Re: how do I get the you have new mail
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 12:20:13AM -0400, Jake Johnson wrote: How do I get the message to say you have new mail at the shell prompt? Is someting looking for a specific directory or file? j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org gotmail.wav Description: Wave audio
Re: How do I configure iptables to allow DNS lookups?
On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 22:02, Malcolm Ferguson wrote: I have /etc/resolv.conf containing a nameserver entry. I also have some name servers listed in the forwarders section of /etc/bind/named.conf. Is there a way to configure both bind and the normal name resolver (how does it work???) to always use the same port? Or, do I have to add a rule to the INPUT chain that ACCEPTS anything UDP from the name server? Obviously the name server isn't on the local LAN. From /etc/bind/named.conf (Debian box): // If there is a firewall between you and nameservers you want // to talk to, you might need to uncomment the query-source // directive below. Previous versions of BIND always asked // questions using port 53, but BIND 8.1 and later use an unprivileged // port by default. query-source address * port 53; This will force BIND to use 53 as the source port, as well as the destination. You can then use something like the following in your iptables script. iptables -A INPUT -s ip of first forwarder --sport 53 --dport 53 -p udp -i interface -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -s ip of second forwarder --sport 53 --dport 53 -p udp -i interface -j ACCEPT and maybe a matching set with -p tcp. That should allow responses back through the firewall, though you should be able to do the same with ESTABLISHED,RELATED. HTH, j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spamassassin and procmail
On Sun, 2003-08-03 at 18:17, Antony Gelberg wrote:
I currently use fetchmail and procmail to get and sort my mail. I'd
like to use spamassassin as well, however when I add
:0fw: spamassassin.lock
| /usr/bin/spamassassin
to my .procmailrc, it works ok, but then the mail gets delivered to
/var/mail/username, rather than following the rest of my procmail
recipes.
Use something like one of the following (first is for mbox,
second for maildirs):
:0fw: spamassassin.lock
|/usr/bin/spamassassin
/usr/home/username/mail/mailbox
or
:0fw: spamassassin.lock
|/usr/bin/spamassassin
/usr/home/username/Maildir/.Folder/
Actually, locking isn't needed with maildirs, but I forget
the correct syntax of the first line as I don't use procmail
anymore (man 5 {procmailrc,procmailex}) should give insight.
HTH,
j.
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Re: Building a mail server
My highly biased opinion in favor of qmail and friends. Comments inline: On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 14:37, Jeffrey Hartmann wrote: Requirements (mostly standard stuff): 1) maildirs - I've been told that maildirs is less CPU intensive since the MUA doesn't have to scan through huge mailbox files. I also like that one mangled message isn't going to corrupt a whole mailbox. The other option I was thinking about was Cyrus or maybe find something that stores mail in mySQL, but many people seem to talk badly about 'proprietary' mail storage formats. qmail uses Maildir exclusively. Maildir == good. 2) virtual domain support specifically I like the sendmail style virtusertable: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: user1 @domain.com:user2 vpopmail supports virtual domains and you can set catch-all accounts on the domain level. 3) imap - Cyrus or Courier seem to be the current top contenders. Courier-IMAP is used here, supports Maildir (and possibly *only* Maildir, don't remember right off-hand). 4) webmail - I like openwebmail, but it only does mbox mail spools. Squirrelmail seems to be the most popular here. I use sqwebmail, personally. It's compiled C, reads email directly from Maildirs, has calendaring, GPG support... SquirrelMail can be used also, as it just connect to an IMAP daemon (a.k.a Courier). 5) smtp auth - Sendmail had a patch/configuration option for this. pop-before-smtp is an option, however I like the smtp auth method better. It'd be nice if I could have everything behind SSL and still have it compatible with the popular windows MUAs. qmail has patches available to make it support SMTP AUTH. I use POP-before-SMTP here, personally. With this method, the end user doesn't have to do any special configuration (which may result in more phone calls to you), you just have to tell 'em to retrieve their mail before they can send (which isn't really a problem, as most POP3 clients will connect as soon as they start up). 6) pop3 - pretty standard, just needs to work. qmail comes with its own POP3 daemon, or you can use the one from Courier (like I do). Now the optional requirements. These are things I would REALLY like to see, but I could live without. So any suggestions that could get me the closest to all of these is best. 1) Server based filtering, What I'm really looking for here is the ability to sort all my mail by domain. So maindomain.com mail would end up in INBOX/, but domain1.com mail would end up in INBOX/domain1.com/. This really ties to the IMAP, as those are the folders I would be sorting into, and I'd like the filtering to happen on the server so it's already filtered no matter what MUA I'm connecting with. It could also be used for just general mail filters like filters mailing lists to different folders. Right now I color code my messages in OE so I know what mail server it came from, but I can't seem to do that in IMAP. This is easily accomplished by dot-qmail files on the server. I use .qmail-* files for filtering mailing lists into separate Maildirs here. As an example, I'm subscribed to debian-user from debian-lists at gaddis.org: # cat .qmail-debian-lists /usr/local/vpopmail/domains/gaddis.org/jeremy/Maildir/.Debian/ As you may or may not be able to tell, anything sent to debian-lists at gaddis.org gets delivered straight into the appropriate Maildir. Makes filtering wy easy, and gets rid of things like procmail. It would be nice to be able to setup the filters from the MUA, but I'm guessing thats going to be pretty rare or impossible to find. It wouldn't be too horrible to have to do it manually from a shell, as the people using this feature would be the more advanced users. Most MUAs allow you to filter client-side, but since I use different email clients depending on where I'm at (home, school, friend's house, etc.), I prefer to do it server-side. Along this line also the POP3 server shouldn't distinguish between the filtered mail and just kick it all out like a normal pop3 server. (The filter could possibly add some X- header to signify the sorting for pop users.) I don't use POP3 personally, so I can't really comment on how it handles the separate Maildirs. POP3 is running and used here, but not by me or anyone that does any server-side filtering. Most people use IMAP (it's better anyways). :) 2) virtual users. Currently everyone has thier own account on the system, and mail is delivered according to the virtusertable. I have some family members that don't really know how to use a shell account, so I'd like the ability to not have to open that account for them. I'd rather have virtual users than having to take measures to lock the account. So I would still need that virtusertable functionallity, but it would have to be able to deliver to virtual accounts as well. With the exception of myself and one other person, nobody who I host email for has a system account. Everything
Re: I'm a Bastard Operator... From Hell.
On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 00:29, Aaron wrote: What do sysadmins do if they find a user is doing something malicious and they want them gone? From a real world standpoint I can see the benefits to having such a capacity, even if my intentions are less than noble. apt-get install slay j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sqwebmail vs. squirrelmail
On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 03:18, Johnny wrote: I've been looking at sqwebmail and squirrelmail as possible candidates for setting up our webmail interface on top of qmail. Does anyone have a recommendation one way or the other? (preferably with some reasons why) sqwebmail. performance. sqwebmail is compiled c and reads messages directly from the maildirs on the disk. squirrelmail is php and requires connecting to an imap server, so there's more overhead involved with it. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: SSL on Apache
On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 13:28, Ismael Valladolid Torres wrote: Not being an SSL guru, I suggest you using apache-ssl. You will end up with two separate servers with separate config and log files, and this will help you on not messing things (not a single conflict!). Yes! Then you get to manage two separate sets of config files! Double your pleasure, double your fun. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: suggestions for a good MTA?
qmail! j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -Original Message- From: Tom Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 7:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: suggestions for a good MTA? I need some suggestions on a good MTA for a workstation. Here's what I'd like for it to be able to handle. 1. Immediate delivery of local mail (messages from daemons, etc)... in other words I'd like to avoid shipping it off to my ISP, since I'm just going to turn around and re-fetch it. No address rewriting should occur in this case, because that makes it harder to see at a glance that it was local. 2. Forward outgoing mail to a smarthost, after rewriting the addresses as appropriate. The hard part seems to be selective rewriting. Everything I've looked at seems to either want to forward everything (nullmailer), or rewrite no matter what (exim, etc.). Is there anything which can handle this? __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Ethernet = 1250000 ?
Im a little bit confused on how do you properly count in bits per second. Ex: this Ethernet = 125 Its measured as a Ethernet is this 100Mbps? How about 10Mbps Only? Bytes per second == bits per second / 8 bits per second == Bytes per second * 8 10 Mbps = 1,250,000 bytes per second. 100 Mbps = 12,500,000 bytes per second. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: web hosting setup/admin
Kevin Coyner writes:
Ultimately I think I'd like to create a small web hosting service,
complete with a control panel for each site. Can anyone suggest a good
mix of programs for this (whether debs or not)?
Obviously this is a bit of trying to provide a service for known
friends/associates and also 'learn as you go' web hosting admin.
Fortunately none of the sites are mission critical types.
I'll probably get flamed for saying this, but... qmail!
Properly set up, qmail just rocks. By itself it's not all that
great, but when you add in all the other software, you get a
helluva combination. I've got qmail + Courier-IMAP + vpopmail +
qmailadmin + vqadmin + ezmlm-idx + { a bunch of other stuff } +
SqWebMail, and it just rocks. I'm running all this on a P200
w/ 32 MB of RAM, and it performs way better than Exim + UW-IMAPD +
SquirrelMail did on a 1.2 GHz box w/ 256 MB of RAM.
j.
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RE: LWN: Ptrace vulnerability in 2.2 and 2.4 kernels
-Original Message- From: Shri Shrikumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 7:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: LWN: Ptrace vulnerability in 2.2 and 2.4 kernels Does that mean that a kernel that has module loading disabled is not vulnerable to this exploit ? According to one of the original posts on this (from Alan maybe? can't remember), there are three or four cases in which this wouldn't be exploitable. A kernel which doesn't use modules is one of those cases. The kernel on my firewall is monolithic and I was not successfully when attempting to gain root access using exploits already made public. YMMV. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks
-Original Message- From: Mark L. Kahnt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 3:28 AM To: debuser Subject: Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks A week ago, I was setting up a new box (well, new as Debian - had been Win98 and RH) and got to try the Debian boot-floppies installation for the first time in 2 1/2 years. Even after using Debian for 5 years, and knowing how I wanted to lay things out, I had to repartition the box three separate times to get something that would work with the installer - it was being insistent that the first partition prepared should be /, when I had planned to have /dev/hda1 as /boot. You can (and I do) have the first partition (/dev/hda1) mounted as /boot. I did this using the the 2.4.18-bf2.4 (or whatever) boot floppies. You do, however (as the installer explains) have to mount your root (/) partition first. Here, that's /dev/hda3. You have to mount it first, then mount your /boot, because you can't mount /boot and then mount / after that. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks
-Original Message- From: JOSEPH A NAGY JR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 5:54 PM To: LUNA Mailing List; Debian User Subject: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks I am sick and god damned fucking TIRED of all the SHIT I have to put up with just to get a system up and working. Install x to get A affect, but x won't install unless you have w, y, and z, and w, y, and z WILL NOT BE INSTALLED NO MATTER WHAT THE GODDAMNED FUCK YOU DO! You can take your peice of shit wannabe os and SUCK MY COCK. Every last one of you can fuck off. Don't bother replying on or off list. Good FUCKING BYE! FOAD K PLZ TNX BYE!!1!! j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: GnuPG on stable?
