Re: Gnus: alles QP schreiben
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Großjohann) wrote: Nach langen Diskussionen hier habe ich mich überzeugen lassen, dass dies die in de.ALL gern gesehene Variante ist, und deswegen habe ich die Gnus-Maintainer darum gebeten, das (8bit) als Default einzustellen. War das falsch? Nein, das war sicherlich richtig, aber wie ich im Vorgänger-Artikel schrieb: Mittlerweile sehe ich einfach nicht mehr ein, irgendwelche Rücksicht auf die OjE (L)User zu nehmen, die mich ihrerseits mit TOFU und sonstigem Schrott belästigen und möchte wieder QP schreiben Vielleicht ist Dir nicht bekannt, daß OjE bei QP einen weiteren, üblen Bug aufweist: bei Antworten auf einen QP- oder Base64 encodierten Artikel läßt OjE das Quote-Zeichen weg. Wenn der OjE (L)User das nicht manuell korrigiert, sind Quotes und Eigenanteil praktisch nicht voneinander zu unterscheiden und der Typ handelt sich massig Rüffel der anderen Teilnehmer ein. *eg* Etwas subtiler als der begin-end Trick, ich muß dann nichtmals etwas schreiben, das machen dann schon die anderen ;-) FFPX Frederick -- Why do they put braille dots on the drive-through ATM machine?
Re: Gnus: alles QP schreiben
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Wiehl) wrote: Ich habe jetzt aber (setq mm-use-ultra-safe-encoding t) in ~/.gnus.el geschrieben, und es scheint zu wirken. Keine Ahnung, ob dadurch etwas anderes kaputt geht -- Benutzung auf eigene Verantwortung. ;-) Scheint auch bei mir zu wirken, hab gerade in eine Test-Gruppe erfolgreich gepostet. Vielen herzlichen Dank für Deine Bemühungen. Bis denne! Frederick -- What do you call a man with half a brain? Gifted.
Re: Outlook, die Schweinepest des Internets
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wilfried Kramer) wrote: Sind doch 4 Zeilen, ohne Kamm gesendet. Wo siehst Du das Problem? Ich scheine seltsamerweise der Einzige zu sein, der Kamm sieht. Das sieht schwer danach aus, als ob das Problem auf meiner Seite läge, bzw. vor'm Bildschirm sitzt :-( Gnus warnt mich übrigens you have lines longer than 79 chars (...) Du drückst diese Warnung anscheinend einfach so weg, das erstaunt mich nun schon, da Du Wert auf standard-konforme Beiträge zu legen scheinst. Die Beschränkung auf 72 Zeichen gilt für den reinen Text, nicht für die Signatur. Hm, das mag natürlich sein, daß Gnus zwischen Signatur und dem Rest des Bodies unterscheidet und Nikola (da Signatur) nicht warnt, mich aber schon, da ich (ausnahmsweise) die Sig zitiert habe. Die Sig. wird üblicherweise nicht zitiert, so daß im Ergebnis keine Zeilen mit mehr als 80 Zeichen erscheinen. So ist es, ich mußte die extra manuell reinkopieren, Gnus entfernt die beim Follow-Up freundlicherweise schon. Irgendwelche Mißverständnisse noch offen (u.U. auch bei mir)? Nein, ich scheine etwas falsch konfiguriert zu haben. Danke für die Hinweise und bis denne! Frederick -- The difference between a rooster and a blonde? The rooster yells cock-a-doodle-doo, the blonde yells any cock'll do
Re: Hitting web site consistently dropped ppp connection?
Hi John, you wrote on Sun, Mar 21 1999: Sounds likely, but any modem that does so is defective. The modem should ignore +++ unless it is preceded and followed by a pause. It normally does, but IMHO the pause is not required. Anyway, the default value (US-Robotics/3Com) in Register S02 is 043 (the plus sign), changing this to something different should solve the problem anyway. You normally don't need the escape codes. Kind regards Frederick
Re: apt-get question
Hi Shawn, you wrote on Sat, Mar 20 1999: In hamm, it was such a task to install a package in dselect because it rolls through every single package on the dist. Does slink resolve this problem and more specifically, is apt-get the resolution? You may have overlooked it: there was an apt in the original hamm distribution, maybe a little hidden in directory tools on the first (binary) CD. Could be installed with dpkg -i /mnt/cdrom/(path)/apt... In dselect you then got the option apt-get, switch to that, configure /etc/apt/sources.list correctly, select your packages with dselect (helps resolving conflicts), then quit dselect (don't install with it!) and issue in the shell apt-get dselect-upgrade. This prevented the ennoying check of all packages already in hamm. But you had to mount the cd-rom first (dselect did that for you if it wasn't already mounted). I'm still on hamm, but I see no reason, why this shouldn't work with slink or potato. Kind regards Frederick -- Why don't cannibals eat clowns? They taste funny.
