Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge
I've seen several warnings now about making sure to change testing to etch in /etc/apt/sources.lst once Etch goes stable. (For testing purposes I've just always left it etch.) But what if what I want is to keep our machines at testing? It seems to have the latest and grooviest versions of stuff. So how badly would I be shooting myself in the foot if I changed etch to testing in /etc/apt/sources.lst and just left it that way? Have a look at this link: http://people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/debian_choosing_distribution.html It answers a lot of questions that relate to stable, testing and unstable. Scan down the page until you hit some graphs (about midway) showing Maintenance Problems vs. Time. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Etch/testing sources
This puzzles me. I've been running etch/testing since shortly after Sarge went stable. I made sure to edit sources.lst to make sure it points to testing, and not etch, so I can continue to receive the latest packages after Etch goes stable. What happens to testing when it becomes Lenny? I expect there will be a bit of a bump initially, as everything since the freeze gets dumped into Lenny , but for those of us that are comfortable using the testing repo is there something extraordinary to be aware of now? You might find this page interesting: http://people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/debian_choosing_distribution.html Keep scrolling down the page for some graphs that show bumps when versions change. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: howto for setting up an debian home network router
On Mon, 2007-29-01 at 18:02 +, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: On Sunday 28 January 2007 22:13, Kristian Lampen wrote: I have not found a suitable HOWTO or tutorial for this task. May be because there is no need to provide a tutorial for such a simple thing. Dealing for five years with Linux and networking and not knowing how to share an internet connection and setup a DHCP server is quite amazing. You may ask simple things (that's the purpose of MLs), but dont claim your five years experience then. Anybody else get 3 copies of this? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple copies (was Re: howto for setting ...)
Anybody else get 3 copies of this? I've gotten 2 copies of some list emails for the past couple of days. Oh, well then. Lucky me! I got to read it 3 times. Guess I win. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security
Firewalling routers are $50 and do a reasonably good job. Any recommendations? What are you using? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security
I use a Netgear RP614v2, but don't like it. The Linux geek fave is the Linksys WRT54GL, since it runs Linux and can be upgraded with 3rd-party binaries. It's a wireless access port, but also has 4 RJ45 jacks and has a firewall. US$54 at Newegg. Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installsand security
to create a default set of rules that would work for many people. The default set of rules only needs to get people through the installation safely. After that, they can alter them with their favourite program, as needed. The rules here: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ap-fw-security-update.en.html entered at the console (and before running tasksel) gives access to security updates and nothing else. It needs DNS and only works with HTTP URLs. Maybe a user could be told (during installation) to enter this (or something like it) before selecting packages. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security
Many people are installing Debian from the internet. Yet, the Securing Debian Manual suggests no contact with the internet until the installation is secure. The manual states that installing the OS off the web is not the best idea (Section 3.3 found here: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch3.en.html ) Is the manual WRONG about net installs? Are net installs (let's say for a Desktop environment) totally without vulnerability risks? When, during an installation, do/should people think about security/vulnerability issues of the software they are installing? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security
Did you *read* the link you posted? Yes, I've read/seen this Appendix F section in various versions. Up until the last version that I read (version 3.10 of last November) there has been a FIXME: test this setup to see if it works properly. Didn't exactly inspire me to use it as an aid for net installations! Now, I'm seeing that the January version of the document no longer has the FIXME in it. Sorry for missing that the FIXME had gone missing! Shouldn't the setup of a firewall be part of the installation routine? Perhaps prior to running tasksel, some script could query the user about using a firewall and/or help him/her set an appropriate one up? Yeah, I know this sounds odd, but when a user is doing a installation and there is not a mention of firewalls during the procedure, and when the user reads the Installation manual and there is only one mention of firewalls (not in the context of the actual installation), I think that the user is not being fully informed at exactly the time he or she needs as much information as possible. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on Toshiba 2500CDS?
On Tue, 2007-16-01 at 12:15 -0800, Mitchell Verter wrote: I just got a great deal on a Toshiba 2500CDS: The seller told me that he does not know the user/password. Is there a way to crack this? Are you asking about a BIOS password, a Windows password or is there already a Linux OS on the computer that wants a user name and a password? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Swapping archives between similar debian PC?