-Original Message- From: Peter Lavender [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 10:05 PM To: Travis Crump Cc: Debian User List Subject: Re: GnuPG on stable? So I add this to my sources.list file and then apt-get install gnupg? Why don't you read Installation at: http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/packages/#SECTION0008 and figure it out? j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: question about LDAP conventions
-Original Message- From: Haim Ashkenazi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 2:42 AM To: Debian User Subject: question about LDAP conventions I'm trying to learn to implement ldap in organizations, so I've read a few ldap howto's and I know how to do some basic stuff. my problem is that I don't fully understand the naming conventions (maybe due to a lack of knowledge in english...). In the default debian install there are 2 organizational units: roaming and people. could someone please explain (or direct me to some howto's) the difference between them (e.g. to where should I import my address-book)? ou=Roaming used to be used for Netscape's roaming profile support. I usually create another organizational unit (ou=users) for user accounts and put regular address book entries under the People organizational unit. There is no certain way you *HAVE* to do it, you're free to create organizational units and use them how you see fit. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Local Root Hole
-Original Message- From: Kris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 3:50 PM To: Debian List Subject: Local Root Hole xepsilon writes A local Linux security hole using ptrace has been discovered that allows a potential attacker to gain root privileges. Linux 2.2.25 has been released to correct this security hole, along with a patch for 2.4.20-pre kernels. 2.4.21 ought to contain this fix, once it is released. 2.5 is not believed to be vulnerable to this security hole. See this email from Alan Cox for details, and a patch. I am using debian kernel 2.4.18-586 Does this apply to me. If so I am a newbie and don't know exactly how to find the patch or even implement it. Please advise. Kris Yes, this affects your kernel, assuming it is the stock Debian kernel. You can either download the kernel sources, patch it, and compile a new kernel yourself, or wait for the Debian team to release an updated kernel (if they haven't already). j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Buffer overflows in Evolution/mutt
Since some of you are so nice as to point out security problems in Outlook to me, allow me to inform you all of the following: http://www.coresecurity.com/common/showdoc.php?idx=309idxseccion=10 Multiple vulnerabilities in Ximian's Evolution Mail User Agent, and Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (sorry, no URL available), mutt-1.4.1 fixes a buffer overflow. Both were posted Wednesday night to bugtraq. Please update your mail clients. Thanks, j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Check the update from Microsoft. - reporting
-Original Message- From: Alvin Oga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 2:47 AM To: Paul Johnson Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Check the update from Microsoft. - reporting - and i still like the immediate action that the incoming spam bounces back to the sender's pc and hopefully filling up their /var/spool/mail/ and if they didnt separate /var from / than the box will soon die Wow, spammers actually use their own address in the From: field? j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Check the update from Microsoft.
Got this message in my Inbox today, and it appears that it was sent to a bunch of subscribers to debian-user. It had an executable file attached, q157498.exe, which is, of course, a virus, if anyone had any doubts. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -Original Message- From: Ben van.Daalen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 10:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Check the update from Microsoft. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Check the update from Microsoft.
-Original Message- From: Hall Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Got this message in my Inbox today, and it appears that it was sent to a bunch of subscribers to debian-user. It had an executable file attached, q157498.exe, which is, of course, a virus, if anyone had any doubts. Doesn't appear to have concerned anyone... No doubt the majority on this list use Linux and are thus unaffected by any Dos or Windows virii. I read the list during the day with Eudora, on Windows, but have virus protection. If an MS-user goes without virus protection, that's their problem. Yes, and there are many who read this list on Windows-based also. Many people read it from the office where they may be forced to use Outlook or another Windows e-mail client. Then, there are those who have this holier-than-thou attitude and think they are so damn cool because they use Linux instead of Windows. I have come to refer to this as Linuxitis, it is generally limited to those who understand that Linux isn't the answer to everything and that, yes, some people do use non-Linux operating systems. The message was intended as a general heads-up to any of the others who may have received the original (off-list) message. I *do* use Outlook. I do, however, also have the appropriate measures in place to prevent virii from affecting my Windows machines. If my original message didn't concern you, great. If you think you're so much cooler because you use Linux, well, I hope you seek treatment. Good day. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Check the update from Microsoft.
-Original Message- From: Joseph A Nagy Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 5:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Check the update from Microsoft. snip It's called not letting non-subscribed persons post to the list. Then you wouldn't be able to receive mail from people like me, who are subscribed to this list from an address different than my From: address, and I know how much that would hurt your feelings. :) j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Debian and LDAP
-Original Message- From: nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 11:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Debian and LDAP It'd sure be nice if this were available as one big file suitable for printing though (e.g. plain text or PDF). *hint* :) I used to.. but it was hard to maintain. With Zope+Zwiki I have a lot more control(integrated versioning system, search engine etc). feel free to convert it to such a format if you want though :) Well, don't really have the time right now, but I may attempt to do so in the future. I assume permission granted from the author? :) j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Debian and LDAP
If you have to create your users from scratch, as opposed to migrating them, the ldapuseradd script I posted may greatly assist you in that. The script is somewhat old, so it may require a few changes to work with the newer LDAP server version (I haven't used it for quite some time, so I'm not really sure). As you may or may not have noticed, I am using Outlook. I have a directory service account set up for my local LDAP server. When I compose a new message, Outlook will query the LDAP server to find the e-mail address of the person whose name I enter into the To: field. It does this via the mail attribute. I created my initial LDAP entries by manually composing an LDIF file and importing that into the LDAP server. Here's my record in the LDAP server, from the LDIF file (some information blocked out, of course): [snip] dn: cn=Jeremy Gaddis,ou=People,dc=gaddis,dc=org cn: Jeremy Gaddis objectclass: person objectclass: organizationalPerson objectclass: inetOrgPerson facsimiletelephonenumber: +1 812 555 postaladdress: PO Box 123 streetaddress: 123 Any Street l: Mitchell st: Indiana postalcode: 47446 telephonenumber: +1 812 555 mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] givenname: Jeremy sn: Gaddis [snip] Also, if you use the right entries (which I didn't), you can also use Start - Find - People in Windows to query the LDAP server (instead of the local Contacts database) and Windows will show the person's name, address, phone numbers, etc. in the appropriate fields. I can't give you any information regarding Evolution as I don't use it, but I assume the setup is probably very similar, since Evolution aims to be an Outlook clone. HTH, j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -Original Message- From: Aaron Isotton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 8:37 AM To: Jeremy Gaddis Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Debian and LDAP On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 03:09, Jeremy Gaddis wrote: I've attached two Perl scripts which may or may not come through. One is the LDAP-aware version of useradd, the other the LDAP-aware version of passwd. If they don't come through, let me know and I'll send them privately. You don't have to create all the accounts manually, there are migration tools to help complete this task. IIRC, http://www.padl.org/ has some scripts. Well, I don't have to migrate users, I still have to create them. (It's an all new infrastructure). As for a user being a member of multiple groups, the groups go into a separate organizational unit (ou=groups, usually), and each user that is a member of this group is included under this, member: username, IIRC. HTH. j. Thank you (and all the others who answered). Your help is very appreciated. Another question: programs like Evolution and Outlook allow one use an LDAP directory as backend for Contacts. Which entries are used exactly for all that? Aaron Isotton [ http://www.isotton.com ] -- Robustness, adj.: Never having to say you're sorry. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Debian and LDAP
I've attached two Perl scripts which may or may not come through. One is the LDAP-aware version of useradd, the other the LDAP-aware version of passwd. If they don't come through, let me know and I'll send them privately. You don't have to create all the accounts manually, there are migration tools to help complete this task. IIRC, http://www.padl.org/ has some scripts. As for a user being a member of multiple groups, the groups go into a separate organizational unit (ou=groups, usually), and each user that is a member of this group is included under this, member: username, IIRC. HTH. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -Original Message- From: Aaron Isotton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 3:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Debian and LDAP Hi, I'm setting up a Debian machine with LDAP authentication (the LDAP Server runs on the Debian machine, and should be used for authentication both locally and on remote machines, but that's not the problem). The LDAP Server runs fine, and both local and remote users can authenticate from it. I'm doing this the first time, and so I run into a few problems: - How can I manage the accounts in a sensible way? useradd and the like seem not to use PAM, so I can't use them; until now I've used directory-administrator and gq to manage the accounts, but I have a strong dislike for GUI programs for such tasks. I know I can use ldapadd/ldapmodify to manage accounts, but I'm not yet good enough in LDIF to do that. Is there any useradd-like tool which uses PAM? - Using useradd etc every user has also his own group. Do I *really* have to create all of them by hand? - How do I add a user to more than one group? - I'd like to allow some users to log in on the server (via ssh, for example) and others not BUT everybody should be able to log in to the workstations (which authenticate off the server). Thus setting the shell to /bin/false is not an option. It'd be ideal if it could be done by group (ex. all users in the group it can log in on the server, the others can't). Is there any solution for this? Thanks a lot. Aaron Isotton [ http://www.isotton.com ] -- If you can't understand it, it is intuitively obvious. ldapchpasswd.pl Description: Binary data ldapuseradd.pl Description: Binary data
RE: Debian and LDAP
-Original Message- From: nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 10:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Debian and LDAP this should work for your needs: http://howto.aphroland.de/HOWTO/LDAP/ConfiguringHostBasedAccessWithLDAP Nice work Nate. It'd sure be nice if this were available as one big file suitable for printing though (e.g. plain text or PDF). *hint* :) j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Complaint
Still, there is no reason to BCC the list. Not everyone has the ability to customize what their filters filter on (I'm sure there are more then a few Evolution and OE users on the list). I'm an Outlook/pine/SquirrelMail user and instead of filtering on each client, I do the smart thing and do filtering server-side using procmail. [snip] :0: * ^Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/jeremy/mail/debian :0: * ^(List-Id|Mailing-List):.*freebsd /home/jeremy/mail/freebsd :0: * ^(List-Id|Mailing-List):.*securityfocus /home/jeremy/mail/security [snip] j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: default permissions on /root
Sorry, made a boo-boo when I wrote that. I meant to ask why were the default permissions *NOT* set to 700 on a clean install? This was discussed at length on debian-devel, IIRC. Try search the archives at http://lists.debian.org/. ahhh, i don't read debian-devel so i wasn't aware of that. i'll go look for the thread though, thanks. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: default permissions on /root
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Bob Proulx wrote: Sorry, made a boo-boo when I wrote that. I meant to ask why were the default permissions *NOT* set to 700 on a clean install? There is no sensitive files installed in /root. There really is no reason not to make it 755. Everyone knows what is in /root. It is not a secret. oh? what do i have in my /root directories then? However, if you place sensitive files there then you might choose to make that directory more restrictive. I advise putting sensitive files elsewhere, however. But it is your system and your choice. You can modify the system as you see fit. where is a more appropriate location for files only to be seen or used by the root user than his home directory? Remember that root is not a real user. You should not be using root to do nonadministrative work on the machine. Use a real user account for that. yes, i'm well aware of that. and i don't use the root account for nonadministrative work. i use it solely for administrative work, and henceforth, have files in /root not intended for the general public. i stores script under /root that are run from crontab, and various other files. i guess i wrongly assumed that a distribution that's usually somewhat sane would have somewhat sane permissions on a directory such as /root, which i consider sensitive, so to speak. *shrug* j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
default permissions on /root
Can anyone explain to me why /root has default permissions of 700 on a clean install? j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: default permissions on /root
