Re: Building two servers
hans- you might also want to check out the forums at www.2cpu.com. a community of smp enthusiasts. John Cuson [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is an old maxim of mine that when you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle Hans Wilmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/9/2004 9:15:45 AM Hi! Unfortunately, I´m a bit lost on what hardware to use to build two servers. Both servers should run Debian, and I´m trying to find out about compatibility issues before buying any hardware. One of the servers will be used as a fileserver running SAMBA as a PDC. A single CPU system might be sufficient to serve about 40 users, but my impression is that a dual system would be better suited to our demands on the long run. The second one will act as a kind of application server by running a web-based ERP solution. It mainly needs to operate a postgreSQL database. The vendor of the software recommends a dual CPU system. Thus, both servers, at least one of them, will be dual CPU systems, but I´m lacking experience with multi processor maschines. Both should have SATA RAID controllers from 3ware, thus mainboards providing 64bit PCI slots make sense. Tyan makes some interesting boards, but I don´t know if they eventually have problems with Debian. How´s your experience with them? --- I´ve been looking for a hardware compatibility list, but didn´t find any decent information yet. Which kind of processors can you recommend, AMD (Opteron?) or some Intel? Any hints and suggestions are welcome. GH -- for i in *.txt; do mail -s $i hwilmer $i; done su: $i: ambiguous redirect -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hylafax help
dean- you may find this page http://ralphie.perlmonk.org/mosix/hylafax.html to be helpful. i wrote it some time ago, but it looks to be still pertinent. john cuson ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) The world is full of obvious things which nobody by any chance ever observes. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle Dean Takemori [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/08/04 12:50AM On Jan 7, 2004, at 6:36 PM, Jonathan Pietkiewicz wrote: On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 04:40:53PM -1000, Dean Takemori wrote: Hello, I'm still a little greenish around the gills with respect to the way debian does things ... What am I doing wrong? first off - don't send to the digest - send to the debian-users list. Whoops. Sorry all. Second - I'm not catching what you are trying to do here - but have you tried to use the apt tools? snip $ sudo apt-get install hylafax-client hylafax-server hylafax-doc I know how to use apt-get. I was just trying to show the simpler output of dpkg. It doesn't matter if I use sudo apt-get install hylafax-client hylafax-server hylafax-doc or if I download the .debs and then install with sudo dpkg -i hylafax-client_4.1.1-3_i386.deb hylafax-server_4.1.1-3_i386.deb The result is still ~ ls -l /etc/hylafax/ total 12 -rw-r--r--1 root root 1906 Oct 12 1998 dialrules.dpkg-dist -rw-r--r--1 root root 2455 Oct 12 1998 dialrules.europe.dpkg-dist -rw-r--r--1 root root 2150 Oct 12 1998 dialrules.sf-ba.dpkg-dist lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 12 Jan 7 16:14 egetty-link - /sbin/mgetty* lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 12 Jan 7 16:14 getty-link - /sbin/mgetty* lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 16 Jan 7 16:14 vgetty-link - /usr/sbin/vgetty* That bunches of stuff that are in the .deb packages don't get installed. ~ dpkg -c hylafax-server_4.1.1-3_i386.deb | grep etc\/hylafax drwxr-xr-x root/uucp 0 2003-11-16 00:16:59 ./etc/hylafax/ -rw--- uucp/root15 2003-11-16 00:16:10 ./etc/hylafax/hosts.hfaxd -rw-r--r-- root/root 2499 2003-11-16 00:16:10 ./etc/hylafax/hfaxd.conf -rw-r--r-- root/root 10421 1998-10-12 10:47:48 ./etc/hylafax/cover.templ -rw-r--r-- root/root 1906 1998-10-12 10:47:48 ./etc/hylafax/dialrules -rw-r--r-- root/root 2150 1998-10-12 10:47:48 ./etc/hylafax/dialrules.sf-ba -rw-r--r-- root/root 2455 1998-10-12 10:47:48 ./etc/hylafax/dialrules.europe -rw-r--r-- root/root 211 2003-11-16 00:16:10 ./etc/hylafax/config -rw-r--r-- root/root 14072 1998-10-12 10:47:48 ./etc/hylafax/lutRS18.pcf lrwxrwxrwx root/root 0 2003-11-16 00:17:03 ./var/spool/hylafax/etc - /etc/hylafax What is happening to /etc/hylafaxhosts.hfaxd? Where is /etc/hylafax/hfaxd.conf being installed? Why is /etc/hylafax/lutRS18.pcf nowhere to be found on the filesystem after the install? Without those files, hylafax is useless. I _could_ just unpack the .debs and install the files by hand, but that just defeats the point of a package manager (not to mention it might be glossing over something seriously hosed with my system) -dean takemori -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody vs. raid array