I want to give the packages from my fast work internet connected PC to my slow connected home PC. This link discusses one way of doing that! http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7455.html Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to cut/crop a part of a PDF file
Scribus is probably your best bet for actually importing a PDF in any friendly way -- I think they were at least working on that, not sure if it is really usable Hmm... never heard of it. Looks interesting. I don't know how to make it read PDF, tho. Coming in late here! 1) In Scribus, you will want to make a graphic frame in a new document. On the button bar is a button with what looks to me to be green grass, blue sky and some mountains. Hover the mouse pointer over that button and Scribus should pop up a Insert Picture. Can't describe that better, sorry. 2) Use the mouse to make a frame. 3) Right click inside the frame and select Get picture 4) Find your PDF. 5) The graphic frame can be resized to only show the stuff you want to extract. 6) Copy this to a new Scribus document. 7) Click File, Export, Save page to eps. And you are done! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dual boot on Dell X300
have two drives, /dev/hda that holds Etch (/dev/hda1) and /dev/sda that holds Sarge (/dev/sda1). Both drives have swap space and grub and fstab have the correct entries. Grub is installed on the MBR of /dev/hda and the menu.lst resides in /boot/grub/. I'm curious here. Etch is on an IDE drive and Sarge is on a USB drive? Also, when you installed Sarge on the sda1 drive did it not boot properly immediately after the installation? If so, when did it stop booting properly? Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dual boot on Dell X300
A suggestion. Check your BIOS settings to make sure USB boot is at the top of the boot order. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Music lovers! Cakewalk?
On Wed, 2006-27-09 at 07:11 -0400, Henry Sobotka wrote: s. keeling wrote: I've a co-worker I'm trying to convert to Linux. He's a musician, and his primary app in $REDMOND is something called cakewalk. I've no idea what that is (I'm not a musician). Is there anything in the Linux/FOSS world that's equivalent/related/worth looking at? Suggestions welcome. apt-cache search cakewalk turns up nothing useful (sarge). rosegarden4 is a possible equivalent. h~ This might be worth a look: http://ardour.org/ You might find more info if you google cakewalk music linux HTH Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Version numbers? (WAS Re: Pre-installed Debian: two questions)
How can I find out what version number KDE would call this Debian kde package? OR, how could I find out what version number Debian would call KDE 3.5.4? I suspect the same situation exists with other packages, so I'm hoping for a general procedure I can follow, not simply the answer for KDE. Hi! Distrowatch lists many packages. Check out this link: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=debian Scroll down the page. kdebase is 3.5.4 for unstable, 3.5.3 for testing, etc. HTH, Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help with upgrade from woody to sarge...
On Wed, 2006-09-08 at 08:08 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 11:23:38PM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote: Go to another machine and Make yourself a GRUB boot CD (or, if you prefer, a boot floppy). You can boot from the GRUB CD, and then repair your system. Everybody ought to keep a GRUB boot CD handy! How do you make a grub boot CD or floppy? And how do you use it? This might help: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4622 Also, googling for grub boot floppy gives a whole days worth reading. Grab a beverage and enjoy! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A question about chatting
Good morning! On Sun, 2006-16-07 at 16:19 +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Hi, Debian users. My sister wants to chat with MS Windows users who use a chat program called `messenger'. Can she do that using Debian GNU/Linux, and will any IRC client be fine? A command line tool would be better, as `ircii'. She can do that with a package called gaim: http://packages.debian.org/stable/net/gaim HTH, Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why?
