wpa_supplicant returns too early to ifup? Scripts in /etc/if-up.d executed before network is ready
I recently switch to wpa_supplicant (earlier I used ifup and ifdown manually). Now, scripts in /etc/if-up.d/ are executed before the net is ready (so the scripts fail). Does anyone here at debian-user recognise this problem? Here is my /etc/network/interfaces - auto ath0 iface ath0 inet manual wpa-roam /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf iface work inet dhcp wpa-driver wext iface home inet dhcp wpa-driver wext - -- Note that I use Debian version 5.0.3 Linux esset 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Wed Nov 4 20:45:37 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) h...@sociologi.cjb.net Q. What is that strange attachment in this mail? A. My digital signature, see www.gnupg.org for info on how you could use it to ensure that this mail is from me and has not been altered on the way to you. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Using old diskless machine as X terminal
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:53:55AM -0800, Ross Boylan wrote: On Fri, 2008-12-26 at 23:07 +0100, Hans Ekbrand wrote: I've seen several suggestions for ways to make diskettes that will either boot from CD or network. http://rom-o-matic.net/ is a useful service here. I used that, though I suspect it's not quite working. I get to the point where it tries to grab a file by tftp and then it fails with a time out. The server seems to show the request coming in Dec 23 20:45:00 corn in.tftpd[24442]: RRQ from 192.168.10.21 filename /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0, but no response. I *thought* I saw a message indicating the server was unable to contact the client when it tried to transmit the file, but I can't find it in the logs now. Other machines on the network can contact the tftp server and download the file. PXE booting requires an image to transmit. Making the image looks like another involved project. You don't need to create the image yourself, there are ready mades, e.g. from LTSP I used LTSP, though that raised its own issues, of which the 3 most important were unclear (at least to me) documentation, Can't really comment this. the fact that it didn't work with testing as a distribution (which is really a deboostrap issue), I haven't followed the development of LTSP, or the debian-integration for quite some time, but the older versions (e.g. 3.0) which does not try to bootstrap the distro of the server, but is a stand-alone implementation of a mini OS that only boots to X. and the fact that this is probably more heavyweight than I need. LTSP is definately not heavyweight in regards to the resources (CPU, RAM, etc) required by the terminal. But the technology is a bit complex (requires a dhcp server, a tftp server, a nfs server and display manager listening for TCP). Booting from a local CD is simpler in that regard. But how would a system booted by ready-made CD image know from where to get a login-prompt? It seems LTSP is oriented toward getting each X term to run in it's own separate environment, whereas all I need is for it to connect to my display manager (kdm) on the server. The primary use of LTSP is to get low-end terminals connect to a display manager. However, there has been substantial efforts to make it easy to run apps locally (on the clients) since now a days even lowend terminals can do quite some computing by themselves (and web-apps like flash can be quite demanding CPU-wise), and this relieves the server from load. Running apps locally generates new problems, such as authentication, but since your client only has 64 MB RAM you don't want local apps, and LTSP does not require that. By the way, thanks for the tip about how to set that up. I filed some bugs against ltsp, if anyone wants more details. The maintainers have been very responsive, which I appreciate. I think my main problem is that none of my boot methods are working, which is really kind of weird. Put a kernel and initrd from LTSP on local HD, and boot with GRUB or LILO? -- Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) h...@sociologi.cjb.net GPG Fingerprint: 1408 C8D5 1E7D 4C9C C27E 014F 7C2C 872A 7050 614E signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Using old diskless machine as X terminal
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 09:47:02PM -0800, Ross Boylan wrote: On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 22:11 -0500, Celejar wrote: On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:03:10 -0500 Douglas A. Tutty dtu...@vianet.ca wrote: On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:10:27AM -0800, Ross Boylan wrote: I have an old machine without a working hard disk that I'd like to use to connect to my main machine and run X. I believe that I could boot off of knoppix, but is there something easier I could do with the stuff already on my main machine--maybe setting up an image and transmitting over the network at boot time? The machine has a CD drive, but I'm not sure it's working. If I can use stuff I've already downloaded, it will go faster. If your old box doesn't do (or can't do) network booting, then you'll need to give it some kind of hard bootable image. The problem with knoppix is that it uses so much ram. You could try grml (it may use less ram, I don't know). Or Debian-live, which is incredibly customizable, although that will obviously involve work. All my options seem to involve work! So far, I've spent a lot of time with nothing to show. Nothing will happen by itself, but the amount of work required might be less than you think. There are two different problems involved: 1. Boot media, eg: - local HD - etherboot (or pxe) from a floppy (or CD) 2. What to boot - general distro, manually edited to only do X -query - specialised distro for this case, e.g LTSP (see www.ltsp.org) I misremembered the problem with the old machine; its power supply is broken (which is why I removed the disks). I switched to trying to get a 100Mhz Pentium with 64MB of RAM working. Unfortunately, it can't boot from CD-ROM (maybe something broke--the CD ROM is still readable, though). Nor does it directly support network booting. Its disks are basically full; it's running Windows NT 4, but my other family members are finding it intolerably slow. I was hoping it would be adequate as an X terminal. Using a local HD to boot from up to X is one way to solve your problem. You could do a minimal debian install and then install X and manually edit /etc/inittab to start X with the -query option, like: X -query ip.to.login.server Someone suggested I try smart boot manager on a floppy, to cause a boot off CD-ROM. But I can't get that to work. I've seen several suggestions for ways to make diskettes that will either boot from CD or network. http://rom-o-matic.net/ is a useful service here. PXE booting requires an image to transmit. Making the image looks like another involved project. You don't need to create the image yourself, there are ready mades, e.g. from LTSP There are a bunch of tools packaged for Debian that look relevant (e.g. search for boot in packagesearch (the app, not the web site). A number of options (such as using those tools or NFS mounting) are complicated by the fact that my system is too heavyweight for the old machine, so I need to pare things down so it's only an X server. The server can export a different tree than its own root file system. Meanwhile I've tweaked Xaccess and kdmrc in /etc/kde3/kdm so that they might play along if I get the rest working. That's a good start, Good luck with the rest! -- Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) h...@sociologi.cjb.net Q. What is that strange attachment in this mail? A. My digital signature, see www.gnupg.org for info on how you could use it to ensure that this mail is from me and has not been altered on the way to you. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: USB ownership
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 05:06:25PM +0200, Emanoil Kotsev wrote: Hans Ekbrand wrote: On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 04:57:00PM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: Paul Cartwright: My wife plugged in a USB stick, to save a file to it. It would not let her save a file, permission denied. ... I am logged in first, vt7, she is logged in 2nd, vt8, and when I switched to my login, there was the disk window open ( /media/disk). I don't know what Debian's current default solution for auto-mounting is, but the problem is that this program simply cannot tell who of you is using the USB drive. I don't the last part of this sentence is accurate. Only one VT is current when the USB-stick is inserted, the automounter should use the policy: The user who own the VT which is active when the USB-stick is inserted gets write permission on it. It's not VT dependant That's the problem. I wrote should, all automounters that does not take the current VT into account is broken, INMHO. - I tried to post the solution but don't see it here, may be got too long [...] for this you have to use the 'users' mount option or put it in the fstab for the particular device I suggested to use device by uuid /dev/disk/by-uuid/3fca395b-d75d-44ab-98be-9ec05b2e45fd /media/usb_2G_part3 auto users,noauto,atime,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0 and it works for every user As others have pointed out, your solution does not work for all usb-sticks (only those with a corresponding entry in /etc/fstab). -- Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Q. What is that strange attachment in this mail? A. My digital signature, see www.gnupg.org for info on how you could use it to ensure that this mail is from me and has not been altered on the way to you. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: USB ownership
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 04:57:00PM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: Paul Cartwright: My wife plugged in a USB stick, to save a file to it. It would not let her save a file, permission denied. ... I am logged in first, vt7, she is logged in 2nd, vt8, and when I switched to my login, there was the disk window open ( /media/disk). I don't know what Debian's current default solution for auto-mounting is, but the problem is that this program simply cannot tell who of you is using the USB drive. I don't the last part of this sentence is accurate. Only one VT is current when the USB-stick is inserted, the automounter should use the policy: The user who own the VT which is active when the USB-stick is inserted gets write permission on it. -- Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Q. What is that strange attachment in this mail? A. My digital signature, see www.gnupg.org for info on how you could use it to ensure that this mail is from me and has not been altered on the way to you. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: USB ownership
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 06:07:27PM +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote: On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Jochen Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what Debian's current default solution for auto-mounting is, but the problem is that this program simply cannot tell who of you is using the USB drive. pmount, i use it through gkrellm: 1. When you claim pmount is the default solution for auto-mounting, what do you mean by that? 2. AFAIK, pmount does not in it self take into account which user is owning the active VT when the USB-stick is inserted. Does gkrellm provide that functionality? -- Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Q. What is that strange attachment in this mail? A. My digital signature, see www.gnupg.org for info on how you could use it to ensure that this mail is from me and has not been altered on the way to you. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
what linux/limit.h is needed for backporting cups from lenny to etch?
Hi list! I was trying to backport libcups2-dev from lenny to etch when I met with the following error (from config.log) g++ (GCC) 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21) Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. configure:3054: $? = 0 configure:3061: g++ -v 5 Using built-in specs. Target: i486-linux-gnu Configured with: ../src/configure -v --enable-languages=c,c++,fortran,objc,obj-c++,treelang --prefix=/usr --enabl e-shared --with-system-zlib --libexecdir=/usr/lib --without-included-gettext --enable-threads=posix --enable-nls --program-suffix=-4.1 --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-clocale=gnu --enable-libstdcxx-debug --enable-mpfr --with-tune=i686 --enable-checking=release i486-linux-gnu Thread model: posix gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21) configure:3064: $? = 0 configure:3071: g++ -V 5 g++: '-V' option must have argument configure:3074: $? = 1 configure:3077: checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler configure:3106: g++ -c -g -Wall -O2 conftest.cpp 5 configure:3112: $? = 0 configure:3129: result: yes configure:3134: checking whether g++ accepts -g configure:3164: g++ -c -g conftest.cpp 5 configure:3170: $? = 0 configure:3269: result: yes configure:3297: checking how to run the C preprocessor configure:3337: cc -E conftest.c In file included from /usr/include/bits/posix1_lim.h:153, from /usr/include/limits.h:144, from /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.2/include/limits.h:122, from /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.2/include/syslimits.h:7, from /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.2/include/limits.h:11, from conftest.c:11: /usr/include/bits/local_lim.h:36:26: error: linux/limits.h: No such file or directory configure:3343: $? = 1 configure: failed program was: | /* confdefs.h. */ | #define PACKAGE_NAME | #define PACKAGE_TARNAME | #define PACKAGE_VERSION | #define PACKAGE_STRING | #define PACKAGE_BUGREPORT | #define CUPS_SVERSION CUPS v1.3.8 | #define CUPS_MINIMAL CUPS/1.3.8 | /* end confdefs.h. */ | #ifdef __STDC__ | # include limits.h | #else | # include assert.h | #endif |Syntax error How do I get around this? I did try to build cups again after having installed linux-headers-2.6.18-6-486, since linux/limit.h exist in that package, but that didn't help :-( -- Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) [EMAIL PROTECTED] A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion Q. Why is top posting bad? signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: what linux/limit.h is needed for backporting cups from lenny to etch?
