Re: Debian on CD.

1997-12-31 Thread Jason and Heather
On Wed, Dec 31, 1997 at 12:12:32AM -0500, Tim Sailer wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Tim, your comments are inappropriate. Let me assure you that 
  there is no fraud at all here. 
 
 I never claimed there was. I was just stating that it was a way to 
 get a response. Obviously, it worked.

Sounds to me like there _was_ fraud. Perhaps not on the part of 
Greenbush's principles, but definitely on the part of the (ex) 
employee. Of course, to the customer who sent money and received 
nothing, there's no difference.

jason

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Telnet translation modes...

1997-12-30 Thread Jason and Heather
I'm not sure if this is a Linux problem, or common to telnet in
general. I haven't run into it until installing Debian though, so
here it is:

Telnet has two modes, linemode, and charactermode. It defaults to
linemode if the other side will handle it. This cooks some characters
and does some extra signalling. It appears that in this mode, hitting 
the Return key sends a ^M. That's normally not a problem, but I've 
found that some programs (mutt, and trn in the article selector) 
don't recognize this key, preferring ^J instead.

I have found two workarounds for this:

  - Change the bindings on the software to recognize ^M as a synonym
for ^J.
  - Manually escape to a telnet prompt after connecting and do
a 'mode char'. In this mode, hitting return sends a ^J. I can't 
put it into the .telnetrc though, since that's read up front, and 
the linemode is negotiated afterward.

I'd like to just tell telnet to use ^J all the time.

jason

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Re: hang on bootup

1997-12-29 Thread Jason and Heather

Here's the latest...

On Sun, Dec 28, 1997 at 03:06:59PM -0700, Jason and Heather wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 28, 1997 at 10:26:13AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On my system, this line results in a 10 second freeze up, and then
  Failed initialization of WD-7000 SCSI card!
 
 Thanks for the info. I don't have a SCSI card in my computer, so I'm not
 too surprised it isn't working.

That appears to be it. Someone compiled a bare-bones kernel for me
that managed to get past this problem. I don't think some of the
other options were the same though, because after booting, it gave
me:

  RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
  VFS: Mounted root (minix filesystem).
  VFS: Cannot open root device 03:41
  Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:41

It looks like it might be trying to mount the root on , but how it
got that, I don't know.

Any suggestions? If possible, I'd like to keep the standard kernel
and just tell it to skip probing for SCSI devices, since I know that's
the problem now.

jason

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hang on bootup

1997-12-28 Thread Jason and Heather
I'm trying to install Debian on my Digital P166, but it's hanging
hard right after the line:

  md driver 0.35 MAX_MD_DEV=4 MAX_REAL=8

I've found a couple other reports of this in Dejanews, but no answers
to the problem...

jason

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Re: hang on bootup

1997-12-28 Thread Jason and Heather
On Mon, Dec 29, 1997 at 01:18:41AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 28, 1997 at 03:15:38AM -0700, Jason and Heather wrote:
  I'm trying to install Debian on my Digital P166, but it's hanging
  hard right after the line:
  
md driver 0.35 MAX_MD_DEV=4 MAX_REAL=8
  
  I've found a couple other reports of this in Dejanews, but no answers
  to the problem...
 
 It's probably not the md driver which is hanging (it's fairly
 harmless hardware wise) but whatever comes after it. I don't
 know exactly what that may be, but it could be a SCSI adapter,
 network card, .. Which of these do you have? You might need to
 give parameters to the kernel to tell it their addresses etc
 to avoid hangs.

The stupid thing is, I have neither. (Even my CDROM is IDE, and now
that's not working under Windows, either.) I let it sit for half an
hour to see if it'd finally wake up, and nothing. Is there any way
to tell loadlin to throw linux into a verbose mode that might tell
me _what_ it's scanning?

This is really annoying.

jason

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Re: hang on bootup

1997-12-28 Thread Jason and Heather
On Sun, Dec 28, 1997 at 10:26:13AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On my system, this line results in a 10 second freeze up, and then
   Failed initialization of WD-7000 SCSI card!

Thanks for the info. I don't have a SCSI card in my computer, so I'm not
too surprised it isn't working.

 It then continues to boot normally.  Perhaps you didn't wait long enough.

I waited half an hour... :)

 Or, maybe you have a device that doesn't want to be probed (I solve this
 by opening the case, unplugging all the cards except for the video card,
 and then putting them back one by one until I run into the same problem).

Tried that earlier this morning, with no success. But at least now I
know. Someone has offered to compile a kernel for me that has no SCSI
drivers, and hopefully that will take care of the problem.

jason

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