Jeremy Gaddis said: Can anyone explain to me why /root has default permissions of 700 on a clean install? Sorry, made a boo-boo when I wrote that. I meant to ask why were the default permissions *NOT* set to 700 on a clean install? I have multiple Debian machines and just today noticed that /root has default permissions of 755. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ipchains not logging to syslog
Has anyone experienced an issue with ipchains not logging via syslog? The log info for the packets that should be logged is output to the first VT, but this is hardly convenient as the machine is put up in a closet. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:pts/0:~]$ uname -a Linux mars 2.2.23 #4 Thu Jan 23 22:15:03 EST 2003 i486 unknown [EMAIL PROTECTED]:pts/0:~]$ grep -v ^# /etc/syslog.conf *.* @192.168.0.2 Everything else gets probably logged, however, nothing appears from ipchains. The default policy for the input chain is ACCEPT, however, there are individual rules for packets that I want allowed, then there's a default catch-all at the end of the input chain which should log everything that isn't allowed. The packet logs never make it to the loghost however. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:pts/0:~]# ipchains -L input -n | head -n 1 Chain input (policy ACCEPT): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:pts/0:~]# ipchains -L input -n | tail -n 1 DENY all l- 0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0 n/a The packets are indeed being blocked (and logged to the first VT), but nothing is reported via syslog. Has anyone experienced an issue of this sorts before? Thanks, j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /etc/chatscripts/provider
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the correct way to tell my modem to do an ATM0 (shut it up) in this script? I changed the line that causes the dialout to occur to include M0. The line previously read ATDT865, it now reads ATM0DT865. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LAN Mailserver - what packages
FWIW, I've been happily using uw-imapd, exim, mailscanner, spamassassin and the f-prot virus scanner in conjunction with Outlook (97,98,2000,XP) and evolution. Haven't experienced any real problems with that setup, YMMV. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org Team: I have to setup a mail system for a small LAN of mixed Debian and Win2K clients. Currently, I have a mail system running elsewhere that I'm not really happy with: Exim and mailutils-imapd. I'm not happy with this because: mailutils-imapd balks at subfolder creation mailutils-imapd fills the / partition (the system has a very simple partitioning scheme) and stops working mailutils-imapd and Eudora works fine, but I can't get the Outlook Express 6 imap client to connect to it plus, Exim has had several major releases, and they don't make it into the Debian package stream - what's up with that? So, I tried a few things: Exim and Courier-imap with exim modified to use maildir format - I found a good reference for this setup, but I couldn't make it work - i'm not sure that the maildir format parameter for exim is the same in exim 3 as in exim 4 (the howto was for exim4), and I couldn't find it anywhere in the the exim3 docs on exim.org. Also, I think I needed to create the maildir files, but the script for creating them isn't included in these packages . . . . So I figured, what the hell, I have nothing invested in exim - I'll go with a fullblown courier install, mta and all. Well, either I did something wrong, or the Debian packages are missing some of the test-scripts included in the standard courier distribution. Also, I don't seem to be able to locate a HowTo, and I would really like to avoid plowing through the entire set of docs just to get the basics working. So, I'm looking for pointers/suggestions to: 1. A straight-forward Courier howto 2. Or a recommendation for a solution to meet the parameters below. LAN mail environment. In/Out via SMTP and a smarthost. Anti-SPAM and Anti-Virus scanning/processing options (Spam-Assassin and amavis?) would be nice, but not necessary to start. Debian and Win2K clients running Evolution and Outlook Express, respectively, accessing via IMAP so that all mail will be local to the LAN server and stored in individual homedirs. All clients have a local Unix account on the Debian server. In the past, I used SlowLaris, and either sendmail/popper (I was NOT a sendmail guru - I just knew which 3 lines to modify) or post.office (which softwar.com now OpenWave has abandoned). All help/suggestions apprciated. madmac -- Doug MacFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to reject all connections? [was: Re: IP's]
If you needed to specify the network address of all hosts, it would take the form 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0, which I believe can be written as 0.0.0.0/0 for short (please confirm this before using it). Yes, that sounds right. ipchains also accepts 0/0. I haven't used iptables, but I assume it would also support this format. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: differences between database models
LDAP is an example of a hierarchical database (upside-down tree). j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org also sprach martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003.02.17.0930 +0100]: The topic is about three different database models: the relational, the hierarchical, and lastly, the network model. Is LDAP an instance of a hierarchical database model (optimised for read-only access), or is it yet different? -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system NOTE: The pgp.net keyservers and their mirrors are broken! Get my key here: http://people.debian.org/~madduck/gpg/330c4a75.asc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: network problem: configuration/DNS? cannot access internalmachineusing our external IP
internally, my network uses the main.gaddis.org. subdomain, which doesn't exist outside of the internal network. i run nameservers on the internal side which are authoritative for main.gaddis.org. subdomain. any machine inside the network that looks up (for example) www.main.gaddis.org gets the a record from the internal nameservers, pointing at 192.168.0.x. anyone outside of my network (e.g. on the public internet) that does a lookup for the same host gets redirected to my external ip. then i have 80/tcp port-forwarded into the network to the 192.168.0.x address... if you understand that. If I understand you, your local DNS only revolves for names within your internal domain. my local dns servers are only *authoritative* for names in my internal domain. if they are unable to answer a query, they forward the dns request on to my isp's nameservers for resolution. Your solution sounds nice as it would solve another of my problems: the naming of my machine. Right now I access it using its IP. I could have changed the host file on all our local machines, but that's not really a good solution. hosts file sucks, imo. :) But it's probably faster than any other as we only have 10-20 machines, and less than 5 really need access to this server now. The DNS seems the perfect solution but I was trying to avoid it. But that seems like I can't. i've of the belief that if you have more than two or three machines, you implement dns. once set up and running, it's 100 times easier to maintain than running around and updating 20 hosts files everytime you add another host, change a hosts ip address, etc. But then I probably have to change the network config of all our machines to point to this local DNS. Am I correct? yes, but that's not much of an issue. on linux machines, you simply modify /etc/resolv.conf to point at your local dns server. on windows clients you go just into the tcp/ip properties and change the value for the dns servers. your local dns server can be configured (as mine is) to forward any requests it can't answer to another dns server (e.g. your isp). this is what i do, and it works beautifully. dns can be somewhat of a chore to get up and running for the neophyte, but once it's running, it just works(tm). hth, j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Terminal Blancking
# setterm -blank 0 j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -Original Message- From: Eduardo Rocha Costa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 11:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Terminal Blancking Hello all, Please, how do I switch off the command line blanking ?? Let me explain better, if I'm in the command line and I leave the terminal untouched, the screen becomes blank. How do I do to it not become blank ? Eduardo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] smime.p7s Description: application/pkcs7-signature
RE: Backup MX server
any mta can do that quite easily. exim comes with debian by default, why not use that? j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -Original Message- From: Ross Tsolakidis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 9:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Backup MX server Hi all, We have 2 Mail servers, one internal which is our primary and one external which hosts a lot of our clients email. The external mail server also does some backup MX work for our internal mail server and some of our clients who host their mail at their site. I want to take the Backup MX domains off our external mail server as its being loaded down heavily when our clients mail servers go down as it puts too much load on it. Is there a Debian alternative ? Basically I have a spare box here that I would like to just simply run as a backup MX service. What apps can I use. Prefferably something easy to configure.. Enter in the domain that it accepts mail and away you go, etc... Thanks. Ross. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] smime.p7s Description: application/pkcs7-signature
RE: network problem: configuration/DNS? cannot access internalmachine using our external IP
something i do that you may or may not be able to use in your situation is to have different a records for the same hostname. internally, my network uses the main.gaddis.org. subdomain, which doesn't exist outside of the internal network. i run nameservers on the internal side which are authoritative for main.gaddis.org. subdomain. any machine inside the network that looks up (for example) www.main.gaddis.org gets the a record from the internal nameservers, pointing at 192.168.0.x. anyone outside of my network (e.g. on the public internet) that does a lookup for the same host gets redirected to my external ip. then i have 80/tcp port-forwarded into the network to the 192.168.0.x address... if you understand that. ymmv, you may or may not be able to come up with something similar to use in your situation. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -Original Message- From: Jerome Lacoste (Frisurf) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 4:41 AM To: Gary Turner Cc: Debian-User Subject: Re: network problem: configuration/DNS? cannot access internalmachine using our external IP On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 20:20, Gary Turner wrote: Jerome Lacoste (Frisurf) wrote: Summary: If I try to connect to an internal server given its dyndns.org hostname, it works from the outside world, but fails if I try from within our intranet. I have this network configuration E | Internet | | (EXT-IP) ** R ** (Firewall) | (192.168.1.1) ___|___ | | | | M S M M E: external machine R: router firewall for our intranet S: internal server running Linux (in fact it runs Mandrake 9.0) M: internal machines Your gateway/router is working as designed. The internal (LAN) and external (WAN/Internet) are kept separated. This means that no WAN IP can try to connect directly with an internal address. Nor is it allowed to use a LAN IP from outside. When you try to connect to your public address from within the LAN, the name resolves to your own address. So the router sees it as an internal address trying to get in, and that's not allowed. OK. Is there a trick I can use so that I can access this machine from inside AND outside our LAN using the same name? Would be handy for CVS configuration (which for example keeps information in CVS/Root) Jerome -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE:
look for the i'm a fuckin' retard button on the toolbar. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -Original Message- From: petrovic ivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: how to copy table from word to coreldraw 10 thank you -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mysql root user password, and Debian updates
Do you have the mysql root password stored in /root/.my.cnf as detailed in /usr/share/doc/mysql-server/README.Debian? j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org I seem to have screwed up. I set a password for the root users on my mysql instance, and now apt-get seems to be unable to update that package. It fails in the configure step. I'm pretty certain that there must be a place to put this password, so that the apt-get script can use it, right? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
columbia -- what really happened
from http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2709875.stm: [snip] To test the technology the Columbia space shuttle was fitted with an embedded PC that has a 233 MHz processor, 128 MB of RAM and a solid-state 144 MB hard drive. The computer is running Red Hat, a version of the Linux operating system, and is maintaining a connection with the Goddard Space Flight Center which will try to contact the onboard PC more than 140 times over the duration of the shuttle mission STS-107. [snip] hmm, space shuttle running redhat. that explains everything. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: columbia -- what really happened
On Sun, 2 Feb 2003, Craig Dickson wrote: hmm, space shuttle running redhat. that explains everything. Even if it had been running Windows XP, a remark like that is in outrageously poor taste. oh, got that one covered too: http://www.gaddis.org/what_really_happened.jpg j. -- Jeremy Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Consensus?
-Original Message- From: Jason Pepas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 4:52 PM To: Grant Bowman; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Backup Consensus? On Sunday 26 January 2003 03:32 pm, Grant Bowman wrote: Is there a place where a general consensus has been reached on exactly what is necesary to backup a Debian system? I'm sure this has been asked and answered many times before, so I am looking for URLs to where this has been discussed in the past. for what it's worth, here's what I use to backup. --- cut backup.marsala.sh --- [snip] very nice script, just modified it a bit to suit my environment and tried it out. thanks, j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Ipsec under Linux
FreeS/WAN, http://www.freeswan.org/ Complete patching/installation/configuration directions at that site. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -Original Message- From: Francois Chenais [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:05 AM To: Debian Subject: Ipsec under Linux Hello, What is the best way to create IPSec under Debian ? François -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: boot log
Run 'dmesg', or alternatively, they may be stored in
/var/log/dmesg{.log}
j.
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From: Florian Sukup [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 10:15 AM
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Subject: boot log
Hi,
is there a log file where I can find all boot messages?
