Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

[Holger Levsen]

On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 08:49:05AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> But the various names and use of those names gets very frustrating for me, 
> and 
> I suspect I am not the only one.  The numbered versions, the Toy Story names, 
> and then the testing, stable, old stable, old old stable is just frustrating.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_version_history explains this
nicely and is linked from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian


-- 
cheers,
Holger


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Re: Bug#665426: base: USB drive spins up every hour

[Holger Levsen]

Hi Stefan,

On Samstag, 24. März 2012, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> Package: base
> Severity: normal
> 
> My USB-connected drive spins up every hour (or even half-hour).
> 
> This is a serious problem since it's a 3.5" drive, it's almost always
> idle (I only use it once a day for backups) and it's not in a place
> where I can easily plug it in and out.  So it's important for it to stay
> "spun down" for 20h at a time.
> 
> Googling, I found a very similar looking problem that occurred a few
> years ago in libatasmart and which caused DeviceKit to spin up the
> drives every hour or so.  But I have no DeviceKit here (running Debian
> testing), so the problem must be different.
> 
> Using /proc/sys/vm/block_dump tells me that there is no disk activity
> that justifies spinning up.
> I have smartmontools installed, but "ps auxw|grep smart" confirms smartd
> is not running.
> There is no `cron' activity around the time the disk spins up either,
> not anything disk-related in the logs.
> 
> Any idea what it might be and how to find out and fix it?
> 
> 
> Stefan
> 
> -- System Information:
> Debian Release: wheezy/sid
>   APT prefers testing
>   APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'stable')
> Architecture: i386 (x86_64)
> 
> Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-2-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
> Locale: LANG=fr_CH.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_CH.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
> Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

this ain't a base bug in Debian but rather a user question :-)


cheers,
Holger

DebConf8 video streams

[Holger Levsen]

Hi,

in seven hours DebConf8 will officially begin, you can participate by watching 
the live video streams as described on 
http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf8/Streams - have fun!

The schedule for tomorrow/today is available at 
https://penta.debconf.org/dc8_schedule/day_2008-08-10.en.html - follow the 
links for the schedule for the other days. The times are localtime which is 
ART and equals to UTC-3.

Apologies for the short notice. But it should not come totally surprising for 
most of you! ;-)


regards,
Holger



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Re: Automatic debiian installation

[Holger Levsen]

Hi Tim,

thanks for sharing your experiences.

On Wednesday 11 June 2008 12:18, Tim Cutts wrote:
> However, FAI usually depends on NFS -- yes, I know about fai-cd -- and
> so isn't very appropriate for installing machines which are not part
> of the same network (FAI: -1)

This isnt really accurate (anymore): first, fai-cd works fine with usbsticks 
now, too. second, it's trivial to install with d-i (as fai indeed needs nfs 
for network installation, as you said), and then use fai's softupdate for the 
rest.

I completly use fai without nfs nowadays.


regards,
Holger


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Re: etch/volatile -- public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3

[Holger Levsen]

Hi Rick,

On Saturday 14 April 2007 19:33, Rick Thomas wrote:
> 1) How do I import the public key for volatile?  (If it's in the fine
> manual, then please point me to it so I can RTFM)

To be executed as root:

gpg --keyserver pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de --recv-keys AC583520
gpg --fingerprint  AC583520
# compare the fingerprint with a fingerprint on a machine with a trust path
gpg --export -a AC583520 | apt-key add -


This is for a different key, but besides that, that's it - and you may use a 
different keyserver. 

> 2) What's the reasoning behind not including it in the default debian-
> archive-keyring package?  Is it not recommended that everyone use
> volatile for the things like security and spam updates that it provides?

volatile is not a official service (yet).


regards,
Holger


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Re: updated debian development diagram -- comments?

[Holger Levsen]

Hi,

first I'd like to thank Kevin for his nice diagram!

On Wednesday 05 January 2005 20:38, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Very nice! I expect to use it at some conferences (BTW: Looks like a
> nice addition to Debian Eyecatcher[1], I'll add it :) )

but then I also got one concern, especially if this diagram gets used in more 
or less official debian projects / occasions / whatever (this might be a good 
place to add that I'm aware that Kevin started that diagram for hisself...) :

unstable is described as suited for "...laptops and desktops on non-critical 
systems..." 
testing is described as "... can be used for desktop systems that need more 
stability..."

I think this both is wrong. Unstable and testing should not be described as 
suited for desktops - they are development branches of debian, which are 
likely to break, which break and... so on. Most of you know :)

I'm perfectly aware why some people advocate testing or sid for Desktops (the 
good ol' "debian releases to seldom" argument...) - but as said I don't think 
Debian should propagate this misconcepts.


regards,
 Holger


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Re: update-alternates

[Holger Levsen]

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Hi,

On Thursday 23 December 2004 01:56, Randolph Kahle wrote:
> I am doing a fresh install of Debian and I following instructions to
> install Java.
>
> The instructions tell me to use the program "update-alternates". It is
> not installed on my machine and I've done a search of the Debian web
> site and I cannot figure out which apt package to install to get this
> command.