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 04:37:56PM +0300, Aioanei Rares wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Hans Ekbrand [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 06:57:56AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hans Ekbrand wrote: Hi list! I was trying to backport libcups2-dev from lenny to etch when I met with the following error (from config.log) snip /usr/include/bits/local_lim.h:36:26: error: linux/limits.h: No such file or directory snip How do I get around this? I did try to build cups again after having installed linux-headers-2.6.18-6-486, since linux/limit.h exist in that package, but that didn't help :-( What error did you get then? Because limits.h then existed. I got the same error. Which made me think, that I had to help the build process to find linux/limit.h. Even though I have read for quite some time ago, that in debian you should need to tamper with symlinks for kernel-headers, I did just that. # cd /usr/include/linux # ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-6-486/include/linux/limits.h Tried to build again, and this time the build process got longer and bailed out with an other error: Making all in cups... make[2]: Entering directory `/root/cups-1.3.8/cups' Compiling adminutil.c... In file included from /usr/include/sys/socket.h:35, from http.h:43, from ipp.h:26, from cups.h:32, from adminutil.h:29, from adminutil.c:36: /usr/include/bits/socket.h:304:24: error: asm/socket.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/include/errno.h:36, from adminutil.c:39: /usr/include/bits/errno.h:25:26: error: linux/errno.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/include/signal.h:333, from /usr/include/sys/wait.h:30, from adminutil.c:45: /usr/include/bits/sigcontext.h:28:29: error: asm/sigcontext.h: No such file or directory make[2]: *** [adminutil.o] Error 1 This time asm/socket.h is not on my system, but many very similar files do exist here: $ find /usr/include -iname socket.h /usr/include/bits/socket.h /usr/include/sys/socket.h /usr/include/asm-i486/socket.h /usr/include/asm-x86_64/socket.h but not asm/socket.h Rather than continuing to manually hack around each the compilation path/problem, I would like to understand what is wrong with my system. -- Note that I use Debian version 4.0 Linux amin 2.6.18-4-486 #1 Mon Mar 26 16:39:10 UTC 2007 i586 GNU/Linux Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 1408 C8D5 1E7D 4C9C C27E 014F 7C2C 872A 7050 614E -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFI9I1sfCyHKnBQYU4RAs90AJ4rUQWuylI0aF4JXVxoZHbqHYCvSgCfbYST သ岿䣨ⳤ爣콘�= =jRHx -END PGP SIGNATURE- Do you have the kernel source (for your particular version) installed? No. $ uname -a Linux debian 2.6.18-6-486 #1 Thu Apr 24 07:59:30 UTC 2008 i486 GNU/Linux $ dpkg -l linux-source-* | grep ^ii ii linux-source-2.6.242.6.24-6~etchnhalf.5 Linux kernel source for version 2.6.24 with Debian patches But I do have the header packages installed. $ dpkg -l linux-*headers* | grep ^ii ii linux-headers-2.6.18-6 2.6.18.dfsg.1-22etch3 Common header files for Linux 2.6.18 ii linux-headers-2.6.18-6-486 2.6.18.dfsg.1-22etch3 Header files for Linux 2.6.18 on x86 ii linux-kernel-headers 2.6.18-7 Linux Kernel Headers for development -- Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Q. What is that strange attachment in this mail? A. My digital signature, see www.gnupg.org for info on how you could use it to ensure that this mail is from me and has not been altered on the way to you. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: what linux/limit.h is needed for backporting cups from lenny to etch?
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 06:57:56AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hans Ekbrand wrote: Hi list! I was trying to backport libcups2-dev from lenny to etch when I met with the following error (from config.log) snip /usr/include/bits/local_lim.h:36:26: error: linux/limits.h: No such file or directory snip How do I get around this? I did try to build cups again after having installed linux-headers-2.6.18-6-486, since linux/limit.h exist in that package, but that didn't help :-( What error did you get then? Because limits.h then existed. I got the same error. Which made me think, that I had to help the build process to find linux/limit.h. Even though I have read for quite some time ago, that in debian you should need to tamper with symlinks for kernel-headers, I did just that. # cd /usr/include/linux # ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-6-486/include/linux/limits.h Tried to build again, and this time the build process got longer and bailed out with an other error: Making all in cups... make[2]: Entering directory `/root/cups-1.3.8/cups' Compiling adminutil.c... In file included from /usr/include/sys/socket.h:35, from http.h:43, from ipp.h:26, from cups.h:32, from adminutil.h:29, from adminutil.c:36: /usr/include/bits/socket.h:304:24: error: asm/socket.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/include/errno.h:36, from adminutil.c:39: /usr/include/bits/errno.h:25:26: error: linux/errno.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/include/signal.h:333, from /usr/include/sys/wait.h:30, from adminutil.c:45: /usr/include/bits/sigcontext.h:28:29: error: asm/sigcontext.h: No such file or directory make[2]: *** [adminutil.o] Error 1 This time asm/socket.h is not on my system, but many very similar files do exist here: $ find /usr/include -iname socket.h /usr/include/bits/socket.h /usr/include/sys/socket.h /usr/include/asm-i486/socket.h /usr/include/asm-x86_64/socket.h but not asm/socket.h Rather than continuing to manually hack around each the compilation path/problem, I would like to understand what is wrong with my system. -- Note that I use Debian version 4.0 Linux amin 2.6.18-4-486 #1 Mon Mar 26 16:39:10 UTC 2007 i586 GNU/Linux Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 1408 C8D5 1E7D 4C9C C27E 014F 7C2C 872A 7050 614E signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: what linux/limit.h is needed for backporting cups from lenny to etch?
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 05:09:56PM +0300, Aioanei Rares wrote: Install the source for the kernel in use and see if the problem still appears. It's still there. -- Linux amin 2.6.18-4-486 #1 Mon Mar 26 16:39:10 UTC 2007 i586 GNU/Linux Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) [EMAIL PROTECTED] A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion Q. Why is top posting bad? signature.asc Description: Digital signature
automounting removable drives on multi-user systems
Hi fellow debian-user(s) My problem concerns auto-mounting of removable media on multi-user systems. What I want is a tool/some scripts that: Whenever a removable media[1] is inserted the user who is owning the active display [2], should automatically get the device mounted and a filebrowser should be launched on the mountpoint. (which filebrowser is up to the user to decide, I prefer mc in terminal, but other users prefer konqueror). When the user closes the filebrowser, the device should be automatically unmounted, so a little script will be needed here. I know of and use, ivman, which seems be the right tool for this, since it runs system-wide and once per user.[3] The other users on this system use KDE, and I don't know: - if KDE uses ivman or has its own builtin code for handling removable media. - if KDE has its own method for this, can that code be deactivated? Should it be deactivated, or is smart enough to not try mount device when it runs under an inactive display? (my experience suggests otherwise) - Suppose KDE:s mounting can be deactivated, or be configured to use ivman, so there is only ivman to configure, can ivman be configured to only mount devices when run by the user who owns the active display? If ivman is not up to this, then are there other tools that can do this? (And do these other tools play well with whatever window-manager I happen to prefer?) -- [1] For now, I'm just interested in USB-sticks (but auto-playing DVD:s would be a nice bonus [2] or current VT, or whatever it is called, but all users are using their own X-server (e.g. Lisa uses X-server 0 at vt7, Bob, uses X-server 1 at vt8 and so on). [3] ivman is started automatically on my system at login-time by Xsession, as described in the documentation for ivman in Debian). Kind regards, -- Note that I use Debian version lenny/sid Linux samir 2.6.26-1-686 #1 SMP Thu Aug 28 12:00:54 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Q. What is that strange attachment in this mail? A. My digital signature, see www.gnupg.org for info on how you could use it to ensure that this mail is from me and has not been altered on the way to you. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: automounting removable drives on multi-user systems
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 10:37:29AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: Content-Description: original message before SpamAssassin Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:37:29 -0500 From: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: automounting removable drives on multi-user systems On 09/30/08 10:08, Hans Ekbrand wrote: Hi fellow debian-user(s) My problem concerns auto-mounting of removable media on multi-user systems. What I want is a tool/some scripts that: Whenever a removable media[1] is inserted the user who is owning the active display [2], should automatically get the device mounted and a filebrowser should be launched on the mountpoint. (which filebrowser GNOME already does this. Konq should be able to be configured to do this. I have used gnome-volume-manager under gnome and it seems to do one thing right: the user who own's the active display get to mount the device. However, I haven't tested gnome-volume-manager under KDE+ion3 and I don't know if it is able to give the right user the mount without the gnome desktop stuff. If gnome-volume-mananger does, than that might be the tool I want. is up to the user to decide, I prefer mc in terminal, but other users prefer konqueror). When the user closes the filebrowser, the device should be automatically unmounted, so a little script will be needed here. The problem with this is that the device's buffers need to be flushed *before* the device is unplugged. I see no problem here, umount does not return/finish before the buffers are synced, and the script will umount and give the user a notice when the device has been properly umounted. That's why devices need to be manually dismounted. Not with the work-flow I have drafted. When the user is done moving files, s/he exits the filebrowser, which means that the script continues, and the next step in the script is umount, and when that is done, give the user a note (xmessage or whatever). Actually, I already have such a script working, which when the filebrowser exits asks the user (using xmessage) if the device should be umounted or not. Perhaps my usage of removable media is atypical, but I prefer to use the only when I have to, i.e. when I need to transfer files to computers where I don't have an account and/or does not have a network connection. I hate to sound like a curmudgeon, but it shouldn't be hard to teach users to dismount devices. In GNOME, one of the right-click menu choices in a drive's desktop icon is Unmount Volume, and I'm sure that KDE does something similar. (Even Windows has the awkward Safely Remove Hardware button.) If the user chooses not let the script umount then, the user will have to umount manually, as you state, but the default thing to do when I have tranfered the files, is to umount the device, and I want to be offered that (and offer that to the other users) with a dialog, don't you think such an offer is a good idea? Or even, something debian could offer by default (at least if a automounting daemon like gnome-volume-manager or ivman is installed on the system)? I know of and use, ivman, which seems be the right tool for this, since it runs system-wide and once per user.[3] The other users on this system use KDE, and I don't know: - if KDE uses ivman or has its own builtin code for handling removable media. - if KDE has its own method for this, can that code be deactivated? Should it be deactivated, or is smart enough to not try mount device when it runs under an inactive display? (my experience suggests otherwise) KDE has it's own techniques for automounting. Can they be configured to only be active for the user who owns the active display? -- Note that I use Debian version 4.0 Linux amin 2.6.18-4-486 #1 Mon Mar 26 16:39:10 UTC 2007 i586 GNU/Linux Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) [EMAIL PROTECTED] A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion Q. Why is top posting bad? signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: how to create an image of your debian computer hard drive for cloning
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 09:49:08PM +0200, Aniruddha wrote: On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 14:18 -0400, David Clymer wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Robert Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, I was wondering how I could make a clone or image of my computer hard disk that contains debian OS. I want to do this in order to make an exact copy to another clean pc with no os at all. What complete free software can I use for this ? Is there a manual some where on the net about this ? I highly recommend Clonezilla-live. it makes cloning to/from any sort of storage very simple. You can clone to an attached usb drive, to a network drive via nfs, samba, or ssh. (http://www.clonezilla.org/) Clonezilla uses partimage which I haven't found too reliable. I still prefer to tar /. It works perfectly every time. To tar / will not - partition the disk - make a partition bootable - put the right files on the right partitions unless the partitions are - created manually - mounted at the correct mountpoints. The OP mentioned a clean pc with no os at all, which sounds much like an unpartitioned disk, on which tar / will not work at all (since there is no partitions and no filesystem to untar to). If you can plug the hard disk of the clean pc into your existing system, then I recommend dd. If you need to manually move the data between the computers then partimaged is handier. If both computers exists in a fast lan, I guess you could just At source - export / from the source over NFS At target - boot a live cd on the target, - mount source.ip:/ /mnt - dd if=/mnt/dev/sda (or whatever hard disk on source is) of=/dev/sda (This tip is untested though). -- Linux amin 2.6.18-4-486 #1 Mon Mar 26 16:39:10 UTC 2007 i586 GNU/Linux Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 1408 C8D5 1E7D 4C9C C27E 014F 7C2C 872A 7050 614E signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Behöver tips hur man får ner paket från unstable på bästa sätt.