Or, if not, is there a possibility to make them written into
a log file?
Florian.
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RE: exim and relaying -- for ONE user
SMTP Authentication sounds like a prime candidate. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -Original Message- From: will trillich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: exim and relaying -- for ONE user looking for a way to accept HARDLY ANY relays -- hopefully more than just anybody from worldnet.att.net... i've got a partner who'd like to be able to send email from serensoft.com -- but he's way out in the northeast using worldnet.att.net, and i'm way out here in the midwest using podunk-isp-r-us. when he tries sending email as coming from @serensoft.com, it's accepted if it's TO another serensoft user; but for any external destination it gets bounced as a relay attempt, because of the line relay_domains = in the /etc/exim/exim.conf file. if i change it to relay_domains = worldnet.att.net then he can certainly send email from @serensoft to @out-there but then SO CAN ANYBODY ELSE using that small, tiny, insignificant worldnet.att.net network (of thousands and thousands). is there some way to further restrict the relaying? i DO NOT want any black hats turning my server into spam-o-rama. ideas welcome. -- I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0; Linux server 2.4.20-k6 #1 Mon Jan 13 23:49:14 EST 2003 i586 unknown DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #109 from Dave Thayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Puzzled about HOW TO READ COMPRESSED FILES? In /usr/share/doc there are tons of *.gz files -- they're gzipped to save space. I like to use lynx to read the stuff in /usr/share/doc/*. It handles gzip textfiles just fine and makes it easy to navigate between files. If there is HTML documentation you can follow the hyperlinks. BTW, if you install the doc-linux-html package you get the HOWTOs in hypertext. Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: pgp on Woody
[jeremy@MERCURY:pts/4:~]$ apt-cache show gnupg Package: gnupg Priority: standard Section: utils Installed-Size: 2424 Maintainer: James Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Architecture: i386 Version: 1.0.6-3 Replaces: gpg-rsa, gpg-rsaref Provides: gpg-rsa, gpg-rsaref Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.4-4), libgdbmg1, zlib1g (= 1:1.1.4), makedev (= 2.3.1-13) | devfsd Suggests: gnupg-doc Conflicts: gpg-rsa, gpg-rsaref, suidmanager ( 0.50) Filename: pool/main/g/gnupg/gnupg_1.0.6-3_i386.deb Size: 966202 MD5sum: 4834f43bc0b710182b1d98c1423fa389 Description: GNU privacy guard - a free PGP replacement. GnuPG is GNU's tool for secure communication and data storage. It can be used to encrypt data and to create digital signatures. It includes an advanced key management facility and is compliant with the proposed OpenPGP Internet standard as described in RFC2440. . GnuPG does not use use any patented algorithms so it cannot be compatible with PGP2 because it uses IDEA (which is patented worldwide) and RSA. RSA's patent expired on the 20th September 2000, and it is now included in GnuPG. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -Original Message- From: Mike M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 11:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: pgp on Woody I need to install pgp on a Woody system. I went to dselect and did a search on pgp and did not find a package. I assume pgp is not installed because man pgp has no entry, and $ find / -iname *pgp* did not turn up anything interesting. I did find a Debian package description here: http://packages.debian.org/stable/non-us/pgp.html Thanks -- Mike M. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Debian mysql config problem ...
Have you set a password for the MySQL root user? $ mysqladmin password 'your_password' After that, you should be able to login to MySQL and create other database users from there. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -Original Message- From: Kenn Murrah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Debian mysql config problem ... Greetings I've gotten my Debian distro installed and running fine EXCEPT for mysql ... try as i might, i can't seem to resolve the issue of setting up a mysql account and using phpmyadmin or webmin to administer mysql ... webmin wants a username/password, and i can't seem to satisfy it what am i overlooking here? i KNOW it has to be something simple, but i'm missing it ... all help appreciated. kwm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How do I do this in bash ??
[jeremy@MERCURY:pts/1:~]$ crontab -l 0 8 * * * /home/jeremy/bin/backupmail.sh [jeremy@MERCURY:pts/1:~]$ cat ~jeremy/bin/backupmail.sh #!/bin/bash FILENAME=/home/jeremy/backups/mail/`date -I`.tar cd ~jeremy/ /bin/tar -chf $FILENAME mail/* HTH, j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -Original Message- From: Dave Selby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 5:49 AM To: Debian Subject: How do I do this in bash ?? Hi all ... I am writting a weekly automated backup script, very simple .. tars a directory called 'myfiles' to a second hard drive. Works AOK except I want the name of the file written by tar to be the time and date. So I get a list of tared dated backups I know 'date' gives me exactly what I want but I cant figure out how to get tar to write a file with the value of date as its file name ... #! /bin/sh # Backup entire 'myfiles/' directory, name it with the date. cd /usr/local/ tar -czf /mnt/archive/autoarchive/date myfiles I put this in /etc/cron.weekly and I get a file called date !!??? I have tried '' and all to no avail Any hints ?? Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: source files
For 2.2 kernels: ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.2/ For 2.4 kernels: ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/ j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 3:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: source files Hello I try to find the source code of the kernels, I need it do compile a driver I don't know where to find it Thanks for your help Raymond -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cupsys printer
What about /dev/usb/lp0? j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -Original Message- From: thanhvunguyen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 1:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cupsys printer Check /var/log/messages to see how it is registered. You may have to unplug it from the usb port and plug it back in. Alternative: mount devfs on /dev. devfs will only create device that exist on your computer. I expect the printer would appear as /dev/printers/0 and /dev/lp0 will be a symlink to printers/0. -- Jerome Hello, this is what I get Jan 20 01:46:10 Halong kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:1f.2-1, assigned address 5 Jan 20 01:46:10 Halong kernel: printer.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 5 if 0 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04F9 pid 0x000D ... I don't know exactly where , which /dev/ etc it could be in . I don't have a /dev/printers* and /dev/lp0 is not a symlink to anything. -- ThanhVu Nguyen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: usb-scanner detected, but nothing about usb in /dev
Do you have usbdevfs enabled in your kernel? j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gaddis.org -Original Message- From: Janis Hagelberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 5:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: usb-scanner detected, but nothing about usb in /dev hi! i've just bought an epson 1660 scanner, but i can't install it because it's not detected. i've tried to figure out what the problem is, and only found more problems. i use kernel 2.4.18 here is what i found, it really looks strange: syslog: Jan 14 18:54:51 maelwen kernel: usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs Jan 14 18:54:51 maelwen kernel: usb.c: registered new driver hub Jan 14 18:54:51 maelwen kernel: uhci.c: USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v1.1 Jan 14 18:54:51 maelwen kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 9 for device 00:04.2 Jan 14 18:54:51 maelwen kernel: PCI: Sharing IRQ 9 with 00:04.3 Jan 14 18:54:51 maelwen kernel: PCI: Sharing IRQ 9 with 00:0d.0 Jan 14 18:54:51 maelwen kernel: uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xb400, IRQ 9 Jan 14 18:54:51 maelwen kernel: usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 Jan 14 18:54:51 maelwen kernel: hub.c: USB hub found Jan 14 18:54:51 maelwen kernel: hub.c: 2 ports detected Jan 14 18:54:51 maelwen kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 9 for device 00:04.3 Jan 14 18:54:51 maelwen kernel: PCI: Sharing IRQ 9 with 00:04.2 Jan 14 18:54:51 maelwen kernel: PCI: Sharing IRQ 9 with 00:0d.0 Jan 14 18:54:51 maelwen kernel: uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xb000, IRQ 9 Jan 14 18:54:51 maelwen kernel: usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2 Jan 14 18:54:51 maelwen kernel: hub.c: USB hub found Jan 14 18:54:51 maelwen kernel: hub.c: 2 ports detected Jan 14 18:54:51 maelwen kernel: usb.c: registered new driver usbscanner when i try sane-find-scanner i get: sane-find-scanner: checking /dev/usbscanner... failed to open (status 4) sane-find-scanner: checking /dev/usbscanner0... failed to open (status 4) and syslog says: Jan 14 21:39:45 maelwen kernel: scanner.c: open_scanner(0): Unable to access minor data Jan 14 21:39:45 maelwen kernel: scanner.c: open_scanner(0): Unable to access minor data and ls -l /dev/u* : crw-rw1 root root 10, 32 Jul 5 2000 /dev/usbmouse crw-rw-rw-1 root root 180, 48 Jan 14 19:14 /dev/usbscanner lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 10 Jan 14 19:14 /dev/usbscanner0 - usbscanner the last 2 devices usbscanner(0) where created by myself, using a readme in the kernel-source directory. hoping someone has an idea what to do jay -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Am I running an open relay?
From your mail server, telnet to relay-test.mail-abuse.org. It will automatically connect to your machine's port 25 and run a variety of tests to see if your machine is configured as an open relay. j. -- Jeremy Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Patrick Kirk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 8:58 AM To: debuser Subject: Am I running an open relay? My inbox has about 12 of these...does it mean I've been hacked or that the relay attempt failed? I though I had Exim locked down nicely but someone has used port 25 if I read enterprise.kirks.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (P Kirk)) correctly. -Forwarded Message- From: Mail Delivery System [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 217.35.40.123 ] Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender Date: 05 Apr 2002 05:29:06 +0100 This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim). A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unknown local-part listme%dsbl.org in domain [217.35.40.123] -- This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. -- Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from 2-057.ctame701-1.telepar.net.br ([200.193.160.57] helo=surriel.com ident=wfxnjr) by enterprise.kirks.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (P Kirk)) id 16tLLV-0003Z9-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 05 Apr 2002 05:29:05 +0100 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 4:28:14 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Open Relay Test Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DSBL LISTME: smtp 6839cgD6QvH1tqiQODyEuQGHn9TFZAdi MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DSBL END This message is a test of your mail server to determine if it will perform relaying (re-sending) of e-mail messages for unauthorized outside parties. This capability, if enabled in your mail server, is widely considered to be serious flaw in mail server security. Your mail server is being tested for relaying capability because we have received mail from it and wish to determine its likelihood to be abused by spammers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: uw-imap to courier-imap
On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Rikard Florin wrote: I whish to move from uw-imap to courier-imap, i've read about it's better performance using maildirs etc and it all sounds good. although, i'm a bit unsure about the amounts of work involved in converting... [snip] The http://www.qmail.org/ page has quite a bit of stuff on it for converting from mbox to maildir fairly easily. I've used a few of 'em before, although I don't recall which off the bat as it was a one-time thing. HTH. j. -- Jeremy Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim: sending to intranet recipients
On Mon, 25 Mar 2002, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote: I have mail delivered via a smarthost (mail.com). I have a couple of people aliases through this account. There is only one email address: I'm gonna venture a guess that you have your local mail server configured so that it accepts all mail for mail.com and attempts to deliver it locally. It tries to deliver it, finds no user account named robert.last, so it bounces it. Reconfigure your MTA so that it doesn't think that it is the mail server for mail.com. j. -- Jeremy Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cdda2wav or cdparanoia ?
