[Testing] alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
Hi all, I had a perfectly(well, almost) working debian testing installation. before deciding to play with it :-( I'm not going in the details, but it ended up with not having module-init-tools installed anymore. Then I installed the one in the sarge CD, then updated it via internet with the one in testing repository. Now everything is back ... except sound. I updated alsa-xxx packages and installed the one that now is called linux-sound-base. Run alsaconf without problem. But cannot get sound working (it worked before I messed with the system). When i try to run alsamixer, I get the error: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device Also, the startup scripts alsa-base in /etc/init.d fails, giving problems when trying to use amixer (it orints many time s the amixer usage message, as if amixer is incorrecly used), If I try to run amixer by hand I get: amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such device (but I think the scripts attempts to do something more clever - which I had not figured jet). Alsa modules are loaded. The kernel is the same with which I had the sound working before (hand-compiled 2.6.14). Files like /etc/modules /etc/modules.conf and the contents of /etc/modprobe.d/ are the same as before: I had backup that I restored after the messing up. So, what am I missing ? Ciao -- FB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Testing] alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device - SOLVED
I'm replying to myself to add that doing apt-get update alsa-base happily solved my sound-related problems. Ciao --- FB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Testing] alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
Il Sun, 12 Mar 2006 20:10:16 +0100, Florian Kulzer ha scritto: Francesco Bochicchio wrote: Hi all, ... Maybe some more things to check: ... Thanks for your answer. It turned out that an update of the alsa-base package fixed my problem, although I'm not sure how. My gess is that it substituted something broken in the /etc/init.d or in the /etc/modprobe.d directories. Ciao -- FB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alsaconf successful. No sound!
Il Tue, 07 Mar 2006 21:50:14 +0100, Felix Karpfen ha scritto: I ran alsaconf on my recently-updated Debian 3.1r1. It worked like a charm and ended with the following messages: Running update-modules... Loading driver... Setting default volumes... === Now ALSA is ready to use. For adjustment of volumes, use your favorite mixer. Have a lot of fun! However when checking the output of a .wav file by running the play command from a console, I get a deafening silence. alsamixer says the the playback master is set at 74. What have I missed? Prior to the update (when using the Sarge pre-release) sound worked OK. Felix Karpfen -- Felix Karpfen What about the PCM channel? By default with ALSA it is muted and with 0 volume. You need to unmute and raise its volume using alsamixer. HTH Ciao --- FB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
savage card, X.org, DRI, Mesa
Hi all, I'm trying to make DRI work on my laptop, which has a debian stable installed (maybe with remnants of the old testing), and the recent x.org backport fetched from backports.org (Debian 6.8.2.dfsg.1-7bpo1). This is what lspci says about my grafic card: :01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8KM266/KL266] I'v fetched the CVS from dri.freedesktop.org and compiled the kernel modules for drm. (I have a 2.6.10 kernel). Now, if I do dmesg | grep drm I get: [drm] Initialized drm 1.0.0 20040925 [drm] Initialized savage 2.4.1 20050313 on minor 0: S3 Inc. VT8375[ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] All the needed modules are also installed: drm, savage, agpart, via_agp (my laptop has a VIA mainboard) and none complains about anything. X.org seems to be well configured: Section Module LoadGLcore Loadbitmap Loaddbe Loadddc Loaddri Loadextmod Loadfreetype Loadglx Loadint10 Loadrecord Loadspeedo Loadtype1 Loadvbe Section DRI Mode0666 EndSection and doing grep dri /var/log/Xorg.0.log I get: X.Org XInput driver : 0.4 (II) LoadModule: dri (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a (II) Module dri: vendor=X.Org Foundation (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/savage_drv.o ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.4 ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.4 (II) SAVAGE: driver (version 2.0.0) for S3 Savage chipsets: Savage4, STILL, I cannot get DRI. glxinfo shows: name of display: :0.0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: No and any OpenGL applications runs slowly and sucks 100% of CPU. I remember reading (but cannot find the link) that debian has only Mesa packages that do not support DRI, so you need to get rid of them, fetch Mesa sources and compile them. I Have Mesa sources (CVS), compiled it and for now installed it in /usr/local/lib, but noting changes. Do I have to actually replace the libraries in /usr/lib ? Is there a cleaner way to do it ? Ciao - FB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NAT forwarding : only partial connections
On Sat, Nov 27, 2004 at 08:08:36PM +0200, Black Dew wrote: Francesco Bochicchio wrote: What I do is this: On the PC : iptables -t NAT -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE AFAIK it should be -t nat (lowercase). Upcase NAT gives the following error on my system: Yes. I wrongly reported the command in my post. But in real life I use 'nat'. This sound very much like a mtu/fragments problem. It could be that your system send too big packets and something along the way can't handle them correctly. You were right! The problem was the following: - the wireless interface (wlan0) used MTU 1500 - the ADSL interface (ppp0) used 1492 I put an option in /etc/network/interfaces forcing MTU to 1492 for the wireless interface and everything works again. Thanks for the suggestion. It is still not clear to me why this was not necessary with the inverted configuration: as I said in my previous post, using the laptop as router I was able to connect the PC with internet without problems. However, ppp0 and wlan0 configurations are the same on both computers. Anyway, problem solved :-). Thanks again. Ciao - FB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NAT forwarding : only partial connections
Hi all, I have a laptop with installed Sarge and a PC with installed Sid. I would like to implement this schema: Laptop -wireless- PC+ADSL Modem phone lines Provider..Internet I had it working in the past, but after a reinstallation of SID on the PC, something broke. All the connections works: I can connect to internet from the PC and I can connect the laptop and the PC via wireless. What I do is this: On the PC : iptables -t NAT -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward On the laptop: route add default gw pc-ip # where pc-ip is the # IP of the PC wlan0 What I get : partial connections. From the laptop, I can ping internet addresses like www.debian.org and I can resolve host names using my provider DNS, but this is all. Browsers can 'connect' but do not get the pages. Fetchmail can 'see' the mail on the provider server, but fails to download it. And so on. Clearly some packet goes through, some is blocked. But there is no other iptables rule on either laptop or PC. Even more strange, if I invert the machines and use the laptop as gateway, everything works fine with the same setup. So, it has to be some difference in the machine configuration. I have compared network configurations, installed the same kernel version (both standard kernel-image debian packeges), manually loaded the same modules, but without success. Any clue, enybody? Ciao - FB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: reply in lista
