Re: Debian 8 install via pxe-boot

[Forest Dean Feighner]

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 8:11 AM Latif Shaikh 
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Does anyone have proper steps/documents/links for install Debian 8.7
> Jessie via pxe-server?
>
> I have tried this link but not luck.
> https://wiki.debian.org/PXEBootInstall
>
> Please help for same.
>

Not a specific answer to your question but I've had great success with
netboot.
https://netboot.xyz/

Forest

Re: LVM setup with snapshots

[Forest Dean Feighner]

I really didn't prepare for lvm. I never used lvm before this so had no
idea of lvm before.

Snapshots sound like an awesome idea.

I would like to do a configured base install, create a snapshot, and modify
(fork), the base for different things.

With 20/20 hindsight. The default doesn't seem to have room. What are
different solutions other debian/lvm users have used?

Thanks
Forest





On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 2:57 PM, Forest Dean Feighner <
forest.feigh...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 8:15 AM, Greg Wooledge <wool...@eeg.ccf.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 09:20:32AM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>> > > To me, it seems me the partition is too large to to reduce for
>> snapshots.
>> >
>> > What do you mean ?
>> > Did you allocate all the available space in the volume group to the
>> logical
>> > volumes ? Creating snapshots requires space.
>>
>> Yeah, if you let the installer do LVM partitioning "for" you, it
>> notoriously uses up all the extents, leaving you nothing to work with,
>> totally defeating the purpose of LVM.
>>
>> If you do an LVM install with Debian, you have to do manual partitioning.
>> Or at least, you really *really* want to.
>>
>>
>
> Yes, this was my first lvm install using the defaults which did not leave
> enough room for snapshots.
>
>
>
>
>

Re: LVM setup with snapshots

[Forest Dean Feighner]

On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 8:15 AM, Greg Wooledge  wrote:

> On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 09:20:32AM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> > > To me, it seems me the partition is too large to to reduce for
> snapshots.
> >
> > What do you mean ?
> > Did you allocate all the available space in the volume group to the
> logical
> > volumes ? Creating snapshots requires space.
>
> Yeah, if you let the installer do LVM partitioning "for" you, it
> notoriously uses up all the extents, leaving you nothing to work with,
> totally defeating the purpose of LVM.
>
> If you do an LVM install with Debian, you have to do manual partitioning.
> Or at least, you really *really* want to.
>
>

Yes, this was my first lvm install using the defaults which did not leave
enough room for snapshots.

LVM setup with snapshots

[Forest Dean Feighner]

I'm completely new to lvm.

lvs
LV VG   Attr   LSize   Pool Origin Data%  Meta%  Move Log
Cpy%Sync Convert
root   build-vg -wi-ao 463.52g
swap_1 build-vg -wi-ao   2.00g


I used the default stretch of an lvm partition with the gnome.


To me, it seems me the partition is too large to to reduce for snapshots.

I'm prolly not 'getting' lvm yet.

What would be a good layout for a stretch install doing lvm snapshots?

Thanks
Forest

"I've bin kinda lazy lately'

Re: A long rant on Debian 9

[Forest Dean Feighner]

On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 4:51 PM, John  wrote:

