(Solved) Re: Live CD/DVD's Debian Wheezy

2014-05-17 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless

Thanks!  That did it!

I did sudo su at a terminal prompt and achieved the same result.

Sincerely,
(Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless
fairl...@ieee.org


On Sat, 17 May 2014, David wrote:


On 17 May 2014 11:28, Gayle Lee Fairless fairl...@hiwaay.net wrote:

I downloaded some .iso's for Debian Wheezy live CD/DVD's
and we could not find the superuser access since we were looking at them at
night class.

This is for a Linux system administration class.  Please copy the
Professor because he is not on the list.


The Debian Wheezy Live environment is built with root login disabled,
and with sudo configured for the live user.

So any command can be run as root by prepending sudo, and a
root password is not required. Here is an actual tested example that
should work the same for you:

$ ls -al /root
ls: cannot open directory /root: Permission denied
$ sudo ls -al /root
total 2
drwx--  2 root root  46 Apr 26 06:34 .
drwxr-xr-x 29 root root 220 May 17 19:30 ..
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 570 Jan 31  2010 .bashrc
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 140 Nov 19  2007 .profile




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Live CD/DVD's Debian Wheezy

2014-05-16 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless

I downloaded some .iso's for Debian Wheezy live CD/DVD's
and we could not find the superuser access since we were looking at them 
at night class.


	This is for a Linux system administration class.  Please copy the 
Professor because he is not on the list.


Thanks!

Sincerely,
(Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless
fairl...@ieee.org


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Mr. Mad Duck: about etch-stable fluxbox?

2007-06-11 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
I looked on the maintainer webpage which seems to indicate that an IBM 
Thinkpad 390 Pentium MMX (233 MHZ) needs to have a patch installed for 
fluxbox to work.  Since an MMX is somewhat slow, I was hoping to consider 
fluxbox or something like it instead of the heavy-duty GNOME or KDE.  

BTW, I do have a copy of Martin Kraft's book just in case I missed 
something in it.  Please tell me.

Thanks for your advice.  I enjoy using Debian from time to time on my 
other systems.

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Re: Mr. Mad Duck: about etch-stable fluxbox?

2007-06-11 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless

Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon, 11 Jun 2007 asked:

 Who is Martin Kraft?

 Doug.

Bob McGowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] has also replied in a previous email.

Mr. Krafft also wrote the following book:

(Sorry about the mispelling!)   :-[

Martin F. Krafft, THE DEBIAN SYSTEM, Munich, Germany: Open Source Press 
GmbH (C) 2005


US Publisher: San Francisco, CA: No Starch Press, Inc.

Here is the signature of one of his emails:


Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list!

.''`.   martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: :'  :  proud Debian developer, author, administrator, and user
`. `'`   http://people.debian.org/~madduck - http://debiansystem.info
 `-  Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing systems

micro$oft windows psychic edition:
we will tell you where you are going tomorrow.

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Re: Install which Linux? (or avoiding dirty birds)

2007-06-09 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless

   Although I would have replied sooner; there was a death in the family.

   Hope you remember or kept the thread!


Gayle Lee Fairless([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:

 Wayne Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]  replied:


 It's worth a try, but the bad 770 locks up when it get to the pcmcia
 section on bootup.   :-(   Hope you have better luck!
 
 
--snip--

 
 Not really.  As I don't run Winbloz, I googled for Wireless adapters
 that ran on Linux, then if the drivers were running on Debian, then
 the driver info itself.  I found that the Madwifi software worked on
 many many cards and seems to have the most versatile software, I went
 and picked a few from their Compatibility list
 http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatability.  They, as of now, do not


http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility.  



 support any USB adapters.  I have NetGear CardBus and PCI cards and a
 DLink PCI card running with MadWifi.  


I will definitely look into MadWifi!


  Check out the UserDocs on the madwifi wiki.  Very informative!


There is also a Newbie section.

 
 I have had some success running USB adapters on the 770's.  By far the
 easiest, so far, was a real cheap ( $18) I found on Ebay.  It is an
 Ashton Digital WRUB-2011i with a Prism2 chipset.  It uses the
 linux-wlan-ng drivers, supported by Debian of course.

--snip--



Then I hope the US Robotics card will work, or I get lucky with the
 Belkin adapter!

You may be in luck after all.

 A google for US Robotics USR5410 Linux came up with a review that
 wasn't too good, but the second one you might like. The headline is
 US Robotics goes Linux and your 5410 in included in the writeup.
 http://www.ameinfo.com/32533.html


I found it and the reference to Linuxant and their product, DriverLoader:

(quote off www.Linuxant.com)

DriverLoader is a revolutionary compatibility-wrapper allowing standard 
Windows NDIS (Network Driver Interface Specification) drivers shipped by 
hardware vendors to be used as-is on Linux x86 systems  


(end of quote)

It appears that the program supports both the Belkin USB wireless device 
and
the US Robotics USR5410 PCMIA card.  I have to hook it up and find out 
under

both Linux and Windows XP Pro.

 Both wmaker and fluxbox are nice WM's but wmaker has a lot more
 configuration options that I just did not need.  All the eye candy
 that I used on wmaker, I use on fluxbox. So I just went minimalistic
 and kept fluxbox and purged the others.  I have used icewm, fvwm,
 Xfce, twm , bbox, and a few more that my old brain has forgotten.  The
 beauty of Debian is that you can install all that meet your fancy and
 switch between then, real time, and then purge/remove those you don't
 like.  Heck, you could bring up a different one depending on the day
 of the week, if you want.  Ain't Unix/Linux the cats meow!   :-)


 There is, IMHO, only one mail client.  It is mutt.  A command line MUA
 that does it all.  There is only one editor I use and that is Vim, a
 Vi lookalike.  Have been using them on Linux since 1993 and they both
 just keep getting better.


I learned enough vi to naviage through a text file and make simple 
changes.  
Although I have mutt on my Debian sarge box, I do not understand it as well
as I do vi.  The messages to root go through mutt.  I also have seen and 
used

a version of emacs on the Amiga.

Anyway, I learned some vi because it is prevalent on a lot of Unix/Linux 
systems
just as edlin was prevalent on DOS (pre-Windows 95) systems.  It helped 
to be
able to edit a script file or a batch file without the need to learn 
somebody's

favorite word processor of the day.

I was able to install a baic Debian GNU/Linux etch system on the 
Thinkpad with the
official network installation CDROM.  Since I was not connected to the 
Internet, I
need to know how to get network setup working and start installing 
packages.  I looked
at Martin Kraft's Debian maintainer notes on fluxbox.  Did you have to 
install a patch

to get yours working?

Regards

Wayne


Basic, n.:
   A programming language.  Related to certain social diseases in
that those who have it will not admit it in polite company.


   This sounds almost like a Wirth opinion of BASIC (Beginners' Allpurpose
Symbolic Interface Code [WAG)).  He thought that anyone learning it 
became brain-damaged.

I saw this about the time that the Pascal language was the latest rage.



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Re: Install which Linux? (or avoiding dirty birds)

2007-05-26 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless



On 05/25/07 23:27, Gayle Lee Fairless wrote:


Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED] Fri, 25



May 2007 12:15:17 -0500







On 05/25/07 11:32, Gayle Lee Fairless wrote (portions deleted):







  have installed Windows and booted live Linux CD's. Ubuntu Dapper Drake







  stalled with a KDE desk error.







RJ What kind of error?







It halted with the beige screen of death with a small box saying KDE



Desk Error if I remember correctly. At the time I was just seeing which



CDROM would be successful while waiting for the replacement drive.




RJ Argh, I mis-read desk for disk**.



RJ  Never mind.





   Well now, I was hurrying because I was just experimenting 
with the bad harddrive in place while waiting for delivery of the 
replacement harddrive.  Still, this IS Kubuntu, and we are now 
considering something lighter even than xfce.




[snip]






Two vital questions are:







1. How much RAM does the laptop have? Probably not much.







128 MB (Since it is probably not much, I did set aside a 2 GB partition



for a swap partition.)




RJ Figured.  You'll need something lighter-weight than even Xfce 

RJ (which is based on getting-heavy GTK2 and leaks memory).  There 

RJ have recently been a couple of threads regarding people's 


RJ preferences in light-weight WMs.



   If you recall those threads before I can get to them 
with a search engine, I would appreciate it.  Since my wife 
has decreed a visit to the relatives this weekend, there is 
no great rush.




RJ Also, I prefer swap files**, since they are more flexible.




2. How much experience do you have with Linux?







I have Debian Sarge running on a Gateway 500 Pentium III 500 MHZ which



also dual boots via LILO into Windows 98SE.







I have Debian Etch which is sharing the box with Windows XP Pro dual



booting under GRUB.




RJ A little behind the times, no?




That box has a Pentium 4 Prescott at 3.2 GHZ.




RJ Ah, a space heater!




I have enough experience to get good and lost!




RJ Don't we all...



   BUT, we have fun!!!   :-D




RJ Xubuntu might be good choice to install, even though you might then



RJ have to install a lighter-weight window manager.







As old as this equipment is, a light weight window manager such as xfce



on top of Debian or Xubuntu may indeed be the way to go.




RJ  Hardware detection will be the tricky part, I think.  *buntu is

RJ  still better at it than straight Debian.





That is probably why Knoppix 3.7 was able to boot.  And if you noted 
my questions to Wayne Topa about wireless devices, I was hoping 
to find out which one is more easily detected, if at all!




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Re: Install which Linux? (or avoiding dirty birds)

2007-05-26 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless

Hi,



On Fri, 2007-05-25 at 11:32 -0500, Gayle Lee Fairless wrote:


  I just installed Windows XP Professional on an IBM ThinkPad 390



with a Pentium MMX (233 MHZ) and a 60 GB harddrive.




SS Since it is a ThinkPad, you should have a look at thinkwiki. [1] A 
SS good reference site for hardware problems and other howtos.




   I think the reference got lost in the transmission.  
Is thinkwiki the website name?






SS For starters you should do a minimal installation and build it further.



   That should be about right.



SS And I don't think xfce4 will be fast enough, done that befor on a 
SS 233mhz system with 64mb RAM. It was a bit _slow_.  ;) 




Yes, the Windows installation was only just a little more exciting 
than watching paint dry!




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Re: Install which Linux? (or avoiding dirty birds)

2007-05-26 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless


Wayne Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]  replied:

The pcmcia slots _did_ work for a week or two.  Got it used from Ebay
so I probably was luckey they worked for that long


Mine is a discard from my son.  So mine may be totally bad.  :-(

Every time I try a card, the cursor on the Windows screen freezes.  
However, Linux might work better?


 
 
I have a U.S.Robotics 100 Mbps 802.11g Wireless Turbo PC Card --USR5410-- 
with an installation CDROM (probably intended mainly for Windows).
I have a Belkin F5D7050 USB Wireless Adapter - 54 Mbps, 802.11g, USB 2.0 
on order from Tigerdirect.

Do you know which one would work? Or if both work, which one is better?
 
Not really.  As I don't run Winbloz, I googled for Wireless adapters

that ran on Linux, then if the drivers were running on Debian, then
the driver info itself.  I found that the Madwifi software worked on
many many cards and seems to have the most versitle software, I went
and picked a few from their compatability list
http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatability.  They, as of now, do not
support any USB adapters.  I have NetGear CardBus and PCI cards and a
DLink PCI card running with MadWifi.  


   I will definitely look into MadWifi!


 
I have had some success running USB adapters on the 770's.  By far the

easiest, so far, was a real cheap ( $18) I found on Ebay.  It is an
Ashton Digital WRUB-2011i with a Prism2 chipset.  It uses the
linux-wlan-ng drivers, supported by Debian of course.  Another is also
working, but not with Kismet (darn it), is quite unique.  It is a USB
dongle or minicard mounted on the mast of a 17 element, +24dbi gain
yagi antenna. It comes with a 15 foot cable terminated with a USB
connector.  The driver is zd2111 which is on Debian, of course. This
is a nice setup as there is no lossy feedline to contend with.  I have
used it with USB Repeater cables 60 feet from the laptop and it works
great.  Two other USB adapters are somewhat working but not able to
connect to an AP.  The drivers are still being developed.  So in
short, other then the above 2 USB adapters, PCMCIA/CardBus seem to be
the way to go the the 770's.


   Then I hope the US Robotics card will work, or I get lucky with the 
Belkin adapter!



 
   snip
 
Right.  The newest netinstall iso would be preferable.


Not a problem for me!  I just have to do it!

 
 
   snip
 
I am a command line person.  I don't need a lot of glitz in windows.

I used wmaker for a while but have settled on fluxbox.  Lightweight
and it doesn't get in my way.  I run some KDE and Gnome Apps but find
it easier to get things running without X apps.  The screens on the
770 will only do 1024x768 so the less clutter the better. JMHO.


   I would definitely be interested in your description of wmaker and 
fluxbox especially if they are Debian packages!



 
Hope this helps you get Connected. 
 
   snip
 
The quoting

style of this (your) message was, well, different to say the least.


   Ah, it was hand-cobbled.  I composed it in a well-known Word 
Processor (We won't say which one!) and then pasted it into 
Thunderbird.  I know how to eliminate the HTML and rtf stuff that some 
newbies inadvertently put into a message (simple choices under the 
Thunderbird Tools menu).  I put the initials of the responder in the 
lines to allow readers to know who was 'speaking.'  And I tried to 
eliminate redundant wording to cut down on the storage required for the 
thread.  Oh well, here's your chance to recommend your favorite client 
along with fluxbox!




 



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Install which Linux? (or avoiding dirty birds)

2007-05-25 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
I just installed Windows XP Professional on an IBM ThinkPad 390
with a Pentium MMX (233 MHZ) and a 60 GB harddrive.  (I have partioned it
in anticipation of also installing Linux.)  Knoppix 3.7 boots on the
machine.  (Would I be able to migrate to Debian or just stay with Knoppix
if I go that way?)  I also have woody and have seen the installation
advice on the installation of woody on a ThinkPad (Yep, I used Google).  
I have booted the woody installation CDROM on the machine; however, it
could not find the original harddrive (I was waiting for the replacement
harddrive from Drive Solutions).  Anyway I would prefer to install
something more modern.  The one USB 1.1 port works well.  I'm not sure
about the PCMIA slots.  Obviously the CDROM drive works, or I could not
have installed Windows and booted live Linux CD's.  Ubuntu Dapper Drake
stalled with a KDE desk error.

I've ordered a Belkin wireless USB adapter (g protocol).  I have
not tested the internal modem yet but would want a faster connection.  I 
have a home network connected by ethernet and a Belkin wireless g router.  
The network itself connects to the Internet through a Xoom DSL modem.
I have done network install of Debian etch to a desktop over my network.  
Are there any special techniques or extra information that I have missed?
I can download iso images to my desktop and create CDROM's.


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Re: Install which Linux? (or avoiding dirty birds)

2007-05-25 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri, 25 
May 2007 12:15:17 -0500


On 05/25/07 11:32, Gayle Lee Fairless wrote (portions deleted):


  have installed Windows and booted live Linux CD's. Ubuntu Dapper Drake



  stalled with a KDE desk error.


RJ What kind of error?

It halted with the beige screen of death with a small box saying KDE 
Desk Error if I remember correctly. At the time I was just seeing which 
CDROM would be successful while waiting for the replacement drive.


RJ Have you correctly installed the replacement drive?

When I got the drive, I had to take it out of the caddy and flip it. 
Since Windows installed correctly without a problem, the physical drive 
installation is fine.



  I've ordered a Belkin wireless USB adapter (g protocol). I have



  not tested the internal modem yet but would want a faster connection. I


  have a home network connected by ethernet and a Belkin wireless g 

router.


  The network itself connects to the Internet through a Xoom DSL modem.


  I have done network install of Debian etch to a desktop over my 

network.

  Are there any special techniques or extra information that I have 

missed?


  I can download iso images to my desktop and create CDROM's.


Two vital questions are:

1. How much RAM does the laptop have? Probably not much.

128 MB (Since it is probably not much, I did set aside a 2 GB partition 
for a swap partition.)


2. How much experience do you have with Linux?

I have Debian Sarge running on a Gateway 500 Pentium III 500 MHZ which 
also dual boots via LILO into Windows 98SE.


I have Debian Etch which is sharing the box with Windows XP Pro dual 
booting under GRUB.


That box has a Pentium 4 Prescott at 3.2 GHZ.

