RE: Debian, ISO's and Jigdo

2004-09-10 Thread Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL
Bump.

Any help on this, or am I asking in the wrong place?

--JATF

-Original Message-
From: Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL 
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 4:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Debian, ISO's and Jigdo


I have set up an internal Debian mirror on my home LAN.  The mirroring
script I run is at the end of this message.  Note that I do exclude
architectures other than the i386.

When I download the sarge .jigdo files from
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/cd/jigdo-area/, and run
jigdo-mirror with the .jigdo-mirror file included below, there are a
multitude of missing files - I'll leave out that list unless someone
needs it to help troubleshoot.

What am I doing wrong, and/or how do I get the jigdo-mirror to work off
the local mirror?

I have been able to do network installations for weeks, but a
out-of-work friend without net access is looking for CD's, so I need to
build the ISO images and burn them.  It seems silly to download .iso
files from the net when I *should* have everything I need on the local
ftp server.

--JATF

Start .jigdo-mirror file-
jigdoDir=/home/samba/noraid/mirrors/jigdo-area
imageDir=/home/samba/noraid/mirrors/iso
tmpDir=/home/samba/noraid/mirrors
debianMirror=file:/home/samba/noraid/mirrors/debian
nonusMirror=file:/home/samba/noraid/mirrors/debian-non-US
Stop .jigdo-mirror file--


Start Mirror Script
#!/bin/bash

DEB=1
DEBNONUS=1
DEBSEC=1

if [ $1 = -d ]; then
echo Updating US Mirror
DEBSEC=0
DEBNONUS=0
elif [ $1 = -n ]; then
echo Updating Non-US Mirror
DEB=0
DEBSEC=0
elif [ $1 = -s ]; then
echo Updating Security Mirror
DEB=0
DEBNONUS=0
elif [ $1 = -a ]; then
echo Updating All Mirrors.
else
echo usage: mirror_update -d|-n|-s|-a [-p]
echo   -d Update Debian Mirror
echo   -n Update Debian-non-US Mirror
echo   -s Update Debian-security Mirror
echo   -a Update All 3 mirrors
echo   -p Pretend - Don't actually copy anything
exit 0
fi


USMIRROR=rsync://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian
USDEST=/home/samba/noraid/mirrors/debian
NONUSMIRROR=rsync://nonus.debian.org/debian-non-US
NONUSDEST=/home/samba/noraid/mirrors/debian-non-US
SECMIRROR=rsync://security.debian.org/debian-security
SECDEST=/home/samba/noraid/mirrors/debian-security

EXCLUDE=\
  --exclude binary-alpha/ --exclude binary-arm/ \
  --exclude binary-m68k/ --exclude binary-powerpc/ --exclude
binary-sparc/ \
  --exclude binary-ia64/ --exclude binary-mips*/ --exclude binary-hppa/
\
  --exclude binary-s390/ \
  --exclude binary-hurd-i386/ \
  --exclude *_alpha.deb --exclude *_arm.deb  \
  --exclude *_m68k.deb --exclude *_powerpc.deb --exclude *_sparc.deb \
  --exclude *_ia64.deb --exclude *_hppa.deb \
  --exclude *_mips.deb --exclude *_mipsel.deb --exclude *_s390.deb \
  --exclude *_hurd-i386.deb \
  --exclude disks-alpha/ --exclude disks-arm/ \
  --exclude disks-ia64/ --exclude disks-m68k/ --exclude disks-mips*/  \
  --exclude disks-powerpc/  --exclude disks-s390/  --exclude
disks-sparc/ \
  --exclude potato --exclude slink
#  --exclude *_sh.deb \
#  --exclude binary-sh/ \
#  --exclude source/ \

#EXCLUDE=

if [ $2 = -p ]; then
EXCLUDE=$EXCLUDE --dry-run
fi

if [ $DEB = 1 ]; then
rsync -vrtlHz --progress --delete-after $EXCLUDE $USMIRROR
$USDEST
fi
if [ $DEBNONUS = 1 ]; then
rsync -vrtlHz --progress --delete-after $EXCLUDE $NONUSMIRROR
$NONUSDEST
fi
if [ $DEBSEC = 1 ]; then
rsync -vrtlHz --progress --delete-after $EXCLUDE $SECMIRROR
$SECDEST
fi

---End Mirror Script-



RE: Debian, ISO's and Jigdo

2004-09-10 Thread Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL
Thank you.

Jigdo did build ISO's even with the files missing, except for disk 1 -
too many files missing.  I'll try your images and see how they run.

--JATF


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From: Jan Kesten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 3:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Debian, ISO's and Jigdo


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Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL wrote:

| What am I doing wrong, and/or how do I get the jigdo-mirror to
| work off the local mirror?

