Re: [OT] First computer (was Re: LVM)
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:15:37PM -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote: There was also a TI something back then. TI-99/4A represent! (I will also accept props from TI-99/4 users... begrudgingly) Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca w: http://feds.ca/ To Serve, Empower, and Represent the Undergraduate Students of the University of Waterloo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100617184612.ge2...@wks0082
[OT] Proof pudding (was: overcoming the 32k objects limit is ext3 - which file system to use?)
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 02:15:21PM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: and the proof is in the pudding ;-) Actually, the etymology of that phrase is really interesting, because if you think about it, unless it's an alcoholised pudding, there's no proof. The full saying is: The proof of the pudding is in the eating, which actually makes sense. The More You Know. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca w: http://feds.ca/ To Serve, Empower, and Represent the Undergraduate Students of the University of Waterloo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100426154533.gb2...@wks0082
Re: use preseeding for one package
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 03:57:34PM +0100, Chantal Rosmuller wrote: Hi list, can I use preseeding for installing one package unattended (not a whole debian installation)? Hi Chantal, What are you trying to accomplish? Preseeding is used for installation. Are you trying to install one package to an already installed system? Do you want this to happen automatically? If that's the case, you may want to look into puppet, chef, bcfg2, or cfengine. (I recommend puppet myself). Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100304144037.gd24...@wks0082
Re: DNS (BIND)primario y secundario
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 07:57:06AM -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: cosme put forth on 3/3/2010 7:00 AM: DNS (BIND)primario y secundario ALguien que tenga algún manual para configurar dos servidores con DNS primario y secundario en Debian Lenny o algún sitio al respecto que tenga un how to a algo similar Que me pueda facilitar Saludos Lista Cosme Are all Cubans this stupid? Cosme, again, this is the _ENGLISH_ Debian User list, _NOT_ the Spanish list. How many times must you be told not to post to this list in Spanish? Use the damn Spanish Debian User list, or post in _ENGLISH_. Please! Stan, Why the vitriol? Yes, people who speak other languages sometimes post to this list. If you're that concerned, maybe you should petition to have the list name changed to debian-user-english, to avoid confusion. Could someone who speaks Spanish please apologize to the OP and direct them to debian-user-spanish. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100303145051.gx24...@wks0082
Re: Fresh Debian Install w/o Exim?
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 02:59:23PM -0500, Carlos Williams wrote: I am trying to install Debian (Testing) via 'netinst' disk and for some reason am completely unable to install Debian w/o Exim. It appears that Cron is a default package and depends on Exim. Does anyone know how I can completely omit this from a fresh Debian install? When I run: It's been a while since I've used the installer (I preseed my installations at the office), but isn't there a point in expert mode where you can select individual packages? Could you select 'postfix' and unselect 'exim4' at that point? Or is that after the base system install? Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100302154115.gr24...@wks0082
Re: Setting bootable flag on partition non-interactively.
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 02:14:55PM -0600, Tim Legg wrote: Hello all, Any suggestions on how to set a bootable flag non-interactively? Reason: I am creating a kiosk that restores itself from a saved image every time the machine is booted. A while ago I created a kiosk workstation that booted from PXE, downloaded its root file system if newer (which was just squashfs, thus non-writable), and then did a unionfs mount (I think these days you'd use aufs) to run. It was a really elegant solution that worked well. Unfortunately, I don't have those kiosks in operation anymore and their code is lost to the winds, but I can try to give tips if you want to try to build one this way. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: string occurrences
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 04:11:03PM -0600, Brian Ryans wrote: Quoting roberto on 2010-01-23 15:33:53: is there any linux built-in utilities to count how many times a string occur in a text file ? I don't know of any actual utilities to do so, but there's a handy little pipeline that I use as a generic string-counter that, so far, works for all files I've tried, printable or not. $ strings $yourFile | grep -oe '$yourString' | wc -l It's a bit nitpicky, but you could save a step and a few keystrokes with: $ strings $yourFile | grep -oce '$yourString' Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [SOT] Preview pane settings Icedove/ Thunderbird
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 04:23:10PM -0500, Tim Tebbit wrote: AG wrote: In Icedove (Thunderbird) v2.0.0.22 on Debian testing is there an option to automatically jump to the bottom of an email using the preview pane to read it? Anybody been able to make that happen, and if so how? Not that I am aware of. space is more than fast enough for me. Between space, n, and t I have nearly mouse free operation. If you really want to go keyboard-only there's Muttator (http://vimperator.org/muttator). I've never used it (happily using mutt itself), but I loves my vimperator. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: only scp
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:35:25PM +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sat,16.Jan.10, 21:12:17, Vadkan Jozsef wrote: anybody got any tips/howtos/docs for this?: - restrict the users, to only use scp [no shell] - but a root, admin can still login with ssh apt-cache show scponly or 'rssh'. I don't know which is better, though. I like rssh, but if you don't mind restricting to SFTP only, you can do it natively in SSH since 4.9. Instructions here: http://www.minstrel.org.uk/papers/sftp/builtin Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Unable to start tightvncserver
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:07:57AM +0530, Foss User wrote: foss...@squeeze:~$ ps -aef | grep 4847 fossist 4987 3680 0 00:02 pts/300:00:00 grep 4847 foss...@squeeze:~$ netstat -na | grep tcp | grep 59 foss...@squeeze:~$ If you run the ps command again at this point, is it still running (btw, pgrep is helpful for this type of command)? Have you check the vncserver logs (I can't recall off the top of my head where they are... maybe ~/.vnc)? I assume you have network interfaces up and running. Otherwise... you got me stumped. That's a good one. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: preseed with two hard disks
{ } \
use_filesystem{ } \
filesystem{ ext3 } \
mountpoint{ /tmp } .\
1024 2048 2560 ext3 \
$lvmok{ } \
in_vg{ vgmain } \
lv_name{ var } \
method{ format }\
format{ } \
use_filesystem{ } \
filesystem{ ext3 } \
mountpoint{ /var } .\
512 1024 1536 ext3 \
$lvmok{ } \
in_vg{ vgmain } \
lv_name{ var_log } \
method{ format }\
format{ } \
use_filesystem{ } \
filesystem{ ext3 } \
mountpoint{ /var/log } .\
512 5000 50 linux-swap \
$lvmok{ } \
in_vg{ vgswap } \
lv_name{ swap } \
method{ swap } \
format{ } .
# These are just to get rid of prompts
d-i partman/confirm_write_new_label boolean true
d-i partman/choose_partition \
select Finish partitioning and write changes to disk
d-i partman/confirm boolean true
### END Partitioning
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Re: puppet client etch 0.20.1 on Server Lenny 0.24.5
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 02:51:00PM +0100, Anthony BERGER wrote: Hi everybody, I try to install an new version of puppetmaster on a debian lenny system. I already have in infrastructure based on an etch server, and now, i want to upgrade on Lenny. It seems that some troubles appear want i try to execute the puppet ETCH client on the new puppetmaster LENNY server. Is it possible to use à 0.20.1 client on a 0.24.5 server? Unfortunately, this is impossible. You need to upgrade all of your clients to the same version of puppet that you use on your server. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian preseed: How to choose the hdd for partman?
