Re: Wordperfect 7.0 on Debian 2.0
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 09:12:11AM +0200, Bostjan JERKO wrote: libXpm.so.4 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXpm.so.4 (0x400eb000) I seem to be missing this library. Can anybody tell me in which package it is included. The libc5 xpm libraries are in stable/main/binary-i386/oldlibs/xpm4.7_3.4j-0.6.deb HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
Re: Hp deskjet
On Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 09:25:53AM +0200, Mans Joling wrote: How do I install my HP Deskjet500 under linux Using a printer cable :-) Seriously though, install the magicfilter package. It is fairly easy to set up, and allows you to print all kinds of files using via the lpr command. HTH, Ray -- Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden.
Re: Make Config Does Not Work!
On Wed, Oct 07, 1998 at 08:43:50AM -0500, Brian Armstrong wrote: Typed:make config which resulted in the following: make:***No rule to make target config! Stop. You need to be in the top level directory of the kernel source to run make config. HTH, Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig
Re: debian 2.0 refuses to get installed in a box with a SCSI disk.
On Mon, Oct 05, 1998 at 02:38:03PM +0100, J.Miguel Signes wrote: The system is an Intel Pentium, at 90 MHz, with 24 MB RAM. There is an Adaptec AIC-7850 Host SCSI Adapter (BIOS v1.11) at Have you tried using the special disk images for that SCSI adapter? http://master.debian.org/~doko/aic7xxx/ HTH, Ray -- J.H.M. Dassen | RUMOUR Believe all you hear. Your world may [EMAIL PROTECTED] | not be a better one than the one the blocks | live in but it'll be a sight more vivid. | - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: glimpse on CD?
[Redirected to -user] On Mon, Oct 05, 1998 at 09:36:57AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: I just noticed that glimpse is *not* on my _official_ LSL Debian 2.0 disk set. Strange. There's nothing strange about it. Glimpse does not meet the Debian Free Software Guidelines (IIRC, because the license permits non-commercial use only). I wonder what else I'm missing. The contents of the FTP site's non-free section, and the contents of the non-US site. Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking his name in vain. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: newbie question: when dpkging libpam0g libpam0g-util
On Fri, Oct 02, 1998 at 09:56:42PM +0800, zuwi wrote: When I tried to dpkg --configure libpam0g, it told me this depends on libpam0g-util, and libpam0g-util had not been configured, so failed. Then I tried to dpkg --configure libpam0g-util, it told me this depends on libpam0g, and (of course) it had not been configured yet, so failed again. It's a cyclic dependency, so it only gets resolved if you configure both simultaneously: dpkg --configure libpam0g libpam0g-utils HTH, Ray -- Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden.
Re: installing debian from more than 1 CD?
[Courtesy copy of Usenet posting] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to install some non-free and contrib Debian 2.0 packages. I have main, non-free and contrib on three different CDs. I select a package from contrib that depends on another package on non-free, dselect does not find that package because it's on the other CD. The way I've handled this was: - select the mounted filesystem access method in dselect, and quit dselect. - make dpkg aware of existence of the packages on all CDs: do dpkg --clear-avail and run zcat Packages.gz | dpkg --merge-avail with the Packages.gz from each CD. - select the packages in dselect - let dselect install: the CD with main first, then the non-free, then the contrib CD. (Packages in main don't depend on ones in contrib or non-free; packages in non-free don't generally depend on ones in contrib; contrib ones depend on ones in non-free). But perhaps someone on debian-user@lists.debian.org can come up with an easier solution. HTH, Ray -- J.H.M. Dassen | RUMOUR Believe all you hear. Your world may [EMAIL PROTECTED] | not be a better one than the one the blocks | live in but it'll be a sight more vivid. | - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: dselect corrupted filesystem
On Jun 10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote During the installation phase, text flew by on my screen, seldom pausing. I believe install went well until post-configuration. As text flew by, I saw some broken pipe and either gzip or grep errors, until dselect hung on post-configuring xfnt75. After dselect installation, gzip failed, grep failed, fsck failed, and of course booting now failed. At one point, I got a gzip off a live RedHat package, then used dpkg to install gzip and grep, but much more was corrupted. With no log of dselect transactions, I can not fully identify how dselect corrupted so many files. So, I give this general message. IIRC, one of the newer install methods (dpkg-mountable?) now does logging through script(1). What do dpkg --audit and dpkg -l | grep -v '^ii' give? If they fail too, try to reboot with your rescue disks, mount your normal system, and try dpkg --root=/mountpoint --pending --configure. HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: su: (to nobody) root on none
On Jun 10, Eugene Sevinian wrote This string frequently appears in my auth.log. Does it mean that something wrong with security? Probably not. It is most likely a result of your system running /etc/cron.daily/find, which updates the database used by locate; this update is done as nobody for security reasons. HTH, Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [META] Use of the list for non-Debian matters
On Jun 10, Fredrik Ax wrote On Mon, 9 Jun 1997, Max Stevens wrote: :0: * ^TOdebian-user ^^^ debian-user If match * ^To.*debian-user you will miss all CC:ed and BCC:ed mail to ^^^ ^TO != ^To. TO also catches Cc and Bcc. See procmailrc(5): | If the regular expression contains `^TO' it will be substituted by | `(^((Original-)?(Resent-)?(To|Cc|Bcc)|(X-Envelope|Apparently(-Resent)?)-To): | (.*[^a-zA-Z])?)', which should catch all destination specifications. HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: perl 4.003-4 chat2.pl
On Jun 10, Andrea Arcangeli wrote How can port my programs that require chat2.pl; making it to work with perl 4.004? 5.004, you mean? es. chat::close($fh); Randal Schwartz (author of chat2.pl) has made some Usenet postings on this: - go to URL:http://www.dejanews.com - select power search - select create a query filter - enter newsgroups: comp.lang.perl* select - search for chat2 schwartz select find Hope this helps, Ray -- J.H.M. Dassen | RUMOUR Believe all you hear. Your world may [EMAIL PROTECTED] | not be a better one than the one the blocks | live in but it'll be a sight more vivid. | - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problems with g++
On Jun 9, Sebastien Phelep wrote gcc is 2.7.2.2-4; libg++ is 2.7.2.1-9 / 2.7.2.5-1 I guess it's because I've used unstable packages, but I'm note sure. Does anybody knows what's the problem is ? Debian's gcc 2.7.2.2 packages by default use with libc6; for libc6 you need the libg++272 package. As not all libraries are ready/available for libc6, it is probably best to downgrade your gcc (using dpkg) to the 2.7.2.1 version, and put it (and cpp) on Hold in dselect. HTH, Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: unhosing my compiler
On Jun 5, stephen farrell wrote Oh geez... what have I done? I can't seem to figure out which library is missing, but if I try to compile, e.g.: /tmp/cca027141.o: In function `main': /tmp/cca027141.o(.text+0xe): undefined reference to `_stdprintf' OK. Linker errors. Please provide us with the following information: - the version of binutils (binutils contains the linker) (dpkg -l binutils). - the output of trying to compile your program with -Wl,--verbose - does compiling work when you add '--static'? And you can imagine it gets worse for something bigger! I figured I'd hosed libc.a or similar? libc.a is only used when compiling -static; otherwise the dynamic library /lib/libc.so* is used) Thoughts on unhosing my compiler very welcome... It looks like a linker problem; you might try to install a different version of binutils (don't forget the matching libbfd* package). Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking his name in vain. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: DDD problems
On Jun 2, Matthew Tebbens wrote Maybe someone can help me with a few problems I'm having with DDD. At certian times (or mouse clicks) in the program, I get the following: --- Error: PANIC: no geometry_manager procedure specified for this widget DDD is built with Lesstif, an LGPL-ed implementation of OSF/Motif, which is not really mature yet. Last week, the DDD maintainers announced a patch to work around problems with Lesstif. This patch has gone into 2.1-3 and newer. Please upgrade to 2.1-3 (currently in frozen) or newer (2.1.1 is being processed). I have been given access to a machine with Motif; there will very likely be ddd-smotif and ddd-dmotif packages in hamm/contrib soon, if ddd_2.1-3 and newer still have Lesstif-related problems. HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: shadow-login - shadow: how?