On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 03:30:14PM +0100, Kim Christensen wrote: * Mikael Rudberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-08 14:45:11 +0100]: Hej Jag vill försöka installera ushare 1.1 på min debian4. Dock så behöver den ett gäng med lib's som ligger i unstable ... Jag har alldrig använt mig av unstable förut så jag undrar hur jag går tillväga på bästa sätt och. Går att enbart att plocka ner dessa grejer eller måste man uppdatera hela sin debian installation så den får med allt från unstable ? L???gg till unstable som repository i din sources.list och k???r följande: # apt-get -t unstable paketnamn Jag har inte beh???vt g???ra detta sj???lv n???gon g???ng, dåjag k???rt unstable sedan min f???rsta installation, sån???gon annan kanske kan fylla i hur v???l det fungerar att blanda distributioner pådet h???r s???ttet? Det finns två alternativ, antingen gör man som Kim skriver ovan, låt oss kalla det blanda binärer eller så kompilerar man ushare 1.1 för stable (etch), låt oss kalla det bakåtporta. För att bakåtporta krävs: 1. Lägg till en deb-src rad i /etc/apt/sources.list som refererar till unstable 2. # apt-get update 2. # apt-get build-dep ushare 3. # apt-get --build source ushare Fördelar med blanda binärer: - något enklare, kräver bara en ändring i /etc/apt/sources.list och att kör: # apt-get update; apt -t unstable install ushare - kräver mindre CPU-tid. Fördelar med bakåtporta: - Enbart det paket som bakåtportas påverkas, de övriga paketen är fortfarande samma väl beprövade kombination av program. (T.ex. så såg jag i listan över bibliotek som skulle uppdateras ingick libc, vilket ju nästan alla dina övriga program använder.) Inget av alternativen är överlägset, vilket som är bäst beror på situationen, t.ex. bakåtportar man inte gärna ett gigantisk program som openoffice (riktigt stora brukar i och för sig finnas på nätet bakåtportade av någon annan), eller om burken som ska köra programmet är långsam, eller har mycket lite ledigt hårddiskuttrymme. Som Kim skriver är den stora frågan hur bra en oprövad kombination av binärer fungerar. Jag har såvitt jag minns aldrig stött på problem som jag kunnat härleda till en sådan kombination, men om stabilitet är viktigt för dig (eller viktigt för dig på en viss dator), så skulle jag rekommendera bakåtporta. Om du kan anta att du i framtiden kommer att vilja ha fler nyare versioner av program än de som finns i stable, blir det i längden lite omständligt att bakåtporta. I sådana fall är smidigare att köra testing än stable. Själv kör jag stable med bakåtportade versioner av några få för mig viktiga program (ion3, xlockmore). -- Hans Ekbrand signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Montera NTFS-partitioner
On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 11:45:50AM +0100, Per Tunedal wrote: Hej! Det tycks gå att montera NTFS-volymerna manuellt, men jag måste ställa in behörigheter etc som jag ännu inte lärt mig. Det slog mig att volymerna borde monteras automatiskt. Det håller inte jag med om. Om du vill att de ska monteras automatiskt så ändra i /etc/fstab, men inse att inte alla tycker att det är bra policy. Det är inget tekniskt fel på Debian som gör att inte det fungerar som du vill, den förvalda policyn är bara en annan än din favorit-policy. Felmeddelandet när jag klickar på ikonen under Dator på skrivbordet: libhal-storage.c 1401 : info: called libhal_free_dbs_errir but dbuserror was not set. process 3934:applications must not close shred connections - see dbus_connection_close() docs. this is a bug int the application. fel: enheten /dev/sdc1 ?r inte l?stagbar fel: kunde inte k?ra pmount Din NTFS-formatterade hårddisk är inte löstagbar, och därför har du inte rättigheter att montera den. Utifrån din favorit-policy när det gäller rättigheter låter det som att du är ensam användare på ditt system, och då är det kanske enklast att ändra i /etc/fstab, snarare än att ändra udevs/hals rättighetspolicy vad gäller fasta diskar. -- Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) [EMAIL PROTECTED] A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion Q. Why is top posting bad? signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Montera NTFS-partitioner
On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 11:45:50AM +0100, Per Tunedal wrote: Hej! Det tycks gå att montera NTFS-volymerna manuellt, men jag måste ställa in behörigheter etc som jag ännu inte lärt mig. Det slog mig att volymerna borde monteras automatiskt. Det håller inte jag med om. Om du vill att de ska monteras automatiskt så ändra i /etc/fstab, men inse att inte alla tycker att det är bra policy. Det är inget tekniskt fel på Debian som gör att inte det fungerar som du vill, den förvalda policyn är bara en annan än din favorit-policy. Felmeddelandet när jag klickar på ikonen under Dator på skrivbordet: libhal-storage.c 1401 : info: called libhal_free_dbs_errir but dbuserror was not set. process 3934:applications must not close shred connections - see dbus_connection_close() docs. this is a bug int the application. fel: enheten /dev/sdc1 ?r inte l?stagbar fel: kunde inte k?ra pmount Din NTFS-formatterade hårddisk är inte löstagbar, och därför har du inte rättigheter att montera den. Utifrån din favorit-policy när det gäller rättigheter låter det som att du är ensam användare på ditt system, och då är det kanske enklast att ändra i /etc/fstab, snarare än att ändra udevs/hals rättighetspolicy vad gäller fasta diskar. -- Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) [EMAIL PROTECTED] A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion Q. Why is top posting bad? signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Nyckelsigneringsfest, Göt eborg/Slottskogen nu på onsdag.
Hej! För er som befinner er i Göteborgsområdet på onsdag kväll vill jag informera om en nyckelsigneringsfest i Slottskogen den 13 juni klockan 19:00. Platsen är Slottskogen, på gräsmattan mittemot Björngårdsvillan. Inbjudan har gått ut till personer som är listade på biglumber med adressen Göteborg, samt till ett antal andra personer som råkar känna mig, Hans Ekbrand, samt till några epostlistor. Både jag själv, och flera av de inbjudna är inte tidigare varit på ett key-signing-party. Så för er som är osäkra på rutinerna, eller poängen med det hela, se t.ex. http://cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/keysigning_party/en/keysigning_party.html http://www.keysigning.org/methods/adhoc Antalet deltagare kommer antagligen inte att vara så stort, så därför kommer vi att använda en metod som kräver minimala förberedelser. Förberedelser: (Om du inte har någon nyckel så måste du skapa en, se t.ex. http://cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/keysigning_party/en/keysigning_party.html#prep) 0. Om du inte redan gjort det, se till att din nyckel finns tillgänglig på nyckelservrarna: (i instruktionerna nedan, byt ut [EMAIL PROTECTED] mot den epostadress som du angav när du skapade nyckeln). gpg --send-keys [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. Skriv ut nyckelns fingeravtryck med följande kommando gpg --fingerprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. Kopiera upp (eller skriv ut fler kopior) av resultatet av ovanstående kommando. Ta med dig så många ex som du vill ha signaturer på din nyckel. Mer än 20 är nog inte nödvändigt, vi blir nog inte så många. 3. Kom till partyt med -en giltig legitimation -utskrifterna av din nyckels fingeravtryck -en penna Efterarbete: Var och en laddar ner de övrigas nycklar från nyckelserverarna, jämför fingeravtryck på pappret med fingeravtrycket på de nedladdade nycklarna, signerar dem (om fingeravtrycken överensstämmer) och skickar tillbaka de signerande nycklarna till nyckelservrarna. (Se http://cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/keysigning_party/en/keysigning_party.html#after_keysigning_party för detaljerade instruktioner). Ingen föranmälan behövs, eventuella frågor skickas med fördel till mig, Hans Ekbrand. Med vänliga hälsningar, -- Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Q. What is that strange attachment in this mail? A. My digital signature, see www.gnupg.org for info on how you could use it to ensure that this mail is from me and has not been altered on the way to you. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: debmirror can't find public key to validate Release files
On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 11:08:54AM -0500, Daniel B. wrote: Hans Ekbrand wrote: On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 04:50:47PM -0500, Daniel B. wrote: Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 11:10:56AM -0500, Daniel B. wrote: ... I can't tell if I deleted a key I had before (in purging and/or re-installing some things I shouldn't have) or if upgrading debmirror got me a version that now checks against a key I never had in the first place. What can I do to get debmirror working again? ... apt-get install debian-archive-keyring ?? Nope, that doesnt work. (There's no such package in Sarge or the Sarge security updates (unless my mirror is broken).) What else? get debmirror from sarge manually (not apt-get). install with dpkg. Huh? I already have debmirror from sarge (debmirror version 200502027). That's the version of debmirror that is complaining about the lack of a public key. OK. I thought you hade upgraded debmirror to unstable and wanted to downgrade it to the version in sarge. Did you mean to download something else from Sarge? Or did you mean to download debian-archive-keyring from something other than Sarge? Or something else? (Is debian-keyring (in sarge) the old name of the debian-archive-keyring that was referred to about, or is it something else?) debian-keyring contains the public keys of all developers and the public keys of certain roles within the debian project. debian-archive-keyring is a small package with only the keys needed for apt-get to work with gpg. AFAIK debian-archive-keyring does not exist in sarge. I don't know about debmirror, but I know what i did to get apt-get work in unstable when the old key expired. Perhaps something like this would work for you too? # gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 2D230C5F # gpg --export -a 2D230C5F | apt-key add - -- Linux samir 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i586 GNU/Linux Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG key: 1024D/7050614E Fingerprint: 1408 C8D5 1E7D 4C9C C27E 014F 7C2C 872A 7050 614E Learn about secure email at http://www.gnupg.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: debmirror can't find public key to validate Release files
On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 04:50:47PM -0500, Daniel B. wrote: Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 11:10:56AM -0500, Daniel B. wrote: [...] I can't tell if I deleted a key I had before (in purging and/or re-installing some things I shouldn't have) or if upgrading debmirror got me a version that now checks against a key I never had in the first place. What can I do to get debmirror working again? apt-get install debian-archive-keyring ?? Nope, that doesnt work. (There's no such package in Sarge or the Sarge security updates (unless my mirror is broken).) What else? get debmirror from sarge manually (not apt-get). install with dpkg. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.1 Linux samir 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i586 GNU/Linux Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG key: 1024D/7050614E Fingerprint: 1408 C8D5 1E7D 4C9C C27E 014F 7C2C 872A 7050 614E Learn about secure email at http://www.gnupg.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature
/var becomes read-only every day
Hi list!
Every day /var (which is on its own partition) becomes read-only.
# mount -o remount,rw /var
works ok but in the long run I must find and solve the problem.
This is a Sarge box. I suspect some cron job, but I don't know what to
look for. The only customized cron job I know of is this: the box
automatically installs security updates once a day from
security.debian.org with the following:
0 16 * * */2 LANG=C sudo apt-get update
30 16 * * */2 LANG=C sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade
And I have a file /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50automatic-security-installs
with the following.
// Do default handling of changed conffiles (should be keep user changes)
// If default is set to do nothing, then keep user changes
//DPkg::options::--force-confold=--force-confdef;
Dpkg::Options {--force-confold;}
--
Note that I use Debian version 3.1
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Re: /var becomes read-only every day
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 04:06:23PM -0500, Chris Howie wrote: Hans Ekbrand wrote: Every day /var (which is on its own partition) becomes read-only. If /var is on a separate partition and is mounted with '-o errors=remount-ro' then check dmesg and see if some error is triggering the remount. That showed errors on that partition. Guess my harddisk is dying... Thanks for the hint! -- Note that I use Debian version 3.1 Linux samir 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i586 GNU/Linux Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) [EMAIL PROTECTED] A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion Q. Why is top posting bad? signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: problem with automatic upgrade (changed conffile)
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 12:29:38AM +0200, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: On mandag 19 september 2005, 00:18, Hans Ekbrand wrote: You must expect issues like these, it is a feature... :-) Not getting security updates automatically installed a feature? Not in my world! Well, imagine the security.debian.org box getting compromised, and the attacker pumping out a trojanned security upgrade. You install it automatically before the Debian folks take the box out. The attacker has your IP too... That's a serious single point of failure for the entire community, you know... That's a interesting point, but not relevant in the current discussion. Note that I do get automatic security updates on all packages in which I have not changed any conffile. If it were a feature not to get automatic installing of security updates, then that would be some kind of bug, don't you think. My question is: How do I do to get automatic security updates also for packages that I have changed a conffile in? I prefer to read and understand the DSA, and check that the DSA is signed with a key I trust (I'm just a hop from joey) before I do a manual apt-get upgrade on affected machines. But YMMV, that's just me. I understand the risk of automating security upgrades, but I consider relying on installing security updates by hand to be worse, since I don't think I will have the time (or opportunity) to keep up with the security updates. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.1 Linux emac140 2.6.8-2-686 #1 Mon Jan 24 03:58:38 EST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) [EMAIL PROTECTED] A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion Q. Why is top posting bad? signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: problem with automatic upgrade (changed conffile)
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 09:07:45AM +0200, Hans Ekbrand wrote:
[...]
My question is:
How do I do to get automatic security updates also for packages that
I have changed a conffile in?
The answer was in the Debian Reference Manual
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-apt-get-auto
Create a file /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50automatic-installs-save-oldconfig
Put the following into it:
Dpkg::Options {--force-confold;}
PS. Oddly enough, --force-confold is said to be mostly intended to be used by
experts only in the manual of dpkg.