Did you notice, hat the images von cdimage.d.o for sarge are really
outdated? They are older than one month..

If you need more recent you can try my own images from

http://www.dafuer.de/downloads

Note that these are unofficial images that my have problems I don't
know of. If you like to test, please send me a short 'report' how it
worked out.

Cheers,
Jan
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Debian, ISO's and Jigdo

2004-09-08 Thread Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL
I have set up an internal Debian mirror on my home LAN.  The mirroring
script I run is at the end of this message.  Note that I do exclude
architectures other than the i386.

When I download the sarge .jigdo files from
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/cd/jigdo-area/, and run
jigdo-mirror with the .jigdo-mirror file included below, there are a
multitude of missing files - I'll leave out that list unless someone
needs it to help troubleshoot.

What am I doing wrong, and/or how do I get the jigdo-mirror to work off
the local mirror?

I have been able to do network installations for weeks, but a
out-of-work friend without net access is looking for CD's, so I need to
build the ISO images and burn them.  It seems silly to download .iso
files from the net when I *should* have everything I need on the local
ftp server.

--JATF

Start .jigdo-mirror file-
jigdoDir=/home/samba/noraid/mirrors/jigdo-area
imageDir=/home/samba/noraid/mirrors/iso
tmpDir=/home/samba/noraid/mirrors
debianMirror=file:/home/samba/noraid/mirrors/debian
nonusMirror=file:/home/samba/noraid/mirrors/debian-non-US
Stop .jigdo-mirror file--


Start Mirror Script
#!/bin/bash

DEB=1
DEBNONUS=1
DEBSEC=1

if [ $1 = -d ]; then
echo Updating US Mirror
DEBSEC=0
DEBNONUS=0
elif [ $1 = -n ]; then
echo Updating Non-US Mirror
DEB=0
DEBSEC=0
elif [ $1 = -s ]; then
echo Updating Security Mirror
DEB=0
DEBNONUS=0
elif [ $1 = -a ]; then
echo Updating All Mirrors.
else
echo usage: mirror_update -d|-n|-s|-a [-p]
echo   -d Update Debian Mirror
echo   -n Update Debian-non-US Mirror
echo   -s Update Debian-security Mirror
echo   -a Update All 3 mirrors
echo   -p Pretend - Don't actually copy anything
exit 0
fi


USMIRROR=rsync://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian
USDEST=/home/samba/noraid/mirrors/debian
NONUSMIRROR=rsync://nonus.debian.org/debian-non-US
NONUSDEST=/home/samba/noraid/mirrors/debian-non-US
SECMIRROR=rsync://security.debian.org/debian-security
SECDEST=/home/samba/noraid/mirrors/debian-security

EXCLUDE=\
  --exclude binary-alpha/ --exclude binary-arm/ \
  --exclude binary-m68k/ --exclude binary-powerpc/ --exclude
binary-sparc/ \
  --exclude binary-ia64/ --exclude binary-mips*/ --exclude binary-hppa/
\
  --exclude binary-s390/ \
  --exclude binary-hurd-i386/ \
  --exclude *_alpha.deb --exclude *_arm.deb  \
  --exclude *_m68k.deb --exclude *_powerpc.deb --exclude *_sparc.deb \
  --exclude *_ia64.deb --exclude *_hppa.deb \
  --exclude *_mips.deb --exclude *_mipsel.deb --exclude *_s390.deb \
  --exclude *_hurd-i386.deb \
  --exclude disks-alpha/ --exclude disks-arm/ \
  --exclude disks-ia64/ --exclude disks-m68k/ --exclude disks-mips*/  \
  --exclude disks-powerpc/  --exclude disks-s390/  --exclude
disks-sparc/ \
  --exclude potato --exclude slink
#  --exclude *_sh.deb \
#  --exclude binary-sh/ \
#  --exclude source/ \

#EXCLUDE=

if [ $2 = -p ]; then
EXCLUDE=$EXCLUDE --dry-run
fi

if [ $DEB = 1 ]; then
rsync -vrtlHz --progress --delete-after $EXCLUDE $USMIRROR
$USDEST
fi
if [ $DEBNONUS = 1 ]; then
rsync -vrtlHz --progress --delete-after $EXCLUDE $NONUSMIRROR
$NONUSDEST
fi
if [ $DEBSEC = 1 ]; then
rsync -vrtlHz --progress --delete-after $EXCLUDE $SECMIRROR
$SECDEST
fi

---End Mirror Script-



Attempting to create internal Debian mirror - Jigdo fails.

2004-09-08 Thread Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL
I have set up an internal Debian mirror on my home LAN.  The mirroring script I run is 
at the end of this message.  Note that I do exclude architectures other than the i386.