Where did you get that logo? When it came up on the gnome desktop it immediatlely reminded me of something being flushed down the drain. I hope it doesn't mean that! Actually, the logo is a logarithmic spiral, which has the interesting property that it employs what the Greeks called the Golden Ratio (an irrational number approximated by 0.618) which is found all over nature and man-made objects, from the ratios of body size generally considered attractive to the slope of the Great Pyramid at Gizeh (or is it Giza, I can never remember which is right). Thus the logo represents Debian's rightful place at the centre of the universe. Uh huh. Some of the other logos considered can be seen at: http://www.debian.org/vote/1999/vote_0004 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Python programmer resource center
On Sun, 2006-28-05 at 08:24 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Paolo Pantaleo wrote: I am writting down a pege with useful links for a Python programmer. That is reference, tutorials and anything that can be useful. I use it regulary when programming in Python and I can't do without it. I would be happy if you go and see that page, and tell me what you think about and suggest links to be added. The page is : http://ppp3.co.nr The page is blank for me. I would suggest adding many links. -Roberto Link took me here: http://paolopan.freehostia.com/mylinux/python/power_page.shtml Looks nice! Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Current Consensus: Recipe for a Debian thread that won't die
Ingredients for a thread that won't die. 2 Dozen Broccoli Growers A heavy dose of green color 1 Social Contract 1 smidgen of how do you address somebody... Politics (to taste) 1 dash of I don't want to be CCd 50 requests to Unsubscribe Stir. Add some light Colour if it still doesn't look right. Bake. Top post promptly. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Preposition at end [Was: Ha-Ha! [Was:Politics [Was:Social Contract]]]
On Mon, 2006-01-05 at 11:32 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Kent West wrote: (And speaking of Freedom, anyone ever heard of that newfangled OS, Debian? I hear it's the Hots, baby. ;-) ) Vaporware. It's just a ploy to delay people from adopting Vista. :-) -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto Gentlemen! Please! Discussions about free operating systems should be taken up on the appropriate list! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Ha-Ha! [Was:Politics [Was:Social Contract]]
On Sun, 2006-30-04 at 08:26 -0500, Kent West wrote: Kent West wrote: Being people, even Debianistas sometimes get off-topic and on-soapbox. When I sent that message, Thunderbird's spell-checker flagged Debianistas as Lesbianism's. Huh?!! ;-) Which begs a question! Why do people in Debianista spellOh never mind! ;) Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Ha-Ha! [Was:Politics [Was:Social Contract]]
On Sun, 2006-30-04 at 11:21 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Hodgins Family wrote: On Sun, 2006-30-04 at 08:26 -0500, Kent West wrote: Kent West wrote: Being people, even Debianistas sometimes get off-topic and on-soapbox. When I sent that message, Thunderbird's spell-checker flagged Debianistas as Lesbianism's. Huh?!! ;-) Which begs a question! mode=pedantic First, when you say begs a question you really mean raises a question. There is a major difference between the two: http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-beg1.htm http://begthequestion.info/ /mode Why do people in Debianista spellOh never mind! ;) Rob -Roberto I copied this passage from the second link: While descriptivists and other such laissez-faire linguists are content to allow the misconception to fall into the vernacular, it cannot be denied that logic and philosophy stand to lose an important conceptual label should the meaning of BTQ become diluted to the point that we must constantly distinguish between the traditional usage and the erroneous modern usage. This is why we fight. And I suppose that this is something up with we shall not put! :) :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Ha-Ha! [Was:Politics [Was:Social Contract]]
On Sun, 2006-30-04 at 11:21 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Hodgins Family wrote: On Sun, 2006-30-04 at 08:26 -0500, Kent West wrote: Kent West wrote: Being people, even Debianistas sometimes get off-topic and on-soapbox. When I sent that message, Thunderbird's spell-checker flagged Debianistas as Lesbianism's. Huh?!! ;-) Which begs a question! mode=pedantic First, when you say begs a question you really mean raises a question. There is a major difference between the two: http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-beg1.htm http://begthequestion.info/ /mode Why do people in Debianista spellOh never mind! ;) Rob -Roberto OK, was first. What was second? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Treason?
On Fri, 2006-28-04 at 10:21 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: Could someone explain this syslog message to me? It's evidently from a bittorrent session. Apr 28 08:07:28 mnr kernel: TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 203.156.176.100:4126/23047 shrinks window 191100048:191101508. Repaired. -- [E]lections amount to no more than choosing between the scum that floats to the top of the barrel and the dregs that settle to the bottom. -- L. Neil Smith Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net Check out this link: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/10/msg04972.html The thought was that this is a couple posts on the linux-kernel mailing list said this was the result of a buggy TCP stack on the remote computer. HTH Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?
So, why do people in Greece put a γ in colour? On Sat, 2006-15-04 at 11:45 -0400, Manaen Schlabach wrote: Not to drift too far from all this fascinating political speculation but it looks like we have Noah Webster to thank for the American spelling of the word color. snip French (or indirectly, Greek) – color, Gk. διαλογος → Fr. couleur, dialogue → British English colour, dialogue. Happy Easter to those who follow it. Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to install .deb package as non-root user?
Good afternoon! How can one install .deb package as non-root user? I see a 'dpkg --root' parameter, but it doesn't seem to help (as per below). Couldn't you work something out using sudo? In Ubuntu folks run commands like: sudo dpkg . Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?
Hey, theo! On Wed, 2006-12-04 at 06:49 +0200, theo wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hodgins Family wrote: The short answer is that the French made us do it! Sorry for that. (I also plead guilty for centre/center, theatre/theater, catalogue/catalog and utilise/utilize). cheers, theo. Pas de probeleme, ya know, like... Adds color (oops, colour) to the language as she are spoke there, ya know, like, anyways -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?