Re: Exim wierdness
Hi Jim Foltz, you wrote on Sun, Feb 21, 1999 at 09:48:00PM -0500: I am experiencing some wierdness with exim. I run fetchmail and download say 30 messages, but only some of them show up in my mail box. (some filters snipped) You did not specify, what to do with the messages, that *don't* fit into your filter-patterns. So I suggest the following (of course you'll need to adjust those): # deliver personal mail to local account fpage if personal then deliver fpage finish endif # this takes care of emails from cron, uucp, news, etc. if $sender_address matches (uucp|news|root)@thebetteros then save $home/mail/statistics finish endif # *LAST* filter pattern in~/.forward as safety-net # if filter reaches this point and mail is still undelivered: # save to abnormal and email root (it's alias) about this if not delivered then mail text Abnormal Delivery! $header_subject save $home/mail/abnormal endif Tell us, if it works. Kind regards Frederick -- Linux *is* user-friendly. It's just a little picky about it's friends.
Re: pine mutt
Hi John Galt, you wrote on Sun, Feb 21, 1999 at 09:13:38PM -0700: I dunno about scoring--I rarely use the function, but I re-migrated back to TRN when I realized that SLRN had no killfiles, what I consider to be an essential tool in USENET. You might want to read /usr/doc/slrn/SCORE_FAQ.gz, I quote: Subject: 4. How do I score postings from a specific person? Score: - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] assigns a score of - to the person [EMAIL PROTECTED] A score of - is a special score. If an article scores this value on a given test, any other tests for the article will be skipped and *the article will be killed*. What's your problem? Kind regards Frederick -- Linux *is* user-friendly. It's just a little picky about it's friends.
Re: CRASH: filesystem went read only
Hi Richard Harran, you wrote on Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 05:14:30PM +: I just had a huge panic, when my file system 'spontaneously' turned read only! man tune2fs Your device has reached the time between two file-system checks. Wait until the checks are finished, it should become rw again after that. Kind regards Frederick -- Linux *is* user-friendly. It's just a little picky about it's friends.
Re: pine mutt
Hi Steve Lamb, you wrote on Sat, Feb 20, 1999 at 09:22:34PM -0800: *WHY!?* Anyone familiar with mutt would know that it was modeled after a newsreader, SLRN! So why contribute to bloat by having those two functions in the same program, especially mutt, when one can have mutt and slrn with similar key mappings, similar colors, etc, etc, etc... Well I tried pine at first (it did news, but not too good), then tried SLRN, which was pretty good, but had no nice filtering/scoring. Then I tried tin and it's IMHO great. mutt is also highly configurable (as tin), so if you put some work into it, you get them both to your liking. The biggest disadvantage of SLRN was the only basic filtering. In short, any patch to mut to mangle it to read news will fall severely short of slrn or any other dedicated news reader. Absolute agreement. Kind regards Frederick -- Linux *is* user-friendly. It's just a little picky about it's friends.
Re: pine mutt
On Sat, Feb 20, 1999 at 11:05:56AM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: problems using mutt to send mail to a lot of people at once. Pine's way of handling the addressbook and aliases works better for me. It's the other way around here: I used Pine for email and news, was content about the way it handled email, but it sucked for news. And it did not have color, which is very helpful (for me). Now I use mutt and tin and am quite happy with both. Kind regards Frederick -- Linux *is* user-friendly. It's just a little picky about it's friends.
Re: Smail - Exim: If smail works, why change?
On Sat, Feb 20, 1999 at 11:54:31AM -0500, Jim Foltz wrote: Hi Jim, Is there any compelling reason to switch from smail to exim? How about this: Ease of configuration with Exim, and Procmail (with it's cryptic recipes) becomes obsolute, because Exim has already very powerful filtering capabilities in kind of a basic language. There's also an Exim-monitor (for X) Example for filtering with exim: # take care of mailing list debian-user if $header_X-Mailing-List contains debian-user@lists.debian.org then save $home/mail/debian-user finish endif # Save all non-urgent messages by weekday: if $header_subject: does not contain urgent AND $tod_full matches ^(...), then save $home/mail/$1 endif Convinced? :-) Kind regardsFrederick -- Linux *is* user-friendly. It's just a little picky about it's friends.