On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 11:40:32AM +0200, Davide wrote: come si fa affinch? mutt, quando premo rispondi a un messaggio di questa lista, risponda effettivamente a debian-italian@lists.debian.org e non all'autore del messaggio? sulle altre liste funziona, con questa no, anche se ho messo subscribe debian-italian@lists.debian.org nel mio muttrc.. Io ho in .muttrc : lists debian-italian@lists.debian.org dopodiche' uso 'L' invece di 'r' per rispondere alla lista. Ciao -- FB
Re: email
On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 10:13:07AM -, debian wrote: Thanks for that but i am still a little confused. What is the findutils package and which file in root/bin do I past in the line you gave. do the findutils package will get you the updatedb function, it is updated 'nightly' by the anacron scripts. I use the following in my root/bin directory to update after I upgrade the systen [ cut here ] #!/bin/sh # dodb # Ok lets update the locate database updatedb --prunepaths='/tmp /proc /cdrom /mnt' /dev/null 21 [ cut here ] I have used the find / -iname \*Mail-\* but still cant find any of the files Mail-HOWTO.txt.gz Mail-User-HOWTO.txt.gz then for Admin principles, Mail-Administrator-HOWTO.txt.gz help!! much apreciated jm You probably need to install the doc-linux-text or doc-linux-html package to have the HOWTOs (BTW, all documentation in debian is in /usr/doc, in the process of migrating to /usr/local/doc ). Have a look also to info and man pages of the program to use. Here is what I learned a few months ago, when I switched from the basic Home-PC solution (Netscape) to a more unix-like (procmail+mutt+exim). [I'm not an expert nor a sysadmin, just a programmer and PC Linux user] To do e-mailing 'the unix way', you need software to perform the following functions: * A Mail Transport Agent(MTA) - A program which transports mail from one machine to another * A Mail Delivery Agent(MDA) - A program wich distributes the mail received on a machine to its users (remember:Unix systems are multi-user, thta is it is supposed that many people use them at the same time ). A Mail User Agent(MUA) - A program which allow an user to see its mail and to send mail to other users (by communicating via MTA). Incoming mail usually follows the path MTA-MDA-MUA. Outcoming mail usually follows the path MUA-MTA Many programs incorporate one or more of these functions; e.g. exim can be both a MTA and a MDA. There are also shortcuts, if your e-mail needs are not big and your computer is used in single-user mode. The easiest is to use Netscape to do all mail processing. Or you could ask mutt (or other mail programs) to fetch directly the mail from your ISP and put in your mail-box. The 'classical' solution however is the most flexible, IMO. Ciao -- FB
Re: Debian 2.2 crashes with Netscape..help
On Sat, Nov 11, 2000 at 02:18:27PM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: This isn't a crash, it's a system slowdown. The 'VM' messages seem to hint to Virtual Memory problems, however. I've read that the latest 2.2.x kernels have some VM problems. Almost certainly resulting from insufficient free memory. Netscape is a memory pig, and 32 MB RAM is almost certainly insufficient given the clients you're running -- GNOME is also fairly intensive. Get more memory, get a better box, or ditch GNOME and/or Netscape. 96 - 128 MB is recommended for a typical current-generation workstation. When I had only 16 MB on my laptop, I was able to run gnome and Netscape. Gnome (or KDE) took 2 minutes to start and Netscape took 1 minute, but I could (barely) use them. I found out that the combo WindowMaker+Netscape produced a workable setup. (I did upgraded it to 80 MB, though). The real memory pig is X itself (on my laptop, it took about 8 MB of RSS). I found out that using only 16 bits per pixel (that is 65535 colors) helped a bit. I also proceeded to reduce the number of running daemons, including the number of getty, removing any unneeded services ( and on a Laptop this means almost all ). Anyway my desktop with 'only' 64 MB has no problems (I run Gnome, netscape/mozilla, postgreSQL, apache, ... ). Ciao. -- FB
Re: sound problem with via82cxxx
On Sun, Nov 12, 2000 at 12:52:15PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, I have a KinetiZ7T mainbord with build in VT82C686A use Debian potato and am trying to get sound. modprobe ac97_codec works modprobe via82cxxx fails Had the same problem, so I switched to ALSA. I think the modules in OSS is for a different card. If you want to try ALSA you have to compile from sources, sinche the version in potato does not support the VIA chipset. You need at least 0.5.7. Last time I checked, ALSA modules for VIA had not support for MIDI yet (it was planned, tough), so you may need to use software MIDI instead (e.g. timidity). Ciao -- FB
Re: Got KDE packages, what to do next
On Sat, Nov 11, 2000 at 09:51:07PM +, kentsin wrote: I have the KDE packages to my debian box. It has many packages, how could I make them aware to dselect? I do something like this: - put packages in a directory, say /usr/local/packages/potato/kde - cd /usr/local/packages - create an empty file named 'override' - dpkg-scanpackages /usr/local/packages/potato/kde override potato/kde/Packages - Add in /etc/apt/sources.list the line: deb file:/usr/local/packages/ potato/kde/ - Run dselect, select 'apt' as access mode, execute the Update function and there you are (I hope ;) Ciao -- FB
Re: Question and goodbye...
On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 06:07:11PM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote: you can do that in netscape as well... Before switching I tried to do it. I wanted the mail of each list in a different folder. I thought of filtering by 'From', but in debian lists 'From' is the author and 'Resent from' is the field that actually contains the name of the list (excepting a few messages ). I could not find how to filter by 'Resent from' with Netscape, so I switched. Maybe I didn't search enough. But now I'm more than happy, with procmail that silently fetch my mail an d sort it in folthers. Then I can read it with mutt, neatly sorted by thread (and mutt is faster than any graphical e-mail I know of ). The only thing I'd like is an automatic purging of 'old' mail ( say, older than X days ). But I can live without. Ciao -- FB
Re: info su installazione di Debian
On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 05:27:58PM +0100, Pietro Greco wrote: potrei ricevere possibilmente in italiano le isrtuzzioni per l' installazione di debian poichè ho grossi problemi grazie e arrivederci Cosa ti serve in particolare? Rispondi a me, in questa lista si parla sopratutto inglese. Oppure fai la stessa domanda su debian-italian. Ciao. -- FB
Re: Question and goodbye...