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problem with automatic upgrade (changed conffile)
Hi debian-user! I have sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade in my crontab and the following sources for apt: deb http://debian.archive.of.my.country/debian/ stable main deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free since release of sarge and until now that has served me well. A recent kde-upgrade produced the following error, which is now repeated for every cron-run. (Excuse some swedish here, but I think you recognize most of it. - Forwarded message from Cron Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Cron Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 16:30:38 +0200 Läser paketlistor... Bygger beroendeträd... 0 uppgraderade, 0 nyinstallerade, 0 att ta bort och 0 ej uppgraderade. 1 ej helt installerade eller borttagna. Behöver hämta 0B arkiv. Efter uppackning kommer 0B ytterligare diskutrymme användas. Ställer in kdm (3.3.2-1sarge1) ... Konfigurationsfil /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc == Modifierad (av dig eller ett program) sedan installationen. == Paketdistributören har uppdaterat konfigurationsfilen. Vad vill du göra åt det? Dina möjligheter är: Y eller I: installera paketansvariges version N eller O: behåll din nu installerade version D : visa skillnaderna mellan versionerna Z : lägg denna process i bakgrunden för att undersöka situationen Förvald funktion är att behålla din nuvarande version. *** kdmrc (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [förval=N] ? dpkg: fel vid hantering av kdm (--configure): Filslut på stdin vid konfigurationsfilsfrågan Fel uppstod vid hantering: kdm E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) - End forwarded message - The error-message is something like End of file at stdin at question about conffile (I can edit the crontab to run apt-get under LANG=C if that would help diagnosing the problem). I have changed /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc, but so what? Why does dpkg fail here? -- Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG key: 1024D/7050614E Fingerprint: 1408 C8D5 1E7D 4C9C C27E 014F 7C2C 872A 7050 614E Learn about secure email at http://www.gnupg.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: problem with automatic upgrade (changed conffile)
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 11:50:28PM +0200, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: On søndag 18 september 2005, 23:34, Hans Ekbrand wrote: I have changed /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc, but so what? Why does dpkg fail here? There are certain limitations to doing things automatically, and in this case, it detects certain changes that it needs your input on. It is a config files that's changed. I believe it is possible to tweak something to make it do more things automatically, though. The default action is to keep my changes, and that is what I want. You must expect issues like these, it is a feature... :-) Not getting security updates automatically installed a feature? Not in my world! Note that there is a package cron-apt, that you may want to install instead. It can be configured to do automatic upgrades. cron-apt is just a wrapper around apt-get, I used it for a year or so. AFAIK cron-apt cannot make apt-get (or dkpg) smarter, it just automates the apt-get update, apt-get -y dist-upgrade thing much like the lines in my crontab. -- Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) [EMAIL PROTECTED] A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion Q. Why is top posting bad? signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: combining POP mail and mail file with local repeating and combining POP server?
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 10:41:31PM -0400, Daniel Barclay wrote: From: Hans Ekbrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 11:31:06PM -0400, Daniel Barclay wrote: ... I'd like to have a local POP server that, when queried, queries another POP server and looks at a local mail file, and then serves the combined set of messages to the POP client. ... Why not ISP-fetchmail-exim-[procmail-~/mail-]local IMAP-netscape? Is that fetchmail for everything or fetchmail downloading just my mailing-list messages? If that's for everything, it doesn't quite do what I want: I don't want to fetch the non-mailing-list messages unless I'm fetching them into Netscape. I don't think I mentioned another constraint: My home machine is not on line all the time, so I can't use a POP server there to be able to check mail from elsewhere (at any time). That's why I want to leave some mail on my ISP's machine. Going through several servers would be okay, but I want the non-mailing-list messages to remain on my ISP's POP server, accessible from work (or anywhere), until I retrieve them from home. 1. Continue to fetch mailing-list mail with cron/ftp. 2. install a local imap server. 3. Whenever you want to read non-mailing-list mail from home with netscape, run fetchmail which will download that mail from your isp. 4. I think fetchmail must be helped by a MTA listening at port 25 or a MDA to deliver the mail to your spool file (or to ~/mail) 5. Your local imap server will then see the mail and can serve it to netscape. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpgqYPe7eMtN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: combining POP mail and mail file with local repeating and combining POP server?
On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 11:31:06PM -0400, Daniel Barclay wrote: Is there any POP server that can combine the mail from another POP server with mail in a mail file? I'd like to have a local POP server that, when queried, queries another POP server and looks at a local mail file, and then serves the combined set of messages to the POP client. Mail administration is not my area of expertise, but here are some thoughts/suggestions: Why not ISP-fetchmail-exim-[procmail-~/mail-]local IMAP-netscape? I thought netscape 4 had IMAP support, doesn't it? Here's why I ask: 1. - mail is delived to a mail spool file on my ISP's machine - my ISP has a POP server - I retrieve regular mail on demand over POP using Netscape 2. - I filter messages from high-volume mailing lists (such as this one) into a separate mail file using a .forward file in my shell account on my ISP's machine - I download that mail file every so often with a cron job, appending it to a new-mail file - when I read mailing-list mail, I use Emacs RMAIL to read the mail from that new-mail file into an RMAIL file 3. - I want to switch to reading those mailing list messages in Netscape. - I want to keep downloading the high-volume messages. (I don't want them to accumulate on my ISP's machine, in case I don't read mail often enough and they exceed my disk-space quota. I also don't want them cluttering up my regular mail file in case I need to telnet in from some remote location and do a less on my mail file.) procmail will keep things apart, but if you are limited to one POP account, then I don't think POP3 will be useful here. Only by using IMAP (or several POP accounts) you can keep mail sorted on the server side. - I want regular messages to remain on my ISP's machine until I retrieve them from Netscape. (I check my mail in keep-on-server mode from work (or using telnet from some remote location) if I haven't yet retrieved it from home.) - Netscape 4.x (yes, I know...) can only retrieve from one POP server. 4. Here's what I think I'd like to happen: - I keep separating high-volume mail using my .forward file on my ISP's machine. - I keep downloading the high-volume mail separately. - When I retrieve mail using Netscape at home, it connects to a special, local POP server. - The local POP server queries my ISP's POP server, _and_ looks at the downloaded mail file, and presents the _combined_ set of messages to Netscape. Let fetchmail regurlary fetch that mail from ISP to your local box, perhaps via cron. (Netscape at home runs in don't-keep-messages-on-server mode, so the local POP server would use that mode to talk to the ISP POP server, and would delete messages from the downloaded mail file.) Other approaches that work would be fine too. Some related questions seem to be: Is there any safe way to asynchronously append messages to a Netscape mail file? Or would I need to run a command when I know I'm not using the mail that to which messages are appended externally? When you use netscape to read your mail, it connects to local POP, downloads the messages and then displays them. So netscape is always operating on a copy of what the POP server actually got. There can be no lock problems as far as netscape is concerned, as I understand things. Can fetchmail download only certain messages? (Maybe I could retrieve the mailing-list messages with cron, and leave the remainder there, if there's a (reliable) way to get list messages back into Netscape.) What is the point in not having all mail transfered immediately (or by cron/fetcmail) to your local POP? -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpughWvmeyVi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Thread stealing [was Re: [ Debian Users ] Subject Prefix ?]
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 07:41:42AM -0400, christophe barbé wrote: Could you avoid posting to a mailing list by doing a reply to a current thread and changing the subject ? I don't know for pine but on MUA able to display the threads, it's boring to see a thread in another simply because you can type the ml address by yourself or save it in your address book. Agreed. It makes it harder than it ought to be to manage this high-volume list (Deleting a whole thread is very convenient, but thread stealing undo the gain of an intelligent MUA). -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpgw8IydZreJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: send and receive mail through eth1
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 01:01:47PM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: I need to setup a machine to be on an internal lan on eth0, but connect to another gateway on eth1 to collect mail. Both eth0 and eth1 are running in trusted network environments. I have looked at the exim and fetchmail man pages, but don't see any obvioius options for setting them to use (say) interface eth1. Dealing with eth1 et al is the job of the kernel, for applications like exim and fetchmail, just specify the network info they need (for fetchmail what hosts to query, for exim what domains are local etc), and it work automatically. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpqfF2W98pAy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Solutions for booting dual OS (separate HDs)
On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 02:44:54PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I make an boot disk for the hdb/debian so that it only boots from the floppy, but loads kernel etc from HD? The significant line in /etc/lilo.conf is boot=/dev/fd0 Good Luck! -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpmf8Zgz3c64.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: LTSP packages
On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 06:46:44AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: I noticed that the ltsp.org has a series of GPLed debian packages for use in installing the lstp client/server files necessary. I am wondering why these packages have not been incorporated into the Debian Package library as official packages? I asked on the ltsp list and the response was two fold: The lstp .deb maintaner was not yet on the Debian Team. The ltsp .deb packages would have to be 'non-free' and Debian is discouraging non-free packages. I guess I don't get it. it's GPLed. The ltsp debs are non-free because there exists no source packages. See. http://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/termserv-devel/2001-December/000201.html (It's my understanding that LTSP is made by binaries picked from various distros, and some things are compiled from source, e.g. the X packages). AFAIK the LTSP packages does not meet the demands of GPL and is thus non-free. The problem is not so much of licensees as of work: no one has uptil now taken the time to gather the source for these packages, even if is available, under GPL, SOMEWHERE. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgp9E9ps8U4qA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18
On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 03:30:05PM -0300, Francisco Fialho wrote: Andrew Perrin wrote: On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Francisco Fialho wrote: is there any command I can use to see what kernel I'm using?! uname -a the output to the uname - a command gave me 2.2.20... what is missing?! make-kpkg ran OK... must I do something?! after make-kpkg nothing else as done, except run the lilo command. I missed the start of the thread, but you do know that you will have to reboot in order to use the new kernel? -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpTcuDKFs9x6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Another guide for a diskless installation?
On Sun, Jun 16, 2002 at 05:19:13PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an IBM Thinkpad 560 with no external floppy drive or (any) CD-ROM. It's running Win '95 with no other partitions and the only way to get data in or out of the laptop is with an Ethernet PC Card. That's why I'd like to execute a diskless installation. The installation guide seems to treat this type of installation as an afterthought, but I'm also having trouble finding a more thorough guide to a diskless installation. 1. Will you install to the partition that currently holds MS Windows? 2. When you say diskless installation and also states that there is no external floppy or (any) CD-ROM, do really mean diskless (e.g. use a bootrom on a nic to boot over the network) or is there an internal floppy drive? -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpXDf1vWF20X.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Another guide for a diskless installation?
On Sun, Jun 16, 2002 at 05:35:09PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Thanks for the response: Indeed, there's no internal floppy either ... this is their ultra-light Pentium laptop. The only type of floppy drive available to this machine is external, and it wasn't available to me when I bought the laptop. I also have no desire to keep anything Windows, so I would like to install to the partition that contains Windows, too. There are two ways: 1. Boot via bootrom on nic (etherboot, dhcp, tftp and nfs). Mount your local harddisk, partition it and install to it. (You will of course need another computer in the same network to offer these services) 2. Use your Windows partition (disk) to hold the kernel (and the driver files), use loadlin to start the installation process. As I haven't installed lately the following is perhaps not accurate: To be able to install the base packages (so apt-get will work) to /, you will have to format at least one partition as a native linux fs (e.g. ext2). But for the installation process to be able to read the base packages, you must not wipe your current vfat partition. To get out of this paradox, make some space, by deleting (uninstalling) most windows programs, use fips, or (partition magic) to repartition and create a small vfat partition that can hold the base packages. Start installation (loadlin), (partition and) format hda1 as ext2, install base from the other vfat partion, and the rest from the net. Untested, just the way I would go about and do it. Good Luck! -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpb3uF9HHbjD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: so how do the pros read all those .gz docs, zless?
On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 08:13:42AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: Lots of /usr/share/doc's are in .gz format. What does Joe Average do to read them, zcat, zless, etc. over and over? (Nifty me of course uses emacs' dired's v with auto-compression-mode on. Seems to be ideal. However then one encounters patches of HTML docs, which seem best suited for galeon, mozilla, not w3...) w3m handles .gz and html nicely. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpWwrrTcXYTo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Frame Buffer Query
On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 06:29:27AM +0200, Oliver Fuchs wrote: On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Jijo Jose A wrote: XFree86 Version 3.3.6 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300) Hi, first of all I suggest to upgrade XFree86 Version3.something to Version4.something ... here you have a support for S3 cards ... 4.1 does not support S3 4.2 does support some S3 cards. Set the HorizSync VertRefresh in the Monitor section of /etc/X11/XF86Config to values that reflect you monitors capabilities. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpC2e0ZWtiwB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: will configuration files get overwritten?
On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 05:06:52AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: I hear some configuration files shouldn't be edited by hand, but should instead have dkpg-reconfigure run on them. The general case is like this. If you edit a config file, then you will be asked if you want to keep your customized version when you upgrade the package that owns the file in question. Will such files have warning messages every time in them saying how one should edit them, and also if the next time I update the package if they will get overwritten or not? Some packages ask at configuration time (debconf or whatever) if you want the configuration files of those packages to be managed by the package system (X and dexconf is an example of this). If you chose to let these packages be automatically (by your answers to debconf) configured, then they will contain such warnings. E.g. some of the many cron.daily etc. files. On my system the only thing in /etc/cron.daily/ that resembled what you mean was in /etc/cron.daily/standard # This is a configration file. You are invited to edit # it and maintain it on your own. You'll have to do # that if you don't like the default policy # wrt. rotating logfiles (i.e. with large logfiles # weekly and daily rotation may interfere). If you edit # this file and don't let dpkg upgrade it, you have full # control over it. But in this case the don't let dpkg upgrade it in the last sentence only means that you chose (the default) to keep your own version when asked when the package is upgraded. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgp29DkweMjpc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Unidentified subject!