When I download the sarge .jigdo files from 
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/cd/jigdo-area/, and run jigdo-mirror 
with the .jigdo-mirror file included below, there are a multitude of missing files - 
I'll leave out that list unless someone needs it to help troubleshoot.

What am I doing wrong, and/or how do I get the jigdo-mirror to work off the local 
mirror?

I have been able to do network installations for weeks, but a out-of-work friend 
without net access is looking for CD's, so I need to build the ISO images and burn 
them.  It seems silly to download .iso files from the net when I *should* have 
everything I need on the local ftp server.

--JATF

Start .jigdo-mirror file-
jigdoDir=/home/samba/noraid/mirrors/jigdo-area
imageDir=/home/samba/noraid/mirrors/iso
tmpDir=/home/samba/noraid/mirrors
debianMirror=file:/home/samba/noraid/mirrors/debian
nonusMirror=file:/home/samba/noraid/mirrors/debian-non-US
Stop .jigdo-mirror file--


Start Mirror Script
#!/bin/bash

DEB=1
DEBNONUS=1
DEBSEC=1

if [ $1 = -d ]; then
echo Updating US Mirror
DEBSEC=0
DEBNONUS=0
elif [ $1 = -n ]; then
echo Updating Non-US Mirror
DEB=0
DEBSEC=0
elif [ $1 = -s ]; then
echo Updating Security Mirror
DEB=0
DEBNONUS=0
elif [ $1 = -a ]; then
echo Updating All Mirrors.
else
echo usage: mirror_update -d|-n|-s|-a [-p]
echo   -d Update Debian Mirror
echo   -n Update Debian-non-US Mirror
echo   -s Update Debian-security Mirror
echo   -a Update All 3 mirrors
echo   -p Pretend - Don't actually copy anything
exit 0
fi


USMIRROR=rsync://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian
USDEST=/home/samba/noraid/mirrors/debian
NONUSMIRROR=rsync://nonus.debian.org/debian-non-US
NONUSDEST=/home/samba/noraid/mirrors/debian-non-US
SECMIRROR=rsync://security.debian.org/debian-security
SECDEST=/home/samba/noraid/mirrors/debian-security

EXCLUDE=\
  --exclude binary-alpha/ --exclude binary-arm/ \
  --exclude binary-m68k/ --exclude binary-powerpc/ --exclude binary-sparc/ \
  --exclude binary-ia64/ --exclude binary-mips*/ --exclude binary-hppa/ \
  --exclude binary-s390/ \
  --exclude binary-hurd-i386/ \
  --exclude *_alpha.deb --exclude *_arm.deb  \
  --exclude *_m68k.deb --exclude *_powerpc.deb --exclude *_sparc.deb \
  --exclude *_ia64.deb --exclude *_hppa.deb \
  --exclude *_mips.deb --exclude *_mipsel.deb --exclude *_s390.deb \
  --exclude *_hurd-i386.deb \
  --exclude disks-alpha/ --exclude disks-arm/ \
  --exclude disks-ia64/ --exclude disks-m68k/ --exclude disks-mips*/  \
  --exclude disks-powerpc/  --exclude disks-s390/  --exclude disks-sparc/ \
  --exclude potato --exclude slink
#  --exclude *_sh.deb \
#  --exclude binary-sh/ \
#  --exclude source/ \

#EXCLUDE=

if [ $2 = -p ]; then
EXCLUDE=$EXCLUDE --dry-run
fi

if [ $DEB = 1 ]; then
rsync -vrtlHz --progress --delete-after $EXCLUDE $USMIRROR $USDEST
fi
if [ $DEBNONUS = 1 ]; then
rsync -vrtlHz --progress --delete-after $EXCLUDE $NONUSMIRROR $NONUSDEST
fi
if [ $DEBSEC = 1 ]; then
rsync -vrtlHz --progress --delete-after $EXCLUDE $SECMIRROR $SECDEST
fi

---End Mirror Script-



RE: Attempting to create internal Debian mirror - Jigdo fails.

2004-09-08 Thread Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL
This is a dupe of 'Debian, ISO's and Jigdo'.  I sent it out because I thought the 
other didn't go through.

-Original Message-
From: Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL 
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 2:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Attempting to create internal Debian mirror - Jigdo fails.


I have set up an internal Debian mirror on my home LAN.  The mirroring script I run is 
at the end of this message.  Note that I do exclude architectures other than the i386.

When I download the sarge .jigdo files from 
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/cd/jigdo-area/, and run jigdo-mirror 
with the .jigdo-mirror file included below, there are a multitude of missing files - 
I'll leave out that list unless someone needs it to help troubleshoot.

What am I doing wrong, and/or how do I get the jigdo-mirror to work off the local 
mirror?