you still have to create drive partitions as type fd (for linux raid autodetect), download the raidtools (raidtools2), and create the device before you can do anything with it. john cuson ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) The world is full of obvious things which nobody by any chance ever observes. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle Will Trillich [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/22/03 12:40AM i've managed to get an actual budget to put together a woody server with a real raid -- and of course, it's not going smoothly. athlon xp 1800+ 768mb eec-registered ddr ram dual 160gb (western digital, 7200rpm) drives, raid1 (mirror) fasttrak100 lite yet, during startup from the woody iso (which is exactly the same as what i get when booting the 2.4.21-pre3 fd .bin image i got from http://ttul.org/~rrsadler/linux-promise/ ) i see in dmesg that Promise Fasttrak(tm) Software raid driver is loaded and being tested, but not finding any raid arrays: Promise Fasttrak(tm) Softwareraid driver 0.03beta: No raid array found Highpoint HPT370 Softwareraid driver for linux version 0.01 No raid array found snip md: linear personality registered as nr 1 md: raid0 personality registered as nr 2 md: raid1 personality registered as nr 3 md: raid5 personality registered as nr 4 raid5: measuring checksumming speed snip md: multipath personality registered as nr 7 md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27 md: Autodetecting RAID arrays. md: autorun ... md: ... autorun DONE. snip i noticed that the instructions at http://ttul.org/~rrsadler/linux-promise/ mention the FastTrak TX2000 Ultra ATA/133 UDMA RAID Card (the 133) whereas mine is the fastrak100 lite... is that a significant difference? at bootup, after DEL is no longer an option, ^F gets me into the raid configuration area, before the lilo boot (whether from cd or floppy) and all seems healthy, there. when i boot the boot-floppies (which, like the cd-rom, also apologize for being called boot floppies :) all seems smooth sailing until partition hard disk which lists only /dev/hdc and /dev/hda; these appear to be the two drives composing the raid array. each worked fine plugged in as a sole ide-drive; complete install went like a dream -- without the raid setup, of course. now it's supposed to be under /dev/ataraid/d0, but cfdisk (alt-f2 to get to a command line from the install console) says Cannot open disk drive. what tests can i make to pin down what's stuck? == note -- all these log entries are re-keyed, of course, since i can't get the raid system up and running. two keyboards, two monitors, two hands :), two disks, no raid :( == i found the above resources at http://colby.tjs.org/~brendandg/promise-ft66-howto/howto.html -- I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0; Linux boss 2.4.18-bf2.4 #1 Son Apr 14 09:53:28 CEST 2002 i586 unknown DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #4 from Will Trillich [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Want to know WHAT FILES ARE PROVIDED BY PACKAGE x-y-z? This is a job for dpkg: enter dpkg -L package-name at the command prompt. Try dpkg -L netbase | pager for example. Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Graphing/Charting software
i'd take a look at statistics software of one kind or another if you have to do anything else with the data. most programs can readily generate a simple x-y plot. if you have access to sas i'd suggest taking a look at that. if not, r is gnu. if all you need to do is plot, also take a look at gnuplot ... http://www.cs.uni.edu/Help/gnuplot/ john cuson ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) The world is full of obvious things which nobody by any chance ever observes. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/07/03 08:43PM Hey all Does anyone know of good graphing software that won't crash with huge amounts of data? All I need is a nice x-y plot graph, but I have over a million points. Excel has many limitations, as it turns out -- which I managed to get around, but not the graph preview pane, which is horribly slow. Don't even ask about Quattro Pro, Gnumeric or StarOffice... *shudder*. What'd be nice is just a simple text-based program that outputs a nice postscript-type graph. Does such a program exist? And if so, does it do anything close to what I need? Thanks in advance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Could this be debian ?
