Re: http://www.de.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual
On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 11:57:31AM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-23 10:47]: ich sitze hinter mehreren Proxy-Servern und hinter mindestens 2 Firewalls. Ich kann deshalb nicht auf die deutschsprachigen Installationsanweisungen zugreifen. No, that's not the reason why you can't access the german language installmanual. The reason is that it is not finished yet. Could you provide him an address where he can go to help with the translation? -- James (Jay) Treacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: HowTo install X on Woody today - Please help, thanks :)
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 06:45:29PM -0700, tluxt wrote: --- James A. Treacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 01:52:59AM -0700, tluxt wrote: What is the way to properly install X (to prepare for KDE) on a Woody system today? 2. apt-get update apt-get install x-window-system Tasksel is broken under woody, I found. It won't install any X option - basic or complete. The command above does not use tasksel. The x-window-system package is simply a dummy package that depends on the packages providing X. What commands does one use to get what tasksel refers to as the most comprehensive set of packages for the X install? 'apt-cache show x-window-system' and look at the Depends line. Installing all those packages will do the same thing as (a properly working) x-window-system package will. If the packages have not yet migrated to woody, but I wish to try them anyway on woody, how can I find out myself (without being told) what packages I'd need to get from unstable to do the X install? See above. what's the/a good way to dl all those needed X packages from unstable? apt-get -d .. ?(And, how do I tell it to get from Un, not Te?) To get the packages, try: s/stable/unstable/ in /etc/apt/sources.list apt-get update apt-get install x-window-system If the x-window-system is broken, then apt-get install x-window-system-core lbxproxy libdps1-dbg \ libdps-dev libxaw7-dbg libxaw7-dev proxymngr twm xfs xfwp \ xlibmesa3-dbg xlibmesa-dev xlibosmesa3-dbg xlibosmesa-dev \ xlibs-dbg xlibs-dev xnest xprt xspecs xterm xvfb Make sure you then undo the changes to /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get update when done. This is an example of how the Debian Testing page http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/ is way behind on providing essential info about the current issues in getting a testing system up running. :( I know this is a volunteer organization. I'd like to encourage someone who is able to spend .5 or 1 hour to write a quick Installing debian testing HowTo or FAQ that would enable people to avoid having to search the lists docs for hours on end for info about how to just get a basic X system up on Woody! Volunteering? Also, is the debian-testing list broken? I sent the original message in this thread to that list, but the mailing list page http://lists.debian.org/devel.html lists no messages there later than April! :( I will send a message to the listmasters regarding this one. -- James (Jay) Treacy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HowTo install X on Woody today - Please help, thanks :)
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 01:52:59AM -0700, tluxt wrote: What is the way to properly install X (to prepare for KDE) on a Woody system today? 1. Ask on debian-user, not debian-www, as mentioned on the contact page. 2. apt-get update apt-get install x-window-system On the Woody page it says: Expected major upgrades, by the time woody releases, include . . . XFree86 4.0 Does that mean woody has _only_ X4, or both X3 X4? X Windows 4 only. We are in the process of moving from 4.0.3 to 4.1.0. It is already in unstable so should be in woody soon, if it isn't already there. Should I use tasksel, or apt-get? Up to you. If apt-get, what command would I use to find out what package name to use to apt-get X? Already mentioned above. I've seen notes on debian-x list about problems with the current X packages: new XFree86 packages may be stalled temporarily http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2001/debian-x-200108/msg00100.html ALERT: XFree86 4.1.0-3 maintainer scripts hosed; please wait for 4.1.0-4 http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2001/debian-x-200108/msg00126.html 4.1.0-4 has already been installed in unstable. Should be in testing (woody) in a few days if it isn't there yet. Also, IIRC, on the KDE list it was mentioned that the tasksel, or task packages, (like the X task?) were being currently redone in woody, and may not work properly right now. Is that correct? No idea. Ask on debian-user. If I do _not_ want to wait for it to move from unstable to testing, what do I do? wait, grab the packages from unstable, or move to unstable. Can I just dl the 4.1.0-4 deb and force it to install? How? Use dpkg -i. See man dpkg for details. Or, would I be better off getting the 4.1.0-3 instaalled? If so, how would I do that? Read the debian-x mailing list archives, or ask there. Is the tasksel program working for install of the complete X system? Should be. Ask on debian-user if you want to be sure. Wouldn't it be a great idea to put some notes about the status of the highly important packages (like X) on the Woody install page: http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/ so that people wanting to try woody wouldn't have to search through the mail lists for important info like this? Who decides what highly important is? There is a tendency to start including everyones favorite package and the whole thing become unmaintainable. Who maintains this? As volunteers we are already pressed to do all that we do. What happens when the person maintaining those pages gives up? There are tradeoffs when using free software. A company would simply tell you to wait until the official release and give you a single install option. We, on the other hand, allow users to to install work in progress and give users enough options that getting started can be somewhat daunting. Good luck. -- James (Jay) Treacy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