I have enough experience to get good and lost!

RJ Xubuntu might be good choice to install, even though you might then

RJ have to install a lighter-weight window manager.

As old as this equipment is, a light weight window manager such as xfce 
on top of Debian or Xubuntu may indeed be the way to go.


- --

Ron Johnson, Jr.

Jefferson LA USA


Johannes Wiedersich [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Fri, 25 May 2007 19:56:18 +0200

JW Debian woody 3.0 was released in 2002. It became obsolete by the release

JW of 'sarge'. Now we have debian etch 4.0. Try to install etch.

JW Your hardware probably is too old (ie. not powerful enough) to run KDE

JW or gnome. Start out with a minimal install and add xfce4 or another

JW light-weight window manager.

(duplicate paragraph deleted)

JW I don't know if the installer for etch supports your modem. You might be

JW better off to either download the first CD with another computer or buy

JW a set of CDs from a vendor.

JW HTH, Johannes


Wayne Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri, 
25 May 2007 18:


Gayle Lee Fairless([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:


  I just installed Windows XP Professional on an IBM ThinkPad 390



  with a Pentium MMX (233 MHZ) and a 60 GB harddrive. (I have partioned it



  in anticipation of also installing Linux.) Knoppix 3.7 boots on the



  machine. (Would I be able to migrate to Debian or just stay with Knoppix



  if I go that way?)


WT I have Debian Testing running on 2 Thinkpad 770's one 60Gb HD and one

WT with a 10 Gb HD. The 233 Mhz 770 is running as an Access point, with

WT a NeatGear WG511U PCMCIA card, serving up the net to wireless and

WT wired Lan. If you are up for a good distro, Debian is the way to go

WT IMHO. You could always use the Knoppix Live CD to get a handle on

WT Linux. My 770's will not run any Knoppix but the 3.7 you tried. None

WT of the (k)ubuntu CD's I tried have worked. The Debian netinstall iso

WT was the only 2.6 kernel that I have not had a problem with on the

WT 770's. :-)


  (portion deleted) Anyway I would prefer to install



  something more modern. The one USB 1.1 port works well. I'm not sure



  about the PCMIA slots. Obviously the CDROM drive works, or I could not



  have installed Windows and booted live Linux CD's …. (portion deleted)


WT The 1.1 USB slot on the 200Mhz 770 has worked with 2 different USB

WT Wireless dongles. The pcmcia slots on that one are NG. I also found

WT a Belkin USB- Ethernet dongle that works also.

NG = No Good?

Are you saying that yours happened to be No Good, or, in general, are 
these PCMIA slots so old as to be useless altogether?


(same duplicate paragraph deleted)

WT From the above I would suggest you take the jump to Lenny/Testing on the

WT 390. I have not found anything that doesn't work, yet, on the 200Mhz

WT box and it only has a 8.8Gb partition and its using only 29% of that. I

WT loaded up a bunch of drivers on it to test all the USB stuff. You may

WT have enough room for a Knoppix partition as well. A 3 dist boot job.

WT Good luck!

WT Wayne

I have a U.S.Robotics 100 Mbps 802.11g Wireless Turbo PC Card —USR5410-- 
with an installation CDROM (probably intended mainly for Windows).


I have a Belkin F5D7050 USB

Re: upgrade of etch from beta2 net install to current level

2007-01-20 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless

see bottom for update:


one thing at a time...

 

I can mount my Windows XP partition which also won't boot so I can 
recover data.  Grub seems to work fine.  I'm just not proficient in 
it yet. 
  


we can fix that. what partition is xp on? mine is on hdb1 or in grub
speak (hd1,0) so I have in my menu.lst

title MS Windows XP
root (hd1,0)
savedefault
makeactive
chainloader +1

and that worked fine for me until i killed windows.
 

However, I did get aptitude to upgrade to its latest version 0.4.4 
that Joey Hess mentioned in a previous post.  I'm getting there but 
can still use helpful comments. 
  


sometimes for big upgrades you have to run it multiple times to get it
through all the way. what exactly have you run so far? and did it run
to completion?
A



My system has exhibited weird behavior.  It now boots into Windows.  I 
can get to the Linux partition with the rescue mode of the original 
network installation CDROM for etch with kernel 2.6.15.


Also, the boot priority suddenly changed to the harddrive.  I had to 
change the boot priority in the BIOS to boot from CDROM.


I had also looked at the system with the installation CDROM's for 
Windows XP Professional.  I'm not aware that I told it to change 
anything; however, it may have 'volunteered quietly.'


Also, the ASUS CPU Parameter Recall (ASUS CPR), a feature of their AI 
motherboards, may have activated.


Oh well, I'm going to back up my Windows data and then be ready to 
repair the Debian GNU/Linux etch installation still on /dev/hda6.


I'm swearing off eggnog (except at Mother's) and grub-install to avoid 
ruining the MBR.


What can we do with the rescue mode of the installation beta2 CDROM?
   I got an external harddrive to back up my data.  The latest etch 
network install file (debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso) was downloaded 
and created.  I booted off it and had it to erase the contents of 
/dev/hda6 when the basic system install aborted.  Fortunately I had no 
data worth keeping, just a few game scores.  It was necessary to use 
adduser as root to get an ordinary user account.  The installer also 
reinstalled grub correctly and updated it correctly when the system 
downloaded updates.  The update also gave me the 2.6.18 kernel in 
addition to the 2.6.17 kernel on the installation CDROM.  (I got the smp 
kernel I wanted to make use of the Pentium 4 Prescott hyperthreading.)  
The desktop is GNOME.  The network install CDROM seems to set that up by 
default.  I may get KDE when it seems safe.


   So the worse problem was solved by 'cutting the Gordian knot' with a 
reinstallation.


   My thanks to Sackville and others that responded!




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Re: upgrade of etch from beta2 net install to current level

2006-12-21 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
  I have a dual-booting box with an ASUS P4P800e Deluxe motherboard 
(socket 478) with a Radeon ATI 9550 graphics card.  Etch using grub 
was installed this past spring 2006 with a 2.6.12 kernel from the 
beta2 network installation CDROM.


   Since I now have ADSL (the motherboard has built-in IEEE 1394 WAN), 
I tried to upgrade etch with aptitude update and aptitude upgrade.  It 
attempted to remove my only running kernel.  I declined that option.  
It has hosed my display after reboot.  I scripted the upgrade and 
believe that I can retrieve the text file if that is needed.


I was also foolhardy enough to attempt linux-image-2.6.18-3-686, but 
it also wanted to remove 2.6.12 which is my only kernel.  Once I get 
Windows XP Professional configured correctly, I suppose I could 
download a current iso image and reinstall or just use Kubuntu.  
Mainly I want to know if I can use aptitude to finish the upgrade 
properly and then I would like to know the way to upgrade from 2.6.12 
to 2.6.18 so that I can use a smp kernel with the Pentium 4 Prescott.


   Thanks for any help on the Debian recommended way to proceed. 



I tried Sackville's suggestion to mark the 2.6.12, but aptitude had 
already purged dependent packages and was dead set on removing it.  
Fortunately or unfortunately, it seems that aptitude (0.4.1, I think) 
was intent on downloading the whole mirror or so it seemed.  It 
downloaded and installed about ten of the *86 kernels of version 
2.6.18.  I have to boot into a recovery kernel and enter root password 
to get into maintenance mode.  The normal login won't show a password 
prompt to let me get in.  Also, the graphics system is not displaying.  
I can mount my Windows XP partition which also won't boot so I can 
recover data.  Grub seems to work fine.  I'm just not proficient in it 
yet.  However, I did get aptitude to upgrade to its latest version 0.4.4 
that Joey Hess mentioned in a previous post.  I'm getting there but can 
still use helpful comments.  I had missed the obvious auto/manual 
install toggle in aptitude.  This time I will use it on the 2.6.18 
kernels (normal and recovery).  I also have the vserver and k7 kernels.  
I guess I can purge or eliminate some of those once I get the system 
back into shape.



   Anyway, further suggestions and guidance are certainly appreciated.  
It's nearly 4 AM for me.  Tomorrow is going to be an exquisite 
pleasure!%-}




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Re: upgrade of etch from beta2 net install to current level

2006-12-21 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless


On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 03:50:55AM -0600, Gayle Lee Fairless wrote:
 

  I have a dual-booting box with an ASUS P4P800e Deluxe motherboard 
(socket 478) with a Radeon ATI 9550 graphics card.  Etch using grub 
was installed this past spring 2006 with a 2.6.12 kernel from the 
beta2 network installation CDROM.


   Since I now have ADSL (the motherboard has built-in IEEE 1394 WAN), 
I tried to upgrade etch with aptitude update and aptitude upgrade.  It 
attempted to remove my only running kernel.  I declined that option.  
It has hosed my display after reboot.  I scripted the upgrade and 
believe that I can retrieve the text file if that is needed.


I was also foolhardy enough to attempt linux-image-2.6.18-3-686, but 
it also wanted to remove 2.6.12 which is my only kernel.  Once I get 
Windows XP Professional configured correctly, I suppose I could 
download a current iso image and reinstall or just use Kubuntu.  
Mainly I want to know if I can use aptitude to finish the upgrade 
properly and then I would like to know the way to upgrade from 2.6.12 
to 2.6.18 so that I can use a smp kernel with the Pentium 4 Prescott.


   Thanks for any help on the Debian recommended way to proceed. 
 




I tried Sackville's suggestion to mark the 2.6.12, but aptitude had 
already purged dependent packages and was dead set on removing it.  
Fortunately or unfortunately, it seems that aptitude (0.4.1, I think) 
was intent on downloading the whole mirror or so it seemed.  It 
downloaded and installed about ten of the *86 kernels of version 
2.6.18.  I have to boot into a recovery kernel and enter root password 
to get into maintenance mode. 
   



can you issue `init 2` from the maintenance mode? what does it do?
 



  I don't know.  I shall try it this weekend and report back.





The normal login won't show a password 
 


prompt to let me get in.
   



what does it do then? 
 



It skips the password prompt and goes immediately to the login prompt.  
Every 5th time it tells me that I've tried 5 times.




 

 Also, the graphics system is not displaying.  
   



one thing at a time...
 



The repeated upgrades might fix that, too.  The basic system is running 
fine in spite of having the running 2.6.12 'shot out' from under me!


As I said, I have been choosing the 2.6.18  ...  686 recovery mode 
kernel since that would appear to match my system.  I don't know that I 
need the vserver and xen flavors.  Do I?  (It might be interesting to 
keep them for later, perhaps.)


 

I can mount my Windows XP partition which also won't boot so I can 
recover data.  Grub seems to work fine.  I'm just not proficient in it 
yet. 
   



we can fix that. what partition is xp on? mine is on hdb1 or in grub
speak (hd1,0) so I have in my menu.lst

title MS Windows XP
root (hd1,0)
savedefault
makeactive
chainloader +1

and that worked fine for me until i killed windows. 
 



/dev/hda1 is Windows XP Professional.   /dev/hda6 is the Debian partition.

I was able to use cfdisk to reveal the partition table.  I am going to 
set /dev/hda1 to ntfs (because that is what it is supposed to be).  I 
suspect that it still won't boot.  Before I do that, I shall save off 
the data files to my Jaz drive and to my ordinary account in the Linux 
partition.  Then I would have the data files in two locations.  
Everything else can be re-installed, if necessary.  (That'll take 2 or 3 
pots of coffee!)


I think I did a grub-install into hd0,1 and trashed the Windows 
partition.  Fortunately, the partition is mountable from Linux and so is 
my Jaz drive.  I suspect that I'll have to retrieve the data files, do a 
Quick Format on /dev/hda1 with the Windows installation CDROM's and 
re-install.



 

However, I did get aptitude to upgrade to its latest version 0.4.4 
that Joey Hess mentioned in a previous post.  I'm getting there but can 
still use helpful comments. 
   



sometimes for big upgrades you have to run it multiple times to get it
through all the way. what exactly have you run so far? and did it run
to completion? 
 



   I suspected that I would have to update and upgrade several times.  
However, I think I'm in a loop, or I'm just seeing various packages use 
the same common packages such as python2.3.  Before I let aptitude 
remove the 2.6.12 kernel, it would only show a red highlight with BB for 
the Broken Broken flags or purple highlight with Bd for the Broken and 
delete flags.  It had already killed the initrd-tools package on which 
the 2.6.12 kernel package depended.






A
 



  I shall try the init 2 command from the prompt in maintenance 
mode this weekend.  Should I do it from the root prompt (#) or the user 
prompt ($)?


  I did try startx from the root prompt.  No joy.

  Thank you for your comments.  I appreciate the insight because I 
sometimes get lost in the details!




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upgrade of etch from beta2 net install to current level

2006-12-18 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
   I have a dual-booting box with an ASUS P4P800e Deluxe motherboard 
(socket 478) with a Radeon ATI 9550 graphics card.  Etch using grub was 
installed this past spring 2006 with a 2.6.12 kernel from the beta2 
network installation CDROM.


   Since I now have ADSL (the motherboard has built-in IEEE 1394 WAN), 
I tried to upgrade etch with aptitude update and aptitude upgrade.  It 
attempted to remove my only running kernel.  I declined that option.  It 
has hosed my display after reboot.  I scripted the upgrade and believe 
that I can retrieve the text file if that is needed.


I was also foolhardy enough to attempt linux-image-2.6.18-3-686, but it 
also wanted to remove 2.6.12 which is my only kernel.  Once I get 
Windows XP Professional configured correctly, I suppose I could download 
a current iso image and reinstall or just use Kubuntu.  Mainly I want to 
know if I can use aptitude to finish the upgrade properly and then I 
would like to know the way to upgrade from 2.6.12 to 2.6.18 so that I 
can use a smp kernel with the Pentium 4 Prescott.


   Thanks for any help on the Debian recommended way to proceed.




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Where is the Email file?

2006-11-07 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
I am running the Linux version of Netscape 7.2 on Debian GNU/Linux 
sarge.  When my message box hit 100,000, the messages disappeared.  Before 
they disappeared, only one message would appear in the window.  I tried to 
delete some old messages at the beginning of the index thinking that would 
restore the proper indexing.

Where do I find the missing messages?  It appears that Netscape 
'took over' the Mozilla stuff way back when I first installed Netscape 
7.2.

I looked in lost+found.  That was empty.  I looked in 
/usr/local/netscape but couldn't find anything resembling a message file.  
The README file that I found seemed to indicate that I should look in my 
own home  directory.  I found .mozilla and .netscape and .netscape6 
directories.  I also noted the mbox file that mutt appears to use.

Thanks for any clues.



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Re: package chkrootkit

2006-08-26 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless



Gayle Lee Fairless wrote:

I got the following message from the chkrootkit package.  I'm quite 
new at this and don't know what to do.



/etc/cron.daily/chkrootkit:
/usr/bin/strings: Warning: '/' is not an ordinary file
INFECTED (PORTS:  600)

Now that I've had more time to use Google (Dear Googlemaster, I'm using 
Google to search, not google!),

I found a number of suggestive articles at

http://bluequartz.org/ml/archive/coba-e/3600/3689.html
http://bluequartz.org/ml/archive/coba-e/3600/3688.html
http://bluequartz.org/ml/archive/coba-e/3600/3687.html
http://bluequartz.org/ml/archive/coba-e/3600/3686.html


This will tell you if the cupsd has been modified or not from the rpm install.
check the man page for rpm for all the details.

Also, unless you are printing from your web server (which I think
would be quite odd), you could un-install cups all together.

Same goes fro the rpc.statd.  Unless you are running nfs, you can
disable and un-install this program as well.



This is some information about my system:


Gcomm:/home/gayle/docs/wrk/wonk# lsof -i:600
Gcomm:/home/gayle/docs/wrk/wonk# netstat -naptu | grep :6
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:631 0.0.0.0:*   
LISTEN 7568/cupsd
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:631 
0.0.0.0:*  7568/cupsd

Gcomm:/home/gayle/docs/wrk/wonk# exit
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/docs/wrk/wonk$ dpkg -l | grep cups
ii  cupsomatic-ppd 20050430-1 linuxprinting.org printer support - 
transiti

ii  cupsys 1.1.23-10sarge Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - server
ii  cupsys-bsd 1.1.23-10sarge Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - 
BSD comman
ii  cupsys-client  1.1.23-10sarge Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - 
client pro

ii  cupsys-driver- 4.2.7-10   Gimp-Print printer drivers for CUPS
ii  cupsys-driver- 4.2.7-10   Gimp-Print printer drivers for CUPS
rc  kdelibs3-cups  2.2.2-13.woody KDE print system (CUPS support)
ii  libcupsimage2  1.1.23-10sarge Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - 
image libs
ii  libcupsys2 1.1.23-10sarge Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - 
dummy libs
ii  libcupsys2-dev 1.1.23-10sarge Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - 
developmen

ii  libcupsys2-gnu 1.1.23-10sarge Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - libs
ii  libgnomecups1. 0.1.14-1   GNOME library for CUPS interaction
ii  libqtcups2 2.0-4  Qt interface library for CUPS
ii  qtcups 2.0-4  Qt front-end for CUPS.