actually made me grin a little. reminded me of the time when i was starting with debian a few years ago and going around in circles because dpkg wouldn't let me install pkg. a w/o the presence of pkg. b, and wouldn't let me install pkg. b w/o the presence of pkg a. looking back, however, no one on this list called me names before telling me that you could specify two packages at the same time on the dpkg command line. grin john cuson ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) The world is full of obvious things which nobody by any chance ever observes. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/21/03 01:39AM http://www.langa.com/newsletters/2003/2003-07-21.htm Item 10 - Just for grins Get your flamethrowers ready! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
woody and mod-perl
howdy- has anyone out there run into any difficulties with woody and mod-perl? i use a small box to support in-house queries against a postgresql database, and after installing mod-perl from the packaged binary i started receiving a bad result set from a query constructed by a cgi script. i get the correct result when i invoke dbish and construct the query, and i've made sure that the cgi script is creating the right query, but the returned result set is all over the map. which leads me to the question of how this package is put together .. i suspect the requisite perl interpreter comes in the libapache-mod-perl package ... can anyone confirm that? my current hypothesis is that i'm invoking an interpreter that is trying to use database drivers compiled against the installed perl interpreter, and the two are out of sync, but right now this is just a working hypothesis. john cuson ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) The world is full of obvious things which nobody by any chance ever observes. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
Re: Raid; mkraid /dev/md0_HELP?
franz- from the /usr/src/linux directory after extracting the tar archive, with the gzipped patch file in the /usr/src directory, issue zcat ../name of patch file.gz | patch -p1 . in the last couple of days i've configured a debian box with a stripe set volume, let me know if you have any questions. for one thing, if you're doing a fresh install you don't necessarily need to upgrade the kernel to 2.4.5 unless you want to. the 2.2.19 kernel on the woody installation diskettes can be configured to handle raid under the block devices setup, which gives you the opportunity to get a good installation before you mess with the kernel. john cuson ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I'd rather be a could-be if I cannot be an are; because a could-be is a maybe who is reaching for a star. I'd rather be a has-been than a might-have-been, by far; for a might-have-been has never been, but a has-been was once an are. -Milton Berle
possible attached virus
hi all- fyi, our mail system just blocked a post from this list with a potential virus attachment. i don't know more about the message, but it would have been between the posts from mirek kwasniak and jonathan daugherty which hit our server at 9:03 and 9:10 am est, respectively. john cuson ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I'd rather be a could-be if I cannot be an are; because a could-be is a maybe who is reaching for a star. I'd rather be a has-been than a might-have-been, by far; for a might-have-been has never been, but a has-been was once an are. -Milton Berle BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-GWTYPE:USER FN:John Cuson TEL;WORK:233-8069 EMAIL;WORK;PREF;NGW:Jcuson.ISDH2.ISDHS N:Cuson;John X-GWUSERID:Jcuson END:VCARD
bind worm
forwarded sans alert ... john cuson ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast. Alice, in Alice In Wonderland Lewis Carroll ---BeginMessage--- -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ALERT! A DANGEROUS NEW WORM IS SPREADING ON THE INTERNET March 23, 2001 7:00 AM Late last night, the SANS Institute (through its Global Incident Analysis Center) uncovered a dangerous new worm that appears to be spreading rapidly across the Internet. It scans the Internet looking for Linux computers with a known vulnerability. It infects the vulnerable machines, steals the password file (sending it to a China.com site), installs other hacking tools, and forces the newly infected machine to begin scanning the Internet looking for other victims. Several experts from the security community worked through the night to decompose the worm's code and engineer a utility to help you discover if the Lion worm has affected your organization. Updates to this announcement will be posted at the SANS web site, http://www.sans.org DESCRIPTION The Lion worm is similar to the Ramen worm. However, this worm is significantly more dangerous and should be taken very seriously. It infects Linux machines running the BIND DNS server. It is known to infect bind version(s) 8.2, 8.2-P1, 8.2.1, 8.2.2-Px, and all 8.2.3-betas. The specific vulnerability used by the worm to exploit machines is the TSIG vulnerability that was reported on January 29, 2001. The Lion worm spreads via an application called randb. Randb scans random class B networks probing TCP port 53. Once it hits a system, it checks to see if it is vulnerable. If so, Lion exploits the system using an exploit called name. It then installs the t0rn rootkit. Once Lion has compromised a system, it: - - Sends the contents of /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow, as well as some network settings to an address in the china.com domain. - - Deletes /etc/hosts.deny, eliminating the host-based