Cnews: potential minor bug
Hi all, experimented a little on which news-server to use: cnews or inn. Finally decided for inn and removed (not purged) cnews via dselect. Only problem was the cron-job (/etc/cron.d/cnews) remained, was not de- activated and caused lots of emails, because the pathes and files were (of course) not found. Just wanted to bring this to attention, hopefully this is the right place? Kind regards Frederick
Exim and Mailagent?
Hi all, I'm getting email and news from my UUCP-provider, have setup exim, inn and pine, tried to run Mailagent (instead of procmail), set up my ~/.forward according to the mailagent-docs to the following line (including the quotation marks): | exec /usr/lib/mailagent/filter -o /home/fpage/.bak However, in Exim's errorlog I find (all in one line): 1999-02-13 03:15:03 10BUbm-Dw-00 ** | exec /usr/lib/mailagent/filter -o /home/fpage/.bak [EMAIL PROTECTED] D=userforward T=address_pipe: exec command not found for address_pipe transport The corresponding entries in my /etc/exim.conf are # Director userforward: driver = forwardfile no_verify check_ancestor file = .forward modemask = 002 filter # Transport address_pipe: driver = pipe return_output What did I do wrong this time? :-( Kind regards Frederick
Re: exim and uucp
I have exim and uucp working here. In the main configuration settings: Thank you very, very much for your extremely helpful exim-config. What can I say? (Look at my mailer!) IT WORKS !!! I really appreciate your help! Kind regards Frederick
No such site (UUCP-News)
Hi all, I'm getting Email and News via UUCP, email works (can read and send), I get news, can also write, but they don't get sent :-( When I do uupoll downtown I get no such site and only receive news. I use uucp, exim, inn and pine, all from the original Debian distribution CD 2.0 (Kernel 2.0.34). My UUCP provider is downtown, my linux-system-name thebetteros, my point- name is ntrulez, my email-address [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have the following config-files (stripped commentaries) /etc/uucp/call downtownuntrulez* /etc/uucp/config nodenamentrulez /etc/uucp/sys system downtown alias downtown.oche.de alias news.oche.de alias downtown.UUCP time any baud 115200 port ACU phone 02418863200 protocol ig protocol-parameter g packet-size 1024 protocol-parameter g window 6 protocol-parameter g remote-packet-size 1024 protocol-parameter g remote-window 6 protocol-parameter g timeout 12 protocol-parameter G packet-size 1024 protocol-parameter G window 6 protocol-parameter i packet-size 1024 protocol-parameter i window 6 protocol-parameter i remote-packet-size 1024 chat-timeout 90 chat ogin: \L word: \P call-login untrulez call-password /etc/news/feeds ME:*:: overview:*:Tc,WO:/usr/lib/news/bin/overchan news.oche.de\ :*,!junk/!local\ :Tf,Wnm:news.oche.de /etc/news/hosts.nntp downtown: /etc/news/inn.conf domain: ntrulez.oche.de organization: User of a better OS server: downtown pathhost: ntrulez.oche.de fromhost: ntrulez.oche.de /etc/news/send-uucp.cf downtowngzip 10048576 18,19,20,21,23,1 news.oche.degzip 10048576 18,19,20,21,23,1 /etc/news/server thebetteros /etc/news/nnrp.access *:: -no- : -no- :!* stdin:Read Post:::* localhost:Read Post:::* 127.0.0.1:Read Post:::* *.ntrulez.oche.de:RP:::* Sorry for the long mail, but I did not just want to write news don't work :-) Kind regards Frederick
Re: apt for hamm
Hi Chris, you wrote on: 06 Feb 99 at 19:13 (received 07.02.99) about : _apt for hamm_ Can someone tell me where I can find the version of apt that works for hamm? On the first CD in directory /tools You'll need to install it with dpkg -i Afterwards dselect will have the additional option (Access method) of apt. Kind regards Frederick
exim: socket bind () failed
Hi all,
sorry to bother you again with another exim-question, I already RTFM, also
several howtos but could not find anything (/var/logs/exim/mainlog),
everything seems to work, but those messages keep popping up:
1999-02-04 23:43:16 socket bind() to port 25 for address (any) failed:
Address already in use: waiting before trying again
1999-02-04 23:43:46 socket bind() (...)
1999-02-04 23:44:16 socket bind() (...)