On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 09:38:38PM -0500, Kent West wrote: If you have sudo installed (you *do* have it installed, don't you?) and have your user configured with enough permissions, you might can simply sudo passwd root. If anyone configure sudo with what you call enough permissions, they thereby defeats the whole purpose of sudo, and in addition makes it easier for a hacker to become root. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpXPWTOoSHvK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Beginning to try to secure my box.
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 10:06:30PM +1200, arthur_dent wrote: I am trying to begin to secure my P.C.. It's only a home computer but may [...] One of these is portmap. I notice this is enabled by default (I think) on Woody. Can I safely uninstall this service/program without affecting my p.c.? Yes. Also they recomend disabling nfs...I have nfs-common and nfs-kernel-server installed. Can I safely disable these too? Yes. I dont require them for apt-get updates etc? No. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpTr4eKdANFW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Auto-update .twmrc?
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 06:29:48PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On 31-May-2002 Jeffrey Chimene wrote: I think the answer is you can't, but I'll ask anyway: Is there any way to auto-update .twmrc when new software's installed? I think the answer is no because twm doesn't implement an *include* directive for .twmrc. I don't want to switch window managers: this is a memory constrained system and twm seems to be a nice compromise between functions and memory. The debian menu documentation describes customization of menus when the window manager implements an *include* directive. The problem is you either need an include directive or you need a spot in the wm which stats the file and re-reads it occasionally. I missed the beginning of this thread, but I have implemented an auto-update mechanism for .twmrc though. Menu-hooks from /etc/X11/twm/menudefs.hook are concatenated with some sections with my personal settings into ~/.twmrc A few scripts in ~/bin/ let my thus change the way my favorite applications are called by twm (my need for flexibility come from using different terminals with different resolutions). These scripts have entries in the twm-menus. Mail me off-list if you want examples. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpaPV4rgaWZz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: woody is killing me
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 06:16:10AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: OK, I'll fess up. I am dying over here with woody's recent release resolved for real? I don't know that it is as simple as doing another apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade as I've already tried that one. What next? apt-get dist-upgrade -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpaMVd831oob.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PST to mutt
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 11:33:13PM -0700, Jeff wrote: steev, 2002-May-27 02:21 -0400: I have been searching for a way to convert my mails from my .pst from my windows box to my new and improved linux ( :))) ) mutt mailbox. I I think you're in for a load of work on this task. An idea I have is if you have an IMAP server available that you can move all the mail onto with the Windows mail client, you could then access the IMAP folders with Mutt or fetchmail and pull them into your mbox/maildir folders. Or, if the IMAP server is the new linux box, just configure it to put folders (files) in $HOME/mail/. When I converted .pst files, I think I simply took one folder at a time and put it on the imap server and. mv /var/mail/my_user_name ~/mail/ Recent post has implied that OE use mbox format, (but cannot handle folders larger than 5 Mb correctly), importing to OE and just moving the folders (files) is another way if there is no IMAP server available (without dial-up and transferring 250 Mb twice). -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpxhVchAfDwc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: High density text on console
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 03:11:52PM -0500, dman wrote: On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 03:30:10PM -0400, Mike Dresser wrote: | Just wondering if anyone knows of a video card that supports very high | density text in console. | | The card I'm using(Trident 9880) does 132x60, but I'm looking for | something smaller, as this still feels large even on a 14 monitor. | | Anyone know of video cards that have these funky VESA modes that go that | high? My SiS 6326 (a cheap AGP card) supports [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm using the vesa framebuffer (requires recompiling the kernel even though the docs say otherwise, IME). I use 0x31B as the vga= parameter to my kernel. I can certainly fit a lot of text on the screen. Far more than 60 lines vertically, and I don't know how many wide. ~stty size | Is there even a VESA mode that high? :D | | I looked through SVGA.txt, but it doesn't seem to help me much VESA and VGA are different. VGA is text-based, VESA is graphics-based. Look at fb/vesafb.txt.gz instead. You can also try the tridentfb driver, but I think it is brand new and not stable yet. I use framebuffers on the console at 1864x1400 in 60 Hz, and (more often) 1600x1200 at 60 Hz. I prefer to waste real screen estate on a nice font though (Sun12x22). PS. After a kernel upgrade (don't remember to what kernel) my customized boot argument to the fb driver (See the fb/framebuffer.txt for making custom mode lines) didn't work any more (just a blank screen), so now I have a boot script to get 1864x1400. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpWdUJau18D3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Installing advanced library versions safely?
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 04:33:58PM -0400, Dan Muller wrote: told that I need expat or libxml = 1.8.3. Neither potato nor woody are up to libxml 1.8.3. (I was considering upgrading to woody before I noticed this -- not a decision to be taken lightly, since I live behind a modem!) (And finally...) My questions: What's the best way to go about getting and installing libxml 1.8.3 or greater, given that it's not available as a package -- or if it *is* available as a package, it'll be in a distribution that I don't want to point dselect at? (I already went through a few hours of insanity when I made the mistake of pointing dselect at 'testing' temporarily.) Let me answer in a general way, since I have no knowledge of the specifics of libxml, its dependencies, when it will make it into unstable etc. 1. The apt in woody can be instructed to grab packages from different releases (stable, testing, unstable). In some cases, a package will have dependencies on many packages that also have to be grabbed from testing or unstable, so installing that package will essentially upgrade (almost) the whole system. There is nothing inherently problematic with such mixed system, it will just be not so thoroughly tested since it will be pretty unique. AFAIK you can install the apt from woody without upgrading the whole system to woody, but do check that. (As woody is close to a official release, you might want to upgrade to woody anyway). 2. Another approach is to use unofficial sources for apt. E.g. I have a list for daily builds of wine in /etc/apt/sources.list. I don't know how many software projects make daily builds available in deb archive like this. 3. Install binaries (or from source) into /usr/local. The debian package management system will never install files in /usr/local so this is the place for your own installs. Stow is probably a good helper here. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpIF1qHzJz3l.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Watch TV Card over remote X?
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 05:17:13PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing I'm curious about though: Can you forward sound through an X session? I think W-s XP can send the sound through their cheap-ass new, incredible remote desktop, and I hate seeing them do something we can't in an area where they're otherwise completely outclassed. The standard way of doing it is to run a sound server locally and have the X application forward to the port the sound server listens to. I haven't done it myself, though. The esound daemon (esd) supports sending audio to a remote esd running on another machine. For programs that don't supports esd directly, you can start them using esddsp to capture their output to /dev/dsp and send it through esd. Bryan Voss -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgppVp3fx1fiM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: some stranges things about apt-get install/remove
On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 12:54:26PM +0200, Francois Chenais wrote: Hello, I have installed tomcat/tomcat4/tomcat4-webapps/cocoon2/cocoon2-examples than remove them to make a new clean installation. After apt-get remove, some tomcat directories and file still there. use apt-get --purge remove to remove the configuration files of a package. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpcsQo9y8aTy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Root SSH permitted by default (was: how does root run a graphical prog)
On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 07:44:10PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 01:23:20PM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 08:26:11PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: Like the document says, regularly su'ing to root from an account makes compromising that account essentially equivalent to compromising root anyway. How so? Regularly sudo'ing, sure, since that uses the user's password as a (hopefully limited) root password. On the contrary, since sudo'ing does not require the use of root's frequent use of sudo will never reveal the root password. No sane person will setup sudo to give unlimited root access, that would defeat the whole purpose with sudo. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgp5tWS7aIl9S.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Root SSH permitted by default (was: how does root run a graphical prog)
On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 01:55:24PM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 07:44:10PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: Do you check for processes running under your uid every time you run su? There's (obviously) something I'm still missing here... Why is that relevant? su only raises the priviliges of a single session, as can be readily observed by opeining two xterms, running su in one, and trying to 'touch /bin/su' in the other. The only thing that I can think of is for someone to update your .bashrc (or whatever) with a line saying alias su='/bin/su ; /tmp/do-something-evil' (or directing su to an equivalent script), but even that would still be running do-something-evil outside of the su session and, therefore, as your normal account, not as root. What about an alias for su to a script that appears to be su but actually logs (or mails) the root password. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgp8nP81KwX1a.pgp Description: PGP signature
wrapping [was: Re: disable paragraph flows in mozilla?]
On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 03:40:47PM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote: The reason most people suggest 72 is that traditionally, terminals are 80 characters wide, and 72 leaves enough room to be quoted with four times. Although I actually have a terminal (can't say I use it much though), I sometimes wonder if email conventions should be derived from limitations of such ancient hardware. In some sense, its a good practice to require as little as possible from the clients, but is 80x25 a limit that anyone is facing anymore? I guess new limits come with pocket computers, mobile telephones, and whatever means people read their mail with these days. So, a better argument for wrapping lines at 72 chars would perhaps be that it make the text easier to read (even if you have real screen estate that could handle a lot more). -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpbwhjvTt2oG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Small footprint window manager
On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 08:27:52AM +0200, Miroslav Mazurek wrote: Thirdly, is there a way to use that box as X terminal? For checking email and writing text, a 386 with 8 Mb ram is perfectly OK as X terminal. For browsing the webb, the graphics chip is crucial. An accelerated chip with 1 Mb of RAM (for 16 bits), could be very useable. For more info on X-terminals try www.ltsp.org -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpJHCgKKI6fw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Colors in term?
On Thu, May 09, 2002 at 09:36:44PM +0200, Jan Johansson wrote: What's the value of the TERM environment variable? env|grep TERM should tell you, at least under bash. TERM=vt220 BitchX gives me color tho. but MC, ls and stuff does not. ~infocmp vt220 | grep color ~infocmp | grep color colors#8, cols#132, it#8, lines#24, pairs#64, ~/doc/musikinfocmp ansi-color-2-emx | grep color # Reconstructed via infocmp from file: /usr/share/terminfo/a/ansi-color-2-emx ansi-color-2-emx|ANSI.SYS color 2, colors#16, cols#80, it#8, lines#25, pairs#64, I have no colors on my (real) vt 320, has (a real) vt 220 colors? -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpX5JerTIdEK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mutliple IP addresses on single interface
On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 01:38:22PM -0400, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote: I am trying to get two IP addresses on eth0, and I am not having much luck. It works properly if I use: /sbin/ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.0.5 and here is my /etc/network/interfaces: [...] iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.4 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.0.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 gateway 192.168.0.2 How about a line auto eth0:0 here? iface eth0:0 inet static address 192.168.0.5 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.0.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 gateway 192.168.0.2 But the interface will not up with the 2nd IP at reboot. Any suggestions? I can always add the ifconfig line to a script I guess... -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpHeXvUBqxNm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OpenOffice 1.0 ,debs?
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 07:23:53AM -0700, ben wrote: On Friday 03 May 2002 04:53 am, Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Fri, 03 May 2002 17:32:24 +0800 Patrick Hsieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't find a sources.list for it, but I installed the 1.4 j2sdk from Sun's site. The only caveat is that I needed to also install libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 to satisfy it's shared library requirement. I dropped the j2sdk into /usr/local with a symlink of /usr/local/jdk to the version specific folder. The OpenOffice debian package found everything on it's own. so, is that the only choice, a manual non-deb install? to take the question further, is openoffice worth the effort? how does it differ from the last iteration of staroffice? having to resort to a java download from sun just reeks of submission to the same manner of hegemony that microshit employs. whether it's wanker mcneally or wanker gates, in both cases, there's a wanker desirous of compliance and submission. Now I might be missing something here but there are at least two other choices: a) as Chris Halls enlighted debian-user earlier today: edit /etc/openoffice/autoresponse.conf and change JavaSupport=preinstalled_or_none to JavaSupport=none then: rm -r .sversionrc .openoffice openoffice b) install OpenOffice with tarball to /usr/local. That will not require any additional, manual non-deb install of any java-thingy. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpnJj8umACI1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Re: Hard Discs and Virtual Memory ...
