webmail for low-end VPS
Can anyone recommend a webmail app suitable for a low-end VPS. I already have Postfix/Courier setup. It looks like I have three choices: 1. Squirrelmail 2. Roundcube 3. Imp4/Horde I have used squirrelmail before and was not impressed but have heard that Imp4 is resource hungry. That leaves Roundcube, of which I have no experience. Any suggestions? Regards, John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
entropy gathering module
Just configured a new VPS and when I try to get mail for the user (as opposed to root) I get 'no entropy gathering module detected' as a fatal error. If I run 'mail' as root there are no errors (and no mail) I've googled for this but the few results yeild no solutions except to point to a permissions problem, but no solution. Can anyone help? Regards, John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sex spam again on the list
On 18:12 Sun 09 Sep , Mumia W.. wrote: On 09/09/2007 03:08 PM, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: [...] A thing every user can do is to bounce spam delivered to the lists to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best you use mutt's bounce-function or Kmails redirect function for that, so the headers don't get modified, so we can directly us that emails to train our filters to do better. [...] Thanks Martin. Thunderbird doesn't have a bounce function. Would forwarding the message as an attachment do? Without wishing to start a conspiracy theory but has anyone collected stats on the mail-agents used to send spam. Up till a couple of months ago most were Outlook but since then I have seen a dramatic increase in the use of The Bat! to send spam. Obviously nothing to do with The Bat! becoming a Microsoft Trusted Partner in July this year. Regards, John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: syslogs not rotated - cron.daily never run because computer never up at 6:25am?
On 16:56 Sun 16 Sep , Malte Forkel wrote: The root partition of a machine running Debian Etch has filled up because log files like /var/log/syslog are not rotated and have become huge. As far as I understand, the script that rotates the system logs is /etc/cron.daily/sysklogd, which should be triggered by the entry 25 6* * * roottest -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily ) The key here is /usr/bin/anacron Look in /etc/anacrontab in /etc/crontab. But I found only one reference to the scripts in cron.daily being executed over the last couple of months. Could it be that cron ignores its daily tasks if the machine is down at the time specified for cron.daily in /etc/crontab? I.e., if the machine is never up at 6:25am, the daily cron jobs are never executed? If that's the case, how do I schedule jobs that are truly executed every day, even if the machine only runs at irregular times? anacrontab is especially for regular tasks on machines that are not up 24/7 HTH John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SA-learn on remote host
On 17:22 Fri 14 Sep , Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 09:23:16PM +0100, John K Masters wrote: I am gradually implementing a mail system where I have a mail-server on host1 running Postfix/Courier/Procmail/spamc which passes all except whitelisted mail to spamd on another server - host2. host2 simply runs the mail through SA and passes it back to host1 from which I read on my local box via Mutt. I see a couple possibilities. 1) if its a seceure network, just mount nfs the spam folder from host1 on host2 and run it locally on host2. 2) pipe the mail through ssh. something like find /path/to/spam | cat | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] sa-learn --spam -u appropriate-user-name - might work, but would require some mucking aorund with permissions and pubkey authentication. Those are my guesses. A OK got it working roughly thus:- 1] Generate a passphraseless ssh key on the local machine. 2] Copy the .pub key to all the servers you wish to connect to. 3] Anacron job on local machine run daily - ssh-add /path/to/passphraseless/key ssh -A [EMAIL PROTECTED] /path/to/host1-script.sh ssh-add -d /path/to/passphraseless/key 4] host1-script.sh is - #!/bin/bash SPAMSERV=[EMAIL PROTECTED] #FQDN of host running spamd LEARNDIR=/home/spamd/learnspam #dir to hold spam TARGETDIR=$SPAMSERV:$LEARNDIR SPAMDIR=/path/to/spam-mailbox/* #Where my spam is on host1 scp $SPAMDIR $TARGETDIR ssh $SPAMSERV sa-learn --spam $LEARNDIR rm $SPAMDIR exit Needs some (a lot of) tidying up but works for now and allows me to filter out false positives before they get assessed by sa-learn. Regards, John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SA-learn on remote host
On 08:22 Sat 15 Sep , Daniel Burrows wrote: On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 09:23:16PM +0100, John K Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: I am gradually implementing a mail system where I have a mail-server on host1 running Postfix/Courier/Procmail/spamc which passes all except whitelisted mail to spamd on another server - host2. host2 simply runs the mail through SA and passes it back to host1 from which I read on my local box via Mutt. Most spam gets filtered into the .Spam folder and I have bound keys in Mutt to move missed spam to this folder and to copy good messages to a .Ham folder. What I would like to do now is have a cronjob run the contents of these two folders through SA-learn and then delete them. ATM I am stumped as to how to go about this. Any pointers very welcome. I use IMAP to synchronize my mail across systems (sounds like you do too?), and just run the attached script over folders holding spam and ham to learn. (warning: it's quick and dirty, won't work for anyone else without tweaks!) Daniel Thanks for that. The script looks interesting especially as I am trying to learn Python :) I am playing around with ssh agent-forwarding and it seems to be coming together although I tend to keep moving the goalposts when I think of some new possibility. Regards, John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SA-learn on remote host