On Jun 1, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote I installed the shadow stuff from experimental a while back, and now I'd like to move to the newer shadow suite with 1.3. When I `dpkg -i` it though, `dpkg` tells me that shadow-login is essential, and won't let the upgrade happen. I had this to, but I don't recall precisely how I solved it. From dpkg's --help and --force-helps, I gather that it would be something like dpkg --force-remove-essential --auto-deconfigure -i newloginpackage.deb should work; if not, you'd have to break this up in two steps (first --force-remove-essential --remove shadowlogin, then _in the same session_ -i the new login package). HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: problem with afterstep
On Jun 2, Magic wrote I have a problem with afterstep. I love this window-maneger but... I haven't an icon on my Wharf :-( For example... Are your running in 8bpp mode (256 colours) perhaps? From /usr/doc/afterstep/FAQ.gz: 3.3. Icons disappear from Wharf. What's wrong? You are most likely running out of colors. Either upgrade your hardware, switch to a higher color depth (i.e. 16 bpp or higher), or use icons that contain fewer colors. See question ``''. (question 3.2 contains some hints to reduce colour use). HTH, Ray -- Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Source code analyzer/debugger for X
On May 28, Alex Yukhimets wrote By the way, where are ddd-dmotif and ddd-smotif packages? They are no more; they were quite out of date (1.4). I don't have motif, and thus cannot build them. The package ddd (compiled with lesstif) leaves core dumps all over the place itself. That should change with 2.1-3 (uploaded today), which includes lesstif-specific patches by one of DDD's authors. Also, it is in general advisable to _report_ problems with packages through the bugtracking system, rather than complain about them on debian-user. Greetings, Ray - DDD package maintainer -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Keeping old user directories
On May 27, Mark Glassberg wrote I wish to install the latest Debian package while retaining the /root and /home directories of my old a.out Slackware system. Can I do this and, if so, what is the best way? Disclaimer: this comes from memory; please check for yourself. The Debian boot/root disks do not automatically mke2fs your partition of choice, so you could do it like this: - build the boot/root/base floppies and boot with them - do not use the initialize partition option - instead, choose mount an existing linux partition, and clean that partition (except the parts to be saved) by hand - close the shell, and continue with the regular installation process. Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: problems with depmod
On May 27, Alexander Koch wrote I got some problems with depmod. Please check that you are using the latest Debian version; older versions somtimes dumped core on 'depmod -a'. What is the latest version of modutils (?) to upgrade to? modutils_2.1.34-5.deb on the mirror I use. And, while asking, what does this message in daemon.log mean? May 26 13:43:53 desire modprobe: can't locate module net-pf-4 You don't have IPX or AppleTalk or somesuch available as a module. Add alias net-pf-4 off to /etc/conf.modules to switch this message off. HTH, Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: failure notice
On May 26, Alexander Koch wrote Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ^ Your message was addressed incorrectly. Here is a list of all of the valid addresses in the lists.debian.org domain: debian-admintool-REQUEST: request server for mailing list. ^ WHY THE FSCK DO I HAVE TO WRITE REQUEST IN capital LETTERS? You should only have to use capital letters for emphasis. PLEASE READ THE FINE MESSAGE QUOTED ABOVE. DO YOU NOTICE THE 'S' IN YOUR REQUEST WHICH MAKES IT FAIL? Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: missed cron jobs
On May 15, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote [problems when cron jobs are never executed on systems that aren't switched on 24hrs/day ?] Could this be harmful? AFAIK: not really. It does mean that logs keep on growing, but that's easily cured. I think a lot of people using linux at home don't leave their computer switched on continuously. Has anyone ever thought of a system that would spot missed cron events and run them at a later time? Would this be useful at all? Something like that has already been implemented: Debian's anacron package (in unstable/admin). HTH, Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Linux Standard File System
On May 13, Brent Hutto wrote I've seen references a couple of times to something like a Linux Standard File System (of course, now I can't quite locate the document(s) where I saw it). Is that a document that exists somewhere like HOWTO or similar? A pointer would be appreciated. You're looking for the FHS (Filesystem Hierarchy Standard), formerly known as FSSTND (Linux Filesystem Standard); Dan Quinlan maintains its homepage at http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xdm-screen 16 bit?
On May 13, Rolf Obrecht wrote On Tue, 13 May 1997, Gernot Bauer wrote: what do I have to change if I want the xdm-login and all further screens to be at least 16 bit (when I dont use xdm I get the right screen depth with xinit -- -bpp 16 but how does this work with xdm)? Change the entry in your /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers file to :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X -bpp 16 Or, generically, set DefaultColorDepth 16 in the Screen section of your /etc/X11/XF86Config. Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ssltelnet -- how secure?
On May 5, Paul Serice wrote I've installed ssltelnet, but can't find much documentation. Is this thing secure? Do all I do is telnet in and out using the new programs? How do I know if a secure connection has been established? If a secure connection is established, does it just protect the password or does it protect the entire session? There is an SSL FAQ posted frequently in comp.security.unix, which should answer at least part of your questions. As an alternative, you could consider SSH (also on debian-non-US), which has more documentation and configurability. HTH, Ray -- Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Postscript to ?
On May 1, Nikolaj Richers wrote Can anyone think of a utility or word processor that can read Postscript files and save them in a common WP or even TeX format? I'm afraid such a utility does not (and up to a certain degree, can not) exist. PostScript is a full general programming language, and thus such a utility would in principle have to understand any program in the PostScript language. ps2ascii and pstotext seem to work for most PostScript, but only produce flat text output. The reason being, I need to move a few years' worth of word processing files off my A3000-040 and the only useful/portable format I can come up with is to print everything to Postscript. This includes stuff like my thesis and dissertation fragments, articles, etc., which I don't really want as ASCII files, if I can avoid it. For a specific word-processor's PostScript output, it might be possible to reconstruct some kind of low-level text with layout information (ASCII + font/style info), but even this would be far from structured text. Your best bet would be - to find another output format which can be converted to one you can use on your current system or - to analyze the word processor's native format and write a converter yourself. HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Postscript to ?
On May 2, Ted Harding wrote The closest you'll find to what you're looking for is in the pstools package, which at best will extract the text characters in the order of printing, but totally unformatted. It may, however, do a lot worse than that. Which program are you referring to, Ted? I'm aware of ps2ascii (comes with ghostscript) and pstotext (in non-free, uses gs-aladin). Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: how to safely install libc6..