I have been able to do network installations for weeks, but a out-of-work friend 
without net access is looking for CD's, so I need to build the ISO images and burn 
them.  It seems silly to download .iso files from the net when I *should* have 
everything I need on the local ftp server.

--JATF

Start .jigdo-mirror file-
jigdoDir=/home/samba/noraid/mirrors/jigdo-area
imageDir=/home/samba/noraid/mirrors/iso
tmpDir=/home/samba/noraid/mirrors
debianMirror=file:/home/samba/noraid/mirrors/debian
nonusMirror=file:/home/samba/noraid/mirrors/debian-non-US
Stop .jigdo-mirror file--


Start Mirror Script
#!/bin/bash

DEB=1
DEBNONUS=1
DEBSEC=1

if [ $1 = -d ]; then
echo Updating US Mirror
DEBSEC=0
DEBNONUS=0
elif [ $1 = -n ]; then
echo Updating Non-US Mirror
DEB=0
DEBSEC=0
elif [ $1 = -s ]; then
echo Updating Security Mirror
DEB=0
DEBNONUS=0
elif [ $1 = -a ]; then
echo Updating All Mirrors.
else
echo usage: mirror_update -d|-n|-s|-a [-p]
echo   -d Update Debian Mirror
echo   -n Update Debian-non-US Mirror
echo   -s Update Debian-security Mirror
echo   -a Update All 3 mirrors
echo   -p Pretend - Don't actually copy anything
exit 0
fi


USMIRROR=rsync://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian
USDEST=/home/samba/noraid/mirrors/debian
NONUSMIRROR=rsync://nonus.debian.org/debian-non-US
NONUSDEST=/home/samba/noraid/mirrors/debian-non-US
SECMIRROR=rsync://security.debian.org/debian-security
SECDEST=/home/samba/noraid/mirrors/debian-security

EXCLUDE=\
  --exclude binary-alpha/ --exclude binary-arm/ \
  --exclude binary-m68k/ --exclude binary-powerpc/ --exclude binary-sparc/ \
  --exclude binary-ia64/ --exclude binary-mips*/ --exclude binary-hppa/ \
  --exclude binary-s390/ \
  --exclude binary-hurd-i386/ \
  --exclude *_alpha.deb --exclude *_arm.deb  \
  --exclude *_m68k.deb --exclude *_powerpc.deb --exclude *_sparc.deb \
  --exclude *_ia64.deb --exclude *_hppa.deb \
  --exclude *_mips.deb --exclude *_mipsel.deb --exclude *_s390.deb \
  --exclude *_hurd-i386.deb \
  --exclude disks-alpha/ --exclude disks-arm/ \
  --exclude disks-ia64/ --exclude disks-m68k/ --exclude disks-mips*/  \
  --exclude disks-powerpc/  --exclude disks-s390/  --exclude disks-sparc/ \
  --exclude potato --exclude slink
#  --exclude *_sh.deb \
#  --exclude binary-sh/ \
#  --exclude source/ \

#EXCLUDE=

if [ $2 = -p ]; then
EXCLUDE=$EXCLUDE --dry-run
fi

if [ $DEB = 1 ]; then
rsync -vrtlHz --progress --delete-after $EXCLUDE $USMIRROR $USDEST
fi
if [ $DEBNONUS = 1 ]; then
rsync -vrtlHz --progress --delete-after $EXCLUDE $NONUSMIRROR $NONUSDEST
fi
if [ $DEBSEC = 1 ]; then
rsync -vrtlHz --progress --delete-after $EXCLUDE $SECMIRROR $SECDEST
fi

---End Mirror Script-



RE: KDE Fonts Too Large

2004-07-16 Thread Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL
I had this same issue until I learned how to use defoma (well, the gui
for it, actually) to add fonts to the system.  As it turned out I only
have about 6 fonts, none of which displayed properly by default.  With
defoma I added all of my fonts from my MS partition as well as a bunch
of .deb packages and my display is MUCH nicer.

My questions are:  
1. Is there a way to automate the font recognition for defoma, and/or
can one remove defoma without destroying things so that XFS handles the
fonts natively?  
2. Why would this be a good idea/bad idea?

Joseph Freivald

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Juha
Siltala
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 3:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: KDE Fonts Too Large


On 2004-07-15, * Tong* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:13:03 +0300, Janjs Jangori wrote:
 
 Frist I vi edited the /etc/X11/XF86Config (Kent! am still learning to
use 
 dpkg-configuration tool) so that the 75dpi fonts come b4 the 100dpi
and 
 nothing happened. 

 Erhh, did you restart x?

Also, are you running xfs? If so, the font path is set in 
/etc/X11/fs/config.