I am gradually implementing a mail system where I have a mail-server on host1 running Postfix/Courier/Procmail/spamc which passes all except whitelisted mail to spamd on another server - host2. host2 simply runs the mail through SA and passes it back to host1 from which I read on my local box via Mutt. Most spam gets filtered into the .Spam folder and I have bound keys in Mutt to move missed spam to this folder and to copy good messages to a .Ham folder. What I would like to do now is have a cronjob run the contents of these two folders through SA-learn and then delete them. ATM I am stumped as to how to go about this. Any pointers very welcome. Regards, John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stumble Upon
May be coincidence but I recently signed up to Stumble Upon with Iceweasel mainly in response to a post that had problems signing up. Since I signed up the address I used has seen an increase in spam from average of 1 per month to 5 per day and increasing. I have now cancelled my Stumble Upon sub but am told this cannot happen for at least 2 weeks. Anybody else had problems like this? Regards, John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vim kde questions
On 14:44 Tue 14 Aug , Mark Neidorff wrote: Hi all, After using another distribution for over 12 years, I've decided to give Debian Etch a good try. I've now got the luxury of having a second computer to try things on, so I've installed Debian on that and hope to move everything else over shortly. Right now, I've got two annoyances that I'd like to solve. First...vim. (Yeah, I'm old school) OK. I'm in text entry mode and I want to navagate up/down/left or right. If I press an arrow key, a new line is opened and a character (B or D or ...) is put in the first position of that line. If I switch to navagation mode, then the arrow keys work properly. Am I dealing with a vim problem, a terminal problem or a keyboard mapping/character set problem? Whichever it is, how do I solve it? AFAIK this is not default behaviour for vim on KDE but I use Gnome on my desktop. Default install of vim is vim-tiny but I usually install vim-full and edit .vimrc to taste. Get it wrong occasionally but that's half the fun. I would suggest you look at your key mappings. Regards, John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vim kde questions
On 21:19 Tue 14 Aug , John K Masters wrote: On 14:44 Tue 14 Aug , Mark Neidorff wrote: Hi all, After using another distribution for over 12 years, I've decided to give Debian Etch a good try. I've now got the luxury of having a second computer to try things on, so I've installed Debian on that and hope to move everything else over shortly. Right now, I've got two annoyances that I'd like to solve. First...vim. (Yeah, I'm old school) OK. I'm in text entry mode and I want to navagate up/down/left or right. If I press an arrow key, a new line is opened and a character (B or D or ...) is put in the first position of that line. If I switch to navagation mode, then the arrow keys work properly. Am I dealing with a vim problem, a terminal problem or a keyboard mapping/character set problem? Whichever it is, how do I solve it? AFAIK this is not default behaviour for vim on KDE but I use Gnome on my desktop. Default install of vim is vim-tiny but I usually install vim-full and edit .vimrc to taste. Get it wrong occasionally but that's half the fun. I would suggest you look at your key mappings. Or on second thoughts, set nocompatible in .vimrc Regards, John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reboot loses LAN connection
Strange behaviour on my laptop. Not sure if it's hardware or OS. Running unstable and apart from a couple of problems (solved) all has been well until about 4 days ago. Since then if I reboot or shutdown and do not disconnect the power, either by switching off at the mains or physically disconnecting the plug, the laptop loses it's LAN connection. This laptop is used 95% of the time at home plugged into a DLink router. When I moved in here I cabled up the whole place so I could easily locate workstations, laptops etc where I wanted. I've tried different cables, different ports on the router but no difference. My thought is that the laptop MOBO is failing but if anyone can tell me different I would be happy to hear as I can't afford to replace it. Regards, John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reboot loses LAN connection
On 14:45 Sat 11 Aug , Kent West wrote: John K Masters wrote: Strange behaviour on my laptop. Not sure if it's hardware or OS. Running unstable and apart from a couple of problems (solved) all has been well until about 4 days ago. Since then if I reboot or shutdown and do not disconnect the power, either by switching off at the mains or physically disconnecting the plug, the laptop loses it's LAN connection. Are you using DHCP or static addressing? What does ifconfig say .. before the reboot when the LAN's working after a reboot after a reboot and un-power It's a hardware problem! Just tried rebooting again and it was OK this time. That's about 10 fails before one success. Seems odd though that without moving anything, if I switch off at the wall socket and then switch on again, the LAN kicks back in. Intermittent problems are the worst. Looks like I'll have to start saving my pennies. Regards, John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie here - system administration question
On 22:49 Thu 09 Aug , Per olof Ljungmark wrote: Wayne Topa wrote: Per olof Ljungmark([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: bash: apr-cache: command not found ^^^ Typo - should be apt-cache. Probably worth reading up on Debian basics, maybe run apt-get install apt-howto debian-reference and settle down to some bedtime reading. Regards, John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any suggestions on good CLI newsreaders?
On 17:39 Mon 06 Aug , Amit Uttamchandani wrote: John Hasler jhasler at debian.org writes: Amit writes: Any of you use newsreaders from the commandline. I doubt anyone uses a command-line newsreader but many use text-only newsreaders such as slrn and trn. I use gnus, which can be either text-only on a console or GUI in X. I'm using an old laptop with debian and I read a lot of news everyday and loading the websites seems such a pain and slow process. What do Web sites have to do with news? News websites such as cnn, news.com, nytimes, etc. They have too many graphics and ads which are not necessary. I guess I'm just looking for a more efficient may to read the news. links2 - no fuss Regards, John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any suggestions on good CLI newsreaders?