On May 1, Paul van Berlo wrote geez:) I'm encountering too many problems lately.. anyways.. I just tried to install libc6 from unstable.. (yes.. I know.. unstable.. but I dont care:) How can I safely install it? because libc6 conflicts with libc-dev and libc5-dev provides libc-dev.. but if I try to remove libc5-dev I'll break alot more packages.. Should I just wait with installing libc6 or does anyone know a safe way on doing this? The safest way is to create a libc6 development system on a separate partition or as a chroot()ed environment. I took the chroot() approach yesterday. The resulting directory structure, to be used with chroot(8) can be found tarred up at ftp://ftp.wi.leidenuniv.nl/pub/linux/devel-ray/highly-experimental/libc6-build-env.tar.gz This is _highly experimental, it works for me_ stuff. Note that for building most programs you'll have to wait for libraries that work with libc6. Greetings, Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking his name in vain. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: upgrade to debian 1.3
On Apr 29, Danny ter Haar wrote During the upgrade i saw the following message: Update-menus: Dpkg is locking dpkg status area: forking to background and wait for /var/lib/dpkg/lock to become unlocked. Setting up lynx (2.7-2) ... Configuration file `/etc/lynx.cfg' [...] The default action is to keep your current version. *** lynx.cfg (Y/I/N/O/Z) [default=N] ? unable to lock dpkg status database(/var/lib/dpkg/lock) This means your system is messed up badly. Aborting. Somebody can shed some light on this ? Just a guess (Joost, please comment): update-menus is expensive to run, so it was modified not to run for each individual package install, but for each dpkg install session. This was done by some form of waiting until dpkg's lock was removed, and then locking it for update-menus. Your example shows that this does (unfortunately) not indicate that the dpkg run is complete, and that this interferes with normal dpkg operation. Maybe this is a solution: let update-menus use a lock file of its own to prevent concurrent runs, and have the single active run wait until dpkg's lock file is gone before doing the expensive operations? Greetings, Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking his name in vain. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Press any key to see message: e...
On Apr 18, Shane D. McAndrew wrote I have a strange problem whilst reading the debian-user mailing lists with my mail reader Elm 2.4 PL25 and metamail 2.7-15. The unstable tree now has elm-me+, which has better support for MIME and PGP than plain old elm; you might want to use that (or mutt, which is somewhat elm-like and has a number of very nice features). The next messages, marked with a P produce the following error when opened- Press any key to see message: e, and can't access the PGP keyring ...so then I go ahead and press a key, and the message source is displayed. Yes, it does sound like a configuration problem, but can someone tell me why about 50% of the debian-user-digests are marked M and the rest are P and sometimes S? I can't see any pattern, I would expect them to be all one or the other. It might have to do with the way elm categorizes them. 'P' and 'S' are for messages which use PGP. Unlike mutt, elm uses only one character position to give this information; maybe 'P' or 'S' override 'M'? Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: hypermail and majordomo - error
On Apr 15, Remco van de Meent wrote I'm using Debian 1.2, patched up to level 9, together with qmail-1.00, majordomo-1.94.1 (patched for use with qmail) and hypermail-1.02-2. Once upon a long ago, the Debian lists' web archive was based on hypermail. Unfortunately, hypermail began to exhibit core dumps on large archives. the archive isn't updated. Qmail is trying to executing the program, but finishes with an error: deferral: Aack,_child_crashed._(#4.3.0). Check for core dumps. You might want to consider doing your archives using MHonArc instead of hypermail. HTH, Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: purging latex
On Apr 10, digger vermont wrote I'm upgrading from 1.2 to bo and at tetex-*'s request am trying to run dpkg --purge --force-depends latex. This is the response I get: (Reading database ... 31313 files and directories currently installed.) Removing latex ... Removing latex format(s) using install-fmt-base(8) /var/lib/dpkg/info/latex.prerm: install-fmt-base: command not found dpkg: error processing latex (--purge): subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 127 Building new latex format(s) using install-fmt-base(8) dpkg: error while cleaning up: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127 Errors were encountered while processing: latex Unfortunately AFAIK there is no way to tell dpkg to ignore prerm errors. Here's what I did (note: in general, one should not modify dpkg's files and scripts directly): since I was removing latex and the other old tex packages anyway, it didn't matter if for a brief period they aren't working right, so I edited /var/lib/dpkg/info/latex.prerm to do 'exit 0' first thing. Thus, the prerm doesn't fail, and latex gets removed. Greetings, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
Re: Where's Mutt?
On Apr 2, Richard Kilgore wrote What happenned to mutt? It was in the mail subdirectory for a little bit, and it still appears in the Packages file, but the latest .deb file (or an old one for that matter) is nowhere to be found. I withdrew it from the regular distribution and moved it to debian-non-US, because our policy wrt packages that have hooks to interact with cryptographic software (in mutt's case PGP) was unclear. Recently, the policy was clarified, and I've uploaded 0.67-2 and 0.68 to master; expect these to show up in the mail section soon. HTH, Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Smail, From header
On Mar 26, J. LILLIBRIDGE wrote I'm running Debian Linux at home. When I send e-mail out, I want to have the From: header say [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've figured out how to get nmsu.edu put in there (instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED]). But my login here at home is just jl. What is the best way to make sure the From: field is adjusted? I'd rather not change my login name on my debian box to jlillibr. I would want to have similar setups for other users. I'm running smail version 3.2-3. With some mail user agents, e.g. mutt (available from debian-non-US), you can add/modify arbitrary headers. E.g., on a laptop system, my account is ray; I have a my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J.H.M. Dassen) in my .muttrc, and this setting gets used. HTH, Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: dselect selection
On Mar 21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote I want to install debian on different PC's using same selection of packages for each PC. Is it possible if I have one PC fully configured to take its list of installed packages and install these on a second pc, whithout having to go through the whole list with dselect again? I'm currently using the debian release on the recent Infomagic CD-ROM set (the green one). This has been discussed on this list before, but I don't recall the suggestions; check the archives or dejanews (linux.debian.user). I suspect that you can do it like this: [note: I have never done this, I just took a look at dpkg's options] [on mother machine A] dpkg --get-selections thelist [on child machine B] dpkg --set-selections thelist dselect install Additionally, you'll probably want to reuse your configuration files, so something like cd / ; tar cvf conffiles.tar `cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/*conffiles` and delete host-specific conffiles (e.g. /etc/hostname) from that. HTH, Ray -- J.H.M. Dassen | RUMOUR Believe all you hear. Your world may [EMAIL PROTECTED] | not be a better one than the one the blocks | live in but it'll be a sight more vivid. | - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
MIME-capable non-X newsreader?
Can one of our non-X newsreaders deal reasonably with MIME messages? (by reasonably I mean along the way mutt works for mail: decode base64/quoted-printable messages and headers, handle text/* itself, and offer to run metamail for non-text parts (e.g. application/postscript); being able to send MIME messages would be useful too). TIA, Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking his name in vain. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: [Fwd: Re: MIME-capable non-X newsreader?]
