Re: Kernel install problem
Bob McGowan wrote: Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:09:49PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: why do you use /boot/boot/grub/ and not the default /boot/grub/? what is in /boot/grub/menu.lst vs /boot/boot/grub/menu.lst ? Using /boot/boot/grub is necessary when /boot is its own filesystem. Regards, -Roberto Not so. My setup is: $ uname -r 2.6.18-3-686 $ mount|grep boot /dev/sda1 on /boot type ext3 (rw) $ ls /boot/*2.6.18-3-686* /boot/System.map-2.6.18-3-686 /boot/initrd.img-2.6.18-3-686 /boot/config-2.6.18-3-686 /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-3-686 $grep boot /etc/fstab /dev/sda1 /bootext3defaults 0 2 My /boot/grub/menu.lst for the default boot: title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.18-3-686 root(hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.18-3-686 root=LABEL=/root ro initrd /initrd.img-2.6.18-3-686 === NOTE that the path names for the kernel and initrd image DO NOT have a leading '/boot', this is because, for the filesystem on /dev/sda1, these files are 'connected' to the filesystem's 'root', which ONLY becomes /boot/... when the system is up and running, with filesystems from the fstab file mounted. The above was set up automatically, during the install, by the Debian installer. I explicitly selected to have '/boot' be a separate file system. I suspect the OP's problem is, in fact, because of the differences between what the actual setup is and what the dpkg scripts expect. I further conjecture that the original install was with /boot on the root filesystem, and that a later decision was made to change it, with the boot files on a separate filesystem. To fix this, as root: # cd /boot/boot # mv * .. # no hidden files to worry about. # cd .. # rmdir boot # edit /etc/fstab - add/modify line to mount the boot partition, see above example # edit grub/menu.lst - to fix any kernel/initrd paths, removing /boot, see above example # reboot ... # apt-get update Of course, you should make backups of everything, just in case. And, rather than just removing the extra 'boot' directory, you might also want to do 'ln -s . boot', so if there are any residual dependencies on /boot/boot/..., they will automatically resolve to the right place. Bob Thanks for the help. I've have indeed got /boot on it's own partition. I apt installed grub an age ago and it created /boot/boot itself - I thought it a little odd at the time. Perhaps the install scripts weren't very clever way back when it was installed. The machine has been running Debian for a long time - it started out on late 2.2 kernels - and up until now grub has updated fine when a new kernel is installed even with the /boot/boot oddness. I'm wondering if something has changed with the way new kernels are installed. I was actually thinking about retiring the machine any way as it's getting a bit long in the tooth. As it's a server and currently providing some vital network services I can't realistically afford large amounts of down time on it so I think I'll hold off making the changes you suggest. Many thanks though. Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kernel install problem
I tried to do an update this morning and ran into the problem below when it came to installing the kernel. I've looked in /boot/boot/grub/menu.lst and the new kernel 2.6.18-4 hasn't been added (I'm running 2.6.18-3 and that is the top kernel in the list). Any ideas what's gone wrong? dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-image-2.6-486: linux-image-2.6-486 depends on linux-image-2.6.18-4-486; however: Package linux-image-2.6.18-4-486 is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6-486 (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: linux-image-2.6.18-4-486 linux-image-2.6-486 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) A package failed to install. Trying to recover: Setting up linux-image-2.6.18-4-486 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-11) ... Running depmod. Finding valid ramdisk creators. Using mkinitramfs-kpkg to build the ramdisk. Running postinst hook script /usr/sbin/update-grub. Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/boot/grub Searching for default file ... Generating /boot/boot/grub/default file and setting the default boot entry to 0 No GRUB directory found under / User postinst hook script [/usr/sbin/update-grub] exited with value 1 dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.18-4-486 (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-image-2.6-486: linux-image-2.6-486 depends on linux-image-2.6.18-4-486; however: Package linux-image-2.6.18-4-486 is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6-486 (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: linux-image-2.6.18-4-486 linux-image-2.6-486 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NFS locking
Hi, I'm having problems with a couple of applications and reading about the problem indicates its probably caused by locking not working correctly on NFS. The problem seems to lie with the server end of the set up - my guess is that it's not accepting the locks from the client machine. Both the client and the server machines are running the latest nfs kernel server and have statd and lockd running (according to ps). The relevant info from the server is: sprocket:/data# rpcinfo -p program vers proto port 102 tcp111 portmapper 102 udp111 portmapper 1000241 udp 37306 status 1000241 tcp 35125 status 132 udp 2049 nfs 133 udp 2049 nfs 134 udp 2049 nfs 132 tcp 2049 nfs 133 tcp 2049 nfs 134 tcp 2049 nfs 151 udp866 mountd 151 tcp869 mountd 152 udp866 mountd 152 tcp869 mountd 153 udp866 mountd 153 tcp869 mountd sprocket:/data# ps axf | grep lockd 3816 ?S 0:26 [lockd] 8361 pts/0S+ 0:00 \_ grep lockd sprocket:/data# ps axf | grep statd 8394 pts/0S+ 0:00 \_ grep statd 30319 ?Ss 0:00 /sbin/rpc.statd I have another machine that also acts as an NFS server with, as far as I can tell, exactly the same version of NFS running. When I run rpcinfo -p on that machine I see the report above and a number of lines like this: 1000211 udp 1039 nlockmgr which I presume are the lock managers. One of the applications that I am struggling with is Open Office but I have side stepped the locking problem there but turning off locking as per the well known hack. The other application I am struggling with is digikam which flatly refuses to work without locking. If I move the digkam database to the machine that reports nlockmgr everything is fine. On sprocket digikam doesn't work so I assume that the lack of nlockmgr is the problem. Further reading seems to say that lockd starts nlockmgr when it is needed but the server has never started nlockmgr to the best of my knowledge. I'm really stuck at this point as I have tried everything I can think of and Googled till my fingers hurt. Some help would be really appreciated. Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian shutdown
gunnar wrote: I've carried out a network-installation of debian-31r4-i386-netinst.iso and my problem is that I cannot shut it down. The only way of shutting it down seems to be to press the Reset-button, choose my Windows-partition in GRUB and carry out the shutdown from Windows. Thank God for my Windows-partition, without it I would have to pull the plug to shut down Debian. Can anybody tell me a better way of shutting down Debian? Gunnar Sjöö I've had a couple of machines that wouldn't shut down correctly but they were very old and had problems with their power management. Generally they would panic right at the end of the shut down process. Anyway, if a machine is really not responsive (which happens once in a while) you can try: Alt+SysReq+S = Sync Disks Alt+SysReq+U = Unmount Disks Alt+SysReq+B = Reboot or Alt+SysReq+H = Halt (I think) This will minimize the chance of data loss but isn't a long term solution. Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bacula start up issue
Hi, I installed Bacula yesterday which was a painful experience because I mistakenly answered no when it asked me if I wanted to install the database. Anyway, I installed the database by hand, configured Bacula and went to fire it up. Running /etc/init.d/bacula-director start gives me a pid file in /var/run/bacula for the director but a ps + grep for the process id turns up nothing. There are no error messages on start up and there is nothing in the syslog nor the /var/log/bacula directory. The process just seems to silently exit. To confuse me further if I run bacula-dir -c /etc/bacula/bacula-dir.conf as root form a command prompt the director starts fine. If I add the -u bacula -g bacula arguments, as the init script does, then the director fails to start. Any ideas what's going on? Many thanks, Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bacula start up issue
Graham Smith wrote: Hi, I installed Bacula yesterday which was a painful experience because I mistakenly answered no when it asked me if I wanted to install the database. Anyway, I installed the database by hand, configured Bacula and went to fire it up. Running /etc/init.d/bacula-director start gives me a pid file in /var/run/bacula for the director but a ps + grep for the process id turns up nothing. There are no error messages on start up and there is nothing in the syslog nor the /var/log/bacula directory. The process just seems to silently exit. To confuse me further if I run bacula-dir -c /etc/bacula/bacula-dir.conf as root form a command prompt the director starts fine. If I add the -u bacula -g bacula arguments, as the init script does, then the director fails to start. Any ideas what's going on? Many thanks, Graham Replying to my own post but hey I've figured out what the problem was. I had changed the working directory for the director and forgotten to give the baclua user write permission to it. It would have been nice if the director had died in a noisy way rather than silently though. Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: number of machines running Debian?
On Sunday 17 September 2006 04:34, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 01:50:51AM +, Gustavo Franco wrote: FYI, we had more than 1.2 million web servers (yeah, just web servers) running Debian[0] in 2005. If you add Debian web servers not publishing this information, others servers (2 * 1.2, at least?), desktops, embedded and others (3 * 1.2 ?) we've much more than 7.2 million installations running now. Just a guess of course, but i think the exact number is around 10 million. [0] = http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2005/12/05/strong_growth_for_debian.htm l I'd say that is *highly* optimistic. The article says more than 1.2 million active sites. There is a huge difference between active sites and web servers. There are ISPs who manage to server hundreds of web sites from one web server. There are also ISPs like SpeakEasy who host thousands upon thousands of websites from a web cluster (running Debian) which appears like three or four logical hosts to the outside world. Anyhow, if you are conservative and say 10 sites per web server, then you are looking at more like 120,000 actual boxes running Debian to server up public web pages. Regards, -Roberto Although popcon has already been discussed, and valid reasons given for the fact it wouldn't give an accurate total, I think it's worth pointing out that it would give us a fairly good lower bound on the number of people running Debian. The only situation I can think of that would skew the figures is if Debian was installed in virtual machines although in that situation I would say each install counts as a separate machine. We then need to estimate the number of machines that don't run popcon. Hopefully that's a task that lends itself to a better estimation (although it's still hard). Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Strange connection attempts
Hi folks, I've got a little bit of a problem with my main server that has been driving me to distraction. Something is constantly trying to make a connection to an external IP address using the internal interface. The firewall is fairly tightly set up so I get log messages about these attempts such as the one below: Sep 15 10:54:39 compost kernel: Output: IN= OUT=eth1 SRC=192.168.0.1 DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=74 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=1 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=56190 DPT=5353 LEN=54 I have tried and tried to find out what is making these connection attempts but to no avail. I wouldn't mind so much but I get thousands of attempts a day showing up in the log files and I dislike not knowing whats causing them. Can anyone shed any light on this form me? Many thanks, Graham This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strange connection attempts
Quoting Anuradha Weeraman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 9/15/06, Graham Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sep 15 10:54:39 compost kernel: Output: IN= OUT=eth1 SRC=192.168.0.1 DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=74 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=1 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=56190 DPT=5353 LEN=54 UDP port 5353 is being used by mDNSResponder. Also, these appear to be multicast packets and are probably generated by iTunes users on the local network. Nice try but these connection attempts are originating on the server (the internal interface is 192.168.0.1) and no one on the network is using iTunes (in fact at the moment no one is using anything). My guess was some sort of DNS judging by the destination port number. I run Bind and I was wondering if that might be the cause. I've just grepped through the whole of etc looking for 5353 and come up empty. I've also tried netstat -l to no avail. What concerns me is the IP address that it is trying to contact isn't one I would ever use and IIRC isn't in a non-routable block. Thanks, Graham This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: Confused about 64-bit architectures.
On Friday 17 February 2006 10:02, Adam Funk wrote: I'm planning to buy a new home computer soon and am considering Xeon, Athlon 64 and Opteron 64, but I'm not sure about the relevant Debian architectures, ia64 and amd64. Which one applies to which of those processors? I'm also concerned about the potential shortage of 64-bit software for a general-purpose workstation, so I'd like to know what other people think of this. Will I be setting myself up for a lot of hassle? Should I just stick with a Pentium 4 for now? Thanks, Adam Well I can't speak for the other two but I am currently sitting in front of an Athlon 64 machine running the AMD64 port of Debian (Sid flavour). There is no real shortage of software for AMD64 as long as you only use OSS stuff as generally it just needs compiling for 64 bit. There are some exceptions though which you should know about before installing the AMD64 port. At the moment OpenOffice doesn't compile / run as a 64 bit application (well there are some versions floating about but they are still a fair way from entering Sid AFAIK). This means that it has to be run through a chroot which is a pain but not very complicated. If you watch a lot of non-mpeg movies you will also need the chroot to run mplayer with the codec pack. I've never managed to get flash working (no loss there then) and real player can be a problem. Other than that _everything_ I've tried just works on 64 bit. Having said that there is not really any advantage to running the 64 bit port as there isn't any software that makes use of the extra features and the Althon 64 in 32 bit mode is just as fast. The choice is yours, as they say. Hope that helps, Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Confused about 64-bit architectures.