   The article mentions rpm, but we Debian people use packages.  I 
guess I need to test the integrity of some packages or just disable 
stuff.  However, I hate to do that unless I know I won't crash my system.


   Hints and tips are appreciated!

   Btw, this is a sarge system running kernel 2.6.12 with ide=nodma.


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package chkrootkit

2006-08-25 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
I got the following message from the chkrootkit package.  I'm quite new 
at this and don't know what to do.



/etc/cron.daily/chkrootkit:
/usr/bin/strings: Warning: '/' is not an ordinary file
INFECTED (PORTS:  600)

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Re: etch network install iso images with latest kernel version 2.6.x

2006-05-14 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless


On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 17:18 -0500, Gayle Lee Fairless wrote:

	At the beginning of the year there was a 150 MB file on Debian.org 
to create a network installation CDROM for etch.  I can't find that 
anymore although I did find the multiple iso images.


	I was interested in the etch network CDROM because it contained 
one of the latest kernels at the time, 2.6.12.  Perhaps an update would 
have an even later version?


	A hint at getting thru the maze would be helpful.  BTW, has a 
 



Greg Folkert replied on Fri, 12 May 2006 00:26:37 -0400:


http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/

daily-builds
weekly-builds

Or even etch_di_beta2

Just follow down. I wouldn't use the sid_di



I managed to find the etch 2 beta net installation iso file and created 
a CDROM which would have the 2.6.15 kernel.  Would this 'update' my new box if 
I install over the first beta?  Since I don't have any data on the new box that 
I need to keep. (I'm doing my email, etc. on this old box, Gcomm.), I thought 
that this would be a quick and dirty way to upgrade the kernel without 
bothering with how to go from a mkinitrd kernel to one using either yaird or 
intraramfs(sp?) tools or whatever magic is currently being used.

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etch network install iso images with latest kernel version 2.6.x

2006-05-11 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
At the beginning of the year there was a 150 MB file on Debian.org 
to create a network installation CDROM for etch.  I can't find that 
anymore although I did find the multiple iso images.

I was interested in the etch network CDROM because it contained 
one of the latest kernels at the time, 2.6.12.  Perhaps an update would 
have an even later version?

A hint at getting thru the maze would be helpful.  BTW, has a 
complete KDE version migrated to etch?

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Subject: Re: scanner hp psc1402

2006-03-25 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless




Ernst-Magne Vindal wrote:


On Sat, March 25, 2006 13:19, steef said:
 


hello folks,

samebody out there who can tell me how to get the scanner of a hp 
psc1402

working?

(tried out sane, xsane and the like already: without success and 
googling

was of no help. printer etc. works excellent with hplip)


I have sane, xsane working with my HP psc 1210xi but have the following 
packages:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -l | grep hp
ii  foomatic-db-hp 1.5-20050420-1 linuxprinting.org printer support - 
database
ii  hp-ppd 0.5HP Postscript Printer Definition (PPD) 
files
ii  hp2xx  3.4.4-2A HPGL converter into some vector- and 
raste

ii  hp48cc 1.3-3.1C-like compiler which produces HP48 RPN
ii  hpijs  2.1.2+0.9.2-2  HP Linux Printing and Imaging - gs IJS 
drive
ii  hplip  0.9.2-2HP Linux Printing and Imaging System 
(hplip)

ii  hplip-data 0.9.2-2HP Linux Printing and Imaging - data files
rc  hpoj   0.91-4 HP OfficeJet Linux driver (hpoj)
ii  hpscanpbm  0.3a-11HP ScanJet scanning utility
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -l | grep sane
ii  libsane1.0.15-9   API library for scanners
ii  libsane-extras 1.0.15.9   API library for scanners -- extra backends
ii  sane-utils 1.0.15-9   API library for scanners -- utilities
ii  xsane  0.97-3 GTK+-based X11 frontend for SANE 
(Scanner Ac
ii  xsane-common   0.97-3 GTK+-based X11 frontend for SANE 
(Scanner Ac


   Perhaps you didn't get all the needed packages?  I think the hpijs 
package was more useful to me.  YMMV.




regards,

steef
--





Hi, not sure about psc1402, but for my psc2175 I use vuescan, very nice
and many options for scanning and output format.
  


hi,

got the last package of vuescan from a hamrick-site (.tgz). (thanks!!) 
put it in my home_file and *untarred* it. it should work for the 1400 
hp series ( i controlled that), but on my machine (sarge, 2.6.8-2-386 
standard kernel) it says :there is no scan-device on this machine


i am confused.

anybody knows how this can happen?


No, I was following the advice in Hill, Harris, and Vyas,  Debian 
GNU/Linux 3.1 Bible, (Indianapolis, Indiana), (c) 2005, pp. 236-238.


I don't know if my later kernel is a factor or not.




thanks,

steef




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Re: Dual boot comoputer

2006-03-05 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless

On xx, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Quoting cody chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 11:04 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi to all,
I had a dual boot computer, Debian and Windows XP. The motherboard 
in the
computer failed, the motherboard was replaced( I wasn't present when 
the mb

was replaced) since then I can not acces debian.



what exactly is meant that you cannot access debian? is grub/lilo still
available?



On , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


No, lilo is not available, the computer boots into windows. I can see the
partitions by using knoppix and partition magic (one hard drive with two
partitions)



Quoting cody chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


are you able to boot into your windows xp? at what point are
you not able to boot debian?



On , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yes, I can boot into windows. The menu option to choose windows or 
debian is

gone. How can I restore the options to choose windows or debian?

thanks again

Fernando 






From:
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:
Sun, 5 Mar 2006 22:54:53 +0200




On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 04:56:59 -0800 (PST)
Willie Wonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 


Andrei Popescu wrote:
   


 On Sat,  4 Mar 2006 00:33:39 -0700
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I see you have knoppix. Boot with it. Find out what your / partition
 


is. I will assume it is /dev/hda2. Open a root console and type these
commands:
   

 
 umount /dev/hda2

 mount -o rw /dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2
 mount -o bind /dev /mnt/hda2/dev
 chroot /mnt/hda2
 mount /proc
 grub-install
 exit
 reboot
 
 This should do the trick  ;) 
 
 Andrei

 P.S. I think some steps can be ommitted, but it won't hurt if you do
 

them  :) 


Above is pretty nice - however I'm notsure how some of those command
lines help ad do whatever they do -- but just wanted to say
   



Actually that sequence is needed with lilo. And if you do the grub-install in 
the abreviated form it will install the grub present on knoppix and not the one 
on the system. It should work fine in most cases, but you never know ...
 



Fairless:

   After you do the chroot, use the absolute pathname of lilo which 
should be /sbin/lilo


You want to use the lilo on your system to install the MBR.


But more important, I forgot grub-install needs the install device, so it 
should be

grub-install /dev/hda

This will put it on the MBR of the hdd.

Andrei
-- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well 
enough. (Albert Einstein)




Fairless:

   I also have a dual boot computer.  It was necessary to get into root 
from Knoppix.  Once I write-enabled the drive, I used the chroot command 
and then the full pathname of /sbin/lilo to install the MBR.


   If you have trouble with the MBR being changed, you should know how 
to redo the MBR from Windows for another try.  Since I have Windows 
98SE, I can't help you with Windows XP.


   HTH's  :-)

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Re: kde status in Etch

2006-01-26 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
On  Wed, 25 Jan 2006 21:46:59 Ryan Nowakowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 08:58:47PM -0500, H.S. wrote:
 H.S. wrote:
  I apologize if this is a vague query. I have been patiently waiting 
for
  more than a couple of months now (I believe) to update KDE in Etch.
  However, apt-get is still wanting to uninstall quite a bit of 
packages,
  almost whole of KDE. Dselect also wants to uninstall quite a few KDE
  packages. What is the status of this whole KDE update stuff in Etch? 
It
  appears that kdelibs4 and k3b are some sort of 'culprits'? Can 
somebody
  shed some light on this whole issue?

 I just did a full upgrade 3 days ago and kde 3.5 works fine.

Back in the first part of January I used the beta network 
installation CDROM to start etch on my new box.  I ended up with the GNOME 
desktop and gdm.  I used aptitude install kde to get what I could of KDE 
but evidently aptitude is holding some packages because they're not yet in 
testing.

Like H. S., I also posted a general query but didn't get any 
replies.  In February I'll try to get to another DSL connection and see if 
any more packages come down.  I used a Debian mirror in Georgia, USA.



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Re: Debian-User in Digest form?

2006-01-25 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
From: Joseph Smidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Is there any way to get the debian-user mailing list in digest form?


Yes, your message appeared in  debian-user-digest Digest V2006 #195.  Go 
to Debian.org and look at the web subscription area.

Read the instructions at

http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/

You can place your subscription at

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X-system X.org Ctrl-Alt-Func key terminal switching

2006-01-18 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
   One of the things I liked about woody and sarge was the 
Ctrl-Alt-Func keys that could get me to a text prompt.


   When I used the the etch beta installation CDROM on a new box, X.org 
(and kernel 2.6.12) got installed.  The Ctrl-Alt-Backspace works just 
fine!  But the Ctrl-Alt-Func Keys don't get me to a text terminal.  I 
looked in a book by Aron Hsiao entitled XFREE86 for Linux in hopes of 
finding a configuration file that would enable them.  I also hunted 
through the system and succeeded in finding how to invoke openoffice but 
couldn't find the Ctrl-Alt-Func Key stuff.


   Thanks for any clues or Easter Eggs!  And happy hunting to y'all, too!

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Re: Resuming interrupted etch beta Installation over Internet

2006-01-14 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless


On 1/12/06, Gayle Lee Fairless [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I wish to thank the two individuals who answered my previous
question about the time needed to install Debian etch onto an ASUS
P4P800E
deluxe motherboard with a 250 GB Seagate drive.




On 12/15/2005 Adam James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Installation method is another factor. If I were you I'd download the
100Mb netinst CD image for Etch [1].

If you're anything like me, you'll spend more time configuring the
system than installing it!

 


[1] Available from: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer



On 12/16/2005 Dexter [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I gess it should take less than hour for standard desktop instalation.
Testing version is bether if you install desktop station. Stable is good
for server.



On 1/12/2006 Brian Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It sounds like you at least have the base system installed since you 
mentioned you rebooted the machine. In order to continue on with the 
installation of the selected packages, simply bring the system back up 
and log in with the credentials you set up for the root user and type 
base-config without the quotes and hit enter, that will rerun the 
configure script where you can select the packages again to download.


Regards,
Brian


   The system came back up into aptitude where I added a few of the 
recommends and completed the download.  The base system does indeed have 
the 2.6.12 kernel that I wanted.  Later I hope to pull the smp kernel 
for the hyperthreaded Pentium 4 Prescott.  I have indeed spent more time 
changing the configuration here and there such as changing 
/etc/papersize from a4 to letter, downloading one of the CUPS files, and 
getting the resolution to something readable.  I also learned how to get 
gdm to let me shutdown the system cleanly so that fsck doesn't have to 
clean up at boot and reboot.  Ctrl-Alt-Backspace is handy for making the 
X-system give me a decent view of gdm for login and shutdown.  However, 
I cannot use Ctrl-Alt-function key  [F1 -- F6] to get into the text 
terminals.  How do I restore these keys?  I also tried to download KDE, 
but it doesn't appear to be available.  Is that because the KDE packages 
for etch are not quite complete?  I noticed that a number of packages 
were being held back.


   I hope to 'borrow' the DSL at my club but here at the house I have 
dialup.  I could 'rob' an external modem for the serial port from one of 
my other computers if  I have to.  Nonetheless, I also have an external 
USB modem.  Is there a way to use eth1 for either of the two possible 
modems?  (I'm saving eth0 for the occasional DSL.)


   Thanks for all the new information and the reminders!

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Re: Easy question for new user regarding sources.list

2006-01-14 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless



Andrew Donnellan wrote:


Please post this to -user. (For the record, I support the -testing
name change proposal.)

Andrew

On 1/15/06, resonant evil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


Hi all..  I just installed Debian from a TESTING net install image I
downloaded, and just have 1 or 2 easy questions that I can hopefully get
answered and save in my inbox so I never have to ask again :)

1st question:  I seem to be missing alot of packages that I can't get
through aptitude.  From memory, I remember there is a key step in adding
some additional lines to my /etc/apt/sources.list .  Also, I want to use
current-version software if that is possible..  My /etc/apt/sources.list is
as follows:

---

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot i386
Binary-1 (20060114)]/ etch main


deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot i386
Binary-1 (20060114)]/ etch main
deb
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/debian/
etch main
deb-src
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/debian/
etch main

deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main

---

I thought I remembered having many more lines than that, but am sorry that
I have forgotten what they are..  I tried googling around 'debian etch
sources.list' and things like that, but nothing that I could find that
explained the process :(   The reason I think I am missing key packages is
because basic things like 'ncurses' or 'ncurses-devel' for me to even do a
'make menuconfig' for my kernel are missing and can't be obtained through
aptitude :-(

And I suppose the second question is, this version I am using is ETCH,
which is one version behind SID right? 


Fairless replies:

   Unstable is always SID because he is the boy in Toy Story that 
breaks all the toys.



Is SID too unstable for me to use?
   



Fairless replies:

   That depends on whether broken or incomplete packages bother you.  
If you like testing for bugs and getting them fixed, then SID may be 
right for you.  Stable, presently sarge, is for those people who want 
stability for production machines like servers.  Most people go for 
testing which is currently etch since the packages are usually working 
especially as a release date approaches.  Right now since sarge only 
went stable this past June 2005, etch or testing is still somewhat raw.



I'd really like to try things like the new Gnome or the newest versions of
KDE, and programs like gaim beta 2.0+ which require the newest versions of
GTK and such..

Sorry for the newbie questions but I'm just a new user still trying to
learn the ropes :(

Thanks in advance all, and any help would be greatly appreciated :-)

-Ryan

   




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Fairless replies:

Dear 'resonant evil:'

   Here is a portion of the the sources.list that I use:


deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib 
non-free
deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main 
contrib non-free

deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib
deb-src ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib
#deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main
#deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian testing main

deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main
deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main

deb http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian sarge main
deb-src http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian sarge main

#deb http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian woody main
#deb-src http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian woody main


deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main

   You'll probably want to replace stable with either testing or etch 
or even perhaps unstable for your purposes.


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Resuming interrupted etch beta Installation over Internet

2006-01-12 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
I wish to thank the two individuals who answered my previous
question about the time needed to install Debian etch onto an ASUS P4P800E
deluxe motherboard with a 250 GB Seagate drive.

Assembling the new system at the hardware Special Interest Group 
(SIG) took little time since the teacher is quite experienced.  We 
partitioned the Seagate into 3 main areas with a swap partition for Linux 
as a fourth partition: future Windows XP, swap, Linux ext2, and common 
data area FAT32.  The system also has a floppy drive, CD-RW (used as a 
CDROM booter), and ATI Radeon 9550 graphics card.  The keyboard and mouse 
are PS/2.  The microprocessor is a Pentium 4 Prescott with hyperthreading 
at 3.2 GHZ.

The installation proceeded quite well until we ran out of time and 
had to abort the downloading of the packages from a local mirror in 
Georgia.

How do I resume the download?  I may be able to use eth0 which 
looks at the motherboard's onboard ethernet capabilities, or I may have to 
setup eth1 to a serial port or USB modem to continue the download for 
several nights over my dialup connection (Ugh!).  How do I get a list of 
the packages if a friend is willing to download the packages for me and 
cut/press/burn them to a CDROM?  The list of packages would be the ones 
that the installation procedure has 'decided' to download based on our 
answers.

