm, I´d avoid those with 4 KB hardware sectors that lie to the OS they have 512 byte sectors. Although I think even those should work. But with 512 byte sectors you have a 2 TB limit when you use MBR partitioning. 3 TB disks with 4 KB sectors both hardware (physical) and software (logical) should just work, provided the Linux is new enough. On Squeeze use -cu as additional options (see manpage). Sorry for jumping in here, but I can't figure out (from your post) which command requires the additional options: -cu. Which manpage? fdisk. Sorry if I didn´t mention it anywhere in my post. Thanks, I've tried everything but not success. The problem is that the disk is already half full and aligned with WD tools. I am just waiting for linux to be able to read it and write it as efficiently as Windows does it, at the moment I am not able to read it, which is very frustrating. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAGZeNoc82T0jS=sg3d2umqi6pjawjokjqk2rbuk+qfazn3p...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Anyway of keeping gnome2 while upgrading from Squeeze to Wheezy
Please post on the list, if you prefer so. Wait for Mate 1.2.3 because there is a bug with a library that blocks partially the upgrades on Wheezy, at the moment I am on Wheezy with Mate 1.2.0 and I've read that it the bug is fixed on 1.2.3 version. After that it should be smooth and easy. Anyway everything is working OK on my system apart from the upgrades. http://mate-desktop.org/install/#debian 2012/4/30 James Allsopp jamesaalls...@googlemail.com: Hi, Sorry for the delay, I was OP on this but was away for the weekend. I run LXDE and XFCE on my other linux machines, but whilst good they seem to lack the polish of Gnome 2. I also tried KDE4 but seemed to run very slowly on my Core2duo. I'd used gnome for about nine years and did all of my research using it, so I'm very disappointed with what I've heard about gnome 3. It doesn't even seem like Gnome 3 has been finished yet to release standards from what I have read. I seems like Mate is the best option, so if anyone knows a good guide for getting this set up on Wheezy, I'd be grateful. Also does anyone know anything about cinnamon on Debian? Thanks, James On 28/04/12 19:47, Ellwood Blues wrote: So thanks but no, I will be be loyal to GNOME until they decide to take a radical path I can't deal with (like it happened when I moved from KDE 3 to GNOME 2 because of the poor state of KDE 4.0). So you will be loyal but Gnome won't? I think that that mentality will kill linux. As Jono Bacon said recently «Canonical used to be a project but now is a product.» I am sorry but I prefer on linux the project mentality. Products are Windows and Apple and Android and Unity, etc. Happy that Debian is still there. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAGZeNofn=vquyld-po5lzizog6ehea6ot2rdwg34wye9ncz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Anyway of keeping gnome2 while upgrading from Squeeze to Wheezy
2012/4/29 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: the final decision on what to use and how to use it is always on the user's side. Greetings, I agree with that. Cheers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cagzenocqgny0z3zzuqe2cprogxopin8yvqp+op6jqyhgmuv...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Anyway of keeping gnome2 while upgrading from Squeeze to Wheezy
2012/4/27 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net: On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 17:26 +0100, Ellwood Blues wrote: http://mate-desktop.org/install/#debian No experiences here, but I heard that it shouldn't be a good successor of GNOME2. I am deciding now which one is may favourite: Xfce or Mate, right now I am on Mate and I love it. I am also interested on Jwm (pure Linux old school, without BS, light and fast as light and without BS ). As linus said «We need a Gnome 2 fork» and in my opinion the name of this fork is «Mate», we need Mate obviously. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAGZeNoeAyx14urntdGdu9QWpGQqu_pP=pHaVO7PBAtF1VtWF=g...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Anyway of keeping gnome2 while upgrading from Squeeze to Wheezy
So thanks but no, I will be be loyal to GNOME until they decide to take a radical path I can't deal with (like it happened when I moved from KDE 3 to GNOME 2 because of the poor state of KDE 4.0). So you will be loyal but Gnome won't? I think that that mentality will kill linux. As Jono Bacon said recently «Canonical used to be a project but now is a product.» I am sorry but I prefer on linux the project mentality. Products are Windows and Apple and Android and Unity, etc. Happy that Debian is still there. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cagzenofzxniyo4whrcmggixvsr_i4vn3hmf8hl4znd1duoe...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Anyway of keeping gnome2 while upgrading from Squeeze to Wheezy
2012/4/26 James Allsopp jamesaalls...@googlemail.com: Hello, I want to update from Squeeze to Wheezy but want to avoid Gnome 3 at all costs, is there a way of doing this successfully? Thanks James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f99bb0e.8000...@googlemail.com Mate Desktop. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAGZeNochrhRfS+eVPGXh7_hD07XScu3t8vy0DGyCSZ=kcmu...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Anyway of keeping gnome2 while upgrading from Squeeze to Wheezy
012/4/27 Mika Suomalainen mika.henrik.mai...@hotmail.com: On 27.04.2012 13:56, Ellwood Blues wrote: 2012/4/26 James Allsopp jamesaalls...@googlemail.com: Hello, I want to update from Squeeze to Wheezy but want to avoid Gnome 3 at all costs, is there a way of doing this successfully? Thanks James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f99bb0e.8000...@googlemail.com Mate Desktop. Is it packaged in Debian yet? I cannot seem to find it with aptitude search mate on Sid. -- Mika Suomalainen gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 4DB53CFE82A46728 Key fingerprint = 24BC 1573 B8EE D666 D10A AA65 4DB5 3CFE 82A4 6728 http://mate-desktop.org/install/#debian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAGZeNodvo8JLe7zof=jfjo3zbmd6b-jgdn6oarerfmsfmvx...@mail.gmail.com
Re: 2TB USB hard drive for backing up
If you want to be happy and trouble-free, try to avoid «Advanced Format» disks. I have 2TB disks and 1.5TB too that work perfectly but I've made the mistake to buy a 3TB WD Caviar Green («Advanced Format») which I can only use on Windows as a 3TB disk, Linux only detects about 780MB if I remember well. Try to not make the same mistake. 2012/4/21 Sian Mountbatten poenik...@fastmail.co.uk: I am going to buy a big USB hard drive to backup films, music and photos. In fact, I might backup the system (at least, the list of packages installed). Anybody out there tried a 2TB USB hard drive? What did you use as filing system. I am intending to use ext4. Any comments? -- Sian Mountbatten ex-Algol 68 specialist -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jmunm9$90r$2...@speranza.aioe.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAGZeNodQTkb0osZKhbttr8n9Q6sNmLAZLSv=fp82nbngqku...@mail.gmail.com
