Re: Sarge with an Ensoniq Soundscape Elite ISA sound card
Thomas Hood wrote: Um, I think you're trying to build the 2.4 modules from the source package (the /usr/src/modules/alsa gives it away). With 2.6, you need to build the modules within the kernel tree itself. Please note, first, that ALSA modules are shipped in kernel-image-2.6* packages, so if you are using a standard Debian kernel then you normally don't need to build any modules yourself. Note, second, that you _can_ build an alsa-modules package for a 2.6 kernel from alsa-source using the make-kpkg utility. When the alsa-modules package is installed, the module loader will load its modules in preference to those from the kernel-image package. One reason you might want to build an alsa-modules package for a 2.6 kernel is that the drivers so generated are generally more up-to-date than the ones in the kernel. For example, alsa-source is currently at version 1.0.7 whereas Linux 2.6.8.1 currently contains ALSA version 1.0.4. I think I'm almost there. I rebuild the alsa modules with module-assistant and ran alsaconf. My card was discovered (it wasn't before I rebuilded the module). Here's what lsmod says: Module Size Used by r128 106628 2 ipv6 264612 8 af_packet 22600 2 snd_audigyls 26896 0 hw_random 5460 0 pci_hotplug34640 0 intel_agp 22816 1 agpgart34696 2 intel_agp pcspkr 3592 0 rtc12760 0 psmouse20360 0 floppy 61200 0 parport_pc 36900 0 parport41832 1 parport_pc mousedev 10476 2 joydev 9984 0 evdev 9600 0 tsdev 7392 0 usbhid 32192 0 uhci_hcd 33136 0 3c59x 39368 0 capability 4520 0 commoncap 7232 1 capability snd_emu10k1 102536 0 snd_rawmidi25224 1 snd_emu10k1 snd_seq_device 8972 2 snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi snd_ac97_codec 77568 2 snd_audigyls,snd_emu10k1 snd_pcm_oss54184 0 snd_mixer_oss 20160 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm98440 4 snd_audigyls,snd_emu10k1,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss snd_timer 25924 2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 10120 3 snd_audigyls,snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm snd_util_mem4576 1 snd_emu10k1 snd_hwdep 9668 1 snd_emu10k1 snd58148 11 snd_audigyls,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_util_mem,snd_hwdep soundcore 10336 1 snd usb_storage69152 0 usbcore 119012 5 usbhid,uhci_hcd,usb_storage scsi_mod 125196 1 usb_storage ide_cd 42656 0 cdrom 40732 1 ide_cd isofs 37240 0 ext2 71848 0 ext3 127240 1 jbd62616 1 ext3 mbcache 9348 2 ext2,ext3 ide_generic 1408 0 ide_disk 19296 3 piix 13440 1 ide_core 139908 5 usb_storage,ide_cd,ide_generic,ide_disk,piix unix 28692 572 font8320 0 vesafb 6656 0 cfbcopyarea 3840 1 vesafb cfbimgblt 3040 1 vesafb cfbfillrect 3776 1 vesafb I still have alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device when I run Alsamixer. And I don't have any /dev/dsp of mixer or sequencer. They were there a few days ago but something happened (?). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge with an Ensoniq Soundscape Elite ISA sound card
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 05:22:52PM -0500, Etienne Fontaine-Lavoie wrote: Um, I think you're trying to build the 2.4 modules from the source package (the /usr/src/modules/alsa gives it away). With 2.6, you need to build the modules within the kernel tree itself. --sb How can I build the module wihtin the kernel tree itself? I will take a look at the kernel How-to and post again if I can't find. make menuconfig - device drivers - sound - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (what ALSA stands forit was integrated into the kernel with 2.6, as was much of pcmcia-cs). --sb I'm rebuilding a 2.6.6 kernel. I hope it will work. Thanks a lot. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge with an Ensoniq Soundscape Elite ISA sound card