> I have been a user of debian for many years on a number of computers
> as well as other GNU/Linux systems.  Recently I discovered that my
> i686 32bit machine was out of support and they were not supporting
> 32bit machines any longer.  After some bad experiences with Tumbleweed I
> decided that I would install stretch so I could get experience of it
> when I am forced to upgrade my firewall (running jessie with a whezzy
> kernel).
>
> So today I d/loaded the net-install iso for debian 9.4 and wrote it to
> a usb stick. Then tried to install on the target (Thinkpad x40).
> Nice idea but it refused to use the wifi, so I proceeded via wired
> ethernet hoping I could resolve the issue later.  In the process I
> think I determined the wifi problem was the need for firmware for the
> Intel ipw2200 hardware.
>
> After rather a long time it said it was installed so I rebooted -- a
> big mistake!  I was hoping for a computer where I could write
> programs, mainly with xterm, emacs (with elisp) and C.  I had asked
> for no gnome no kde no xfce...  I usually run fvwm on X but I got a
> screen with nothing obvious to do.  I did get icons (spit!) offering
> games and firefox but no xterm -- I was expecting to install emacs
> myself as I use a very recent system -- but it was in effect not a
> computer but some kind of toy. I do not play computer games and
> thought I had said not to install any
>
> Since then I have failed to get wifi although I have got the firmware
> -- but no instructions on how to install.  Got aptitude installed and
> discovered load of gnome stuff cluttering up the disk (which is
> limited) and memory (ditto).
>
> How do I get a working computer?  I can ssh in from elsewhere but that
> is not what I need.  And I need wifi.
>
> I have never had this problem in 35 years on unix and linux, and am
> very disappointed.  I suppose I can install things like csh and
> possibly xdm, exim from source etc but without an xterm.
>
> I also noticed eventually that the duff screen came from tty2 rather
> that tty7 that I was expecting.
>
> Sorry for the rant but I really was expecting simplicity as before.
>
> ==John ffitch
>
>
Since you have proprietary driver I believe you need to use the non-free
installer.

Try: https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi since you already have the firmware.

Also, since, forever, desktop environments tend to install a lot of stuff.

HTH
Forest

Re: DEBOOTSTRAP or GRML-DEBOOTSTRAP more suitable?

[Forest Dean Feighner]

Could you skip all that and use something like busybox or buildroot?


On Sun, Apr 15, 2018, 3:20 PM Richard Owlett  wrote:

> On 04/15/2018 12:43 PM, Brian wrote:
> > On Sun 15 Apr 2018 at 08:55:45 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> >
> >> I wish to do an _*EXTREMELY*_ minimalist install of Debian to a USB
> flash
> >> drive (aka /dev/sdb1) assuming use as a MBR device.
> >>
> >> I currently use the i386 flavor of Stretch.
> >> My hardware allows choosing to boot from a flash drive.
> >>
> >> I suspect that if using deboostrap the closest I can come is using
> >> "--variant=minbase" which apparently installs apt. My definition of
> >> "minimalist" would prefer not to.
> >
> > I decided to answer this post without equating "idiosyncratic" with
> > "bonkers".
>
> ROFL <*GRIN*>
> "bonkers" implies "not of sound mind.
> "idiosyncratic" explicitly states my assumption that no-one else may
> have _exactly_ my goals
>
> >
> > apt is Priority: important. Try removing it from any Debian system.
> > For installing, your definition of "minimalist" is of no importance
> > or consequence.
>
> To you, likely .
> BTW, you just reminded me that apt has a "purge" command.
> If  DEBOOTSTRAP / GRML-DEBOOTSTRAP installs "cruft", that could be useful.
> Might even attempt using apt to remove itself ;/
>
> Suggested reading:
> https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-pkg_basics.en supports
> my contention that only "Priority: Required" packages are absolutely
> necessary.
>
> It states (in part):
> > Systems with only the Required packages are probably unusable, but they
> > do have enough functionality to allow the sysadmin to boot
> > and install more software.
>
> 
>
>
> >
> >> For my definitely idiosyncratic purposes *absolutely NOTHING* but grub
> >> related tools will _ever_ be run from this device.
> >>
> >> What are the trade-offs of choosing between debootstrap and
> grml-debootstap?
> >> I understand that either way I have some reading to do ;/
> >
> > Does this relate to your suspicions? Or, is it an unrelated question?
> >
>
> It *IS* the question.
> Is there a difference in capability between DEBOOTSTRAP and
> GRML-DEBOOTSTRAP?
> Or is it *ONLY* a difference of perceived convenience which will differ
> between individuals and/or projects?
>
>
>
>

Re: can't access debian no more

[Forest Dean Feighner]

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 9:21 AM, mess-mate  wrote:

> Hi,
> after an install of windows 10 (need it some a progran can't run on linux),
> somewhat seems to be changed on the hd.
> The startup lock on the disk control/fs.
> regards
>
>
Not much to go on but maybe reinstall grub from the installation CD? Boot
flag for debian partition?