On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 09:42:52AM +1100, Damien wrote: it's the same traffic, just all lumped into one big mail. the traffic isn't that hard to deal with - maybe ten minutes a day, if you've got a good mailer. Yep. It was the amount on trafic on debian-user which forced me to abandon netscape mail client and learn how to use fetchmail+procmail+mutt. Once everithing is distributed in folders and sorted by threads, it is quite easy to pick up the interesting ones. Over all, this was a good thing. I _would_ have problems, probably, if I forgot to download mail for a week or so. Ciao -- FB
Re: gnome-ppp
On Sun, Nov 05, 2000 at 12:00:43PM -0700, Clayton Stapleton wrote: Hi Folks; Have Debian 2.2 running on a Pentium 166MMX, 2 hard drives, only one containing Debian. After configuring Gnome-ppp and attempt to dial out get the following error The pppd died unexpectedly. So tried the Help menu item on the Gnome-ppp window to have a look at any help they had available and got the following: Error loading document ghelp:/usr/share/gnome/help/gnome-ppp/C/index.html You probably don't have this document installed on your system. Looked at /usr/share/gnome/help/gnome-ppp/C and sure enough index.html is missing. Looked at all sources on the 3 CD's and unable to locate missing file. Where can this be found? You have to install gnome-help package, I believe. I can't help you with gnome-ppp, since I don't use it. I used pppconfig to configure my dialup cponnection, and I use the 'modem-lights' gnome applet to execute 'pon' command to activate dialup and 'poff' command to deactivate it. Ciao -- FB
Re: Help needed on Gimp imlib error
On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 01:46:10PM +0100, Jonathan Gift wrote: Hi, I don't know what is going on. I have a pretty vanilla system runnng 2.2, E, and a strict minimum of mainly console apps. Gimp was working fine. I loaded and off-loaded a couple things and now I find that when I open a file in Gimp (default version on board), on the third or fourth I will get intense HDD thrashing and the following: IMLIB ERROR: SHM can't get SHM identifier for shared XImage and another for shared pixmap wrapper. It looks like a problem with shared memory ( see man shmget, for instance). Has it nothing to do with the recent instalations and removals? Has it been this way from the start because I installed it with apt-get instead of dselect and some crucial file was missing? It could be (just a guess) that you have 'old shared memory' still hanging, preventing Gimp/Imlib from allocating the new ones. Did you upgraded Implib while having Gimp running(or other graphical appls?). If so you should either reboot (:-() or manually remove the shared memory. You can see the SHM allocated which ipcs and then remove them with ipcrm -m. The problem is to understand which one to remove (I just did ipcs on my box and I found a whole bunch of shared memory segments which I didn't know I had ... probably Gnome stuff ...). Hope this helps. Ciao - FB
Re: another name
On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 03:14:27PM -0200, Flavio Alberto wrote: I'm have one Debian box 2.2 with name dragon.theserverone.com and like another other name eg.: tiger1.theserverone.com how I'm make this is? Use 'hostname' to set the host name. Do 'man hostname' for details on how to use the command. Ciao FB
Re: Voice recognition (ViaVoice Dictation?)
On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 10:29:11AM -0700, Gary Hennigan wrote: Is anyone doing anything with voice recognition under Debian? I purchased ViaVoice Dictation for Redhat and I've tried to install it under Debian with no success. If anyone's succeeded at this I'd be interested in hearing from them. I don't have the software, but anyway : did you try alien ? You could also use ldd to search which libraries the program need and then do apt-cache --search to find out which packages contain the needed libraries ( I think alien does something close to this). Ciao -- FB
Re: File permissions for /dev/*
On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 04:23:09PM +, Jan Warnking wrote: Hi everybody, Stupid me, I inadvertently changed the permissions for all of the device files on my potato box to 660. How do I get them back to their initial state? I didn't find any documentation on the default file permissions for device files... For now, I took the permissions from my old SuSE, and things seem to work reasonably well, but I'm sure this is not the Right Thing to do. The easiest way to repair this would be a .deb that installs all of the device files in a default way. But the output of a ls -l /dev on a (reasonably standard) potato box would help, too. I'll send you my 'ls -l /dev' on your mailbox directly ( I guess you'll receive at least 5 of them :-). A nice awk/perl/whatever script from a script guru would be nice, I guess ... but I'm not such a guru. Good luck. -- FB
Re: Proposal - simple textual wrapper for packages
On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 02:55:09PM +, guran remberg wrote: A Debian dilemma. Myself and other newbies, which come to Debian to learn how to run a small and properly confined Linux, may be called 'iconographs'. That is to say we don't know the underlying commando structure of what printing implies in Linux - but give us an icon of a printer and we stop asking questions and even get our job done. One of the reason I'm using Linux is that here I can always try to understand the 'commando structure' of whatever I want to do. On the long run, this means that I can use my computer better. Just my opinion, anyway. I have found that Debian, in contrast to Mandrake, RedHat and SuSe automatically starts or lets the user be met by a graphic user interface. To me that means that you have said welcome to us newbies, and accepted an easier approach. This is new. Usually Debian is blamed exactly for not being 'welcome' to new users. And debian has not a graphical installation (though its installation is more friendly than many say). I assume that you are talking of the graphical 'login' (that is programs like xdm,wdm,gdm,kdm,).Or you have a debian-based distro as Corel or Stormix? Anyway, all the other distro you have mentioned have a graphical installer AND some of them installs a graphical login by default. I'm afraid I've lost you here ... :-). The question is then, what is the next step. Surely you can't mean that all newbies shall start with emacs or as you call it emacs20. Which I learned when I tried apt-get remove emacs. I understand that a server without an X-server, needs vi and/or emacs, but you ought to be capable of collecting a nice little newbie starting Debian. Based on mc and nedit, when we are talking editors. I've seen many on this list agree wth you on this. I learned basic vi on other unixes, so I don't count. And I thanks emacs authors every day in my programming job. There are other text-based editors in debian (joe and ae come to mind). AE(Antony's editor) is in the base system, so newbies could use that as well ( if they know it exists). This newbie base, or 'sapper' as I called it, could be the 'bus stop' for the daunting experience of dselect (death select, for me many times). I think the place to discuss this is debian-devel. Maybe you can propose (and even volunteer for ;-) a meta-package debian-newbies which asks basic questions (or try to guess) and install all the packages that newbie need to start with debian (while I'm not sure that such a subset could be agreed). I agree that dselect is intimidating, but now that I'm used to it I cannot do without. Though I would appreciate features like the collapsing of sections in which I'm not interested. I believe newbies would appreciate the possiblity of browsing only at meta-package level, as other distros do. I must say, however, that I first installed Debian ( after having failed twice)because it was the only distro that could fit my laptop crammed disk and let me room to work. An this was precisely because of the 'small granularilty' of the debian package system. regards guran Ciao --- FB
Re: Panel Crash