On Friday 17 February 2006 14:42, Adam Funk wrote: On 2006-02-17, Graham Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having said that there is not really any advantage to running the 64 bit port as there isn't any software that makes use of the extra features and the Althon 64 in 32 bit mode is just as fast. Does that mean I can just install Debian i386 on an Athlon 64? Yes. The Althon 64 fully supports i386 through some fancy on chip emulation that is as fast as a native 32 bit chip (I think all the 64 bit processors you mention do this but don't quite me on that). In that case, which kernel flavour would I use? You have a wide range of choices. You can go pure 32 bit and install the standard i386 Debian, you can go mixed and have a 64 bit kernel an 32 bit user space or you can go pure 64 bit. I've never tried a mixed system but apparently it works fine. I'm running the 2.6.15-1-amd64-k8 kernel at the moment which is AMD64 specific. If you are confused just go for one of the generic kernels. Graham Thanks, Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is the best java development and vm ?
As far as the JDK / JRE goes I would stick with the Sun VMs for now. They are fairly easy to install on Debian (Google for debian java). There are plenty of development environments for Java but the two most widely used are eclipse and netbeans. I use netbeans but I am considering switching to eclipse because the netbeans has had various annoying bugs for a while now. Hope that helps, Graham On Thursday 16 February 2006 00:54, Marc Shapiro wrote: Please, no flame wars! I understand that what is best for one person may not be for another. I think that it is time to learn to code in java. Where do I start? I have verified that I do not have javac on my box. In trying to find what package provides javac I came across free-java-sdk. This sounds like it will provide a java compiler, vm, and a bunch of tooks. I am not clear on whether it provides an IDE, or not. Checking apt-cache show implies that I can change my JAVA_HOME environment variable, which makes it sound like this will completely replace j2re1.4.2. Is this correct? Is it a good idea? will this affect running java apps in mozilla-suite, firefox, or opera? I also ran across eclipse, although this does not appear to be packaged for Debian. From what I see at eclipse.org, this would use my existing j2re1.4.2 and WOULD provide an IDE. Is there someplace else that I should be looking? Links to info, or previous posts covering this would be OK. -- Marc Shapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kontact / kmail crashing on start and losing settings
Hi, I'm running AMD64 sid and I am experiencing an exceedingly annoying problem with Kontact. I think the problem is actually Kmail as when I try and run Kmail on it's own I see the same problem. Anyway, the symptoms: When I start Kontact almost immediately exits with a SIGSEGV. It last just about long enough to flash up the window before exiting. Starting it from the command line doesn't really show anything useful (Sorry I forgot to get the output). Repeatedly opening kontact or kmail shows exactly the same behaviour every time. The only way I have found to fix this is to open thunderbird (or another mail client) and move the message in the inbox into another folder (eg delete my spam). Then kmail works fine. Thinking it was choking on one of the messages I tried moving them back into the inbox to see if that would trigger the problem again - it didn't. The most annoying part of the problem, however, is that kmail forgets all of it's per directory settings when this problem occurs such as expiry times, act on new mail in this folder and threaded view. It also has to rebuild it's local cache of messages (the account is on an IMAP server). Having a look at the sizes of the .index files for this account (under ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/imap) seems to indicate that kmail deletes them or empties them when it crashes which I suspect is why the settings are being lost. Does anyone have any idea what is going on? More specifically any idea on how I can stop this happening :o) Cheers, Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: virtual machine
I wrote the page below a couple of months ago. I haven't got round to configuring the accelerator yet though which is why there aren't any instructions for that yet. Installing Windows XP under Debian with QEMU http://www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/xp-under-debian-with-qemu.jspx Hope that helps. On Friday 20 January 2006 13:24, Ismael Valladolid Torres wrote: roberto escribe: is there anyone who has already did it and what has been his/her experience? apt-cache show qemu Altough you'd better download the latest tarball from its web site or compile from CVS. Cordially, Ismael -- Dropping science like when Galileo dropped his orange -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Voice recognition software?
I've just downloaded and compiled up the latest CVS version of sphinx-4. I haven't had much time to play with it but I'm quite surprised how accurate it can be when the number of possible inputs is limited. Unfortunately, I don't have a very good microphone so the quality of my speech wasn't brilliant but even so it was able to pick up numbers and menu entries with a great deal of accuracy. I found that the threshold for starting speech detection was far to high and required me to nearly have to shout to make it listen. If all that was required was picking things from a list / menu / etc I think sphinx-4 would be good enough. I don't think it would be good enough for general purpose speech to text applications (but I don't think any speech to text application comes even close to good enough yet). Graham On Friday 13 January 2006 04:55, Jaime Herazo B. wrote: * A. F. Cano ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: So, let's start this subject rolling, What's the status of speech recognition for Linux these days? I'm afraid things are still pretty much in the might-be-great-someday phase. Last time i checked free software for speech recognition was pretty much inexistent. The sphinx guys have advanced, apparently their latest sphinx version is much, much better than old stuff, but still no dice, and as with such research software some assembly is required (a little bit more that just some in fact). Since there's a debian package for sphinx2 (which i've never been able to use as anything other than an unreliable toy), i think that making a sphinx3.5 package wouldn't be too farfetched, but then again i'm not the mantainer. I'd personally settle for a just-apt-get-it-and-works kinda package that would sit there waiting for the mic and return any words spoken to stdout, just to be able to do some commandline tricks with it or to let it sit on some server to give it commands or to make a debian version of Serial Experiments Lain's Navi computers or just to brag :) The xvoice team was working on replacing their dependence on viavoice by replacing it with sphinx, but i think the project's pretty much stagnant now. IMHO full-blown speech recognition in the free software world isn't too close, since it depends on lots of research that's behind closed doors. If IBM suddenly decided to GPL their viavoice stuff and release free data files (the language models i think it is), we'd have full-blown free voice recognition everywhere within a year later after that, and about 2-3 years later it'd start to really mature as free software, but then again i'm just guessing here. Since they've given lots of support to linux it's probably not too farfetched, but we don't know the internal politics behind it all. --- Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something. Robert Heinlein - Jaime Herazo Barrios/\ jherazo_1999 at yahoo dot com \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign ICQ number: 14721935 X Against HTML Mail, Yahoo! id: jherazo_1999 / \ and News Too -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sound Advice
Hi, I would like to get my sound card working correctly (using all 4.1 speakers) but I can't seem to figure out how. I have a GigaByte GA-K8NXP-SLI motherboard with a built in RealTec ALC850 sound chip. At the moment I get sound but only from 2.1 speakers. I think these drivers http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/dlac97-2.aspx?lineid=5famid=12series=8Software=True#8Unix%20 (Linux) would make it work but before I go and screw up my system trying to get them installed is there a Debian way of installing / setting up these drivers? lsmod shows the following sound related modules are installed snd_intel8x0 35904 0 snd_ac97_codec 88836 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_pcm_oss56544 0 snd_mixer_oss 19072 1 snd_pcm_oss I have a feeling that the first one is actually the correct driver. If it is then how do I get all the speakers working? Many thanks, Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Slow copy
Hi, This is perhaps one of the stranger questions to be asked but I'm looking for a utility that will copy a file slowly. Part of my ad hoc backup system is to copy the nightly backup tar file from our production machine onto another machine. The problem is that the production machine is not exactly what you would call high performance and the file copy basically causes everything else to grind to a halt. It doesn't matter to me that the copy is done in 5 minutes or 50 minutes what matters is that it doesn't kill the server for 5 minutes a day. What I am basically looking for is a version of cp with a max copy rate argument. I would write my own but I can't believe that I'm the only one who has ever wanted this feature so I suspect there is one already in existence. Thanks, Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fwanalog never exiting
Hi, I have been keeping a close eye on one of my systems as it locked up a few days ago. This particular machine runs fwanalog as a cron job. I get a daily email fine but I have noticed what to my mind seems to be bad behaviour by the cron job. The job itself runs are midnight IIRC but at 10 am the next morning it seems to still be running: machine:/var/log/fwanalog# ps axf | grep fwana 29228 pts/4S+ 0:00 | \_ grep fwana 23856 ?Ss 0:00 \_ /bin/sh -c test -x /usr/lib/fwanalog/cron /usr/lib/fwanalog/cron 2 /dev/null 23857 ?S 0:00 \_ /bin/sh -e /usr/lib/fwanalog/cron 24002 ?S 0:00 \_ su fwanalog -c nice /usr/bin/fwanalog 24006 ?SN 0:00 \_ /bin/sh /usr/bin/fwanalog 24008 ?SN 0:00 \_ /bin/sh /usr/bin/fwanalog 24110 ?SN 7:50 \_ analog -G +g/usr/share/fwanalog/fwanalog.analog.conf +V+C -COUTFILE /var/log/fwanalog/alldates.html +g/var/log/fwanalog/fwanalog.analog.conf.gen Is this normal behaviour? The instance of analog that is started by this is also consuming around 10% of the systems memory and a little (10%) of the CPU time every now and then. This doesn't feel right to me. I expected the process to run once at night and then stop not run all the time. Is the base process maybe failing to kill it's children? I don't get much in the way of attacks (around 1500 firewall blocks a day) so it's not like the job would still be running. Thanks, Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Strange hard lock
Hi, Hope you can help me with a rather serious failure on one my machines last night. When I went to access it this morning it was as dead as a door nail. No network activity, not even local keyboard or video - totally dead. I initially thought a kernel oops but having a look at the logs makes me think it might be an out of memory issue. Here's a snippet from the logs: ### LOG SNIPPET ### Dec 6 01:30:47 compost kernel: oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x1d2 Dec 6 01:30:47 compost kernel: DMA per-cpu: Dec 6 01:30:47 compost kernel: cpu 0 hot: low 2, high 6, batch 1 Dec 6 01:30:47 compost kernel: cpu 0 cold: low 0, high 2, batch 1 Dec 6 01:30:47 compost kernel: Normal per-cpu: Dec 6 01:30:47 compost kernel: cpu 0 hot: low 62, high 186, batch 31 Dec 6 01:30:47 compost kernel: cpu 0 cold: low 0, high 62, batch 31 Dec 6 01:30:47 compost kernel: HighMem per-cpu: empty Dec 6 01:30:48 compost kernel: Dec 6 01:30:48 compost kernel: Free pages:3688kB (0kB HighMem) Dec 6 01:30:48 compost kernel: Active:36614 inactive:36018 dirty:0 writeback:0 unstable:0 free:922 slab:3999 mapped:70710 pagetables:1086 Dec 6 01:30:48 compost kernel: DMA free:1328kB min:112kB low:140kB high:168kB active:5624kB inactive:5196kB present:16384kB pages_scanned:14375 all_unreclaimable? yes Dec 6 01:30:48 compost kernel: lowmem_reserve[]: 0 304 304 Dec 6 01:30:48 compost kernel: Normal free:2360kB min:2172kB low:2712kB high:3256kB active:140832kB inactive:138876kB present:311296kB pages_scanned:235254 all_unreclaimable? no Dec 6 01:30:48 compost kernel: lowmem_reserve[]: 0 0 0 Dec 6 01:30:48 compost kernel: HighMem free:0kB min:128kB low:160kB high:192kB active:0kB inactive:0kB present:0kB pages_scanned:0 all_unreclaimable? no Dec 6 01:30:48 compost kernel: lowmem_reserve[]: 0 0 0 Dec 6 01:30:48 compost kernel: DMA: 0*4kB 2*8kB 0*16kB 1*32kB 2*64kB 1*128kB 0*256kB 0*512kB 1*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 1328kB Dec 6 01:30:48 compost kernel: Normal: 88*4kB 7*8kB 12*16kB 7*32kB 0*64kB 0*128kB 0*256kB 1*512kB 1*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 2360kB Dec 6 01:30:48 compost kernel: HighMem: empty Dec 6 01:30:48 compost kernel: Swap cache: add 15070980, delete 15070823, find 13016180/15808735, race 8+53 Dec 6 01:30:48 compost kernel: Free swap = 0kB Dec 6 01:30:48 compost kernel: Total swap = 393584kB Dec 6 01:30:48 compost kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 15517 (postmaster). ### END LOG SNIPPET ### I've never seen anything like that before and there is a lot of it after about 1:30 (the snippet above is the first occurrence). It seems to have systematically killed off processes presumably to acquire more free memory until it killed some vital ones at which point the box keeled over an died. Any idea what has happened? Many thanks, Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strange hard lock