On 18:09 Mon 06 Aug , Amit Uttamchandani wrote: That's a different beast - by asking for a newsreader, you got recommendations for usenet newsreaders... You are right. I actually meant RSS newsreaders. Thank you for clearing it up. Amit Ah, now I see what you're after. This may not be quite what you're looking for but:- http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Office/News-Diary/RSSTail-24912.shtml Looks fairly minimal but maybe that's what you want. Regards, John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Filling /var
Just had a bit of a wake-up call. Am running SID on my laptop and getting several updates per day. Today after updating the update process did not end properly as the /var partition had filled to 100%. In fact this totally stuffed my whole setup. Using GParted from a LiveCD I gave /var some more space and managed to get things back to normal. Running apt-get autoclean freed up 1.2GB of space! I've now put this into anachrontab to run every 4 days. This is the first time I've run unstable and didn't appreciate the huge amount of upgrades that happened. Hope this might help someone else avoid the hassle I have just had. Regards, John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tell ipod a recording is an 'audiobook'?
On 11:15 Mon 09 Jul , David Brodbeck wrote: On Jul 5, 2007, at 8:22 PM, Matt Price wrote: i'd like to convince the ipod that these tracks are not music but audiobooks (whatever that really means). does anyone know how to do this? if it can be done from amarok that's great, otherwise i can use whatever music player is required. There's a Windows utility that does this, called MP3 to iPod Audio Book Converter. If anyone knows of a Linux app that does the same thing, I'd like to hear about it. There is a simpler way. Just convert the MP3 to MP4a using any of the open source converters and then rename the files with a MP4b extension. The iPod should then set a bookmark when you stop playing and start again from the correct place. If it is just to differentiate between music and speech then tag the genre as Audiobook Regards, John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrade on box not on Net
On 16:02 Thu 05 Jul , Celejar wrote: On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 20:25:09 +0100 John K Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to upgrade a box not connected to the Internet? I run etch on my home desktop and sid on my laptop but I have a machine at work that is not, and never likely to be, connected to the internet. It currently has etch installed off the 3 DVD set which I downloaded via jigdo. I know I can create updated DVDs of etch using jigdo but how could I upgrade from etch to sid with no internet connection? Is this possible or even advisable? The main reason for wanting to upgrade is This is what the apt-zip package is for. Thanks for that - works fine. I have Martin Krafft's book The Debian System always at hand but could find no reference to apt-zip or any other way of solving my problem. Is apt-zip a fairly new package? Regards, John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Upgrade on box not on Net
Is it possible to upgrade a box not connected to the Internet? I run etch on my home desktop and sid on my laptop but I have a machine at work that is not, and never likely to be, connected to the internet. It currently has etch installed off the 3 DVD set which I downloaded via jigdo. I know I can create updated DVDs of etch using jigdo but how could I upgrade from etch to sid with no internet connection? Is this possible or even advisable? The main reason for wanting to upgrade is the huge difference in Open Office 2.0 to 2.2. Or could I just install OO2.2 over the stable package? Regards, John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to get Stumble Upon to work with Iceweasel, Any tips?
On 11:50 Thu 28 Jun , John W. Foster wrote: I like the Mozilla extension Stumble Upon. How is it possible to get it working with Iceweasel. According to what I have read, Iceweasel is basically Firefox (for Debian), Stumble Upon should install as an extension. When I recently upgraded my stable boxes from sarge to etch Stumble no longet was installed into iceweasel, though it is installed on the system. It just does not show up. Any tips?? Thanks! -- John W. Foster FWIW I've just installed Stumble Upon and it works fine. Etch with everything up to date on a standard install. Regards, John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Connect to DOS box
At work I use a networked box that runs from Novell Netware on DOS v5.0 This runs very old accounting software. The box itself is a P120 with 16 MB RAM and a small HD (about 128MB). No OS on the HD. I have managed to persuade the somewhat ITphobic management to provide me a standalone box on which to analyse the daily data. Obviously I have installed Debian Etch. Having written a few Python scripts to take the output of printed reports and parse them into an OO spreadsheet it is all coming together. However, to transfer the files I have to use a floppy disc. How can I connect the 2 boxes? The DOS box cannot boot from CD, has no installed OS (boots into network off floppy) and has only a serial connection spare. The network is 10BASE-2 thin ethernet. Regards, John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Connect to DOS box
On 13:07 Fri 22 Jun , Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 08:58:33PM +0100, John K Masters wrote: snip However, to transfer the files I have to use a floppy disc. How can I connect the 2 boxes? The DOS box cannot boot from CD, has no installed OS (boots into network off floppy) and has only a serial connection spare. The network is 10BASE-2 thin ethernet. /snip if you can somehow get on the same ethernet network, you might have luck with ncpfs, which provides some netware protocol stuff. I use it on one of my networks to connect to a point-of-sale system server that runs netware. otherwise I think you're in for some kind of null-modem thing off the serial port but don't ask me how... A Looks like that could be a partial solution. There is a spare terminal in my office and the 'IT Manager' is on 2 weeks leave. Regards, John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Connect to DOS box