On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote: Cdparanoia suggests using the SCSI-over-IDE functionality in the kernel to improve its performance, but I find that it works quite well with the plain IDE driver even in the 2.2 kernel. Would you then use LAME to convert to MP3? gogo! -- Jeremy Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail server for local lan
On Fri, 15 Mar 2002, Harry Putnam wrote: The things I'm really unsure about are: 1) What daeman do I need to have running (pop3d Imapd...). I intend to have other household machines retreive via pop3 from this server. Although I prefer IMAP, you can use any POP3 daemon that you like. There are many Debian packages which provide POP3 daemons, apt-cache search pop3 will list some of them. 2) Do other machine users really have to have accounts on debian box? or just a mailbox at /var/mail? It all depends on how you set it up. I create local user accounts for each user, although logging in is disabled. 3) If I have a daemon running, is it possible to setup so that it only runs when a machine connects. You can run either POP3 or IMAP daemons from inetd (or tcpserver, etc.) inetd will bind to the port and the actual daemon itself won't be running. When a client connect, inetd will invoke the daemon and the daemon will handle it from there. 4) How can I bar any machines that are not 192.xxx.xxx from the 143/110 port. If you're using inetd, you have two lines of defense. The first line of defense is Linux's built-in packet filter, which you can easily tell to not allow anything for those ports from anywhere except your network. Your second line of defense is tcp wrappers (man tcpd, man 5 hosts_access). 5) what do I have to tell exim in order for it to know to send the other machines outgoing mail to my isp smart_host. From exim.conf: # Send all mail to a smarthost smarthost: driver = domainlist transport = remote_smtp route_list = * mail.home.lan bydns_a end Replace mail.home.lan with your ISP's mail server's hostname. 6) can all this be made invisible to the internet, so that a scan will not show 143/110 as running or open? Your firewall can invisibly drop packets to either of those ports. I am behind a hardware firewall already (Netgear FR314) which I think will hide the open ports from the internet. but still want to make all precautions. And know how to setup so that only my network machines get access. Using tcp wrappers in conjunction with a packet filtering firewall, you should have no problems. Besides, you said you already have a hardware firewall in between your network and the public Internet. HTH. j. -- Jeremy Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I don't want sshd
On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Alec wrote: On one of my Debian boxes, I need ssh, but no sshd. I especially don't want to RUN sshd. I achieve this by stopping the daemon and removing all symlinks to /etc/init.d/ssh in /etc/rc?.d/. However, every time ssh package gets upgraded, I get those symlinks back and sshd restarted. To me, it is a security concern, since unintended net services are run. Wouldn't it be better to break ssh and sshd into two separate packages? Right know, at least in Woody, sshd is part of ssh. # dpkg-reconfigure -plow ssh Answer the questions it asks, and answer no, of course, when it asks if you want to run sshd. sshd won't be run by default, and that should maintain across upgrades. j. -- Jeremy Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: W32/Myparty
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, csj wrote: On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 21:06:52 -0500 Jeremy Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary, I also run Free Agent, though just for the newsgroups. My MUA of choice is Outlook (no flames please, I'm tired of them) and I have actually never had any problems with it. I do virus scanning on the mail gateway, before it even gets to reaching Outlook and by disabling a majority of attachments (.doc, .vbs, etc.) it isn't too much to worry about. Wouldn't it be nicer if you didn't have to scan email? Email viruses shouldn't exist in the first place. They're a totally unnecessary evil (unlike trojan horses and boot-sector viruses), Sure. And wouldn't it be nice if none of us had to lock our doors, put bars over our windows, or install burglar alarms on our homes? In a perfect world... This isn't a perfect world. You are obviously content with your mail setup, I'm content with mine. Deal with it. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: W32/Myparty
On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, ben wrote: where did you extract from any part of my post to the list that i welcome replies to my address? post it to the list, or not at all. unless someone indicates that they want you to cc: to their address, have some manners--don't do it. especially, now that you know that i do not want you to cc: to may address, don't do it again. How's this you fucking bitch? j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: W32/Myparty
Gary, I also run Free Agent, though just for the newsgroups. My MUA of choice is Outlook (no flames please, I'm tired of them) and I have actually never had any problems with it. I do virus scanning on the mail gateway, before it even gets to reaching Outlook and by disabling a majority of attachments (.doc, .vbs, etc.) it isn't too much to worry about. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Gary Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 11:20 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: W32/Myparty On Fri, 01 Feb 2002 09:18:44 +0100, Chris Mueller wrote: At 00:11 -0500 01.02.2002, Jeremy L. Gaddis wrote: Are you saying that when I decide to read the debian-* lists I'm subscribed to, I should close Outlook, ... For your own advantage you should close Outlook - for ever. And switch to Eudora. Under Win oder Mac. Since Eudora is a separate programm and not so closely connected to the WinOS, viruses can' get active that easily, e.g. vbs-attachments. ... May I suggest Forte' Agent for mail on a Win box? It is text based, will let you inspect attachments/html in raw form, and will warn and query you should you try to open an executable. I've been using it for 2 years now and if there is a reason not to, I haven't run into it. You can download a free version called Free Agent. I think the news reader is crippled on the free version. I don't know if it runs ads. My mail will have to come through a Win machine for a while yet, so Agent is my protection against hostile email. I tried Eudora, but, for some reason I can't recall, it didn't thrill me. Yes I fear I am living beyond my mental means--Nash -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: sound card kernel module problems (Deb 2.2)
Of course, you just expect us to sit here guessing at what type of sound card you have, right? http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Simon Harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:05 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: sound card kernel module problems (Deb 2.2) howdy, the problem that i have is i have a sound card and i would like to know what kernal module(s) to install to make it work (so the sounds in gnome work properly). when i was installing debian i used a menu that gave the module name and a description of the module, i managed to use that to chose a module that installed itself but it didnt work. i would like to know how to re-run the 'module selector' so i can try other modules to get it working properly. [any other methods would be kindly appreciated] thanks simon Is your boss reading your email? Probably Keep your messages private by using Lycos Mail. Sign up today at http://mail.lycos.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: W32/Myparty
I used to use Eudora as my main MUA, but I find that Outlook
meets my needs better. Outlook isn't *just* an MUA, it also
has a calendar, a task scheduler, a journal, etc. (all of which
I use, actually). Since I'm going to use Outlook for these functions
anyways, I figure I might as well use it for e-mail.
Viruses aren't a problem as I like to think I have a bit more
common sense than the average Outlook user. You might notice the
X-Scanner: header in my e-mail messages. All incoming and outgoing
mails are scanned for virii on the mail server and I also run a virus
scanner on my desktop (McAfee/NAI on the server, Trend Micro on my
desktops).
BTW, each message I send out is copied to a folder on my IMAP store,
so resending a message is not a problem for me (if I need to do so,
which isn't often).
Anyways, I think we can call an end to this MUA war (which seems to
start back up every couple of weeks or so). You use what you like,
I'll do the same, and we'll be happy campers.
j.
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-Original Message-
From: Chris Mueller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 3:19 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: Jeremy L. Gaddis
Subject: RE: W32/Myparty
At 00:11 -0500 01.02.2002, Jeremy L. Gaddis wrote:
Are you saying that when I decide to read the debian-* lists
I'm subscribed to, I should close Outlook, SSH to the mail
server and read them using {elm|mutt|pine|other_mda}? Like
anything else, it comes down to what you like best and what
does the job well. I run Linux on my servers because it does
the job better. On the same note, I run Windows on my desktop
machines because, at this time, Linux, IMO, sucks ass as far
as desktops go.
For your own advantage
you should close Outlook - for ever.
And switch to Eudora.
Under Win oder Mac.
Since Eudora is a separate programm
and not so closely connected to the WinOS,
viruses can' get active that easily,
e.g. vbs-attachments.
I never understood
why people use such a complicated email client
when there is a much more handy alternative like Eudora.
Example:
You want to send a mail to a person you mailed before.
In Eudora
you klick send again
and change the relevant message text.
Everything else remains:
- to, from
- beginning and end of body
- sig
In Outlook you do not have a command like that.
The people who programmed Outlook
should be condammed to use it for livetime.
;-)
Chris
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RE: W32/Myparty
You're a fucking arrogant bastard, you know that? j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Paul 'Baloo' Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 6:38 PM To: Craig Dickson Cc: debian-user list Subject: Re: W32/Myparty On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Craig Dickson wrote: Viruses aren't a problem as I like to think I have a bit more common sense than the average Outlook user. I expect at least 90% of Outlook users think the same of themselves. Having to do tech support on that godforsaken product has taught me that *all* Outlook users think they're smarter than the average user. Of course, half of them asked me how to right-click, but that didn't stop them from insisting they weren't a moron. -- Baloo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Freeware Email Scanner..
I am using Exim + Exiscan + McAfee/NAI's Virus Scanner for Linux. Works nice and was relatively easy to configure. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Petre Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 2:52 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Freeware Email Scanner.. i have looked in the list archives but couldn't find an adecvate virus scanner for me. i need a virus scanner for my main mail server.that is a scanner for windows viruses... if anyone knows any free software powerful enough to detect and block most common viruses and trojans please let me know.. thank you Petre L. Daniel,System Administrator, Canad Systems Pitesti SRL Romania http://www.cyber.ro email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel:+4048206200,+4048206201 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Limiting admin privileges
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, allen wayne best just ramblin in his amx wrote: robert: for what it is worth, the drives that i have mounted on my machine via nfs cannot be changed via root. root is an unpriviledged user so far as the nfs mounted files are concerned. my normal user can only change files which the user has access to. same for root. these files are exported from an hp-ux machine. in order for root to have priviledged access on my machine, the exporting machine has to explicitly set the privileges. for more information on this refer to man exports under User ID Mapping If the user has physical access to the Linux machines, however, root access is trivial. If you have root access and mount drives using NFS, access to other user's files is also trivial. On an NFS volume, root cannot (assuming root_squash) write to files. root can, however, su to any user s/he chooses and then gains write access to all of that user's files. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to capture start up messages?
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Stan Brown wrote: I need to be able to capture the start up messages issued when my woody system boots. dmesg only gives me up to the point control is transfered from the kernel, and I'm seeing erros after that, that flash by to quickly to read. How can I do this? $ less /var/log/dmesg j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: creating an ISO image of a cd.