Howdy and glad you asked! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color? The answer is Why don't you put a u in the word colour? ;) Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?
Okay that was fun. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color? Here is an explanation from http://open-dictionary.com/Color (Can't vouch for how truthful this is...wasn't there at the time) [Co-lor] /_/ 1)... Alternative Spelling of * colour (UK English) Note - Originally the spelling of 'colour' without a U was a sanctioned change of the Spelling Reformist Movement, which was not exculsively accepted by Americans, but was much more popular in the US than it was in England. Henceforth, when the movement died out, its changes remained in US English but not in UK English. Not all American English spellings are from these changes, 'aluminum' for example, was introduced by Noah Webster. Nowadays, 'color' is a US English spelling. Etymology From Old French coulour, from Latin color. In American spelling the 'u' was dropped from colour to simplify the spelling. In British spelling the 'u' remains. The short answer is that the French made us do it! HTH Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: טכנאי מחשבים בח ינם
Right to left...What was I thinking! That explained everything! Mike McCarty wrote: Matt Richards wrote: i dont understand :( It's Hebrew. Just read from right to left :-) compix wrote: המחשב מקולקל ? עם וירוסים ? איטי? אל תחכו שהוא ייהרס לגמרי הזמינו היום טכנאי שיציל לכם את המחשב, ייעל את העבודה שלו ויזרז את מהירותו ! קומפיקס פתרונות מחשוב יתנו לכם את כל הפתרונות שהמחשב שלכם צריך ובזול : (מקבלים ויזה ותשלומים!) -תיקון המחשב בזריזות ויעילות ייחודית בבית הלקוח . -שירותי מעבדה, מכירת מחשבים במחירי סיטונאי!! שדרוג מחשבים וחלקי מחשב. -הקמת רשתות אלחוטיות ,ביתיות ושיתוף מדפסות . -חיבור לאינטרנט במחירים הזולים מכולם כולל התקנה ושירות ! התקשרו עכשיו לייעוץ חינם!!! אם לא תתקשרו לא תבינו כמה הפסדתם!!! 077-6633677 שירות כלל ארצי www.compix.co.il Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best Linux Laptop
Good morning! So what we really need is a strictly Debian live CD. Are there any? AFAIK damnsmalllinux is Debian on a bootable CD http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/packages.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: REPOST: DSL/Networking Help
Good morning. Just got my SBC DSL package with a 2Wire 1701 HG Gateway, wireless router/DSL modem. I need 2 wireless adaptors to complete the network hookup. Googled til I about to shoot myself as I don't know/understand all the rhetoric. I just need to know the brand, model, chipset of a linux compatable adapter so I can get on with the setup. Don't do wireless myself, but maybe I can point out some links? This link lists some cards and some information I hope is of use: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/ There's a 2 part article here that looks promising as well: http://www.trekweb.com/~jasonb/articles/linux_wireless1.shtml HTH Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading from slink on 486 w/ 32 Mb ram and 3c509tp NIC
Good morning! The sarge hardware probe doesn't find the nic though. Debian site doesn't seem to have the old version iso's for a gradual upgrade process. Anyone able to advise? Sorry, got into this list late and lost the original post! Old version iso's for a gradual upgrade can be found here: http://public.www.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-cd/images/ You might find this link useful as well: http://linuxmafia.com/debian/tips Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Debian from a DOS partition
Good morning! Hello List, I recently got my hands on a Toshiba Libretto 110CT. Which is a very small laptop, with no cd player, just a pcmcia floppy disk that only works under DOS, because the Linux kernel does not have the drivers for it. I've finally been able to upload files to and from the DOS partition using a parallel cable connection. I can also boot to DOS using either the hard drive or a boot floppy. But how can I start installing Debian (total hard drive = 4Gb, the Dos Partition = 1Gb) starting from DOS? Here's an extremely inelegant way: 1) install Woody base using floppies Get those here: http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/i386/ch-appendix.en.html#s-obtain (Go to the section called 11.2.3.4.1 Base System Images:) Various driver disk images are in sections above this one 2) apt-get distupgrade to Sarge off the web Would this strategy work for you? Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation CDs for potato (Debian 2.2)
Hey Michelle! I am creating a TByte Archive Server of Debian and I am searching for older Official Debian-CD-Images. Generaly I am looking for 2.2.r7 but yours 2.2r5 are better ethen nothing. snip I am interested in a full copy of it (any architektures) but only official Debian CD-Images. I can pay you via PayPal if you want (need to rechare my account for that). This site might prove useful: http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-cd/images Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation CDs for potato (Debian 2.2)
Good morning! J.Moore wrote: I need to do an install of Debian 2.2 (potato) to do some maintenance on an old application. The author claims it will only run on the 2.2 kernel, and I want to eliminate as many variables as possible. I finally located the 2.2 distro on archives.debian.org, but have not been able to find the installation cd iso's. The documentation I found for installing 2.2 says they exist, but they don't seem to be anywhere in the archive. Try here: http://debian.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-cd/images/2.2_r7/i386/ Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ubuntu to Debian