On Tuesday 06 December 2005 10:39, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: * snip * What kernel version? I had something similar and oom-killer was no help in identifying the culprit. This is no help. :-( H It's running Linux compost 2.6.12-1-386 #1 Tue Sep 27 12:41:08 JST 2005 i586 GNU/Linux the machine had been up for 61 days (I checked a few hours before it failed) with no problems and is running Debian testing. Having a closer look at the logs I notice that the first time it killed postmaster but after that it just seemed to repeatedly kill the apache2 process. I see what oom-killer is trying to do but I can't believe for one minute that I was running low on memory (the machine is running quite a few processes but never thrashes the disk). A typical top looks like this: top - 11:14:29 up 2:19, 4 users, load average: 0.04, 0.11, 0.12 Tasks: 143 total, 1 running, 142 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 4.6% us, 1.3% sy, 0.0% ni, 93.7% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.3% si Mem:321792k total, 308852k used,12940k free,15320k buffers Swap: 393584k total, 8340k used, 385244k free,55168k cached Which is a little odd because I thought that machine had 768 MB of ram not the 300 odd that is being reported. Maybe I removed some :o) it's been so long since I opened that box I can't remember. Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strange hard lock
On Tuesday 06 December 2005 11:42, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Graham Smith wrote: On Tuesday 06 December 2005 10:39, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: * snip * What kernel version? I had something similar and oom-killer was no help in identifying the culprit. This is no help. :-( H It's running Linux compost 2.6.12-1-386 #1 Tue Sep 27 12:41:08 JST 2005 i586 GNU/Linux the machine had been up for 61 days (I checked a few hours before it failed) with no problems and is running Debian testing. Having a closer look at the logs I notice that the first time it killed postmaster but after that it just seemed to repeatedly kill the apache2 process. I see what oom-killer is trying to do but I can't believe for one minute that I was running low on memory (the machine is running quite a few processes but never thrashes the disk). A typical top looks like this: top - 11:14:29 up 2:19, 4 users, load average: 0.04, 0.11, 0.12 Tasks: 143 total, 1 running, 142 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 4.6% us, 1.3% sy, 0.0% ni, 93.7% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.3% si Mem:321792k total, 308852k used,12940k free,15320k buffers Swap: 393584k total, 8340k used, 385244k free,55168k cached Which is a little odd because I thought that machine had 768 MB of ram not the 300 odd that is being reported. Maybe I removed some :o) it's been so long since I opened that box I can't remember. Well, again this is no help, but anyway: What does 'cat /proc/meminfo'show? In response to my oom-killer I started my sensor apps to show Free Memory. That doesn't get you any closer because that value floats from the high end to about 10-15MB on later kernels and 3MB on earlier kernels. Do you remember what BIOS shows on memory installed? H I have a sneaky suspicion that I know what the problem is. I think there might be a memory leak in the Java JAI (Java Advanced Imaging) library. Yesterday was the first time I extensively used them on the server. I've got top monitoring the memory usage (M sorted) and so far no problems. What I did notice was that a few hours before going down apache seemed to be having problems serving up content. Randomly bits wouldn't appear like it had just given up. Result of 'cat /proc/meminfo' MemTotal: 321792 kB MemFree: 20804 kB Buffers: 23988 kB Cached: 62792 kB SwapCached: 1904 kB Active: 239588 kB Inactive:39356 kB HighTotal: 0 kB HighFree:0 kB LowTotal: 321792 kB LowFree: 20804 kB SwapTotal: 393584 kB SwapFree: 375960 kB Dirty: 472 kB Writeback: 0 kB Mapped: 229540 kB Slab:15760 kB CommitLimit:554480 kB Committed_AS: 539200 kB PageTables: 2272 kB VmallocTotal: 712624 kB VmallocUsed: 2384 kB VmallocChunk: 709832 kB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Everything SSH related is dead
Hi, Having a touch of trouble with SSH. Anything that goes near SSH fails horribly with a segfault. For instance running SSH at a command prompt gives: Oct 18 14:13:06 localhost kernel: ssh[6763]: segfault at 00014a00432c rip 2ac40817 rsp 7fce6e58 error 4 in the syslog ssh-agent gives: Oct 18 14:07:20 localhost kernel: ssh-agent[6705]: segfault at 000114211b2c rip 2ac40817 rsp 7fdbaa48 error 4 I would like to file a bug report (and fix the problem) but I'm not sure what to file it against. I presume one of the base libraries is at fault but how do I tell which one? I'm running the amd64 version of sid BTW. TIA, Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use old CPUs (Not Debian Specific)
On Saturday 15 October 2005 06:03, Marty wrote: Hendrik Boom wrote: Actually, I've tried using old klunkers to do backups, and discovered that they can't take large hard disks. One of mine won't go beyond about 128 gig, tha other gets stuck somewhere between 2.5G and 80 G. I don't know if it will work for all old machines, but when I ran into that problem I turned off the backup disk in the BIOS, letting linux find it after booting from a smaller disk. That works for me as well. If the BIOS detects the large backup disk in my server the machine wont post. Once it's turned off in the BIOS Linux boots just fine and detects it perfectly. It's been like that for years. Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Misdirected requests - no Host header maybe?
Sorry this request for help is a bit off topic for this group but I am really stuck and could do with some help. If you can't help but know where I might be able to get help I would appreciate a pointer in the right direction. I run a few sites off one static IP address using virtual hosting. Some sites (www.crazysquirrel.com, www.ruralescapes.co.uk and www.shallowsea.com) are Java based and use the Apache Tomcat connector. Others, such as blog.crazysquirrel.com are php based and hosted straight out of Apache (I'm running Apache 2.0 on Debian). All the sites appear to work just fine. There doesn't appear to be any problems with people navigating around them. The problem is with search engines such as Yahoo Slurp and Googlebot. A large number of requests for pages that are in one of the other domains are ending up at blog.crazysquirrel.com. My best guess is that for some reason Slurp and Googlebot are making requests but leaving off the Host header. Now this wouldn't be completely out of spec because they are making HTTP 1.0 requests and as such don't require a Host header. I would have expected, however, that every request from them would come with one since virtual hosting is now so common. It briefly crossed my mind that it was simply a probe to detect virtual hosting but there are way to many requests going astray (more go astray than the real sites actually get) therefore I conclude something must be wrong. A little more digging seems to indicate that the search bots are able to load the first page (say http://www.shallowsea.com/index.html) but then start screwing it up when trying to access the links they find in that page. For example here is a little snippet of log file from yesterday for blog.crazysquirrel.com. These is are page requests that should have gone to shallowsea.com 66.249.66.34 - - [12/Oct/2005:14:08:47 +0100] GET /events.html?change-category=7resource-name=event HTTP/1.1 404 209 - Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html) 66.249.66.34 - - [12/Oct/2005:14:09:14 +0100] GET /links.html?change-category=51resource-name=link HTTP/1.1 404 208 - Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html) in the shallowsea.com log I find this: 66.249.66.34 - - [12/Oct/2005:14:07:09 +0100] GET /events.html?change-category=60resource-name=event HTTP/1.1 200 7073 - Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html) 66.249.66.34 - - [12/Oct/2005:14:09:50 +0100] GET /links.html?change-category=54resource-name=link HTTP/1.1 200 7547 - Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html) note the times of these requests. It is fairly obvious that the Googlebot is trying to index shallowsea.com but for some reason about half the requests are going to the wrong domain. Has anyone got any idea what might be going on here? I'm perfectly happy to accept that there is some header that I should be sending back that I am not but that doesn't feel like it's the problem as some requests seem to get through fine. Many thanks, Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use old CPUs (Not Debian Specific)
On Friday 14 October 2005 19:03, Marc Shapiro wrote: Like I said, I don't have enough space in the new apartment to set up multiple computers, but I dislike having computing power going to waste. Can anyone suggest a way to network/connect all four to possibly distribute the load among them? I am considering building a custom case to hold all the MBs and only have a single monitor, mouse and keyboard connected. The case would, obviously, have to be fairly large, but it could then act as a table, as well, so the space would still be more efficient than four seperate cases which serve no othere purpose. I love my old computers as much as the next guy but the 486's would have to be skipped. Perhaps use one as a firewall but I fail to see any real use as a desktop machine. The PII is probably just about fast enough - it depends what you are willing to put up with I suppose. If you want to turn them into a table I would just chock up the cases so they are all the same height and lay a sheet of wood over the top. I don't see much point in building an actual case for them as it will be a significant amount of work for little gain. Especially so if you don't have a work shop in which to make it. Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use old CPUs (Not Debian Specific)
The problem is there is a world of difference between doing up and old car as a hobby and trying to use a 486 as a desktop machine. Your old Model T is never going to do 60MPH or have air con but that is understood from the outset. If the intention is to save some computing history go for it. Otherwise scrap them and save up for a half way decent machine. Just my two €0.02 Graham On Friday 14 October 2005 20:53, Craig M. Houck wrote: Here. here. I quite agree in particular with #3. Repair, Refinish, Rebuild and Reuse. I'm suspect there are a few more Re's. And when something is truly I mean truly at EoL. Its bonfire time (excluding stuff that produces toxins when heated). OK sometimes that stuff too if the fire will be big enough. 1) 200 bucks all at once may not be a feasible outlay. 2) some of the older software may run just fine on the older machines (a newer one won't make the software run better). 3) I find something satisfying about computer resurrection that I don't get by taking them to a recycling centre. That goes for a lot of stuff folks do with old things like: fixing the old '69 Mustang in the garage instead of junking it, collecting/reading musty old first edition books instead buying the newest repring, refinishing furniture instead of hitting up IKEA, maybe pruning very old trees. 4) This is what the OP decided to do, presumably after ruling out purchasing any new machine. It's only cheap if your time isn't worth anything? Which is a statement that could be applied to any hobby or sport or (fill in the blank). Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] RbtBotL Craig - oBU SysAdmin /|\ 607 777 6827 ^ Tot Ziens
Re: How to use old CPUs (Not Debian Specific)
On Friday 14 October 2005 21:45, Marty wrote: Graham Smith wrote: The problem is there is a world of difference between doing up and old car as a hobby and trying to use a 486 as a desktop machine. You're ignoring the uses in between those two extremes. For example, why use a modern machine, which uses 3 or 4 times the power, just for a firewall or backup server? As you will see in an earlier post I had mentioned using one of the 486's as a firewall. I hadn't thought of using it as a backup server but that's a good idea. Having said that though, personally, I would use the PII as the firewall, backup, file server etc etc. The new fast machine as the family desktop and ditch the other two. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: webserver logfile analiser (php site)
On Monday 10 October 2005 15:57, Gabe Granger wrote: Does anyone have any good suggestions about good webserver logfile analisers. Specfically when it comes to website written in php? I'm currently using webdruid and webalizer but these can not report back anything more then the fact the file.php has been accessed / read. I need to be able to get more information back from the log analiser. Any good suggestion would be great, many thanks. Gabe awstats is fairly good and simple. It seems to get updates now and then so can spot most spiders etc. As another poster hinted at it can be a bit of a pig to set up. The setup file is huge and fairly complex having said that though, once you have a configuration you like on one site it's simply a matter of copy and paste for the other sites. Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: support for amd64?