On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, Titus Barik wrote: I'm trying to make an ISO image of a Windows 98 Second Edition CD. I've done this before in Windows, but not in Linux. I wasn't sure how to make an ISO, so I tried: cat /dev/cdrom /tmp/cd.iso `mkisofs` is your friend. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sendmail newbie question
On the machine you want to be the mail hub, configure it to accept mail for your (local) domain. On the other machines, tell them to send all local mail to the mail hub for delivery and to use it as a smart host also. A quick example is in order, me thinks. I have three Linux machines here along with various flavors of Windows. hurricane is the (internal) mail server (i.e. no direct Internet connection). The two other Linux machines, kerberos and earthquake are set to send all local mail to hurricane, e.g.: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:pts/0:~]$ grep ^DH /etc/mail/sendmail.cf DHhurricane.home.lan The three Linux machines pass off any mail to hurricane, where it is stored. hurricane uses kerberos as a smart host, since it's the only machine directly connected to the Internet, e.g.: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:pts/0:~]$ grep ^DS /etc/mail/sendmail.cf DSkerberos.home.lan kerberos then uses my ISP's mail server as it's smart host, and lets it deal with the task of getting the mail to its final destination, e.g.: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:pts/0:~]$ grep ^DS /etc/mail/sendmail.cf DSmoseisley.blueriver.net To illustrate this a bit, all my e-mail is stored on my ISP's mail server. When I dialup (on kerberos, the machine with the modem), fetchmail is started and grabs my mail roughly every 300 seconds. fetchmail hands it off to sendmail on kerberos which has been told to send all local e-mail to hurricane for delivery. kerberos then contacts hurricane and gives it the message, which is then passed to procmail which filters it and puts it into its appropriate place under /home/jeremy/Mail/. When I'm done typing this message and hit Send, the machine I'm sitting at tremor will send it to hurricane (my internal mail server, remember?) which will see that it's a non-local email and pass it off to kerberos, who in turn, will give it to my ISP. (Take a look at the mail headers.) See, easy? :) This keeps all the e-mail centralized in one place. As far as reading e-mail goes, I use a variety of clients depending on where I'm at. If I'm here at home, it's usually Outlook. If I'm logged into the mail server itself, I'll use mutt. If I'm on one of the other Linux machines, I'll use Pine (configured for IMAP). If I'm somewhere else, I can use one of the webmail systems I have set up. To summarize, keep all your e-mail situated on one server and use mail clients that support IMAP. Store your e-mail on the server instead of the client, and your life will be lots easier. This ended up longer than I expected, but hopefully it'll help you out. It's not hard to set up, but when it is, it makes your life alot easier. :) j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jay Latham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 1:36 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Sendmail newbie question I have three computers in my home. I use one as a router to masq the other two to the internet. I would also like to use this one as the mail hub. There is only one user for the three boxes. What I would like to do is to be able to read my mail from any box but still save it on the hub. So that if I want to refer to a saved msg from a different box I can get to it. The router is running debian 2.2r3 using fetchmail-sendmail-procmail-mutt to deal with mail. The way it is currently set up I have to read and send all mail from this box. The other 2 boxes are using progeny-debian. I went this route primarily because of the ease of X configuration with progeny. They also have the same mail pkgs installed. So, my question is, how can I set the network up to be able to send/read mail from any box but store all mail on the hub? Thanks, Jay Latham Beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy! Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Adding a user to a group
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Martin F. Krafft wrote: i am sure that there are command-line utilities to do that, but then again, /etc/group is so old and so standard that you can safely do this by hand without violating some debian policy or philosophy, right? That's basically what adduser username groupname does, but by using adduser, you have a record of it in the system logs. That's not really an issue for your average home user, but for those of us who keep logs indefinitely and need a record of such changes, it helps. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SSH
Nick,
It's probably not what you wanna hear, but why not go for
something like NIS or LDAP? My ISP has scripts that automatically
copy over /etc/{passwd,shadow,etc.} as they're updated on the
main machine, but this occasionally breaks and screws everything
up. I've never played with NIS, but I have all authentication for
the Windows and Linux boxes here going through LDAP and it really
kicks ass. I can administer users and groups either in the browser
(using PHP and HTTPS) or using an LDAP client on my desktop (NT) box.
pam_LDAP and OpenLDAP weren't that hard to get working together,
and once it is, it kicks ass.
j.
--
Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Vineet Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 3:18 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: SSH
* Nick Furman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010707 12:35]:
I have a quick question regarding the secure server package and scp.
I prefer not to use NIS to share the password file between two servers
so
I wrote a script to push /etc/passwd to another server so they both
have
duplicate copies when a user is added onto our system.
Of course I am using scp to move the file over, but everytime a user
is
added, it asks for the root user's password on the remote server. Is
there a way using .rhosts to disable the remote server from asking me
for
a password so it just pushes /etc/passwd over, no questions asked?
Thanks!
Nick
Martin gives good advice, but if you want to do this via a script and
without a password required, you could set up something like the
following:
create a new RSA key with no passphrase. On the remote machine, add a
line something like this to /root/.ssh/authorized_keys2:
from=othermachine,commands=script to add info to system
files,no-port-forwarding,no-agent-forwarding,no-pty ssh-rsa the key
(Sorry, that's long because it needs to be all one line in the file).
The point is that you can create a key that will be accepted with no
passphrase restricted to connections from a certain host and forced to
perform a specific action. Also ensure that you have in
/etc/ssh/sshd_config:
PermitRootLogin forced-commands-only
Please, please, please understand what you're doing and gauge whether
your systems are secure enough and that this is acceptable risk.
Vineet
RE: NFS alternative
Two possible suggestions: - tunnel the NFS traffic over an SSH traffic (similar to remote X sessions) - or set up a VPN j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Timo \Blazko\ Boewing [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 9:34 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: NFS alternative Hello everyone! Currently, I am using ssh/scp and NFS for syncing data between my woody desk and my FreeBSD thing. My question: is there a distributed fs that combines the advantages of both techs? as there are: NFS: mountable (more via combining with other things?) SCP: quite secure, may compress and crypt data What I want to have is a sys that allows me to mount a remote fs but having data compression and encryption enabled. -- Any ideas how to give NFS the features scp has (tunneling?) ? -- Any comments on or ideas for existing alternatives (heard something of CodaFS etc.) Thanx for a future discussion, greetz, Timo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NFS related error; do I need NFS?
On Sat, 14 Jul 2001, Gladimir wrote: 1) Do I need NFS on this linux machine? The general rule is if (a) you don't know what a service is, or (b) you don't know if you need it, you probably don't. If you did need it, you'd know. Disable rpc.statd, rpc.nfsd, portmap(per), and any other RPC-related daemons that might be running. Running unneeded rpc.* services has caused more than one machine to get compromised. 2a) If so, how do I make this error go away? Uninstall the package that provides rpc.statd. 2b) If not, what is the process for removing the nfs-common scripts from the system initialization? Remove the packages that provide rpc.statd, rpc.mountd, portmap, and the other RPC services that are installed. I don't recall the package names right off-hand, but it's nothing that `dpkg --status filename` won't tell you. HTH. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 3com NIC question
It's been awhile, but I'm thinking something like ftp://ftp.3com.com/pub/nic/3c5x9/3c5x9cfg.exe. Go to the FTP site and browse around, you'll find it. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Cameron Matheson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 7:27 PM To: Joost Kooij Cc: Alan Shutko; debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: 3com NIC question On 12 Jul 2001 17:25:42 +0200, Joost Kooij wrote: To 3com's credit, they did offer a utility that allowed one to disable the madn^H^H^H^Hplug-n-play. Really? Do you know where I can get that? Cameron Matheson _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new to debian have questions
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 02:20:26PM -0400, Brian Nelson wrote: Why would you be suspicious? I happen to like Outlook, and Because this is a debian-user list, and if you're using Outlook, you're obviously not using debian. Really? I bet that'd be a surprise to the two Debian machines this email will pass through before it even makes it out of my home. Oh wait, look at the message headers. I'm using mutt! On Debian! Imagine that! Of course, I could have Outlook running under wine/win4lin/etc. (I don't) or could even be running NT under VMware (I'm not) or I could be VNC'd to my NT box running Outlook from there (I don't do that either). I use Linux all the time, every day. That doesn't mean I have to run it on my desktop. Well, he said dselect was an essential tool for package management, and you replied that dselect didn't do anything apt and dpkg couldn't do. Of course I did. Since installing these machines, I haven't fired up dselect once. It's not like I fuck with these machines all the time anyways. I use Linux as a server, not a desktop. Servers, IMO, shouldn't be messed with all the time. I install the base system, install the daemons and packages I need, and leave 'em be. Hell, I probably haven't even installed a package (not counting security updates) in three or four months. Why fire up dselect when a simple wget/dpkg -i combination will suffice? Why don't you worry about yourself instead of worrying about me? I'm a big boy, I'll look out for myself. All for letting the thread die... j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: sendmail gethostbyaddr fails
Can you resolve 192.168.1.45 into a fully qualified domain name? j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Mike Pfleger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 1:17 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: sendmail gethostbyaddr fails Hello. I am getting a slew of entries in /var/log/mail/mail.warn that look like this: Jul 13 10:20:01 BananaSlug sm-msp-queue[1116]: gethostbyaddr(192.168.1.45) failed: 1 Jul 13 10:30:01 BananaSlug sm-msp-queue[1150]: gethostbyaddr(192.168.1.45) failed: 1 Jul 13 10:40:01 BananaSlug sm-msp-queue[1175]: gethostbyaddr(192.168.1.45) failed: 1 Jul 13 10:50:02 BananaSlug sm-msp-queue[1206]: gethostbyaddr(192.168.1.45) failed: 1 Jul 13 11:00:02 BananaSlug sm-msp-queue[1244]: gethostbyaddr(192.168.1.45) failed: 1 Jul 13 11:10:02 BananaSlug sm-msp-queue[1268]: gethostbyaddr(192.168.1.45) failed: 1 They happen every 10 mins, which is the polling interval for the sendmail daemon. Has anyone seen this? Is this a misconfigured sendmail thing, or is there some DHCP issue here? An interesting note is that the address seems to increment by one with each reboot. I shut off every night to let some of the heat dissipate from my apartment, and to allow me to sleep w/o the roar of the fans... Thanks in advance, Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: sendmail gethostbyaddr fails
Either set up a DNS server for your local network or add some entries to /etc/hosts. sendmail likes to be able to resolve its IP address into an FQDN and will bitch if it can't. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Mike Pfleger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 1:41 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: sendmail gethostbyaddr fails On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 01:32:35PM -0500, Jeremy Gaddis wrote: Can you resolve 192.168.1.45 into a fully qualified domain name? Errr... excuse the cluelessness, but how would you recommend doing that? I don't run local DNS, and the DNS entries in /etc/resolv.conf point to my ISPs nameservers on the other side of my firewall. Is this a problem because my firewall assigns IP addresses to the workstations on my LAN via DHCP? I'm still learning lots of things about networking... TIA, Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Unable to delete file