On 15:09 Fri 22 Jun , Mike McCarty wrote: John K Masters wrote: [snip] However, to transfer the files I have to use a floppy disc. How can I connect the 2 boxes? The DOS box cannot boot from CD, has no installed OS (boots into network off floppy) and has only a serial connection spare. The network is 10BASE-2 thin ethernet. Smart Boot Manager can probably boot your machine from CDROM. Thanks, I'll try that. If I can boot a live CD I'm halfway there. Regards, John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wrapping workspace-switcher
How do I get the workspace switcher to wrap from workspace 6 to 1 when I do Ctl-Alt-Right? I noticed XFCE does this by default but I use Gnome and have not found a way to do this. Regards, John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wrapping workspace-switcher
On 20:37 Sun 27 May , Mathias Brodala wrote: Hi John. John K Masters, 27.05.2007 20:14: How do I get the workspace switcher to wrap from workspace 6 to 1 when I do Ctl-Alt-Right? I noticed XFCE does this by default but I use Gnome and have not found a way to do this. GNOME does not support something like this. You might want to try brightside. Thanks Mathias but to quote from the brightside/Debian blurb 'and is a nice alternative to keyboard shortcuts for the more mouse-oriented user.' I am specifically looking for something NOT mouse-centric. If my programming skills were better I might have a go at tweaking the source but I'm not confident enough for that yet. Regards, John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Location of http files?
On 12:28 Sun 13 May , Eric A. Bonney wrote: I have my server setup as a web server. I know it is working correctly since when I type in the ip address of the machine I get a page that displays It Works. So where do all the http file go that I want to be in the public area? I know on the server that is currently hosting my web sights they are in pub_html, but I don't see anything like that on my server. Thanks, -Eric /var/www Should be document root Regards, John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie help how to enlarge root partition
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 10:16:12 -0400 John Fleming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I've looked at fdisk and parted, but I need help. Do I need to start over copying my 40GB HDD to a properly-partitioned 160GB HDD, or can someone give me detailed instructions to expand my 40GB root partition to use the available free space on the new drive? Thanks - My current partitions are shown below. - John Debian Sarge snip Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/hda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1480138564001 83 Linux /dev/hda248024863 498015f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/hda548024863 497983+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris Command (m for help): Delete the swap and the extended partition, you should then be able to resize hda1 to, say, 158GB then create an extended partition and 2GB swap inside that. I've never tried it but it should work. Probably best to backup first though. John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Samba help (solved)
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:03:47 -0400 Jan Sneep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Interestingly from the Win Xp machine I can see a whole bunch of files and folders with names that start with a . that I can't see from the Gnome desktop. These are hidden files. Not shown by default in Gnome. You can see them by using the -a switch with ls or Ctl-H if using the Gnome GUI. Regards John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: question - howto use postfix+reportbug in order to send bug reports to debian.org
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:54:39 +0530 shirish agarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I am using Ubuntu 7.04 (please don't laugh) and at times I do report bugs. Sometimes I see that the bug-report is concerning upstream (some issue, usability bug or feature-list wish). Unlike bugs.launchpad.netwhich ubuntu has, the only way I came to know is one can report bugs to debian through an application called reportbug. After installing reportbug, making my bug-report came to know further that it needs an MTA. Digging further came to know that there are only 2 , postfix sendmail. As I am reading my mail on the web (Gmail) hence didn't no need to have an e-mail client (or MUA) hence became non-plussed. I am sure I am neither the 1st one to have this problem nor the last one. Hence instead of just posting for the howto of this in the mailing list, also have published it in ubuntuforums.org http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2463091#post2463091 . The main reason behind doing all this is there are not enough bug triagers around. Something like 30 for all the bugs which come around. So there is a possibility that such bugs do not get reported. Hence if we have a direct route to u guys it would make things that much more easier for all around. So post the answer at the forum itself so people can use it. There is also possibility of adding the whole thing to a wiki so people can use it to make bug-reports to debian as when needed. Less stress for everybody concerned. Cheers. Don't know about Ubuntu but Debian (usually) installs exim4 as MTA by default. Best to direct Ubuntu questions to Ubuntu lists as I believe they base their distro on Debian unstable. That is unstable as in 'likely to break at any time' Regards, John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography. Ambrose Bierce -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Adding new disc