On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 12:16:06PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, I've make an upgrade from potato to woody and now the gnome panel at startup crashes (segmentation fault) any idea on what i should check? Try to move away your ~/.gnome* directories. You will lose most of the personal settings this way. As they say, TANSTAAFL (or something like that). If it works and you have time on hands, you can try replacing the old files one by one up to find the actual one that crashed the panel (~/.gnome/panel is my guess). So you'll minimize the lost settings ( but it might be easier just to recreate them ). ***Internet Email Confidentiality Footer*** snip A confidentiality note on a public mailing list does not make sense, and surely does not help you to get the answer you need. BTW, I'm not this debian-user your e-mail is addressed for, and as directed I inform you that your e-mail may be mis-directed. I hope for your business that noone on this list will misuse the top-secret information you inadvertently(I'm sure) gave away. :-) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: dove reperire i cd Debian
On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 06:17:59PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vi sarei grato se mi dite dove posso reperire i cd della Debian. io abito a Melzo / Milano Translation : where can I find Debian CDs? I live in Melzo / Milano. Risposta: Rivolgi la stessa domanda nella lista debian-italian. Sicuramente ci sara' qualcuno che abita vicino a te. Se hai almeno una flat-rate e molta pazienza, puoi scaricarti la roba che ti serve via rete e poi masterizzarti i CD. Che io sappia, ci sono alcuni on-line resellers che vendono CD debian a prezzo di costo o quasi ( e.g. cheapbytes ). Solo che qualche volta la qualita' dei CD lascia a desiderare ( specialmente se sono CDR ). E non so se vendono in Europa ne' quando costi il trasporto (probabilmente piu' del CD). N.B : debian-user e' una lista internazionale. Di solito si 'parla' inglese ( il bello delle e-mail e che non puoi sbagliare la pronuncia ). Answer(translated): ... never mind :-) Ciao -
Re: Dual OS
On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 06:01:32AM -0700, Clayton Stapleton wrote: Why didn't Debian use the kernel version 2.2.17pre6 that is on the CD's instead of using 2.2.15-4mdk? Debian usually gives you the choice among several of the last stable kernels. Just install the kernel-package and kernel-modules packages corresponding to your preferred kernel version (this will also cause the deinstall of current kernel-package and modules ). Ciao - FB
Re: Lucent winmodem and Debian with an up to date Kernel
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 02:10:46AM +0100, Jeff Green wrote: A colleague has got some of our laptops which contain internal Lucent winmodems working using DeadRat 6.2 I would much prefer him to use Debian or Storm but the Lucent driver we can find is a binary only affair found on http://www.linmodems.org/ which only appears to work with 2.2.14 kernels anyone have a better answer? Slightly better. You can make the binary-only module work with 2.2.15 = kernels = 2.2.17, if you make a small change to ...include/linux/tty.h and then recompile the kernel the modules (including pcmcia, alsa or other kernel-dependenti s/w). I found this hint on the archive list of www.linmodems.org and re-posted it on debian-laptops ML a couple of weeks ago. Dig in the archives of these list for details. It is not like having an open-source driver, but it might help you. (BTW, I believe RH also is using the binary-only module, so no loss in switching ). Ciao -- FB
Re: funziona con ati rage futy maxx
On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 08:03:20PM +0200, Salvatore Russo wrote: Scusate il disturbo volevo sapere se io ( avendo unas skeda video ati rage fury maxx) posso utilizzare l'installazione grafica con debian 2.2 Translation : sorry, I'd like to know if I, with a video-card ATI-RAGE Fury MaXX, can use the graphic installer with Debian 2.2 Risposta: Debian non ha una istallazione grafica. Forse ti riferisci a una delle distribuzioni *basate* su debian, tipo Corel o StormLinux. In tal caso dovresti specificare quale distribuzione hai. Che io sappia, l'installazione grafica usa la risoluzione 'minima' di 640x480, che va bene per tutte le schede o qualsi. Comunque controlla le schede supportate da XFree86 su http://www.xfree86.org. Nota : questa e' una lista internaziuonale. Di solito si usa l'inglese ( o almeno qualcosa che gli *somiglia* :-). Per utenti italiani esiste anche debian-italian. Asnswer: Debian has not a graphic installer. May be you are talking about one of the distributions *based* on debian, like Corel or StormLinux. If so, you should specify which one. As far as I know, usually graphic installers use the lowers resolution 640x480, wich is supported by all graphic cards(almost). Anyway, check if the card is supported by XFree86 at http://www.xfree86.org. Note: This is an international list; usually it is used english (or something at least *related* to it :-). For italian users, there is also the list debian-italian.
Re: Weird X Problem
On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 07:54:36AM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: xscreensaver has a screensaver that downloads random images from the net... called web collage (or similar name)... could have been the screensaver? they all can be ran independently (they are just programs that xsreensaver run), so you might have one way or another run it... erik Could be, I guess. The strange think is that it did not restore the normal screen when I pressed keys or moved the mouse. Maybe it crashed or was hung for some reason and stopped responding. I have that screensaver installed; it called webcollage. I tried to run it and it generates black screen with fragments of images in it. So, it could be that. Ciao - FB
Weird X Problem
Hi all!
yesterday, I experienced a very weird problem with X : the background of
my Laptop become suddenly black, excepting two areas : one showed a fragment
of a picture with a dog in it ( only the head an part of the body ),
the other showed an half-schetched drawing which could be a dog, a penguin
o similar.
The weirdness of all this is that I don't have these pictures on my hard disk:
after the fact, I also made a 'find -name *.[jpg,jpeg,xpm] -exec display {}'
without finding them (apart from that, I am the only user of the laptop,
so I should know ).
Apart from that, X was still running and all the window stayed open,
except for the one showing a Netscape download, which aborted.
Since my laptop was attached to the Internet with a statical IP and
behind a proxy/gateway which does no firewall/filtering, I also thought
of an attack. I searched the obvious logs and such, but couldn't find
anything. I have no secrets on the laptop, so I'm not worried, but
I'd like to know what the heck happened.
I was running WindowMaker : exiting and restarting it restored normality.
I was running also xscreensaver, so it could be (I guess) a joke within it
(like the fake kernel crash screensaver) : only, it did not disappear when
I pressed keys or moved the mouse.
One last thing : I was downloading a fairly large file ( the Java SDK :
30 MB ) and my laptop small disk is nearly full. Wasn't for the weird
pictures, a file system full could have justified the thing ( except I
whas downloading the file in th /home partition, not in the /system one ).
That's all. I don't know what to think about. Suggestions ?
Ciao
-
FB
Re: Graphical FTP client
On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 06:19:21PM -0400, Chris Mason wrote: I'm looking for a graphical FTP program to use under KDE. My windows program is ws-ftp so anything similar would be best. Just in case you don't know, the KDE File Manager ( kfm with KDE 1.x, konqueror with kde2.0 ) can be also used as a FTP client program. IIRC, for anonimous FTP you should specify in the 'filename entry' the URL ftp://your ftp server path. I believe it would also let you to specify id and password for non-anonymous FTP login, but I'm not sure about the syntax. For basig FTP stuff its should be enough, though dedicated FTP programs can offer more specific features. Ciao. -- FB
Re: Weird spontaneous X (GNOME?) shutdowns...