-- 
Juha Siltala
http://www.edu.helsinki.fi/activity/people/jsiltala/


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RE: Login Shell/Profile: Stop the Madness

2004-06-17 Thread Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL
Ok, so I'm pretty new to Debian, and I have never created a .deb package
(except for the kernel using the kernel tools), but isn't this the kind
of thing that could be put into a package so that people who want it
could install it?  I mean, if I'm reading this thread right, that if the
correct solution is to alter a few scripts and put some other scripts
into the default-user directory so that when new users are created they
get those files, that should be trivial to put in a .deb, no?

--JATF

-Original Message-
From: Michael Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 7:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Login Shell/Profile: Stop the Madness


Michael wrote:
  
  Now do you have the display manager source every possible file that
  should be sourced for each possible shell? Only source the files
  that should be sourced for the shell that the login manager
  uses? Or do you setup a system where by the users shell is
  determined and the appropriate files sourced?
 
 Ok, I'll play along just for a moment -- let's assume that what you're
 saying is true. Then we are faced with two choices:
 
   A) Choose bash and screw sh, csh, tcsh, or whatever-sh users
   B) Do nothing and continue to screw everybody
 
 If we had a vote I think I would put my paycheck on A. If someone is
 running something other than the default shell they shouldn't have a
 problem hacking their own profile. But they don't need to ...

Of course you can do that it's just that at the moment most the scripts
are sh not bash but it could be done.

 Look, conceptually what needs to be done is simple. The purpose of the
 login option of a shell is to say Hey, I'm logging in, initialize my
 environment. Subsequent shells do not use the login option which is
 to mean Hey, I've already initialized my environment so don't bother
 to do it again. I just want another shell, inherit the environment
 from the parent.

I agree, conceptually it's simple, but what I'm not sure of is the
implementation.

 So all we have to do is detect when a user is logging in and exec
 their default shell with the login option. Debian does that when you
 ssh in or login on the console but not when you login with X.

 snip!
  
 Now I'm on a RH 7.3 system right now and I've never had this profile
 issue on RH systems so if I look at their scripts I see:
 
 #!/bin/bash
 
  lots of stuff ...
 
 # otherwise, take default action
 if [ -x $HOME/.xsession ]; then
 exec -l $SHELL -c $HOME/.xsession
 
 There are a lot of other lines that look like this but this one
 illustrates quite clearly how RH handles this. I'm not terribly
 familiar with exec options of bash but I'm willing to bet it has
 something to do with the login option or has the equivalent effect.

But in this case you exec'ing the users own .xsession so sourcing
.profile isn't a problem, since the user should do it in the .xsession
(either manually or by making it a login session) so you just do

exec ~/.xsession

and let the user deal with it!

The problem occurs when the user doesn't have a .xsession (or doesn't
want to use it!) then the system has to exec the correct shell as a
login to run the window manager that they wanted.

exec -l $SHELL -c window-manager-bin

And this means that the user is logged in twice (once for the shell
and once for X) and is running a shell for no reason other that to
source a file.

Personally I would like to see a ~/.X_profile that is source by the dm
(so currently it would have to be valid sh script, but this would
change if the shell of the dm changed). People who use the same shell as
the dm could symlink it to ~/.profile if they wanted. We then have a
system where by a X login sources a file that the user can use to setup
paths (or whatever) without having to worry about there ~/.profile being
incompatible with the dm's shell or have to exec an extra shell.

-- 
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(At the Mensa society meeting)

Lisa:   Now next week is our state of the city address. Has
everyone finished their proposals.

CBG:Well first of all I've a plan to eliminate obesity in
women.

They Saved Lisa's Brain (Episode AABF18)



RE: ccing

2004-06-14 Thread Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL
Some of us have no choice in our mail client.  The network nazis have
disabled everything but MSAPI on the mail servers, so I end up running
Outlook under VMWare just to get my e-mail.

Oh, and big surprise, Outlook gets the reply *Wrong!*

--JATF

-Original Message-
From: s. keeling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 2:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ccing


Incoming from Cheryl Homiak:
 I agree that it's irritating to get duplicate messages. However, it's 
 often not that the person deliberately did a cc. At least in Pine, I
often 

The usual reply to this is submit a bug report.  If it came from a
list, the reply should go to the list.  If you want to reply to the
author, that should take manual intervention.  In the meantime, switch
to something that does it right, mutt for one.

 certainly if everybody checks emails before sending this can be
avoided.

That's like expecting people to check lists.debian.org before posting
a question.  It won't happen.


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RE: Backup to CD-RW

2004-06-04 Thread Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL
Is there anything similar that will work with DVD+RWs?

--JATF

-Original Message-
From: Aaron Bingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 4:37 AM
To: jack kinnon
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Backup to CD-RW


Hi Jack,

apt-get install cdbackup

This will work with any archiver, so you can use GNU Tar's incremental
backup features to get what you want.  I've only used it a few times,
but I haven't encountered any real problems yet.  One minor gotcha: be
sure to insert the first CD *before* starting cdbackup.