Try running lsattr /usr/share/doc/tk8.2/copyright and see if the file has the immutable bit set. If it does, chattr -i will remove it. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kelly Corbin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 4:18 PM To: Debian Userslist Subject: Unable to delete file I'm trying to upgrade to the unstable release and have hit a major snag. Doing an 'apt-get dist-upgrade' fails with the following message: Unable to update link /usr/share/doc/tk8.2/copyright : Operation not permitted I've tried to delete/chmod/chown it as root to no avail; I still get the 'Operation not permitted'. It's a freakin' copyright file! How is that possible? I thought running fsck would help, but it didn't. Any ideas? I'm completely stuck now and I've never seen anything like this before. Kelly -- -- Kelly Corbin -- Systems Administrator -- -- http://www.theiqgroup.com -- The Future of eServices... -- -- The IQ Group, Inc. -- 6740 Antioch Suite 110 -- Merriam, KS 66204 -- (913)-722-6700 x105 -- Fax (913)722-7264 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: sysadmin won't allow linux - PLEASE HELP
FWIW, sendmail can only run in non-daemon mode. It can be invoked locally by other applications when needed, but doesn't need to run as a daemon and bind to port 25/TCP. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: D-Man [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 10:06 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: sysadmin won't allow linux - PLEASE HELP On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 01:51:03AM +0300, Haim Ashkenazi wrote: | 4. disable exim/postfix/sendmail. this will mean that you won't be able |to send mail locally (some applications like mutt rely on local MTA |to send their mail). If you use ssmtp instead of exim/other_complete_MTA you can still send mail out, but that is all ssmtp does. It is not a deamon either, it runs when it is called then terminates. I use it on my cygwin (win2k) box at work so I can use mutt. -D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 3com NIC question
FWIW, there is a Linux version of 3Com's utility for the 3c5x9 series of cards. Hell, it's even packaged for Debian. I believe the package name is 3c5x9utils or similar. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Steve Witt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 5:34 PM To: Sunny Dubey Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: 3com NIC question On Wed, 11 Jul 2001, Sunny Dubey wrote: hey, I have a 3c509 NIC. I tried getting an IP for this NIC by using DHCP. (I used dhcpcd) But for some odd reason, it wouldn't work, and so I stfw'ed. (searched the fucking web). looking at various mailing lists, i found that I wasn't the only one with the same problem, the common solution was to disable PNP, and try again. I followed the steps as show, with no luck in the end. I tried both linux-2.4.6, linux-2.2.19pre17 (The one with potatoe) and various dhcp clients (dhcpcd, pump, etc) and none have worked. But today, on the same box I tried installing openbsd, and I found that DHCP worked right out of the install. This made me wonder once again why it doesn't work under linux. Does anyone have any insight on why this happens only in linux? (I tried under windows, and it works there too) I'm not sure if your problem is with the NIC or with DHCP. Can you assign a fixed address to the NIC (in /etc/network/interfaces) and get it to work? If so then I don't think there is anything wrong with the card or driver. I've used a lot of these NICs and the only problem I had was with Plug and Play. The solution was to get a drivers disk from 3Com and run the configuration utility (boot with a DOS floppy), turn off plug and play in the card and set the IRQ and address range you want for the card. If the IRQ/address are one of the common ones (like IRQ 10, address 0x300), the driver will find it and go from there. There may even be a linux version of this 3Com configuration utility, though I've never used it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: new to debian have questions
I use Outlook because I find it to be better than any piece of shit MUA that I can run on Linux. I happen to find Linux rather lacking when it comes to the desktop arena and when I actually have to do work instead of playing, I need something that works. Windows NT (and Outlook, when it comes to e-mail) happen to fit that bill quite well. For my servers, yes, they're all running Debian. On the desktop, though, I need *real* applications that allow me to actually accomplish things. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Brian Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 8:17 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: new to debian have questions On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 04:46:04PM -0500, Jeremy Gaddis wrote: FWIW, I absolutely loathe dselect. I'm sure it's probably improved with the last few releases of Debian, but it used to be a royal PITA. The only time I use dselect is during the initial installation just because it starts up automatically. I immediately exit dselect, let the system reboot, then install what I want to using apt-get. I've yet to find that there was anything I needed to do that *required* that I fire up dselect. apt-get and dpkg work just fine for me. Does it come as any surprise that this comes from someone that uses MS Outlook as their MTA? -- Brian Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: new to debian have questions
Allow me to expand a little bit. I don't have the time to sift through every mail client listed on SourceForge/FreshMeat/etc. to find one I like. I've used Outlook for years, I like it, it works for me(tm). If you don't like it, don't use it. I promise you won't hurt my feelings. You don't see me sending HTML messages to the list, getting viruses, etc. You use your MUA, I'll use mine, but don't attack me because I prefer a different one than you. That's too bad I'm not ready for UNIX yet. Especially since I've been using UNIX since '95. UNIX, as a server platform, is fine for me. As a desktop platform, it's still gonna be awhile. FWIW, Outlook isn't the only mail client I use. It all depends on where I'm at. If I'm sitting at home, it's Outlook, at work it's Lotus Notes (don't even get me started on Notes), and anywhere else I SSH in and either use Pine or mutt. Anyways, you use whatever you want and I'll continue to use Outlook. As long as I'm not sending you HTML email messages, you really shouldn't have anything to bitch about, no? j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Joost Kooij [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 5:38 AM To: Jeremy Gaddis Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: new to debian have questions On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 02:01:30AM -0500, Jeremy Gaddis wrote: I use Outlook because I find it to be better than any piece of shit MUA that I can run on Linux. I happen to find Linux rather lacking when it comes to the desktop arena and when I actually have to do work instead of playing, I need something that works. Windows NT (and Outlook, when it comes to e-mail) happen to fit that bill quite well. Maybe unix is just not the right thing for you (yet). No offense intended. On unix, if you say that your mua is a piece of shit, it means that you are saying that you are a piece of shit, because you haven't: - read the manual page, which explains why it should do as it does; - read the source code, which explains why it doesn't as it should; - figured out how to configure it to not act as apiece of shit, but instead make coffee, slice bread and do the washing up for you; - written a patch that makes it do your The Right Thing(tm) by default; - forked it to use the much cooler foo widget library instead; - created a dedicational website, that advocates all its limitations as clueful, innovative or standard features; - tried some of the 500 mailer apps available for linux, some of which already do all the above (on the internet, there's always three other nutcases exactly like you). For my servers, yes, they're all running Debian. Seriously, consider learning how to use dselect, if these servers represent any economic value. On the desktop, though, I need *real* applications that allow me to actually accomplish things. I consider sed and awk applications that allow me to accomplish things. Other people say microsoft word is an application that allows them to accomplish things. Likely, they're trying to accomplish different things than I am. The only question is, what are all the people, who think that they need to fire up microsoft word if they want to send an email, trying to accomplish? It reminds me of the times when I could surprise people by showing that their computer could actually do something else than just run wordperfect 5.1 from autoexec.bat (I stopped trying to explain that part pretty quickly). My favorite example of stereotypically clueless requirements for real applications is where daft management types would argue to me that excel is such a great tool and how one can do everything using excel. So I would be nice to them and send them data in comma seperated values format, thinking that they would be able to import it, being excel wizards as they suggested they were. Though luck. It didn't have the right filename extension, so they couldn't doubleclick on it in outlook. So I help them to save it in the menu and then rename the file (bedazzled looks on their faces). Then I tell them now just import it in excel. Even more blank staring. As I show them how it is done, I notice that their attention span lasts only half the way. Silently, I remind myself to stay away from these people better in the future. Oh, and then there is the time when I played a little with staroffice, to see how well it would handle compatibility issues (very well). So I sent some notably clueless people an excel file. Instead of being happy for it, that they could doubleclick instead of having to think, they actually came complaining, that the data was no good, because it had the wrong font face. Nowadays, I just give a blank stare back and start mumbling about how great an application awk is and has been for the past twenty years. Then I try to start an argument on the relative merits of regular expressions versus file globs. They are long gone when I finish the first sentence. Serve
RE: MTA choice
If you're familiar with sendmail, why not stick with it? I've used it for years and continue to do so for the simple fact that I haven't the time to figure out how to do everything using [qmail|Exim|Postfix| other MTA]. If you *do* have the time to learn a new MTA, knock yourself out. Exim is Debian's default, qmail is probably the most secure, and I've heard good things about Postfix. Flip a quarter or something, knock yourself out. :) j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Paul Tansom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 5:56 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: MTA choice I'm just about to start configuring a mail server with IMAP support on a new Debain 2.2r3 install. Does anyone have any views on the best MTA - no flame wars please ;-) I was looking to install Postfix with Cyrus for IMAP support. I need to check up on the folder and sub folder handling of the IMAP side of things, but having noticed that Exim is installed by default with Debian I thought I'd re-evaluate my choices. I've only really used Sendmail so far. Had a brief look at Qmail and didn't like the way you configured aliases much. Anyone got any comments? --- Paul Tansom:Talking to penguins can be inTUXicating, whereas talking to windows is only 1 step away from talking to the wall! --- Smoothwall firewall/router project: http://www.smoothwall.org/ Smoothwall project community contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: new to debian have questions
If I had the bandwidth to run VNC or Terminal Server or some such, I'd use Outlook everywhere I go. SSH'ing in and firing up mutt or Pine is a bit easier though, when I'm a few thousand miles away from home. There's something referred to as the right tool for the job, which half this list apparently has never heard of. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Peter S Galbraith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 12:05 PM To: Jeremy Gaddis Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: new to debian have questions Jeremy Gaddis wrote: Allow me to expand a little bit. I don't have the time to sift through every mail client listed on SourceForge/FreshMeat/etc. to find one I like. I've used Outlook for years, I like it, it works for me(tm). If you don't like it, don't use it. I promise you won't hurt my feelings. Earlier you said: I use Outlook because I find it to be better than any piece of shit MUA that I can run on Linux. Your new expanded version doesn't reflect the same viewpoint as the original post, which was sure to get you flamed. Personally, I can't imagine reading/deleting hundreds of mailing list post per day on outlook.