On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 01:27:43PM +0200, Jürgen A. Erhard wrote: I don't know which package to report that bug on, so I'll ask you folks first... I had a couple weird spontaneous shutdowns of GNOME (it seems)... I come back to my laptop and I see the GDM login screen, though I'm sure I didn't log out. The only thing in syslog is a gnome-name-server[500]: input condition is: 0x10, exiting that seems to be at about the time X shuts down. Yep, but this is an effect, not the cause of X crash. I just looked in the c funcion that generates this message (gnome-libs-1.2.1/libgnorba/gnome-name-server.c), and it seems that this message when the connection with X is lost. Then : the X server crasheed/exited/whatever and because of this GNOME issued the message. Hmm, I can't say I checked gdm's log, or .gnome-errors when it last happened... I don't have any automatic logout daemons running. System is a laptop (Vobis Highpaq Basic1 14), Celeron 566... compiled my own kernel (2.2.17, slightly reduced from the Debian default, just disabled some features I definitely don't need). Anyone experienced the same? Or have some hints where to look? Any pointers are appreciated... From what you said and what I read in another reply to this post, it looks like it is happening when your laptop is idle for some time. This suggests two possible reasons (just guesses, anyway): - the screen saver : check if it is enabled. Try to run it and see what happen. Try disabling it. - APM : check if it is enabled. Try to suspend/resume the laptop and see what happens. Try disabling it. Ciao. -- FB
Re: Debian and compaq presario
On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 02:07:53PM -0500, Daniel E. Baumann wrote: On Mon, 02 Oct 2000, Francesco Bochicchio wrote: On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 01:29:21PM +0200, Olivier Billet wrote: Hi everybody, I've well installed --well, more or less : I just set the X server, some config files correctly-- Debian 2.2 on my Compaq Presario 1200 laptop, but I still have a problem: Is there somwhere someone that has successfully installed the so famous Lucent Winmodem correctly on the same compaq presario? Uhm ... close. I have a Compaq presario 1610, and I managed to make the ltmodem work with kernel 2.2.13. If you don'tf find a closer match, feel free to e-mail me and I'll give you the details. N.B : if you dig in the archives of this mailing list (and debian-user too), you'll find a couple of threads on the 'ltmodem' subject, with some useful info. Ciao. -- FB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] The lucent winmodem driver will not work with a kernel newer then 2.2.14. you can try and use an old ppp module with a newer kernel, but I could never get this to work for me. I know. I tried too, without success :-(. Ciao -- FB
Re: Debian and compaq presario
On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 01:29:21PM +0200, Olivier Billet wrote: Hi everybody, I've well installed --well, more or less : I just set the X server, some config files correctly-- Debian 2.2 on my Compaq Presario 1200 laptop, but I still have a problem: Is there somwhere someone that has successfully installed the so famous Lucent Winmodem correctly on the same compaq presario? Uhm ... close. I have a Compaq presario 1610, and I managed to make the ltmodem work with kernel 2.2.13. If you don'tf find a closer match, feel free to e-mail me and I'll give you the details. N.B : if you dig in the archives of this mailing list (and debian-user too), you'll find a couple of threads on the 'ltmodem' subject, with some useful info. Ciao. -- FB
Re: Problem with Lucent winmodem on debian 2.2
On Sat, Sep 30, 2000 at 11:25:30AM -0400, Shaji N V wrote: Hi, I am trying to configure Lucent Winmodem on my HP Pavillion (6735) box with Debian 2.2. I have followed the instructions from www.linmodems.org for installing the binary only driver provided by Lucent, but still have problems in loading the driver. The following bits should tell the story.. Can someone help me out? The modem is working fine with Windows ME. I am not able to understand what exactly the problem is. 1. Why kernel module is not getting loaded. (Lucent's driver is supposed to support shared IRQ - Shouldn't it probe for the IRQ? Windows ME uses IRQ 3) 2. Why setserial complains about No such device Thanks in advance, Shaji Hi, I have ltmodem working on my Potato boxes ( both laptop and desktop ), and will try to help. Check also archives of debian-user and debian-laptop : there have been others thread on this subject with some interesting info. From insmod -f ltmodem -- Using /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/ltmodem.o Warning: kernel-module version mismatch /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/ltmodem.o was compiled for kernel version 2.2.12-20 while this kernel is version 2.2.17 BIG PROBLEM : ltmodem.o works fine up to kerner 2.2.14. After that, changes in ppp.o broke someting. With 2.2.17, I am able to load it and to dial, but the kernel panics as soon as ppp.o module is loaded. There is a 'dirt-trick' whis works for somebody ( not for me, until now ): it consists of compiling two kernels, say 2.2.17 and 2.2.14, with the same options, then substitute the ppp.o in 2.2.14 to the ppp.o in 2.2.17. I currentrly use 2.2.13. :-( Note : when I compile the kernel, I include the following options: Support more than 4 serial ports Support for sharing serial interrupts Dunno if this matters. I checked the options after having seen this message from ltmodem : Lucent Modem driver version 4.27.5.66 with MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ enabled /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/ltmodem.o: init_module: Device or resource busy Hint: this error can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters Strange. I currently don't have any option in /etc/modules and the module install fines ( I do have option for ltmodem on my Laptop, but that has the ISA version of ltmodem ). From cat /proc/pci -- Communication controller: Lucent (ex-ATT) Microelectronics Unknown device (rev 0). Vendor id=11c1. Device id=44e. Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=252.Max Lat=14. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf410 [0xf410]. I/O at 0x3400 [0x3401]. I/O at 0x3000 [0x3001]. This is mine ( different, but it could be because I have ltmodem loaded): Bus 0, device 16, function 0: Communication controller: Lucent (ex-ATT) Microelectronics L56xMF (rev 1). Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 9. Master Capable. No bursts. Min Gnt=252.Max Lat=14. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xef00 [0xef00]. I/O at 0xc400 [0xc401]. I/O at 0xc000 [0xc001]. From /etc/serial.conf - # These are two spare devices you can use to customize for # some board which is not supported above # /dev/ttyS14 uart 16450 port 0x0260 irq 3 #/dev/ttyS15 uart X port irq X No. I still have both commented. I'd bet this is the problem. From setserial -agv /dev/ttyS* -- /dev/ttyS0, Line 0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4 Baud_base: 115200, close_delay: 50, divisor: 0 closing_wait: 3000 Flags: spd_normal skip_test /dev/ttyS1, Line 1, UART: unknown, Port: 0x02f8, IRQ: 3 Baud_base: 115200, close_delay: 50, divisor: 0 closing_wait: 3000 Flags: spd_normal skip_test /dev/ttyS14: No such device /dev/ttyS2, Line 2, UART: unknown, Port: 0x03e8, IRQ: 4 Baud_base: 115200, close_delay: 50, divisor: 0 closing_wait: 3000 Flags: spd_normal skip_test /dev/ttyS3, Line 3, UART: unknown, Port: 0x02e8, IRQ: 3 Baud_base: 115200, close_delay: 50, divisor: 0 closing_wait: 3000 Flags: spd_normal This is mine (skipping unimportant bits): /dev/ttyS14, Line 14, UART: 16950/954, Port: 0xc000, IRQ: 2 Baud_base: 115200, close_delay: 50, divisor: 0 closing_wait: 3000 Flags: spd_normal skip_test From ls -l /dev/ttyS* - crw-rw1 root dialout4, 64 Jul 5 23:14 /dev/ttyS0 crw-rw1 root dialout4, 65 Jul 5 23:14 /dev/ttyS1 crw-rw1 root dialout62, 78 Sep 28 05:42 /dev/ttyS14 crw-rw1 root dialout4, 66 Jul 5 23:14 /dev/ttyS2 crw-rw1 root dialout4, 67 Jul 5 23:14 /dev/ttyS3 Here it's mine: crw-rw-rw-1 root tty4, 14 Mar 25 2000 /dev/tty14 !!Note the difference in minor number. HIH Ciao -- FB
Re: windows fixed on upper panel (cannot be moved or resized)