1999-02-04 23:53:00 Start queue run: pid=180
1999-02-04 23:53:00 End queue run: pid=180
Several hours pass, exim delivers email, gets email, but then again, those
socket bind msgs come up again. Doesn't seem to do anything bad, but exim
keeps writing those msgs in it's paniclog and it ennoys me.
To be more specific: I run Kernel 2.0.34 (Hamm) and the official
distribution 2.0 from Linux Press. Also UUCP and EXIM from that
distribution (installed the binaries, did not compile).
My /etc/exim.conf looks like this (only relevant parts):
# Transport
uucp_rmail:
driver = pipe
user = nobody
command = uux --stdin --nouucico --requestor \
'${if eq {$sender_address}{}{mailer-daemon}{$sender_address}}' \
$host!rmail $pipe_addresses
return_fail_output = true
no_retry_use_local_part
# Router
uucp_rmail:
driver = domainlist
transport = uucp_rmail
route_list = * downtown
The rest is more or less defaults. As I said: it seems to work fine, it
just complains but does everything I want.
Kind regards Frederick
Re: Having Apt save packages in local hierarchy.
Hi Christopher, you wrote on: 04 Feb 99 at 15:53 (received 05.02.99) about : _Having Apt save packages in local hierarchy._ Whenever Apt fetches new packages, is there a way for it to save them? Yes, I believe so. Sorry, I don't know the exact syntax, but remember to have read it with man apt-get. There is an option, that makes apt just download the files, without installing them. Preferably, if Apt could understand the local directory hierarchy and automatically put them in their place that would be wonderful. I dunno where apt stores those files, but there's a way to find out :-) Kind regardsFrederick
Re: exim: socket bind () failed
Hi George, you wrote on: 04 Feb 99 at 17:01 (received 05.02.99) about : _Re: exim: socket bind () failed_ Looks like more than one exim is running or tries to run. Do you happen to have exim running as both a daemon and in inetd? Do you have a cron job that runs the queue that tries to start exim in daemon mode (-bd set?). Looks to me like there are too many listeners. Thank you very much for your valuable info. I'm still a newbie and don't know much about those things, but will try to look into that. Did not configure anything about two instances of exim (at least not intentional). I appreciate your help very much. Thanks and kind regards Frederick
Re: How to upgrade sendmail ?
Hi Ryszard, you wrote on: 05 Feb 99 at 15:26 (received 05.02.99) about : _How to upgrade sendmail ?_ Could anyone explain me, how to upgrade in Debian sendmail ? I'm using Debian 2.0 and I would like to upgrade my sendmail to version 8.9. How can I do that having only sendmail's sources? I can't uninstall debianized version of sendmail because of dependency on mail-transport-agent. How can I solve such a problems? Get the sources, put them somewhere. cd /usr/src dpkg-source -x /(yourPath)/sendmail.8.9.dsc This will patch the sources, extrakt them and put them into the right place. Then you cd sendmail8.9 debian/rules binary and (hopefully) get a *.DEB package in /usr/src. This custom-version (even if it's the same version number) can just be installed by cd .. dpkg -i sendmail8.9.deb and will upgrade your existing sendmail. Kind regards Frederick
Re: Goodbye, people!