Re: new to debian have questions
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 10:23:31AM -0400, Brian Nelson wrote: That said, I tend to be highly suspicious of anyone that posts email to this list with a MS mail client. It's one thing for a newbie that's having installation trouble with Debian, but it likely shows ignorance for a so-called experienced Linux user. You would be hard-pressed to find another person on this list that thought MS mail products are superior to Unix ones. Why would you be suspicious? I happen to like Outlook, and for the most part I think it's a good product. If you don't like it, don't use it. Why does it show ignorance for a so- called experienced Linux user? Because I like it? Because I think it's a better client than [mutt|Pine|other MUA here]? If you consider someone ignorant because of the mail client they use, you jump to conclusions way too quick. If I were a newbie posting to the list with Outlook/OE, spitting HTML messages everywhere, with screwed up line breaks, etc. etc. I might understand why I was flamed for using Outlook. I *do*, however, take the time to configure my mail clients to avoid such crap. Joost is one of the most knowledgable people on this list, and you basically said he was wrong. I thought that was pretty ignorant, and not surprising from someone who used MS products. With your reply, you just proved my point nicely. I'm not sure how I said he was wrong. I try not to be like some people and be so quick to judge others, especially when it's WRT something as stupid as what mail client one prefers. FWIW, Joost does seem rather knowledgeable, AFAICT from his list posts anyways. What if he decided to switch mail clients? Would you suddenly flame him in the same way and call him ignorant also? j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: new to debian have questions
FWIW, I absolutely loathe dselect. I'm sure it's probably improved with the last few releases of Debian, but it used to be a royal PITA. The only time I use dselect is during the initial installation just because it starts up automatically. I immediately exit dselect, let the system reboot, then install what I want to using apt-get. I've yet to find that there was anything I needed to do that *required* that I fire up dselect. apt-get and dpkg work just fine for me. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric E Moore Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 3:48 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: new to debian have questions Joost == Joost Kooij [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Joost Apt-get is generally much cooler when run as a dselect method. Joost It will save you many pains if you take 30 minutes to learn the Joost principles behind dselect and its slightly weird key Joost assignments (it's still much easier to learn than vi). Joost People who tell you to use apt-get directly are generally Joost ill-informed. If you do not understand what dselect does for Joost you, that means that you have to do it yourself if you don't Joost use dselect. Unfortunately, it seems that many people do not Joost understand what dselect is supposed to do. For the relatively uninitated amongst us, could you spell this out quickly. What does dselct do that apt-get doesn't? I remember hearing on a list that it doesn't handle suggests and reccomends, is there anything else? If so, what? Is this in a FAQ? I checked the debian faq and it lists some things dselect can do, but it seems apt-get does some too... -Eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 3com NIC question
For reasons unbeknownst to me, I've had problems before when using 3c509's with Debian's stock installation kernel. There has even been a few times when I had to swap NICs just for the installation to work. As soon as I compile my a custom kernel for the machines and put the 3c509's back in, it works fine. I don't use DHCP here, but it's just something I've noticed. I have three machines running 3c509's now with custom (i.e. not the stock) kernels and they work great. The 3c509's, IMO, are damn good cards. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:pts/1:~]$ grep ^eth0 /var/log/dmesg | head -n 1 eth0: 3c509 at 0x300 tag 1, 10baseT port, address 00 20 af 24 79 8c, IRQ 10. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:pts/0:~]$ grep ^eth0 /var/log/dmesg | head -n 1 eth0: 3c5x9 at 0x200, 10baseT port, address 00 20 af 18 61 fe, IRQ 3. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:pts/0:~]$ grep ^eth0 /var/log/dmesg | head -n 1 eth0: 3c509 at 0x300 tag 1, 10baseT port, address 00 a0 24 04 0e 97, IRQ 10. The card in hurricane is actually a 3c529 which is just a microchannel (MCA) version of the 3c509. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Sunny Dubey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 4:45 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: 3com NIC question hey, I have a 3c509 NIC. I tried getting an IP for this NIC by using DHCP. (I used dhcpcd) But for some odd reason, it wouldn't work, and so I stfw'ed. (searched the fucking web). looking at various mailing lists, i found that I wasn't the only one with the same problem, the common solution was to disable PNP, and try again. I followed the steps as show, with no luck in the end. I tried both linux-2.4.6, linux-2.2.19pre17 (The one with potatoe) and various dhcp clients (dhcpcd, pump, etc) and none have worked. But today, on the same box I tried installing openbsd, and I found that DHCP worked right out of the install. This made me wonder once again why it doesn't work under linux. Does anyone have any insight on why this happens only in linux? (I tried under windows, and it works there too) Thanks Sunny Dubey -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problem with fetchmail (was: I can't start with mutt)
Is there any particular reason you're passing mail directly from fetchmail to procmail and skipping the MTA? I've used fetchmail for years and I always have it hand off to sendmail which then invokes procmail for local delivery and I've never had a problem with it. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Krzysztof Mazurczyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 9:26 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Problem with fetchmail (was: I can't start with mutt) Hi all Thanks for reply Here is my ~/.fetchmail poll poczta1.newcomo.net proto pop3 user kmazurczyk pass x is kmaza here mda /usr/bin/procmail; It's all. I made an experiment changing mda to /bin/cat. On screen I've got my post changed. Seems procmail is ok but fetchmail does something strange. Regards Chris - Original Message - From: D-Man [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 3:05 PM Subject: Re: Problem with fetchmail (was: I can't start with mutt) On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 02:50:41PM +0200, Krzysztof Mazurczyk wrote: | It's a bit more clear | Mutt is OK. If I copied file with post from server to workstation | Mutt reads post. But if mai is fetched by fetchmail, mutt | displays only./var/spool/mail/myuser is not a mailbox | | Diff shows that fetchmail deleted first line | From [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... | and inserted | Received: from poczta1.newcomo.net | by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.3.3) | for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (single drop); ... | | When I edited my mailbox and restored dropped line | mutt could read my mail. | | Let's summarize: Mutt require From ... as first line which line | is deleted by fetchmail. Any comments ? Yes, but mutt isn't the only thing that requires a From line (not to be confused with a From: line). It is part of the mbox specification. Perhaps fetchmail or your mda isn't behaving well. Could you post your .fetchmailrc file; replacing your password with dummy text, of course. HTH, -D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: D-Man [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 3:05 PM Subject: Re: Problem with fetchmail (was: I can't start with mutt) On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 02:50:41PM +0200, Krzysztof Mazurczyk wrote: | It's a bit more clear | Mutt is OK. If I copied file with post from server to workstation | Mutt reads post. But if mai is fetched by fetchmail, mutt | displays only./var/spool/mail/myuser is not a mailbox | | Diff shows that fetchmail deleted first line | From [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... | and inserted | Received: from poczta1.newcomo.net | by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.3.3) | for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (single drop); ... | | When I edited my mailbox and restored dropped line | mutt could read my mail. | | Let's summarize: Mutt require From ... as first line which line | is deleted by fetchmail. Any comments ? Yes, but mutt isn't the only thing that requires a From line (not to be confused with a From: line). It is part of the mbox specification. Perhaps fetchmail or your mda isn't behaving well. Could you post your .fetchmailrc file; replacing your password with dummy text, of course. HTH, -D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Unidentified subject!
We're sorry, but due to a PEBKAC (Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair) error (specifically, you can't read) we have refused to unsubscribe from from the debian-user mailing list. Perhaps you should read the bottom of this message and try again. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 10:51 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Unidentified subject! unsubscribe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: embeded debian
I'm not sure if it's what you're looking for or not, but check out http://www.debian.org/ports/arm/. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Wayne Sitton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 10:40 PM To: debian-user Subject: embeded debian My company just started developing for the YOPY PDA. Me personaly, I am a Debian guy, so I found the Embeded debian project(http://www.emdebian.org). Unfortunately, their listserv basically has no traffic. So, does anyone know if their is an official, or plans for an official, Embeded Debian or a Debian dist. based on the ARM processor. OR, dose their need to be? Wayne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: fetchmail at boot
Depends on how you connect to the network (either local network or Internet, whichever applies). I use a dialup PPP link so I put it in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/, but if you have a cable/DSL/etc. connection, I'd write a quick init script, put it in /etc/init.d/, and create symlinks (in /etc/rc*.d/) to bring it up after everything else. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: xucaen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 1:59 AM To: Debian User Subject: fetchmail at boot currently I have fetchmail being run at login from ~/.bash_profile. this is fine for myself at login, however, I would like to have fetchmail run as a daemon at boot time so it can poll for multiple users. Where should I have fetchmail loaded from to do this? thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: networking windows and linux
And let's not forget, How to get your ass fired real quick when the suits *DO* notice. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Steve Kowalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 3:23 AM To: D-Man Cc: Debian-User List Subject: Re: networking windows and linux On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 04:45:44PM -0400, D-Man uttered: I bet none of them (the management anyways) do -- they tell their IT department to make it work :-). Then the IT department pulls a NT=Linux changeup under their nose and the need to reboot stops. (I've read of this actually happening in some places :-)). Also referred to as How to run a Linux web server without your boss knowing, or Replacing a departments server with Linux, and not have them notice. -- Steve I'm a sysadmin because I couldn't beat a blind monkey in a coding contest. --Me
RE: printing
If it were me, I'd install the lprng package, then install magicfilter which will pretty much set up your printer configuration file (/etc/printcap). If it's a fairly standard, supported printer, magicfilter should have no problems with it. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jeff Conder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 12:05 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: printing Newbie here... I've used unix systems for years and am certainly not an expert. I'm new to Linux and just installed it on my pc. Why can't I print? There is no lp, lpr command. There is a /dev/lp0 device and my printer was recognized during installation. I found documentation that said I needed to install a package like LPD, but haven't found any packages that refer to printer in dselect. I think I'm going down the wrong path with this print thing. Any suggestions for getting print capability? I'm heading to the bookstore tomorrow, then maybe I can ask more intelligent questions :o Thanks Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Help For Newbie
FWIW, here's what I get when I try to run pppconfig as non-root on my gateway machine: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:pts/0:~]$ pppconfig You must be root to run this program. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 12:25 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Help For Newbie Kent West writes: If it just shuts itself down on its own, something's wrong. Perhaps she is not running pppconfig as root. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Help For Newbie
Keri, First off, bring up an xterm/rxvt/whatever so that you're at a shell prompt. If you're not logged in as root (as you shouldn't be), enter the command su - followed by your root password. From there, run /usr/bin/pppconfig and configure your dialup connection. After that's successful, you'll want to add your regular user account to the dip group (adduser username dip). This way you can bring your PPP connection up and down without having to su to root. HTH. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Keri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 2:06 PM To: DU Subject: Re: Help For Newbie Yeah. I'm confused. There ae two icons on the desktop here. On for conencting and onforon/off. I have no idea where this fits in and if I have to configure the ppp in -term? The books I _do_ have unfortunately aren't tackling the problem as it seems there are so many different set ups. It doesn't seem to dwell much on configuration for my specific set up. Keri This explains a lot. Normally in linux, commands are typed in a text window or on the text console. Probably, pppconfig should not be in the graphical menu, it is only confusing indeed. Try to get used to the command line. Most examples in the documentation assume that that is how you use commands. A good book about learning unix or linux may not be a bad idea either, if you have to be your own systems administrator. Currently, it is still rather harder than easier to administrate linux with pictures. If it ever will, I'm not sure if I will still recognise it, though. :-) Cheers, Joost -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: networking windows and linux
Wow, Windows isn't a stable server!? Damn, I bet that's news to the millions of people and corporations worldwide who've been running it for years. ;) j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Joost Kooij [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 12:35 PM To: Dan Cox Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: networking windows and linux On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 11:44:53PM -0700, Dan Cox wrote: I'm currently trying to network a windows box and a debian box. I'm using ethernet cards and am able to ping both boxes respectfully. I use the windows box for the internet and mail (although once I am comfortable with Linux I will be converting fully).My question is how do I share the files from the windows box with the Linux box? And while I'm at it Don't do that. Windows is not a stable server. It will hurt when you do it. how do I share the Linux files with the windows box (I really don't care about that right now, but for future reference maybe)? Thanks. Install samba. There is a lot of good samba documentation available, try starting there first. Cheers, Joost -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: networking windows and linux
I don't want to start a war here and I've refrained from replying to the many other posts, but there are many NT machines which go for weeks and months on end without being rebooted. My departmental NT server had been up for 120-something days last time I was there. I've been on vacation for a few weeks so I don't know what it's at now. Maybe it's luck; maybe our NT admins just know what the hell they're doing. With MCSE's at a dime a dozen anymore, it's hard to find people with a genuine clue. Perhaps my company has done just that. *shrug* Anyways, I'm done with this thread. It started as an attempt at humor. I suppose there's still many of those people with the attitude that Linux is a better operating system than Windows at everything there is. Then again, those with a clue understand that it's a matter of which tool is best suited for the job at hand. j. -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Wayne Topa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 5:16 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: networking windows and linux Subject: RE: networking windows and linux Date: Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 02:29:24PM -0500 In reply to:Jeremy Gaddis Quoting Jeremy Gaddis([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Wow, Windows isn't a stable server!? Damn, I bet that's news to the millions of people and corporations worldwide who've been running it for years. ;) But not to to their System admins, I'd bet. Having to reboot often is not what I would call stable. -- Bringing computers into the home won't change either one, but may revitalize the corner saloon. ___ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: how to extract *.deb files, etc.
As far
as extracting Debian package files ("*.deb's") goes,
I've
found the easiest way is to use "alien" (apt-get install
alien)
and convert it to a tarball ("*.tar.gz").
-jg
--Jeremy L. Gaddis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-From: Stephen Jiang
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 2:25
AMTo: debian-user@lists.debian.orgSubject: how to
extract *.deb files, etc.
I am new to Linux (especially Debian),
please help me out.
1. Does anyone can tell me how to extract
*.deb files?And where can I find Debian's special commands?
2. I have just installed Debian 2.2 r0
(potato), but XF86 did not work (don't have SVGA driver - returned message at
first time). So, I used VGA16 driver during XF86Setup (second time), the setup
program told me successfully installed XF86 but it failed after I press ok to
continue.
Thanks for your attention.
Regards
Stephen
RE: upgrade question
See The Linux Kernel HOWTO, http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO.html -jg -- Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linuxero [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 9:46 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: upgrade question Hello. I'm new to debian (not to linux). I have installed potato version 2.2r2 First off all I inserted in sources.list a ftp to download new packages, then I maked an update of packages lists, so I did a #apt-get dist-upgrade successfuly but I noted that the kernel has not been upgraded... this is ok? How i can do the kernel update? Thanks cheers --- EL Linuxero -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