On Wed, Sep 27, 2000 at 05:59:25PM +0200, Ulrich Grün wrote: I have installed debian 2.2 with X_4.0.1 (the original X-server refused to connect because of some errno=111). Which one ? (It dowsn't matter anymore, anyway ...) My problem is, that all the windows are fixed on the upper panel on the left-above corner (that is: the window title is not visible). I cannot resize the window, nor can I make a window come to lay on top by clicking with the mouse on that window (I have to use the icon on the lower panel) How can I change that, resulting in a freely movable window? It looks like your window manager did not start when you started the X session. If one of the 'fixed' window is an terminal emulator, type in the command to start the window manager (sawmill, sawfish, or whatever you have) and you will be able to move and iconize window, at least for current session. To fix this permanently, you should do one of the folleoings: a) Insert in the x startup file the command to start the window manager. This file would be .xinitrc if you start X with 'startx' command, .xsession if you have a session manager ( xdm, wdm or gdm ). b) Use a login manager which starts a window manager for you ( like wdm or gdm ). c) Use a session manager which remembers what you started and starts it again (like gnome-session. With gnome, after you started manually the window manager, you should logout ionce by selectiong the option 'Save current setup', in the logout pop-up window ). Furthermore, I only have the SawFish windowmanager. Debian cames with many flavours of window-manager or desktop envirement (KDE will be included in standard distro in the next release, but you can find it somewhere in the Net also for the current one [see other posts in this mailing list]) Just use dselect or apt-get to install whichever you like better. Because I'm new to Debian, things are a bit more confusing to me. Most of the above is not debian-specific, though other distros may make things more easy for users not aware of what is going under the hood. Enjoy your Debian :-) Ciao -- FB
Re: Exim smarthost problem
On Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 12:29:00PM +0200, Frodo Baggins wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi debianers, I'm sure the answer should be in the doc, but I couldn't find it :) Problem is, I use two different ISP, dependig on the time of the day (no flat rate in france). Both of them have a smtp relay server and, rightly enough, each one of them refuse to relay mail for IP in the other one domain. So my problem is, how do I do to have exim smartly choose his smarthost? :) The very bad thing is the do not even use the same hostname, which will allow using just the host name in the smarthost field and let gethostbyname handling the thing by adding a domain line into the resolv.conf files... Thanks a lot for your help Many exim config parameters can be given as so-called 'file lookup', giving you the ability to get the parameter value from a file, a database or even a perl script (duh!). If you can understand how this work (don't ask me), the rest should be easy (but maybe you need to include a kill -HUP to force exim to reconfig after an ISP switch-over) P.S : How's Gandalf ? ;+) Ciao -- FB
Re: mozila eats memory - additional question
In addition to the above post : I have a single Mozilla windows, started recently, but if I do a 'ps' I get 6 'processes' running ./mozilla.bin : are they threads or what ? Ciao -- FB
Re: Missing modules - system still silent
On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 08:47:46AM +0100, Glyn Millington wrote: Many thanks for the help thus far - I was clearly mixing two methods of kernel compilation! Now, I've compiled the kernel yet again (8th try I think) and STILL the system can't find the modules - that is I get lots of can't find module at boot up time. Can you post which modules are not found ? More symptoms... 1. In /lib/modules/2.2.17 there seem to be lots of modules and a modules.dep file. Did you do 'uname --all' to be sure that you are actually running the server 2.2.17 ? Here is what you should have for sound in /lib/modules-2-2-17/misc (assuming you have a sound blaster compatible card ): sb.o opl3.o uart401.o adlib_card.o sound.o soundcore.o 2. /etc/modules contains a list of modules In /etc/modules.conf, I have alias char-major-14 sb options sb irq=5 dma=1 io=0x0220 mpu_io=0x300 # your numbers may be different,OC post_install sb /sbin/modprobe -k adlib_card options adlib_card io=0x0388 Actually, I have these lines in a file, /etc/modules/sound, so that they are put in /etc/modules.conf when I or the package manager run modules-update (this is the Debian Way to write modules config, I believe ... ) HTH etc... etc... Glyn M. -- Ciao -- FB
Re: OT: abbreviations
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 02:17:40PM +0200, Julio Merino wrote: Hi all, because I'm not english I don't understand all the abbreviations you use in the mail... can anybody explain to me ? :) IMHO, BTW, AFAIK, etc etc etc Try this link: http://www.ucc.ie/cgi-bin/acronym Someone could write a man page to add to the distro. :-) And, BTW, you used Off-Topic, so you know something, at least. Ciao -- FB
Re: exim configuration (Authenticators)
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 04:47:46PM -0400, Alessandro Ghigi wrote: I have problems in configuring exim using a remote server as smarthost, because I don't know how to tell exim my username and password on the smarthost. I have posed the question to the exim-users mailing list, and they have replied that I need to use exim AUTHENTICATORS. As my exim has been built by dpkg without support for the latter, they suggest I have to RECOMPILE exim. (See forwarded message below.) Ciao Alessandro, I'm using exim, authenticators and smarthost and I did not need to re-compile it (I'm using potato). Th only thing is that the Debian exim config script, eximconf, does not handle authenticators, so you need to insert manually the section in /etc/exim.conf. This is what I did: ## # SMNP AUTHENTICATION CONFIGURATION # ## galactica_autenticator_login: driver=plaintext public_name=LOGIN client_send=: user : password galactica_autenticator_cram: driver=cram_md5 public_name=CRAM-MD5 client_name=user client_secret= password - The first record is used if your smarthost uses plain-text authentication (no cripted message), the second is used if your smarthost uses MD5-based authentication. I added this section to the end of the file, as for exim documentation. If you don't like having your password plain in exim.conf, I am aware that there is a way to avoid it using exim 'lookup' mechanism (never tried it, however) Is there an easier way to do this under Debian? I would like to use exim for local and outgoining messages and fetchmail for incoming ones. That what I do,too. Plus, I use procmail with fetchmail, to sort incoming mail in several 'mail-folders' (I've read you can do it with exim, too, but procmail works fine for me) Thanks Alessandro Ciao - FB
Re: I can't ever boot-up with my new computer!!!
On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 10:46:32AM -0700, Karl Matheson wrote: Hey, I can't install Linux, because when I boot of the 2.1 CD, it dies, showing me the stack. It looks like this: SNIP.../SNIP scsi : 0 hosts scisi : detected total Partition check: hda : hda1 hda2 RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 general protection: CPU: 0 EIP: 0010:[0017f759] EFLAGS: 00010206 eax: 0001 ebx: 4a88 ecx: 000 edx: 03fe3d94 esi: 03fe3d98 edi: 03fe4a9c ebp: 3d80 esp: 0038f714 ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 0018 gs: 0018 ss: 0018 Process swapper (pid: 1, process nr: 1, stackpage=0038f000) Stack: 0038f78c 0004 0004 03fe4a98 00 00 003f 01ff 4a84 0017fff9 00e40020 00091c14 0009 0006 0001 0038fca8 0038fd3c 4 0216 001e 011e Call Trace: [0017fff9] [00130c00] [0010ac15] [00121550] [001097fa] [001095 12] [00109519] [0010976c] Code: 8d 76 00 8b 15 4c ese 27 00 8a 44 15 00 8b 4c 24 24 88 04 11 Thanks, Cameron Matheson Possibly (just a guess), you have a processor which is not supported by the kernel shipped with Debian 2.1 (linux 2.0.36 is quite old, after all)? For instance, if you have an AMD Atlon (like me ), you cannot boot from Debian 2.1. I think there are others CPUs not compatible with Debian 2.1, but I don't knwow where the list is ( somewhere in www.debian.org, I think ) If this is the case, there are several solutions : - wait for debian 2.2 CDs - it should not be long, now - download Debian 2.2 from the net - Install from debian-based commercial distribution which has newer kernels (Corel, Storm and Libranet come to my mind), then use package manager tools to add others debian packages and remove the ones you don't like. - boot from a floppy made by someone with a kernel 2.2.x, then install debian from hard disk ( never tried this ) Ciao. -- FB
Re: sawmill + gnome?