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 02:38:23PM +0200, Gerolf Ziegenhain wrote: Problem: The problem is now, that reference (b) in the snipplet doesn't choose disk1 aka sdb - even though the disk is recognized after the additional modules have been loaded (I verified this in another console). The installer always uses the scheme for sda - aka the usb stick and the debian stuff is installed on my installation-usb-stick... How can I configure the hdd choice - the snipplet above is extracted from the example of the debian website and obiously doesn't work. Maybe this part of the installer is evaluated, before the hdd-controller modules are loaded and therefore no sdb exists yet? Is there any way to debug stuff like this? Or is there a more elegant way to exclude just the usb stick (by uuid) from the partman-choices? Additional question: Further I'm wondering if there is another way to delete old partitions automatically. In reference (a) in the snipplet I try to do this the hard way. By the way: Also this line is not working. It has been extracted from my old patched initrd-scheme. I was going to suggest what you've already done, so I'm no help :-( But if no one else gives you a good answer here in the next few days, you could *try* debian-boot. I'm not on that list, so I don't know how they'd respond to a query like this, but it could be worth a shot. Maybe someone who's on both lists could give further direction. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Mouse not sync'd with pointer
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 08:38:49AM -0700, Robert Patton wrote: - Original Message From: Eric Gerlach egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 4:55:52 PM Subject: Re: Mouse not sync'd with pointer On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 06:23:04PM -0700, Robert Patton wrote: I just installed Lenny in a VMware Player virtual machine and the pointer does not match up with the mouse. There is a x and y offset from where the mouse x-y is and where the desktop (gnome) places the pointer. This makes navigating the desktop extremely difficult. Has anyone seen this problem before? What do I do to get the pointer to be placed where the mouse coordinates are? What OS is on the host? The guest? Do you have VMWare tools installed on the guest? Cheers, The host OS is Windows-XP on a Dell Latitude D630, the Guest OS is Debian Linux (Lenny). The mouse works find in windows, when I move into the Linux Window the pointer is not at the mouse coordinates. VMWare tools are not installed on the guest. (Reordered to preferred, bottom-posting reply) Try installing the VMWare Tools. They help with keyboard/mouse/timer interrupt things. If that doesn't fix it, then you'll probably have better luck with support on the VMWare forums than here. (I can't help much more than this, none of my Linux guests have X on them). Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Mouse not sync'd with pointer
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 06:23:04PM -0700, Robert Patton wrote: I just installed Lenny in a VMware Player virtual machine and the pointer does not match up with the mouse. There is a x and y offset from where the mouse x-y is and where the desktop (gnome) places the pointer. This makes navigating the desktop extremely difficult. Has anyone seen this problem before? What do I do to get the pointer to be placed where the mouse coordinates are? What OS is on the host? The guest? Do you have VMWare tools installed on the guest? Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: make deb file
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 06:54:42PM +0200, Emanoil Kotsev wrote: Umarzuki Mochlis wrote: to make a deb file from source i have to run make checkinstall, but how about a deb files containing scripts to be distributed to various directories? read the documentation and ask again To be a bit more specific, you can look at the Debian Developer's Reference, specifically chapters 5 and 6. They give a lot of info on the packaging process. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/index.en.html Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Safe-upgrade of dash fails
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 09:05:56AM +0200, Jack Knowlton wrote: On Thu, August 6, 2009 8:02 am, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2009-08-06 00:11 +0200, Jack Knowlton wrote: Coming back from a month-long trip, I decided to safe-upgrade my debian unstable desktop. Among the hundreds of new packages, apt seemed eager to install (or upgrade, I'm not sure) dash. This is intended. Unfortunately, something seems to have gone terribly wrong and I would like to complete successfully the upgrade before rebooting the box. Here's what aptitude is complaining about: Unpacking dash (from .../dash_0.5.5.1-2.3_amd64.deb) ... Adding `diversion of /bin/sh to /bin/sh.distrib by dash' Adding `diversion of /usr/share/man/man1/sh.1.gz to /usr/share/man/man1/sh.distrib.1.gz by dash' dpkg (subprocess): unable to exec dpkg-deb to get filesystem archive: No such file or directory That sounds as if you had lost dpkg-deb, which would be very worrisome. Did you upgrade dpkg as well, and did anything go wrong with it? Check whether /usr/bin/dpkg-deb exists and is executable, and look into /var/log/dpkg.log for recently installed/upgraded/removed packages. Sven Fortunately, after a little digging, I found out aptitude symlinked /bin/sh - dash before actually installing it. Now everything's cool again :D -JK That *could* be a bug. It may be worth looking to see if anyone else has seen it, and filing it if no-one has. Of course, if this is the wrong course of action, I'm sure someone will correct me. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Mail transfer agent and Active Directory
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 01:34:09PM +0200, pch0317 wrote: Hello I have 150 users in my network. I want to change MsExchange to open MTA. 1. Is there any open MTA which cooperate with Active Directory or eDirectory? I don't want to create 150 user account. I would like to it still work even when Active Directory password change (password change every month). If you use Samba with Winbind, the accounts will be sought from the AD, so you don't have to create them on your box. That's how we're doing it right now with Postfix/Dovecot. postfix-ldap works too though, as already mentioned. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Installation on Intel Core i7
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 11:17:11AM +0800, Timothy Wu wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 2009-08-03 09:48, Timothy Wu wrote: The same horizontal bar appears when successfully booting the Ubuntu live CD, though it quickly disappeared. My guess is that it's part of the normal booting process. Oh yeah, this is an important detail: grub which was installed on MBR didn't even appear. It seemed to get stuck right after the self tests. I am not sure what version of kernel, but I downloaded from AMD64 version of Ubuntu and Debian just today. Maybe your BIOS is configured to look at the wrong HDD. That's a very easy mistake to make, especially if all your drives are the same make/model. Do you mean in the boot sequence? All three disks are in the boot sequence. Make sure that you don't have any USB drives plugged in that could hijack the boot sequence. I've been caught off-guard by that one before. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Back up routines
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 02:21:21AM -0400, Scott Gifford wrote: Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net writes: On 2009-07-27_17:55:18, Eric Gerlach wrote: [...] Oh, and S3 storage is cheap. $0.15/GB/mo, plus $0.10/GB upload/download. [...] Renting is easier, but I wonder how long the web based services will be in business. S3 is run by Amazon, and Amazon has been around for longer than most hard drives I've had. Even if Amazon went bankrupt every 5 years, it would still have an MTBF comparable to most hard drives. :-) Yeah, I'm hardly worried that Amazon is going to go out of business. And if JungleDisk does, well I have their open-source decrypter downloaded for just such an occasion. Given that they were bought by RackSpace, though, I'm not worried about that either. If you want to TNO, go ahead, but in the real world I don't need that. On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 01:32:36AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-07-28 01:21, Scott Gifford wrote: Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net writes: On 2009-07-27_17:55:18, Eric Gerlach wrote: [...] Oh, and S3 storage is cheap. $0.15/GB/mo, plus $0.10/GB upload/download. A 1TB HDD from NewEgg is $0.085/GB once, and you own it, and $0.00/GB to upload/download. 2TB drives are the outrageous price of $0.115/GB. Sure. Let's go with 1TB for $90. Now I have to make sure the client brings the drive in, backs up, and takes it home every day. Try explaining to them why that isn't worth the $3/mo that that Amazon charges them. You won't be getting paid for that consulting advice, that's for sure. Also, at $3/mo, that's almost three years before I've paid the equivalent amount of a 1 TB drive. Plus, you have to spend the money up front, and with an opportunity cost of 10%, that extends the repayment time to 35 months. That's near the end of the warranty. I'm not going to keep vital backups on a HD that old. JungleDisk isn't about HD failure backup. It's about off-site backup, while being painless for the person using it. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Back up routines