On Mar 21, Ken Gaugler wrote This guy must not really want anyone to send him help via email! [REFUSED message deleted] I appreciate help via email very much (which is why my Usenet posts don't have mangled From:s). However, I don't want to waste time on junk email (aka UCE, aka bulk mail aka mail spam), which is why I use a filter to bounce messages from sites known to send (or condone sending) junk mail. wco.com is (or at least, was) among those. That is why, on 961127, I added it to my filter. If wco has improved its behaviour, I'll be glad to remove it from my filter. Ray -- J.H.M. Dassen | RUMOUR Believe all you hear. Your world may [EMAIL PROTECTED] | not be a better one than the one the blocks | live in but it'll be a sight more vivid. | - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Problem with Smail
On Mar 20, Hamish Moffatt wrote It is. Due to unclarity wrt ITAR for packages with hooks for crypto, such as mutt, the Debian mutt packages resides on debian-non-US sites nowadays. I've reported a bug against ftp.debian.org to get the old package removed. Which is odd, because the mutt web page states that the author (who resides in the US), does not want mutt exported from the US. Odd that Debian takes it outside the US, and then won't let it be exported back. As I understand it, you should be able to import mutt (or any such weapons :-) just fine, but not re-export it. It is difficult to prevent such re-export. My preferred way would be to have 'US-only' sites, where you can get mutt, pgp-us etc., but which take some precautions, say like the mutt homesite does (you can download mutt from the homesite from outside the US, but it resides in a subdir of an unreadable US-only directory, whose name is in the README.us-only, thus making sure that you are aware of the problems). I tried to get 0.65 (beta) to compile here on Solaris, but none of the US sites would let me have it and none of the non-US sites had it yet. I always put a copy on ftp://ftp.wi.LeidenUniv.nl/pub/linux/devel-ray Greetings, Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig
Re: 1.1 - 1.2 dselect/dpkg breaks
On Mar 19, Nathan O. Siemers wrote There's no big syntax error that I can see (with my uneducated eyes) in that area of available, The section before it most likely has an entry with a ':' in the version numbering. This is a use of the new epoch feature in dpkg (to deal with packages whose version numbering scheme has changed), which causes problems with older dpkgs. and now dpkg won't run because of the problem. How do I work around this? Delete available for now? Thanks for any help! I recently did an 1.1-1.2 upgrade. When I encountered this problem, I removed the offending entries in available, installed the new dpkg, and asked dselect to update the list of available packages again. HTH, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Problem with Smail
On Mar 19, Alexander Koch wrote So you may see what Mutt is like. But you should be careful. I'd say: stick with the Debian- MUTT- Package and you're fine. It's not as news as the real MUTT but it _works_ (believe me, it's a bit tricky to make it It is. Due to unclarity wrt ITAR for packages with hooks for crypto, such as mutt, the Debian mutt packages resides on debian-non-US sites nowadays. I've reported a bug against ftp.debian.org to get the old package removed. work sometimes). Basically, the Debian mutt package is simply the latest non-developer release (i.e. one announced on mutt-announce), with all bugfix patches that apply cleanly, and a matching Muttrc. Otherwise if you install it by hand and want to use it, you are better off following the mutt-users mailing list, there're still too much bugfixes and expermintal patches flying around. Remember: MUTT is still alpha software! Well, besides the point ELM 2.5 beta is _without_ PGP support at all there's only one choice for me. And please don't mention PINE, thanks. ,-) The Debian elm-me+ package has PGP support. Greetings, Ray -- Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden.
Re: Mutt and Menus
On Mar 19, Luis Francisco Gonzalez wrote after reading about mutt I decided to try again (first time it would give some sort of error). Anyway, I like it very much but sort of miss the menus in elm. Is there any way of activating the menu display (as was possible under elm). I have looked through the documentation but couldn't find a way of doing it. mutt doesn't have a main menu like elm does. The closest you'll get is with the short command list in newer versions: q:Quit d:Del u:Undel s:Save m:Mail r:Reply g:Group ?:Help For this, get a new mutt. The one on ftp.debian.org is old, and should be deleted. New versions are available from debian-non-US sites and ftp://ftp.wi.leidenuniv.nl/pub/linux/devel-ray/. HTH, Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: shared library tutorial?
On Feb 28, Dale Martin wrote Can anyone point me to an online reference on how to compile and use shared libraries? Check out ELF: from the Programmer's Perspective by H.J. Lu: http://www.debian.org/Documentation/elf/elf.html ftp://tsx-11.mit.edu/pub/linux/packages/GCC/elf.ps.gz HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
Re: PLIP setup?
On Feb 27, Steve Reid wrote
I'm trying to configure a PLIP connection between two machines, but I'm
having some problems...
[...]
It looks as if the PLIP device is not compiled into the kernel. I don't
get any message regarding PLIP when I boot, but I _know_ I have PLIP
compiled into the kernel. I've tried building a new kernel a couple of
times and made sure to compile PLIP in. A grep of my .config file shows
the CONFIG_PLIP=y line.
The system does notice lp1 and lp2 at boot, but says (polling) instead of
using an IRQ.
If you want to use PLIP, you must make sure that lp is compiled as a module.
This is documented in the PLIP minihowto, /usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/PLIP.gz if you
have the doc-linux package installed; see also drivers/net/README[12].PLIP
in the kernel source.
I'm attaching my plip-connect script.
HTH,
Ray
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LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto-
destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch
it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own.
- The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
#! /bin/sh
set -e
# This assumes that both local and remote agree on their /etc/hosts
# data for PLIP use (hosts one and two),
# e.g. 10.0.0.23 one and 10.0.0.42 two
usage () {
cat 2 'END'
Usage: plipconnect [one|two] [up|down]
[one|two]: hostname
[up|down]: desired connection state
END
exit 1
}
if test $1 = one ; then
local=one
remote=two
else if test $1 = two ; then
local=two
remote=one
else
usage
fi
fi
if test $2 = up ; then
insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/net/plip.o || true
sleep 1
ifconfig plip1 $local pointopoint $remote up
route add $remote
# Don't mess up the console with timeouts
start-stop-daemon --stop --verbose --pidfile /var/run/klogd.pid || true
sleep 2
start-stop-daemon --start --verbose --pidfile /var/run/klogd.pid \
--exec /sbin/klogd -- -c 3 || true
route add $remote
ifconfig
echo
route
echo up done
if grep -q '^/' /etc/exports ; then
echo You have entries in /etc/exports; assuming NFS daemons are active
else
echo You have no entries in /etc/exports; you have to start NFS daemons
manually
fi
else
if test $2 = down ; then
ifconfig plip1 down || true
/etc/init.d/sysklogd restart || true
#route del $remote
ifconfig
echo
route
echo down done.
else
usage
fi
fi
Re: debian-newbie list
On Feb 20, Bruce Perens wrote I think what we need first is a person to coordinate all of the oldbies who are answering questions. There has to be a schedule, perhaps a mail alias that is directed to different people at different times, etc. Second, we need a person who edits all of the questions and answers into a web tree. The web tree should be orgnanized by package or something, and then under the package name you see a big list of questions and click on them to see tha answers. It could be very useful to use the same system that's used for the kernel hacker's guide (http://www.redhat.com:8080/HyperNews/get/khg.html). The KHG uses HyperNews (http://union.ncsa.uiuc.edu/HyperNews/get/hypernews.html); described as HyperNews is a cross between the hypermedia of the WWW and Usenet News. Readers can reply to base articles they read in the HyperNews web, and browse through the messages written by other people. A forum(base article) holds a list of messages on a topic, and you can reply to the base article or another reply. These messages are laid out in an indented tree format that shows how the messages are related (i.e. all replies to a message are listed under it and indented). Users can become members of HyperNews or subscribe to a forum in order to get e-mail whenever a message is posted, so they don't have to check if anything new has been added. This e-mail gateway is also bi-directional, so the user doesn't have to find a web browser to reply. HyperNews then places the message in the appropriate forum. Note that the editor will need an account on the machine hosting HyperNews; www.debian.org is based on mirroring only, so another host would have to be used. Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /usr/include/linux, /usr/include/asm, ...
On Feb 18, Hamish Moffatt wrote So, what else are the links good for? Most programs do not (and should not) depend on kernel version specific api's; and the handful that do should ask for and include -I/usr/src/linux anyway. Has anyone had any luck compiling (z)ftape 3.02 on debian, then? I've tried, but it (reasonably) requires current kernel headers, and despite adding the above to several Makefiles, it still does not look in /usr/src/linux first. Besides, the gcc manual page says: Like most GNU manpages, it says: refer to the info version for up to date / more complete information. There you find -isystem dir Add a directory to the beginning of the second include path, marking it as a system directory, so that it gets the same special treatment as is applied to the standard system directories. -nostdinc Do not search the standard system directories for header files. Only the directories you have specified with `-I' options (and the current directory, if appropriate) are searched. See section Options for Directory Search, for information on `-I'. By using both `-nostdinc' and `-I-', you can limit the include-file search path to only those directories you specify explicitly. Which should provide you with the control needed. HTH, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there a dictionary for abbreviations like WTF?