I have just added a new 250GB disc to my etch setup. 4 partitions, all ext3. Changed /etc/fstab to mount to /music /data /images /shared. So far no problem but the new partitions show up on my desktop as 40.6 GB Volume, 56.4 GB Volume etc. I don't mind them showing on the desktop but how can I change the labels? Regards, John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Adding new disc
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 00:23:32 +0200 Sven Arvidsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 23:12 +0100, John K Masters wrote: I have just added a new 250GB disc to my etch setup. 4 partitions, all ext3. Changed /etc/fstab to mount to /music /data /images /shared. So far no problem but the new partitions show up on my desktop as 40.6 GB Volume, 56.4 GB Volume etc. I don't mind them showing on the desktop but how can I change the labels? I think you can use e2label for this. Thanks Sven - obviously I need to improve my Google skills :) John -- War is God's way of teaching Americans geography Ambrose Bierce (1842 - 1914) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:41:31 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 15:14, John Hasler wrote: Ron Johnson writes: We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the local store that doesn't taste like crumbly cardboard. I wrote: See? You're picky. Ron Johnson writes: Taste pickiness != snob pickiness. (Although snobs like to pretend it is.) Didn't say it was. However, if the cheapest bread you are willing to eat went up 1% in price, how likely would you be to switch to a cheaper brand? That's elasticity. O% if it's still the cheapest brand that the store sells. Remember that driving to another store takes time and gasoline, so you only go to a 2nd store if it's *really* worth your while. Not true unless you're on a very tight budget. As many are. Ask your wife whether she'd spend an extra 30 cents on bread from a brand she trusts. My wife buys the cheapest whole-wheat bread she can find (but she's exceptional). My wife buys the 2nd cheapest, because the cheapest is dry and crumbly, and I don't like dry crumbly bread. I prefer pumpernickel from Bohemian Ovens and french bread from LaBrea or The Creamery (can't afford either very often, though). Butting in here and I've only seen the last few posts but I'm on home ground as far as bread is concerned, more so than Debian (what happened to THAT thread?) I've been making my own bread for the last 15 years and, despite what you may think, it is not time consuming, it is easy and you do not need a breadmaking machine. The big advantage is that you know exactly what goes into the bread. Most of the bread you buy in shops has an excess of fat and sugar as these give it a longer shelf life. Making it yourself you can add extras as you feel like pumpkin seeds, sun-dried tomatoes, cheese and onion, or mix the amount of white and wholemeal flour. It really is no trouble to come home from work and make a loaf for the next day. Total time actually expending energy about 30 minutes; the rest waiting for the dough to rise. Also it can be very therapeutic kneading dough and imagining you are knocking the hell out of your boss or whoever. Regards, John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Installation on a cybercafe PC
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:43:50 +0530 Deboo ^ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because I need to burn CDs at times and as far as I have knowledge, Knoppix atleast won't let the CD out once booted. Regards, Deboo Try Puppy Linux - runs completely in RAM so is fast and allows easy CD burning. http://www.puppylinux.org/ -- John K Masters - User #417400 in the Linux Counter http://counter.li.org/ No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a dumb query? pls humor me
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:40:57 +0200 Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:09:40 -0500 Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I know that they all use the metric system. Hell, my father is married to a Brit. But I always forget that they use it, and I Where do you think the Imperial system comes from? Regards, Andrei Don't forget the US gallon is different to the Imperial gallon From Wikipedia:- There are three definitions in current use: * U.S. liquid gallon is legally defined as 231 in³, which is equal to 3.785411784 liters (exactly) or about 0.13368 cubic feet. This is the most common definition of a gallon. The U.S. fluid ounce is defined as 1/128 of a U.S. gallon. * U.S. dry gallon is one-eighth of a U.S. Winchester bushel of 2150.42 in³, thus 268.8025 in³ (exactly) or 4.40488377086 liters (exactly) * Imperial (UK) gallon is legally defined as 4.54609 litres, which is about 1.2 U.S. liquid gallons. This definition is occasionally used in United Kingdom, and is based on the volume of 10 pounds of water at 62 °F. (A U.S. liquid gallon weighs about 8.33 pounds at the same temperature.) The Imperial fluid ounce is defined as 1/160 of an Imperial gallon. -- John K Masters - User #417400 in the Linux Counter http://counter.li.org/ No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
Re: Newbie Question: Debian and iTunes
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 08:52:31 -0500 Jan Sneep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and for the second part to my question ... How about iTunes for loading songs onto their iPods? At the moment they use my Windows Xp machine to fill up their iPods, because of course iTunes doesn't run on ME. I have to re-boot my machine after they're done because some iTunes service just grinds my processor down to a walk through molasses. It would be great if they could use their own machine to load up their iPods, however looking at the iTunes site I don't see a Linux version available for download. I figure there must be at least a few of you that have an iPod and have figured out how to load up tunes with your Debian OS? Any suggestions / recommendations / warnings would be appreciated. http://www.gtkpod.org/about.html Takes a bit of getting used to after iTunes but I like it. Regards -- John K Masters - User #417400 in the Linux Counter http://counter.li.org/ No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: removing sound-juicer
