RE: newsgroup, instead of mail list?

1998-05-22 Thread Goetzke, Christopher L
 -Original Message-
 From: Gregory Guthrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, May 21, 1998 10:16 PM
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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 Subject: newsgroup, instead of mail list?
 
 
 Given the volume of traffic on this list, I would certainly find a
 newsgroup more convenient. 

FWIW, I'd like a newsgroup, as well.  I'm new to Debian, and I find this
list very helpful.  It's also very high-traffic, and if I have to be
away from my email for a few days (*gasp*!), I'm not sure I'll ever be
able to catch up!  A newsgroup would facilitate finding threads I can
learn from /or contribute to.

$0.02 *cha-ching*!

Chris


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RE: newsgroup, instead of mail list?

1998-05-22 Thread Goetzke, Christopher L
 -Original Message-
 From: George Bonser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, May 21, 1998 10:24 PM
 To: Gregory Guthrie
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 Subject: Re: newsgroup, instead of mail list?
 
 Many people DO read debian-user by newsreader. As a matter of 
 fact, there
 is more traffic in the Usenet version because posts are not 
 gatewayed back
 to the mailing list.
 
 Look for linux.debian.user on a news server near you.

Well, that's what I get for being too quick on the reply key!

My local news server does indeed have linux.debian.user; I'm headed that
way now.  Those of you staying email can argue about whether you want
posts gatewayed back to the list.  ;-)

Chris Goetzke

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RE: slow telnet over ppp (28800 bps)

1998-05-22 Thread Goetzke, Christopher L
 -Original Message-
 From: Ulisses Alonso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, May 22, 1998 6:22 AM
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 Subject: slow telnet over ppp (28800 bps)
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 using http to a remote host works ok, but telneting to the same host
 is horrible slow and not quite interactive friendly

Some of my co-workers have had good luck using ssh with maximum
compression over a dial-up link instead of telnet.  I don't know if
that's possible for you, but it's something to consider.

Although there is probably a more fundamental problem that should be
addressed.

Chris

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RE: X windows, Dselect, and then some...

1998-05-21 Thread Goetzke, Christopher L
 -Original Message-
 From: Athas Nikolakakos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 1998 5:23 PM
 To: Debian User LS
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 Subject: X windows, Dselect, and then some...
 
 
 (1) What is the graphical configuration utility for Xfree86 
 called ( and
 where is it)?

It's XF86Setup.  I don't recall where it lives offhand (and my
computer is in an odd state at the moment, needing re-installs of the MS
OSs on my tri-boot 95/NT/Linux machine; anyway, I can't get to my Linux
partitions right now [under NT]).  XF86Setup is in root's path on my
system, and I don't think I've modified said path.

 (3) Is there a program that will compare packages installed 
 on my system to
 current packages on the FTP site and suggest / download all upgrades?

As has been mentioned, dselect can do this.  Yell if you have problems.

 (4) In dselect I accidentally told it to re-download a file which was
 already on my system.  However the file is 17 megs, and I 
 don't want to
 download it.  Everytime I try to download un-related packages 
 it insists on
 asking me if I want to resume it, then does it any way.

You could fire up dselect  make the offending package on hold, which
is the character =.  When/if a new version comes out, mark it back as
install (*).

Chris

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RE: How to upgrade ?

1998-05-21 Thread Goetzke, Christopher L
 -Original Message-
 From: George Bonser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 1998 7:47 PM
 To: Tony Schonfeld
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 Subject: Re: How to upgrade ?
 
 
 On Tue, 19 May 1998, Tony Schonfeld wrote:
 
  Sorry for this basic question, 
  but to upgrade a package it's simple necessary to use Dselect ,
  but when i want upgrade a distribution by example debian 
 1.3 to 2.0  
  the Base packages are automaticaly upgrade without reboot  with 
  deselect or what is a method ??? 

All right, total Debian newbie question.  Is 2.0 out?  Is it available
at ftp.debian.org?  I'm pretty sure it's not what I'm seeing using
dselect to for the default stable non-free contrib sections.

 If you are comfortable manually ftping packages and installing them
 manually with dpkg -i then you can probably get away with this:

What does this do to dselect?  I assume it's non-harmful, since dselect
is just a front-end to dpkg (it is, isn't it)?

 get the following packages and install them in the order given:
 
 libc5
 ldso
 libc6
 ncurses3.0
 ncurses3.4
 libreadline
 libreadlineg
 bash
 libg++
 dpkg
 dpkg-dev
 dpkg-ftp
 libgdbm1
 libgdbmg1

When I go fishing into hamm for libc6, it says it conflicts with libc5
(which, of course, is on my system), so it won't install.  And libc5 is
kinda important, so I don't want to go ripping it out, right?  So how do
I upgrade?  Is there some magic version of that ldso that lets libc6
slide in next to libc5?

 Microsoft! Which end of the stick do you want today?

Great .sig!

Thanks in advance.

Chris

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