On Feb 18, Dr. Andreas Wehler wrote I would like to resolve these many abbreviations today, as So, is there any appropriate dictionary? Thanks. http://www.ucc.ie/cgi-bin/acronym http://www.chemie.fu-berlin.de/cgi-bin/acronym http://thorplus.lib.purdue.edu/reference/index.html Of course, YMMV WRT completeness and accuracy. HTH, Ray - who loves YKYHBHTLW posts -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian review in Linux Journal
On Jan 21, Eloy A. Paris wrote I'd like to know if someone can give me a link to a place where I can read the Debian review made by the Linux Journal staff in their November 1996 issue. I don't think you can find it online yet. But, http://www.ssc.com/lj/mags.html gives an email address for communicating I'd really like to see the article `Linus conquers the world' from issue 42 on your website. From www.debian.org I thought the review was in September's issue so I order the back issue and sadly found out that in that issue there was just a distribution comparisson. If you have a suggestion on how to rephrase the LJ references line, please contact me in private email. Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian includes dir lacks symlinks to kernel sources
On Jan 20, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote
I discovered today, while attempting to compile the modutils for the
Linux 2.1.21 development kernel, that Debian installs a set of kernel
includes into /usr/include/{asm,linux}, rather than the standard
symlinks to the kernel source tree!
There are good reasons for this. Please read /usr/doc/libc5-dev/FAQ.gz .
HTH,
Ray
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it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own.
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Re: cron.daily et al.
On Jan 17, Jan Camenisch wrote [cron suggestion for machines that don't run all day] How about a (cron) job, that executed every time the machine gets booted and that checks when the cron jobs were executed for the last time. If these for were not executed for say two days (weeks, months) then they get executed regardless the actual hour, day, week of month. It looks a lot like you're reinventing the anacron package. HTH, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can any one recommend a mailreader...
On Jan 15, Walter Tautz wrote other than pine. I would like a simple curses based reader that easily allows one to configure the mail to read automatically into separate folders depending on the address it came from, I'm not sure if I'm understanding you here: if you want incoming mail to be split into different folders, this should be done by a mail-processor (such as procmail or mailagent), rather than a mail user agent (mailer). allows filename completion when reading files in or when going to different folders,etc. Preferably any configuration should be built into the interface itself, i.e. it would be nice to avoid editing a configuration file directly. Mutt comes close: it is curses based and can be configured to go through several folders in sequence. It does have a configuration file however (although you can change settings for the current run at run-time). Other distinguishing features: MIME support (mutt handles text types itself, others go through metamail), threading, PGP support, color support, message postponement, very configurable, easy for ELM users to switch to. See http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~me/mutt/index.html , http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/ for detailed information. HTH, Ray P.S. Debian has a mutt package, but it is somewhat outdated. -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ghostscript
On Jan 16, Bob Clark wrote I think you want the gs package, Yes. The non-free one if possible, because it is better. actually gv is probably better. No. ghoscript is a PostScript interpreter, with very limited viewing capabilities; gv and ghostview are PostScript viewers that use ghostscript as their interpreter. gv is based on ghostview, but looks cooler, does PDF (acrobat) and probably has other advantages. Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking his name in vain. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libndbm + libdbm
Fundamental writes: I was wondering where i could get these libraries from? I searched the ftp.debian.org via the web debian package finder and came up with nothing. Get the libgdbm* packages from the base and devel sections; they provide them. HTH, Ray -- J.H.M. Dassen | RUMOUR Believe all you hear. Your world may [EMAIL PROTECTED] | not be a better one than the one the blocks | live in but it'll be a sight more vivid. | - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel make deb fails
[moved to debian-user@lists.debian.org; you were using debian-changes!] Fundamental writes: I have installed the kernel source, and when i get to teh stage where i should make deb ; make clean i get the following error, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [/usr/src/linux]: make deb make: *** No rule to make target `deb'. Stop. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [/usr/src/linux]: what have i missed? It should say 'make dep' (for dependencies), not 'make deb'. HTH, Ray -- J.H.M. Dassen | RUMOUR Believe all you hear. Your world may [EMAIL PROTECTED] | not be a better one than the one the blocks | live in but it'll be a sight more vivid. | - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: suid problem
In the past few weeks I've had a lot of problems with various binaries losing their suid bits. For example, I upgraded smail to the latest (package), and started getting errors from smail telling me it couldn't write to the paniclog. It wasn't suid, as it should've been. A few people have told me in mail that this is a Linux 2.1 bug. I don't think so. I suspect this is a bug in the version of dpkg you're using. Please check if the setuid bit is set in the '.deb' file: dpkg-deb --contents smail*deb; if it is, and it is not present after dpkg -i smail*deb, it is definitively a problem with your dpkg version. However I spoke to someone on the kernel mailing list, and he said that as far as he knew, it was a feature, and is in most unixes and to his knowledge even Linux 2.0. To my testing it is not in Linux 2.0, but it is in Solaris 5.5, for example. No. This is about setuid _scripts_. Setuid scripts are a security hole on almost every system, because of a time window in which the script might be replaced after the setuid has gone effective, but before the interpreter has read it. Solaris is free from this hole. In linux, setuid bits on _scripts_ are ignored. Hope this helps, Ray -- J.H.M. Dassen | RUMOUR Believe all you hear. Your world may [EMAIL PROTECTED] | not be a better one than the one the blocks | live in but it'll be a sight more vivid. | - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SCCS for Linux
Is there SCCS for Linux? I have been able to find it. True SCCS is commercial. Try a dejanews (www.dejanews.com) search on SCCS Linux; it results in 50+ hits, including a references to the following URL: ftp://tsx-11.mit.edu/pub/linux/sources/usr.bin/MySC-linux.tar.gz Hope this helps, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PPP
Are there any programs available for linux that allow you to logon to a normal telnet getty and then start up a PPP connection from the command line? I have a dialup connection to the whole network, but the PPP lines for this school are monstrously overcrowded. I'm not aware of such a tool for PPP, but there is one for SLIP: SLiRP. Basically, you dial in, make a terminal connection, preferably make that connection 8-bit clean, and start a daemon on the remote system. Check out /usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/Dip+SLiRP+CSLIP.gz (doc-linux package). Hope this helps, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hypermail (web-based mail archiver) for debian?