On Tuesday 30 August 2005 03:15, Bruno Buys wrote: Thanks Alan, No openoffice.org for amd64 can be an issue, really. I didn't know that. Also, I don't have mirrors close to me. So, I guess 'keeping an eye' is the right movement, for now. You own a amd64 machine? Does it run too hot? Here in Rio we have like 35 Celsius this month, which is supposed to be winter. In the summer we go easily to 40 C. Heating is always a concern. Regards, I've been running a pure64 box for the last few months. Basically everything that I want is available and works just as it does for x86. The most notable exception is the lack of OOo which is a pain but it is fairly easily overcome with a chroot. Of course a chroot means that you have to update two systems but it is relatively easy to install. Flash is missing from pure64 as well although to be quite honest I like it that way ;o). I might get round to installing mozilla in the chroot one day. xine works fine under 64 bit and you can watch dvd's. With some work you can also use the 32 bit windows codecs, again, from in the chroot. As for heat problems with a64; my office regularly hits 35 (or more) in the summer and my A64 doesn't seem to mind. It does run a little warm for my liking but it is using only the stock heat sink. Graham Bruno Alan Ianson wrote: On Mon August 29 2005 06:09 pm, Bruno Buys wrote: I was trying to figure out how good is debian support for amd64. Will it stand, in the long run? I do regular internet/email/writing stuff, as well as multimedia editing with marillat's software. I enjoy having a huge software archive, as is the x86 case. Will I suffer under amd64? Any insights? Why is there a 'pure64' dir on debian archives? Is it different from amd64? It will stand quite well I think. 90+ % of debian i386 is running fine on amd64. There are a few packages missing (like cdrdao) but they will be along soon. The merillat archive for amd64 isn't nearly as big as it is for i386, at least not yet (I did see a big amd64 experimental merrilat archive in my travells but haven't looked at it in any detail yet). I'm just keeping an eye out for now. I am no expert on the matter, I don't maintain any amd64 stuff I just use it, but from what I can see it may be a while before amd64 has the same multimedia support that i386 has. There is also no flash player for amd64 (or win/64 for that matter) or openoffice.org. I have both amd64 and i386 installed so I go back and forth as needed, or you can also chroot into a different root (I don't have much experience with that). I'm not sure why there was amd64 and pure64 before, but I think there is only pure64 now. AFAIK that is what Sarge amd64 r0a is but that would probably be best answered by someone else. The info I have about it is scattered and incomplete. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pgadmin and libwxgtk
Hi, I would really really like to use pgadmin3 but there is, and has been for ages, a problem with dependencies. When I try and install it I get this Depends: pgadmin3-data but it is not going to be installed Depends: libwxgtk2.5.3 (=2.5.3.2) but it is not installable Ok. The data package is available but libwxgtk2.5.3 isn't. What is available, however, is libwxgtk2.6-0. Now correct me if I'm wrong but that should fulfil the dependency surely? Has anyone tried forcing the install? I would rather not do it but pgadmin is a very useful piece of software when developing a DB app. Are there any other decent postgres admin tools because using psql is becoming boring? TIA, Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pgadmin and libwxgtk
On Tuesday 30 August 2005 15:33, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 03:27:52PM +0100, Graham Smith wrote: Hi, I would really really like to use pgadmin3 but there is, and has been for ages, a problem with dependencies. When I try and install it I get this Depends: pgadmin3-data but it is not going to be installed Depends: libwxgtk2.5.3 (=2.5.3.2) but it is not installable File a bug (Important or Serious, I am not certain which) against pgadmin, or see if one is already filed. libwxgtk2.5.3 has not been available in the archive for a long time. There is already a bug report. I've added my 2p worth for what it's worth. The wheels seem to be grinding rather slowly for this bug though which was why I was wondering about forcing the install. I'm surprised it has been left so long actually I would have thought pgadmin was quite widely used. Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lame server
Hi, I'm seeing loads of these types of message from Bind Aug 29 13:40:35 sever named[7713]: lame server resolving '181.162.65.222.in-addr.arpa' (in '181.162.65.222.in-addr.arpa'?): 202.96.209.5#53 Aug 29 13:40:53 server named[7713]: lame server resolving '101.63.195.81.in-addr.arpa' (in '63.195.81.in-addr.arpa'?): 195.34.32.83#53 Aug 29 13:44:33 server named[7713]: unexpected RCODE (REFUSED) resolving 'dns-noc.zjhzptt.net.cn//IN': 202.96.104.18#53 by loads I mean 10 to 20 a minute for about an hour. They come in groups with an IP address being repeated 4 or 5 times then another one is tried. I am at a loss to figure out what is doing so many reverse look ups. Can someone help me find out what it is? Perhaps it's nothing but I'm interested to know. I'm running testing and the Bind server is only a local caching DNS with all external ports firewalled off. There are only two machines on the network so there shouldn't be that much traffic. Thanks. Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Drawin program like CorelDRAW
On Saturday 27 August 2005 16:12, Paolo Pantaleo wrote: I am looking for a drawing (vectorial) program, i read about: Sodipodi Skencil Karbon14 Any other? Any suggestion about which is better? PAolo What you are looking for is inkscape :o) It has a basic but good range of features and is stable. There are tutorials that while maybe a little short for a complete beginner show you all the basics. Save formats are a little short on the ground IIRC. Pretty much only SVG and PNG but there are loads of converters around. Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
blind spot for java
Hi, I know this might seem a little strange but my system seems to have developed a blind spot for Java. I have a JDK installed in /usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/ when I attempt to execute [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/bin/java I get bash: /usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/bin/java: No such file or directory which is quite plainly wrong as the file most certainly does exist and has execution rights. I have another (very slightly older and 64-bit) version of Java installed via java-package which works fine but I need to get this one working. Any ideas what might be wrong? All the other applications seems to be working fine. I have re-installed the JDK and tried other versions and all produce the same message. This is a long shot I know but I am using the 64bit debian port and this is a 32bit VM it is therefore relying on some libraries provided by the 32bit chroot. It was working fine yesterday but I also upgraded the chroot yesterday. I'm wonering if the two could be linked. The problem is that it just doesn't seem to even find the java file to get. TIA, Graham. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blind spot for java
Thanks for the pointer. The problem, though, is not getting Java installed; I have it installed and I am using the 64bit linux version as I write. The problem is that a 32bit VM that I use (because the 64 bit version doesn't have a client mode) has for some reason stopped working. I am concerned that it claims the file is not found when it is, plain as day, sitting there on the disk and is displayed with ls -l with all the right permissions. My initial thought was I had some how been rooted but I have run chkrootkit and that doesn't seem to be the case. I also think that it would be a strange root kit that took out only 32bit JVMs on AMD64 :o) Graham On Friday 26 August 2005 11:52, Bill Day wrote: It took me a couple of times to notice I had a slight typo in my setup before I reeally relaized what was going on, once I slowed down and double checked my install from( http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-java-faq/ch11.html ) all went quite well. On Friday August 26 2005 7:32 am, Graham Smith wrote: Hi, I know this might seem a little strange but my system seems to have developed a blind spot for Java. I have a JDK installed in /usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/ when I attempt to execute [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/bin/java I get bash: /usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/bin/java: No such file or directory which is quite plainly wrong as the file most certainly does exist and has execution rights. I have another (very slightly older and 64-bit) version of Java installed via java-package which works fine but I need to get this one working. Any ideas what might be wrong? All the other applications seems to be working fine. I have re-installed the JDK and tried other versions and all produce the same message. This is a long shot I know but I am using the 64bit debian port and this is a 32bit VM it is therefore relying on some libraries provided by the 32bit chroot. It was working fine yesterday but I also upgraded the chroot yesterday. I'm wonering if the two could be linked. The problem is that it just doesn't seem to even find the java file to get. TIA, Graham. -- Bill Day A rich man isn't always wealthy, he just has all the love he can give and ever wanted.. http://counter.li.org #384146 284016 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blind spot for java
On Friday 26 August 2005 13:10, Kent West wrote: How 'bout showing us the output of ls -l /usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/bin/java? Here's mine: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk ls -l /usr/local/jdk1.5.0/bin/java -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 64492 Sep 15 2004 /usr/local/jdk1.5.0/bin/java Well if you show me yours I suppose I have got to show you mine ;o) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/bin$ ll total 3160 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 72760 2005-08-26 12:21 appletviewer -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 71600 2005-08-26 12:21 apt -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 4153 2005-08-26 12:21 ControlPanel -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 71600 2005-08-26 12:21 extcheck -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 1080 2005-08-26 12:21 HtmlConverter -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 71632 2005-08-26 12:21 idlj -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 71600 2005-08-26 12:21 jar -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 71600 2005-08-26 12:21 jarsigner -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 64492 2005-08-26 12:21 java ... snip more progs ... [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/bin$ ./java -version bash: ./java: No such file or directory foo is a member of group staff but the problem is the same if I try and run it as root. Odd isn't it? Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blind spot for java
On Friday 26 August 2005 13:47, Kent West wrote: Try performing some other action on the file, such as renaming it. Yep I can rename it. -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 64492 2005-08-26 12:21 javarenamed # ./javarenamed -su: ./javarenamed: No such file or directory Also try it from a different shell (tcsh, etc). I've never switched shell before so here's my best guess at how to do it (I feel like a complete noob now :o)) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/bin$ tcsh foo:/usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/bin ./java ./java: Command not found. foo:/usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/bin ls -l -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 64492 2005-08-26 12:21 java foo:/usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/bin exit exit [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/bin$ sh sh-3.00$ ./java sh: ./java: No such file or directory sh-3.00$ exit exit [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/bin$ csh foo:/usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/bin ./java ./java: Command not found. Looks like it doesn't work in any shell. I have tried moving the JDK install to another location on the disk as well (to under /var/local) and no joy their either. Graham -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blind spot for java
On Friday 26 August 2005 13:30, Kai Grossjohann wrote: Graham Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: bash: /usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/bin/java: No such file or directory This message makes you think that /usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/bin/java does not exist. But that is sometimes wrong. Look if this file is a shell script. If so, look at its shebang line and fix it if necessary. (If you have a script /bin/foo that starts with #!/bin/bar, but you don't have /bin/bar, then you'll get a message /bin/foo: No such file or directory, but the truth is that it is the file /bin/bar that's missing...) Kai Cheers, Unfortunately I had thought of that and the java file in question is a binary not a shell script. Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blind spot for java
On Friday 26 August 2005 14:34, Tim Ruehsen wrote: Hi Graham, - make shure, that file is not a symlink. It should tell you if you do 'ls -la'. nope it's not a symlink - make shure that not one of the directories has obscure permissions. drwxr-xdrwxr-xr-x 12 root root 4096 2005-08-22 16:17 usr drwxrwsr-x 11 root staff 4096 2005-08-26 12:21 local drwxr-sr-x 9 root staff 4096 2005-08-26 12:21 jdk1.5.0_04 drwxr-sr-x 2 root staff 4096 2005-08-26 13:51 bin don't think there is anything odd there You could (as root) copy the java file into /tmp and try to execute it there. Does it work? Nope, same error message. If not, maybe the file is corrupt. Very very unlikely. Could only be corrupt if it became corrupt when I copied it over from the server. The exact same JDK runs fine on the server (a 32bit testing machine). Interestingly though the install won't run on this machine either (it too runs fine on the server). The installer fails to create the jdk1.5.0_04 directory. Try things like 'file java' $file java java: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped or 'ldd java', this looks bad $ldd java /usr/bin/ldd: line 171: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: No such file or directory ldd: /lib/ld-linux.so.2 exited with unknown exit code (127) I just forgot: make shure, you don't have an alias in your shell. Try 'alias' in your bash. $alias alias la='ls -A' alias ll='ls -l' alias ls='ls --color=auto' Many thanks for the help so far. I suspect the fact ldd failed has something to do with the problem but I'm just taking an educated guess there. Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blind spot for java
On Friday 26 August 2005 14:43, Hendrik Boom wrote:
Then maybe it's a shared library that's missing? I had a problem like this
years ago with Modula 3. There's some kind of command (strace ? -- I
forget the name; I use it so rarely) that will trace all the system
calls while your program is starting up (and thereafter). That might
make it clearer what file it is complaining about.
Well I gave it a shot. I don't know what the output means but it doesn't look
like it provides much more information.