On Tue, Jun 01, 2004 at 06:56:39PM -0700, jack kinnon wrote:
 Hi folks,
  
 It's time for me to work out a good backup system. I am looking for
 a reliable software which is able to do incremental backup to a
 CD-RW. A search thro' the net throws up a lot but which one is best
 for Debian?
  
 Would appreciate some suggestions
-- 

Aaron Bingham
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RE: VMware-4.5 workstation under Debian/testing?

2004-06-02 Thread Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL
I'm running 4.5.1-7568.

I've run under sid and sarge, with no problems whatsoever.  The modules
compile fine under 2.4.25-1-386, 2.4.26-1-686 and 2.6.3-1-686 - easy
enough that I switch back-and-forth (re-running vmware-config.pl) when
I'm testing the different kernels.  I've used USB, CD, Bridged,
Host-only, NAT-over-wireless, built-in-samba, stand-alone (apt-get)
samba, SCSI and IDE virtual disks, snapshots, persistent and
non-persistent disks, you name it.  I've hosted MS-DOS-6.2.2, Debian,
RedHat 7.3/8.0/ES-3r2, NT4 WS/Servers, Win2K, Win98, WinME and Gentoo
under it from time-to-time.  I've even run Cygwin under Win2k to run
X-Apps under 2K under Debian.

VMWare is one rock-solid piece of software.

And yes, I keep an XP partition for my games. sigh

--JATF

-Original Message-
From: Micha Feigin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 7:25 AM
To: Debian User
Subject: Re: VMware-4.5 workstation under Debian/testing?


On Tue, Jun 01, 2004 at 12:10:23PM +1000, glenn wrote:
 Hi Ishwar
 I run vmware workstation on sid (upto date latest, you know the one
that
 unistalls samba and kde and messes with cups) with 2.6.6, and have
done
 on 2.6.5 for ages, and server out windows advanced server to upto 3
 clients with it. There were some hassles getting it going initially,
but
 that was a previous build. The current build has no trouble compling
the
 vmnet modules etc. You'll need to have installed the kernel headers
 package for the kernel you are using.
 
 The only 2 cavets are my one attempt to use a usb device in windows
 failed, and oneday after an apt-get dist-upgrade, my cd and dvd
 devices

I am having the same problem and it seems to be mostly dependent on
hotplug, although I am not completely sure.

Having hotplut disabled and just usbcore and usb-uhci loaded and
/proc/bus/usb mounted gives it a chance.

Their docs say that the usb device can't be claimed by kernel drivers
so that is probably whats causing the problem.

 suddenly appeared as removable devices, and won't let me use cd's as
it
 offers to format them. I haven't put any effort into fixing these
issues
 and may yet turn out to be trivial.
 
 Best of luck
 Glenn
 
 On Mon, 2004-05-31 at 10:22, Ishwar Rattan wrote:
  I am interested in running vmware-4.5 work-station under
debian/testing
  (2.6.5). The software (not purchased yet) has a rpm package
  and a tar.gz that contains files for RH/Mandralke/SuSe. Is any one
  running it suceesfully under debian?
  
  -ishwar
  
  
 
 
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Anyone recommend a multi-serial card?

2004-06-02 Thread Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL
Anyone have great things to say about any particular Multi-Serial Card?  I need to 
purchase a card with at least 16, preferably 32 RS-232 ports on a single PCI card 
under Linux.

--JATF



nForce Board lockups - Was:2.6 and nvidia

2004-05-14 Thread Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL
Daniel,

I have an nForce board and it seems a bit unstable.  It was REALLY bad
at first, but I turned in the memory for new and now it only locks up
occasionally, but I have not found any tips on making it work with
Debian and the 2.6 kernel.  Where did you find your pointers, and how
well is it working now?

--JATF

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Asarnow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 3:39 AM
To: Debian Users
Subject: Re: 2.6 and nvidia


Installing the current nvidia gfx drivers in 2.6 is
actually real simple.  You can download their
self-installer from nvidia.com's driver section and
run it with the sh.  It Just Worked for me (well, it
worked after I found some good workarounds for all
the lockups my nForce mobo caused).  You may have to
tell XF86-Config to use the 'nvidia' module, though.
I do not believe there are any specifics in the
kernel config to...specify.  You'll probably want to
turn on VESA 16-bit support, though.
 
-Daniel


 --- hanasaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  My nvidia is due in the mail soon.  The nvidia
  packages from apt-cache 
  search seem to depend on the 2.4 kernels.  Could
 you
  walk me through the 
  steps to get get the nvidia drivers
 built/installed
  on kernel 2.6.x?  I 
  have built the kernel with make-kpkg.  Also, Any
  specific options to 
  choose/not choose in the kernel .config?
  
  thanks
  
  Were there any package conflicts?
  