I am pleased with the way the installation started up.  The basic
system got installed.  Then the installer kicked out the network
installation CDROM and had us to reboot into the newly installed system
which now has hernel 2.6.12 since we chose the standard install command
provided on the installation CDROM burned from the 150 MB iso for Debian
etch.  eth0 will be the name for the GiaLan ethernet built into the
motherboard.  eth1 is free, I guess.  (As an aside, I noted that shpchp
got installed correctly on this system (redetch) whereas it didn't on
another box.  I googled for this and found that shpchp didn't install
elsewhere but haven't a clue what this does or means, if anything.)

Thanks for any basic guidelines, insights, etc.  I have read the 
installation manual online and looked over the network CDROM.  It has a 
few reference hURL's that need fixing.  Online you just erase the last 
part of the path, and it works!  I also read the errata.  Fortunately the 
extra size is not an issue for this particular installation.  I have some 
experience with Debian GNU/Linux woody upgraded to sarge on another box.

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installation time for a Debian distribution

2005-12-15 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
With a speed of between 1.0 and 1.5 mbs on DSL, how long would it take to
install a Debian distribution onto a computer with a 3.2GHZ Pentium 4
Prescott (800 FSB), and ASUS P4P800e Deluxe motherboard?

I would have a 250 GB Seagate hard drive.  I was thinking of either sarge 
or etch, especially etch since I understand that the beta installer would 
have the 2.6.12 kernel.

Thank you for your speculation!

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Re: update kernel

2005-10-20 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, SuperrrLeha wrote:

 How i can update kernel?
 

Please post your request on the Debian User mailing list and give us the 
version that you're using, the type of computer, your kernel version, and 
what you have already learned from googling for the answer.  Then there 
may be enough information to help you complete the procedure.



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Re: why upgrade kernel?

2005-08-17 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I have a couple of machines which I'm in the process of upgrading to
Sarge.  I'm wondering about whether to upgrade the kernels.  They're
all running some version of 2.4, which I've built for the particular
machines.  If I don't get new hardware which need newer drivers, and I
don't care about any of the fancy new features of 2.6 (whatever those
are), is there any benefit in upgrading the kernel?  Will newer
versions of some packages eventually need a newer kernel?

   There are some changes from 2.4 to 2.6.  I haven't been able to sort 
out all the changes
on my machine yet.  However, I'm at the point where a little knowledge 
is a dangerous

thing.

   I would advise you to stay with the 2.4 kernel since it is already 
working for you.  If later
you want something like ALSA or udev, then consider a 2.6 kernel.  By 
that time the ongoing

development of the 2.6 kernel should be in better shape.

   You might want to install the packages apt-listbugs and 
apt-listchanges, if you can use them, to
tell you if an upgrade of one of your installed packages actually needs 
or requires a 2.6 kernel.  (I've

just installed them myself since I saw them recommended in another thread.)

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Re: Cups+printer install? (fwd)

2005-08-04 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless


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Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 12:03:18 +0100
From: Andrzej Doyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Resent-Date: Thu,  4 Aug 2005 06:18:47 -0500 (CDT)
Resent-From: debian-kde@lists.debian.org

Andrzej Doyle wrote:



 On 08/03/2005 08:02 pm, Ishwar Rattan wrote:
  

 Is there a way to install a printer using cups without
 a browser (no capability for http://localhost:631/)?

 I want to access remote printers alos on a cups server in
 the dept but have no interest in installing X-windows.


   



  

 Pollywog [EMAIL PROTECTED] replied:

 Are you using KDE? ...

The Add Printer option in the KDE Control Center...



Given that X windows is a prerequisite for KDE, it's safe to assume 
someone who doesn't want to install the former won't have the latter 
installed.

The CUPS Software Adminstrators Manual has the answer.  Depending on 
what you have installed, it may be available locally at 
/usr/share/cups/doc-root/sam.html and if not, it's always available at 
http://www.cups.org/doc-1.1/sam.html (both in a lynx-friendly format).  
A relevant excerpt:

Adding your first printer from the command line

Run the lpadmin command with the -p option to add a printer to CUPS:

 /usr/sbin/lpadmin -p /printer/ -E -v /device/ -m /ppd/ ENTER


I would highly recommend you read through the entire document if you're 
going to be using/changing CUPS settings.  There's also a Software Users 
Manual available, focussing on the end-users' viewpoint, available at 
the same URIs but as sum.html.

HTH,
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Re: Cups+printer install? (fwd)

2005-08-04 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless


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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 13:44:19 +0200
From: cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cups+printer install?

On Thursday 04 August 2005 06:35, Gayle Lee Fairless wrote:
 On 08/03/2005 08:02 pm, Ishwar Rattan wrote:
  Is there a way to install a printer using cups without
  a browser (no capability for http://localhost:631/)?
 
  I want to access remote printers alos on a cups server in
  the dept but have no interest in installing X-windows.

so use links, or w3m, or some other text-browser to access 
http;//localhost:631, there isn't any need to install X-windows just to be 
able to use CUPS's web-interface 

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Re: Cups+printer install?

2005-08-03 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless



On 08/03/2005 08:02 pm, Ishwar Rattan wrote:
 


Is there a way to install a printer using cups without
a browser (no capability for http://localhost:631/)?

I want to access remote printers alos on a cups server in
the dept but have no interest in installing X-windows.
   



 


Pollywog [EMAIL PROTECTED] replied:

Are you using KDE?  If so, I believe you can use the KDE Control Center (under 
Peripheral Devices  Printers).  You should also be able to edit the files 
in /etc/cups/ directly to add a printer.  I rarely use a browser for it now, 
I most often use KDE (on Xandros).  I have one laptop running Debian Sarge 
and I am almost sure that KDE has a wizard for adding printers (in the 
Control Center of KDE).



8)
 

   The Add Printer option in the KDE Control Center activates a printer 
wizard.  I found it more
intuitively easy to use than the http://localhost:631/ option in the 
browser.  Now I haven't used it to
install a remote printer.  The Debian KDE list might also have some good 
suggestions for you.


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Re: kernel-source-... renamed for .12 ???

2005-07-26 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless

Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ron Johnson wrote:
 


Anyone know why kernel-source-2.6.x was renamed to linux-source-2.6.x
for 2.6.12?
   



   If I had to hazard a guess it is because Debian has other projects (Hurd,
BSD) which have kernels which are not the Linux kernel.



Yep!


In the thread entitled 'Re: Debian kernel source and compiler' here 
(dated Sat 23 Jul 2005) on this list:


There is a longish thread on the debian-kernel list entitled '2.6.12 
upload' which seems to contain
the answers to most of your questions.    If you are an expert 
google searcher, I guess you should be able to

retrieve this thread and others.

The linux-source-* is the new convention because hurd will be a future 
choice for those who want
to run hurd instead of/(in addition to?) linux.  I guess hurd-source-* 
will let the user know what

is actually there.


I'll forward the 2 pertinent messages to you offlist if it suits your 
pleasure.  But they're on the Debian Kernel
mailing list.  I wasn't able to make Google retrieve them neatly so I 
suppose a better Googler will have to

volunteer.

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Re: [solved] 2.6 kernel beating up the IDE controller on DMA test and requests.

2005-07-26 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
debian-user-digest Digest V2005 #1827 thread entitled ' 2.6 kernel 
beating up the IDE ... on DMA test '


   The 2.6 kernel seems to be testing the DMA option on bootup so 
severely that fsck finds errors and

requests a reboot.  This is a Gateway 500 with a Pentium III (500 MHZ).



   (stuff deleted)

 On bootup of the 2.6.12 kernel there is a lot of dma testing on the 
IDE interface.  Responses of 0x41, 0x61 keep

getting reported.


 (stuff deleted)

I downloaded the source code for kernel 2.6.12 and found my solution in 
the Documentation directory.  The
kernel-parameters.txt and ide.txt showed me that I could put 
'ide=nodma' on the menu line from the lilo

menu and get a nicer bootup.

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Re: Debian kernel source and compiler

2005-07-23 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless

Jules Dubois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'm running Sid -- up-to-date except for a small number of held and broken
packages -- and have two questions about kernel source and compiling.

1) I have previously gotten, built, and used Debian's kernel source
  packages, such as kernel-source-2.6.10 and kernel-source-2.6.11.
  In the last few days, aptitude shows a new source package,
  linux-source-2.6.12.  It is the only (non-virtual) package whose
  name begins with 'linux-source'.

  Do the Debian kernel source packages use a new naming convention or
  is this new package a vanilla kernel (or something else)?
 

There is a longish thread on the debian-kernel list entitled '2.6.12 
upload' which seems to contain
the answers to most of your questions.  I'm going to forward two of the 
messages to your
private email account.  If you are an expert google searcher, I guess 
you should be able to

retrieve this thread and others.

The linux-source-* is the new convention because hurd will be a future 
choice for those who want
to run hurd instead of/(in addition to?) linux.  I guess hurd-source-* 
will let the user know what

is actually there.


2) GCC 4.0 is now the default compiler series.  When I run 'make menuconfig'
  or 'make-kpkg kernel_image', I get a large number of warnings -- these
  warnings are not generated by GCC 3.3, so I have modified the top-level
  kernel Makefile to use gcc-3.3 and g++-3.3.

  Should I use GCC 4.0 for compiling the kernel (and ignore the warnings) 
  or continue to use GCC 3.3?


 



It appears that you should use gcc 3.3 for 2.6.12.  If I understood the 
comments, gcc 4.0 will be used

for later versions (probably starting with 2.6.13).

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Re: No Screens Found

2005-07-22 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless

Cecil wrote:

I am working on an IBM Aptiva and getting the error message that no 
screen is found when I start XFree86.  



HP 845c USB on Usb0;




Gayle wrote:

I successfully used suggestions to me on the Debian KDE list to get my 
USB HP printer working.


ii  hpijs  2.1.2+0.9.2-2  HP Linux Printing and Imaging - gs IJS 
drive
ii  hplip  0.9.2-2HP Linux Printing and Imaging System 
(hplip)

ii  hplip-data 0.9.2-2HP Linux Printing and Imaging - data files


I also have cups and xprt installed.  I definitely think cups is needed 
but don't know

about xprt or xprint.

The subject was Re: In search of the 'Perfect' URI for usb printers
on the Debian KDE list


Debian Woody 3.0 ... using the bf24 boot option (kernel 2.4), Ext3 fs.



Gayle wrote:

I run that on a Gateway 500 using Ext2 fs.




 chomp chomp 
  I also need help with setting up printers



Gayle wrote:
See above for one down; one to go.


and sound, somaybe after X starts, we can go into those.  Thanks.
Cecil



Did you try the generic setting?  (IIRC, either vga or vesa?)

Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

how about including your XF86Config-4, and the tail of 
/var/log/kdm.log (just enough to see one instance of X failing to 
start. should be from some lines about  Debian heavily modified... 
blah blah blah to the end)


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sarge + 2.6.12 kernel panic

2005-07-21 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
I have a box upgraded from woody to sarge.

Are you using grub or lilo?  (Although I didn't do a fresh install, I 
suspect grub.

Posting the differences in your config file might help.  Also lspci 
results.

I'm probably as clueless as you, but the extra information might help.


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Re: sarge + 2.6.12 kernel panic

2005-07-21 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless

original post:

Just installed sarge, got fresh kernel sources for 2.6.12, used an oldconfig 
from a previously successful 2.6.11 kernel, and compiled. Unfortunately when 
I tried to boot that kernel I got this:


attempt to access beyond end of device
hda2: rw=16, want=8, limit=2
kernel panic - not syncing: I/O error reading memory image

I accepted the default sarge partitioning scheme for a desktop machine, so / 
is on hda1, and hda2 is an extended partition containing logical partitions 
hda5 and hda6 (I wonder why those numbers?).


I have found some references to this issue but they're a little over my head.

The default kernel boots fine, and there are few significant differences in 
the configs., that I can see anyway.


Does anyone know about this issue, or how to fix it? 


Please CC me.

Thanks,

John


request for more information:


I have a box upgraded from woody to sarge.

Are you using grub or lilo? (Although I didn't do a fresh install




as you did, I suspect that you are using grub.

Posting the differences in your config file might help. Also lspci
results.

I'm probably as clueless as you, but the extra information might help.




Dennis Carr wrote:


(stuff deleted)

At any rate, this has been popping up on the IRC channel as well - people
upgrading kernel from 2.6.8 to beyond on sarge have invariably experienced
problems and I suspect that this is the reason that the current kernel
image source and tree are still at 2.6.8, backports notwithstanding.

Just my $.42.

-Dennis Carr


 



   I am also subscribed to the Debian kernel list where they seem to be 
discussing 2.6.12 for Debian. 
The config file from that package might be helpful!

The subject title is


Re: goals for 2.6.12-2 (and beyond)


I lifted this from the following bug report which has the location of 
2.6.12 that I used:


Bug#317787: kernel-source-2.6.10: md memory leak
maximilian attems [EMAIL PROTECTED]
07/11/05 13:38


no 2.6.10 is unsupported, we are switching to 2.6.12 atm
there is some delay due to the new unified packaging,
but if you just need x86 version you can test those out:
http://charm.itp.tuwien.ac.at/~mattems/


Anyway, John, (the original poster), is having trouble going from 2.6.11 
to 2.6.12.  If he will post
more information about his bootup environment such as whether he's using 
grub or lilo and
some details about his hard drive configuration, types, etc.  then 
someone on the list may have

the specific information that he needs.


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2.6 kernel beating up the IDE controller on DMA test and requests.

2005-07-18 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
   The 2.6 kernel seems to be testing the DMA option on bootup so 
severely that fsck finds errors and

requests a reboot.  This is a Gateway 500 with a Pentium III (500 MHZ).

This is my lspci output:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/docs/wrk/wonk$ lspci
:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host 
bridge (rev 03)
:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP 
bridge (rev 03)

:00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
:00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
:00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
:00:0e.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] 
(rev 06)
:00:0f.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Promise Technology, Inc. 
PDC20262(FastTrak66/Ultra66) (rev 01)

:00:10.0 Communication controller: 5610 56K FaxModem WinModem
:00:11.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
RTL-8029(AS)
:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 3 
(rev 01)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/docs/wrk/wonk$

 On bootup of the 2.6.12 kernel there is a lot of dma testing on the 
IDE interface.  Responses of 0x41, 0x61 keep
getting reported.  I googled for kernel bootup problems and found quite 
an assortment including my own post about how

to set up an initrd kernel in  lilo.  I looked at hdparm

ii  hdparm 6.1-2  tune hard disk parameters for high 
performan


but the man page doesn't give instructions on how to do a simple read.

I would like to read the setup of the hard drives that the 2.4.18-bf2.4 
makes and
set the bootup options for the 2.6.12 kernel to duplicate the setup.  
The bootup

under the 2.6.12 kernel has caused fsck to find errors and request a reboot.

I am currently using lilo:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/docs/wrk/wonk$ dpkg -l | grep lilo
ii  lilo   22.6.1-6.2 LInux LOader - The Classic OS loader 
can loa

ii  lilo-config3.3.2-1KDE Frontend for lilo configuration
ii  lilo-doc   22.6.1-6.2 Documentation for LILO (LInux LOader)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/docs/wrk/wonk$

I also have the doc debian policy package.  Trying to find the 
information is a
bit daunting.  I didn't want to experiment with hdparm since I don't 
care to mess up
my hard drive beyond recovery.  I just want to set the 2.6 kernel boot 
optons to make

it boot reliably w/o corrupting the filesystem.

   Thank you for your help, pointers, and where to find the correct 
documentation!


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Re: Hewlett-Packard package conflicts

2005-07-09 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless




From:
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:
Sat, 9 Jul 2005 15:04:37 -0300



On Tue, 05 Jul 2005, Gayle Lee Fairless wrote:
 

I posted a question to Debian User about package conflicts between 
hpoj(sp?) and hplip(sp?) that are for parallel HP printers and usb HP 
printers.  My HP 697C is parallel, and my HP psc1210 is usb.
   



The conflicts will be removed in etch.  hplip has already removed them in
sid, after I manage to make sure things do work alright, I will ask the hpoj
mainainter to do so as well.

hplip does NOT connect to any printer unless you configure it to do so, so
it is safe.  HPOJ, you will have to use some sort of command (I don't know
which) to tell it to stay away from the USB ports, and then configure HPLIP
to use them.