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:02:06AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-07-28 09:18, Eric Gerlach wrote: [snip] Sure. Let's go with 1TB for $90. Now I have to make sure the client brings the drive in, backs up, and takes it home every day. Try explaining to them why that isn't worth the $3/mo that that Amazon charges them. You won't be getting paid for that consulting advice, that's for sure. [snip] JungleDisk isn't about HD failure backup. It's about off-site backup, while being painless for the person using it. Woe is fricking me! My granfather and his accountant were alternately bringing home 13 disk packs 30 years ago. They've obviously got newer hardware now (tape drives), and he's passed on, but the blazingly simple task is still the same: bring your important data off-site every night. It's just Something You Do. s/do/used to do/ Sure, your grandfather did it, but give any small-business owner these two choices: 1. Every day, bring this drive in, plug it in, run this program, then take it home at night; or 2. Pay Amazon $3/mo and don't worry about it; and I bet over 80% of them choose #2. They'll say The time it takes me to do that for one week is worth more than $3, let alone for the whole month!. The ones who choose #1 don't value their time enough, IMO. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Back up routines
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:17:04AM -0400, Jeff Soules wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Eric 1. Every day, bring this drive in, plug it in, run this program, then take it home at night; or 2. Pay Amazon $3/mo and don't worry about it; and I bet over 80% of them choose #2. They'll say The time it takes me to do that for one week is worth more than $3, let alone for the whole month!. The ones who choose #1 don't value their time enough, IMO. It depends on the amount of data you have. If you're a decent-sized small business with a lot of databases to back up and you're pushing 10 GB nightly, then it's more like $33/mo, assuming you never actually have to use the backup. If you have to *use* the backup, your restore process will be constrained to the speed of your internet connection, which could result in some very significant downtime which may or may not be acceptable for your business. Each way has advantages and disadvantages; there isn't a one-size-fits-all for this. For sure. But I don't have anyone pushing 10 GB nightly :-) It's just that people were telling me to go buy a hard drive for 150 MB/day, and I wanted to point out that for many people that's ridiculous. On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:19:43AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: I worry about things the disappearance of which would destroy my business. I trust Amazon more than a HD. You're free not to, but I've seen more HDs fail than I have Amazons. Gah!!! Computers are for automation, not manual labor. Plug it in, click an icon, and go about your business. When it's done, unplug and bring home. That's 2 minutes of actual manual labor. Which, if you multiply it out, is more than $3. (2 minutes * $20/hour * ~20 days/month) / (60 minutes/hour) = $13.33 Uploading to a remote server is more automated (client doesn't even have to *think* about it), and for low amounts of data, is cheaper. On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 05:29:56PM +0200, Siggy Brentrup wrote: I guess you're right in what small business owners are doing, but IMHO they are not valuing confidentiality of their data high enough. I don't know which encryption standards are in use, but I doubt most people even know about http://www.schneier.com/essay-198.html by Bruce Schneier, let alone understand what he is saying. For the record, JungleDisk uses AES-256. My bigger worry with one client is that they refuse to use good passwords, despite my best advice. Oh, and I bet if I pointed out to them that the NSA might be able to get at their data, they'd tell me If the NSA wants it they can have it! It's mostly sales/accounting data. They probably wouldn't even care if their competitors got it. :-) I say this being hit by a complete HW and data loss to a fire in '97. I prefer keeping my data off-site and off-net. If off-net is a concern, then don't use Amazon. It's not a concern for me or any of my clients. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Back up routines
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 07:12:49PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:48:17 +0100 AG computing.acco...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello AG, Thus, can I please have a few recommendations for a backup routine that is safe for dummies (i.e. me) and is low maintenance that I can just leave to run according to a cron job once (or twice) a week? It would be backing up to my former IDE HDD (now in an enclosure) via an Unsatisfactory, IMO. Any back up should be made to a medium that can be removed from the computer and, at the very least, stored in a different part of the building. My favourite for this is JungleDisk. It stores your files on Amazon's S3, and as a backup program it's half decent. It's not free/libre/open-source, but it's cheap (US$20), and you get free upgrades for life. Oh, and S3 storage is cheap. $0.15/GB/mo, plus $0.10/GB upload/download. I'm backing up about 150MB per day one place for about US$3/month. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: sha1summ of complete directory?
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 07:36:24AM -0700, Todd A. Jacobs wrote: On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 07:30:19PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: How would one go about computing a *single* hash value for a complete directory tree? You might want to look at how git does this. As I understand it, git stores hashes of trees, so the implementation may help you. Not really... the hash git indexes with is that of the compressed object (which is either a blob, tree, or commit). Tree and commit objects point at other objects (which are also stored by hash). Blobs are the files themselves. More info: http://www.gitready.com/beginner/2009/02/17/how-git-stores-your-data.html http://eagain.net/articles/git-for-computer-scientists/ Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: HIDS recommendations?
Samhain? Never tried it, but looked at it a few times. Cheers, Eric On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 08:18:38PM -0400, Andrew Reid wrote: Hi all -- I run a small network of several hosts, mostly Debian, and I've become frustrated with the host-based intrustion detection system I'm using. It works, but the GUI tools is very slow, and package/security updates generate a lot of noise. We're expanding the number of hosts we monitor, and it seems to be scaling poorly. In my ideal world, I'd like a Debian-smart integrity checker. Basic features: - FOSS. I don't mind paying money for support or docs, but I'd like the code to be open. - Separate central monitoring host, integrity agents on client hosts. - Tunable/configurable to ignore rapidly-changing files, give low-severity for enlarged/rotated log files, good SUID and world-writable detection. Desirable features: - A fast, intuitive GUI that lets me isolate false positives quickly (you can never tune these things perfectly), and preferrably allows browsing by directory tree. Dream feature: - Debian-smart, so when I do security updates, it automatically white-lists the files changed by the package manager, and doesn't bug me about them. I have direct experience with Samhain/Beltane/Yule, tripwire, and recently road-tested ossec. They all do the basic features, and S/B/Y and ossec have web-based GUI interfaces, but they seem clunky to me, and scale poorly -- I end up manually scanning huge lists of violations by eye, looking for the change that's *not* in the /usr/changed-package/zillion-files tree, which is error-prone. Searching the Debian package lists, I see references to osiris aide, and prelude, although prelude appears to be more of a combined log-analyzer and network IDS, and what I really want is a file-system integrity tool. A good GUI for tripwire might meet the need, and I'd also be interested in people's experience with other tools, particulary for monitoring about 50 hosts. -- A. -- Andrew Reid / rei...@bellatlantic.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Problem with preseed partitioning
On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 04:19:04PM +0200, Andy Kannberg wrote: I've solved the problem. Leaving out the escapes chars and putting the whole recipe on one line did the job. Now it works like a charm. You probably had spaces after the backslashes. That'll do it. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Problem with preseed partitioning