  I had an ati card and after using alien to convert
  their .rpm to a .deb 
  it installed fine but created mesa depend
 conflicts.
   Wondering if the 
  same happens on nvidia?
  
  Kevin Mark wrote:
   On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 12:46:38AM -0400, Emma
  Jane Hogbin wrote:
   
  As a warning ... I was getting ready to upgrade
 my
  kernel to 2.6. I
  downloaded the new nvidia package. I was
 following
  instructions from
  /usr/share/doc without really thinking and did a
  make on the modules
  package. Within seconds I got dumped out of X
 and
  have been unable to
  start it ever since. The error messages I'm
  getting have to do with the
  module versions not matching the kernel
 versions.
  
  I have no idea how to get X back under my old
  kernel, and the new one
  isn't ready to be used yet (basically nothing's
  working yet).
  
  So as a warningdo NOT mess around with the
  latest nvidia packages 
  until you know for sure that the rest of the 2.6
  kernel is going to work. :(
  
  emma
  
  -- 
  Emma Jane Hogbin
   
   Hi Emma,
   are you referring to 'make'ing X or the kernel?
   couldnt you just reinstall what was overriten?
   or remove the X packages and install them?
   -Kev
  
  
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RE: Debian as a router.

2004-05-07 Thread Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL
The part that you should pay particular attention to is setting up your
firewall.  For a ga-jillion examples of IPTables scripts, many of which
are ready-to-run, check out:

http://www.linuxguruz.com/iptables/

You can do many other cool things on your linux router.  I have Squid
running as a transparent proxy and a local DNS cache, which combine to
make my cable service F-A-S-T, even with 12 computers and 6 users behind
my firewall. :)

--JATF

-Original Message-
From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of H. S.
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 4:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Debian as a router.


Mal Beaton wrote:
 
 
 I have a good howto for this if you are interested. I can post it here
 However Mine is for adsl I have never used cable modem I assume it can
 be set up in bridged mode as well


I am interested. If can post the link ...

thanks,
-HS



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RE: sarge?

2004-05-03 Thread Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL
Okay, so I'm jumping into the middle here, but I just came from 18
months with Gentoo, and I for one, am VERY happy with the support that
Woody gets, even though it's years old, and that I can be confident that
each stable distro will have excellent bug-fixing for many moons.  The
main problem I had with Gentoo was that it was SO fast that it was
impossible to build two identical system, even IF you were building from
their packages.

Believe me.  Apt ROCKS in comparison.  It would take me DAYS to install
on Gentoo and an install would be almost as big as with RedHat, which is
what I was trying to get away from in the first place.  With Debian, I
can make nice neat desktop boxes with Sid or Sarge and routers/servers
with Woody.  The servers are patched to the hilt for security and
stability, and *who freakin cares* if my internal mirror servers aren't
running KDE 3.2 - my laptop is - oh and WITH nivida-proprietary, WITH
VMWare Workstation, WITH QT Commercial edition, WITH the 2.6 Kernel.

I wrote off Debian for SO long because I didn't take the time to check
out the different distros.  It's a crying shame.  There are some tweaks
that I would like to make, and, now that I'm spend 1.5 hours on an
install instead of 1.5 weeks, maybe I'll have time to join the /dev
group.

First, I'll make sure I have my feet thoroughly wet, though. :)

--JATF

-Original Message-
From: Katipo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 6:43 PM
To: Monique Y. Mudama
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: sarge?


Monique Y. Mudama wrote:

On 2004-04-30, Kenneth Macdoald Karlsen penned:
  

snip
 Im out of here.  To qoute the dolphins: Good luck
and thanks for all the fish...




snip
 I do think it's important for these discussions to
take place.  There are movements afoot to ensure that this debate can
occur without delaying sarge's release, and I think this is a
reasonable
approach.

  

Don't worry.
Let him swim in the sewerage again, for a while.
He'll be back.
Regards,

David.


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Help installing a JVM

2004-04-15 Thread Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL
Okay,

How do I get a JVM to install?  I have only found dummy packages, and when I 
downloaded and ran Sun's SDK, it didn't seem to install properly - or at least the 
Java apps don't see it.

Thanks in advance.

--JATF



RE: Debian has turned unusable.

2004-04-13 Thread Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL
Hello,

I'm new to the Debian community, but I have used RedHat for about 8
years, and Gentoo for almost two.  I must say, Debian is quite good
compared to these other distro's.  Perhaps RH is more stable than
Sid/Sarge, but there is NO way to install a base system from a RH CD.
The smallest install I was ever able to get was over 450MB and included
LOTS of extras that I really didn't want.