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 12:34:59 -0800 Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 08:58:05PM +0100, David Jardine wrote: [snip] If I understand the meta-package concept right, the meta-package depends on the real packages, but nothing depends on the meta-package. Removing it would therefore have no side-effects. Or have I got it wrong? On surface I think you're right unless you get into the auto/manual package tagging in aptitude. I'll admit that I don't fully understand it within the context of aptitude, but AIUI... install a package called dep3, it is marked as manually installed and will be left alone by aptitude. install meta1, that meta-package is marked as manually installed so aptitude will not remove it without explicit instructions. meta1 depends on dep1, dep2, dep3. dep1 and 2 get installed and aptitude marks them all as automatically installed. dep3 is already installed, fine. now install meta2 which depends on dep2 and dep4. Now dep2 is already installed, but not dep4 which gets pulled in and also marked as automatically installed. Now you have: meta 1-manual dep1 -auto dep2 -auto dep3 -manual meta 2-manual dep2 -auto dep4 -auto So later when you remove meta1, aptitude goes through all its dependencies and checks to see if anything *else* depends on them too. It looks at dep1 and sees that nothing else is depending on it and its marked as automatically installed so marks it for removal. Next it looks at dep2 and sees that meta2 depends on it and leaves it. Finally it looks at dep3 and sees nothing depending on it, but it is marked as manually installed and leaves is alone. Likewise, another scenario using the same packages as above: I'm done with dep3, not realising meta1 depends on it, I remove it. This breaks meta1, so meta1 gets marked for removal as well cascading to dep1 and dep2 (which stays because meta2 uses it). I don't know how accurate that all is, but that's how I view it and it seems to keep me out of trouble. A So would I be correct in saying that using aptitude is safe, using apt-get is safe, just don't mix the two? Regards -- John K Masters - User #417400 in the Linux Counter http://counter.li.org/ No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: removing sound-juicer
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:51:52 -0800 Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 11:36:08PM +0100, Mathias Brodala wrote: [snip] Sound Juicer is one of those dependencies and so the gnome-desktop-environment package can obviously not being kept if you want to remove it. but watch out. It may try to pull out your whole gui. If you installed gnome-desktop-environment using aptitude then all its dependencies are marked as automatic and may get yanked as well. Go in an mark the first level down from gnome-desktop-env. as manually installed... A chickenI haven't tried anything yet./chicken I'm using apt-get as I've never really got along with aptitude. Installation was done with a netinstall CD and just desktop environment chosen. Not that bothered about keeping or removing sound-juicer but would just like to keep things tidy. Regards -- John K Masters - User #417400 in the Linux Counter http://counter.li.org/ No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: removing sound-juicer
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 14:15:02 -0800 Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 09:01:29PM +, John K Masters wrote: chickenI haven't tried anything yet./chicken I'm using apt-get as I've never really got along with aptitude. Installation was done with a netinstall CD and just desktop environment chosen. Not that bothered about keeping or removing sound-juicer but would just like to keep things tidy. in that case, relax. you *should* notice that removing sound-juicer removes a package called gnome-desktop-environment but that should be about it. As long as it isn't also removing thinks like xserver-xorg-core or other equally scary packages, you'll be fine. gnome-desktop-environment is a meta-package. It doesn't not acutally contain anything, but it depends on a bunch of other stuff that will build a full desktop environment. By removing one of these pieces, you no longer satisfy all the dependencies for that meta-package so it gets removed too. But, the *rest* ofthe dependencies from that meta-package should remain intact. Thanks! Seems to have worked Just read carefully before you hit 'y'. I (nearly) always do. Just a thought. Being informed that gnome-desktop-environment is being removed would tend to scare the pants off most people, me included. Would it not be better to call these meta-packages something like gnome-desktop-environment-meta or important-sounding-package-safetoremove. Just my 0.03 euros worth. Regards -- John K Masters - User #417400 in the Linux Counter http://counter.li.org/ No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
removing sound-juicer
I have been running etch for a few weeks now and am very happy. However, after trying a couple of CD ripping programs I decided to stick with grip. On trying to remove sound-juicer apt informs me it will also remove gnome-desktop-environment. Is this correct? If I have to keep sound-juicer then how can I prevent it starting up every time I load a CD? Regards -- John K Masters - User #417400 in the Linux Counter http://counter.li.org/ No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Local webserver for testing, needed
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:50:34 +0100 Niels Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list In Windows there is a utility called WAMP, which stands for: Windows+Apache+MySQL+PHP It was quite nice to use for testing PHP-apps locally before uploading to my domain. I dont want to install a fullblown webserver just to check if my pages looks all right, before uploading. Does such a utility exist for use with debian (or something similar) ? I've read about LAMP but cant find it in the repositories :-/ http://slampp.abangadek.com/wiki/HomePage Regards -- John K Masters - User #417400 in the Linux Counter http://counter.li.org/ No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)