On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 11:55:31AM -0700, Ron Farrer wrote: Hello; I am trying to get sawmill to work correctly with gnome. Previously I was using windowmaker. For right now I just want to know what I am _supposed_ to have in these boxes inside gnomecc: Name: - I just put Sawmill/Sawfish Command: - '/usr/bin/sawmill' is what I have or do I need something else? Configuration Command: '/usr/bin/sawmill-capplet' is that correct? ASAIK, it's sawmill-ui ( sawmill-capplet does not exists on my system (2.2) Window manager is session managed - not sure? sawmill didn't want to load when I did this.. I selected NO, but I'm not sure either Here is my setup: gdm - gnome-session: which is supposed to load sawmill and panel, but panel never loads... and when I exec it from a term it complains that pager_applet is not responding to save yourself. Try removing the offendin applet from the panel applet list. At a first glance, the list should be the file .gnome/panel.d/default/Applet_Config (never tried that myself, anyway ). TIA, Ron Ciao -- FB
Re: Lilo Problem
On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 10:42:04AM +0200, Dirk Allard wrote: Hi, I just installed the latest slink cd image on my machine (worked ok). Trying to install lilo it wouldn't work, because the boot disk has over 1024 cylinders. Unfortunately the floppy is not working, so I cannot boot through a boot floppy. Is there any way to install an acutal lilo after booting with the debian install cd? One addition: before this I had grub as boot loader (mandrake Linux). Check out the previous thread named 'lilo problems' in this mailing list. You might find useful answers. In summary : - to use lilo with 1024(1023) cyl, you need to run 'lilo -L' or insert the option 'lba32' in your lilo.conf - You might have to remove the existing boot record with 'lilo -u' or 'lilo -U', then create a new boot record with 'mkboot -installkernel', then run lilo. If so, you have to patch the script /sbin/mkboot, wich does not work if you have more than 1024 cyl. Ciao -- FB
Re: lilo problem
On Sun, Aug 06, 2000 at 04:26:14PM -0700, Dale Morris wrote: I'm running libranet version of debian potato. It uses the 2.2.14 kernel. I am having a problem with lilo. My hard disk is a 15 gig with the following partitions /=2500 megs /usr=5000mgb /home=2500mgb /var=1250mgb the rest of the disk is just free space. When I run lilo I get the following error: debian:/home/dlm# /sbin/lilo Fatal: geo_comp_addr: Cylinder number is too big (1046 1023) debian:/home/dlm# My bios supports large disk access, but when I try to reconfigure lilo to do that, I get an error that it's unable to install to the boot block. How would I edit my lilo config file to get lilo to boot from the hard disk? I even tried installing and configuring a new kernel (2.2.16) and it worked fine up until I ran bzlilo and I got an error 2 message, something about being unable to install to the boot directory.. any suggestions? thanks Hi. I had a similar problem with lilo. I'll describe my situation and my solution, hoping that some of it will help you. I had to re-create my boot record. I run 'lilo' as usual, but it failed, complaining that the current boot record (/boot/boot.b) was created using a previous and not compatiible version of lilo ( it was so : I created the boot record using slink-lilo(21.4), while now I have potato-lilo(21.5beta). So I deleted the boot record with 'lilo -U' (have a rescue disk ready ! ) and then tried to make a new boot record using the debian utility 'mkboot -installkernel'. It failed, complaining that there where more than 1023 cylinders (also true, but I had put 'lba32' option in my lilo.conf! ). Looking into the /sbin/mkboot file ( a shell script ) I found that this utility does not look at your lilo.conf, but use a generic configuration file created on the fly. And, it does not put 'lba32' option in this generic file, so it fails when you have 1024 cyl ( I think this is because old lilo did not care about, since the 'lba32' feature has been added now ). So I quickly added 'lba32' to the options used by 'mkboot' script, rerun it and it worked this time. So I had new boot record, but not yet the one I defined in lilo.conf. The last step was now run lilo again, which worked. Not exacly your situation, but I hope some of it will help you. Ciao. -- FB
Re: Corel Linux--your opinions pls
On Sun, Aug 06, 2000 at 10:05:08AM -0700, Aaron Maxwell wrote: I think it's fine. My 1-month-old system came with CorelOS preinstalled. I used it for a week until I changed it to pure debian [1]. I too has a similar experience: because slink won't install on my new Atlon, I installed Corel, which has a newer kernel, then morphed it in almost pure slink. I liked the graphical boot manager and kept it, until recently, when I scratched it installing the new Mandrake on my 'experimental' partition. I believe the Corel boot manager was based on lilo ( at least, it used lilo.conf as config file ) so I wonder if they released their changes. ( Thinking about it, it could be that they just used lilo as 'secont step' of the boot process, so the answer is probably 'no' :-( ) Anyway, I have one concern about using Corel now : it is based on Debian, but on Debian Slink, which is getting old. When updating to potato, the Corel packages will probably broke. Given the current finantial troubles that Corel is experiencing, I doubt we well see soon an upgrade of their distribution (but I hope to be wrong). -- FB
Re: Loading fetchmail man page in Gnome-help uses all memory
On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 08:54:05PM +0100, Lee Elliott wrote: Hello list, I noticed a curious thing this evening - when I load the fetchmail man page in the Gnome help browser, it grabs all my memory - 256MB and ramps up swap usage until all that's gone too - another 256MB - previously none was used. CPU utilisation runs at about 75% on both cpus (SMP system) while this happens. This all takes about 10 seconds on this system. It then frees all the memory, effectively flushing the cache and buffer memory, and displays the fetchmail man page ok. Apart from the cpus being tied up, there's no other obvious effects or consequences - nothing crashes (tried a kernel compile and running Netscape) and the system then seems fine, although swap usage doesn't return to 0MB immediately but seems to drop off over time, probably as the system moves stuff back into main memory. I just logged out and back in and that cleared most of the swap - only 9.5MB used now, down from 64MB after loading the man page several times, dropping to 29MB just before I logged out. There don't seem to be any spurious processes left hanging around. This happens on consecutive loads on this man page: start Gnome help, select Man Pages, select User Commands, select fetchmail - memory used. Use the Back button, select User Commands (again), select fetchmail - memory used. I've got three discrete 2.2.17 Potatos on this system, all with the same s/w installed - I've tried it on two of them with identical results - reboots make no difference. At least it shows I'm keeping them in step;) This doesn't happen if the fetchmail man page is loaded from a Gnome term: 'man fetchmail' Yep! Same on my machine ( potato, kernel 2.2.13, 64 MB + 150 MB swap ) dmesg gives: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for gnome-man2html... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for gnome-man2html... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for procmeter3... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for gnome-man2html... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for init... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for sh... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for sh... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for sh... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for sh... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for procmeter3... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for tasklist_applet... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for gnome-man2html... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for gnome-man2html... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for sh... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for sh... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for XF86_SVGA... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for sh... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for sh... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for procmeter3... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for mount... VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for procmeter3... No. Nothing like that on my machine . I'm getting really crappy conections at the moment so I've not been able to check the bug list, but if any one else gets the same behaviour I'll check it out and raise a bug if neccessary. I noticed that the man page of fetchmail is quite long. Gnome Helper calls 'gnome-man2html' to convert man pages into html pages, and probably this is the program which sucks so much memory and CPU. Dunno if this counts as a bug, though. LeeE -- Ciao -- FB
Re: Easy potato installation alternative?