I guess you or the instructions :) mean "update-alternatives" which is part of 
the dpkg-package.

You can use apt-file (package apt-file) to search for files in all debian 
packages in your sources.lists:

apt-file update
apt-file search update-alternates  # results in no hits
apt-file search update-alt   # shows the above result :)


regards,
 Holger
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Re: mirror a debian mirror...

[Holger Levsen]

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Hi,

On Monday 13 December 2004 22:31, Joao Clemente wrote:
> What's the best way to do it?
> I've read recently about FAI on LinuxToday, maybe I should follow FAI
> procedure for setting up the mirror? It suggests the use of
> mkdebmirror script (debmirror and rsync).  Is this script only usefull
> for FAI or will I suceed to get the mirror as I want (not for use with
> FAI)?

the script is usefull for getting a partial mirror (one arch only). it's up to 
you how you use the mirror: for fai, for manual installations, for 
upgrades, ...

using rsync for mirroring (instead of plain ftp or http) helps to limit the 
bandwidth usage and time needed to update the mirror. 


regards,
 Holger
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Re: debian installer, uml, kernel 2.6

[Holger Levsen]

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Hi,

On Monday 13 December 2004 07:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i tried to install debian sarge rc2 into an uml system. the host is

if you don't get an answer from debian-user@ you should possibly try 
debian-boot@, the mailing-list dedicated to the new installer.


regards,
 Holger
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Re: PowerPc 5300 compatible?

[Holger Levsen]

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Hi,

On Monday 13 December 2004 05:06, sasha shkolnikov wrote:
> I am new to Debian. I have an old Apple Macintosh 5300 PowerBook
> (PowerPC chip). Does anyone know if I can run Debiac on it? ..and how.
> Really don't want to waste it.

A quick google search revealed "a qualified yes" ;-)

Quoting "http://www.alksoft.com/5300_FAQ/FAQ_1.1.php";

 1.1.7) Will Linux run on this computer?

The answer to that question is a qualified yes. One can install and boot Linux 
on this computer, but it is a complicated project with dubious utility. As of 
this writing, MkLinux is supported on this computer. Other distributions such 
as Debian, Mandrake, Yellow Dog, and SuSE can also be made to run on the 5300 
if the standard Linux kernel is replaced with one compiled with support for 
the NuBus architecture. Basically, if you can run it on a 6100, you can 
probably run it, with some effort, on a PowerBook 5300. Again, as of this 
writing, several PowerBook features are unsupported: The PCMCIA controller 
doesn't work, expansion bay devices (floppy included) are not supported, the 
sound hardware is not supported, and PDS expansion cards are unsupported. 
There are also some issues with the 5300 greyscale LCD.

Also have a look at http://nubus-pmac.sourceforge.net/ and 
http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/


regards,
 Holger
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Re: Command line network monitoring tool

[Holger Levsen]

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Hi,

On Tuesday 07 December 2004 21:59, Michael Madden wrote:
> Are there any network monitoring tools that monitor the availability of
> network resources (HTTP, IMAP, POP3, IMAP, SSH, NNTP, FTP, DNS, RSYNC) that
> I can run from the command line?  Right now I'm using a shell script that
> checks if the machine is pingable, but I'm finding that often the service
> has died but the machine is still reachable with ping.

Package: checkservice
Priority: optional
Section: admin
Installed-Size: 272
Description: Checks the status of services on (remote) hosts
 Checkservice is a simple and fast service checking perl script. It is
 able to show the results in many ways: by keeping logs, showing it on
 the PHP status page, output that MRTG can use or warning(plugins) if
 something is wrong. Checkservice features grouping of hosts, very
 easy configuration and thorough service checking using checkplugins.

It also supports other actions like sending sms or mail or, more general, to 
execute scripts upon failures.


regards,
 holger
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proposed updates - part of Debian or not ?

[Holger Levsen]

Hello everybody!

I've got a simple question: are the proposed updates part of the
official Debian distribution or not ?

Proposed updates to the stable distribution:

  
  

In "Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 updated (r1)"
(http://www.debian.org/News/2002/20021216) these apt-lines are mentioned
- but "proposed" means something linke "adviced". 

Before reading that announcement I believed that those packages are put
into "proposed updates", that later go into minor releases (like 3.0r1).
So "proposed updates" would be updates which are not official part of
Debian but will be someday. (And then they will be taken away from
proposed updates and put into the main archive).

So, if I want to run the stable Debian release only, should I include
them or not ??


regards,
Holger (please cc: as I'm not on this list)





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