#strace -otrace.txt ./java
strace: exec: No such file or directory
#cat trace.txt
execve(./java, [./java], [/* 18 vars */]) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
dup(2) = 3
fcntl(3, F_GETFL) = 0x8002 (flags O_RDWR|O_LARGEFILE)
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFCHR|0600, st_rdev=makedev(136, 1), ...}) = 0
mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) =
0x2aac3000
lseek(3, 0, SEEK_CUR) = -1 ESPIPE (Illegal seek)
write(3, strace: exec: No such file or di..., 40) = 40
close(3)= 0
munmap(0x2aac3000, 4096)= 0
exit_group(1) = ?
Thanks,
Graham
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Re: blind spot for java
On Friday 26 August 2005 14:37, Kai Grossjohann wrote:
What happens when you do
strace -f /usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/bin/java
In another post there is a strace without the -f option here is one with it.
# strace -otrace.txt -f /usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/bin/java
strace: exec: No such file or directory
# cat trace.txt
11050 execve(/usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/bin/java,
[/usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/bin/java], [/* 18 vars */]) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
11050 dup(2)= 3
11050 fcntl(3, F_GETFL) = 0x8002 (flags O_RDWR|O_LARGEFILE)
11050 fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFCHR|0600, st_rdev=makedev(136, 1), ...}) = 0
11050 mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0)
= 0x2aac3000
11050 lseek(3, 0, SEEK_CUR) = -1 ESPIPE (Illegal seek)
11050 write(3, strace: exec: No such file or di..., 40) = 40
11050 close(3) = 0
11050 munmap(0x2aac3000, 4096) = 0
11050 exit_group(1) = ?
Can you do java -version?
Nope.
/usr/local/jdk1.5.0_04/bin# ./java
-su: ./java: No such file or directory
Graham
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Re: blind spot for java
On Friday 26 August 2005 15:32, Kent West wrote: Graham Smith wrote: On Friday 26 August 2005 14:34, Tim Ruehsen wrote: or 'ldd java', this looks bad $ldd java /usr/bin/ldd: line 171: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: No such file or directory ldd: /lib/ld-linux.so.2 exited with unknown exit code (127) What's the result of ls -ld /lib/ld-linux*? # ls -ld /lib/ld-linux* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2005-08-22 16:17 /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 - ld-2.3.5.so I note the lack of /lib/ld-linux.so.2 my ld.so.conf contains # cat /etc/ld.so.conf /usr/X11R6/lib # chroot i386 system libs /var/chroot/sid-ia32/lib /var/chroot/sid-ia32/usr/lib /var/chroot/sid-ia32/usr/X11R6/lib /var/chroot/sid-ia32/usr/local/lib running the ls _inside_ the chroot shows the required file to be present. # ls -ld /lib/ld-linux* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2005-08-25 18:12 /lib/ld-linux.so.2 - ld-2.3.5.so -- Kent West Technology Support /A/bilene /C/hristian /U/niversity -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blind spot for java
On Friday 26 August 2005 15:46, David Jardine wrote: Cheers, Unfortunately I had thought of that and the java file in question is a binary not a shell script. You haven't got an invisible character (space, for example) at the end of the name by chance, have you? I.e java . Nice try but nope. Thanks, Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blind spot for java
On Friday 26 August 2005 15:42, Tim Ruehsen wrote: or 'ldd java', this looks bad $ldd java /usr/bin/ldd: line 171: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: No such file or directory ldd: /lib/ld-linux.so.2 exited with unknown exit code (127) Here we go. Let's concentrate on this. Normally, /lib/ld-linux.so.2 is a symlink to e.g. (on my SID system) /lib/ld-2.3.5.so. So try ls -la /lib/ld-*, and see if the file that the symlink points to exists. Just to show you the output on my system: blitz-lx:~# ls -la /lib/ld-* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 90028 Aug 19 14:43 /lib/ld-2.3.5.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root11 Aug 22 14:36 /lib/ld-linux.so.2 - ld-2.3.5.so # ls -la /lib/ld-* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 97904 2005-08-20 00:03 /lib/ld-2.3.5.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root11 2005-08-22 16:17 /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 - ld-2.3.5.so Hmmm I wonder if this is has something to do with the upgrades going on in unstable at the minute. Shouldn't this line /var/chroot/sid-ia32/lib from ld.so.conf have pulled in the required ld-linux.so.2 link? Graham Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blind spot for java
On Friday 26 August 2005 15:55, Kent West wrote: I'm a little hazy on the chroot; is your ./java command failing to be found while in chroot, or while not in chroot. If while in, that seems odd, as the symlink is there. If while not in, I'd just create a new symlink: ln -s /lib/ld-2.3.5.so /lib/ld-linux.so.s should do it. It was failing outside the chroot (in the host system). I created the symlink as you suggested and all is now working again. The question is though how did the original link go missing? This was working fine yesterday after I upgraded both the host system and the chroot. I wonder if something only changed when the machine was rebooted. I know that the chroot under went the C++ upgrade yesterday so maybe that was it but I wouldn't have thought that could remove the symlink in the host system. Anyway. Many thanks. Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blind spot for java
On Friday 26 August 2005 15:56, Michael Marsh wrote: On 8/26/05, Graham Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $file java java: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped Crazy question: You are trying this from the 32-bit chroot, right? $ldd java /usr/bin/ldd: line 171: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: No such file or directory ldd: /lib/ld-linux.so.2 exited with unknown exit code (127) Is this missing from your chroot? Of course, if it were, then /bin/ls wouldn't work either. I'd guess this is where the real problem is. If there's a statically linked version of java available, you might give that a try. Thanks for all the help. I've got it working now. It was simply a matter of making this link in the host system ln -s /var/chroot/sid-ia32/lib/ld-linux.so.2 /lib/ld-linux.so.2 fingers crossed that doesn't break anything else though. I have been do all of this diagnosis from the host system with the exception of the one ls -ld /lib/ld-linux* command that I ran in the 32 bit chroot to see if I had ld-linux.so.2 in there. I haven't had a problem with this set up before and the 32bit JVM seems quite happy running like this. Perhaps I should move it into the chroot though. There are no statically linked versions of Sun Java to the best of my knowledge. Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dead mantis
On Tuesday 23 August 2005 13:45, Graham Smith wrote: Hi, I have just upgraded my mantis bug tracking database but it has died during the upgrade. Whenever I visit any page that requires database access (basically all of them) I get the error message: Fatal error: main(): Failed opening required '/usr/share/mantis/gui/core/adodb/adodb.inc.php' (include_path='.') in /usr/share/mantis/gui/core/database_api.php on line 26 I think this might have happened with a previous upgrade as well but I don't remember how I fixed it and no amount of tinkering seems to have fixed it. Any ideas how I can fix this? Many thanks, Graham. For those wondering I have found the solution. Someone beat me to the bug report. The bug report indicates that this only affects unstable but it also affects testing. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=323914 Solution: A symlink is created in /usr/share/mantis/gui/core to ../../../adodb which has moved to ../../../php/adodb. Simply delete the existing symlink and add a new one e.g. cd /usr/share/mantis/gui/core rm adodb ln -s ../../../php/adodb . Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)
* kernel 2.4.27 was installed in my box. It's been a suprise since in Fedora i'm running kernels 2.6.x. Why this 2.4 kernel? Does Debian consider 2.6 kernels unstable? I'd like to upgrade my kernel; how can i do it using apt-get? I've wondered why a 2.4 kernel is installed by default as well when 2.6 has been out for so long. It's easy to install a 2.6 kernel with apt though. It's just like installing any other package. Grub (or lilo) will be updated automatically in most cases. * I noticed too that Debian runs XF86 instead of Xorg, as Fedora does. Why this? What are the differences between them? Is video hw support better in Xorg? Are there any licensing issues with Xorg? Try running testing or unstable on your desktop machine which will switch you to Xorg. You will find them both generally quite stable. Stable in Debian is very stable. Testing is, I would say, about the same as other distributions releases. Unstable is quite workable and is what I and everyone I know uses. A word of warning before you switch though. You might like to switch to testing now and then to unstable in a couple of months. There are some big changes coming though unstable at the moment with some breakage occurring. After running Debian in my mail server for some time, i think that it can be a really good choice for a production server, but what about desktop? For the moment, i think i'll keep Fedora... or maybe not, if someone gives me good reasons :) See above. Debian unstable is as good for the desktop as any distribution that I have used. If your a KDE person we should have KDE 3.4.2 in a month or two. Gnome has just under gone an upgrade but damned if I know what to ;o) Graham Thanks for your kind attention. I'll be waiting and will appreciate your answers and opinions. Alf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dead mantis
Hi, I have just upgraded my mantis bug tracking database but it has died during the upgrade. Whenever I visit any page that requires database access (basically all of them) I get the error message: Fatal error: main(): Failed opening required '/usr/share/mantis/gui/core/adodb/adodb.inc.php' (include_path='.') in /usr/share/mantis/gui/core/database_api.php on line 26 I think this might have happened with a previous upgrade as well but I don't remember how I fixed it and no amount of tinkering seems to have fixed it. Any ideas how I can fix this? Many thanks, Graham. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)
On Tuesday 23 August 2005 14:36, Daniel Ramaley wrote: On Tuesday 23 August 2005 03:06 am, A. Lanza wrote: i've been running Fedora linux for about 3 years now but... i wanted to explore Debian as well. Recently, i had to set up a mail system and i installed Debian Sarge on an old Pentium 3 machine with 128 MB of RAM. The new(?) Sarge installer is quite good and i had no problems to set my system up from a net-install CD. apt-get is just *great*, i usually use an apt-get port for Fedora as my package manager tool. I just switched to Debian less than a year ago after being a long time Red Hat user (the first Red Hat i installed was 3.0.3). Welcome to the club! If you like apt-get, try aptitude. It has most of the same command line switches, plus a curses GUI that almost makes package management fun. For and alternate GUI package manager try synaptic. Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All kde menu entries gone
Hi, Sigh. I know that there are likely to be problems with with unstable, especially at the moment, but could anyone tell me how I could get back my kde menu entries. The whole application menu system in the kicker (I think thats what it's called - the equivalent of the start button on windows) has vanished. At the moment I have the logout, run command, lock and quick browse entries but nothing else. I really don't have a clue where to start on this one. KDE configuration seems to be a bit of a black art :o) Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: All kde menu entries gone
On Saturday 20 August 2005 13:48, Kent West wrote: Graham Smith wrote: Hi, Sigh. I know that there are likely to be problems with with unstable, especially at the moment, but could anyone tell me how I could get back my kde menu entries. The whole application menu system in the kicker (I think thats what it's called - the equivalent of the start button on windows) has vanished. At the moment I have the logout, run command, lock and quick browse entries but nothing else. Same here. I just consider things like this a part of running unstable; I figure it'll get fixed within a few days; in the meanwhile, I've switched over to Icewm. -- Kent Thanks for the help so far. I have found out what is wrong though. Have a read of this bug report and thread http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=323747 http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2005/08/msg00177.html seems it is related to the transition to KDE 3.4.2 and the upgrade of the cpp libraries. Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Missing device node
On Thursday 18 August 2005 18:15, Graham Smith wrote: Hi, I seem to be missing a device node but I am unsure as to how I should get it back. I have a machine that has just two ide devices the hard drive and an old DVD drive. There is a device node /dev/hda that corresponds to the HD but not /dev/hdc for the DVD drive. This latter node has only disappeared since I upgraded to kernel version 2.6.12 (two days ago). I suspect, although I have no evidence for this, that is has something to do with udev as that is the only important thing that start working AFAIK when I upgraded from 2.6.11. The machine certainly seems to be able to find the drive at boot time as this extract from dmesg shows Probing IDE interface ide0... hda: Maxtor 6Y120L0, ATA DISK drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 Probing IDE interface ide1... hdc: CREATIVE DVD-ROM DVD6240E, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 ... hdc: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM drive, 512kB Cache, DMA Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20 I am running the amd64 unstable port and have udev and hotplug installed. Any ideas what is wrong? Graham This problem seems to have fixed itself with an upgrade of the udev library to 0.068-1. Don't know if this is _actually_ why the node has reappeared but it has. Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Missing device node
Hi, I seem to be missing a device node but I am unsure as to how I should get it back. I have a machine that has just two ide devices the hard drive and an old DVD drive. There is a device node /dev/hda that corresponds to the HD but not /dev/hdc for the DVD drive. This latter node has only disappeared since I upgraded to kernel version 2.6.12 (two days ago). I suspect, although I have no evidence for this, that is has something to do with udev as that is the only important thing that start working AFAIK when I upgraded from 2.6.11. The machine certainly seems to be able to find the drive at boot time as this extract from dmesg shows Probing IDE interface ide0... hda: Maxtor 6Y120L0, ATA DISK drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 Probing IDE interface ide1... hdc: CREATIVE DVD-ROM DVD6240E, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 ... hdc: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM drive, 512kB Cache, DMA Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20 I am running the amd64 unstable port and have udev and hotplug installed. Any ideas what is wrong? Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kaffeine and slow audio