Good morning! Brooks R. Robinson wrote: Greetings oh most knowledgeable list, snipped Now for the question: Can I, without too much heartburn, upgrade my install the Etch or Sid? Is it as simple as changing my sources.list, doing and apt-get update and an apt-get dist-upgrade? I'm sure I'll end up with a bunch of cruft, but I'd rather be on Debian proper than Ubuntu. Any thoughts would be helpful. You might want to start by seeing how to do the trick in reverse (go from another distro to Ubuntu): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromAnotherDistro Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: install samba from binary
Good morning! Hi, I've downloaded Samba as a .deb file. Is there an easy way for me to install from that? dpkg -i package should work. Check the dpkg man pages for exact syntax. Rob P.S. How come you didn't bring it in through apt-get or synaptic or aptitude (just curious!) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge CD Install location problem
Good morning! I have an old Pentium box, and have two copies of SBM, downloaded at diferent times. ONe of them just gives me the message SBMK and gives up. I've had that happen on some of my boxes, too. Never got around to figuring out what the problem was. The other will only read my CD drive (which is the second drive on the second IDE chain if a particular hard drive is *not* present as the second drive on the first IDE chain. It has no problems with that same drive as the first drive on the second IDE chain. Voodoo stuff!! I award you the antacid award of the month for figuring that out. That must have been a very frustrating experience. Is the particular hard drive different from the others, let's say in terms of age or some other factor? Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: install samba from binary
Howdy! At 11:48 AM 12/12/2005, Martin Lefebvre wrote: dpkg -i samba_3.0.20b-1woody1_i386.deb UNCLELEO:~# dpkg -i samba_3.0.20b-1woody1_i386.deb dpkg: error processing samba_3.0.20b-1woody1_i386.deb (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory Errors were encountered while processing: samba_3.0.20b-1woody1_i386.deb UNCLELEO:~# . I guess the problem is that I put the deb on my /root/debs directory. Where should it go? Marty I was wondering why you plunked the file into /root/deb. Why not just move it to /home and retry the dpkg command (as root obviously!) Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge CD Install location problem
Good afternoon! I have an old pentium box that's a candidate for a sarge install. It has a hdd and a cd. The bios does not detect the cd, and the boot order can only be set to A:/C: or C:/A:. Hence, it cannot be set to boot from the Sarge CD. Smart Boot Manager might be a solution. Also called sbm. Google for either of these terms and Linux or Debian to learn more. Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Problem running Corel WP
Good morning! I am using Corel WP Office 2002 But WP is the one I want. I do not like MWord. It will not communicate with the printer and I don't know how to tell George (my computer) to be friends with the printer. Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated. If I need to buy new software I will. Maybe George would be happier with OpenOffice (free)? Current version says that it can import Word Perfect files. Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Color Laser
Good morning! Hello all, What would be a good chocie in Color Laser Printer for use with Debian ? Thanks in advance. /Lars Go wild, Lars http://www.linuxprinting.org/suggested.html Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: does anyone know the status of
Good evening! In the past few days, it seems that http://mail.sinetsrl.it has gone missing. Visiting that web site, that link no longer exists. Any idea what happened? Thanks A login page? Popped right in Opera. I got the login page as well in uh, uh, well, uh. Q: What's the difference between MicroSoft Windows and a virus? A: Apart from the fact that viruses are supported by their authors, use optimized, small code and usually perform well, none. Winduhs well, in my, uh Winduhs IE program. Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tyan Tomcat i7221A
Good morning! I'm about to buy 6 boxes with the Tyan Tomcat i7221A mainboard in it. The client wants to run Debian. Now .. I don't know a lot about the hardware support in Debian. Can someone advise me on this? Will this box install with the latest stable install CD? The full specs can be found here: http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tomcati7221a_spec.html The short answer is probably all the basics will be fine (compatibility of processor, IDEs, SATAs - maybe, LANs, video). Long answer is that sooner or later, depending on the apps the clients want installed, something might not work perfectly and you might have to cobble together a work around. Simplest solution that crosses my mind would be to test drive one of the boxes with a Knoppix, Ubuntu or other LiveCD first (ideally a distro with the apps that most closely match your client's needs). In a perfect world, your vendor would be more than happy to make your purchase of these boxes conditional on getting these LiveCDs to run okay. Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian 1.3.1 (Bo) ISO files
Good morning! No 386's here, but I have two 486 SX25's with 8MB memory each and 80MB to 120MB HDs that I have been trying to figure out how to get Debian onto. Some ideas here: http://www.linux.ca/library/linux/minideb.shtml although you would have to strip out some of the apps. Also, this page is well referenced although not Debian specific: http://website.lineone.net/~brichardson/linux/4mb_laptops/4mb_Laptops-3.html#ss3.2 Good luck! Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: make an updates CD?