hurdboy@ wrote: On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 11:58:44PM -0500, Etienne Fontaine-Lavoie wrote: After a few months of experiencing things, I just did what Sean told me and I got a SB live for 30$. I don't know if I mess up the driver with my experiences with the Soundscape. I use module-assistant to build the alsa driver and I have errors: /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/acore/pcm_native.c:3053: error: ??? redefinition of `snd_pcm_mmap_data_open' ??? /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/include/sound/pcm.h:948: error: ??? `snd_pcm_mmap_data_open' previously defined here ??? /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/acore/pcm_native.c:3059: error: ??? redefinition of `snd_pcm_mmap_data_close' ??? /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/include/sound/pcm.h:954: error: ??? `snd_pcm_mmap_data_close' previously defined here ??? make[6]: *** [/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/kbuild/../acore/pcm_native.o] ??? Error 1 ??? make[5]: *** [/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/kbuild/../acore] Error 2 ??? make[4]: *** [_module_/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/kbuild] Error 2 ??? make[3]: *** [modules] Error 2 I also tried to use the original alsa driver but the modprobe command fails modprobe snd-emu10k1;modprobe snd-pcm-oss;modprobe snd-mixer-oss;modprobe snd-seq-oss WARNING: Error inserting snd (/lib/modules/2.6.7-1-686/updates/alsa/acore/snd.ko): Invalid module format WARNING: Error inserting snd_hwdep (/lib/modules/2.6.7-1-686/updates/alsa/acore/snd-hwdep.ko): Invalid module format The card is seen with the lspci command and I can use Alsaconf but I got Running update-modules... Loading driver... WARNING: Error inserting snd_page_alloc (/lib/modules/2.6.7-1-686/updates/alsa/acore/snd-page-alloc.ko): Invalid module format WARNING: Error inserting snd (/lib/modules/2.6.7-1-686/updates/alsa/acore/snd.ko): Invalid module format WARNING: Error inserting snd_ac97_codec (/lib/modules/2.6.7-1-686/updates/alsa/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) WARNING: Error inserting snd_timer (/lib/modules/2.6.7-1-686/updates/alsa/acore/snd-timer.ko): Invalid module format WARNING: Error inserting snd_pcm (/lib/modules/2.6.7-1-686/updates/alsa/acore/snd-pcm.ko): Invalid module format FATAL: Error inserting snd_audigyls (/lib/modules/2.6.7-1-686/updates/alsa/pci/emu10k1/snd-audigyls.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) Setting default volumes... Um, I think you're trying to build the 2.4 modules from the source package (the /usr/src/modules/alsa gives it away). With 2.6, you need to build the modules within the kernel tree itself. --sb How can I build the module wihtin the kernel tree itself? I will take a look at the kernel How-to and post again if I can't find. Thanks a lot! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge with an Ensoniq Soundscape Elite ISA sound card
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 08:29:51PM -0500, Etienne Fontaine-Lavoie wrote: I'm sorry. Here it is again in plain text I'm running Sarge with an old Ensoniq Sounscape Elite ISA card. I read a lot during the past few month to get this card working but everything I tried didn't work so far. It's a pretty old card and all the information I could find was outdated. One thing I know is that I had sound with this card on Redhat (can't remember the version but it was in 1998!). The card is not discovered by the system because I got nothing when I try the isapnp tool. I know the dma, irq, etc. but it didn't work when I entered them as options in the alsa file in /etc/modutil/alsa (I did an update-modules after). When I start alsa (/etc/init.d/alsa start), I got this message:Starting ALSA.../etc/init.d/alsa: Error: alsactl restore failed with message 'alsactl: load_state:1134: No soundcards found...'. None of these cards is really PnP. The Rev3 of this card has a flash rom chip to store settings, but the irq, dma, and io port can only be changed with a DOS utility. The Rev1 cards do not have the chip, and must be _initialized_ in DOS, then warm-booted into any other OS to work. This was a real pain, because most of the cards had a Matshushima CD-ROM connector on-board. If the card wasn't initialized before you booted into another OS (I used it with Linux, OS/2, and NT 3.5), not only did your card not work, your cdrom didn't work, either. The sequence was.boot dos, see config.sys load the driver, and autoexec.bat kick off the driver program, hit ctrl-alt-delete, and boot into the other OS. Thank god for OS/2's boot manager back in those days. Also, after doing a lot of things, I heard some scrachy sounds but this was a few weeks ago. Classic behavior of hitting upon the right ports, but not having the card properly initialized. I used to have this problem with OS/2 all the time. I'm guessing, unfortunately, that you've got a Rev1 card, because iirc, the Rev3 cards don't have this behavior (you'll have to forgive any memory lapses here, I sold this card like eight years ago after endless frustration with it). I