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 03:52:36PM +0200, Andy Kannberg wrote: Hi guru's, I am running into a problem with a system that I want to install via a preseed config file. All goes well, except the partitioning part. The system I want to install is a HP Proliant DL380 G5 with SmartArray. For some reason, the recipe I've created isn't used; the installer falls back to the standard partitioning scheme. I must say, I am installing Ubuntu, but since Ubuntu is Debian based, and the Ubuntu maillinglists can't answer my problem, I am trying my luck here. The partitioning part of the preseed file is shown below: [snip] Can someone shed a light on this and help me out what I am doing wrong or forgetting ? It looks good to my eye... keep in mind I've only done this twice. Have you checked the error console (VT 4) during install (or the installer log after install) for errors? Also, if you drop to a console on VT 2 or 3 during install, does /dev/cciss/c0d0 exist? That's all I can think of. Let me know if you figure it out. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Problems with play action in DopeWars game
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 05:09:33PM +0100, AG wrote: AG wrote: Hi When playing the GTK version of DopeWars in Squeeze, when one goes to sell one's purchases, the option to sell all at once doesn't work - it only allows 1 item at a time to be sold. Those of you who play the game may appreciate that selling several hundred items 1-by-1 is both tedious and a real drag to playing the game. I cannot lay my hands on the config file either, so cannot seem to change it from there if that is even an option. Any suggestions please? Thanks AG Well - an update. I removed Squeeze's version and installed the version from Lenny - and the same thing applies. For whatever reason I just cannot adjust how many items one can sell - it always comes through as 1 item, even if one manually enters the correct number. So, if Squeeze and Lenny versions are showing up screwy ... the common denominator is my machine and possibly the gtk libraries or something else. Any ideas on what to be looking for? You'll probably get better luck filing a bug against the dopewars package (use reportbug). That is... assuming it has an active maintainer. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: house planning software
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:12:42AM +0300, mi...@post.tau.ac.il wrote: I was wondering if there is any software that allows building a 3d model of the house/appartment to help with the planning People have had success with Google SketchUp using Wine: http://wiki.winehq.org/GoogleSketchup Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Problems with play action in DopeWars game
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:53:50AM +0100, AG wrote: Eric Gerlach wrote: On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 05:09:33PM +0100, AG wrote: You'll probably get better luck filing a bug against the dopewars package (use reportbug). That is... assuming it has an active maintainer. Cheers, Eric Yeah - looked at doing that. Not much chance though. The SourceForge site lists last activity 2003 or so. Too bad - it was a fun game. Installed fine on my old machine but not on this. Even if there's no upstream activity, the bug could be fixed in the debian package. Less likely, true, but not impossible. Much more possible depending how much you're willing to help. :-) Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: copying files on hd with bad blocks
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:03:52AM +0800, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote: I need to copy files from a ntfs formatted hd to a ntfs hd. What tool should i use? Note: I only need to copy files and directories, not making disk image Hi, You can use ntfs-3g. First, install it by running aptitude install ntfs-3g as root (or with sudo). Then you can use the ntfs-3g mount type or command. $ man ntfs-3g will give you more info once the package is installed. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Program for quoting text like in email?
On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 11:03:39AM +1200, Richard Hector wrote:
Then I'd use the editors features to format it. I can't remember how to
do the line wrapping stuff in vim, but
gq{motion}
So, gqap to format the current paragraph.
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Re: Realtek Device ffff (rev 10) is not recognized with 8139too
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 03:43:21PM +, Marcelo Luiz de Laia wrote: Hello, I had two network cards in my micro. The eth0 card was stopped (ruined) and I, for one time, worked without it (only with eth1). All is working perfectly. Now a days I moved my DIAL UP to ADSL and I will need to share my net. I am at home. I bought a new PCI card and plug it. But it is not recognized. In the logs, see below, it appears that it was renamed from eth0 to eth1. You know if the driver 8139too is really the one for this hardware? What I could do to configure it? :~$ sudo ifconfig -a eth1 Link encap:Ethernet Endereço de HW 00:0c:6e:b2:40:58 Is this the MAC address of the new card? Usually it's printed physically on the card somewhere. dmesg log: [2.724640] forcedeth :00:04.0: ifname eth0, PHY OUI 0x732 @ 1, addr 00:0c:6e:b2:40:58 [5.098215] udev: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1 [ 25.960017] eth1: no IPv6 routers present If the above MAC is indeed the MAC of the new card, it looks like udev is finding the device and changing its name to eth1. If so, then it's probably a problem with /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules. But that's *only* if that's the MAC of the new card. If it's the MAC of your old eth1, then udev is doing the right thing, and I have no idea. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: SSH iptables
I would recommend using firehol for something like this. The following /etc/firehol/firehol.conf would do the trick: interface any world server ssh accept client all accept In fact, I think that's close to the default conf file. You should read the docs, though, you don't want to screw it up and not be able to connect. Cheers, Eric On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 11:12:04PM +0200, Pawel Cholewinski wrote: Hello I want to filter traffic on SSH server. I want to ACCEPT only SSH trafic on SSH server computer. Packet SSH which receive and send should be ACCEPT. Other traffic should be DROP. Which protocol I must use. I know that port nr 22 is used default. So, what I must type to do this? Thanks pch0317 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Using terminal output as input
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 01:31:30PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: I also suggested the copying/pasting approach via gnu/screen's mechanism but that's not really what the OP was asking and maybe there should be a smarter alternative..?? Actually, it seems that copy-paste is in fact what I am looking for. I just figured that this would be common enough to be a part of the shell itself, not something that would require workarounds or hacks. I intend to learn screen. If you're looking to take the output from a command, edit it, then pipe it back into another command, may I suggest your favourite editor? vim can do it like so (for example): (in command mode) !!ls (edit to your heart's content) :%!wc I'm sure emacs can do it too, but I don't know emacs all that well. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Using terminal output as input
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 09:42:36PM +0530, Foss User wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Eric Gerlach egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca wrote: vim can do it like so (for example): (in command mode) !!ls (edit to your heart's content) :%!wc I'm sure emacs can do it too, but I don't know emacs all that well. Cheers, I tried this: $ which firefox | vim - vim opened. Now when I press !! :.! appears at bottom. Next I type |s and I get this error: /bin/bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `|' /bin/bash: -c: line 0: `(|s) /tmp/v754567/14 /tmp/v754567/15 21' shell returned 2 That wasn't a pipe character, it was a lowercase 'L'. What '!!' does is pipe the current line into the command specified. I was using that to load the result of an 'ls' into the buffer. This command replaces what is on the current line with the result of the command. Then the command :%!wc means the following : - enter ex command mode % - on the entire buffer ! - pipe through command wc - the command to use (wc in this case) You can replace the '%' with any vim motion in order to pipe only certain lines through a command. You can even select an area in visual mode, type '!' and then enter your command, and it will filter that area through the command. Note that this always replaces what was there with the output of the command, though. Type :help filter in command mode for more information. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Issue with Maildir directories.