Good morning: Follow this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7455page=1 My friend has installed a sarge workstation from the 14 CDs. With limited dial-up access he can't upgrade it. I would like to make a disk 15 for him from the contents of my /var/cache/apt/archives. Is there a script to gather a set of .deb files and produce an .iso which apt-cdrom would recognize? Do I have to go all the way through debian-cd and set up a local Debian mirror to make one supplement disk? This isn't EXACTLY what you are looking for but it could give you some ideas. This is an Ubuntu page, I now, but the commands shouldn't be so very different from Debian (if at all!) HTH Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: make an updates CD?
Hey Cameron: (There's also some stuff about Synaptic, whatever that is.) Think of Synaptic as a GUI for apt-get (no flames from purists, please!) That's neater than just copying all the deb files from my apt/archives to his, but it still doesn't get me something I could put on an isofs so that apt-cdrom would understand it. Make a CD which apt-cdrom will accept is the part I still haven't found. The method I gave you the link to would give a repository in your home directory using a CD (or a floppy) as just an intermediate to transfer the files. If you really want the CD to be the repository then I would suggest that you: 1) copy the files from the cache on the downloading computer to another location-- maybe /home/cameron/CDrepository/dists/sarge/main/binary-i386/ 2) cd into CDrepository and run dpkg-scanpackages dists/sarge/main/binary-i386 /dev/null Packages 3) then run cp Packages dists/warty/main/binary-i386/ 4) burn CDrepository (and everything beneath it) to a CD 4) try apt-cdrom to see if it is acceptable Unless someone else says otherwise, I don't see why this won't work. Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Your Message To scoug-general
Good afternoon! I've a couple of these today. - Original Message - From: Steward-owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 6:29 PM Subject: Your Message To scoug-general Your message to the list scoug-general has been rejected. You are not a member of the list. For help on subscribing to the list, please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word help in the body of the message. Your humble mailing list software, Steward -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can the nice [EMAIL PROTECTED] machine please subscribe to the nice Steward-owner machine so that we get no more of these? OR Can the nice Steward-owner machine please follow the UNSUBSCRIBE info and get off this debian list? Thanks in advance, Rob's machine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GRUB Sarge Win 98
Good afternoon! I just was running a dual boot machine (Sarge Win 98) nicely when something wrong happened and I got to reinstall Win 98. Since that I can`t boot my Debian Gnu/Linux System. So here is my question: -How do I reinstall Grub in MBR the way I`ll can boot both systems again? I found this page a while back. I haven't tried it yet. It might give you some ideas. HTH Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: GRUB Sarge Win 98 (Try #2)
Good afternoon! Someone's been putting grapefruit juice in my grapefruit juice again! :) I'll just repost with the page reference and hope no one notices...how's that? I just was running a dual boot machine (Sarge Win 98) nicely when something wrong happened and I got to reinstall Win 98. Since that I can`t boot my Debian Gnu/Linux System. So here is my question: -How do I reinstall Grub in MBR the way I`ll can boot both systems again? I found this page a while back. I haven't tried it yet. It might give you some ideas. http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Multiboot-with-GRUB.html#toc2 HTH Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A page that causes Firefox (Sarge) to close
Good morning! I'm using the latest mozilla-firefox (1.0.4-2sarge5) on Debian Sarge, and whenever I attempt to visit a particular page, I'm finding that it closes immediately. Can someone please confirm this behaviour? The page is: http://www.movieweb.com/forums/viewtopic.php%3Ft%3D6036e=9797 Copying pasting the source of that page into the W3C validator results in 188 violations of HTML 4.0 Transitional coding. I suspect that if web sites would just LEARN TO CODE TO STANDARDS!! (sorry, lost my head there for a moment), we would see a lot fewer issues with non-IE browsers. Page opened OK for me with Mozilla 1.0.7 (specifically: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050915 Firefox/1.0.7) using Win XP HTH Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use old CPUs (Not Debian Specific)