Hi kaynjay, you wrote on: 02 Feb 99 at 20:11 (received 03.02.99) about : _Re: Goodbye, people!_ will get there. What I do have is a system that doesn't crash every five seconds, it is fast and very configurable I guess what I'm trying to say is if I can work with this O/S anyone can. It just takes time. Use Windows but keep plucking away at Linux:) Give yourself something to compare Windows to. I have to agree with you, Kent. My primary system is still OS/2 (note the mailer) but I am slowly moving into Linux/Debian. I have far less time than I'd like to spend with it, but I can see the benefits down the road. Now if I can only get X up to a state my wife would find palatable ... :) Same here, Windows NT user, *but* already using a UUCP provider for my emails and news (CrossPoint). At first, I messed up the system about each and every day. Formatted the HD about 12 to 15 times and re-installed Linux (had /etc/* saved) :-) Finally compiled my custom-Kernel with soundblaster support and it even worked! Boy, was I proud! Managed to install netscape finally, set up a PPP provider, can surf the WWW. All went surprisingly smooth (thanks to pppconfig). Then I became cocky, just wanted to switch to Linux with UUCP. Installed sendmail, procmail, pine and failed miserably. Gosh, I really hate sendmail-config, that's a real pain in the you-know-what. Then switched to exim (instead of sendmail), that worked better, I received email, got confident again, but configuring a mailer to UUCP is more work than I thought. Now I'm waiting for some good prince to come along and help me with that :-) (already posted the question exim and uucp here today). But I'm stuck with Linux now and I'm really working to make it my *only* OS, no matter what cryptic configs I may have to run. Kind regards Frederick
no permission for rnews
Hi all, finally got exim up and running with uucp. Everything seemed to work: I received email, even could send it. But when I got news via uucp, the uupoll gave me error-messages and sent the following emails to root: -- schnipp --- This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to all of its recipients. The following address(es) failed: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: unknown local-part downtown!news in domain ntrulez.oche.de -- This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. -- Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from uucp by thebetteros with local (Exim 1.92 #1 (Debian)) id 108U1T-3E-00; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:01:07 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Execution failed Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: uucp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:01:07 +0100 Message from UUCP on ntrulez Thu Feb 4 20:01:06 1999 Your execution request failed because you are not permitted to execute rnews on this system. Execution requested was: rnews -- schnapp --- What's wrong? I did uupoll as root, don't understand this. Could someone please tell me which commands to man and/or to issue? Do I need additional software, besides UUCP, exim (kind of sendmail), procmail and pine? Another mail was sent to root: -- schnipp --- A UUCP execution request failed: rnews The request was made by downtown!news The following files have been saved: /var/spool/uucp/.Failed/downtown/X./X.downtowdcc58 /var/spool/uucp/.Failed/downtown/D./D.downtowdcc58 -- schnapp --- So the good thing is: the news are saved, but how do I get them back? Which command do I need to run in order to re-try and deliver the news? Thanks for your help and kind regards Frederick
exim: I get mail but cannot send
Hi all, after trying to configure sendmail (pain in the neck) to work with uucp, I gave up on sendmail and (thanks for the exim-thread) tried exim. Now this really went smooth, I also read some of the docs and had it set up quite nicely. Wow, *this* is really a difference. Haven't set up procmail yet, but tried an uucp-connect (uupoll provider) logged in as root and this time it really worked! sendmail just needed about 2 minutes for each email, before it got trashed, I found those in an error-directory later (ok, so I did configure sendmail incorrectly). Exim delivered the mail in an instance. Logged in under my normal user-account and wow! The email was ready for me in pine. Man, was I glad! Even the German character-set was correct, I could read and write umlaute. I was so proud, you won't believe it (ok, I'm a newbie). Happily responded to the emails and made a cc to two other email-addresses of mine. Haven't got the responses (yet?), it's two hours by now. My responses are located with cryptic names in /var/spool/exim/input, obviously ready to be delivered but don't seem to get transmitted to my uucp provider. What did I do wrong this time? :-( Any help will be appreciated and I apologize already for these dumb questions. Kind regards Frederick
Re: exim and uucp
Hi Carey,
you wrote on: 03 Feb 99 at 23:51 (received 03.02.99)
about : _Re: exim: I get mail but cannot send_
My responses are located with cryptic names in /var/spool/exim/input,
obviously ready to be delivered but don't seem to get transmitted to my
uucp provider.
/var/log/exim/* should have info about why your mail is just sitting
there. See what sort of messages you've got.
Thank you very much for this valuable information. I got through the docs
a bit more and realized, I had been sending the mail to smarthost (instead
of uucp).
Now I pretty much left the /etc/exim.conf on it's defaults and added the
following lines first (before local_delivery):
# TRANSPORTS CONFIGURATION #
# ORDER DOES NOT MATTER#
uucp:
driver = pipe
user = nobody
command = /usr/local/bin/uux -r - \
${substr_-5:$host}!rmail ${local_part}
return_fail_output = true
I have to admit, I don't have the faintest idea, what I wrote here, I just
took this example from the docs, as it stated, that this was a valid uucp-
configuration taken out of an actual running system.
I did not change the directors configuration but added those lines:
# ROUTERS CONFIGURATION #
#Specifies how remote addresses are handled #
# ORDER DOES MATTER #
uucphost:
driver = domainlist
transport = uucp
route_list = * downtown
uucp:
driver = domainlist
transport = uucp
route_list = * downtown
(I left the following lines as they were)
smarthost:
driver = domainlist
transport = remote_smtp
route_list = * downtown bydns_a
end
Now exim really can deliver mails, but the following errors are in the
mainlog:
1999-02-03 22:47:33 107qNu-31-00 Unfrozen by forced delivery
1999-02-03 22:47:33 107qNu-31-00 ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=uucphost
T=uucp: Child process of uucp transport returned 69 from command: /usr/
local/bin/uux
1999-02-03 22:47:33 108A8z-78-00 = R=107qNu-31-00 U=mail
P=local S=1319
1999-02-03 22:47:33 107qNu-31-00 Error message sent to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
1999-02-03 22:47:33 107qNu-31-00 Completed
The same message is generated by exim and emailed to root.