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 08:52:57AM +0200, Rafał Radecki wrote: Hi all. I have a problem with my mail servers' web interface. On our previous mail server we used SquirrelMail, now we try to use RoundCube. But we have a problem because RoundCube doesn't see users' Maildir directories. Could anyone give me a clue why is it that? Standard folders like 'new' and 'cur' are mapped to 'Received' but other directories are not visible. Roundcube exclusively uses an IMAP server, right? So it sounds like your IMAP server is not configured to use Maildirs. What IMAP server are you using? Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Microsoft Virtual Earth-based apps not working
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:24:51PM -0700, Rob Starling wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 03:12:24PM -0400, Eric Gerlach wrote: Hey all, I'm having some trouble using Microsoft Virtual Earth-based apps like: http://www.realtor.ca/ http://192.237.29.245/hastinfoweb/ (my local transit planning site) The little flags on the maps don't show up. Is anyone else having this problem? Or is it just me? this is an old post, and i think things work with firefox now, but if you're using Iceweasel, VE might be confused by the agent string: http://www.viavirtualearth.com/wiki/Firefox2.ashx this should help you change the user agent string to match firefox. see if that helps: http://wiki.debian.org/Iceweasel#UserAgentString another: http://www.geticeweasel.org/useragent/ Bingo bango, sugar in the gastank. The User Agent String strikes again. I just had to change my UA string from Iceweasel to Firefox and all was well. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Microsoft Virtual Earth-based apps not working
Hey all, I'm having some trouble using Microsoft Virtual Earth-based apps like: http://www.realtor.ca/ http://192.237.29.245/hastinfoweb/ (my local transit planning site) The little flags on the maps don't show up. Is anyone else having this problem? Or is it just me? Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
OT: Hijack: EEE PC 10 (was: Re: Switch from lenny-stable to squeeze-testing)
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 08:52:04AM -0400, Robert Menes wrote: Hi folks, I've just installed Debian lenny-stable onto my Asus Eee PC 10, Hi Robert, I've been looking at the 10 Eee PC for a debian laptop. How are you finding it, especially the keyboard? I'd be interested in hearing how it's working for you. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: PXE boot debian-installer
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 08:39:01AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In 871vrtasei@klein.localdomain, Alok G. Singh wrote: The DHCP server running on the router assigns addresses in the 192.168.1.0/24 subnet. I have setup another DHCP server to respond to PXE in the same subnet. Now, how do I make sure the two DHCP servers play nice together ? That is, the router's DHCP server should be used unless DHCPREQUEST is from a PXE client. I'm not sure you can. The first step would be to figure out what, if anything, is in the DHCPREQUEST packet that would indicate the sender is a PXE client. Then, configure one server to not respond to those requests and one to only respond to those requests. Just to confirm, I know that you *can* do this, i.e. a PXE client sends out different information than a regular DHCP client... I just can't recall what the difference is off-hand. I don't think there is, strictly speaking, a difference. But, a DHCP client on a booted system will just ignore all the netboot information in the response. So, generally you just run one DHCP server that gives everyone the netboot information and there's little downside. This is probably the best way. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: To check a copy of a file on its originality from its installed package.
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 08:46:44AM -0400, Rob McBroom wrote: On 2009-Apr-15, at 4:02 AM, Sthu Deus wrote: For example, I have /usr/bin/sudo that comes from its installed package sudo My question is, How I can find out that the /usr/bin/sudo file has not been exchanged with another copy by some person and therefore it does some stuff that I'm not aware of. % aptitude install debsums % rehash % debsums sudo This works in the simple case, the only thing to be aware of is that if someone has the ability to change you /usr/bin/sudo, then they can probably update the debsum as well (unless debsums are signed... are they?) If you're really paranoid about this, you should consider looking at tools like tripwire or samhain. But they take considerably more effort to set up. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Portable iSCSI disks ?
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 09:34:49AM +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote: Hello For backup purpose I'm thinking to use a portable iSCSI disk anyone knows such device that could be used with a debian etch server ? Thanks a lot. Drobo just released the DroboPro, which looks to be a pretty awesome iSCSI device. Don't know if it fits your definition of portable, though. http://www.drobo.com/drobopro Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: autolock console
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 10:26:27AM +1000, Daniel Dalton wrote: Hi, On the standard console (alt+ctr+f1), no x session running, is it possible to run a command after a certain number of minutes where no keys have been pressed? Like the gnome screen saver, except for the console. I want to be able to run vlock after say 15 minutes with no one pressing anything on the keyboard. The kernel blanks the screen after N minutes, right? I wonder how it knows that it's time to do so? Can that be hooked somehow? Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Streaming Video from a Debian box
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 09:54:09AM -0500, Kent West wrote: Do I understand that there's no pre-packaged Debian solution for streaming videos from the Debian/apache box to other clients, similar to how YouTube streams videos? I found Icecast, but the official site indicated it's an audio streamer only, although I saw a reference or two elsewhere about it possibly streaming theora files. (Which would work, if I can convert my Mac-generated .mp4 file into theora. (I only used the Mac for its iMovie app; openmovieeditor crashed on me, and seemed ... weak.)) I also found Apple's Darwin, but that just seems .., tainted ,.. somehow, and I'm not sure it would work anyway. So, what's the solution for setting up my own Youtube-like service on my Debian box? So... by streaming, do you mean live video? If so, the solutions the others have given are fine. If you're looking to setup something Youtube-like, where there are a bunch of videos and people can watch them, you just need to embed an FLV player in webpages. A quick Google turned up this: http://flv-player.net/ The Maxi player looks decent. If you Google for free flv player or open source flv player and I'm sure you'll find more if that one isn't good enough. The tricky bit of Youtube (other than bandwidth) is getting the videos into FLV format. When someone uploads a video, you'll have to set up queued processing to convert it to FLV in the right sizes, etc. Of course, if you're the only one doing uploads, then that's not really an issue. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: accessing www.mls.ca map search from linux
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 10:53:27AM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: Hi all, We're looking for a new house and here in Canada, the way to do this (other than getting a realestate agent to do it), is to go to www.mls.ca and do a search. MLS has recently changed how you choose the geographic area: it used to be by clicking on a simple map to choose the realestate board in which to search. Now, its a MS-based map. Unfortunatly, at least one realestate company has gone to the same search method on their own web site. I get the map OK, but I don't get any results. The help page says that only IE on MS is supported (it doesn't mention Linux, but does say that MacOS is not supported). I've tried it with (Etch) iceweasel and konqueror. Could someone who's running Lenny see if it works from Lenny? FYI, it will only show less than 500 results. If you zoom in the map, it will tell you how many results there are. When this gets to less than 500, it should show them to you. If anyone has any ideas, I'm all ears. I was looking myself on Firefox 3/Windows the other day. It worked fine. Haven't tried it on Lenny at home, though. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Help! Grub is broken
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 09:57:50PM +0800, ?...@k4 wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Jochen Schulz m...@well-adjusted.de wrote: First: today's viruses generally don't destroy their hosts anymore. Instead, they use their host as a platform for criminal behaviour. You don't earn any money by rendering other people's computer, but apparently you earn a lot by making it part of a botnet. you are right, it should not be a viruses, maybe it's because my harddisk is broken, how to check my harddisk? now I have installed a new system on it and it is working fine now, but I'm afraid it will be broken suddenly again after a few days, so I should know clear about the situation of my harddisk. is there any tool to check the health of my harddisk? thank you. It's not free, but I swear by SpinRite (http://www.grc.com/sr/spinrite.htm). It's saved my behind a few times. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Adding installed packages to menu