On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 14:20:15 -0600 Dustin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Debian is a rock solid operating system that is best used for servers, or by experienced users that know how to shape it into a flexible desktop. I personally think this is an excellent image to have. The reason there are so many Debian-based distros out there is because it is a solid base. That is also why so many mission critical servers seem to use Debian. Of course Debian is also known as being a purist distro, the most free of all. To cater to a lot of new users that are unfamiliar with Linux, some things seem to get thrown in. Example: MEPIS and Ubuntu seem have a lot of drivers thrown in that maybe aren't as open as they could be. This is a sacrifice they make to cater to the new user. I, in no way intend to push away a new user to Linux, I am all for it. However, it may just be my perception of things, but I think that Debian should continue to be Debian, rock solid and committed to being done the right (entirely open) way, and not the quick way. As users gain experience with Debian-based systems, they will find themselves wanting more, and they will come to Debian. You have to sharpen your teeth a little at a time, starting with something soft, and working up to the solid stuff. Debian is that solid stuff, and I think that it is best to keep following the same line it always has. Make it as easy to use as possible, yes. Water it down to make it easier, no. -Dustin Totally agree 100%. I run 3 internet servers, command line only, 2 using sarge and the latest (non-critical) using etch. I have also just installed etch on my desktop at home, GUI with Gnome. Have had no problems (well, apart from my balls ups) with any of them. Over the years I have tried, in rough order of installation, Red Hat, SuSe, Mandrake, Slackware, Gentoo, Ubuntu and Sabayon. There were others (OK I'm a Linux slut). I still have a soft spot for Slack but Debian just does it for me. Anyhow, I found the latest etch installed effortlessly and, with a few minor exceptions, worked 'out of the box'. Regards -- John K Masters - User #417400 in the Linux Counter http://counter.li.org/ No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)
On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 16:35:22 -0500 Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 04:28:44PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: I always thought you were supposed to respond to messages as Reply All, but I'll get out of that habit. Sorry about that. Most decent mail programs have a list reply button or function that correctly identifies the mailing list and sends the reply to only the list. Regards, -Roberto Using icedove at the moment, can you suggest to me a better mail client to use for mailing list *and* personal email on the same account? (I have Icedove/Thunderbird set to filter out all mail with @lists.debian.org to my Debian mailing list folder, and then from there automatically sort which mailing list it's from.) For a decent graphical mail client you can't beat Sylpheed-Claws. Handles threading really well and is very customisable when you get under the hood. Regards PS if you have the time and patience try Mutt -- John K Masters - User #417400 in the Linux Counter http://counter.li.org/ No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PHP4 or 5
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:59:24 -0500 Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 12:28:16AM -0800, Kevin Ross wrote: PHP 5 is *significantly* faster than PHP 4. Unless you have a compelling reason to use PHP 4, go with 5. Really? I recall reading somewhere the PHP5 was absolute pig when it came to memory. Personally, I only use PHP on one website I develop (the hosting provider doesn't have Python available) and some of my servers that run phppgadmin and horde. But I would be concerned about it. Regards, -Roberto Speed is not a problem, memory could be. This is a VPS with VERY limited resources. However, I do not envisage more than 20 mail users, max 3000 emails per day and a few pages of static HTML. Piping all mail through procmail to spamassassin running on a different server. No SQL/CMS. PHP is required purely for Squirrelmail. Regards -- John K Masters - User #417400 in the Linux Counter http://counter.li.org/ No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PHP4 or 5
I have just setup a mail server on Etch using Postfix and Courier. Would like to offer users webmail via Squirrelmail. Do I install PHP4 or 5? Any comments welcome. -- John K Masters - User #417400 in the Linux Counter http://counter.li.org/ No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PHP4 or 5
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:01:06 -0500 Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to 'apt-cache show squirrelmail' (for sid), the current 2 packages (1.4.9a-1 and 1.5.1-4) support php4 or php5. Check the result for 'etch' (which is still 'testing'). Here is the related info: -- Version: 2:1.4.9a-1 Depends: apache2 | httpd, libapache2-mod-php4 | libapache-mod-php4 | php4 | php4-cgi | libapache2-mod-php5 | libapache-mod-php5 | php5-cgi | php5, perl -- Version: 2:1.5.1-4 Depends: apache2 | httpd, libapache2-mod-php4 | libapache-mod-php4 | php4 | php4-cgi | libapache2-mod-php5 | libapache-mod-php5 | php5-cgi | php5, perl -- cheers, Kev Yep! That's why I'm asking. When offered a choice I like to weigh up other users experiences. Does latest = best or not so stable? ATEOTD I'll probably go with PHP5 but I'd like to hear if others have some horror stories first. Regards -- John K Masters - User #417400 in the Linux Counter http://counter.li.org/ No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian/NT Dual Boot?