 

I wonder if it is possible to force aptitude to install those 2 
conflicting packages and somehow match them to the appropriate printer?


   



You will need to use a backport of the sid hplip package (not yet uploaded,
maybe when 0.9.4 shows up), and to modify hpoj to stop conflicting with
hplip.
 



A gentleman on the Debian KDE list told me how to install the 
conflicting package:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/docs/wrk/wonk$ dpkg -l | grep hp
ii  foomatic-db-hp 1.5-20050420-1 linuxprinting.org printer support - 
database
ii  hp-ppd 0.5HP Postscript Printer Definition (PPD) 
files
ii  hp2xx  3.4.4-2A HPGL converter into some vector- and 
raste

ii  hp48cc 1.3-3.1C-like compiler which produces HP48 RPN
ii  hpijs  2.1.2+0.9.2-2  HP Linux Printing and Imaging - gs IJS 
drive
ii  hplip  0.9.2-2HP Linux Printing and Imaging System 
(hplip)

ii  hplip-data 0.9.2-2HP Linux Printing and Imaging - data files
ii  hpoj   0.91-4 HP OfficeJet Linux driver (hpoj)
ii  hpscanpbm  0.3a-11HP ScanJet scanning utility
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/docs/wrk/wonk$

I got it installed by almost following his instructions.  Finding out 
how to follow your general
advice about configuration is my 'next adventure!'  I have CUPS and the 
foomatic packages
and will be looking at the docs, etc.  I can already use localhost:631 
to get into CUPS.  I also
understand that the KDE printer wizard should be helpful.  I'm a little 
fuzzy about putting in
the URI's.  The test page for the parallel printer works.  I can dump 
dostext to the parallel
printer with 'lpr -l dostext file'  which is simply the raw text 
bypassing the filters.  I have
yet to activate the usb printer (usblp0).  As this is a sarge box 
upgraded from woody, hotplug

is installed among other things.

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   Thank you for your information.  Any other general or specific help 
is welcome.  CC's or
direct email is fine.  However, I am subscribed to the digest so 
replying to the list is certainly okay!

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Hewlett-Packard package conflicts

2005-07-05 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
I posted a question to Debian User about package conflicts between 
hpoj(sp?) and hplip(sp?) that are for parallel HP printers and usb HP 
printers.  My HP 697C is parallel, and my HP psc1210 is usb.

Perhaps this question should also be posed to Debian KDE since one of
their hints in version 3.3 recommends CUPS which I have.  I also have
Xprint stuff installed which was recommended for removal in a message
posted on Debian User.  When I went into aptitude to do that, it seems
that aptitupde wanted to remove about half the packages.  Since that
looked like wholesale destruction of the system, I was quite leery of
doing that!  I'm somewhat confused about what to do next about the printer
conflicts.  I am able to use localhost:631 to get into CUPS
administration.  The hpoj package created an entry in ptal something about
mlc:usb: etc.  I was wondering if this is the famous URI (Uniform Resource
Indicator?) that is supposed to find the usb printer which I think the
system picks up as usblp0.  (That '0' is a zero.)

As you know, I'm running a sarge system upgraded from woody with a choice 
of 2.4.18-bf2.4, 2.6.11.  i686, and 2.6.12  i686 kernels. This is on a 
Gateway 500 with a Pentium III (Katmai).

I wonder if it is possible to force aptitude to install those 2 
conflicting packages and somehow match them to the appropriate printer?



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package conflict using both parallel and usb Hewlett-Packard printers

2005-07-03 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
   I have both a parallel HP 697 C printer and an usb HP psc 1210 on my 
sarge system using CUPS.


   Apparently, I need two conflicting packages to use both printers.  
How do I resolve the conflict?



The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 hplip: Conflicts: hpoj but 0.91-4 is installed.
 hpoj: Conflicts: hplip but 0.9.2-2 is to be installed.


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Re: Dialer Problems-Only Pon Works

2005-06-29 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless

I'm having some of the same issues that Leonard has.  The wvdial 
doesn't appear to work on 2.6 kernels.  I've scripted the tests as high as 
kernel 2.6.12.  It seems that the connection is immediately lost with only 
0.0 or 0.1 minutes connection time reported.

I am going to use scanModem as he did to see if changing modems 
from my external Hayes to the internal one will work.  Also, the pppd (I 
think) seems to randomly dial up the ISP.  I've gotten errors 1 and 16 on 
different occasions from the pppd daemon as documented in man pppd.  The 
program wvdial (and version, 54 something, I'm doing this off the top of 
the head from work.), same version as Len's, works just fine on kernel 
2.4.18-bf2.4 (the one available in woody).

My box is a Gateway 500 upgraded from woody to sarge.

I'll try to post more information when I get home especially in 
response to questions.  Some of this is a 'work in progrss' so I don't 
have some of the answers (actually many!).  I have yet to try out a script 
in kppp to see if that works.  Both Len and I probably run KDE 3.3 from 
sarge.

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Re: [Fwd: Re: VFS: Cannot open root device 2141 ... Kernelpanic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unk-blk(33,65)]

2005-06-25 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
On Fri, 24 Jun 2005, Debian User Leonard Chatagnier wrote:

 Gayle Lee Fairless wrote:
 
 
 
   Original Message 
  Subject: Re: VFS: Cannot open root device 2141 ... Kernelpanic: 
  VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unk-blk(33,65)
  Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:26:08 -0500 (CDT)
  From: Gayle Lee Fairless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Edward Dunagin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  CC: Debian User Leonard Chatagnier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
  On Thu, 23 Jun 2005, Edward Dunagin wrote:
 
  let me see if i can help.
 
  i am assuming you downloaded kernel-image-2.6.8-686.
 
--- stuff deleted)---
 
  Peaceed
 
  --- Debian User Leonard Chatagnier
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Gayle Lee Fairless wrote:
I am subscribed to the list, but CC's are fine.
   
   
   Thank you for any help giving or pointing me to
   the correct   information!
   

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  line 'initrd=/initrd.img' after the read-only line in the Linux label 
  stanza.  Now the 2.6 kernel (you guessed or read correctly) boots.  It 
  appears to be a little fussier than the bf2.4 kernel which still works 
  fine.  I kept it under the LinuxOld label where the package put it in 
  lilo.conf.
 
  After I fixed the lilo.conf with the initrd=/initrd.img, I got the 
  2.6.8 kernel to run but ran into what appeared to be Bug #276020 filed 
  against that kernel so I went to unstable and got the 2.6.11 kernel.  
  It seems to manifest the same bug with wvdial.  I now have package ii  
  kernel-image-2 2.6.11-7   Linux kernel image for version 2.6.11 on 
  PPr
 
  from unstable on a sarge upgraded from woody.  I managed to use pon 
  somehow to connect to the Internet, but it seems to cut on and off 
  periodically.
 
  Is there a better workaround?
 
 
 Hey Gayle, exactly what is your wvdial problem?  With my wvdial 1.54 I 
 can use it as root with no problem but can't
 change owner to user and I have user added to dialout, dip and every 
 other related group.

  Is that your problem or something else.  BTW, 


--(stuff deleted)---

I used sudo wvdial under 2.4.18-bf2.4 from woody for the longest 
time.  If you check Bug #276020 filed against the 2.6.8 kernel on 
debian.org, I appear to have the same problem.  The darn thing just won't 
stay connected!  Under the 2.6.11 686 7 kernel from unstable, I got 
intermittent connection under pon, the connection would hold long enough 
to be usuable but would periodically drop and have to reconnect.  I'm not 
sure that is a solution.  I read your thread with perhaps a similar 
problem when I googled for it.  I probably have it in my email in the 
digest but am behind on my reading the digests.  Even the digests for 
Debian User are high Volume!



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Re: [Fwd: Re: VFS: Cannot open root device 2141 ... Kernelpanic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unk-blk(33,65)]

2005-06-25 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless


Subject:
Re: [Fwd: Re: VFS: Cannot open root device 2141 ... Kernelpanic: VFS: 
Unable to mount root fs on unk-blk(33,65)]

From:
Marty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:
Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:06:29 -0400

To:
debian-user@lists.debian.org


Gayle Lee Fairless wrote:

line 'initrd=/initrd.img' after the read-only line in the Linux label 
stanza.  Now the 2.6 kernel (you guessed or read correctly) boots.  
It appears to be a little fussier than the bf2.4 kernel which still 
works fine.  I kept it under the LinuxOld label where the package put 
it in lilo.conf.


After I fixed the lilo.conf with the initrd=/initrd.img, I got 
the 2.6.8 kernel to run but ran into what appeared to be Bug #276020 
filed against that kernel so I went to unstable and got the 2.6.11 
kernel.  It seems to manifest the same bug with wvdial.







Marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked:


I just read it.  Just to clarify, are you saying that you too have a
500MHz Celeron in a Dell Optiplex GX-100?




Gayle's reply:

I have a Gateway 500 with a Pentium III at 500 MHZ that bootup 
identifies as Katmai.  That speed is approximately close enough to the 
speed of a Celeron at 500 MHZ, or so it would seem.  It is possible that 
I skimmed over the Bugreport a little too lightly, but the general 
description seems pertinent.





  I now have package

ii  kernel-image-2 2.6.11-7   Linux kernel image for version 
2.6.11 on PPr


from unstable on a sarge upgraded from woody.  I managed to use pon 
somehow to connect to the Internet, but it seems to cut on and off 
periodically.


Is there a better workaround?





Marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked:


Did you try an internal modem?  How about recompiling the kernel
with a 100Hz tick (instead of the default 1KHz)?  These are the
first troubleshooting steps I would take based on the bug description.




Gayle's reply:

   I am using the standard Debian kernel-images at present and have yet 
to attempt compiling a kernel.  Although the Gateway 500 does have an 
internal modem that Windows 98SE can use, Linux appears to be able to 
use only the Hayes external modem.


   I got the following comment from Len Chatagnier:


Hello Gayle,

The problem with wvdial on sarge stable is with the wvdialconf and 
pppconfig.  Yes, this is a newbie
making that statement.  My last reply about wvdial v1.54 was 
incorrect.  I was using pon to keep from
using su and when I tried wvdial it didn' work; only pon on woody 
works.  I discovered that there is no
ATDT command in the configurations and recall that sarge testing had 
it.  I've run wvdialconf and pppconfig
and it wasn't added.  Of course, there may have been a change I'm not 
aware of that made it unnecessary; but
highly unlikely.  There are 3 wvdial configuration files in sarge and 
on mine they were all different; the one in
/home/usr had the dialer info commented out.  I changed all 3 to agree 
with /etc/wvdial.conf as it was the most
complete but no ATDT entry in any.  I remember gettting a lot of help 
from Marv S. at Linuxant.com on sarge testing and vaguely recall him 
having me add init3=ATDT to wvdial.conf.  If you still can't get 
wvdial to work
check for the ATDT entry; I'm sure its required.  Got your message 
before adding it to my conf, but will try it

as soon as I send this.

Leonard 



Gayle's current status and possible lines of development:

I intend to look at Leonard's suggestion to see if that works.  If it 
doesn't, then I recall that in a previous thread that there is a 'Debian 
way' to compile a kernel.  I have already downloaded some of the 
packages necessary to do that such as



[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/docs/wrk/wonk$ dpkg -l | grep kernel
ii  iptables   1.2.11-10  Linux kernel 2.4+ iptables 
administration to
ii  kcmlinuz   3.3.2-1KDE Frontend for the Linux kernel 
configurat
ii  kernel-doc-2.6 2.6.8-16   Linux kernel specific documentation 
for vers
ii  kernel-headers 101Linux kernel headers 2.6 on 
PPro/Celeron/PII
ii  kernel-headers 2.6.8-16   Header files related to Linux kernel 
version
ii  kernel-headers 2.6.8-16   Linux kernel headers 2.6.8 on 
PPro/Celeron/P
ii  kernel-image-2 2.4.16-1   Linux kernel image for version 2.4.16 
on PPr
ii  kernel-image-2 2.6.11-7   Linux kernel image for version 2.6.11 
on PPr
ii  kernel-image-2 2.6.8-16   Linux kernel image for version 2.6.8 
on PPro

ii  kernel-kbuild- 2.6.8-2Linux kernel 2.6 kbuild tools
ii  kernel-package 8.135  A utility for building Linux kernel 
related
ii  kernel-source- 2.6.8-16   Linux kernel source for version 2.6.8 
with D
ii  ksymoops   2.4.9-1Linux kernel oops and error message 
decoder

ii  linux-kernel-h 2.5.999-test7- Linux Kernel Headers for development
ii  module-init-to 3.2-pre1-2 tools for managing Linux kernel modules
ii  nfs-kernel-ser 1.0.6-3.1  Kernel NFS server support
ii  r-cran-kernsmo 2.22.15-1  GNU R package for kernel smoothing and 
densi

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Re: [Fwd: Re: VFS: Cannot open root device 2141 ... Kernelpanic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unk-blk(33,65)]

2005-06-25 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless


Gayle's current wvdial problem:

After I fixed the lilo.conf with the initrd=/initrd.img, I got the 
2.6.8 kernel to run but ran into what appeared to be Bug #276020 filed 
against that kernel so I went to unstable and got the 2.6.11 kernel.  
It seems to manifest the same bug with wvdial.






Marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked:


I just read it.  Just to clarify, are you saying that you too have a
500MHz Celeron in a Dell Optiplex GX-100? 




I scripted the wvdial output with the 2.6.11 kernel:


-- Looks like a welcome message.
-- Starting pppd at Fri Jun 24 16:57:55 2005
-- pid of pppd: 10581
-- Using interface ppp0
-- local  IP address 216.180.4.129
-- remote IP address 216.180.14.99
-- primary   DNS address 216.180.99.2
-- secondary DNS address 216.180.122.2
-- Connect time 0.1 minutes.

Note that the total connect time indicates an immediate disconnect!


-- Disconnecting at Fri Jun 24 16:58:05 2005
-- The PPP daemon has died: A modem hung up the phone (exit code = 16)

This error code is documented in the man pppd page.


-- man pppd explains pppd error codes in more detail.
-- Try again and look into /var/log/messages and the wvdial and pppd 
man pages

for more information.
-- Auto Reconnect will be attempted in 5 seconds

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[Fwd: Re: VFS: Cannot open root device 2141 ... Kernelpanic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unk-blk(33,65)]

2005-06-24 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless



 Original Message 
Subject: 	Re: VFS: Cannot open root device 2141 ... Kernelpanic: VFS: 
Unable to mount root fs on unk-blk(33,65)

Date:   Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:26:08 -0500 (CDT)
From:   Gayle Lee Fairless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Edward Dunagin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: Debian User Leonard Chatagnier [EMAIL PROTECTED]



On Thu, 23 Jun 2005, Edward Dunagin wrote:


let me see if i can help.

i am assuming you downloaded kernel-image-2.6.8-686.

if that is right, the download would have included 
initrd.image-2.6.8.686 and it would be in your /boot

directory. is it there ?

we will go from here. you can reply to me privatly if
you like for it seems that someone was bothered that
you did not use the user-debian list.

Peaceed

--- Debian User Leonard Chatagnier
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gayle Lee Fairless wrote:
 
 I am subscribed to the list, but CC's are fine.

 
 What options or docs did I miss?  Hopefully,
 it's just a change to 
  my lilo.conf file?  Although my boot drive is
 /dev/hde, my root for 
  Linux is on /dev/hdf1 as you can see from the
 lilo.conf file.  This 



 it.
 
 Thank you for any help giving or pointing me to
 the correct 
  information!

 







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(stuff deleted)
line 'initrd=/initrd.img' after the read-only line in the Linux label 
stanza.  Now the 2.6 kernel (you guessed or read correctly) boots.  It 
appears to be a little fussier than the bf2.4 kernel which still works 
fine.  I kept it under the LinuxOld label where the package put it in 
lilo.conf.


	After I fixed the lilo.conf with the initrd=/initrd.img, I got 
the 2.6.8 kernel to run but ran into what appeared to be Bug #276020 filed 
against that kernel so I went to unstable and got the 2.6.11 kernel.  It 
seems to manifest the same bug with wvdial.  I now have package 
ii  kernel-image-2 2.6.11-7   Linux kernel image for version 2.6.11 on PPr


from unstable on a sarge upgraded from woody.  I managed to use pon somehow to 
connect to the Internet, but it seems to cut on and off periodically.