Is there a version of Hypermail (the web-based mail archiver) for Debian? No. Having used Hypermail, I recommend mhonarc (hypermail dumped core when used on large archives on FreeBSD), which is packaged: Version: 1.2.3-2 Last modified: Mon Sep 23 09:19:52 1996 Architecture: i386 Maintainer: Michael Alan Dorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: Mail to HTML converter _MHonArc_ is a Perl program for converting e-mail messages as specified in RFC 822 and RFC 1521 (_MIME_) to HTML. Depends: perl Hope this helps, Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pgp
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Lars wrote: To sign e-mail by hand, you should save the text into a file, say foo, and then run PGP with the -sta options: [example deleted] You can do this from inside an editor too; for VIM, select the body (shift-V) and do !pgp -fast (pgp as [f]ilter; [a]scii [s]ign [t]ext) On our Sun systems, we have two versions of vim, with 4.2, you don't get too see pgp's prompt for the passphrase, and pgp's stderr output is captured by the pipe too; with 3.0, you get too see pgp's prompt, and the pipe command doesn't capture stderr. Stuart, I like 3.0's behaviour better. Can this be configured with 4.x somehow? A better way is to use a mailer that understands PGP. I don't know how well elm can do that. I use exmh myself. exmh is excellent. Basic elm can't. Our elm includes an old PGP patch; the current version is available at ftp://ftp.tik.ee.ethz.ch/pub/packages/elm-pgp . elm-2.4ME+ (an elm derivative with numerous features) supports PGP too (ftp://dionysos.fmi.fi/KEH). Greetings, Ray -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBMomeNIcCuHlnLQXBAQEGUgP+K65BiNQKx/fK4u0yO9JYcN1DW+Y4mklr AN5nZc2aLD+11VwSDFlReZi39LlV/TATziUmMk3qBD6wLc2CLPojmxe6JSFoOyL7 lURro8gKuDDpaNwida7svjX/gqT0W6mzAsxrzfT+oWtiAmvw5/a6GrdLfznUkTBQ 4K8k0qEbRt8= =/qrC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Obsig: developing a new sig -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
VIM: filtering (Was Re: pgp)
I wrote: On our Sun systems, we have two versions of vim, with 4.2, you don't get too see pgp's prompt for the passphrase, and pgp's stderr output is captured by the pipe too; with 3.0, you get too see pgp's prompt, and the pipe command doesn't capture stderr. Stuart, I like 3.0's behaviour better. Can this be configured with 4.x somehow? To answer my own question: yes this can be configured: the vim variable shellredir is a format for how the shell redirection (involved in the '!' construct) is done; after adding set shellredir=%s to my .vimrc, I got the old behaviour back. Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to download in the background?
In libwww-perl there is a command GET URL that makes the trick. If you have a squid proxy, you can read it next time directly from cache. Otherwise, you can put it to a file. Wouldn't it be easier to use 'lynx' (-dump or -source or somesuch) or 'snarf'? On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, Lawrence Chim wrote: Is it possible to download something, say http://xxx.xxx.xxx/abc.zip in the background? For example, I can run ncftp, get a file, press CTRL-Z, type bg, then I can logout and ncftp still downloading the file for me. Is there an equivalent command for downloading from http? Ray -- J.H.M. Dassen | RUMOUR Believe all you hear. Your world may [EMAIL PROTECTED] | not be a better one than the one the blocks | live in but it'll be a sight more vivid. | - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Annoying package dependence concept
[Johannes complained about dselect not allowing you to override dependencies] But as it is currently, maintaining a Debian system by using deselect is a real pain ... 'dselect' is aimed at normal users, and what you see as restrictions in at, can also be seen as preventive measures. If you don't like 'dselect', you can always use 'dpkg' (the lower-level utility); 'dpkg' allows you to override dependencies. (In fact, I've used dpkg since before dselect, and only learned to use dselect lately (a SLiRP connection now allows me to keep stuff up to date; the FTP method is very handy)). Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Infomagic Release
I have been told that InfoMagic has just released a 6 cd-rom set for linux which includes the Debian/GNU Linux 1.1.4. Is this a stable and recent version or is a later version out there? The numbered releases are stable, but not frozen: once fixes are applied, the last number is incremented. Currently, 1.1 is at 1.1.12. Of course, there are always later versions :-) - the unstable (development) version; only via FTP or custom-made CDs - a gold CD with the stable release; see http://www.debian.org/order.html for details. Hope this helps, Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Glimpse search?
Is it common knowledge that the search engine isn't working on www.debian.org? It should by now be common knowledge that no CGI script whatsoever is working on www.debian.org. Explanation: www.debian.org has moved to another machine. In order to make mirroring it easier, it has been decided to implement a cgi.debian.org to execute CGI scripts. The HTTPD on cgi.debian.org has not been set up yet. I'm trying to search the mail archives. I've updated the root document to include a link to Brian C. White's InSite search system. www.debian.org has not mirrored this yet. Try http://insite.verisim.com/search/debian/simple Hope this helps, Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where is pgp?
In an old package list, I have copied in August, the debian pgp packages (US and international) were in non-free. To prevent problems because of US export restrictions, the PGP packages were moved outside of the US. Currently, you can find them at http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/~wirzeniu/debian/index.html I expect there'll be a centralized FTP site for non-US debian packages (pgp, ssh, ssl,...). Hope this helps, Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc linker-error's
[linking C++ code with gcc fails]:
gcc -o test test.cc
both give the following (linker) errors:
/tmp/cca001121.o: In function `main':
/tmp/cca001121.o(.text+0x13): undefined reference to `cout'
/tmp/cca001121.o(.text+0x13): undefined reference to
`ostream:operator(char const *)'
does anyone have a solution to this problem.
Use 'g++' instead of 'gcc' when compiling C++ code; it'll tell the
linker to link with the correct libraries for C++ code
('iostream' or 'stdc++', I believe).
Now for the next error you'll probably experience.
test doesn't produce any output.
That's right... if you call it with simply test, you'll start
/bin/test instead of ./test.
Hope this helps,
Ray
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find and symlinks question
Hi, As some of you may have noticed already, the http://www.debian.org/FTP/ interface unfortunately has duplicated entries in it. The script that generates it does a 'find' through all the directories of the FTP archive. To be precisely, it does a find unstable contrib non-free -name '*.deb' -follow The problem is that the same file is now listed under its real name (.../binary-i386/foo/bar.deb), and under the symlinks (.../binary/foo/bar.deb). However, I cannot remove the '-follow' since 'unstable' is itself a symlink (currently to 'rex'), and would not be processed without it. The 'ls' documentation mentions a '--dereference' switch, which could be used to do something like find `ls --dereference unstable contrib non-free` -name '*.deb' but this switch doesn't appear to work. How do I get a list of '*.deb' under all of unstable, contrib and non-free, without getting duplicates because of symlinks? Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking his name in vain. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: find and symlinks question
[my find/symlink problem: find each file _once_ in the FTP directory structure; to remove duplicates from http://www.debian.org/FTP/] Phil How about: Phil find unstable/* contrib non-free -name '*.deb' Phil It won't find hidden files in unstable/, but it doesn't look like you Phil want to. Martin How about trying find unstable/* contrib/* non-free/* -name '*.deb', Martin or something similar? Thanks! Although this doesn't appeal to my sense of aesthetics, it does the job. Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mounting files as filesystems
I remember having heard of some way to mount a *file* as filesystem. I would want to use this to mount an iso9660 filesystem that is created as file. Still with me? :) I couldn't find info on this anywhere. It's documented in the kernel's Configure.help: Loop device support CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP Enabling this option will allow you to mount a file as a file system. This is useful if you want to check an ISO9660 file system before burning the CD, or want to use floppy images without first writing them to floppy. This option also allows one to mount a filesystem with encryption. To use these features, you need a recent version of mount, such as the one found at ftp.win.tue.nl:/pub/linux/util/mount-2.5X.tar.gz. If you want to use encryption, you might also be interested in the (old) DES package ftp.funet.fi:/pub/OS/Linux/BETA/loop/des.1.tar.gz. Note that this loop device has nothing to do with the loopback device used for network connections from the machine to itself. Most users will answer N here. Debian's mount is 2.5l-1; should be recent enough. (there is a 2.5n now). Ray -- J.H.M. Dassen | RUMOUR Believe all you hear. Your world may [EMAIL PROTECTED] | not be a better one than the one the blocks | live in but it'll be a sight more vivid. | - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Archive, out of date web pages, Navigator 3.0, etc
I'm trying to help myself. Really. But, the Debian web pages only list mailing list archives up to June 1996, My scripts that made the archives then were lost in a disk crash; I've recently recreated them, and the FTP archive (/debian/debian-lists) are up to date. As for the webserver, it has very recently moved to a new machine. Right now, there is no /FTP/, no list archives etc. We're working on them. Hopefully, sometime in the not too distant future, www.debian.org will function properly (or even improved). 10. Things seem to have just fallen off the face of the earth after June 1996. What's going on? There are dead links on the arguably most important document on the Debian WWW site: The Installation Instructions. None of the links to the base14*, root.bin, and boot1440.bin disks work. Whoops... the announcement was written when ftp.i-connect.net was more up to date then ftp.debian.org. I've fixed the links in the master copy which is mirrored to www.debian.org. Thanks, Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: man page for protoize
Is there anywhere a man page to (un)protoize? I'd liked to know if there are some options that controll compiler directories, etc. I think these programs came with gcc, and I'd liked to avoid unpacking all the gcc sources. (un)protoize is documented in the GCC documentation, which is in the info format; if you have both gcc and info installed, you can do 'info gcc' 'sprotoize' (and repeat 's') until you get to the section Running Protoize. Hope this helps, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unidentified subject!