looking for new italian translation coordinator
The current italian translation coordinator no longer has the time. We are therefore looking for someone to replace him. Being fluent in Italian would be an asset. :) If you are interested, contact me. To keep a translation project alive requires multiple people or the interest fails. If you are willing to be a translator, you should also send in your name. Jay Treacy
Re: mailing list archives
On Mon, Nov 23, 1998 at 10:39:42PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I'm writing this, the archive on www.debian.org was last updated 35 hours ago. Actually most of the list archives were updated less than 7 hours ago. The mirror did not finish properly as the connection was reset for some reason. Since www.debian.org is mirrored right after the master pages are updated, barring problems, it is rather difficult for another site to be more up to date. Jay Treacy
Re: CD vendors
On Mon, Nov 23, 1998 at 01:55:55PM +0100, J.H.M. Dassen Ray wrote: Is there any explanation for this? Explanation for what? Why they're dead? I don't know. Why they're still listed? Because apperantly so far nobody noticed it and decided to act in the way the page suggests: Please send comments or corrections on these pages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. A urlchecker is run on the pages about once a week. Links to pages off the Debian machines are constantly going bad. Give us a chance to a) find them and b) fix them. This can take a while as many people are slow in responding to mail. Remember we're all volunteers. Jay Treacy
Re: Should Package Web page be changed for non-free (Re: glimpse on CD?)
On Mon, Oct 05, 1998 at 02:47:20PM -0700, John Lapeyre wrote: On Mon, 5 Oct 1998, Peter S Galbraith wrote: GalbraWhat I find strange if that I managed to download it without realising it Galbrawas non-free. I only *now* noticed that it's non-free by putting the Galbracursor on the `Download it!' ftp link and seeing the non-free part in the Galbrapath. I have built packages and uploaded them to main only to find later that they depend on non-free libraries that appeared free when I found them on the web page. (note that when the lib later shows up as a dependency, it is listed as non-free) . The web pages will be updated using new scripts RSN. They are 95% done. All that remains to be done is to properly deal with source packages. This is trivial to get right for 90% of the packages, but a royal pain for the rest. This problem and a number of others will be fixed with the new scripts. Jay Treacy
Need artistic type to create a Debian ad for LJ (fwd)
If you want to help Debian, but don't feel comfortable maintaining a package, this is your chance. In making enquiries to LJ about the cost of advertising, Debian was given an offer of 2 one-half page ads if we do some work on some Linux docs that the LJ is maintaining. This is an opportunity we shouldn't let pass - advertising is expensive and a good ad could really help get us the recognition we deserve. We are looking for a person, or a group of people, who are willing to work on the ad. If you can help with this in any way, please write to me, or preferably, subscribe to debian-publicity and tell us what you can do. If you have some time to do some work on the documentation (it should be a one shot deal), contact Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED] to help out. Jay Treacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
problem using staroffice 4 (fwd)
The following was sent to webmaster. Hopefully someone here on debian-user will be able to help them. Jay Treacy - Forwarded message from Phillip Neumann - From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Jun 13 07:52:08 1998 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Originating-IP: [206.48.134.101] From: Phillip Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Hi... Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 23:12:16 PDT X-UIDL: cc05ea2bfe0cf1fb480bf353a91bba19 Hi again, Im Phillip Neumann. Im sorry for email you for novices question. Actually i cant subscribe to the mail list bescause i have some problems with my ISP. Well the other email i wrote your, said that i had problems with the instalation of one program. It was StarOffice 4. I was working with glibc and today i change to the none-glibc version of debian. I could install staroffice without problems. When i read some documents, there said that Staroffice cant work with glibc, but i had also programs that requiered glibc. What can i do?? I want to work with staroffice, and with my other programs too!!. Thanks... [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - End of forwarded message from Phillip Neumann - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian GNU/Linux: Best of the Web! (fwd)