Good afternoon: I think this exchange sparked more discussion than Brendan anticipated. It caught me, that's for sure. Another few benefits of keeping old CPU's going hit me yesterday (after buying a brand new battery for an 80386 motherboard -- the kind you have to solder on!): i) To the spouse: Hey hon! I gotta get me a soldering iron for the workshop. How much? Well, a couple of bucks. Why? Well, without it you won't be able to use the old box anymore and if you want to keep playing that game, we'll have to pop for a new computer -- they're only around 200 bucks, ya know! BONUS 1 ii) From my 6 and 7 year old kids: Hey Dad, what's that pencil thing with the plug. Well, kids that let's me glue pieces of metal together. Cool. Can you show us. Sure, in fact, I'm learning too. Let's practice on this computer board thing, how's that? And hey, if we kill the board, so what. It's worth less than the soldering iron is. You'll likely never use this board in your entire lives, but from now on, you'll know that it's possible to stick metal together AND you'll know how. BONUS 2 BONUS 1 is tongue and cheek, obviously. However, I know that I've got handier with things (not just tools, but concepts, etc.) during my explorations into computer dinosaurs than I would have slapping down some green when something was too old for me. And I've been able to carry that knowlege to other (unrelated) projects. And buy lotsa tools and parts to play with! BONUS 2 is really important: my kids get to learn something new from me -- as I'm learning it. With no tears if somethings borks and dies and only a good feeling if it works. Just a few more cents to add. Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use old CPUs (Not Debian Specific)
Good afternoon! Like I said, I don't have enough space in the new apartment to set up multiple computers, but I dislike having computing power going to waste. Glad to hear that you aren't going to junk 'em (at least not right now). Can anyone suggest a way to network/connect all four to possibly distribute the load among them? Before reading further, I figured that networking them together would be solution. I am considering building a custom case to hold all the MBs and only have a single monitor, mouse and keyboard connected. The case would, obviously, have to be fairly large, but it could then act as a table, as well, so the space would still be more efficient than four seperate cases which serve no othere purpose. Why not just make each computer into a table leg (adjusted to the same height), plunk a nice table top over them and get a KVM switch that can let them share a monitor mouse and keyboard (all of these could be on a lasy Susan in the middle of the table)? The Athlon shouldn't have a problem with Linux, the Net gateway shouldn't but Gnome or KDE might be a bit slow for you The 486 SX 25 computers are going to be slow! Maybe too slow for you. They could be put to mundane uses such as firewalling for your DSL or for experimentation or keep them for running the software that's already on themmy family still gets a kick out of Chip's Challenge (ca 1993) and Spectre (1992). Happy renovating! Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use old CPUs (Not Debian Specific)
Hey! Just take them to a recycling center and buy something from this decade used for under 200. Hold on a sec. Why go through all the bother? 1) 200 bucks all at once may not be a feasible outlay. 2) some of the older software may run just fine on the older machines (a newer one won't make the software run better). 3) I find something satisfying about computer resurrection that I don't get by taking them to a recycling centre. That goes for a lot of stuff folks do with old things like: fixing the old '69 Mustang in the garage instead of junking it, collecting/reading musty old first edition books instead buying the newest repring, refinishing furniture instead of hitting up IKEA, maybe pruning very old trees. 4) This is what the OP decided to do, presumably after ruling out purchasing any new machine. It's only cheap if your time isn't worth anything? Which is a statement that could be applied to any hobby or sport or (fill in the blank). Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use old CPUs (Not Debian Specific)
Good evening! My pap used to have a set of lights programmed to change in a random way and he kept an ancient box running for many years doing little other than that. Light up, gradually dim, switch off, the whole lot. Classic anti-burglar mechanism jazzed up to make it plausible day after day. Way cool pap you got! Just curious? What was the box he was using? What OS? Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Command line reference
Good morning! Perhaps you'd like this: Debian GNU/Linux Reference Card The 101 most important things when using Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~debacle/refcard/ Thanks, Ralph! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Command line reference
Good morning! Quick, how many commands are there at the disposal of a CLI enthusiast? Every time some newbie asks how to do this that or something else, along comes a new command that-was-always-there but sort of unknown. Now that's security through obscurity for you! This is not a rantI love the number of commands in Linux and the control that they can give. But I'd like to see, ideally in one place, ALL the Debian commands. Then instead of asking someone on the list (bless ya, guys and girls) how I can to XYZ via ABC given that LMN are doing a QRS, I could peruse this one place and then toddle off to the man pages (or google or whereever) to get the syntax and nitty-gritty. And then if all goes fubar I could ask for help :) Is there such a site? FWIW, googling Debian command line reference gave no hits. Googling Linux command line reference gave some 1160 inlcuding this one: http://mygamecompany.com/Linux/Commandline/linuxcommandline.htm, but how much is Debian? Thanks Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Command line reference