I have no idea why the 'non-free' set is not included on the [Infomagic] CD set, other than for space reasons, as most of the programs in that set are included in the other distributions. Probably because we are considerate :-( In Debian, all packages that cannot be freely redistributed (e.g. that may not (always) be put on CD, or exported from the USA) are separated from the main distribution in the 'non-free' section, whereas other distribution don't make that distinction. CD manufacturers could put parts of non-free on CD, but they'd have to take the effort to check it per package. As each package includes copyright information, this is not too hard to do. Joel, please consider making that effort for the next Infomagic release. Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: ftp.debian.org
I maintain a mirror of ftp.debian.org for internal use (we've got several linux machines), however, the last several times I've started to run mirror its reported: compare directories (src 8356, dest 32957) I'm not too keen on letting 3/4 of the mirror get toasted, so I've killed the mirror before it could start its delete phase. After investigating a little, it seems that most of the missing files where in the WebPages hierarchy that is empty now. Is this the new policy or an accident or...? This is the new policy. Most FTP mirrors don't have any need for the webpages. I guess I don't mind the loss of the bug tracking system, etc.. but the list archives were nice to have. You should still have the list archives in /debian/debian-lists (in mbox format instead of HTML). Hope this helps, Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Filename case
I'm using Debian .96 and have a need to change all the files in a directory from uppercase to lowercase (ftp'ed from DOS). Is there a quick method or command to do this? Not a single command, but a small combination of utils will do. [Solution for use with a Bourne shell, e.g. bash; a (t)csh solution is left as an exercise to the reader] 1. 'cd' to the appropriate directory 2. Do the following: for file in * ; do mv $file `echo $file | tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]'` done Hope this helps, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
Re: llseek error large partitions
Also, I receive this message when past this point and writing the inode tables, 256/350 mkfs.ext2: Can't resolve symbol llseek Does anyone have any idea what is going on here? The install discs have a slimmed-down version of C library on them to allow the rest of the installation system to fit. In the process of slimming libc, bits have been missed out: it seems like llseek() is one of the functions that have been purged. Yes. Please could you file a bug against the installation discs virtual package? (I would do it myself, only I can't remember the exact name). No need to. This bug has been reported at least twice already: #3892: mkfs.ext2: can't resolve symbol 'llseek' Package: rootdisk; Reported by: Paul Traina [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 51 days old. #3451: Missing label 'llseek' in e2fsck - rootdisk Package: rootdisk; Reported by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 74 days old. Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Debian Logo?
Is there an official Debian Logo? I haven't found one. There was one: a baby-gnu. It was decided to drop it following the troubles with the FSF (the lignux stuff). I still have copies: http://www.debian.org/attic/debian-small.gif http://www.debian.org/attic/debian.gif DIE ENTE BLEIBT DRAUSSEN! As opposed to in die Badewanne(sp?)? It looks like a rubber one. Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig
Re: Protections against a mad maintainer?
It just occured to me that any evil intentioned or mad maintainer could add
rm -rf /
or anything of this sort in a postinst script.
Yes. Or hide stuff in the binaries. You need root permissions to install
stuff in /bin etc.
I just would like to know what kind of protection debian could offer against
such an unpleasant event. I am sure Bruce cannot afford to be very picky in
the
choice of maintainers (there are orphan packages crying for one).
This is the kind of argument against Debian being used at large in my
institute, the result being that half man pages are missing, even if you have
such a complete manpath as
This argument is not limited to Debian. It is as valid for any binaries
whatsoever, including those in commercial systems (how do you know that
your nice Commercial Unix (or DOS, or...) will not autodestruct on
March 4, 1997?)
This is a matter of trust.
If you don't trust binaries, install only a minimal system, read the
source (every line of it), understand it, compile it and install it.
At least with free software, you have the source...
(as Joey puts it: never trust an OS you don't have the sources for).
And with Debian, uploads are PGP-signed by their (known) maintainer, so
you can at least be reasonably sure from whom they're coming from.
If I would want to destroy systems, I'd upload some binaries to sunsite;
with reasonable precautions, it is very difficult or even impossible to
trace them back to me.
This kind of subject comes up very often on comp.security.{unix,misc}
and likely comp.risks too.
Ray
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I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking
his name in vain.
- The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Compile error
as86 -0 -a -o bootsect.o bootsect.s make[3] as86: command not found. Any ideas what am doing wrong? Nothing. You just don't have a package installed that is required to build the kernel: bin86 (29 Kb) Section: devel Version: 0.3-1 Last modified: Fri Apr 26 10:47:00 1996 Architecture: i386 Maintainer: Joost Witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: Assembler and loader for kernel compilation. Depends: libc5 BTW I noticed a new vmlinux that is twice as large as my vmlinuz, so am guessing as86 has something to do with compressing vmlinux. I'm not really sure. It is needed to build the 16-bit start-code for the kernel. After this code is executed, the compressed kernel image is decompressed. Hope this helps, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Digested version of this list? (Stopped archives)
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jean Orloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 22 Aug 1996 17:00:07 -0700, Ken Gaugler [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Ken At 10:33 AM 8/22/96 -0700, you wrote: Is there a digested version of this mailing list?... Ken Check out http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/ NOPE! Precisely! Those stop on June 24. Any follow-up out there? Not yet... the scripts I used to generate the mbox format archives on the FTP site, from which the webbified version is generated, were lost in a disk crash. As I'm finishing my master's thesis, I haven't found time yet to reconstruct them. (Hopefully, I'll reconstruct them in September). Greetings, Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking his name in vain. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Please explain Motif issues (was: StarOffice under Debian)
Can someone point me toward the FAQ or HOWTO that will explain the issues with Motif? Please clarify what you mean by the issues. Why is Motif hard to come by Because it is commercial software. You have to pay for it. Several vendors sell Motif for Linux. See the Linux Commercial HOWTO, section Product groups, subsection X Windows related products for details. and what is Lesstif? Lesstif (http://www.hungry.com/products/) is a freeware clone of Motif 1.2. Once it is finished, you can use it to compile or run code that requires Motif. Hope this helps, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Formatting a 4GB Partition
There was some kind of a bug in 2.0.7, so 2.0.8 was released; similarly for 2.0.8-2.0.9 and 2.0.9-2.0.10. 2.0.8 is however, stable. This is the kernel which the current Debian installation uses. the message Can't resolve symbol llseek. This sounds like a programming error. The symbol should be lseek. No. llseek is a version of lseek using a 64bit argument (which is required when dealing with 4Gb partitions). # cd /usr/lib ; nm libc.a | grep llseek __llseek.o: T __llseek W llseek See llseek(2). Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
Re: new to debian; some questions