Speaking of which, is there a way to build a Linux Terminal on a 386 with only 60MB HDD? -Scwawcaac- What kind of terminal did you have in mind? X-terminal or character based telnet terminal in a LAN? Then it is easier to go completely diskless (www.ltsp.org). I recently made a router/firewall of a 386 SX 25 MHz 8 Mb RAM, 110 Mb harddisk. Rather tricky to install just a base system and upgrade to woody without running out of disk space, I'd say. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpVi1oawfjQ8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: CDwriter
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 04:30:44PM -0500, Brooks R. Robinson wrote: | Hi i have a question about writers. | I have just added a cdwriter to my pc (running sid) | I have also built a new kernel with scsi emulation support, but | my drives are | still detected as hdc (cdwriter samsung) and hdd (toshiba dvd) | (cdrecord -scanbus doesnt detect it). | So does someone have a short explanation on what to do or could someone | point me to a howto or any other usefull infos on debian and cdwriting? | Thanx | Florian You need to add a line into your lilo.conf to tell you kernel what drives to scsi-emulate. Put something like append = hdc=ide-scsi into you lilo.conf and re-run lilo. Or, recompile the kernel and say no to Include IDE/ATAPI CDROM support. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpCWZu3HPVKS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: problem with syslog log rotation
On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 11:42:47AM +0200, José wrote:
recently i added this to my potato 2.2r3 logrotate.conf
/var/log/syslog {
monthly
rotate 1
}
after this, i noticed that nothing have changed ! the rotation is still done
weekly with rotation 5 !
check /etc/cron.weekly/sysklogd
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Re: Problem installing SMC 8013wc NIC
On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 04:02:00PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I run Slackware's Net.i utility it reports: Eth0: WD80x3 at 0x300 00 00 c0 f1 00 8e WD 8013 IRQ 10 shared memory at 0xd - 0xd3fff [...] I may have access to a number of these similarly configured Compaq systems, and would like to try them on a Debian network of inexpensive computers, so I am hoping to find a fix using the SMC card. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Can't you just copy the kernel (and the modules, if any) from your slackware system and use that instead of the stock debian kernel? -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpjlBpoG5msj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: fb cursur disappears - howto restore
On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 05:14:24PM -0500, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote: I am using a framebuffer device. Sometimes my mouse cursor disappears and I have to reboot to get it to come back. Is there another option I can try in order to get the cursor back in my console? I use to restart gpm. rebooting should definately not be needed. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgp8MYxbmSuUE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Samba alternative
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 11:49:08AM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote: I've heard that SMB isn't really the greatest protocol for file sharing between systems on a LAN. I've also heard good things about Coda and a few strong-points about NFS. I was about to start use Coda when I realised the pretty high hardware requirements. NFS OTOH is so simple that any box can use it. Since it is in your home security might not be a priority, but NFS lacks real authentication mechanisms. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpa4uWD88ov8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Installing NFS [was: Re: starting nfs]
On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 02:36:10PM -0700, David Smead wrote: knuth:/etc# apt-get install nfs Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done E: Couldn't find package nfs There is no single package called nfs in Debian. I know apt-get works because I just picked up the nano and e3 editors. Suggestions ?? Install nfs-user-server or nfs-kernel-server. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpjbOdtYVQxN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: diskless
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 10:05:54PM -0500, dman wrote: On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 12:07:26AM +0200, Hans Ekbrand wrote: | On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 11:08:16AM -0300, Marcelo Leal wrote: | i have one FreeBSD box running diskless fine. | now, i wanna one linux box, and... | the bootp, tftp and nfs servers are the same for FreeBSD and linux. | the linux box get the kernel, but do not get the root filesystem. | why??? I'm having the same problem. Do you have a setup that works with other clients? (ie. is NFS really working for diskless clients?) In my case I see messages to the effect that the diskless machine couldn't find either the nfs or mountd RPC services and it will use the default locations. Then I get an error (101) and it says it couldn't find the root partition. I think that is a general error that might show up if the nic on the client is not recognized by the kernel. I once had an old box that etherboot could boot and get a kernel with, but Linux could not find the nics (plain old 3com509b). The boot process ended in an VFS: cannot mount root fs ... What does the kernel think of its IP and hostname? Can you ping the client from the server? | Has the kernel root-NFS compiled in (or do you use initrd) It has root-over-NFS and no modules whatsoever. If you use etherboot to boot, you also have to compile in IP: kernel level autoconfiguration. | i don't see neither the requests from inicialization messages of my | linux box! only: VFS: cannot mount root fs... put floppy disk... bla bla | bla... | | Any log messages from the NFSdaemon? None at all. The only logs on the server are successful entries from dhcpd and tftpd. This is what I can't figure out. I can mount the export from another system (that has a disk), but not from the diskless node. | www.ltsp.org is a great diskless linux project. Their documentation is | good. I'd rather do it myself. I've seen their binary packages and scripts that need to be run as root, and I'd rather be in control and understand what is going on. You don't need to run those scripts, but LTSP can be of help anyway: it comes with templates for various files in /etc that you can learn from and manually insert parts from in your existing config files. I'm also so close to success that I know the problem must be something stupid I'm overlooking. I've just noticed the use of rdev in some root-over-nfs instructions, so I'll see if that makes any difference tomorrow. In the meantime, if you have any ideas or pointers as to what error code 101 means and how I can debug this, they are greatly appreciated! rdev is not suitable for this task, according to is manpage. If you don't use etherboot and dhcp + tftp, which IMHO is the easiest way, you need to use LILO (or possibly some other bootloader). There is an example in /usr/share/doc/lilo/Manual.txt.gz You are being less diskless in that case, of course. If you use etherboot you will need to tag the kernel with mknbi. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgp8Oicft2YWv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: diskless
On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 09:46:59PM +0200, Hans Ekbrand wrote: If you use etherboot to boot, you also have to compile in IP: kernel level autoconfiguration. To clarify, any solution which involves giving IP, hostname, and network information as boot arguments to the kernel (in contrast to having that information stored in files in /etc, possibly in a ramdisk) requires the option above to be compiled in. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpN5hbm4Esa7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: diskless
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 11:08:16AM -0300, Marcelo Leal wrote: i have one FreeBSD box running diskless fine. now, i wanna one linux box, and... the bootp, tftp and nfs servers are the same for FreeBSD and linux. the linux box get the kernel, but do not get the root filesystem. why??? Has the kernel root-NFS compiled in (or do you use initrd) i don't see neither the requests from inicialization messages of my linux box! only: VFS: cannot mount root fs... put floppy disk... bla bla bla... Any log messages from the NFSdaemon? www.ltsp.org is a great diskless linux project. Their documentation is good. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpclFWkbxT6r.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How is my network-card module getting loaded?
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 03:30:05PM -0400, Craig Duncan wrote: Reboot back into 2.2.19, do an lsmod and i see 'via-rhine'. No idea what is loading it though (it doesn't appear in /etc/modutils). I've grepped everything in /etc/modutils and all the rc#.d directories and i can't find a clue as to how that module is getting loaded. How?? (I've got mostly a woody/sid system). /etc/modules holds the modules that automatically loads at boot. Have you looked there? -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpKnsHhAWX52.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: security updates for testing distibution
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 11:25:54PM +0200, Christophe Courtois wrote: Anyhow, woody will be released Real Soon Now(tm), and then the security policy will be the same as it was for potato. Does it mean too that I must update from potato rather quickly after Woody's release if I want all security releases ? Is the maintenance of potato totally stopped after 1st May ? No. Or when potato was released, slink was supported by the security team a while (a few months or so). -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpzTwnn0mCWu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: amazon search with konqueror shortcuts
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 03:42:08PM +0100, Jason Chambers wrote: Joerg Johannes wrote: OK, thanks, I think I did not make myself clear enough: What I need is the correct search-url to add to the enhanced browsing dialog. I tried to figure a general pattern out by doing some searches in all products, but the search item does not appear in the url. Only if I search in a certain category (classics, or sth else), the search item appears in the url. Any idea how to get the correct search-url for all products? joerg The reason you can't see the search data in the url is because the data is probably being submitted using the POST method (which among other things allows for larger amount of data to be sent). The way I get around this is to save a copy of the HTML page to my PC. Open the file in a text editor, and find the form method=post action=results_url tag for the relevant search box. Change the method to be GET, check the value of the action attribute and make sure it is a full url to the page not a relative one (ie it includes http://host.domian/ etc). If not edit it as necessary. Another way of doing it is to install a proxy server, run it temporarily in full log mode, and read the logs. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgp8VKCrGCWs3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Auto-X problem
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 08:18:55PM +0200, DSC Publishing, LLC wrote: Good day; I just installed Stable-Potato, and then installed packages including XFree86, and the C++ -written minimalist Window manager (sorry, I forgot the name. It advertises a *nonwindoze* look and feel, and has a bar across the bottom. Somehow, XDM also got installed. Which lends two problems. (1) I need to change the monitor specs. It won't let me do that, because I am already in X, even as root. I tried renaming /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XDM as XEM, then restarting (it got me out for the time being), and then redoing the setup but when I came back I found that the 1024x768 SVGA I had installed didn't operate, and now all I had was VGA. I had read the SVGA characteristics straight off my Win98 system, so I'm pretty sure they are right. If getting the monitor to sync is all you want, you might want to edit /etc/X11/XF86Config by hand. The relevant lines are HorizSync 30-insert you monitor max here (the kHz value) VertRefresh 50-insert the max Hz here For a complete configuration tool, try /usr/bin/xf86config (2) I don't want X to be automatic. I *like* text. How do I deconfigure XDM? I can see that it is running; I tried going to /etc/inittab and looking for the code that starts up X, but I didn't find any such code there. as root run: /usr/bin/apt-get remove xdm (This is a FAQ and there are also other ways of doing it) -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgp5ycipidX4M.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Newbie:dpkg,dselect,apt?
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 10:07:33PM +, gob wrote: I am an absolute beginner (hadn't touched Linux two weeks ago). My brother has installed Debian (kernel 2.2.19) on a partition of my laptop. I assume you have Debian 3.0 aka 'woody' by the version number on the xfree86 below. 'Woody' can be used with linux kernels in both series 2.2 and 2.4. I am trying to get X going, and through some research found that I need XFree86 4.1 for it to work with my LCD screen. He gave me a CD with xfree86-common_4.1.0-14pre15v3_all.deb on it. I have tried to install this package with no success: dpkg is the correct tool for installing a single deb like this. It is seldom used directly when have a working Debian system though, you are more or less supposed to aquire debs over the internet (or specially prepared CDs), and for that purpose the apt family of utils is extremely convenient. #apt-setup cdrom 'Bad CD, Your CD drive was detected but it does not seem to have a Debian CD in it.' (I presume this is a Debian CD as he made it on a Linux machine) The CD did not contain a debian archive of .deb files (which must have a certain directory structure, a Packages.gz file etc), but rather ONE .deb file. #apt-cdrom add 'Scanning disc for index files..Found 0 package indexes 0 source indexes E. Unable to locate any package files, perhaps this is not a Debian Disc' I also copied the file to the partition (actually into /usr/X11R6/bin) and Uh. You should never touch files in /usr (except in /usr/local). Files in this location is handled automatically by the package management system, so any change you do WILL be overwritten when upgrading. Now is this case it will won't do any harm since you did not overwrite any existing file, but use your home directory (/home/your_username/) instead. did the following: #dpkg --install xfree86-commondeb 'Preparing to replace xfree86-common...' 'Unpacking' 'Setting up' 'Installing new version of config file' (seems alright but:) #XFree86 -version 'XFree86 Version 4.0a / X Window System' (indicating to me that the previous 4.0a version is still in place)(Is there a difference between XFree86 and XFree86-common?)(X still won't work after this) You are right. There are several X packages which need to be upgraded, the X server binary itself for example, is in the package xserver-xfree86. Since you was given that CD, I assume you don't have net access from the laptop in question. (If you actually do have net access then it is so much easier: apt-get update apt-get install xserver-xfree86 would have done it.) If your brother can deliver packages via CD to you, (or you can grab them via windows dial-up) the packages you want is probably: xserver-xfree86 xserver-common I also tried dselect, choosing APT Acquisition, accidentally overwriting the sources list I already had (sort that out another day), and put file:/etc/X11R6/bin/xfreedeb stable non-free onto the list. On update, it responded with 'Err file:stable/non-free Packages File not found' (followed by a full screen of errors, ending in) 'Information about 0 packages was updated' When you get dial-up working in Debian GNU/Linux, you will want to have something like this in /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ woody main contrib non-free -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgp3Bs5A8dJE9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Newbie:dpkg,dselect,apt?