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 03:57:48PM +0900, Bret Busby wrote: On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Daniel Burrows wrote: On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 01:16:31AM +0900, Bret Busby b...@busby.net was heard to say: b...@bretnewworkstation:~$ cat /usr/share/applications/flightgear.desktop cat: /usr/share/applications/flightgear.desktop: No such file or directory Looks like you don't have that file at all. From history in Synaptic; Commit Log for Mon Mar 2 13:41:22 2009 Installed the following packages: fgfs-base (0.9.10-1) flightgear (0.9.10-2) That's the package from etch, which is now obsolete. I did say, in the intitial posting, at the start of the thread, that I am running Debian 4.0. Ah, sorry, I missed that when I replied earlier. Mea culpa. I'm still using etch for a few servers, too, but none of them has flightgear installed ;) I had delayed upgrading to Debian 5.0, as people appear to still have problems with upgrading to Debian 5.0, so I thought that it would be better to wait until things had settled, with Debian 5.0, perhaps, when release 2 appears, or something similar. I downloaded the package from lenny, and the .desktop file is really simple. I've attached it to this email. Just save the file, and then: $ sudo mv /path/to/the/flightgear.desktop /usr/share/applications (assuming you use sudo) I'm not sure if you have to run any update-* commands after adding the file. Hopefully someone else can help out with that one. Sorry again for the bunk advice earlier. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca [Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Type=Application Version=1.4 Name=FlightGear Exec=fgfs Terminal=false Categories=Game;Simulation; Comment=A flight simulator Comment[pt]=Simulao de V??o Icon=
Re: Adding installed packages to menu
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 01:16:31AM +0900, Bret Busby wrote: From history in Synaptic; Commit Log for Mon Mar 2 13:41:22 2009 Installed the following packages: fgfs-base (0.9.10-1) flightgear (0.9.10-2) freeglut3 (2.4.0-5) libalut0 (1.0.1-1) libopenal0a (1:0.0.8-4) plib1.8.4c2 (1.8.4-6) simgear0 (0.3.10-2) So, the package and its dependencies show as having been installed, but no .desktop file was apparently created. Perhaps try reinstalling the flightgear package? It really should contain that file... Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Comprehensive list of d-i (debian-installer) key/value pairs and description
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 11:38:50AM -0500, Joe McDonagh wrote: Hi All, I am wondering if anyone knows where I can find a comprehensive list of debian-installer key/value pairs for preseeding. I discovered /var/cache/debconf/templates.dat but that doesn't show *all* keys. debconf-get-selections from debconf-utils Add '--installer' to get the settings for the installer, omit to get the settings for all other (installed?) packages. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: finding similar files
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 06:58:48PM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: There wouldn't happen to be any handy tools for searching a directory tree with a few hundred ASCII files and telling me which ones have similar content? Many have been copied, edited, merged, reformatted, split, and I'd like to find the differences, decide on what to keep, and delete redundant ones. I know there's such a program for image files. I know about wdiff, which would be fine after I've paired off the similar files (or fragments of files). to resolve differences that remain. You could write a script that would brute force all possible pairs of files (yes, I know that's big, but it's only 125 000 for 500 files), run them through wdiff -s, and then set some threshold for similarity on the statistics. Then, you get a list of potential matches. The only trick is setting the threshold... and I have no idea how to help you there. And if you're looking for fragments of files, that's a whole different ballgame. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: testing or unstable?
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 06:13:12PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: On 2009-02-17_13:02:38, Rodolfo Medina wrote: I've been using Debian for more than three years now, but always using the official DVDs of the most current stable version: first Sarge, and then Etch. Recently, many times I've been needing to use a testing/unstable Debian version for many applications that were too old in stable Debian, so now I'm thinking of switching to a testing/unstable Debian version for good. Now, my question is: which one is more advisable, testing or unstable? Excuse the basicness of my question, thanks for any reply Rodolfo Rodolfo, I have a different take on this issue. Rather than discuss the relative merits of stable, testing, I think you should consider the merits of lenny, squeeze. Using code names (lenny, squeeze, etc.) allows you to choose when big changes in your system happen. I would not run testing during the next several weeks because there was a freeze on moving packages from unstable into testing in preparation for the official release of lenny. As soon as lenny became stable, the freeze was lifted and all sorts of flaky stuff that the release manager wouldn't let into a product that was about to be released has come flooding into testing. The point is that the stability of testing is time dependent. Right after a release it can be somewhat unstable. For a _long_ duration before a release, it is quite stable, and much more modern than the official stable. I always use code names in my sources.list. That way I am never hit with a bunch of changes right after a release. In a little while, after the flood of held-back packages abates, I will dist-upgrade to squeeze. Or, if there is a persistent flood of questions about new packages in squeeze on debian-user, I will defer the dist-upgrade until things settle down. I agree with this policy whole-heartedly. I just found out that I had a few etch machines that had 'stable' in the sources.list. PITA. My new standard practice for my desktop machines is to upgrade to the next version when the green line drops below the blue line on this graph: http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ Obviously, the green and blue lines are at roughly the same place right now, because squeeze is just a copy of lenny. But give it a few weeks and the green line will go rocketing up. It used to be that I'd upgrade once the RC number got low enough (around 300 for my sarge-etch upgrade), but now they're tracking stable RC bugs as well, which makes it easier. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: adding secure accounts for remote users?
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 03:10:07PM -0500, Zach Uram wrote: I want to give some friends accounts on my server so that they can 1) ssh in to the sever 2) have web space on the apache2 webserver such as $HOME/public_html so they would be http://www.server.org/~user How exactly can I setup these 2 things? Also how can I restrict the users to *only* their $HOME directory so they cannot cd or ls any other directories or files on my filesystem? Running Debian lenny. If all you're looking to do is give them the ability to SFTP, you can do the following: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/590 However, if they need a shell prompt, that's a lot harder. You'll have to create a chroot jail (and note that they aren't perfect). Google for chroot ssh to get more information. Spend a *lot* of time reading up, because it's not trivial. Also you'll have to put a copy of every command you want your users to be able to run in the jail. Overall, if you can convince your users to live with SFTP only, do that. It's what we've done in one case, and nobody really cares most of the time. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: adding secure accounts for remote users?
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 07:08:05PM -0500, Zach Uram wrote: Shams and Eric, Thanks for the replies, I decided to go with just SFTP for now. I suppose they could also use SCP? Technically, no, they're different protocols. I'm not sure if newer versions of scp will try sftp first, but there is a separate sftp program. Windows users can use FileZilla, OSX users can use Fugu (IIRC). Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: netcat in listen mode don't exit
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 07:26:50AM -0300, Paulo Brito wrote: If you want to just what's changed in the log file since the last time you connected, look at the package logtail. For example you might run this command: while :; do nc -l -p 5558 -c logtail /var/log/syslog; done This would have nc exit when it's done dumping /var/log/syslog and the next time someone connects it should pick up where it left off. Regards, Tod Detre Nice tip, Tod. But the idea was keeping a connection open, to get client informed by server that something happened. Anyway, looking in netcat sources yesterday I found the reason of that behavior. It uses the execl system call to run -e program (the version I looked don't have -c anymore). Execl just substitute the current process with the new one, and execl never returns! So netcat sets up the network connections and pipes and go off the scenes. And so, netcat got no chances of killing the -e program. That's the reason why when -e program exits, the connection is gone. In my specific case, thare's another issue: tail -f dont care about stdin and never returns. Maybe someday a new feature appers in netcat: run -e/-c program in a fork or something, so netcat can still have the control. If you're running this as a service, you might want to just set it up in inetd. Assuming you're using inetd and not xinetd or others, your line might look something like this: 5558 stream tcp nowait root /usr/bin/tail tail -F /var/log/syslog I haven't tried that, nor have I tested that it does what you want. But it may be worth a shot. I've never tried putting a command that wasn't designed for inetd in its config before. If you try it I'm curious how it ends up working for you. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [OT] Friday the 13th
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:02:21PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: Teemu Likonen writes: But in international communication timezone information is sometimes important. There is no hope of it ever being implemented of course, but what would really be useful would be a standard whereby dates and times (even when embedded in text) would transmitted and stored in UTC but displayed according to the locale of the user. Anyone else remember Internet Time? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatch_Internet_Time Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: setuid safe for df?