perimeter protection afforded by tcp wrappers. - - Installs backdoor root shells on ports 60008/tcp and 33567/tcp (via inetd, see /etc/inetd.conf) - - Installs a trojaned version of ssh that listens on 33568/tcp - - Kills Syslogd , so the logging on the system can't be trusted - - Installs a trojaned version of login - - Looks for a hashed password in /etc/ttyhash - - /usr/sbin/nscd (the optional Name Service Caching daemon) is overwritten with a trojaned version of ssh. The t0rn rootkit replaces several binaries on the system in order to stealth itself. Here are the binaries that it replaces: du, find, ifconfig, in.telnetd, in.fingerd, login, ls, mjy, netstat, ps, pstree, top - - Mjy is a utility for cleaning out log entries, and is placed in /bin and /usr/man/man1/man1/lib/.lib/. - - in.telnetd is also placed in these directories; its use is not known at this time. - - A setuid shell is placed in /usr/man/man1/man1/lib/.lib/.x DETECTION AND REMOVAL We have developed a utility called Lionfind that will detect the Lion files on an infected system. Simply download it, uncompress it, and run lionfind. This utility will list which of the suspect files is on the system. At this time, Lionfind is not able to remove the virus from the system. If and when an updated version becomes available (and we expect to provide one), an announcement will be made at this site. Download Lionfind at http://www.sans.org/y2k/lionfind-0.1.tar.gz REFERENCES Further information can be found at: http://www.sans.org/current.htm http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2001-02.html, CERT Advisory CA-2001-02, Multiple Vulnerabilities in BIND http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/196945 ISC BIND 8 contains buffer overflow in transaction signature (TSIG) handling code http://www.sans.org/y2k/t0rn.htm Information about the t0rn rootkit. The following vendor update pages may help you in fixing the original BIND vulnerability: Redhat Linux RHSA-2001:007-03 - Bind remote exploit http://www.redhat.com/support/errata/RHSA-2001-007.html Debian GNU/Linux DSA-026-1 BIND http://www.debian.org/security/2001/dsa-026 SuSE Linux SuSE-SA:2001:03 - Bind 8 remote root compromise. http://www.suse.com/de/support/security/2001_003_bind8_ txt.txt Caldera Linux CSSA-2001-008.0 Bind buffer overflow http://www.caldera.com/support/security/advisories/CSSA-2001-008.0.txt http://www.caldera.com/support/security/advisories/CSSA-2001-008.1.txt This security advisory was prepared by Matt Fearnow of the SANS Institute and William Stearns of the Dartmouth Institute for Security Technology Studies. The Lionfind utility was written by William Stearns. William is an Open-Source developer, enthusiast, and advocate from Vermont, USA. His day job at the Institute for Security Technology Studies at Dartmouth College
Re: debian Networking not installed
george- make sure you installed support for your network card (either compiled into the kernel or as a module) when you configured the installation during setup ... it should fall out from there. at this point, you could compile a kernel with that support, but if you just did the initial install it may be easier to just re-install. john cuson ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast. Alice, in Alice In Wonderland Lewis Carroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/22/01 12:10PM I used the latest CD's for an install, but seems to be a minimalist install. Where can I find doco on adding networking ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
taper volume and archive names
hi all- i'm setting up a series of unattended backups on a box running the unstable dist. and taper v. 6.9b. i've pretty well got it working, but i'm having trouble getting the volume and archive names written. here's an example of the command i'm using: taper -T s -c 3 +a -u -g hiv2k -t today --erase-tape-on -U @hiv2000 i've tried this with and w/out quotes, and it makes no difference. can anyone spot what's wrong with this? john cuson ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast. Alice, in Alice In Wonderland Lewis Carroll
dhcpcd potato
hi- i'm working on switching from static ip addresses to dynamic using dhcp on my massive private network (all 3 machines are currently arranged around my chair grin). i've gotten what should be a working server daemon running on the relevant machine, but when i try to load the dhcpcd client daemon on another it fails and kills the eth0 interface. i've tried the debug option, but nothing is written. i've done a few web searches around this but not found anything that seems to speak to this. could it relate to the card driver? i'm using the realtek rtl8139, which always seems to be included in the partial or incomplete list of drivers. john cuson _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
potato ppp authentication
i'm configuring a potato box ultimately to be used as a firewall/proxy for a dial-up connection to an isp that uses pap authentication. i'm new to ppp under linux, but i've worked through the configuration as outlined in the how-to, and i can get ppp-on to dial out and connect, but it quickly drops the connection. when i follow the manual steps outlined in the how-to (pon, start the connection with minicom, log on, drop out of minicom, and issue pppd -detach) the stream of messages i get indicate a problem with negotiating for an ip address. ultimately, the final negotiation message indicates that the peer is not authorized to use the remote ip address on my machine. i've checked the pap-secrets file and it seems to be configured as the how-to wants (my local userid), but i suspect that i'm missing something here. can anyone offer any suggestions? john cuson _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