For those few of you who don't read http://slashdot.org, the Mining Co has posted their Linux Best of the Net site awards. Debian was number 1. I'd never heard of this company before, but am not adverse to any good publicity for Debian. The awards page is at http://linux.miningco.com/library/awards/blapr98.htm Three cheers for Debian. Jay Treacy P.S. There are more improvements in store for our web pages. Time is the only thing keeping them from being implemented yesterday. Stay tuned. - Forwarded message from Aron Hsiao, your Linux guide! - From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Apr 20 13:57:51 1998 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:34:49 -0600 From: Aron Hsiao, your Linux guide! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: The Mining Company X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.1.90 i586) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Debian GNU/Linux: Best of the Web! X-UIDL: 08d1a14cec76f5ff411347f37bb07283 Hello! There are good sites within the Linux community, there are great sites within the Linux community, and there are absolutely _invaluable_ sites within the Linux community. Your site has made the cut - The Mining Co., one of the most popular destinations on the Internet, is pleased to present you with our 'Best of the Net' award through our child site, Focus On Linux. The Mining Co. can be found at http://www.miningco.com; Focus On Linux can be found at http://linux.miningco.com. Of the many, many hundreds of Linux sites we index, spanning some thirty-five community-oriented site categories, a total of ten (10) sites will receive the Best of the Net award, placing your site without question in the top 1% of Linux sites on the Internet. Our Best of the Net award is given semiannually, once at the end of April and once at the end of October. Please accept this award as a thank you for an excellent contribution to the Linux community and to the open-source/free software movement. If you choose to display this award on your site, it would be appreciated if you would link the award back to us at The Mining Co. using the following (or similar) code: a href=http://linux.miningco.com;img src=bon_apr.gif width=83 height=72 alt=The Mining Co.: Focus on Linux 'Best of the Net' award. border=0/ap Or, if you prefer not to host the attached image locally: a href=http://linux.miningco.com;img src=http://linux.miningco.com/library/graphics/1998/bon_apr.gif; width=83 height=72 alt=The Mining Co.: Focus on Linux 'Best of the Net' award. border=0/ap Once again, congratulations on an excellent Linux community resource! Best Wishes, Aron Hsiao The Mining Co. Guide to Focus on Linux -- These opinions are mine and no-one else's. ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## Linux/SMP 2.1.90 used here. ## ## ### ## ## ## ## ## Linux: Choice of a GNU Generation! ## ## ## # ## ## ## ### ## ## ## ### ## ## ## ## The Mining Company digs Linux: ## ## ## ## ### ## ## http://linux.miningco.com [image/gif is not supported, skipping...] - End of forwarded message from Aron Hsiao, your Linux guide! - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fw: Design of Debian web site
For those of you who don't know, I am the current webmaster for Debian. I just heard of this thread yesterday and was going to read the debian-user archive, but won't bother as the discussion has been moved. Future replies will not go to debian-user so subscribe to debian-www if you are interested in this. Thomas Apel wrote: Concerning the topic I think the most important thing about the Debian www site is its content. Besides this it should be fast-loading and easy to use with any browser. But I also think that a good design is a nice thing AND possible without loosing the above attributes. Good design does not necessarily mean frames, tons of graphics or java animations. If you had been involved in previous discussions, you would know that the developers felt very strongly that there should be NO forms or java on the pages and that the amount of graphics should be minimized. Tables are well enough supported now that there is no problem in using them. Who is interested in what I think of might have a look at: http://www.koeln.netsurf.de/~thomas.apel/debian/index.html Although this is a pretty simple page compared to many other sites I could even imagine a more simple page without tables. The page you designed is very much along the lines I had been thinking about. Many people have been complaining (and just as many complimenting) the site. I have encouraged every person who has written complaining about the site to offer suggestions and not a single one has actually come back with anything constructive. Thank you for your effort. I have been working on getting all the mirrors set up so we can easily handle multiple languages (will be done using content negotiation). It was originally hoped that the pages would be translated by the release of 2.0. As that doesn't appear likely, it would be best to make these modifications before a major translation effort to minimize the work of the translators. Here are some points that should be addressed/discussed: Should we only redesign the top page, or modify all the pages to use frames (in particular the left margin or top frame to ease