I see lots of people advocating Sid(unstable) as a desktop, but
shouldn't people who are not developers/maintainers gravitate to Sarge?
Isn't testing/debugging Sarge supposed to be a priority?  Also, since
packages automatically drop into sarge from Sid after 10 days (unless
there is an unresolved issue), you are likely to get all the great new
apps that you want, but without someone dropping in a new, buggy
version by mistake.

Also, this would make more bug reports get filed against Sarge, which
would help to progress it to the next stable.

I realise that I have written these in a somewhat argumentative form,
but read them as questions.  As I said, I'm new here (  3 months ), but
I have read up as much as I can find on the releases and the procedures
for advancement.

I have used Sarge for about 6 installs now (including upgrade from Woody
and the new installer), and I'm very pleased with it's performance and
package features.  I used Woody for my file server (which now has a
local Debian Mirror!), mostly because I don't care about the desktop on
it, and I like to have the security patches, but I have Sarge running on
two laptops, three desktops and a DB server.  Also, I'm running Kernel
2.6.3 with the proprietary Nvidia driver and VMware Workstation on my
work laptop.  I note this because these things were exceptionally
problematic on other distros, but were cheezy-eazy on Debian.

--JATF


-Original Message-
From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Monique Y. Mudama
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 7:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Debian has turned unusable.


On 2004-04-12, Adam Aube penned:
 Monique Y. Mudama wrote:

 Well, more unstable than the stable distribution takes a lot longer
 to type and wouldn't fit on a CD volume label =P

 What about current, then?


This would encourage people to use the unstable distribution, which by
definition isn't considered ready for prime time.  The truth is that
there are tradeoffs; a one-word name just isn't going to capture those
tradeoffs.  If anything, the right term for unstable might be head or
tip -- or would that be experimental?

But what do I know?  I'm just a random user.  It does seem to me that
we've had the name game a few times, and every time a dev has strongly
indicated that we should leave well enough alone.

-- 
monique


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RE: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-07 Thread Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL
I have been running almost exclusively NVidia for quite some time.  The only board I 
have ever had any problems with the proprietary NVIDIA drivers on a are the ASUS 
nforce boards *which specifically state* not to use the NVidia drivers.  There is some 
kind of incompatability with the AGP port, and to be honest I haven't given it a lot 
of effort beyond BIOS tweaking since the nv driver was fine for that application... 
speaking of which,

How is the ATI xfree driver any better than the NV xfree driver?  They both seem to 
work about the same for me.  I like the NVIDIA proprietary driver on my laptops 
because I get advanced features like TwinView, which I use *all the time* without ANY 
problems what-so-ever.  Also, I have run the NVIDIA proprietary drivers on many 
different systems, RH 
7.0,7.3,8.0,9.0/Gentoo-non-specific-always-updating-in-a-nasty-bleeding-edge-kindof-way/and
 Debian Sarge,Sid.  I've used kernel versions 2.4.18/22/23/25 and 2.6.1/3, all without 
ANY problems, save the ASUS board above.  I use VMWare every single day running 
several different OSs and on most of the above types from time to time, including in 
full screen mode, and the NVIDIA board/driver handles it all quite easily.

I'm not trying to start a flame war on how Companies should choose to or not to 
support open source projects, but since I use their product a LOT and I have had 
dramatically different experience from what is being portrayed I figured I should give 
the counter point.  In fairness, I have not even attempted to try and get an ATI board 
to provide the advanced services that I get out of the NVIDIA drivers.  That is most 
likely because I'm a lazy bastard and if someone like NVIDIA has excellent 
documentation and their product works - even when they say it might not because they 
haven't tested it in that environment - and I would have to hunt for docs on another 
product and hope they are up-to-date, I probably won't bother.

Cheers.

--JATF

-Original Message-
From: Paul Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 1:39 PM
To: Frédéric Dreier
Cc: Steve Freitas; Gokul Poduval; Debian Users
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver


Frédéric Dreier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Paul Johnson wrote:

Steve Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

How is ATI support better than Nvidia ? As far as I know, both provide
binary drivers, and nvidia was at this game much earlier than ati.

 I had nothing but bad experience with Nvidia's binary drivers. They
 kept locking up my machine completely. The open-source alternative,
 XFree86's nv driver, is completely pathetic. The XFree86 Radeon
 driver, on the other hand, has performed so beautifully for me that
 I never felt the need to try their binary driver. YMMV.

Steve Freitas is now my definition for typical case for an nVidia user
these days.

 Actually I have more 'diffcult' experience with ATI than nvidia... the
 last time I checked, framebuffer still hangs when I switch from X to
 consoles with my ATI 9700.

Your point?  Even Linus tells people not to use framebuffer for
anything unless they have to.

-- 
Paul Johnson
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