ns woes
hi- i've got a potato machine that i've just upgraded from slink. when i originally configured this machine (slink) i set it up to be its own dns server, primarily from a what the heck rather than any functional standpoint. now i'm wanting to tell it to forward requests to a local proxy server for my dial-up connection. from reading the dns how-to it seemed that it should be a relatively simple matter of adding the forwarder address to the named.conf file, but the first time through i got turned around and edited the vestigial /etc/named.conf rather than the /etc/bind/named.conf and by the time i realized what had happened i had been editing files hither and yon, trying to figure out why i couldn't get the thing to work. once i spotted the source of the problem i edited the right file, but now i'm having general functional problems. at this point i'm both trying to find the most efficient manner to get this thing cleaned up, and i'm wondering whether what i interpret as the leftover files from the previous slink config could be serving a functional role for some package of which i'm not aware. does anyone have any input to offer? john cuson _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
samba weirdness
hi- i'm using samba 2.0.6 on kernel 2.2.14 and i've just run into something very strange. i've been working on configuring gcc 2.95.2 on an nt4 share using smbmount, and when i run the configure script debian thinks the created directories and files have dates like July 26, 1943 !, while nt reports them correctly. has anyone run into this kind of thing? John Cuson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Someday we'll look back on this moment and plow into a parked car. -- Evan Davis John Cuson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Someday we'll look back on this moment and plow into a parked car. -- Evan Davis
device files
hi- can anyone point me to where i might find a device file index of some sort? John Cuson [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others. -- Groucho Marx
dependency problems
someone last week told me about the pc magazine article that was placed on zdnet and led to the spate of discussion we've just seen. my response at the time was it's not for weenies. that was, of course, before i began setting up a series of libraries to support a gnome application and ran into my current problem...how does one resolve a dependency problem that results because gnome-bin won't install because libgnome31 isn't installed, and libgnome31 won't install because gnome-bin isn't installed? can someone offer me a hint here?
Re: Entpacken von Dateien im .deb-Format
for general information, the translation services at alta vista translated the message as: I know the files in the deb format also in a Windows surface unpack? And if, how? you can do this with a cut and paste at http://babelfish.altavista.com/cgi-bin/translate? John Cuson [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] You can check your anatomy all you want, and even though there may be normal variation, when it comes right down to it, this far inside the head it all looks the same. No, no, no, don't tug on that. You never know what it might be attached to. ...Buckaroo Banzai Jeff Katcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/20 1:28 PM Preuss, Maik wrote: Kann ich die Dateien im .deb Format auch in einer Windows-Oberfläche entpacken? Und wenn ja, wie? Maik Preuß Tel.: +49-0172-3721363 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null I'm just curious as to wether there is a german? language list we could direct these kind of query's to. or wether there is someone German speaking who could translate? Jeff -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
printing problems
hi all- i'm new to this list, and have been messing around with linux for 7 or 8 weeks now, so i guess i'm an experienced newbie. last week i started working on printing to a networked printer that uses an hp jetdirect card. i can get the print jobs to the printer, but the output is not appropriately formatted. when i simply lpr a test file, it appears that i am not getting line feeds...the first line of text is printed, but is never wrapped. when i try to print a man page by piping the output to lpr as suggested in the printing usage howto i get blank pages, though if i remove the intervening pipe to the col program i do get one character at the far right margin of the page. here are the relevant lines from /etc/printcap: ljet4_pcl|rm337 :lp=:\ :rm=labs_337_hplj4 :rp=ljet4_pcl :sd=/var/spool/lpd/ljet4_pcl :if=/usr/lib/CTI-Print/bin/ifhp :lf=/var/spool/lpd/ljet4_pcl.log # :mx#0 # :sh ljet4_txt|rm337 :lp=:\ :rm=labs_337_hplj4 :rp=ljet4_txt :if=/usr/lib/CTI-Print/bin/ifhp :pw#85 :sd=/var/spool/lpd/ljet4_txt :lf=/var/spool/lpd/ljet4_txt.log as you can see, i'm using the hp filter (ifhp) and defined the page width as 85 for the text printer definition. i've looked around in the faqs and howto's, the 2nd edition of running linux, and the various docs for this distribution (debian), but i'm not finding anything that seems directly pertinent. does anyone have any suggestions? John Cuson [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] You can check your anatomy all you want, and even though there may be normal variation, when it comes right down to it, this far inside the head it all looks the same. No, no, no, don't tug on that. You never know what it might be attached to. ...Buckaroo Banzai