moving around the site)? My feeling is to leave the other pages as is. There should be a place for the Debian logo (do not start a discussion on the quality of the logo. This will be discussed somewhere else). Should we use style sheets? Is there any point in keeping the site index? I inherited it and have (sort of) maintained it, but don't see the point. There needs to be space at the bottom for the logo of the site sponsor. After the pages are translated, there will be links at the bottom to access the page in specific languages. This is for those who don't set up the preferred_language variable in their browser. FYI, it has been my intention to have the actual web pages generated using m4. This would allow us to have a generic header and footer (for each language) and have time stamps be generated automatically. Modifying the header or footer in the past has been a royal pain as every page had to be changed by hand. Is it necessary to have both the left frame and titlebar links? A few specific changes: We go International - Debian goes International (We doesn't work well here) Bug Tracking - Bug Tracking System Jay Treacy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: www.debian.org trouble
This happened to me when I was playing with non-IP virtual servers. Apache's root server appears to become inaccessible as soon as you add such a virtual server. I had to add a virtual server for what was originally the root server to get it to work. That you need a virtual server for the original root server is not stated explicitly, but is shown in the examples in the docs. I find Apache's treatment of servers as either the root or virtual to be a bit annoying. Virtual servers don't seem to be able to override things done in the root; sometimes I might not want to use an ErrorDocument on a virtual server for example, while I want one on the root. I think that all servers should be on equal footing. Can't this be done using per-directory options? - Jay -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Mirror ?
What do I have to do to have my make my Debian mirror an official site? I didn't find contact information about this at the web site. http://www.debian.org/mirror.html Webmaster: For some reason, there doesn't seem to be a link from the rest of the site to this page. There is, but it's buried. Guess it should get a link from the developer's page. - Jay -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
http://www.de.debian.org/doc/ (fwd)
The following was sent to webmaster. I'd appreciate it if the wonderful people on debian-user could send him a reply. - Jay - Forwarded message from Alexander Skwar - From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 13 21:17:46 1998 X-UIDL: 9bdd10ca462b95f84a3b50065b1e2d60 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-Receipt-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Disposition-Notification-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Demo Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 00:39:04 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: http://www.de.debian.org/doc/ Hello ! Is the Hercules Stingray 128/3D supported in one of the freely available XWindow Servers ? Sincerely, Alexander Skwar Wuppertal Germany -- E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check Out : http://www.digitalprojects.com PGP-KeyID : 0xA05119C7 - End of forwarded message from Alexander Skwar - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
ssh and shosts file
I am trying to use a .shosts file to allow password-less logins when using ssh. Both machines have a known_hosts file with the other machine in it (automatically set up by ssh). The machine I'd like to go to has a .shosts file which is mode 600. Yet when I use ssh to go to that machine it still asks for a password. This seems like it should be trivial to set up (I used .rhosts files many years ago and they always worked fine). Anybody have any ideas? - Jay -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Ink Jet Printers
HP 694c DeskJet Epson Stylus Color 600 These printers aren't listed as either compatible or non-compatible in the hardware compatibility HOWTO.Is anyone using either of these printers or know if they work with Debian? The HP uses HP PCL level 3 language. The Epson uses ESC/P2 language. Heh, I'm about to buy a printer too. Those are the same two I'm considering. The Epson 800 isn't enough of an improvement to warrant an extra $190 Canadian. I'll probably go with the Epson as I want to be able to do at least 600x600 in color (HP 694C can only do 600x300 color). Basically, the way printing works on non-postscript printers is you use ghostscript to interpret the postscript and convert it into something your printer can understand. Ghostscript knows both PCL 3 and ESC/P2. I haven't figured out from the docs whether support for a language means that all printers that use that language are supported. I'm sure it means that you can get at least some functionality, but are there other issues involved that may affect quality or what features you can access? One thing I read is that HP has better blacks than other brands. These new Epsons are using new inks and I'm wondering whether there is any improvement. I'm going to do some output comparison tomorrow. As with computers, it's tempting to put off buying a new printer as tomorrow's technology is so promising. - Jay -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