I'm really desperate, I get email, but cannot send it, due to the above
problems :-(((
Can you or anybody enlighten a poor newbie?
Thanks very much and kind regards
Frederick
dpkg-source
Hi all, I was wondering about the following. I login as root, then cd /usr/src then dpkg-source -x /mnt/cdrom/(...)/bla.dsc. I customize the source and/ or compiling-options and issue cd bla and debian/rules binary in order to get a package bla.deb in /usr/src. Then dpkg -i bla.deb and dpkg will replace any already installed binary bla-components. So far, everything is smooth and to my liking (I hope, I did do it correctly, I'm still a newbie at this?) I was wondering, what will happen, when I get another distribution and do e.g. an apt-get dist-upgrade, will it then replace the bla-package with a newer version (if there is a newer version in the new distribution) or will it leave my customized package alone? Could anybody enlighten me? Thanks and kind regards Frederick
Re: Silly question
Hi Daniel, you wrote on: 01 Feb 99 at 04:13 (received 01.02.99) about : _Silly question_ I'm sorry if this is a really silly question, but I was wondering where one goes to get apt-get and the necessary utilities to upgrade a hamm system to slink via ftp? It was already on my distribution CD (the first CD, binary), but it was in folder tools. So you just need to dpkg -i apt-get from that folder. Kind regards Frederick
Re: dpkg-source
Hi Remco, hi Ben, you wrote on: 02 Feb 99 at 09:22 (received 02.02.99) about : _Re: dpkg-source_ It will upgrade the package. Does apt not respect packages that have been held? It does, so that's indeed a way to enforce your own packages. Thanks for pointing that out :-) Thank you both very much for this valuable info, really does help me in planning my installation. Kind regards Frederick
Re: kernel source
Hi Robert, you wrote on: 28 Jan 99 at 15:06 (received 28.01.99) about : _kernel source_ I just installed Debian Linux and can't find the kernel source code anywhere. There is no /usr/src directory on my system. What package do I need to install? Thanks, Enter dselect, press space, then / (search), then kernel-source and choose the package 2.0.34 (if you are running hamm). Then startx, then cd /usr/src/linux (this is a link to the actual 2.0.34) then make xconfig. Be sure to read the HowTo on Kernel-compiling. Kind regards Frederick
Re: netscape
Hi Brian, you wrote on: 28 Jan 99 at 15:10 (received 28.01.99) about : _netscape_ I've run into this before, but can't remember how to solve it. When I try to run netscape (downloaded from netscape's site - v4.5), I get the following error: can't load library 'libXpm.so.4' You can either install some libs from the oldlibs section (don't remember which though) or get the netscape 4.5 from folder unsupported, make sure, the name has glib20 in it. That's the version to support the newer libs in kernel 2.x instead of 1.3 Tried finding libXpm.so.4 using dselect in the frozen dist. No luck. The name of the package is something else (sorry, don't remember). Kind regards Frederick
Re: netscape
Hi Brian, you wrote on: 29 Jan 99 at 10:16 (received 29.01.99) about : _RE: netscape_ The only thing I can find on netscape's ftp site is the linux20_glibc2 version under: ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/4.5/english/unix/unsupported/ This is the version, which will run without additional (old) libs unter Debian Hamm (2.0.34). Kind regardsFrederick
Re: boot messages/logging
Hi tony, you wrote on: 24 Jan 99 at 22:05 (received 25.01.99) about : _boot messages/logging_ I'm at a loss to find the way to get all the boot messages logged to a file. Is there a recommended procedure or configuration file change that I can make? After boot, just type dmesg | less to review all boot-messages. Use less to save them to a file (or just dmesg file) Kind regards Frederick
Re: Re-Partition Ext2?
Hi Bob, you wrote on: 23 Jan 99 at 16:24 (received 24.01.99) about : _Re: Re-Partition Ext2?_ Partition Magic 4.0 will do this. I found that after doing so it was necessary to boot from a floppy and run lilo. Thank you very much for this info, although I was hoping for a non- commercial tool :-) Kind regards Frederick
Re-Partition Ext2?