I really don't know what things a Windows 10 install would do.

HTH

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname)

[Forest Dean Feighner]

gmail...

I have little to add.



On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 4:59 PM, deloptes <delop...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Forest Dean Feighner wrote:
>
> > Right on! I used to have an email server in the 90's and even hand wrote
> > the sendmail config file, lol.
> >
> > Shell account, of course, at the local ISP.
>
> and that's why you first topposted and secondly contributed with very
> meaningful content. :D
>
>

Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname)

[Forest Dean Feighner]

Right on! I used to have an email server in the 90's and even hand wrote
the sendmail config file, lol.

Shell account, of course, at the local ISP.


On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Forest Dean Feighner <
forest.feigh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Right on! I used to have an email server in the 90's and even hand wrote
> the sendmail config file, lol.
>
> Shell account, of course, at the local ISP.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 6:50 PM, Ben Finney <bign...@debian.org> wrote:
>
>> David Wright <deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk> writes:
>>
>> > I don't understand why a home user would not be using a smarthost.
>> > Perhaps we're talking about a different group of people. Why would a
>> > home user want to relay mail rather than submit it to a smarthost?
>>
>> First, note that even if you don't know the reason why someone would
>> want to run their own mail server on their own connection, that is no
>> argument to arbitrarily deny them the ability to do it.
>>
>> So, while you're well within your rights to be curious about why, the
>> question doesn't demand an answer. Whoever wants to run a mail server on
>> their home connection should by default have the right to do so, for any
>> reason or no reason, and doesn't need to explain why to anyone.
>>
>>
>> As it happens, there are excellent reasons to want to do this. They are
>> no less strong now than when doing this was much more common in the
>> 1990s and earlier: in order to retain decentralised control, distributed
>> throughout the community, of a decentralised and federated communication
>> system.
>>
>> The news for the past decade (and more) has given frequent reminder of
>> why it's important to wrest control of our communications out of the
>> hugh, centralised choke-points that currently reign. That by itself is
>> reason enough to support and encourage more people running mail servers
>> independent of those entities.
>>
>> The person in question may have additioonal reasons, or separate
>> reasons. The point is that email is *designed* and *works best* as a
>> decentralised, federated system. We should be asking not “why would
>> anyone do this?”, but rather “why have we gone so far in relinquishing
>> the ability to do this?”.
>>
>> And then take active steps to move more toward federated, decentralised
>> communication again.
>>
>> --
>>  \“With Lisp or Forth, a master programmer has unlimited power |
>>   `\ and expressiveness. With Python, even a regular guy can reach |
>> _o__)   for the stars.” —Raymond Hettinger |
>> Ben Finney
>>
>>
>

Re: Debian on flash a store.

[Forest Dean Feighner]

I've found debian to be quit handy on flash store.


On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 10:35 PM, David Christensen <
dpchr...@holgerdanske.com> wrote:

> On 03/13/18 17:00, Richard Hector wrote:
>
>> Apologies for the diversion - does anyone know if there are USB flash
>> drives that _are_ built for full-time use, as a system disk?
>>
>> I've got some old thin clients that could do with storage upgrades that
>> are a bit easier to come by than the weird (PATA?) flash modules they
>> come with. Obviously I could just hook up an external USB ssd, but I'd
>> like to keep the small form factor if I can - then they can go inside
>> the case.
>>
>
> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=disk+on+module=ffsb=web
>
>
> http://www.memorydepot.com/ssd_diskonmodule.html
>
>
> David
>
>

Re: update bios from debian

[Forest Dean Feighner]

On Mar 8, 2018 12:22 AM, "Don Armstrong"  wrote:

Just:

sudo apt install grub-imageboot;
sudo cp 7wuj43uc.iso /boot/images;
sudo update-grub2;

then reboot, and select the right cd image in your grub menu.