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:59:57AM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: Hi all, I'm having a problem at the moment with nagios monitoring of disk space. When a filesystem is mounted in a directory that's inaccessible to the nagios user, df doesn't work for it. Is df considered safe to be setuid? Any other suggestions? Use sudo? Setup your /etc/sudoers so the nagios user can run df without a password, then configure Nagios to use sudo df instead of just df (I'm just learning Nagios myself, so I don't know how you might do the second part) Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Command line sendmail client
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 04:38:12PM +0100, Amar Cosic wrote: Hello list I am looking for some command line mail client that will allow me to send mail using some other smtp server instead of local one. For ex. I need something like 'mail -server smtp.gmail.com -to s...@email.com -subject hello - text some text' . I have looked at mailx but cant seem to find what I am looking for. Anything like this around? Thanks Newer versions of mutt will do this. Not sure if by mail client you mean an MTA, an MUA or both, though. The other suggestions are also good. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: DCHP Server Monitoring
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 02:09:28PM +0800, rjubio wrote: Hi, I am wondering how can I monitor the leases that my dhcp server is giving to its clients. Thanks! Maybe there is an existing software that I can use. If your DHCP server is running Debian, then your DHCP server might write out the leases to a file. For example, dnsmasq writes them out to /var/misc/dhcp_leases (IIRC). Your best bet would be to check out the man-page of the particular DHCP server you're using. Most man-pages have a FILES section near the bottom which should describe where it is storing the leases. If your DHCP server is running on your router, you'll have to look at the router. Hope that helps! Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [OT] mailing lists versus usenet / reply to list, reply-to, reply
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 01:01:18PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2009-01-05 18:13:32, schrieb hose: Just use the least sucky client out there (mutt). It has sane reply, reply-to, and reply-to-list commands, is extremely fast, and can bend to your will if needed, no matter how wrong you are. It's the vim of the email world. I even know some Windows XP/Vista users, running only a Cygwin instance to have mutt. Maybe its Geeky, but who knows? I am currently writing this email in vim, spawned via mutt, in Cygwin. I couldn't get by without it. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Difference between Lenny/testing?
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:09:29PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:24:43AM -0800, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: 3) When you start noticing complaints on this list that stable has old outdated software that is way behind some other distribution, that is much more up to date, consider making a dist-upgrade to testing, but use the code name, not the word testing in sources.list. Maybe delay doing this until you see complaints about oldness that specifically mention features that sound interesting for software that you use. On my personal boxes, I do this step when the green line drops below the blue line on this graph: http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ I figure that if testing has fewer RC bugs than stable, it's probably okay for me to use. I'm okay building a package from source if I need to fix a bug though, so I have that advantage. For my servers, I wait until the next release enters freeze, wait a month or two, then start testing upgrades. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: shortcuts sought for mutt
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 05:20:50PM +0100, Bernard wrote: Hi to Everyone, On my old laptop which ran on RedHat 7.2, I had installed mutt. It has been about 2 years since I have not used this. I remember that I had spent quite a bit of time getting mutt to work, fiddling around with the .muttrc conf file. Now, I would like to use mutt on my desktop under Debian Sarge. I found that Mutt is part of the package that I installed 2 years ago, still it does not work 'out of the box'. It does retrieve mail though, using the command : mutt -f pop://myacco...@pop.myprovider.fr but I can't send any mail. If I try to, the system sends a mail saying mailing to remote domains not supported. Another option (which *does* involve upgrading to lenny, sorry) is that mutt in lenny has built-in ESMTP capabilities. Just set: set smtp=smtps://myacco...@pop.myprovider.fr et voila! Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: NFS boot with a dhcpless network
Micha Feigin wrote: Yes, theoretically that is what I want, but if I'm not mistaken PXE boot is dependent on a dhcp server giving the machine an IP and declaring that it has a boot image to provide, or am I wrong. I want to give the ip as an option and use a given nfs server as a root, not resolve these values at run time Are these diskless machines? If not, then theoretically you could set up your initial RAM disk to give the IP and mount the NFS root. I couldn't tell you exactly how to go about it, though. If they're diskless, you'll need a DHCP server (I think). Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: insserv encrypted /home
Jochen Schulz wrote: Which package should receive the bug report, insserv or cryptsetup? I guess this is insserv's fault, but I am not sure. I think that this would be a bug against cryptsetup. AFAIK, having LSB-compliant initscripts is some sort of a release goal for lenny. I don't know where parallelization fits into this, but I think it's up to cryptsetup to make sure it plays well in that scenario (or warns the user not to do it). Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: making ssh connections persistent
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Eric De Mund wrote: This email was composed on my ISP which I am ssh'ed in to from a screen session on my home system. Which, in turn, I've ssh'ed in to from work. If my work-home connection dies, I simply reconnect to home via ssh, then resume my screen session. When I resume the screen session, voila, my open emacs program up at my ISP, for example, is presented to me. screen(1) is old, but it's a killer app. Does screen work well with graphical applications? I know it is a very good app for text based applications such as vim. But what if I use gvim/texmacs for most of the editing? I uncovered xpra[1] recently... haven't had the chance to test it. Doesn't look like it's been packaged for Debian yet, but the README does have Debian compile instructions. If you're comfortable compiling your own software, give it a shot. I'm curious to see how well it works, at any rate. Cheers, Eric [1] http://partiwm.org/wiki/xpra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Filing bug reports in Debian (was Re: Debian Stole My Name!)
edit that file and *think* it's safe because we know we won't run update-grub (or is it grub-update -- I keep forgetting!). Yet it isn't safe because there are cases where that will be run without our knowing. So it comes down to where is the point where it's okay to overwrite a file the user/admin has edited and wipe out any comments or changes they've put in and where is the point where we should respect the admin's changes. Yes, many people say, It's your problem. If that were true and the best way to do it, then it would be our responsibility to manually handle backing up all configuration files before an update. It isn't. That, in itself, shows us that the idea behind apt, as opposed to RPM, was to let people make their own choices and not assume/presume to make their decisions for them or tell them how to handle their config files and overwrite their changes with any update with the system's good config file. I've found the best way to get something fixed in an open source project is to develop a patch. Since this is documentation, it wouldn't be that hard. You can find the default menu.lst around line 260 of /usr/sbin/upgate-grub. I've filed bug reports where I didn't know the language or enough of what was going on to write a patch but was able to specifically point out where the bug was and what it would take and still been blessed out because it was a feature (even when it was clear it was fubar). I don't know how knowledgeable whoever decides to do this is, but I can help a bit with the process if needed. I'm not a DD, but I do file bugs from time to time. :-) Heck, one could even reopen the old bug, move it to grub, attach the patch and hope for the best, but there's already another bug that's very similar and might welcome such a patch (and a link to this discussion): http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=383282 I'd love to see something happen, but, honestly, I've found it hard enough to just explain my point of view here and had a big enough hurdle getting some people to see what the issue was that it still leaves me with that feeling that I just don't feel like having to go through that whole thing with trying to fight someone in a bug report. I will say, though, that a lot of people in this discussion have been great to exchange ideas with because they could deal with the actual topic at hand and present some good points. Hal -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: Linode VPSVille (was: Re: virtual private server? advice requested)
Sam Kuper wrote: I made a shortlist for this sort of thing myself recently. It was largely inspired by http://djangohosting.org/ with the addition of VPSVille http://vpsville.ca . I opted for VPSVille, though I'm only paying month-on-month and I'm automating things as far as possible so that I can switch to another VPS provider (or duplicate my server setups) if I want to. VPSVille actually had a few hiccups themselves recently but seem to have recovered quickly. Anyone have any experience with Linode? I've been thinking about getting an account with them (or VPSVille) for personal stuff in the next few months, and I'm trying to get some opinions on both. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: live cd with lvm
Thierry Chatelet wrote: Hi, I am looking for a live CD with lvm on it. INSERT has it: http://www.inside-security.de/INSERT_en.html ... looking at the project page, though, they haven't done a release in a while. Last one was in 2007. Which is too bad. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Filing bug reports in Debian (was Re: Debian Stole My Name!)