Hi, I have a bit of a problem with audio in kaffeine when playing a dvd and was wondering if anyone else has seen this problem. The audio is very slightly (1 or two seconds in every 10 minutes) slower than the video. It starts off alright and then slowly slips out of sync. Pausing and restarting re-syncs it (when I pause I hear the audio catch up). I have done a little investigation work and I think I know why it happens but I don't know what is causing it - if you see what I mean. When I play a dvd though xine on its own everything is fine and the load average is around 0.3 when I play a dvd though kaffeine the load average is 1.3 with kaffeine reporting about 30% processor time. I think therefore that the problem lies with kaffeine somewhere but need more information before I can fix the problem or submit a useful bug report. Any ideas what might be wrong? I'm running the AMD64 port of unstable. Thanks, Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox Segmentation Fault
On Tuesday 26 July 2005 20:36, Andreas Fester wrote: A segmentation fault occurs when an application tries to access memory it is not allowed to access (similar to an access violation on other OSs) I had guessed that was probably what it was. I'm a Java developer (no laughing :o)) so things like that just don't happen. http://www.steadfastequipment.com/ The page is incompatible with Debian, because it requires a Windows Media Player plugin ;-) Oh that would be it then :o). Seriously though it's not only that page that causes FF to die there are plenty of pages containing only HTML that it chokes on as well. It just happens every time with that one. Which Debian version are you using? Sarge, Testing, Unstable? Which firefox version are you using? I am currently using 1.0.4, but there is already the 1.0.6 in unstable. Did you upgrade any other packages which firefox depends on, like libpng, libjpeg or something similar? I don't believe I forgot to give this most basic diagnosis info. I'm using the pure64 port of unstable running FF 1.0.6. As for other libraries being updated maybe I haven't paid that much attention to what was getting updated. The box is up to date as far as new packages are concerned. Anyway following the great instructions given here is the first part of the stack trace generated when visiting the page given above: #0 0x2b5b7d25 in raise () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 #1 0x00cf8954 in nsIDirectoryServiceProvider2::GetIID () #2 signal handler called #3 0x2aaab0dab2bb in NPP_SetWindow () from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/kaffeineplugin.so #4 0x2aaab0dab799 in Private_SetWindow () from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/kaffeineplugin.so #5 0x0062d585 in nsISupportsArray::GetIID () #6 0x006460cf in nsIDirectoryServiceProvider::GetIID () #7 0x0063ad1f in nsISupportsArray::GetIID () #8 0x008fd826 in nsIComponentRegistrar::GetIID () #9 0x008fed7c in nsIComponentRegistrar::GetIID () #10 0x008f6d64 in nsIComponentRegistrar::GetIID () ... Many thanks for the help. Graham -- .¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`· Shallow Sea Aquatics .¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`· .¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯ http://www.shallowsea.com ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`
Re: Firefox Segmentation Fault
On Wednesday 27 July 2005 10:28, Graham Smith wrote: I forgot to mention, when I shutdown FF (rather than let it crash) it spits out this error message (all on one line) Cutting log (size: 102170, max: 10)Component returned failure code: 0x80470002 (NS_BASE_STREAM_CLOSED) [nsIFileOutputStream.write]Component returned failure code: 0x80470002 (NS_BASE_STREAM_CLOSED) [nsIFileOutputStream.write]Cutting log (size: 102170, max: 10)Error cleaning up log: Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsISeekableStream.seek] presumably this is something to do with the log file but I have had a poke around under ~/mozilla (which is where firefox seems to keep it's stuff) and there is no log file. Graham -- .¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`· Shallow Sea Aquatics .¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`· .¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯ http://www.shallowsea.com ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`
Re: MS Project 2003
Unfortunately taskjuggler isn't packaged as a .deb because I would be interested in having a look at it. It seems there was a shot at packaging it a while ago but it's not been touched in an age. Might have a go at compiling unless someone knows of a .deb source. On Tuesday 26 July 2005 05:37, Bradley Alexander wrote: There was something similar called TaskJuggler, but I don't know whether or not it will read/write Project files. As someone said, Project is a beast, and I don't know if TJ is up to that level yet, since I haven't looked at it in over a year. On Monday 25 July 2005 22:15, Rajiv Vyas wrote: Thanks. On 7/25/05, Michael Z Daryabeygi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anders Breindahl wrote: On Tuesday 26 July 2005 02:19, Rajiv Vyas wrote: Are there any free software that would open MS Project files? Rajiv Have you tried `less`? Why are you picking on (perceived?) newbies? That's not funny. I'm pretty sure he needs more functionality than that. And I know from his other thread that he is doing his best to get away from M$, so we should genuinely try to help him. Project is a beast that I am afraid to learn. But I would be interested to know if anyone has tried it in wine. Regards, Anders Breindahl. OT: My apologies to Rajiv Vyas for clobbing up his/her mailbox. Why is reply-to not debian-user? Didn't it use to be? try looking in the archives for the reply-to question. We only just went around on this. Just reply-all and delete the sender. cheers -- ~,~`~,~`~,~`~,~`~,~`~,~`~,~`~,~`~,~`~,~`~,~`~,~` Michael Z Daryabeygi Database Applications Developer Sligo Computer Services Co-op www.sligowebworks.com http://www.sligowebworks.com 301.270.9673 x 304 ~,~`~,~`~,~`~,~`~,~`~,~`~,~`~,~`~,~`~,~`~,~`~,~` -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- .¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`· Shallow Sea Aquatics .¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`· .¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯ http://www.shallowsea.com ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`
Firefox Segmentation Fault
Hi, My firefox keeps dieing with a segmentation fault. First question is: what's a segmentation fault? Second: what can I do to find out what is causing it and fix it? There doesn't seem to be any particular cause although I think it is related to page rendering. Going to this page http://www.steadfastequipment.com/ makes it fail every time but it seems fairly random. The problem started today but I don't remember seeing firefox get updated today. I suspected for a while that it was animated gifs that were causing the problem but that doesn't seem to be the case as I tested it on plenty and it didn't fail but it did fail on a page without any gifs. Many Thanks, Graham -- .¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`· Shallow Sea Aquatics .¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`· .¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯ http://www.shallowsea.com ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`
USB Pen / Thumb / Keyring Drive
Hi, I was just given a small USB pen drive and would like to get it working with Debian. I am sure you are probable thinking Oh god not another n00b that can't mount a drive but thankfully you would be wrong. I don't have any problems mounting the device but it feels very clunky compared to Windows where you just stick the drive in and hey presto it's there ready to be used. What I would like it something that will just automagically mount the drive. I have installed the usbmount package (which I presume is the same as usb-mount) but it doesn't seem to do anything. It's created /media/cdrom and /media/usb directories but that is it - it doesn't mount the drive when I plug it in. I am running KDE on Debian unstable and certain sites seem to indicate that one can get KDE to create an icon on the desktop when a usb drive is plugged in. Basically I'm interested to know what are my options are? Many thanks, Graham -- .¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`· Shallow Sea Aquatics .¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`· .¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯ http://www.shallowsea.com ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`
iptables natting
Hi folks, I've got a bit of a problem with setting up forwarding on my firewall and I can't seem to figure out what I am doing wrong. I have a tomcat server running on port 8080 on a machine in my network. I have set up the following rules so that the outside world can get to it: iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o eth1 -d 192.168.0.10 -p tcp -j ACCEPT iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth0 --dport 8080 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.0.10 the outside world can now contact that machine on port 8080 (I don't like the forwarding rule that much it feels to open I tried to restricted it to just port 8080 with the --dport option but it would seem you can't use that on the forward table). Anyway, this natting / forwarding is in place because I am developing against another server which needs to contact me at one point. At the end of the process the server sends a redirect to a web browser but the redirect always fails on my machine. That's not very clear so here is the course of events 1)client (me) is at my website 2)client is redirected by my website to other website 3)other website contacts my server (this is fine so forwarding / natting is working) 4)other website redirects client back to my server 5).. nothing happens .. I do get a bunch of these appear in the log but adding a forwarding rule that lets this through doesn't solve the problem. Jul 12 13:33:44 server kernel: IN=eth1 OUT=eth1 SRC=192.168.0.10 DST=192.168.0.10 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=63 ID=31478 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=46062 DPT=8080 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 I think the problem is that the redirect is to my public IP address and I am on a machine inside the network. I'm pretty sure that if I was outside the network this would work fine. Thanks for any help. -- .¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`· Shallow Sea Aquatics .¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`· .¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯ http://www.shallowsea.com ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`
Re: iptables natting
| iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o eth1 -d 192.168.0.10 -p tcp -j ACCEPT | | iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth0 --dport 8080 -j DNAT | --to-destination 192.168.0.10 Change this to: iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth0 --dport 8080 -d YOURPUBLICIP -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.0.10 which will apply the rule only to incoming connections to your public IP. Ok, that's changed. 192.168.0.10 is trying to make a connection to 192.168.0.10 on port 8080 and that's being rejected by your firewall. Is 192.168.0.10 on the same machine as the firewall? No it's a different machine to the firewall and isn't running iptables itself. That's why I don't understand why it doesn't work. The message appears on the server machine and eth1 is the internal interface. Any attempt to contact http://publicipaddress:8080/ is rejected if it comes from inside my network but works fine if the connection comes from outside. -- .¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`· Shallow Sea Aquatics .¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`· .¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯ http://www.shallowsea.com ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`
Sound not working
Hi, I've got a bit of a problem with sound on my system. It works in most applications but not all. As it was Friday I decided to install a few games and oddly enough sound doesn't work in any I have tried so far for instance NeverBall and TuxRacer. Now I think the problem might be that they are trying to use OSS where as I (think at least) am using alsa. I have installed also-oss as it looked like it might make things work but no joy. I have included the results of lsmod below if that helps. Any ideas what might be wrong? Sound is one of those areas that just seems to be a black art to me. TIA, Graham lsmod | grep snd snd_intel8x0 35456 4 snd_ac97_codec 82384 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_ioctl3228096 0 snd_pcm_oss55968 0 snd_mixer_oss 19520 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm95372 5 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_ioctl32,snd_pcm_oss snd_timer 25160 2 snd_pcm snd57256 13 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_ioctl32,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer soundcore 11232 1 snd snd_page_alloc 11144 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm System Spec Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-K8NXP-SLI Video: Gigabyte GV-NX66T128VP Sound: On Board (8 Point Surround) AC97 Compatible Network: On Board (2 * Gigabit Ethernet, 1 * Wireless) Processor: AMD Athlon64 939 3000+ Venice Memory: 2 * Corsair XMS 512MB PC3200 C2 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound not working
Cam wrote: Hi, is there an error regarding sound when you start the game? I would think it's probably more likely that the sound daemon is tied up by esd or something. look for errors like '/dev/dsp: resource busy'... if that's the problem you could try installing the libsdl-esd package. good luck, Cameron Matheson NeverPutt gives neverputt Sound disabled TuxRacer (ppracer now) gives ppracer PPRacer 0.3.1 -- http://racer.planetpenguin.de (c) 2004-2005 The PPRacer team (c) 1999-2001 Jasmin F. Patry[EMAIL PROTECTED] PPRacer comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions. See http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html for details. %%% ppracer warning: Warning: Couldn't set 44100 Hz 16-bit audio Reason: No available audio device As for libsdl-esd it doesn't exist but I did notice the libsdl1.2debian-* packages. I had the (* = oss) oss package installed. I tried installing the all package (* = all) which removed the oss package and everything seems to now be working. I wonder what was wrong? Thanks, Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: About blackdown
Tong wrote: On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:01:56 +0100, Alan Chandler wrote: Obviously all this from standard debian packages if that is possible I've noticed that many of the answers for this thread suggest to avoid the blackdown. Any justification for that? The reason I'm asking is that I asked a similar question a while ago, and got a suggest to use blackdown. I was just about to give it a try. Here are the quotes from the original suggest: ,- | I am using blackdown j2re1.4, it works. | | [...] | | the blackdown j2re1.4 works perfectly fine, but it's not DFSG free software | due to licensing conditions imposed by Sun. | | There are other projects to create a real free software java platform, but | they are not finished yet. | | [...] | | The sun system is a reasonable alternative, but if I understand correctly it's | essentially the same as the blackdown system anyway, blackdown port java to | linux for Sun (and us). And it's packaged for debian... `- Thanks I believe that the blackdown VM was used as the basis for the first VM on Linux but that was a few years ago now and things have moved on. The blackdown VM is still being updated AFAIK but isn't at 1.5 levels yet (after you have used generics you wouldn't want to go back). You could probably use blackdown for web development but I doubt you could use it for gui work. Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Setting up a Java development environment the debian way.