Is there shadow password support for debian yet? (Or PAM?) Yes. There is an experimental shadow package, and a libpam has recently been uploaded (expect it to be visible in a few days). Does debian use the user groups system that redhat uses, that makes each user be in a group containing only themselves, so the umask can be set to 002? I see in /etc/group that each user does get placed in their own group. If you want to, you can change this behaviour. (USERHOMES var in /etc/adduser.conf) Does dpkg have any way to verify a package? If anyone's familiar with rpm -V, that's what I'm looking for.. something that can list what files in a package have been modified since it was installed. I think I'm out of luck here :-( dpkg does know about configuration files per package. If you've modified them, and upgrade to a package with a new version of that config file, dpkg will prompt you to choose between keeping your current file, or switching to the new default. You can do dpkg -s package to list its conffiles. E.g. adduser has /etc/adduser.conf as a conffile. Hope this helps, Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig
Re: Ught Oh =O
Heh, I have a problem. I got a virus on my Windows partition ( And YES I did scan it first with norton ). But After I debugged, and fixed as much as I could, everything looked good... But now on boot up - LILO dosent show... It just boots into win - blows ( oops, I meant Wondows ;). Hmm. Looks like something (the virus, windows95 during a reinstall or perhaps your anti-virus software) overwrote your master boot record. Is there some string or sommand I enter in somewhere ? any advice ? ( Please take in mind I have only had Linux for about 3 weeks ). Here's what should work: - Get or remake the Debian boot disk (first disk of the 6-set) using rawrite. - Boot with that disk. On the lilo prompt, press tab and say Linux root=/dev/hda4 ro (presuming /dev/hda4 == 4th partition on first drive) is your Linux root partition. - Linux should boot more or less normal now. Log in, and rerun lilo. Hope this helps, Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: kernel header files
I don't know why there is a libc5-dev. If I install a new kernel, it comes with its only kernel headers. Is it necessary to install lib5-dev in order to compile programs. Yes. The kernel headers are not enough to compile even a normal Hello, world! program. stdio.h etc are libc headers, and are in the libc5-dev package. Also, if I install libc5-dev, can I still install a newer version of linux kernel whenever it is available. Yes. As I understand it, the kernel source does not use the /usr/include/asm etc; it uses its own linux/include/asm. The only reason that libc5-dev contains kernel headers is that the kernel headers change quite often, and have broken normal compilation a couple of patchlevels back. Hope this helps, Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: netscape*.deb installation problem
When I dpkg -iGBE netsc*.deb, I get the message that Netscape wants to see the archive netscape*.tar.gz in /tmp. Nothing further seems to happen. The obvious thing to try was to cd /tmp, then run dpkg, but alas, no joy:-( What's the story? The story is available via dpkg --info netscape*deb: Netscape (pronounced Mozilla) is a graphical World-Wide-Web browser with many features. It supports advanced features of HTML and new technologies such as Java from Sun Microsystems. . Netscape Communications Corporation does not allow redistribution of their software. Therefore, this package requires the user to fetch the netscape archive seperately and place it in the directory pointed to by the TMPDIR environment variable (or /tmp if TMPDIR not defined) before attempting to install this package. You can get the linux-i486 packages via anonymous ftp from ftp[1-9].netscape.com. . Do NOT try to install any version of Netscape other than Atlas-b3 with this package! . Netscape Communications Corporation does not support the Linux release in the slightest, even for paying customers. It has been made available purely as a courtesy, so please do not send them questions about Linux. . This installer package has been placed in the public domain! Ray
Re: Root login is waiting
I have a problem with root login again. All other logins are fine, but root login is waiting after I typed the password. Even su isn't working anymore. I updtated some packages, including a few from Incoming this morning, after reboot, this behaviour is present. Sound familiar, a solution? You have upgraded to the latest sys(k?)logd package from Incoming. It looks like syslogd isn't started correctly. login tries to syslog(2) in case of root login, and this syscall causes the login to hang. For the same reason, sudo will not work either. Can you check if you have a /dev/xconsole? Maybe syslog tries to write to it. I had this problem often with the 1.3.6x kernels, probably due to some incorrect FIFO stuff. Fast solution: reboot in single user mode and reinstall the old syslogd package. Greetings, Ray
Re: Problem with web site
a couple of weeks ago I reported a problem with the web site: I have a problem with the Debian web site: http://www.debian.org/ The Name, Description, and Maintainer fields of some of the packages are empty, trying to download such a package results in an Unknown URL error. Ray responded with: There was a name translation bug in the FTP-interface, which has been fixed now. Please notice that the URLs produced are FTP-URLs; the FTP site is overflowed with requests, so please download from a mirror (see http://www.debian.org/ftp-list.html). The missing information for various entries occurs when the script that generates the pages isn't able to execute dpkg-deb; please contact me directly if this occurs. Realy, the problem disappeared for while. Unfortunately, I now have exactly the same problem again. The problem is that the root filesystem on bugs.cps.cmich.edu is full, so dpkg-deb failed when extracting info using /tmp. Matt, I've taken the liberty to remove a couple of .glimpse_tmp files, and a 600K PS file that looked like a webbrowser's temporary file from /tmp; however this is not enough. Can you please make room? Greetings, Ray
Re: find question (and xargs)
I have come at the following but it doesn't work (and can't figger
out why not from the manpages).
find / -size +459976c -noleaf -type f -name '*.deb'|\
xargs -n 1 dpkg-split -s {} rm {}
I was thinking that {} would be replaced by the filename but that's
not the case. Anyone know how to solve this?
The {} substitution happens only in a -exec argument;
you're using it after the find command.
Try find / -size +459976c -noleaf -type f -name '*.deb' -exec \
dpkg-split -s {} rm {}
Ray
Re: beta 1.1 problems with 3c503 and the debian search system.
The search system has not responded tonight while I was searching for a solution to this problem. has not reponded is a very vague description. Can you give a better one please? another question(s): what good is an extensive mailing list archive if the search system does not work? Also, why do the debian archives seem to have so much trouble? is it growing pains or otherwise? The problem is that www.debian.org (== ftp.debian.org) is on a separate system from master.debian.org, the developers machine. www.debian.org is hosted at Central Michigan University, on a machine that - due to lack of drivers for Linux or *BSD - runs Solaris. It is maintained remotely across the atlanic by yours truely. The connection is sometimes painfully slow, and I also also have an MSc thesis to produce. In case of problems with the WWW server, I appreciate it if they are reported to me directly. Greetings, Ray
Re: Locale in 1.1?
[Please fix your return address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is incomplete] I'd like to have some info about locale handling in Debian. The /usr/lib/locale directory has just an emty dir en_GB in it. I tried to set LANG to fr_FR or ISO-8859-1 (which Linux should support) but nvi still does not display diacritic characters (I had it display them on a Slackware with ISO-8859-1). How can I correct that? AFAIK the locale support doesn't set your display font. Perhaps you need to do a setfont with one of the iso* fonts in /usr/lib/kbd/consolefonts ? Ray
Re: Problem with web site
I have a problem with the Debian web site: http://www.debian.org/ The Name, Description, and Maintainer fields of some of the packages are empty, trying to download such a package results in an Unknown URL error. However this problem is not quiet reproduceable. Last week the problem existed for all packages in the misc category, today all of them seem to be ok. But this does not mean that the effect simply vanished, the ten most recent packages on http://www.debian.org/FTP/ are still damaged. Any suggestions how to overcome this problem? There was a name translation bug in the FTP-interface, which has been fixed now. Please notice that the URLs produced are FTP-URLs; the FTP site is overflowed with requests, so please download from a mirror (see http://www.debian.org/ftp-list.html). The missing information for various entries occurs when the script that generates the pages isn't able to execute dpkg-deb; please contact me directly if this occurs. Greetings, Ray