Good afternoon! Easy, on my system there are 3312 (YMMV), just hit tab twice from the CLI :) $ Display all 3312 possibilities? (y or n) OK. That's good. That's a start. And yes, my mileage may vary. It is unlikely that I will have 3312 commands available on my system. That will depend on what packages I have installed (or what I might install in the future). I understand that. BUT, is there one site out there that a person can get at that lists ALL commands that are available under Debian? Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Command line reference
Good afternoon! Any unix, linux book will give you a good hint on posibilities. Many linux books have discussions of rpm related stuff, fewer discuss apt..just to pick on two obvious distinctions. Right now, I'm a Debian guy. I'm studying Debian Linux. For now, I'm only interested in Debian commands. If you need a comprehensive list of manuals, man pages is the closest one, i think You are correct. However, to search the man pages means that you already know the command to start with. What I'd like to do is to be able to say something like this Hey, why is my drive/sound card/video card doing this?, then find a site that lists the commands that are drive-/sound card-/video card-related so that I can decide what might be run from the CLI to diagnose/fix/optimize/etc. A (poor) analogy follows: You go to Mexico/China/Portugal. You are leaving the departures lounge. A local says something to you. Seriously, are you going to grab a fellow traveller and demand a translation...each and every time a local says something to you? Of course not. You'll whip out a dictionary and grunt through what the local chap is trying to say and what you'll say in return. Only when that fails will you consider grabbing an expert to explain the nuances of the conversation. Much more efficient and much less time consuming than having the entire departure lounge chanting back at you No, clear will clear your screen, cls won't. At least, not in this country. If you know what do you want to do, and think is programable, then I think your best bet is google for it, or ask on list. In many ways, one of the many purposes of the lists is to act as a very basic low-level interpreter between a user and the computer. Too much, maybe. I think that list traffic would be reduced somewhat and a user's grasp of what is available to him/her would be increased, if there was one place ( a dictionary?) that folks could go to at least learn the vocabulary of Debian that is available to them BEFORE hitting up the list experts. My question is: Is there such a web-site? There's a huge, in the thousands, of comand line programs on any linux installation, and most people dont know how to use them all, if any, Wouldn't it be nice if there was a place where ALL the commands are available to peruse either before a command is needed or when a command is needed? so it's better to know a command when you need it, than diving in the man pages with the hope of learning how to work CLI. That's right. But a newb can't know and understand a command if he/she doesn't know it exists. And no one can dive into the man pages without knowing what they are looking for in the first place. Catch-22! Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Command line reference
Good afternoon! http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/commands/ Thanks for this link. Do you know how many of these commands are Debian-specific? Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Command line reference
Good afternoon! Have you read the Debian Reference? That's all shell-based. It can be found here: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html#contents The document at this site has lots of useful info that I'm not (immediately) interested in. I have bokmarked it, though, for future reference. What I'm looking for is a site that simply lists the Debian commands that are available. Rather like those old hideous DOS cheatsheets that used to be around in the early '90s. Thanks for the link though. Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Responses to the list (oops)
Good afternoon! So in this case, do we hit reply-all, and cut and paste the list email as the To: line, removing all others, etc? I use reply all and then cut out everyone's name leaving only the list address. So far, I haven't annoyed anyone. Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What can I do with six new publicly available computers?
Good morning: simple solution .. use knoppix cd in each PC and you're done 2. In the centre we do a lot of video editing using Premiere on window$. I know some Linux video editing software but the problem is that just one computer is powerful enough to do the job. If I make cluster out of few computers then the thing would be strong enough. Following along on the idea of using a bootable CD the OP might want to take a peek at Dynebolic and Mediainlinux. The packages used in those distros might give some ideas as to the capabilities of the machines in the centre. They are at Distrowatch. Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