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 11:02:50PM +, gob wrote: Ah sorry I do believe I have potato. Maybe thats the origin of this quandry. That's quite a different story. There are a LOT of GRAVE dependency problems involved with installing that X-4.1.deb on potato. You must instead upgrade the whole system from potato to woody, but that is most likely not as easy as reinstalling from a 'woody' CD, as Kent suggested. On the other hand, if you just get you modem working it can be as simple as apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade and answering some configuration questions for different packages. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpvS7Py4wuxT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Apache 1.3.22 packages
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 02:09:02PM +0200, René Seindal wrote: Hi, Does anybody know where I can find debian packages for apache 1.3.22? There are some problems with mod_proxy and multiple cookies that bother users of Zope, so I need to downgrade.Unfortunately these packages seem to have disappeared completely. Apparently neither 1.3.23 nor 1.3.24 will do. Is there somewhere where one can find older packages or are they gone forever? I have 1.3.22-5 available. When I upgraded to 1.3.23 earlier today something broke so I rolled back to 1.3.22-5. You can grab them at: http://sociologi.cjb.net/cache/ -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpR4jvl4ensw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: security updates for testing distibution
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 07:28:54AM -0800, Andrew Agno wrote: Hanspeter Roth writes: But what about the testing distribution? Does it also get `implicit' security fixes by new versions? Or is it safer to stick with stable? Well, it follows the usual rules, so eventually things will filter down. In the meantime, I believe you have to grab things from unstable. Note that packages for which there have been an security fix in unstable might not be installable in testing without upgrading (a lot of) other packages to unstable, if you are unlucky. So, for convenient security, stable is the way to go. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpLqeKYmYFn5.pgp Description: PGP signature
where do answers go [was Re: XFree86 problems]
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 10:04:28PM +0200, Fañch wrote: Another question by the way: I'm not used to this list and I'm a bit confused about where my answers go to, do they get sendt to the list or to your personal address? That is up to you, your MUA and (if you have a decent MUA) the Mail-Followup-To header in the post you are responding to. Many MUA implement a list-reply function, and if yours are (looks like you're using pine, I use mutt and it has this handy list-reply function), use it. The second best option is probably the more commonly implemented group-reply function, but that might not respect the Mail-Followup-To header, and can thus cause unwanted copies to the person you are replying to. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpJ8iF1VnyU0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: security updates for testing distibution
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 10:53:52PM +0200, Hanspeter Roth wrote: Can one get security updates for the testing distribution? No. There is no such thing. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgp0sfSbtZ3Nj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: New Install
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 10:05:31AM -0600, Irish, Jon D NCCIM wrote: I am a newbie to Debian, and I am running into a problem with the initial install. I am trying to install on a Compaq Deskpro EN system. This box has an integrated Intel PRO/100 VM nic. That nic was a pain to get going with linux, until I tried Intel's own drivers. My machine would constantly hang when I downloaded large (or sometimes not so large) files. I tried lots of different kernels both in the 2.4 and 2.2 series. The problematic driver was eepro100, but I did a network install just fine, my problems started when I moved the machine to another room at work and so it might be related to certain hubs. 1. Try the eepro100 driver. But be aware that it might cause you trouble. Test it thoroughly. 2. If it does not satisfy you, go with the intels drivers. If you have trouble compiling you own kernel, perhaps I could compile one to you, (mail the off-list in that case). Debian does not list this adapter in the install routine. Intel's web site does have Linux drivers for this adapter, but they are non-Debian specific, and un-compiled at that. Being a newbie, I have no idea how to integrate these uncompiled drivers into the debian install. Would someone out there please take pity on me and provide me with step-by-step instructions on how to complete this install? TIA, Jon -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgp7GZkTEES6E.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: XF86Config location
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 04:24:30PM +0930, Tom Cook wrote: Hi all, I have just installed Berlin (from unstable) on a woody box. Now when I try to start x (with startx) I get this message: Could not find config file! - Tried: /etc/XF86Config /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config.jmelhuish /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config Given that it tried these locations it is not suprising that it didn't find it, since it is /etc/X11/XF86Config. I have tried to apt-get --reinstall install and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common xserver-svga xbase-clients xfree86-common xlibs X v4 uses /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 The xserver-xfree86 package includes the new all-cards server, it replaces the old xserver-svga. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpkWP9McrKmQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Advice on wysiwyg editor
On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 02:12:39AM -0300, Daniel Toffetti wrote: Hi ! Well, I need a wysiwyg editor a la M$ Word. The documents I'll edit are more or less as complex as one see in papers, I mean, numbered schemes, headers, footers, inserted images and tables, page numbers, footnotes, text styles, chapters, TOCs, etc. So far I'm trying with Kword, Abiword and Lyx. Abiword is better that Kword at importing M$ Word documents. Lyx seems to be the perfect tool for the task, but it lacks (to my taste) a little feedback. Neither Kword or Abiword supports footnotes. For footnotes and WYSIWYG, you can use Lyx or OpenOffice. While OpenOffice has a somewhat strange UI (It was even worse in StarOffice 5.2, which tried to take control over your desktop) it has all features you mention and unlike Lyx, it *feels* like MS Word. Some features of MS Word is missing of course, and it a resource hog. My experience is with version 641C. OK, I'll admit it, I believe it's very powerful, but I find it UGLY :) Select a good-looking screen font, then most of the screen will be good-looking. Some sort of Print Preview would be very valuable. As others have already stated, there is. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpJjxx0FQdIw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Swap files on Reiserfs
On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 03:53:30PM +0700, Oki DZ wrote: Hi, Has any of you installed your swapfiles on reiserfs...? No, why would anyone not use dedicated partions for swap? -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgp3aLjoLvdqR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: putting a kernel onto a floppy (w/out kpkg...)
On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 06:28:49PM +, Martin Edward John Waller wrote: Hello, I've made a kernel the 'traditonal' way (it's a freeswan thing) but I want it to boot from floppy. It's installed the kernel and rurn lilo - how do I get it to boot with that kernel from a floppy (w/out kpkg!) I know of two ways: lilo (or any other bootloader) or rdev. I have done this in order to boot diskless clients which mount root over NFS, but the same methods should apply regardless of where / is located. For lilo, modify and try this little script: -- KERNEL=bzImage KERNELPATH=/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/ /sbin/mke2fs /dev/fd0 [ -d /fd ] || mkdir /fd mount /dev/fd0 /fd cp /boot/boot.b /fd cp $KERNELPATH$KERNEL /fd/kernel echo 'image=/fd/kernel label=linux append=root=/dev/hda2' | /sbin/lilo -C - -b /dev/fd0 -i /fd/boot.b -c -m /fd/map -d 150 umount /fd - The other alternative is rdev, which I have not used, but it seems rather straight forward, and probably what you want to try first. See man rdev (in the util-linux package). -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgprMN5FInLI4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OpenOffice (was Re: Advice on wysiwyg editor)
On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 03:08:36PM -0300, Daniel Toffetti wrote: Neither Kword or Abiword supports footnotes. For footnotes and WYSIWYG, you can use Lyx or OpenOffice. While OpenOffice has a somewhat strange UI (It was even worse in StarOffice 5.2, which tried to take control over your desktop) it has all features you mention and unlike Lyx, it *feels* like MS Word. Some features of MS Word is missing of course, and it a resource hog. My experience is with version 641C. I'm downloading build 641c right now. I would like to know if there is any issue with installing such a big program which is not a Debian package, regarding future maintenance, upgrade, uninstallation, etc. In the archives I've found some issues with the installation, but already solved anyway. There is not much to it, I think. The menu system will not know about it, so you will have to manually configure the windowmanager. And do *not* use it under twm! The menus in OpenOffice is unusable with the mouse (you can use the arrow keys, but that is not fun). I have tried Icewm and KDE, the menus in OpenOffice works under both. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgprJBFmrCrKW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: putting a kernel onto a floppy (w/out kpkg...)
On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 02:00:46PM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: hi ya hans hummm... i do the simple dumb way # vi /etc/lilo.conf # change the boot option # # boot=/dev/hda boot=/dev/fd0 # ... # lilo and reset it back to hda and rerun lilo for good measure that lilo'd floppy sometimes boots..sometimes not.. seems to be hardware dependent ?? ( didnt go figure out why it fails ) This places lilo on the boot sector of the floppy, but the kernel still resides on the harddisk. It will fail if the kernel on the harddisk is moved, replaced or damaged. If you have another OS or bootloader on the harddisk that you don't want to tamper with, the above offers an easy way to give lilo the first chance to boot. But as a backup option, it is not very useful. if it does fail... as was said earlier dd if=/boot/vmlinuz-2. of=/dev/fdo bs=1024 rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/hda1 (or wherever / is located ) For backup (recovery) purposes, rdev is probably the best tool. Lilo can also do it (a little tricker though, but offers more flexibility). -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgprxIJ5L3fwo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Installing Debian or Linux
On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 04:22:24PM +0800, Craig Sampson wrote: On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 22:41:51 +1100, John Lynch wrote: It has a very easy install with good hardware autodetection and has probably the best manuals I have ever seen with a Linux distribution. Can you download SuSe for free over the internet? Yes. Sort of. You can *not* download iso-files and burn your own CDs (Suses yast program (hardware detection and more, I think) is not GPLed). You can do an installation over FTP, though. But that requires of course that you have a (good) net connection on the machine that you are going to install it on. I have never tried SuSe. Learned from Debian (v 2.1). -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpzTV0OAuNK9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Disabling X from starting up
On Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 10:11:18AM -0500, Trey Gruel wrote: On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, Silvester van der Bijl wrote: Please help, I just installed debian, compiled a custom kernel and tried to reboot the system. Everything works great, except X starts up. Since I didn't configure X yet I get a garbled screen. I tried to exit by pressing ALT+CTRL+BACKSPACE, but it seems it restarts every time. Does anyone now how to disable or abort the graphical login manager so I can first configure it ? check your /etc/inittab. it probably is setting you to runlevel 5 (xdm) with a line that looks like: id:5:initdefault: to boot up without x, change it to runlevel 3: id:3:initdefault: -- trey This is simply wrong. In Debian runlevels 2-5 are identical by default. Stopping the Display manager is a FAQ, there are several ways of doing it, including deinstalling it apt-get remove [x|g|k]dm or removing the startup scripts by the command update-rc.d, see man update-rc.d -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgprh54hlzJPC.pgp Description: PGP signature
SUN12x22 font
On Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 08:28:18AM -0600, ktb wrote: I'm messing with console fonts right now. I've heard mention of SUN12x22 fonts as being a nice one. I don't seem to have that font listed in /usr/share/consolefonts.=20 I have it compiled in the kernel. First off is that font able to work with Intel or does it work on only Sun boxes? Works on Intel also. I've been beating around=20 google and can't find anything and the archives are slow as molasses. =20 Once I have the font installed it looks like I just stick it in=20 /etc/console-tools/config to activate it. Is that correct? I have never messed with /etc/console-tool/config, just compiled it in and it gets used from the very start of the boot process. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpiBv9yiPoFO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 3c5x9setup adapter failure on isa etherlink 3
On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 09:14:56PM -0500, Jason M. Harvey wrote: hello, i have an isa 3com etherlink III. i had another one before, on the same PC... as long as i specifed irq7 in modconf it worked fine. this one will not work. i ran the 3c5x9utils package, and it told me it was on irq5. so, i changed everything i told it to use irq7 to irq5, and it still fails. oh, by fails, i mean i do not get a link light when i plug it into other know-working ethernet devices. so, i used 3c5x9utils to tell it to use irq7 instead, but it still doesn't get a link light. nothing else is on irq7 (/proc/interupts) or even 5 for that matter. this 3com will not work on irq5 or irq7. when i ran 3c5x9setup, i got: Interrupt sources are pending. Adapter Failure indication. 3c5x9 found at 0x300. Indication enable is 00fe, interrupt enable is 009c. has anyone seen that line about failure before? i can't seem to find if that failure is EEPROM related or a physical problem. this nic was given to me, so... any thoughts?! My guess: Broken NIC. I had one such card that worked, but after I had taken it out and putting back a few times, the light would never go on again (I guess a was to brute with it). On a working nic the light should go on immediately at power on, before any OS is even loaded, so what ever IRQ you try for it will not cure that. On the other hand, it might be some problem with the EEPROM, which could be cured. In my case, I did a successfull rewrite of the EEPROM, and after that there where no error messages whatsoever, but still no light and of course no connection. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgp31jdpJspmB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Trident display card
On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 12:50:58PM +0100, Sebastiaan wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Hugo van der Merwe wrote: 00:0b.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems TGUI 9660/968x/968x (rev d3) I tried the xfree4 trident driver, but it didn't display quite right. (The display was ... um, fragmented, though the mouse cursor moved fine, iirc.) I have really no idea if this has anything to do with your problem, but I just patched my kernel up to 2.4.18 and there was an option for trident videocards: CONFIG_FB_TRIDENT Perhaps it helps a bit? That option concers the FrameBuffer (FB). You might try using X with FB, but there will be no acceleration under X. But that might of course be better then fragmented display. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpcWVnhYMx0D.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: svgatextmode and ATI rage 128 video cards
On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 06:11:37AM -0600, Curt Daugaard wrote: On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 12:28:25AM +0100, Hans Ekbrand wrote: On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 04:11:15PM -0600, Curt Daugaard wrote: Has anyone on the list had any luck in configuring svgatextmode with a video cards in the ATI Rage 128 series? I recently changed from an S3 card to the 128 Pro but can't figure out what settings to use now. I'd hate to part with the higher resolutions. (I can't find anything decent in the alternate kernel video modes.) What do you mean by the last sentence? With frambuffers you have complete controll over the video modes. See the section: 6. Converting XFree86 timing values info frame buffer device timings in /usr/src/kernel-sourcex.y.z/Documentation/fb/framebuffers.txt Sorry I wasn't clearer. I don't want to give up accelerated video under X which I would have to do if I go the fb route, as I understand it. But maybe I'm missing something. If you think that using framebuffers for the console would somehow make your (non FB) X-server to be unaccelerated, then yes I think you have missunderstood something. FB can substitute SVGATextMode, and as long as you don't use it as X-server you will still have accelerated X. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpIHXqLgxdgc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: XFree86 and NVidia GeForce 2 MX 400
On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 04:08:44PM +0100, Anna Lindgren wrote: Hi, I¹m a totally fresh user to Debian, have tried Red Hat before, but wanted to try out Debian instead, but I seem not to be able to install the Xserver. I have a NVidia GeForce 2 MX graphics card, which is not supported in Xfree86-3.3.6 that is included in my installation package. I cannot start X and I am not able to configure it so it works. Tried to download Xfree86-4.2.0 and a new Nvidia driver from their homepage, but when I try to update Xfree, I get a message that GLIBC2_2¹ that is required is nowhere to find. The Debian package management system is there for you to use. It automates dependencies control and if you have a good internet connection, automatically downloads what you need. The problem is that potato, the current stable release, uses an older version of libc (2.1). You probably want to upgrade from potato to woody, that is currently the testing release. I tried uninstalling Debian and reinstalling it without any components for X, and the install the new Xfre86-4.2.0, but still get the same message. I want to be able to run X, which I could without any problems using Red Hat, only had other problems with that, which is why I would like to try Debian instead, please, someone, help me get my Debian system running I¹m not a Linux expert (yet), so please explain in an easy way what I should do.. To upgrade to Woody, see http://www.de.debian.org/releases/testing/i386/release-notes/ and edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the lines that mention stable In Sweden, I use the following lines in sources.list: deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ woody main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free But you might find the following better. deb http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian/ woody main non-free deb http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian-non-US/ woody/non-US main contrib non-free Or, as you seem to be located in northern Sweden, try deb http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/ woody main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free which is located in Luleå. After editing lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, try apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpdtw81gCbs4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Trouble after installing
On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 05:28:29PM +0100, Ronald Castillo wrote: And.. Another question.. Is there any way I can shut down temporarily my LAN connection and later turn it back on again? I read about using Ifconfig, but it seems like it is o longer available for download.. If you have a working network connection, you have ifconfig working. ifdown/ifup are shortcuts for what you want. see man ifdown. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpvl98d8PgcP.pgp Description: PGP signature
good use of framebuffer [was: Re: Dual head howto?]