Is there a better workaround?


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Re: VFS: Cannot open root device 2141 ... Kernelpanic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unk-blk(33,65)

2005-06-23 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005, Debian User Leonard Chatagnier wrote:

 Gayle Lee Fairless wrote:
 
 I just upgraded from the 2.4.18bf2.4 kernel, now LinuxOLD on my 
  LILO menu, to the 2.6.8  686 kernel available from sarge.  
  Unfortunately the 2.6 kernel gives me the following panic:
 
  VFS: Cannot open root device 2141 or unknown-block(33,65)
  Please append a correct root= boot option
 
  Kernelpanic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(33,65)
 
 The computer is a Gateway 500 with a Pentium III at 500 MHZ.  I 
  looked through the man pages for lilo.conf, syslog, and a few others.  
  I also looked at the source, somewhat briefly, of course, for any 
  special options for 2.6 kernels that I needed to put into the 
  lilo.conf file.  (I've also downloaded the source code for the 2.6.8 
  kernel.)  The bf2.4 kernel works fine.  However, both the 2.4.16-686 
  and the 2.6.8-2-686 kernels will panic.  I'm only concerned about 
  booting and using the 2.6 kernel, of course.
 
 I am subscribed to the list, but CC's are fine.
 
 What options or docs did I miss?  Hopefully, it's just a change to 
  my lilo.conf file?  Although my boot drive is /dev/hde, my root for 
  Linux is on /dev/hdf1 as you can see from the lilo.conf file.  This 
  Gateway 500 also has Window 98SE on it.  I added a second hard drive 
  and decided to put Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 (woody) on it.
 
 Thank you for any help giving or pointing me to the correct 
  information!
 
  This is my /boot directory:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/docs$ cat bootdir.txt
  total 12620
  drwxr-xr-x   2 root4096 Jun 23 10:03 .
  drwxr-xr-x  24 root4096 Jun 23 10:00 ..
  -rw-r--r--   1 root  398501 Nov 27  2001 System.map-2.4.16-686
  -rw-r--r--   1 root  559088 May 14  2004 System.map-2.4.18-bf2.4
  -rw-r--r--   1 root  843026 May 19 04:27 System.map-2.6.8-2-686
  -rw-r--r--   1 root 512 May 14  2004 boot.2100
  -rw-r--r--   1 root 512 Jun 19 15:39 boot.2140
  lrwxrwxrwx   1 root  11 May 14  2004 boot.b - boot-menu.b
  -rw-r--r--   1 root  308326 Jun 19 15:13 coffee.bmp
  -rw-r--r--   1 root   34159 Nov 27  2001 config-2.4.16-686
  -rw-r--r--   1 root   16984 May 14  2004 config-2.4.18-bf2.4
  -rw-r--r--   1 root   55399 May 19 03:51 config-2.6.8-2-686
  lrwxrwxrwx   1 root  15 Jun 19 15:13 debian.bmp - /boot/sarge.bmp
  -rw-r--r--   1 root  153720 Jun 19 15:13 debianlilo.bmp
  -rw-r--r--   1 root 2682880 Apr 20 00:46 initrd.img-2.4.16-686
  -rw-r--r--   1 root 4636672 Jun 23 10:00 initrd.img-2.6.8-2-686
  -rw---   1 root   42496 Jun 23 10:03 map
  -rw-r--r--   1 root   23662 Jun 19 15:13 sarge.bmp
  -rw-r--r--   1 root   24116 Jun 19 15:13 sid.bmp
  -rw-r--r--   1 root  611285 Nov 27  2001 vmlinuz-2.4.16-686
  -rw-r--r--   1 root 1263339 May 14  2004 vmlinuz-2.4.18-bf2.4
  -rw-r--r--   1 root 1170965 May 19 04:27 vmlinuz-2.6.8-2-686
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/docs$
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/drivers$ cat lilo.conf
  # /etc/lilo.conf - See: `lilo(8)' and `lilo.conf(5)',
  # ---   `install-mbr(8)', `/usr/share/doc/lilo/',
  #   and `/usr/share/doc/mbr/'.
 
  # +---+
  # |!! Reminder !! |
  # |   |
  # | Don't forget to run `lilo' after you make changes to this |
  # | conffile, `/boot/bootmess.txt', or install a new kernel.  The |
  # | computer will most likely fail to boot if a kernel-image  |
  # | post-install script or you don't remember to run `lilo'.  |
  # |   |
  # +---+
 
  # Support LBA for large hard disks.
  #
  lba32
 
  # Overrides the default mapping between harddisk names and the BIOS'
  # harddisk order. Use with caution.
  disk=/dev/hde
  bios=0x80
 
  disk=/dev/hdf
  bios=0x81
 
  # Specifies the boot device.  This is where Lilo installs its boot
  # block.  It can be either a partition, or the raw device, in which
  # case it installs in the MBR, and will overwrite the current MBR.
  #
  boot=/dev/hde
 
  # Specifies the device that should be mounted as root. (`/')
  #
  root=/dev/hdf1
 
  # Enable map compaction:
  # Tries to merge read requests for adjacent sectors into a single
  # read request. This drastically reduces load time and keeps the
  # map smaller.  Using `compact' is especially recommended when
  # booting from a floppy disk.  It is disabled here by default
  # because it doesn't always work.
  #
  # compact
 
  # Installs the specified file as the new boot sector
  # You have the choice between: bmp, compat, menu and text
  # Look in /boot/ and in lilo.conf(5) manpage for details
  #
  install=/boot/boot-menu.b
 
  # Specifies the location of the map file
  #
  map=/boot/map
 
  # You can set a password here, and uncomment the `restricted' lines

Re: Woody-No Mouse, Sarge-OK

2005-06-05 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless




[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cd /dev
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/dev$ ll mouse
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root5 May 17  2004 mouse - psaux
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/dev$ ll psaux
crw---1 root root  10,   1 Jun  4 20:28 psaux
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/dev$

I got the same results as [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Now I'm still running 
just woody and will probably upgrade the week of 13 June 2005.  I 
guess I had better save a bunch of stuff.


I'm confused by your command ll.  It wont run on bash for me.  Is this 
an akias for ls -l?  Also don't see and /dev in
your output.  Would you explain? 


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cd /
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/$ ls
XF86Config.new  cdrom   dvd homelib opt   sbin  var
bin cdrom0  etc initrd  lost+found  proc  tmp   vmlinuz
bootdev floppy  initrd.img  mnt root  usr
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/$ ll dev/mo*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root dialout10 May 30  2004 dev/modem - 
/dev/ttyS0

lrwxrwxrwx1 root root5 May 17  2004 dev/mouse - psaux
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/$ ll dev/ps*
crw---1 root root  10,   1 Jun  5 17:26 dev/psaux
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/$

From my home directory, I just cd'ed to the root directory.  Since dev 
is itself a directory, I can cd to it as I did in the previous example 
or use the local path as I did in the second example.  As you guessed, 
'll' is indeed an alias that uses the 'ls' command in the '.bashrc' file 
that should be in your user home directory.


I'm sending my .bashrc file in a separate message for the benefit of 
those who prefer to skip it.


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Re: Woody-No Mouse, Sarge-OK (tangent to show example .bashrc file in Woody)

2005-06-05 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat .bashrc
# ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells.
# see /usr/share/doc/bash/examples/startup-files (in the package bash-doc)
# for examples

# If running interactively, then:
if [ $PS1 ]; then

   # don't put duplicate lines in the history. See bash(1) for more options
   # export HISTCONTROL=ignoredups

   # enable color support of ls and also add handy aliases
   eval `dircolors -b`
   alias ls='ls --color=auto'
   alias dir='ls --color=auto --format=vertical'
   alias vdir='ls --color=auto --format=long'
   alias lall='ls -agl'

   # some more ls aliases
alias lt='ls --color=auto -aglt'
alias ll='ls --color=auto -agl'
alias lg='ls --color=auto -gl'
   alias la='ls -A'
   #alias l='ls -CF'
   alias llm='ls  --color=auto -agl | less'

   # set a fancy prompt
   PS1='[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ '

   # If this is an xterm set the title to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:dir
   #case $TERM in
   #xterm*)
   #PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -ne \033]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED]: ${PWD}\007'
   #;;
   #*)
   #;;
   #esac

   # enable programmable completion features (you don't need to enable
   # this, if it's already enabled in /etc/bash.bashrc).
   #if [ -f /etc/bash_completion ]; then
   #  . /etc/bash_completion
   #fi
fi
# by Sun Microsystems setup
DBROOT=/home/gayle/adabas
DBWORK=/home/gayle/adabas/sql
DBCONFIG=/home/gayle/adabas/sql
PATH=$DBROOT/bin:$DBROOT/pgm:$PATH
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$DBROOT/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
export DBROOT DBWORK DBCONFIG PATH LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
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Re: Woody-No Mouse, Sarge-OK

2005-06-04 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless


On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 02:01:38PM +, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:

This problem started after removing devfsd on Sarge to overcome a 
conflict between udev and devfs. It just
took a while to realize it as woody is not booted very often.  So, I 
reinstalled devfsd and recreated the symlink
ln -s /dev/mouse /dev/psaux.  Although this hasn't changed anything 
when 


That's backward, it should be ln -s /dev/psaux /dev/mouse.
Now you probably have two symlinks pointing at each other.
ls -l /dev/psaux /dev/mouse




If psaux is a symlink:
rm /dev/psaux
mknod /dev/psaux c 10 1



I'm doing this under woody without mouse working so it wont get mixed 
up with sarge.
Thanks very much for the info about the backward symlink and mknod 
which I've never used.
I asked a friend to send me his copy of the above psaux link, because 
I've got them backward
before but he has been out of the pocket so I tried it myself and 
naturall got it wrong.  However, mouse still not working under woody.  
Here's what I did following your instruction

as I understood them:

# rm /dev/psaux
Rm: cannot remove `/dev/psaux/: no such file or directory(note:done 
after already rm when

kbd screwed up doing mknod)
# mknod /dev/psaux c 10 1
# ls -l /dev/psaux /dev/mouse
lwrxwrxwrx  1 root  root 10 June 4 08:20 /dev/mouse - /dev/psaux
crw-r--r--  1 root  root  10, 1 June 4 10:03 /dev/psaux
#
The above copied by hand as I don't know how to copy and paste without 
mouse and gpm working. However, its basically what the terminal 
results were, but still no working mouse.
At least the symlink is there now and I've rebooted but no mouse.  
Hope you have more things to
try and thanks for your help.  I thought surely the mouse would come 
back after getting the symlink

down correctly.
Leonard C




[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cd /dev
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/dev$ ll mouse
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root5 May 17  2004 mouse - psaux
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/dev$ ll psaux
crw---1 root root  10,   1 Jun  4 20:28 psaux
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/dev$

I got the same results as [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Now I'm still running just 
woody and will probably upgrade the week of 13 June 2005.  I guess I had 
better save a bunch of stuff.


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Unidentified subject!

2005-01-04 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 09:27:46 -0500From: Icebiker 
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 Subject: Re: wget times out - but ftp works OK

 (stuff deleted)

 ... for your ethernet controller
   ...
 (got a DI 604 too, wonderful little box).

 /icebiker


I saw a Dlink DI-604 in a local store.  How well does it work as a cable 
modem/router?

I'm running woody with a 2.4.18bf2.4 kernel.

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Re can't the shell do a better job

2005-01-01 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless

From:
Maurits van Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Somewhat related: with CONTROL-R you can search backwards in your
history when on the command line. It can be quite a time saver. I
think that's only when you're in emacs-compatible mode.
This is a feature of bash.  Someone with more knowledge of the various 
shells could probably elaborate more on this topic.

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Re: netenv boot popup

2005-01-01 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless




From:
Vineet Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* jose isaias cabrera ([EMAIL PROTECTED])[20041231 10:57]:
 

Hi.  Let me get into this one, because I want to also get rid of it...
I can't really take a screen shot, because the system is booting, but
maybe I can take a picture of it.  Anyway, it comes up and ask you if
you want to setup the network again or if you want to use the previous
settings.  It just installed Debian yesterday and it came after I had
setup and downloaded all the files from the network.  I rebooted and
there it was... if you don't choose something, it just hangs there and
does nothing...
   

sudo dpkg --remove netenv
good times,
Vineet
 

I also have this window or menu coming up at boot.  I have just been 
hitting return and letting the bootup finish.  The menu appeared after I 
had tried to reconfigure the system to get out.  Since I'm now able to 
use dialup to my ISP, I have just worked around it until I learned more.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ netstat -r
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask 
Flags   MSS Windowirtt Iface
tnt6.hiwaay.net *   255.255.255.255 
UH   40 0  0  ppp0
localnet*   255.255.255.0   
   U40 0  0  dummy0
default tnt6.hiwaay.net 0.0.0.0 
UG   40 0  0  ppp0


Gcomm:/home/gayle# iptables -L
Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination
Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination
Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination
Do I need to make any simple entries into the iptables just to tidy 
things up?  (I have shorewall installed, but something claims I have no 
ppp support and shoudl configure ppp0.)  What do I need to save whenever 
sarge goes stable?

Gcomm:/home/gayle# ifconfig
dummy0Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00
 inet addr:192.168.128.1  Bcast:192.168.128.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
 UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP  MTU:1500  Metric:1
 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
 TX packets:249 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:61210 (59.7 KiB)
loLink encap:Local Loopback
 inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
 RX packets:969 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
 TX packets:969 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
 RX bytes:67651 (66.0 KiB)  TX bytes:67651 (66.0 KiB)
ppp0  Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
 inet addr:216.180.4.118  P-t-P:216.180.14.99  Mask:255.255.255.255
 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1524  Metric:1
 RX packets:7177 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
 TX packets:7456 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
 collisions:0 txqueuelen:3
 RX bytes:3824431 (3.6 MiB)  TX bytes:625468 (610.8 KiB)
Gcomm:/home/gayle#
The dummy0 interface is supposed to be part of my home ethernet.  The 
ppp0 interface is obviously my dialup.  In the future I would like to be 
able sway the ppp0 interface with a DSL provider while keeping the old 
configuration.

Len, I shall be eagerly anticipating your post about how you shape up 
your system since I appear to have similar concerns.

Now that I'm able to dialup and use things, I've been reluctant to make 
big changes.

If I do nothing else, let me wish all here a Happy and prosperous New 
Year!  And thanks for the continuing discussion on the details and 
general philosophy of using Debian systems!

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Re: ncftp versus ncftp2 -- Debian packages for woody

2004-12-28 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
From:
Alex Malinovic

ncftp2 is the old ncftp client which many people really liked to use 
in scripts (a la wget). ncftp (3.x+) is a rewrite which focuses on 
using ncftp as a client application, not an automated scripting tool. 
If you prefer a CLI ftp client to a GUI like I do, ncftp (3.x+) is 
about the best program out there. It does local and remote directory 
completion, it has a great bookmark system, tons of options, and is 
very well laid out. And best of all, while it uses ncurses it manages 
to do so without those garish red on blue menus. Everything is in 
black and white but just laid out in an easy to read graphical layout. 
If, on the other hand, you need a cron job to do lots of ftp transfers 
and wget can't handle it for some reason, ncftp2 might be what you 
need. That's just my opinion though. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to 
find quite a few die hard ncftp2 users who actually use it as their 
client day to day. 

Ok, I got both packages.  The man pages are identical.  I used ncftp to 
download some files off my shell account on my ISP just to free up some 
space.  It does give a nice running download summary similar to apt-get 
update  apt-get upgrade.  Just the plain old ftp by itself just sits 
there and looks at you silently while doing its business.  I have yet to 
see the difference.  I guess I'll explore further.  I may have missed 
the obvious difference(s) or just haven't used it enough yet.

Thanks for the information!
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ncftp versus ncftp2 -- Debian packages for woody

2004-12-27 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
I note that ncftp is perhaps ten times bigger than ncftp2 and is a 
rewrite of it with ncurses being in it.  And ncftp2 has no SOCKS in it.  
(It's barefoot?)

What is the difference between the two?  Or rather, what does it 
mean?  It appears that ncftp is more of a GUI application since ncurses 
seems to be necessary for terminal graphics.  IIRC

I've been shopping the packages list for woody on www.Debian.org.
Thank y'all for the background information in advance!
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Re: On your upgrade from woody to sarge

2004-12-13 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 23:27:46 -0600 (CST), Gayle Lee Fairless
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]

 
 I was wondering if the apt-get dist-upgrade would also upgrade 
the
 kernel, too.  Sourceforge makes it sound easy.