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 14:42:42 -0800 Mitchell Verter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am hoping that someone can direct me to the best instructions on the web for setting up a dual-boot system running Debian and NT. Most of the HOW-TOs I've looked at assume that you already have Windows running; my case is the reverse. The computer already has Debian and LILO running. If I want to put NT on the computer too, would I just partition the disk (how do you partition in linux?) and then install NT on the new partition and expect LILO to notice? Thanks, Mitch It can be done but it is very, very convoluted. Windows always likes to overwrite the MBR which means you will lose GRUB or LILO. You can reinstall GRUB (I've not tried it with LILO) and then edit menu.lst to point to your Windows installation. This may or may not work depending on which side of the bed Bill Gates got out of today :) Good Luck -- John K Masters - User #417400 in the Linux Counter http://counter.li.org/ No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Compact flash repair
On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 17:21:35 +0100 Sven Arvidsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2007-01-06 at 14:10 +, John K Masters wrote: Obviously the FAT is corrupt. Is there any hope of recovering this or is he out of luck? This might be worth a try, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/420 Thanks; looks good but estimates 254+ hours to finish so I'll let you know next week whether it worked. Regards -- John K Masters - User #417400 in the Linux Counter http://counter.li.org/ No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Compact flash repair
A workmate has asked me to try and recover some photos on a corrupt 512MB compact flash card. The card is /dev/sda and I have tried the following: :~$ dd if=/dev/sda of=image.img bs=512 I stopped this when the image.img file got to about 5GB :~$ fdisk /dev/sda This informs me that I need to set the no. of cylinders. Partition info shows 4 partitions all starting on the same boundary. I tried a Windows recovery program and this showed the disk to be 2 TB in size. Scanning for 12 hours gave 1% completion and no files found. Obviously the FAT is corrupt. Is there any hope of recovering this or is he out of luck? -- John K Masters - User #417400 in the Linux Counter http://counter.li.org/ No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Perl Programming within Debian
On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 15:49:08 -0500 Leonid Grinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, several things: Perl does NOT encourage bad behavior. It simply makes it easier to code poorly. Perl is not as difficult to learn as people say it is. The best place to start would be Google. That is how I learned it. The package ``perl'' will have the interpreter. The package perl-doc will have the command ``perldoc'' (yes, the package has a dash - the program does not). perldoc has lots of nice documentation. I suggest getting ``Learning Perl'' and ``The Perl Cookbook'' if you can. Also, sign up for the mailing list beginners@perl.org where many nice people will help you use the language. I just looked on http://lists.cpan.org/ and there were 266 mailing lists related to Perl. This shows how popular it is but can also be off-putting for a newcomer to the language. Which list to choose? Several are for beginners. I purchased the O'Reilly book Learning Perl and it is the only O'Reilly book I have ever regretted buying. The examples are contrived and confusing; the authors seem more concerned with being humorous then with being educational. OTOH the O'Reilly book Learning Python was clear, concise and informative which is one reason why I now use Python (still learning) Any extension works, but .pl is conventional for command line. Sometimes, people give it no extension at all. For web servers, either .cgi or .pl are usually used. Good luck! Feel free to email me if you have any questions! At the end of the day it's whatever you feel most comfortable with. -- John K Masters - User #417400 in the Linux Counter http://counter.li.org/ No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mutt still sees expired apache certificate
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 18:43:19 + Dave Ewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday, 11.11.2006 at 13:04 +, Maurits van Rees wrote: Hi, The apache certificate for my mail server expired recently, so I created a new one. When I go to that mail server via de squirrelmail web interface, the new certificate is displayed. But when I go to the server with mutt, it shows me the old certificate and rightfully says: WARNING: Server certificate has expired I can now reject it or allow it once, but no matter what I do, the next time I start mutt it still complains about the old certificate. BTW, when I accept it once, I can login fine. Is there something in mutt I can do to make mutt forget about that old certificate and ask the server for the current one? Or should I do something on the server? Apache has been reloaded and/or restarted and shows the correct certificate via the webmail interface, so I *think* it is fine. I suspect the problem is that Mutt doesn't *use* the web interface! Mutt must be using either POP3/SSL or IMAP/SSL if it has been configured to use SSL: you need to fix the POP3 or IMAP certificate, in that case, not just Apache. Dave. Mutt doesn't use POP3/IMAP/SSL or anything like that. It purely reads local mailboxes. I suggest you look at the MTA you are using. Postfix, sendmail, whatever. -- John K Masters - User #417400 in the Linux Counter http://counter.li.org/ No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terrible inconvenienced. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mutt still sees expired apache certificate
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 21:28:39 +0100 Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mutt doesn't use POP3/IMAP/SSL or anything like that. It purely reads local mailboxes. I suggest you look at the MTA you are using. Postfix, sendmail, whatever. $ apt-cache show mutt | egrep 'IMAP|POP3' * Advanced IMAP client supporting SSL encryption and SASL authentication. * POP3 support. o Advanced IMAP client supporting SSL encryption and SASL authentication. o POP3 support. My apologies. When I last looked mutt had no support for POP/IMAP and the times I have used mutt I have had to install postfix/procmail/fetchmail to get it working, which is why I went back to sylpheed. Might have another look. -- John K Masters - User #417400 in the Linux Counter http://counter.li.org/ No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terrible inconvenienced. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's your favourite FLOSS?
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:12:46 +0200 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, A year ago, I asked debian-user about favourite applications. The big winners in that thread were GIMP, Firefox, K3b, gThumb, and Thunderbird. I would like to start it again, and I would like those who are get bored by this to please pardon me. Here goes my new list (If you don't use certain things, please leave the brackets blank like I did for audio editor, instead of leaving them occupied with previous entries; this is to make the counting more accurate): I only use Debian on my remote web servers so no GUI stuff * audio editor [ ] * audio player [ ] * cd-ripper [ ] * Desktop Environment [ ] * DBMS [MySQL ] * development [ Python, Zope ] * disc burner [ ] * e-mail client [ ] * file manager [ ] * finance [ ] * ftp [ vsftpd ] * image editor [ ] * image viewer [ ] * instant messenger [ ] * mathematics [ ] * misc utilities [grep, top, wget ] * p2p [ ] * package manager [ apt ] * pdf-reader [ ] * spreadsheet [ ] * tag editor [ ] * terminal emulator [ ] * text editor [ vi ] * 3D animation [ ] * video player [ ] * web browser [ ] * word-processor [ ] * (unreleased) [ ] * (great honours) [ GCC, GLibC, Linux, Bash ] John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