don't know if my webcam's microphone interfere with the sound card. Seriously doubt it. Those were some messed up cards. If you look closely, you'll see an 8Mhz motorola 68000 processor on the board, probably. That should give you an indication of how weird the hardware is. I was thinking about getting a newer card but I want to give a try with this one before doing so. Buy a SB-Live card. They're cheap now, and deliver better sound than any ISA card could ever hope to. The SoundScape was pretty cool at the time, but its day is long past. I had fun with it at first, but when computers moved past DOS, it left a good amount of hardware behind. -- Sean Bergeron, [EMAIL PROTECTED] After a few months of experiencing things, I just did what Sean told me and I got a SB live for 30$. I don't know if I mess up the driver with my experiences with the Soundscape. I use module-assistant to build the alsa driver and I have errors: /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/acore/pcm_native.c:3053: error: redefinition of `snd_pcm_mmap_data_open' /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/include/sound/pcm.h:948: error: `snd_pcm_mmap_data_open' previously defined here /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/acore/pcm_native.c:3059: error: redefinition of `snd_pcm_mmap_data_close' /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/include/sound/pcm.h:954: error: `snd_pcm_mmap_data_close' previously defined here make[6]: *** [/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/kbuild/../acore/pcm_native.o] Error 1 make[5]: *** [/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/kbuild/../acore] Error 2 make[4]: *** [_module_/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/kbuild] Error 2 make[3]: *** [modules] Error 2 I also tried to use the original alsa driver but the modprobe command fails modprobe snd-emu10k1;modprobe snd-pcm-oss;modprobe snd-mixer-oss;modprobe snd-seq-oss WARNING: Error inserting snd (/lib/modules/2.6.7-1-686/updates/alsa/acore/snd.ko): Invalid module format WARNING: Error inserting snd_hwdep (/lib/modules/2.6.7-1-686/updates/alsa/acore/snd-hwdep.ko): Invalid module format The card is seen with the lspci command and I can use Alsaconf but I got Running update-modules... Loading driver... WARNING: Error inserting snd_page_alloc (/lib/modules/2.6.7-1-686/updates/alsa/acore/snd-page-alloc.ko): Invalid module format WARNING: Error inserting snd (/lib/modules/2.6.7-1-686/updates/alsa/acore/snd.ko): Invalid module format WARNING: Error inserting snd_ac97_codec (/lib/modules/2.6.7-1-686/updates/alsa/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) WARNING: Error inserting snd_timer (/lib/modules/2.6.7-1
Sarge with an Ensoniq Soundscape Elite ISA sound card
Hi, I'm running Sarge with an old Ensoniq Sounscape Elite ISA card. I read a lot during the past few month to get this card working but everything I tried didn't work so far. It's a pretty old card and all the information I could find was outdated. One thing I know is that I had sound with this card on Redhat (can't remember the version but it was in 1998!). The card is not discovered by the system because I got nothing when I try the isapnp tool. I know the dma, irq, etc. but it didn't work when I entered them as options in the alsa file in /etc/modutil/alsa (I did an "update-modules" after). When I start alsa (/etc/init.d/alsa start), I got this message:"Starting ALSA.../etc/init.d/alsa: Error: alsactl restore failed with message 'alsactl: load_state:1134: No soundcards found...'". Here is a part of the lsmod snd_sscape 17184 0 snd_cs4231_lib 28128 1 snd_sscape snd_pcm 98440 1 snd_cs4231_lib snd_timer 25924 2 snd_cs4231_lib,snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 10120 3 snd_sscape,snd_cs4231_lib,snd_pcm snd_hwdep 9668 1 snd_sscape snd_mpu401_uart 8128 1 snd_sscape snd_rawmidi 25224 1 snd_mpu401_uart snd_seq_device 9004 1 snd_rawmidi snd 57828 8 snd_sscape,snd_cs4231_lib,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_hwdep,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device soundcore 10336 1 snd Also, after doing a lot of things, I heard some scrachy sounds but this was a few weeks ago. I don't know if my webcam's microphone interfere with the sound card. I was thinking about getting a newer card but I want to give a try with this one before doing so. Thanks in advance. Etienne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge with an Ensoniq Soundscape Elite ISA sound card