Hal Vaughan wrote: Both of your comments involve disagreements over differences of opinion -- but I can see where you're coming from and I think the point about rewording the warnings in menu.lst would go a long way toward addressing the issue that led me to file the bug report. If filing the bug report had led to that kind of discussion, I would have felt much better about it than I did when I decided to just give up. I can deal with a disagreement. What I found frustrating was that it felt like the focus was only on justifying why the bug was elsewhere and there was no need to pursue it. So it sounds like one possible solution that is agreeable to most in this discussion is to improve the documentation on menu.lst. I've found the best way to get something fixed in an open source project is to develop a patch. Since this is documentation, it wouldn't be that hard. You can find the default menu.lst around line 260 of /usr/sbin/upgate-grub. I don't know how knowledgeable whoever decides to do this is, but I can help a bit with the process if needed. I'm not a DD, but I do file bugs from time to time. :-) Heck, one could even reopen the old bug, move it to grub, attach the patch and hope for the best, but there's already another bug that's very similar and might welcome such a patch (and a link to this discussion): http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=383282 Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Miss Manners (Debian Edition): Release Critical Bugs
Sven Joachim wrote: P.S. If the maintainer of the package in question is reading this right now, and you just haven't had a chance to get a freeze-exception yet, that's okay! I just want to know that it will make it for release! Thanks for your hard work! You're being rather vague, mentioning neither the package nor the bug number, so I'm not certain if the maintainer will recognize that he is meant, even if he reads this list. So, what is the bug number? Well, that's because I wanted to give the maintainer a chance to fix stuff before calling him out. And as it turns out, he did, and the new version of open-vm-tools (the package in question) will be headed into lenny in 11 days (wait time got extended from 10 to 15 days). And kudos and thanks to Daniel Baumann for his work on open-vm-tools and about 150 other packages (wow). Had I looked harder at who the maintainer was and how many packages he maintained, I probably wouldn't have even started this thread. Now I feel sheepish about it, and will go into a corner and hide. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there a full list of debian installer (d-i) questions that can be used in a preseed file?
Tim Edwards wrote: I'm currently working on hands-off installations, with both Redhat, Debian and Ubuntu. Redhat's kickstart is well documented, with a complete list of each possible option, any parameters and the possible values (or where to find a list of them - eg. keyboard mappings): https://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5.2/html/Installation_Guide/s1-kickstart2-options.html I'm trying to find the equivalent for Debian Installer's preseeding questions (and Ubuntu too if possible). However the best I've found is http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apbs04.html.en This is a good howto, and enough for me to get a basic, working, preseed file but I'd like a full reference to all the questions/options like with kickstart above? AFAIK, any debconf options can be set in the preseed file. If you install the debconf-utils package, and then run: # debconf-get-selections --installer you'll get a list of what I believe to be everything for the installer (WARNING: It's long) If you run # debconf-get selections on its own, you'll get settings for all of the packages on the system. Also very long. From there you can copy-paste the settings you want into your preseed file (I wouldn't use the whole thing). Cheers, Eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Do Debian's users care about the AGPL?
Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: Sometimes I get the feeling that Debian's users and Debian's developers live in separate worlds. There's currently a long thread in d-legal over the AGPL. One DD has expressed reservations towards the AGPL to the point where she has decided not to package a certain program covered by the AGPL. Do Debian's users care about this sort of legal geekery or is everything fine as long as AGPLed programs go into non-free? My irrelevant vote on this topic: I think that there's nothing in the AGPL that makes it non-free, but I don't care what the final Debian decision is as long as AGPL software can be put into non-free and I have the freedom to make my own decision about it. My humble advice to the project: Just vote on it and decide. Do the same thing you did with the FDL. If you determine that AGPL is DFSG-free, great! Problem solved. If you determine that it's non-free, great! As long as it's in non-free I can make my own decision about whether or not to install it. I don't view non-free as some kind of refuse bin for the licences that don't make the cut. I view it as a place where I can choose packages from other licenses if I please. Brain-dumping here: maybe Debian needs a might-be-free archive? Or maybe just gnu-free for GNU licenses that aren't DFSG-free? That might also help with some of the non-free doc packages (if there are any around anymore). Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home directories: local(fast) x remote(secure, available)
I've heard that using the Coda filesystem can do what you're looking for. I've used its predecessor, OpenAFS, with success and people seem to like Coda for exactly what you're looking for. http://www.coda.cs.cmu.edu/ They have APT repositories in the Downloads section. I have no idea how well it works on Debian, though. Cheers, Eric Joao Carlos de Lima Roscoe wrote: Dear Srs, I have a bunch of machines (20) and users (~15) working in a develoment facility. I like to keep home directories inside the server room - they're mounted via NFS. This give me short times for disaster recovery, since the desktop machines can be recovered with partimage, and all relevant data is in the server room, where all machines are redundant, are under close supervision, and so on. In the downside: NFS is not as fast as a local filesystem (we've got 100Mbit ethernet, only), and from time to time this costs me something. Beagle, for instance, is not feasible for home directories this way. I'm considering to move the home diretories to the desktop machines, for performance, but the users will have to keep their desktops running even when they're away from their desks (in the lab, or telecommuting, for instance) the keep their homes available. Also, it will be necessary to extend the backup procedures outside the server room. In fact, I would have desktop machines acting as server ones, while running outside the controlled server room, and I really don't like it. What do you, gurus out there, think about that? Any suggestion? Does anyone know about some kind of home caching solution or something? Thaks a lot, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: emacs not installable
Nishita Desai wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Sven Joachim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2008-08-21 21:04 +0200, Nishita Desai wrote: How does your sources.list look? sources.list: # # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r4a _Etch_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1 20080803-21:07]/ etch contrib main # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r4a _Etch_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1 20080803-21:07]/ etch contrib main # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib You might need to add a mirror. I think with that sources.list you'd only be able to install security updates. Try adding a line like: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian etch main then run aptitude update and try it again. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Canada dictionary in OOo in Debian?
H.S. wrote: Hello, In Debian Lenny, I have my locate set as en_CA.UTF-8. However, when I use OpenOffice.Org, on US American dictionary seems to be used. If I select the language to be EN_CA from the Tools-Language menu, the dictionary does not work. So, how do I get the the Canadian dictionary to work OOo in Debian Lenny? I have these installed: $ dpkg -l *myspell* | grep ^i ii libmyspell3c2 1:3.1-18 MySpell spellchecking library ii myspell-en-gb 1:2.4.0-2 English_british dictionary for myspell ii myspell-en-us 1:2.4.0-2 English_american dictionary for myspell Thanks in advance. If I recall correctly, for the longest time one just didn't exist for OOo. OpenOffice.org offers the following page (disclosure: I haven't tried it): http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries I'd be interested in knowing how you make out. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