On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 06:15:58AM +, Simon Hepburn wrote: Marc Wilson wrote: I know how to set X up to use the second head on the G400/450/550... what I don't understand is the fascination people have with using a framebuffer. What's the attraction? What does it do for you? Is it just to get these annoying console sizes? The idea of unaccelerated X has such appeal? You are not alone... No sane person should use frame buffers if they have the choice. Like your mama told you: Just say no. Use text-mode and X11, and be happy. 1. I see no point in using framebuffers (FB) with X. 2. I make a good use of FB in console-mode. The alternative is SVGATextMode, which I used quite happily until FB was included in the official kernel-sources. I will not go back though. The thing is that modern (my Matrox Millenium might not count as modern anymore, but I think the same applies even to modern ones) graphics card have too slow text mode clocks. With FB in 1600x1200 and that cool SUN12x22 font, I have a nice console with 133 cols and 54 rows, that text-mode just can't give (with Matrox anyway). (If I want more chars I can use 1864x1400 which gives 155x63, but on a 17 I find that a little too small for regular use.) -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpCdmi2WqAqI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: svgatextmode and ATI rage 128 video cards
On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 04:11:15PM -0600, Curt Daugaard wrote: Has anyone on the list had any luck in configuring svgatextmode with a video cards in the ATI Rage 128 series? I recently changed from an S3 card to the 128 Pro but can't figure out what settings to use now. I'd hate to part with the higher resolutions. (I can't find anything decent in the alternate kernel video modes.) What do you mean by the last sentence? With frambuffers you have complete controll over the video modes. See the section: 6. Converting XFree86 timing values info frame buffer device timings in /usr/src/kernel-sourcex.y.z/Documentation/fb/framebuffers.txt -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpjLzBv6oiVX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: inappropriate racist and other offensive material
On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 10:02:34PM -0700, user list wrote: This whole discussion is really a bit adolescent. The joke is racist. It is about being black. Yes. If this sort of crap stays in the distribution, it goes off of all of my machines. I am both deeply offended and deeply embarrassed that Debian has no more sense than to put this stuff on everyone's machine. What do mean by put this stuff on everyone's machine?. I sure hope it is not on mine, as far as I know, *you* have to install the package in question, or it won't touch your machine. I was offended by another package surfraw, and I removed it. But that sure made me think twice about Debian. My position is that as long as the offending packages are a marginal part of the distrobution, and I don't install those packages, I can contiue to use it. But there sure is a limit for how many packages one can stand to try and be offended by. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 sön feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgphRVSM8pSM4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: NEWBIE TIP #110 [was Re: suggestion[data in .sig file]]
On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 01:44:40PM -1000, Joseph Dane wrote: Hans == Hans Ekbrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hans This tip is bad. It does not work. The first line makes the Hans following fail (or, I think, in case of bad security on client Hans succeed but by-pass the ssh-tunnel). no, it works as expected. if the tip had been client ssh -X server server export DISPLAY=client:0.0# DON'T DO THIS!!! server netscape then that would have been bad. but that's not what was in the post. Since no one else has disputed this post yet, I think it is time to do so. I have used X-forwarding over SSH enough to know that you need not and you should not set $DISPLAY manually. I fail to understand why you came up with the example above. No one have suggested or commented any such thing. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 s?n feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgp7rU9UuCHIs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: which command to configure x window?
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 06:05:14PM +0800, linuxman wrote: hi, Who can tell me which command to configure X window system in debian/woody? I can not find XF86Setup, and xf86config is too old:-) dpkg-reconfigure your-xserver-goes-here xserver-xfree86 is probably your xserver. linuxman = Linux is all my life -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 s?n feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpGooGxmKk5i.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Smart Debian Backup?
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 04:24:29AM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: if you move all your config and isntall db files to known directories.. and if you descipline yourself and your users to put data only into /usr/local or /home than you're all set... just backup /etc and /home and /usr/local... ( everything else should have been installed from cdrom ) and if you wanna backup pending emails etc..etc.. more stuff to look in /var/*... Especially /var/spool, /var/mail, /var/log and /var/lib (and possibly /var/www). - problem is people put stuff where they like... - some packages still put stuff in what they consider the right place which may or may not be what you consider the right place Does not the Debian Policy and the FHS eliminate such problems? Are there debian packages that don't follow the FHS? -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 s?n feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgp2KkuVbAho5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: UNSUBSCRIBE
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 05:44:25AM -0800, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote: On Thu, 7 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UNSUBSCRIBE [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Baloo What about a procmail rule that auto-replied that off-list? I for one would happily use it :-) -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 s?n feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgp3gALiwtNWa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: NEWBIE TIP #110 [was Re: suggestion[data in .sig file]]
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 08:31:09AM -1000, Joseph Dane wrote: Hans == Hans Ekbrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hans Since no one else has disputed this post yet, I think it is Hans time to do so. I have used X-forwarding over SSH enough to know Hans that you need not and you should not set $DISPLAY manually. no, you don't need to set DISPLAY. but you said: quote This tip is bad. It does not work. The first line makes the following fail (or, I think, in case of bad security on client succeed but by-pass the ssh-tunnel). /quote which is incorrect. Not so fast, mr Yakamoto Your citation of my first post contains two statements: This tip is bad. It does not work. The first line makes the following fail Which is *correct*. (At least in Woody, and in my .sig I clearly stated I was running Woody.) The second part, the parenthesis, which includes the reservation I think: (or, I think, in case of bad security on client succeed but by-pass the ssh-tunnel). Is, as you have taught me, wrong. Thank you. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 s?n feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpB3ljfFVDou.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: NEWBIE TIP #110 [was Re: suggestion[data in .sig file]]
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 11:21:28AM -0600, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: * Crispin Wellington ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: On Thu, 2002-03-07 at 18:13, Hans Ekbrand wrote: ... I fail to understand why you came up with the example above. No one have suggested or commented any such thing. I wasn't subscribed when the first post came in so Im exempt. But I agree completely. Leave out the export DISPLAY. Doing the above *works* but bypasses any X forwarding ssh sets up for you and sends the X forwarding directly to the client without encryption. In fact the default DISPLAY setting on a -X login is connected to the server itself... Crispin, it does *not* work, at least not in Woody. And, as Joseph Dane pointed out, it will *not* bypass, the ssh tunnel. Crispin, Hans: I think you need to work on your reading comprehension. Which part of ssh won't forward X connections if *local* DISPLAY is not set escapes you? Try this at home: client # export DISPLAY= client # ssh -X server server # netscape If local $DISPLAY is not set, ssh assumes X is not running on local machine, so there is nowhere to forward X connections *to*. Is that so hard to figure out? No, it's not. But: 1. The tip did not work. 2. Even *if* it had work, it would not have been a very good NEWBIE tip. IMHO a much better tip is client~ssh -X server server~netscape *Not* messing with $DISPLAY is a *good* rule of thumb for a newbie. There are situations where it is needed, though. I have self used it once or twice. An experienced unix user would probably know to try both, but a newbie will simply turn around and decide that Great Debian Newbie Tips database is not worth crap. Indeed. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 s?n feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpNLmhvLvruw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: XDMCP Howto?
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 01:37:02PM -0600, Donald R. Spoon wrote: several years at random times. I have not been able to find the magic to get several X-servers running on different terminals (vt7, vt8, etc) yet, so the steps below are restricted to a machine that has only ONE X-server session capability. I know it can be done, but just don't know how...:( This might be trivial to you, but have you tried: ~X :1 vt9 -query foo -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 s?n feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpqzOCUM09co.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: unable to mount ide-scsi drives
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 02:29:36PM -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: I recently recompiled my kernel (2.4.17) with ide-scsi support and no ide-cd. cdrecord recognizes both of my CD-RW drives just fine. However, I can't seem to mount them. I've tried using both the sr and sd devices, but no matter what I try, I just can't mount a CD. Any suggestions? TIA. Try /dev/scd0 -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 s?n feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpNokcmuqsiU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: compile 2.4.17 kernel error
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 04:27:10PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 05 Mar 2002, Hans Ekbrand wrote: On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 04:33:42PM +0800, Eric. He wrote: I compile kernel-2.4.17 to support my ac'97 sound card of intel i815e. But i can't compile the kernel use make bzIamgecommand. the error lists: drivers/sound/sounddrivers.o(.data+0x194):undefined referecne to 'local symbols in discarded section .text.exit' make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1 Sounds like that famous binutils incompability with recent kernels. Two alternatives: upgrade bintuils, or uncomment a line in /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.17/arch/i386/vmlinux.lds, in the /* Sections to be discarded */ comment out this line: *(.text.exit) I also use the binutils_2.11.92.0.10-4_i386.deb,the same error takes place. And i compile other 2.4.x kernel older than 2.4.17,the error still takes place. what can i do? You have not tried any of my tips and you want more? (In my woody, binutils is 2.11.92.0.12.3-6) What reasons do you have not trying them? From what I have understood, the error lies not with binutils but rather in the kernel-source but was not triggered until a new version of binutils came out. -- Note that I use Debian version 3.0 Linux emac140 2.4.17 #1 s?n feb 10 20:21:22 CET 2002 i686 unknown Hans Ekbrand pgpeFBHW0bNEC.pgp Description: PGP signature