Going OT a little but is that all you have to do to add ISOs to grub!?




--
Don Armstrong  https://www.donarmstrong.com

Live and learn
or die and teach by example
 -- a softer world #625
http://www.asofterworld.com/index.php?id=625

Re: An answer - was [Re: Does bash have a tool ?]

[Forest Dean Feighner]

I found this to be a good command line text editing reference:

https://github.com/learnbyexample/Command-line-text-processing



On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 6:54 PM, Richard Owlett  wrote:

> On 03/04/2018 09:26 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
>
>> My eventual goal is to create a personalized FAQ.
>> To that end I've collected all my outgoing mail which DOES NOT have "Re:"
>> in the Subject into a single file {used standard SeaMonkey tools}.
>>
>> Using a text editor's search function I've placed "KEY1" at the
>> beginning of the body of each message. Similarly, I've placed "KEY2" at the
>> end of each body.
>>
>> Searches led to  which
>> describes tools to do word frequency tasks, primarily with bash builtins.
>>
>> First I need to eliminate the irrelevant text between "KEY2" of the
>> previous message and "KEY1" of the message of interest. It should be
>> straight forard to do in BASIC.
>>
>> But is there an already tested function for that?
>> TIA
>>
>
> I've received several suggestions.
> It appears that "vim" is closest to my "mind set".
> I went to the homepage and found ~half-dozen links.
> I found >dozen links to problems I hadn't mentioned.
>
> *FOR THE RECORD*
> Although EVERYTHING could solve stated problem, the vim homepage suggested
> solutions to problems I had not specified.
> I don't know ho they would take it, BUT the think like me.
>
> I've got up to a week's homework ...
>
> THANK YOU
>
>
>
>

Re: Debian New Guy

[Forest Dean Feighner]

I'm new to systemd/systemctl as well.

I had a long delay with NetworkManager-wait-online.service and the delay
referred me to systemctl

systemctl feels more like working with a database. Interesting system to
get acquainted with.



On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 1:54 PM, john doe  wrote:

> On 2/17/2018 1:53 PM, Jeffrin Jose wrote:
>
>> are you looking for path of a command ?  "whereis  systemctl"may be
>> "systemd" is starting point for all scripts during startupcheck "cd
>> /etc/init.d/"  which is atleast one place for startup scripts
>>
>>
> For service files:
>
> /lib/systemd/system
>
> --
> John Doe
>
>

Re: Atypical mod to icons used to launch programs.

[Forest Dean Feighner]

Would there be a text based editor for svg?


On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 6:46 PM, David Wright 
wrote:

> On Wed 14 Feb 2018 at 14:40:09 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
> > On 02/14/2018 01:56 PM, David Christensen wrote:
> > >On 02/14/18 10:57, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > >>I use Stretch with MATE as desktop.
> > >>My current icons are from /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48 .
> > >>I have multiple configurations of some programs installed.
> > >>
> > >>I would like to use icons that are semantically related.
> > >>I would like to use custom icons that are 48 high X 96 wide.
> > >>These would be created joining two 48x48 icons side by side.
> > >>
> > >>Would the MATE panel &/or desktop accept these?
> > >>Assuming it would, is there a simple graphic program that would
> > >>accept to identically formatted images and place them side by
> > >>side in a new image?
> > >>If MATE cannot accept rectangular rather than square icons, I
> > >>suspect I can create an app that can (I think I've seen Tcl/Tk
> > >>that could be adapted).
> > >
> > >I don't know what icons MATE will accept.
> > >
> > >
> > >As for making icons, the defacto OSS graphics editor is GIMP:
> > >
> > >https://www.gimp.org/
> > >
> > >
> > >Or, if you want a CLI app and/ or a library that you can call from
> > >your favorite programming/ scripting language to exactly what you
> > >want:
> > >
> > >https://www.imagemagick.org/script/index.php
> > >
> >
> > Thanks for trying. I had already downloaded both.
>
> Good, you're almost there.
>
> > The are *TOO* powerful to be useful.
>
> Nonsense.
>
> > Using text processing as an analogy, I wish to concatenate two 10
> > character strings to obtain a single 20 character string.
>
> There's no comparison unless the images are just raw scans.
> Even then, concatenation will only succeed if the scans have the
> appropriate orientation.
>
> > LaTeX could likely do that. But it's not appropriate.
>
> Bad choice, LaTeX. Emacs would be a better analogy.
>
> Anyway, what you want is
> convert thing1 thing2 +append output-thing
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
>