Only if there are updated Debian revision of your kernel version.


Andrea

Does that mean that a change from a 2.4 kernel to a 2.6 kernel has
to be a separate operation?  (In which case, I guess I had better really
study that Sourceforge document very seriously!)

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Re: On your upgrade from woody to sarge

2004-12-12 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:

 Not sure what you mean.  I put testing in the sources.list which I thought
 would get the Sarge.  Running upgrade several times never got away from
 2.4.18-bf2.4 Woody.  Now trying using pkg-upgrade as apt conditioner but my
 /var directory isn't large enough to contain the download.  Attempting to
 use a symlnk to a partition with enough free space but its not working
 either.
 
 Leonard Chatagnier
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gayle Lee Fairless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 5:57 PM
 Subject: On your upgrade from woody to sarge
 
 
  Did you change your kernel version?
 
  I'm asking because I'll probably upgrade from woody to sarge when
  sarge finally goes stable.  I guess that upgrading the kernel to a 2.6
  might also be an improvement.  Right now I tend to use KDE with gdm.  I
  hope that the resolution can be more easily managed, too.  And I hope to
  use my usb HP psc1210 better as well as the HP 697C on my parallel port.
 
 
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I was wondering if the apt-get dist-upgrade would also upgrade the 
kernel, too.  Sourceforge makes it sound easy.

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On your upgrade from woody to sarge

2004-12-12 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
Did you change your kernel version?

I'm asking because I'll probably upgrade from woody to sarge when 
sarge finally goes stable.  I guess that upgrading the kernel to a 2.6 
might also be an improvement.  Right now I tend to use KDE with gdm.  I 
hope that the resolution can be more easily managed, too.  And I hope to 
use my usb HP psc1210 better as well as the HP 697C on my parallel port.


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Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work

2004-12-04 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
reply below

On Fri, 3 Dec 2004, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:

 Hey, Thanks for the reference. I'm lurking the group emails and have read
 some manuals on board.  Problem is some are too geeky for me to understand
 although I've picked up a lot since installing linux about 2  months ago.  I
 have set outlook express to all text  mode as a result of using another
 discussion group for modem drivers.  Since my problems includes a
 malfunctioning Mozilla mail client, I copy anything I want to email to my
 zip drive and paste it into OE, maybe that's how it got coded.  I'm getting
 that cookbook hoping its more user friendly.
 Len Chatagnier

lots of
stuff deleted

 
  also still learning my Linux.  Look in the books section of Debian.org and
  get one called a Cookbook.  It is Debian specific and gives you better
  insight into the Debian GNU/Linux system.  Of course, browsing through

stuff deleted

 
  Enjoy your system and Season's Greetings!
  (Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless
 
 


The book is by Michael Stutz

THE LINUX COOKBOOK

 published by Linux Journal Press copyright 2001




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Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work

2004-12-04 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
 Since my problems includes a
malfunctioning Mozilla mail client, 
Len Chatagnier

	One non-Debian way to get a late model browser and mailer for woody is 
to download the tarball file for Linux from netscape.com.  The 
downloader can download a small downloader that then downloads the 
pieces or download a larger tarball file that can install itself without 
a modem connection.

	I had the program to install itself to /usr/local/netscape after 
enabling write permissions for my user account.  The program copies with 
it the libraries necessary for it to run.  That is not in the default 
command path so it takes a different syntax to start it.  Of course you 
may prefer to be a purist and run what woody already has.  You should be 
able to get that working.

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Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work

2004-12-03 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless

(reply below)

On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:

 I didn't realize that sending the attachment raw over Outlook Express would
 cause this confusion.  I read it with notepad before sending to be sure it
 was readable.  I guess everone on the list is using linux software to send
 mail and I would have but it's not working right.  Sometimes I can receive
 and send, many times not.  I'll be using a dual boot system for a long time,
 until I know a lot more about linux.
 Len Chatagnier
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gayle Fairless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 1:54 PM
 Subject: Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work
 
 
  Steve Block [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 04:38:19PM -0600, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
 
 
  On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 04:38:19PM -0600, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
 
   are not syntax issues.  I have attached the sources.list if someone
 wants to
   look.  Pleasee note that any thing above the ftp: listings were done by
 the
   system. I put every thing else in with nano. I hope someone can help me
 fix
   this so I can update and upgrade.
 
  Patrick Albuquerque wrote:
 
 
  
   You have encrypted your /etc/apt/sources.list file?  Also, what version
   of Debian are you installing?
   Patrick,
 
 end of Patrick Albuquierque quote
 
  The file is plain text, just typed as binary in the attachment for some
  reason.
 
 end of  Steve Block quote
 
  The kernel is the same as mine in woody.
 
  (Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless
 
 
 
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I'm using Pine off my ISP's server so I know this message is text.  
Your mail agent apparently uunencoded the text attachment and made it
unreadable as raw text.  You may want to paste text inline and turn off
any HTML encoding.  I know that Netscape offers you a choice of both or
either text or HTML.  Choose text only!  :-)

My system is also dual boot into either Woody (Debian GNU/Linux)  
or Windows 98SE.  LILO gives me the choice.  I'm also running the bf2.4 or
2.4.18 kernel.  I plan to upgrade to Sarge when it goes stable.  I'm
hoping that the 2.6 kernel and upgrade of Gnome and KDE will give me
better service.  And I also hope to get DSL in my area else that upgrade 
will have to run all night or all day over my dialup connection!  I am 
also still learning my Linux.  Look in the books section of Debian.org and 
get one called a Cookbook.  It is Debian specific and gives you better 
insight into the Debian GNU/Linux system.  Of course, browsing through 
your man and info pages will help with the technical details (and lurking 
on this list will also help).

Enjoy your system and Season's Greetings!
(Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless



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Full replacement of MS

2004-11-29 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless

ken keanon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the folowing:

Hi,

I'm still toying with the idea of fully replacing Windows w Debian 
GNU/Linux.
The doubt I am still having is this: will I be able to use all the data 
that I
had created under Windows, those documents, emails, images, audios and 
videos?
Anyone has done a complete and successful conversion? Will I have to 
start-off
with a dual-OS system and do the conversion via the HD?  Or should I carry 
out
a MS Backup of all these data to a CD-RW and use it for the conversion 
under
LInux? Would like to hear from you.

Cheers

Ken

--  end of quote  ---

I have a dual OS system with Windows 98SE and Debian GNU/Linux.  I put 
woody on a second hard drive.  Since woody can mount a FAT32 filesystem, 
getting to the Windows hard drive is convenient.

Others on the list have Windows XP with the NTFS system.  Since Linux does 
not yet appear to have reliable access to that system, a number of them 
appear to have created an FAT32 partition on their system that lets Linux 
and Windows have a common access area.

I use LILO to give me a menu at boot to select either OS.  For the 
convenience of my wife, it defaults to Windows at present.  But that may 
change as she gets used to Linux!  B-)

HTH,
(Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless



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Re: dual-OS system

2004-11-18 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless

I found this package in stable:

Package: libntfs3 (1.6.0-1)
Library that provides common NTFS access functions.

The Linux-NTFS project (http://linux-ntfs.sf.net/) aims to bring full 
support for the NTFS filesystem to the Linux operating system.

libntfs provides common NTFS access functions for the ntfstools and other 
foreign open source applications.

Please note that the library is still under heavy development and doesn't 
include the majority of functionality yet. It only is capable of just 
about supporting the current ntfstools, so we wouldn't recommend using it 
for your own applications at this stage. 


==

Although I haven't looked in the other branches or done any
googling or looking at backports.org, it looks as if you'll eventually be 
able to write the NTFS on your Windows XP system.  At least you'll be able 
to read it.

I'm running a dual system on a Gateway 500 using Windows 98SE and 
Debian GNU/Linux woody.  The windows partition can be mounted rw under 
/mnt.  The Windows OS cannot see the Linux partitions.

Sincerely,
(Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless



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Re: LILO menu wiped off MBR

2004-11-12 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
That should not have been affected.  Just edit /etc/lilo.conf to include
a suitable stanza pointing at your windows partition and re-run lilo
before rebooting.  If it was only a re-install in the same place, I'd
expect your old lilo.conf to still work.

--
richard
  
Booting into Windows was not a problem.  It's re-establing all the 
programs that have to be in the registry.  I had installed conflicting 
programs and finally had to go the recovery CDROM and blow away the 
Windows directory.  The fix also restored the MBR which wiped out LILO.

Restoring LILO to the MBR (since /etc/lilo.conf was already 
edited) was all that was necessary.  Windows was and is the problem.  As I 
learn to use Debian GNU/Linux, I'll use Windows less and less.  For 
example, I'm learning how to use KMail under woody.

Thanks anyway.  The rest of my questions, being all Windows mess, 
will be directed at the local PC Users Group which run mainly Windows.

Sincerely,
(Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless


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LILO menu wiped off MBR

2004-11-11 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
I just had to reinstall Windows 98 on my Gateway 500 and wiped out 
the LILO alteration to the MBR that lets me also boot into Debian 
GNU/Linux.  I have the Knoppix 3.4 CDROM that would let me get to both 
hard drives.

I'm running woody and just need to rerun LILO to reinstate the 
menu.  I subscribe to the digest but you'll reach me quicker if also 
emailed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks for the quick advice!

Sincerely,
(Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless



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Re: LILO menu wiped off MBR

2004-11-11 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
(reply bottom-posted)

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004, Alexander Schmehl wrote:

 Hi there!
 
 * Gayle Lee Fairless [EMAIL PROTECTED] [041112 00:02]:
  I just had to reinstall Windows 98 on my Gateway 500 and wiped out 
  the LILO alteration to the MBR that lets me also boot into Debian 
  GNU/Linux.  I have the Knoppix 3.4 CDROM that would let me get to both 
  hard drives.
  
  I'm running woody and just need to rerun LILO to reinstate the 
  menu.  I subscribe to the digest but you'll reach me quicker if also 
  emailed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Boot your knoppix.  Mount your / partition.
 
 IIRC knoppix mount's partiotions with the nodev flag.  If it does,
 remount your / partition without the dev flag (e.g. umount /dev/hda3 ;
 mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/hda3 should do the job).
 Now you can run chroot /mnt/hda3 (or whereever you mountet your
 root partition, and now /sbin/lilo.
 Problem solved.
 Oh, you might want to check /etc/lilo.conf (after you run chroot), if
 there is a working other-entry for your Windows.
 
 
 Yours sincerely,
   Alexander
 
 
 
 
I had to do the following:

#mount -t ext2 /dev/hdf1 /mnt

Of course I had to be root to do it.  Now the hard part is cleaning up the 
Windows side!  Oh well, at least Linux is again accessible!

Thank you for your quick response!

Sincerely,
(Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless



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RE: ZIP drive question

2004-08-06 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
(reply at bottom)

On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Forinash, Kyle wrote:

 
 Thanks! I have not yet resolved the issue because I haven't been able to work on it 
 (I've been out of town for two weeks). I'll check out the link next week and see if 
 that helps. I'll post to the listserv if I figure it out.
 
 kyle
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gayle Lee Fairless [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sat 7/24/2004 4:23 PM
 To:   Forinash, Kyle; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: ZIP drive question
 Kyle,
 
 Did you ever solve your ZIP drive problem?  I have a USB ZIP 250 
 drive on /dev /sda4.
 
 Since I am subscribling only to the digest to cut down on volume, I 
 may have missed the resolution.
 
 I downloaded iwlcontainer-lnx-x86-10.tgz from Iomega.  It appears to 
 work for me.  I have not finished working with it, though.
 
 http://www.iomega.com/software/
 
 
  http://www.iomega.com/datahandler/servlet
 
 
 
 I included the URL's with Iomega that I used.  It is possible to go 
 to www.iomega.com and drill down to the download menu.
 
 
 Hope this helps!
 
 (Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless
 
 Linux Gcomm 2.4.18-bf2.4 #1 Son Apr 14 09:53:28 CEST 2002 i686 unknown
 
 
 
 
 iwclcontainer-lnx-x86-10.tgz
 



Kyle,

I also set up sudo to let users on my system use the iw command to 
mount and umount the Zip cartridge.  I'm using this with a USB Zip250 
drive.

There is a jazip package on woody stable that is supposed to work 
with other Zip drives, but it requires libform0.89 which is distributed 
only in binary form (since the source is not released to the public).  
I've downloaded the libform0.89 tarball file from Debian.org but haven't 
installed it.  Even if I download the package I can't test since I don't 
have a SCSI connection on the Gateway 500 (I have a SCSI Zip 100 on my 
Amiga) and don't have ATAPI Zip drive.


Sincerely,
(Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless

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Re: Debian Install with Parellel Support

2004-08-05 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
On my woody system (bf2.4.18) using modconf as root to load the parallel 
port stuff helped.  I also went through the packages list for stable on 
debian.org and downloaded cups, foosamatic, and a few other things that 
looked like they would work with my parallel printer, a HP 697C.  The 
thing that got it working was using the add printer wizard on KDE.  Now I 
just need to tweak the right margin to avoid losing the leftmost printed 
column.  (BTW, how do I do that?)

I have not yet been able to get the HP psc1210 on an USB port working yet.  
Anyway, at least I now have the parallel printer responding to lp
commands.  I wonder if I need to do anything with lpadmin or lpoptions?  
I downloaded a PPD file from a website specifically for the HP 697C.  
Also, there are 2 files for the parallel printer.  I chose the cdj67
something or other (I can't look because I'm doing this from work.) file
that the KDE printer wizard found.  (The wizard gave me a choice of 2 
files to use with the HP 697C parallel printer.)

Sincerely,
(Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless

Linux Gcomm 2.4.18-bf2.4 #1 Son Apr 14 09:53:28 CEST 2002 i686 unknown

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Re: ZIP drive question

2004-07-24 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
Kyle,
   Did you ever solve your ZIP drive problem?  I have a USB ZIP 250 
drive on /dev /sda4.

   Since I am subscribling only to the digest to cut down on volume, I 
may have missed the resolution.

I downloaded iwlcontainer-lnx-x86-10.tgz from Iomega.  It appears to 
work for me.  I have not finished working with it, though.

http://www.iomega.com/software/

http://www.iomega.com/datahandler/servlet

   I included the URL's with Iomega that I used.  It is possible to go 
to www.iomega.com and drill down to the download menu.

Hope this helps!
(Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless
Linux Gcomm 2.4.18-bf2.4 #1 Son Apr 14 09:53:28 CEST 2002 i686 unknown

iwclcontainer-lnx-x86-10.tgz
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Re: optimizing X configuration

2004-06-27 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 I have a Toshiba PII Equium 7000S desktop with 256mb of Ram and an inboard ATI 3D 
 Rage Pro AGP that has 32mb shared memory configured to it. The monitor is a Gateway 
 EV910 and is properly configured in my XF86Config-4.
 
 However I can only do 800x600 with either 16 or 24 bits of depth. I would like to do 
 more. Do I have to buy another video card or is there any way to improve this 
 configuration?
 
 PS: I am not attaching the XF86Config-4 file not to send a bigger email.
 
 Thanks for the help.
 
 
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I have an EV910 monitor on my Gateway 500 running Debian GNU/Linux 
2.4.18-bf2.4 etc.

Would posting my Xfree file help you?

Sincerely,
(Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless



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Re: Newbie installation

2004-06-26 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004, Martin Dowie wrote:

 Hi all!
 
 I'm a first-time GNU/Linux (wanna-be) User although I have some Un*x experience. 
 I've downloaded all 14 Sarge .iso CDs and have happily managed to get a system that 
 will now boot to a command line after installing from CD1. I used the default 
 partitioning for multi-users.
 
 I notice that while booting there are several failures - but the screen is flying by 
 at this point and I can't see what they are. Is there a 'boot log' I can 'cat|more' 
 though?
 
 I'm also now at a lose as to how to install stuff from the other CD's - in 
 particular I would like GNOME as my desktop environmnet and to be able to use my 
 Alcatel SpeedTouch USB ADSL modem. I've searched high and low for a Debian 
 installation guide for dummies but I either find stuff that is more ... for 
 Experts or I find 1,000's of hits that don't really seem to cover what I want. Can 
 someone recommend a link for me as to what to do now?
 
 TIA
 
 -- Martin
Did you try the command dmesg?