Alan Chandler wrote: I have decided the time has come to learn java and use it to develop some web based applications. In particular I have a family tree project I want to conduct. I am a complete newbie as far as java is concerned. I have two debian environments. Server: Runs Sarge - and is running Apache2 and Postgres. I will want the ultimate application to run on here (on Tomcat?) and provide its UI via the web site and use Postgres database to store its data. Apache runs several virtual hosts - one is my current external web site for http: access, and also a separate one for https: access I also run two internal (to my lan web sites). Since I want my relatives to be able to add information to my family try from external - I will use one of them for my production version of the application (depends on security controls I decide to adopt). I will also run the development version of the application on one of the internal web sites. Workstation: Runs Debian Unstable with KDE as my desktop. So my questions are: 1) What tools do I need to develop the application. This includes code editiing, build environment, unit testing, I tried to setup eclipse on my workstation but there are unsatisfied dependencies (java runtime?). [Assume I can choose my configuration management environment - subversion probably (and especially if its integrated into an IDE) - but I am also considering others] 2) What run time environment [I am assuming from my current position of ignorance that I want to develop servlets and jsp pages for this application]. Obviously all this from standard debian packages if that is possible I realize that I am about to become really unpopular here but... (if you're prone to knee jerk reactions I would stop reading now if I were you) avoid the open source Java implementations like the plague. I tried one (inadvertently) about 6 weeks ago and I was surprised how much was implemented. Unfortunately I ran into a bug in the implementation that cost me a lot of development time and it has put me off the open source VM's for good. As far as the closed source VMs go I would recommend you go for the latest Sun VM. It's fast (for Java) and stable. If you bought a book on Java make sure it covers the changes in Java 1.5 (Java 5) as there were quite a few - some of which are rather nice. On the development environment front you have two choices Ecplise or NetBeans. I use netbeans as it is better, IMHO, for web development (built in tomcat, junit testing, and ant build scripts) but a lot of people like eclipse. Running netbeans is easy. It comes with a graphical installer or you can just grab the tar ball and just unpack it where ever you want (I stick mine in /usr/local). You can choose the VM used by netbeans with the --jdkhome flag eg: /usr/local/netbeans-4.1/bin/netbeans --jdkhome /usr/local/jdk1.5.0_03 As for installing Java I recommend using java-package. It's quick and easy and seems to work with all the modern VM packages. You might also like to install the command line ant from the Debian package. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apache 1.3 to 2.0 migration
Almut Behrens wrote:
On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 11:44:02AM +0100, Lee Braiden wrote:
On Saturday 18 Jun 2005 11:42, Kevin Coyner wrote:
I now have a need to switch to apache 2.0 (have started using python
and cherrypy in my sites, the latter of which does have more
functionality under apache 2.0).
Are they any special gotcha's that I need to watch for in the
migration process? I plan to apt-get install apache 2.0 using port
8080 alongside the existing 1.3, which uses port 80. Once I get the
httpd.conf settings tweaked and all works o.k. on port 8080, I'll
uninstall apache 1.3 and set 2.0 to listen on port 80 and be done.
Will this work?
I think that'll work fine, yes. Apache 2 splits its config into separate
files, in /etc/apache2/modules-{enabled,available}
and /etc/apache2/sites-{enabled,available}.
In addition, be sure to skim over the general (not debian-specific)
changes documented in
http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/upgrading.html
http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/new_features_2_0.html
Otherwise, I'd just migrate (alongside a working 1.3 install) to find
out what does no longer work... Depending on how complex your config
is, a few minor tweaks might be needed. In that case, have a look at
the docs specific to the module that the error seems to be related
to... (e.g. things like the directive SuexecUserGroup for mod_suexec
replacing User/Group directives in virtual host sections).
Cheers,
Almut
I got caught out by register_globals it is set to on in the default php.ini
for Apache 1.3 but off in the default php.ini for Apache 2
you might also need to run
dpkg-reconfigure php4-pgsql php4-mysql
to make things like phpbb work again.
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[Bit OT] Printers
Hi, Sorry for the slightly off topic nature of this question but I thought this was probably the best place to ask it. I'm looking to get a half way decent laser printer for my (very) new small business. If possible I would like colour but if a sufficiently good black and white is available for the right price I will take that as it will mostly only be printing packing sheets. Ideally the printer will live as a separate device on the network but if that isn't an option I am happy enough to run it through cups. In my ideal world it will also have a duplexer or at least be able to accept one. Finally, it _must_ be well supported by Debian (testing) - hence the reason for posting the question here - although I suppose if it's a network connected PS printer that wouldn't be such an issue. I would prefer new and I was hoping to pay up to around 300 ($600). Many thanks for your sage advice. Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Bit OT] Printers
how about putting 'linux' and 'printer' into a search engine, you may find something like http://www.linuxprinting.org/ which tells you what works with Linux (but not Debian/testing specifically) Personally, I've a Brother HL-5150D which does duplex and wasn't expensive but I do have some problems printing PDFs (the duplexer insists that it has to be A4 paper and I've obviously not got all the CUPS foomatic perfectly set up to do this for all possible PDF files) Michael Cheers, I like to think that I am normally pretty good about doing a google search before asking a question but for some reason it just didn't cross my mind this time. I'll put it down to a really nasty migraine that is, shall we say, distracting me. Anyway, I'll go and have a look around linuxprinting.org now. Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: partition magic-ally
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 03:21:57PM +0100, Graham Smith wrote: When I first tried out the new installer yes I did read what documentation was available (the version of the installer I used was a pretty early release so I thought it would be worth mugging up on it) but I admit that the couple of times I have used it recently (in the last month) I didn't read the documentation before diving in. While it would be nice to live in a world where everyone sat down and read all the documentation before proceeding few of us actually have time to do that. IIRC the problem was that the various different pseudo partitions and their interaction with real partitions wasn't very well explained. I think I was also confused about whether or not I could boot off a LVM partition. That is all explained in the LVM-HOWTO. Sorry, but LVM is an advanced tool and concept. Jumping in without reading documentation is not really a good idea. That is sort of like complaining becuase you can't get your C++ program to compile when you haven't bothered to at least read a book on it. While I would like to submit a bug report it would be of little use now as it was to long ago for me to remember exactly what was wrong and I didn't take notes at the time. Hopefully there is someone from the installer group reading this thread. What would have been nice was a I-want-to-use-LVM-but-I-can't-be-chuffed-to-learn-about-it-right-now-so-just-give-me-something-sensible button. But hey we can't have everything we want. The problem with LVM s that there is no sensible default. It is very dependent on your hardware and other configuration options. There are so many permutations that would not be feasible to do that. It is a little different with standard partitioning because the only decision to be made for a normal user is size. With LVM it depends on whether you want your root on LVM, if you are or are not using RAID and various other things. -Roberto I agree that LVM is complex, of that there is no doubt, but I completely disagree that there isn't a sensible default for a good portion of the machines it's installed on. The installer already detects free space and asks if it should install Debian in to it. Why can't it just ask another question along the lines of would you like me to set up LVM in this space?. I fully realize that this wouldn't be good enough for everyone because it doesn't take into account raid arrays or exotic set-ups so there will always be a need to control all aspects of the set-up. For the average workstation, however, with just one HD that may also contain one other OS (which you have to agree is a common machine) there has to be a sensible default. If you don't believe me just imagine the default set to whatever you would use in that situation - you obviously know a lot about this topic so you will likely choose something that is pretty good. Just because something is complex doesn't mean that people who don't _fully_ understand it shouldn't be able to use it. That is like saying that you can't drive a car unless you can strip and rebuild the engine. Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Top posting
I'm not saying I'm right and I often bottom post to not annoy people but I have to try and convince you to switch. Who died and left you to rewrite the English language? No one. I ask you the same question though? As far as I can see bottom posting has as many advantages and drawbacks as top posting. There is very little between them. One of the biggest arguments for bottom posting is maintaining context when reading an archived thread. I don't remember the last time I didn't go back to the start of an archived thread when I have found something I am interested in. What with trimming, inlining and a mixture of top and bottom posts the context is nearly always lost in any individual post so going back to the start of the thread is normally necessary. I find starting at the beginning of a thread also, normally, gives me more information about the problem I am trying to solve. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache PHP Pains, oh the pain!