I remember that someone once said in this list that installing Corel and then upgrading wouldn't work well... Mmmm, I think it depends on what you want to do. When I bought my current Desktop, an Atlon 700, I couldn't install from the Slink CD, bucause the kernel with it (2.0.36) was too old. So I installed from a Corel Network Edition I found on a magazine, then removed ALL non-standard Debian packages (Corel KDE File Manager etc...), then completed the install from slink CD. A few weeks after, I was able to upgrade to Potato over the Net ( about three hours at 56 Kb :-( ) . It could be that I still have fragments of Corel here and there. OTHA, I got a nice boot manager ( Anybody knows if it is possible to change the initial splash screen ? I think the file is /boot/splash.lilo, but in which formatù it is ? ). Of course, if I had wanted to keep some of the Corel special packages with Potato, I would have been disappointed. Again, it depends. Not sure if the saved download time is worthing the extra configuration hassle, though. Ciao -- FB
Re: Easy potato installation alternative? - errata corrige
All true but the dounload time : I don't remember exactly, but it could not be 3 hours only. The maximum I can do is 5.5~6kB/sec and I downloaded about 200 MB ! -- FB
Re: Compiling mc-4.5.44 [no:command not found]
On Sat, Jul 29, 2000 at 02:34:29AM -0700, Sherab Puntsok wrote: Hi debs, I have a problem on compiling mc-4.5.44.tar.gz no: command not found Details: make[1]: Entering directory `/home/download/mc-4.5.44/po' file=./`echo nl | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ rm -f $file PATH=../src:$PATH no -o $file nl.po make[1]:***[nl.gmo]Error 127 I've tried dpkg -S no, but couldn't find it. Any hints appreciated. Thank you. Alan From a quick look to my version of the Makefile ( mc-4.5.50/po/Makefile ), I believe that the rule which failed is : .po.gmo: file=$(srcdir)/`echo $* | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ rm -f $$file $(GMSGFMT) -o $$file $ In the same Makefile, the variable GMSGFMT was set as follows : GMSGFMT = PATH=../src:$$PATH /usr/bin/msgfmt From the little I know, I understand your system is missing 'msgfmt'. 'no' is probably the substitution string taht 'configure' used when it didn't find this program ( the configure script should have failed; check your config.log if you still have it ) Finally, dpkg -S msgfmt says : MyDesktop:~$ dpkg -S msgfmt gettext: /usr/bin/msgfmt So, try intalling gettext package and compiling again. Of course, if you have it already, I'm completely wrong :-) -- FB
Re: Wine Windows Emulator
On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 02:23:20AM -0700, Thomas Loredo wrote: I am a newbie to the Linux OS and I am using Corel Linux. I was trying to install the Wine emulator and can't figure out how to do this, if anyone can help please do so? Thanks, Tom Loredo You should use dselect, or a similar Package Manager program (I half remember that Corel has a sort of 'gnome-apt'), to install the debian packages named 'libwine' and 'wine'. My advise : if you think to run all or most of your windows programs with wine, you could be disappointed. As far as I know, it is still ALPHA-quality software, and many window applications do not run under it. Last time I checked, I downloaded their March 2000 release (2326) and the most complex program I could run was Paint.(I'm sure it can do more than this; not with my programs, anyway). Moreover, the version with ships with Corel is probably old ( I don't know : on the network edition CD I have, wine is not present ). If you want to run a single application or a few ones, you may be lucky. Before installing wine, I suggest to check their web site: they keep a list of all the programs which have successfully run under Wine. Ciao -- FB
Re: how to start gnome
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:29:19 Nick wrote: i loaded gnome a long time ago and forgot how to start it i have tried gnome-sessionand not luck gnome-session is correct, but the first time you should create the session ( ASAIK gnome-session just allows to save the program started in a session and start next session with the same programs ). I do it in this way : 1) first time have an .xsession like this : xterm gnome-session then startx ( o login using xdm [ or similar lohgin manager ] ). 2) from the x-term start : sawmill ( or whatever is your WM ) panel 3) logout using the panel main menu and SAVING THE SESSION 4) edit .xsessione and remove xterm . Next time, gnome should start by itselv th WM and the panel. One could expect a 'default session' to be use the first time ... but that is. Ciao. -- FB
Re: rank newbie - no mouse
On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 06:34:50 sido wrote: I installed Debian Linux and everything works great except for X which looks fine except the mouse doesn't move. I've re-installed the OS 3 times now and searched for help on the mouse but not come up with much. I tried to run mouseconfig but couldn't find it. The mouse is a 3-button mouse, manufacturer Digital. ls -l /dev/mouse /dev/mouse- ttyS0 That doesn't seem right to me but I can't figure out how to change it either. If the mouse is a serial mouse attached to the first serial port ttyS0 is correct. The program to setup X configuration is called XF86Setup. I does not list any 'Digital' mouse, however, but you could experiment with the different setting ( tou can navigate the window using 'tab' key and press the selected button using 'enter'. Good luck. -- FB
Re: GNOME+Sawmill workspaces
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:32:40 Ed Cogburn wrote: I have GNOME and Sawmill/Sawfish (latest debs from potato/woody) and I want to have 4 workspaces in a horizontal row. The GNOME pager works as I want it to, except that Sawmill allows moving the cursor to the top or bottom of the screen as a way to change workspaces just like moving the cursor to the left or right side of the screen, where top=left and bottom=right. I want it to not allow changing workspaces by using the top and bottom of the screen so I can use Gnome's toolbar along the bottom of the screen with auto-hide on without any annoying interaction. Does anyone know if this can be done? Run sawmill-ui (sawdust-ui ?) Select Edge Flipping. Disable Flip to next viewport I run sawmill 0.21 which is a bit newer of the version in potato. Hope the option is already there. Ciao -- FB
Re: Install X windows Command??
Debiandomain wrote: Hi Group, I just noticed X windows didnt install after doing a fresh install of slink. How do I install it? Do I use dkpg or something? I normally install it with everyhting else but I guess I forgot to select it or something. Thanks -- You could use dselect and select the package xserver- ( e.g. xserver-svga ), where depends on the kind of graphic card you have. dselect will pick all the packages needed to by the server (not the client apps, however). Then you have to run XF86Setup to configure X. I usually initially install also the package xserver-vga16, which will give you low'resolution X (16 colors, 640x480 pixels) in case XFree86 does not support your graphic card. Ciao -- FB