Hi all, sorry for the probably dumb question: is there any tool to re-partition a HD formatted with ext2 and without loosing data? Kind of a fips (DOS-util) or the commercial tool Partition Magic? I just wanted to create another small linux partition for testing. Thanks and kind regards Frederick
Re: dualboot linux and NT?
Hi Jean, you wrote on: 20 Jan 99 at 13:14 (received 21.01.99) about : _Re: dualboot linux and NT?_ That's exactly the problem, you need to have a FAT16-partition within the first 1024 cylinders of the first harddrive. The so-called C: (speaking in DOS-/Win-terms). This is clearly not true. I have a dual boot configuration on my Dell Inspiron with one IDE harddrive configured as follows: MBR lilo I'm sorry, I did not make myself clear enough: what I meant is, if you have the NT-Bootmanager on the MBR of your hd, it needs the NTLDR, NTDETECT.COM and BOOT.INI on the first Fat16-partition. I have the following configuration (three SCSI-hds, each 2 GB): MBR: NT-Bootmanager sda1 Win 95 (fat 16) 1 GB sda2 Win NT 4.0, SP3 (NTFS) 1 GB sdb1 Linux (ext2) 1.9 GB sbd5 Linux swap 0.1 GB sdc1 Data (fat 16) 2 GB And I boot LILO with the NT-Bootmanager, also works fine. partition-1 Windows-NT, 4.0-service pack 4, NTFS partition-2 FAT32, pagefile.sys, only used for virtual memory How does that work? I was always under the impression, that Fat32 was not supported by NT 4.0. Kind regardsFrederick
Re: debian installation
Hi rod, you wrote on: 21 Jan 99 at 23:15 (received 22.01.99) about : _debian installation_ my system started blinking every half second. It was locked up so I = rebooted. Same thing. Now, I have selected the packages for home = Try the following: install Debian, after reboot only select BASIC. This mode is tested (while the others also gave me many errors). Then install X-Server after that and answer NO to the question do you want X to startup upon boot?. Kind regards Frederick
Thank you!
Hi good fellas, I just wanted to thank everybody who helped me. I now got netscape running just fine, re-compiled the kernel (even successfully) :-) and have a nice and clean system. Kind regards Frederick
Re: dualboot linux and NT?
Hi Tom, you wrote on: 18 Jan 99 at 15:30 (received 19.01.99) about : _Re: dualboot linux and NT?_ WinNT can not boot directly from a slave disk, as far as I know. Well, it *can* boot from any disk and any partition, no matter what. It needs to have it's boot files on the active partition on the master drive. That's exactly the problem, you need to have a FAT16-partition within the first 1024 cylinders of the first harddrive. The so-called C: (speaking in DOS-/Win-terms). Daryl made several mistakes. Win NT needs a (small) FAT16-partition (C:) in order to boot, this partition has to carry the NTLDR.EXE, boot.ini and other hidden files. I triple-boot my machine with Win 95, Win NT and Linux, no problem at all. linux is on the second hard-disk (the first is completely occupied by both Wins). Here's what to do: create a small FAT16-Partition at the beginning of the drive (Partition Magic, e.g.), put NTLDR and other NT-files there (rescue installation). Boot Linux and create a boot-floppy (if you haven't already got one). Boot Linux and enter dd if=/dev/hda1 bs=512 count=1 of=/boot/bootsec.lin this copies the bootblock from your hd (you might need to change hda1 to hda2 since hda1 is your fat16-partition) to /boot/bootsec.lin Create/modifiy /etc/lilo.conf boot=/boot/bootsec.lin root=/dev/hda1 compact install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map vga=normal delay=3 image=/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 label=linux read-only now run lilo -v -v Now copy the bootsector to your first fat16-partition (whereever you mounted it) cp /boot/bootsec.lin /mnt/drivec/bootsec.lin Now rescue the NT-system (with your NT-CD) restore boot-loader, etc. etc. Edit the boot.ini (on fat16) and add the following line c:\bootsec.lin=linux (remember this file has attributes r s h!) You'll have to re-run lilo and copy the bootsec.lin after kernel-changes (another distribution, re-compile, etc.) Kind regards Frederick
Re: xconfig, menuconfig
Hi Ossama, you wrote on: 17 Jan 99 at 20:17 (received 18.01.99) about : _Re: xconfig, menuconfig_ kernel-package and kernel-source are two different things. Sorry, I confused those :-( Since I'm still working on UUCP with Linux, I'm running NT (sorry) right now. Have copied your valuable article on my FAT-partition and will try your tips later (when Linux is up again). Let me/us know if you still have problems. Thank you very much for your patience. I know these are pretty dumb questions, I also try to RTFM first :-) Kind regardsFrederick
Re: Netscape4.5 cannot find libraries
Hi Torsten, you wrote on: 17 Jan 99 at 20:16 (received 17.01.99) about : _Re: Netscape4.5 cannot find libraries_ $ /sbin/ldconfig -p | grep 'libc5.*X' Thank you very much, the problem was the older netscape. I will get the glibc version and try again. Learned a lot from your info though :-) Kind regards Frederick
Re: xconfig, menuconfig
Hi Ossama, you wrote on: 16 Jan 99 at 22:13 (received 17.01.99) about : _Re: xconfig, menuconfig_ There are no such packages. They are Makefile targets. Go into your Linux source directory and do make xconfig or make menuconfig. It does not work, I still get the message no target. I also cannot locate any files with patterns xconfig or menuconfig. I did install the kernel-package. I don't understand, what I'm doing wrong. Kind regards Frederick cc: debian-list
Re: Warning on mounting partitions: automate e2fsck?