Derek Wueppelmann wrote: So I've been trying to figure out why when I upgraded from Woody to Sarge (now stable whu-hoo) my Apache system got all fubar'd. Here is what I'm seeing. When accessing the page: http://beta.monkeynet.ca/misc.php I have no problems. However if I try to access http://beta.monkeynet.ca/ or http://beta.monkeynet.ca/index.php I'm getting a save as dialog for a file type of PHTML. The really interesting thing is that if I go to http://beta.monkeynet.ca/? or http://beta.monkeynet.ca/index.php? I don't get this save as page. Can anybody shed some light as to why this would be happening. I have tried numerous things to get thsi to work but to no avail. I have tried upgrading to apache2 and then back down to apache. I tried having the deb package build a brand new httpd.conf file but still not working. I've gotten so completely frustrated with this, so any help would be appreciated. The link http://beta.monkeynet.ca/index.php works fine for me. I have had this exact problem as well but I stupidly didn't write down the solution (I do remember that it was extremely frustrating though). IIRC it's a browser problem and a good clean out of the browser cache should fix it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: partition magic-ally
If you have not yet installed, then don't worry about it. The installer lets you choose LVM as an option. Then you can add your harddrive as a physical volume and then make it the logical volume. From there you can create volume groups, which are analogous to partitions but can be resized at will. The installer walks you through the whole process very nicely. -Roberto I have to disagree with the last statement (The installer walks you through the whole process very nicely). I've recently installed 2 Debian machines using the new installer. Both times I thought about using LVM because of it's advantages so I selected that option to have a look at it. It just confused the hell out of me to the point where I gave up and did a numpty single partition ext3 install (/ and swap separate). It's a shame because I would have really liked to have tired LVM. I would say that is the one weak point in an otherwise great installer. Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: partition magic-ally
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 12:28:44PM +0100, Graham Smith wrote: If you have not yet installed, then don't worry about it. The installer lets you choose LVM as an option. Then you can add your harddrive as a physical volume and then make it the logical volume. From there you can create volume groups, which are analogous to partitions but can be resized at will. The installer walks you through the whole process very nicely. -Roberto I have to disagree with the last statement (The installer walks you through the whole process very nicely). I've recently installed 2 Debian machines using the new installer. Both times I thought about using LVM because of it's advantages so I selected that option to have a look at it. It just confused the hell out of me to the point where I gave up and did a numpty single partition ext3 install (/ and swap separate). It's a shame because I would have really liked to have tired LVM. I would say that is the one weak point in an otherwise great installer. Did you read the docs prior? Because I really had no problem with it. I'm not sure what confused you. Did you file a bug a against the install-reports pseudopackages? It would have helpped the installer developers to improve it. -Roberto When I first tried out the new installer yes I did read what documentation was available (the version of the installer I used was a pretty early release so I thought it would be worth mugging up on it) but I admit that the couple of times I have used it recently (in the last month) I didn't read the documentation before diving in. While it would be nice to live in a world where everyone sat down and read all the documentation before proceeding few of us actually have time to do that. IIRC the problem was that the various different pseudo partitions and their interaction with real partitions wasn't very well explained. I think I was also confused about whether or not I could boot off a LVM partition. While I would like to submit a bug report it would be of little use now as it was to long ago for me to remember exactly what was wrong and I didn't take notes at the time. Hopefully there is someone from the installer group reading this thread. What would have been nice was a I-want-to-use-LVM-but-I-can't-be-chuffed-to-learn-about-it-right-now-so-just-give-me-something-sensible button. But hey we can't have everything we want. Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Top posting
Lech Karol Pawaszek wrote: On Thursday 09 of June 2005 22:13, Mike Ward wrote: [...] Afterall, I honestly never had heard of 'top-posting' before until now, but just this gentle reminder means that at least one occasional user is now posting more 'correctly'. Hooray! :-) If you would like to post even more 'correctly' - please read Netiquette RFC (also known as How to behave on the internet) which is right here: http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html or at least 3.0 One-to-Many Communication (Mailing Lists, NetNews) section. TIA. Regards, I know that this will put the cat amongst the pigeons but I actually prefer top posting. I've been reading newsgroups and mailing lists for years and I have always thought that bottom posting was the wrong way to do it. I understand the reasons why bottom posting is supposed to be better but if I am following the thread, which is normally the case if I'm actually reading it, then I find it quicker to read just the top section of each post rather than having to scroll down past everything I've already read. There isn't a problem with context because I can remember that from one post to the next. If the author wants to quote a section of the previous post they can in the extreme they end up inlining their post. I'm not saying I'm right and I often bottom post to not annoy people but I have to try and convince you to switch. Graham PS Have you noticed that there aren't many people who are top posting zealots? I wonder why. Maybe tops posters are just more relaxed and chilled out people. :o) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Strange KDE Problem
I have recently started experiencing a strange problem with KDE whereby for some unknown reason it switches to Gnome (while I'm logged in - I didn't think that was possible). The most obvious sign that this has happened is the background picture set under KDE disappears and the right click on the desktop is ignored (no menu pops up). I get no messages in /var/log/syslog when it happens. I'm running the pure64 port of sid with KDE 3.3.2. I think, but I can't confirm this because it doesn't happen every time, that it has something to do with Open Office or the chroot it is running in. I say this because the problem seems to occur after I start Open Office (it might just be the screen saver though but it seems more common with OO). I have my /home NFS mounted which is then bound into the chroot as is a /data directory. /data holds the background picture and is accessible to both the main system and the chroot (in other words it's not an NFS problem). Any ideas? Thanks, Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Strange KDE Problem
I have recently started experiencing a strange problem with KDE which causes the background picture to disappear and the right click on the desktop to be ignored (no menu pops up). I get no messages in /var/log/syslog when it happens. I'm running the pure64 port of sid with KDE 3.3.2. I think, but I can't confirm this because it doesn't happen every time, that it has something to do with Open Office or the chroot it is running in. I say this because the problem seems to occur shortly after I start or stop Open Office (it might just be the screen saver though but it seems more common with OO). I have my /home NFS mounted which is then bound into the chroot as is a /data directory. /data holds the background picture and is accessible to both the main system and the chroot (in other words it's not an NFS problem). Any ideas? Thanks, Graham -- ..`..` Shallow Sea Aquatics ..`..` ..`.. http://www.shallowsea.com .`..` -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strange KDE Problem
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 03:33:37PM +0100, Graham Smith wrote: I have recently started experiencing a strange problem with KDE whereby for some unknown reason it switches to Gnome (while I'm logged in - I didn't think that was possible). The most obvious sign that this has happened is the background picture set under KDE disappears and the right click on the desktop is ignored (no menu pops up). I get no messages in /var/log/syslog when it happens. I'm running the pure64 port of sid with KDE 3.3.2. I think, but I can't confirm this because it doesn't happen every time, that it has something to do with Open Office or the chroot it is running in. I say this because the problem seems to occur after I start Open Office (it might just be the screen saver though but it seems more common with OO). I have my /home NFS mounted which is then bound into the chroot as is a /data directory. /data holds the background picture and is accessible to both the main system and the chroot (in other words it's not an NFS problem). Any ideas? Make sure you are not accidentally starting nautilus. It will happily take over your session. I have had this happen to me in WindowMaker. -Roberto Ok that's a little odd. I found nautilus running but I didn't start it. I suppose some other application must have started it for some reason (I presume OpenOffice did it). Killing nautilus hasn't brought my desktop back. I checked to see if I had openoffice.org-gtk-gnome installed and I didn't (I have the KDE pack installed). Any ideas of how I can stop this from happening because it's really annoying? PS Sorry if you got the original question 4 times. Not sure what happened there. I originally posted it with the wrong (non-subscribed) email address and presumed it would get dumped but it just showed up. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lilo to grub conversion
Alex Malinovich wrote: On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 15:36 +0100, Graham Smith wrote: Hi all, I am running a testing machine that is currently using lilo for it's boot loader. I would like to switch this to grub but I am a little confused about how to go ahead and do this. I have installed the grub package but it doesn't seem to have set itself up as other packages do. There is not /boot/grub folder for instance and it didn't tell me it was writing itself to the boot block. This leads me to believe that if I reboot I will still be using lilo - I am a little scared about rebooting to find though :o) Can someone give me a couple of pointers about what to do next. I have grabbed the grub-doc and while it's great there's so much of it that's also half the problem. There are some pretty easy to follow directions to be found in /usr/share/doc/grub/README.Debian.gz You'll need to run a few commands as root, double-check your menu.lst, and you'll be all set to go. It's actually a lot easier than most people expect. Ok I have read the instructions but I am a little confused / concerned about the section on initrd images larger that 4MB (4194304 bytes). Almost all the stock initrd images are larger than 4MB (initrd.img-2.6.8-2-386 is 4317184 bytes and is the one I want to use) but the menu.lst files on my other machines (which all use grub already) don't have a ramdisk_size=16384 option anywhere. Where would I put this option anyway as the documentation is a little vague - I presume it should be after kopt eg: kopt=ramdisk_size=16384 but that looks wrong. I have /boot as a separate partition on this machine so I have the directory structure /boot/boot/grub which looks odd but seems to be right according to the instructions. Is this structure needed because grub looks directly at the partition that has /boot on it (/dev/hda1 in my case) and expects to see the /boot/grub directory hierarchy? The instructions also say that update-grub will create /boot/boot/menu.lst in cases where /boot is a separate partition. I take it this is just a typo and they meant /boot/boot/grub/menu.lst as that is where the file was created. Sorry to ask so many questions. I just really really don't want to screw this up. Huge Heaps of Thanks Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lilo to grub conversion
s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Graham Smith: Alex Malinovich wrote: On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 15:36 +0100, Graham Smith wrote: I am running a testing machine that is currently using lilo for it's boot loader. I would like to switch this to grub but I am a little confused about how to go ahead and do this. There are some pretty easy to follow directions to be found in /usr/share/doc/grub/README.Debian.gz Ok I have read the instructions but I am a little confused / concerned about the section on initrd images larger that 4MB (4194304 bytes). Almost all the stock initrd images are larger than 4MB (initrd.img-2.6.8-2-386 is 4317184 bytes and is the one I want to use) but the menu.lst files on my other machines (which all use grub already) don't have a ramdisk_size=16384 option anywhere. Where would I put this option anyway as the documentation is a little vague - I presume it should be after kopt eg: kopt=ramdisk_size=16384 I don't use it but mine has a comment: # kopt_2_6_0=ramdisk_size=8192 root=/dev/hda9 ro acpi=yes Thanks for the help. You do actually have a non-default ramdisk size. The default is 4MB you are using 8. The comment isn't really a comment as such. It's actually a bit of magic that is used by update-grub. To be on the safe side I stuck a ramdisk_size=16384 on my kopt. To the world in general: I'm am still interested to know whether the machine would have booted with out this option being added. If not then shouldn't update-grub probe the size of initrd images and check to make sure they are all smaller than 4MB, adding the required ramdisk_size option if they aren't? It seems to me like this would be a very simple extension as update-grub is doing it's magic on a currently running system it should be easy to find the size of the various files. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lilo to grub conversion
Hi all, I am running a testing machine that is currently using lilo for it's boot loader. I would like to switch this to grub but I am a little confused about how to go ahead and do this. I have installed the grub package but it doesn't seem to have set itself up as other packages do. There is not /boot/grub folder for instance and it didn't tell me it was writing itself to the boot block. This leads me to believe that if I reboot I will still be using lilo - I am a little scared about rebooting to find though :o) Can someone give me a couple of pointers about what to do next. I have grabbed the grub-doc and while it's great there's so much of it that's also half the problem. Cheers Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apt problem - ldconfig segmentation fault
I tried installing nmap a couple of days ago and ran into a bit of a problem. ldconfig seems to have died with a segmentation fault. In the past when I have had problems with apt they have resolved themselves in a couple of days when a working version of a package appears but this problem isn't fixing it self. I have had a good google for it but I can't find anything particularly relevant. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am running testing with the 2.6.7 kernel on i386 (slightly off topic question but I am sure I saw 2.6.8 appear and then disappear from testing and I can't find kernel-image-2.6-386 in testing any more has it been removed for some reason?) graham [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-get -u install nmap Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following NEW packages will be installed: nmap 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 98 not upgraded. 6 not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B/542kB of archives. After unpacking 1733kB of additional disk space will be used. Selecting previously deselected package nmap. (Reading database ... 121034 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking nmap (from .../archives/nmap_3.70-1_i386.deb) ... Setting up libapr0 (2.0.51-2) ... /var/lib/dpkg/info/libapr0.postinst: line 13: 2968 Segmentation fault ldconfig dpkg: error processing libapr0 (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 139 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of apache2-common: apache2-common depends on libapr0 (= 2.0.51); however: Package libapr0 is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing apache2-common (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of apache2-mpm-prefork: apache2-mpm-prefork depends on libapr0 (= 2.0.51); however: Package libapr0 is not configured yet. apache2-mpm-prefork depends on apache2-common (= 2.0.51-2); however: Package apache2-common is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing apache2-mpm-prefork (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Setting up libgail17 (1.6.6b-1) ... /var/lib/dpkg/info/libgail17.postinst: line 6: 2970 Segmentation fault ldconfig dpkg: error processing libgail17 (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 139 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libgail-common: libgail-common depends on libgail17 (= 1.6.6); however: Package libgail17 is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing libgail-common (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gnome-media: gnome-media depends on libgail-common (= 1.4.1); however: Package libgail-common is not configured yet. gnome-media depends on libgail17 (= 1.4.1); however: Package libgail17 is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing gnome-media (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Setting up nmap (3.70-1) ... Errors were encountered while processing: libapr0 apache2-common apache2-mpm-prefork libgail17 libgail-common gnome-media E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt problem - ldconfig segmentation fault
A re-install seems to have fixed it. Although I have no idea how it broke in the first place. Thanks Joris Huizer wrote: Graham Smith wrote: I tried installing nmap a couple of days ago and ran into a bit of a problem. ldconfig seems to have died with a segmentation fault. In the past when I have had problems with apt they have resolved themselves in a couple of days when a working version of a package appears but this problem isn't fixing it self. I have had a good google for it but I can't find anything particularly relevant. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am running testing with the 2.6.7 kernel on i386 (slightly off topic question but I am sure I saw 2.6.8 appear and then disappear from testing and I can't find kernel-image-2.6-386 in testing any more has it been removed for some reason?) graham What happens if you do, apt-get --reinstall install libc6 (ldconfig is provided by libc6) If that doesn't work, I'd try the libc6 source (apt-get build-dep libc6 apt-get -b source libc6) HTH, Joris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