I'm sorry. Here it is again in plain text I'm running Sarge with an old Ensoniq Sounscape Elite ISA card. I read a lot during the past few month to get this card working but everything I tried didn't work so far. It's a pretty old card and all the information I could find was outdated. One thing I know is that I had sound with this card on Redhat (can't remember the version but it was in 1998!). The card is not discovered by the system because I got nothing when I try the isapnp tool. I know the dma, irq, etc. but it didn't work when I entered them as options in the alsa file in /etc/modutil/alsa (I did an update-modules after). When I start alsa (/etc/init.d/alsa start), I got this message:Starting ALSA.../etc/init.d/alsa: Error: alsactl restore failed with message 'alsactl: load_state:1134: No soundcards found...'. Here is a part of the lsmod snd_sscape 17184 0 snd_cs4231_lib 28128 1 snd_sscape snd_pcm98440 1 snd_cs4231_lib snd_timer 25924 2 snd_cs4231_lib,snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 10120 3 snd_sscape,snd_cs4231_lib,snd_pcm snd_hwdep 9668 1 snd_sscape snd_mpu401_uart 8128 1 snd_sscape snd_rawmidi25224 1 snd_mpu401_uart snd_seq_device 9004 1 snd_rawmidi snd57828 8 snd_sscape,snd_cs4231_lib,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_hwdep,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device soundcore 10336 1 snd Also, after doing a lot of things, I heard some scrachy sounds but this was a few weeks ago. I don't know if my webcam's microphone interfere with the sound card. I was thinking about getting a newer card but I want to give a try with this one before doing so. Thanks in advance. Etienne Adam Aube wrote: Please turn off HTML when posting to mailing lists. Etienne Fontaine-Lavoie wrote: I'm running Sarge with an old Ensoniq Sounscape Elite ISA card.nbsp; I read a lot during the past few month to get this card working but everything I tried didn't work so far. I know the dma, irq, etc.but it didn't work when I entered them as options in the alsa file in /etc/modutil/alsa (I did an update-modules after) When I start alsa (/etc/init.d/alsa start), I got this message:Starting ALSA.../etc/init.d/alsa: Error: alsactl restore failed with message 'alsactl: load_state:1134: No soundcards found...' Install the alsa-utils package, then use alsaconf to configure your sound. Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge with an Ensoniq Soundscape Elite ISA sound card
I already used the alsaconf tools. It says No supported PnP or PCI card found. Would you like to probe legacy ISA sound cards/chips? I answer yes and then it starts probing for ISA card. It didn't find any. I got: Unloading sound driver modules...done. modinfo: could not find module snd-opl3sa2 modinfo: could not find module snd-cs4236 modinfo: could not find module snd-cs4232 modinfo: could not find module snd-cs4231 modinfo: could not find module snd-es18xx modinfo: could not find module snd-es1688 modinfo: could not find module snd-sb16 modinfo: could not find module snd-sb8 Is there a way I can tell my card's irq, dma, io. I tried in /etc/modutil/alsa and update-modules but it didn't change anything. Adam Aube wrote: Please turn off HTML when posting to mailing lists. Etienne Fontaine-Lavoie wrote: I'm running Sarge with an old Ensoniq Sounscape Elite ISA card.nbsp; I read a lot during the past few month to get this card working but everything I tried didn't work so far. I know the dma, irq, etc.but it didn't work when I entered them as options in the alsa file in /etc/modutil/alsa (I did an update-modules after) When I start alsa (/etc/init.d/alsa start), I got this message:Starting ALSA.../etc/init.d/alsa: Error: alsactl restore failed with message 'alsactl: load_state:1134: No soundcards found...' Install the alsa-utils package, then use alsaconf to configure your sound. Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge with an Ensoniq Soundscape Elite ISA sound card
Adam Aube wrote: Etienne Fontaine-Lavoie wrote: I already used the alsaconf tools. It says "No supported PnP or PCI card found. Would you like to probe legacy ISA sound cards/chips?" I answer yes and then it starts probing for ISA card. It didn't find any. That was the only suggestion I had. What kernel are you using? Adam I use kernel 2.6.7-1-686. The card is not detected. I should be able to tell the sound driver what is my hardware. I'm clueless. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