Hi Carl, you wrote on: 16 Jan 99 at 22:33 (received 17.01.99) about : _Warning on mounting partitions: automate e2fsck?_ Why can't the same process (init?) that autochecks the root partition, just automatically check the others instead of warning me? You might want to read man fstab. AFAIK you can edit the numeric arguments (e.g. issue a 2 instead of a 1 or even a 0 in order to tell linux, that the file-system does not need checking). I have only vague knowledge of what happens when a Debian system bootstraps, so please make any answers fairly basic. I'm a newbie myself :-) but give it a try anyway :-) Kind regardsFrederick
Re: Netscape4.5 cannot find libraries
Hi Torsten, you wrote on: 16 Jan 99 at 09:28 (received 17.01.99) about : _Re: Netscape4.5 cannot find libraries_ I also have serious trouble with Netscape 4.5 (from ftp.netscape.com, only version available for Linux). I run the kernel 2.0.34 First try installing the xlib6 and xpm4.7 packages from the oldlibs section. Those packages are installed on my machine. If you still got problems, please check if /etc/ld.so.conf contains at least the following lines: /lib /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/lib/libc5-compat /lib/libc5-compat If you still got any problems, please ask us again. My /etc/ld.so.conf looks like this: /lib /usr/lib/tkstep /usr/X11R6/lib/Xaw3d /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/lib/libc5-compat /lib/libc5-compat ldd netscape gives me the following (ran ldconfig several times as root) libXt.so.6 = not found libSM.so.6 = not found libICE.so.6 = not found libXmu.so.6 = not found libXpm.so.4 = not found libXext.so.6 = not found libX11.so.6 = not found libdl.so.1 = /lib/libdl.so.1 (0x4000a000) libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x4000d000) libg++.so.27 = /lib/libg++.so.27 (0x400cb000) libstdc++.so.27 = /lib/libstdc++.so.27 (0x40103000) libm.so.5 = /lib/libm.so.5 (0x4014) libstdc++.so.2.7.2 = /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.7.2 (0x40149000) libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40186000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4019f000) ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40244000) The first missing libs (did not check all of them) are located in /usr/ X11R6/lib. Since I am a linux-newbie, I may have messed with the system in earlier tries to get netscape running. I copied some libs, made soft- links, etc. but to the best of my knowledge, I un-did all this again. My previous attempts caused netscape to find all libraries, but abort on startup with message segmentation fault :-( Shall I de-install and re-install some components (dselect, apt-get)? Kind regards Frederick
xconfig, menuconfig
Hi *.* I'm linux newbie and guess this is kind of a dumb question, but I cannot find menuconfig or xconfig (trying to make the config-files in order to compile my kernel). (Running hamm, 2.0.34) Which package do I need to install? RTFM-answer welcome, but please name the man or howto :-) Kind regardsFrederick
Re: xconfig, menuconfig
Hi Ossama, you wrote on: 16 Jan 99 at 22:13 (received 17.01.99) about : _Re: xconfig, menuconfig_ There are no such packages. They are Makefile targets. Go into your Linux source directory and do make xconfig or make menuconfig. Thank you very much for your information, I will try so later. Kind regardsFrederick