Re: What is available for setting services to run levels

[Forest Dean Feighner]

Perhaps, from man systemctl


   isolate NAME
   Start the unit specified on the command line and its
dependencies and stop all others. If a unit name
   with no extension is given, an extension of ".target" will be
assumed.

   This is similar to changing the runlevel in a traditional init
system. The isolate command will
   immediately stop processes that are not enabled in the new unit,
possibly including the graphical
   environment or terminal you are currently using.

   Note that this is allowed only on units where AllowIsolate= is
enabled. See systemd.unit(5) for details.

I haven't tinkered with it yet

HTH

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 4:08 PM, Harry Putnam  wrote:

> What tools do we have for setting services to run levels
>
>

Re: New Kernel fails to boot when laptop is plugged in

[Forest Dean Feighner]

You might try some kernel parameters.

"ignore_loglevel[KNL]
Ignore loglevel setting - this will print /all/
kernel messages to the console. Useful for debugging.
We also add it as printk module parameter, so users
could change it dynamically, usually by
/sys/module/printk/parameters/ignore_loglevel.
"
Quite a few could be helpful in finding the error:

https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.14/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.html

hth
Forest


On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 7:17 AM, Henning Follmann 
wrote:

> Hello,
> I have a strange issue with the newest kernel
> 4.9.0-5-amd64 on this 2011 Macbook Pro.
> As far as I can see it has to do with the power management of this laptop.
> Whenever the laptop is on power supply the boot process stops hard after
> I enter the passphrase for the encrypted lvm. There is one last message
> that it tries to mount root but it stops hard there. There is also no log
> (of course not because there is no device to write to yet).
> when I unplug the laptop during boot it boots fine.
> Previous kernel do not show this behavior.
>
> -H
>
> --
> Henning Follmann   | hfollm...@itcfollmann.com
>
>

Re: apt-get update error

[Forest Dean Feighner]

Ah, so the error is from using Synaptic rather than from the update of
libtasn1-6?

That's the only recent update I've done and I didn't realize Syaptic would
write the file.

Thanks Greg


On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Greg Wooledge <wool...@eeg.ccf.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 03:26:40PM -0500, Forest Dean Feighner wrote:
> > W:
> > http://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/stretch/
> updates/InRelease:
> > The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file is
> > not readable by user '_apt' executing apt-key.
>
> > -rw--- 1 root root   32 Feb  6 17:58 trusted.gpg
>
> Synaptic strikes again. :(
>
>

apt-get update error

[Forest Dean Feighner]

Greetings All,

After updating libtasn1-6 last night I've started getting and an apt-get
update error.

W:
http://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/stretch/updates/InRelease:
The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file is
not readable by user '_apt' executing apt-key.
W: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stretch-updates/InRelease: The
key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file is not
readable by user '_apt' executing apt-key.
W: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stretch/Release.gpg: The key(s) in
the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file is not readable by
user '_apt' executing apt-key.

I've read elsewhere that this file is not used for the debian repositories
and is safely removed. Is that correct?

The file in question is dated the 6th of February.
-rw--- 1 root root   32 Feb  6 17:58 trusted.gpg


Any feedback or advice appreciated.

Thanks
Forest