Also, look in and roam around /var to look into the log directory.  The 
/etc directory, as you should know, is also interested to explore.

Have fun!

Sincerely,
(Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless



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Re: Hard Drive Limitations

2004-06-23 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Marco Paganini wrote:

 Hi Gayle,
 
  I did not run into the 128 GB limitation because I partitioned the drive 
  into 6 partitions, none bigger than 40 GB.  My smallest partition is 2 GB 
  as permitted by the Western Digital Data Lifeguard utility available off 
  their website.  I got it because I was aware of the 64 GB limitation on 
  fdisk in Windows 98SE.  My success is partly due to divine providence and 
  to some research.
 
 I may be wrong, but IIRC, it's not a partition limitation, but rather the
 geometry of the whole HD!
 
 Regards,
 Paga
 
 
The last partition on the drive is 40 GB in size and formatted as a 
Windows 98SE partition because one of the reasons for getting the second 
drive was that I had run out of room on the 12 GB drive.

I have not seen any problems yet.  So I can't say for sure, then.

Sincerely,
(Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless



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Re: no hard disk drives detected ?!?

2004-06-23 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Andreas Janssen wrote:

 Hello
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
  I'm trying to install Debian 3.0r2 on a Dell PowerEdge 1750
  with a SCSI HDD (IBM/HITACHI 73GB U320).  I get the message
  No hard disk drives were detected.  You either need to
  load special drivers ...
 
 Maybe the installation kernel does not have a driver for your SCSI
 controller. Try the 2.4.18 installation kernel. At the boot prompt,
 type bf24 instead of simply pressing ENTER. Read the instructions
 displayed at the boot prompt to learn more about the various
 installation kernels. If 2.4.18 does not support your controller as
 well, try to get boot floppies with a newer kernel, e.g. from
 
 http://people.debian.org/~taggart/
 
 best regards
 Andreas Janssen
 
 
I ran into a similar problem with the 2.2 kernels.  Only the bf2.4 kernel 
detected my hard drives.

(Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless

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Re: Hard Drive Limitations

2004-06-22 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless


On Tue, 22 Jun 2004, Andreas Janssen wrote:

 Hello
 
 Gayle Lee Fairless ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
  I'm using a Western Digital 160GB drive as a slave.  The master is
  an IBM 14 GB that holds Windnows 98SE.  I put Debian GNU/Linux woody
  2.4.18  on the WD drive.
 
 And that works? As far as I know 2.4.18 does not support LBA48, which
 means that with the Woody kernels you cannot use the full size of that
 disk, because you are limited to 128 GB.
 
 best regards
 Andreas Janssen
 
 
I did not run into the 128 GB limitation because I partitioned the drive 
into 6 partitions, none bigger than 40 GB.  My smallest partition is 2 GB 
as permitted by the Western Digital Data Lifeguard utility available off 
their website.  I got it because I was aware of the 64 GB limitation on 
fdisk in Windows 98SE.  My success is partly due to divine providence and 
to some research.



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Re: wd - Re: Hard Drive Limitations

2004-06-22 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004, Alvin Oga wrote:

 
 On Mon, 21 Jun 2004, Gayle Lee Fairless wrote:
 
   a. Drive is master, no slave
 
 that requires a jumper change on the disk -- or --
 the disk is on the master connector of the ide cable 
 
 cable select might be an issue as you noted 
 
   b. Drive is master, slave present
 
 keeps wd disks happpy, as long as the master disk is
 on the end of the ide cable
 
   c. Drive is slave.
 
 bad idea if it is the only disk, some bios' won't like you
 
   It will not work (on many systems) if you have it configured as a. 
   when there's a slave present. It will not work (on many systems) if 
   you have it configured as b. when there is no slave. There is info 
   about this on WD's website.
 
 c ya
 akvin
 
 
My master drive is on the end of the cable, but that is not the WD drive.  
When installing, the ribbon was clearly marked on the connectors for 
master and slave.  This is a Gateway 500 running a Pentium III at 500 MHZ.  
The other drives are a CDROM mapped to /dev/hdc and an LS120 mapped to 
/dev/hdd which imposes curious limitations on my use of the LS120 as a 
floppy drive in that I cannot format diskettes on it from the Debian Linux 
woody bf2.4 system.



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Re: Another testing vs unstable question

2004-06-22 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004, David Fokkema wrote:

 On Tue, Jun 22, 2004 at 04:01:20PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
  Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
  
  Indeed.  I actually meant my statement to be in support of the stable
  distribution.  I guess I should have made that clearer.
  
  Still, no one benefits from having blinders over their eyes.  Stable is
  the most stable, and it's also the least current.  I don't see how it
  could be any other way.  They're on opposite ends of the same spectrum.
   
  
  
  For me its lack of currency is becoming a serious problem. I'm deploying 
  new systems: do I really want to deploy software that's not going to be 
  supported much beyond a year? Do I really want to go through migration 
  to new releases just after I've got it bedded down?
 
 That's the beauty of stable. It _is_ supported for well over a year.
 Actually, make that two years. The only problem _right now_ is that if
 you go with stable _now_, there is sarge coming. But apart from that,
 stable is supported for years.
 
  No I don't.
  
  My choices are going with testing: what then about security patches? or 
  unstable? From my reading it's not unknown for unstable to be seriously 
  borked for a time: I think new glibc did it a while ago, and gcc was 
  forecast to do it shortly after.
  
  If I want to support a USB Laserjet 1200, then I really need the latest 
  hpoj stuff: Woody is far too old.
 
 Woody is old, but have you looked at www.backports.org? A list of
 well-supported backports is available there. Security updates will be a
 tad slower than unstable, which is behind stable. But then, you're not
 backporting glibc, but imap servers or whatever.
 
  What I find myself doing increasingly is building the occasional package 
  from Sid for Woody: sometimes it's easy, sometimes it's too much trouble 
  (think xfree where I think I found circular dependancies).
 
 Also, see www.apt-get.org for various backports, including xfree. But
 then, www.backports.org also has an xfree backport. Check it out.
 
 David
 
 
How hard will it be to switch or upgrade to sarge from woody when sarge 
becomes stable?  I'm hoping that CUPS and other stuff in sarge will let me 
use my parallel port HP 697C printer and my HP psc1210 
printer/scanner/copier on an USB port.  I also hope to have support for my 
Ethernet card which is a Linksys listed in lspci since I have a local home 
network.

Sincerely,
(Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless

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Re: ls120 Re: wd - Re: Hard Drive Limitations

2004-06-22 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004, Alvin Oga wrote:

 
 
 On Tue, 22 Jun 2004, Gayle Lee Fairless wrote:
 
  My master drive is on the end of the cable, but that is not the WD drive.  
  When installing, the ribbon was clearly marked on the connectors for 
  master and slave.  This is a Gateway 500 running a Pentium III at 500 MHZ.  
  The other drives are a CDROM mapped to /dev/hdc and an LS120 mapped to 
  /dev/hdd which imposes curious limitations on my use of the LS120 as a 
  floppy drive in that I cannot format diskettes on it from the Debian Linux 
  woody bf2.4 system.
 
 that is a different problem than master/slave issue ..
   ls120 is ez or hairpulling ...
 
 make sure your lilo/grub config doesnt specify anything about /dev/hdd
 
 and i would NOT mix ls120 on the same cable as the cdrom
 
 - best way to avoid problems .. 1 widget per ide cable
   - if you insist on using  master and slave devices,
   make sure its from the same manufacturer and same model#
 
 - otherwise, the scsi-folks will be happily smiling :-)
   - but now with 10K and 15K rpm ide disks, it should
   remove one more barrier that ide might be able to 
   keep up with scsi for a fraction of the costs
 
 c ya
 alvin
 
 
 
Actually, I was mixing topics in the same post rather than devices on the
same cable.

The two hard drives are on one ribbon cable.

The LS120 is the floppy drive for the Gateway 500.  It can handle the 
standard 3.5 inch hard floppies and Imation 120 MB SuperDisk.  I doubt 
that it's available anymore.  Because of its difference, it apparently was 
not identified as a floppy drive.  Using makedev (sp?) to roll my own 
device may be another skill that I'll have to acquire!

Sincerely,
(Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless



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Re: Hard Drive Limitations

2004-06-21 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless

John Summerfield wrote:
Ryan Nielsen wrote:
I would like to use a couple of 250GB Western Digitals to backup 
data.  I set up a Debian machine (I have 4 others for other 
purposes), to use as a backup server.  I am having difficulties with 
the drives.  I tried two Maxtors previous and have swapped them out 
thinking it was a bad set of drives.  I get various different errors 
copying files to these hard drives.  I have tried different 
partitioning schemes, rsync instead of cp, and a few other methods, 
but I still get some form of error when I get into the process of 
copying.

My only success has been with Knoppix.  I used Knoppix and was able 
to copy and rsync just fine to these disks.  I would like to use 
Debian, and not have to install another version of Debian or Linux.

What I am getting at is, is there any problem with having a big 
partition or HD on a Debian system, or anything else someone might 
know?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.


You didn't  say what hardware you are running on.
I hate WD drives because there are (ignoring CS) three configuration 
settings you _will_ want.
a. Drive is master, no slave
b. Drive is master, slave present
c. Drive is slave.

It will not work (on many systems) if you have it configured as a. 
when there's a slave present. It will not work (on many systems) if 
you have it configured as b. when there is no slave. There is info 
about this on WD's website.

I will confess I've not tried c. with no master.
Some time ago I had a 120 Gbyte WD that I discovered was LBA48. My 
Athlon system (1.4 Ghz CPU) needed a BIOS upgrade to support this 
drive. I don't recall trying it on an older system: I don't think I'd 
bother plugging in a 250 Gb drive in an older system.

What does work for me is an external USB enclosure. They are 
hot-pluggable and so ideal for backup devices. They're outside the 
case and so don't contribute to case-warming. They have an external 
power supply and so don't add to the drain on the system's ps.

btw I have a USB2 enclosure with a 40 Gbyte laptop drive in it. Two of 
them fit comfortably in my shirt pocket. Very handy for a portable 
Debian mirror. Should be good for installing off too.



   I'm using a Western Digital 160GB drive as a slave.  The master is 
an IBM 14 GB that holds Windnows 98SE.  I put Debian GNU/Linux woody 
2.4.18  on the WD drive.  The LILO menu lets me choose between the 2 OS's.


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Re: Which version?

2004-06-20 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
When I ordered Debian woody i686 CDROM's from a vendor listed on 
Debian.org, I got a set of seven.  The first one gave me a list of 
kernels to try.  I wound up using the 2.4 kernel.  I am now running 
Windows 98SE and Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 woody 2.4.18 on this Gateway 500.

Ethan Vos wrote:
Good afternoon all.
The mirrors that I have looked at have binary-1 through binary-7. 
Which is the correct one to use?

Also, I am using a second HDD for the install. Will the CD ask which 
HDD to use?

Will the install give me way to chose which OS to boot?
Thanks in advance for the help.
Dropout


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Re: Which version?

2004-06-20 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
 have to ask the others here about those 
choices.  I just chose the first one off the list.

   Then I was ready to install Linux.  The boot CDROM gave me a choice 
of kernels.  I had to choose bf2.4 because that was the only option that 
could see my hard drives.  The program cfdisk was used only to 
initialize those partitions on the second drive that I had decided would 
be Linux.  Those partitions will 'disappear' from your Windows Explorer 
or whatever you use for a file manager.  The installation CDROMs let me 
put LILO onto the MBR.  Now when I boot, I have a choice between Windows 
98SE and Linux.  You can customize the LILO menu, but you can save that 
question until after installation.  I needed to 'wife-proof' my menu to 
let the machine boot automatically into Windows after a delay.

(Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless
Linux Gcomm 2.4.18-bf2.4 #1 Son Apr 14 09:53:28 CEST 2002 i686 unknown

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Linux Gcomm 2.4.18-bf2.4 #1 Son Apr 14 09:53:28 CEST 2002 i686 unknown

2004-06-20 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
   I have two HP computers on my Gateway 500 system:  HP 697C (parallel
port) and HP psc 1210 on a USB port.  I found a CUPs and a Ghostscript
tarball files, and printer-magicfilter.tgz.tar during my browsing since 
it might be better to use the
Debian packaging to track this stuff.  The Linux definitely assigns the
HP 697C to lp0.  It  seems only to detect the USB printer.  I also
have  gotten  the  HP-DeskJet_697C-hpijs.ppd  file from the  Internet
where I browsed through Sourceforge and Debian.org.

   I need to finish setting up the printers and the scanners.  Is the 
use of magicfilter entirely different from CUPS and Ghostscript?

   I also need to get my USB Zip 250 drive recognized.  My floppy drive 
is an LS120 which is assigned to /dev/hdd so I cannot format any 
floppies.  However, I can mount an already formatted floppy.  I would 
also like to access Amiga DOS floppies; however, the kernel gives an 
error that says it doesn't recognize it.  I tried to choose vfat, msdos, 
afs, the Mac filesystem during setup.

   It would be nice to be able to use superformat.  Perhaps a script to 
use dd?  Or a custom block device?

   I also want to set up my home Intranet on the Linux system where the
addresses are as follows:
192.168.128.1   Gcomm
192.168.128.2   Windows 98SE machine
192.168.128.3   Commodore Amiga 2000HD
192.168.128.4   Windows XP
The system doesn't seem to recognize my Ethernet card.
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX Host bridge (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX AGP bridge (rev 03)
00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
00:0e.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 06)
00:0f.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Promise Technology, Inc. 20262 
(rev 01)
00:10.0 Communication controller: US Robotics/3Com WinModem
00:11.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 
10/100 model NC100 (rev 11)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 3 (rev 01)

   I appear to have the following modules:
Module  Size  Used byTainted: P 
ppp_deflate38944   0  (autoclean)
bsd_comp3936   0  (autoclean)
ppp_async   6464   0  (autoclean)
tdfx   35064   1
evdev   4544   0  (unused)
mousedev3776   0
parport_pc 25704   1  (autoclean)
lp  6912   0
ppdev   7908   0  (unused)
sg 24452   0  (unused)
msr 1376   0  (unused)
cpuid   1184   0  (unused)
apm 9148   1
dummy960   1
affs   27360   0  (unused)
msdos   4668   0  (unused)
scanner 8480   0  (unused)
printer 5632   0  (unused)
parport21728   1  [parport_pc lp ppdev]
ppp_generic18728   0  [ppp_deflate bsd_comp ppp_async]
slhc4432   0  [ppp_generic]
soundcore   3236   0  (unused)
agpgart29824   0  (unused)
keybdev 1664   0  (unused)
usbkbd  2848   0  (unused)
input   3072   0  [evdev mousedev keybdev usbkbd]
usb-uhci   20708   0  (unused)
usbcore48032   0  [scanner printer usbkbd usb-uhci]

   I haven't tried to use the fax on the Hayes external fax modem on 
COM1.  I installed it since Linux doesn't seem able to use the US 
Robotics internal Win voice modem on COM2.

   I can get to my ISP on the Hayes external modem.
   I am enjoying this new Linux system.  I got tired of the 
inexplicable pauses on Windows.  I missed Unix at work since they 
switched from Unix to Windows.  I purchased the woody CDROMs from Abexia 
which is one of the vendors listed on Debian.org.

  Sincerely,
  (Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless

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Re: charset of ext3 drives

2004-06-08 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
The FS is the last thing I dont understand: if the file name is a double 
wide
charset, how can the file name be stored without loosing information? Do 
you
know what I mean?

It would appear to me that the charset selection only determines 
how the characters will be displayed, wouldn't it?  The filename would be 
only a stream of characters that would not vary although the appearance 
would perhaps change as different charset's were selected.  Or did I miss 
something about the way filenames are stored?

Sincerely,
(Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless





On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, J. Preiss wrote:

  X, DM, KDE: needs proper fonts
  KDE: needs locale set
  mount: as mentioned, the FS doesn't care what encoding you're using :-)
  console: good luck
 
 Seems that I found a bit more infos on my system: I cannot enter cyrillic 
 chars neither in konqi nor in kate. So I installed xfree-cyrillic (a really 
 good idea, but I bet I selected this by first install... anyway).
 
 But if it is a problem of the fonts... why can juk display the song infos 
 correctly 
 
 The FS is the last thing I dont understand: if the file name is a double wide 
 charset, how can the file name be stored without loosing information? Do you 
 know what I mean?
 
 
 


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