Re: Poll - What Smartphone do you use?
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 20:35, giovanni_re john...@fastmail.us wrote: Isn't it great to get to know your Debian community members, things about them, like what kind of stuff they use? Maybe that would be good stuff for _you_ to get at some point. :) = So, today's poll is: What Smartphone do you use? Please reply to this message with: Manufacturer name Model name, OS name, Cell Carrier name, Country you live in. N900, Maemo5/OS2008, TMo, USA Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTi=yxwyjdasagrysdjcfi36g7qn...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Poll - What Smartphone do you use?
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 14:46, Brad Alexander stor...@gmail.com wrote: Ditto. Have an N900 and an N810. It is a brick, but small price to pay for a hardware keyboard. Have you looked in to the Community Seamless Software Update (CSSU) project? It is community project that has taken over for Nokia's bundle of support fail. One of the features of the CSSU is to provide rotation to most if not all apps. CSSU can be found on the Maemo wiki at http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU Thanks for that, I just got mine a week ago, so I am still learning it and finding new software. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTimJJWhgmFDSGEabtpQLGZ=M=dv...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Command history
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 23:51, Vangelis Katsikaros ibo...@yahoo.gr wrote: On 04/28/2011 02:25 AM, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: shawn wilson wrote: Is there a way to have a command that does not show up in history? Or a way to pipe a string where the string doesn't show up in history? Ie, I set some passwords with: echo some string and stuff ¦ sha512sum (Probably with cut and awk and other such things) And I'd like a way for my system to not store my password scheme. I'd prefer something better than editing my history file. In bash, If I prepend the command with a space character, it does not show up in the ~/.bash_history file. This happens if in .bashrc you set the shell variable HISTCONTROL to include the value ignorespace. See man bash example: HISTCONTROL=ignoredups:ignorespace Or HISTCONTROL=ignoreboth Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktik_pmcgkyc81b5oo_nth48gz1j...@mail.gmail.com
Re: file systems
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:45, prad p...@towardsfreedom.com wrote: we are thinking of redoing our existing servers and workstations in june. our servers is low volume and run out of our home via cable. right now the servers are running freebsd and our personal machines use arch linux, but we'd like to unify everything onto debian because a) we've liked it in the past b) we like the social contract c) we appreciate the no-nonsense attitude about 'free' we are contemplating the fs to use: ext4 (which we've used for a couple of years) zfs (we've heard this is really good) btrfs (ditto - though it's still 'new' and 'lacking' features) are there any feelings or recommendations regarding the above? ZFS on Linux is either FUSE, which is slow, or native but not ready for prime time (version 0.6 for the more mature port) btrfs is not ready for production yet. Really Ext4 or perhaps JFS/XFS is it for probably at least a year or a few. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTimnCWN-5Lk0rWBY5KaH1c77cT=p...@mail.gmail.com
Re: file systems
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 13:52, Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote: On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: If it makes any difference to you, I _think_ that there's a windows program that will read ext3; I know it will read ext2. I haven't heard of one that reads ext4. If you don't care about windows, ext4 seems to work fine. (You can read the windows directories from Linux and even cop;y to them, just not the other way around.) Linux Support for NTFS writing, while supported, is still dangerous ... I've trashed or had trashed more then one NTFS partition just from a simple copy to that partition. Interesting, I haven't had ntfs-3g eat a FS in...ever, actually. I know I had troubles one of the earlier implementations, losing data or at least a chkdsk being forced. I sometimes have a Windows partition, and sometimes format USB sticks that way (need to try to get UDF working again...), and I don't even spare a thought for the possibility of corruption. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTi=svnone64tvs2ofv7+ucrfjw0...@mail.gmail.com
Re: CD burning programs with verification
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 10:36, David Sastre d.sastre.med...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 11:15:16AM -0500, Jason Hsu wrote: I'm looking for a program in the Debian repository that offers verification but with few dependencies. I use my own antiX-derived distro called Swift Linux (www.swiftlinux.org) as my main distro, but I dual boot with Puppy Linux. Puppy Linux comes standard with iso2cd and PBurn, but those applications are specific to Puppy Linux. I don't like the GnomeBaker program that comes standard in antiX Linux and need a replacement. GnomeBaker doesn't offer a verification feature. I know that XFCE and KDE have their own CD burning programs, but those programs have lots of dependencies. So what CD burning programs do you like that have verification and do NOT have lots of dependencies (like the XFCE and KDE tools)? wodim + sha256sum I agree, this seems like the most straightforward way of doing it (although for this purpose, md5 would probably be fine) Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTimVOug+F7dEx3Xvv=mzmsg4off...@mail.gmail.com
Re: obtaining copy of debian
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 05:27, Rob Owens row...@ptd.net wrote: On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 07:22:34AM -0400, Whit Hansell wrote: Re Windows and ISO's. 'Doze don't do ISO's. IOW you can't use a native Windows MS product to burn ISO's to CD. There is a free program out there, can't remember the name, that you can use. It's infra recorder. I've used it before and it does burn ISOs. Yeah, it's a good one, and one of the only Open Source recorders for Windows. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTi)gw-xxqb0tmjftz9mwfatxq...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian was hacked: The Canterbury Distribution (howto write the date)
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 02:06, Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com wrote: Out of curiosity - I've attached a (tiny) screenscrape of how a post appears in Thunderbird (yeah I know, but the rest of things are Debian). I guess the date format on the left is from the list, and the one on the right is from my system... are my assumptions correct? Also - is that how others have their dates displayed? The date in the email is created by the *senders* MUA. In some MUAs at least, you can change how it gets written out. I think many MUAs default this to the long date format from (sender's) locale. The other is set by *your* MUA, and it is probably set to time or short date for your locale by default. On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 02:24, Heddle Weaver weaver2wo...@gmail.com wrote: The logical progression, in the English language and not the American dialect, is 'day' of the 'month' of the specified 'year'. dd/mm/yy. This is obvious. Anything else is the calender equivalent of top-posting. No, little-endian is always the equivalent of top posting (middle-endian (American date style) is just madness). Is the month or the exact day relevant if you are off by years? Just as numerical representation in little-endian is backwards. If you write one hundred forty five as 541, it makes no sense. 5 is not very important compared to one hundred, so why put it at the beginning? Oh, and the only possible excuse for yy instead of is if you where writing before the year one hundred, although even then it should have been clear that that wouldn't be useful for long. Actually, A.D./B.C. wasn't created until 525, so that isn't possible in our calendar system. Hmm, I wonder if any calendar system has been in use since it's own year one? Probably only ones based on kings' reigns. And while we are at it, we should probably give some thought to the future and extend our years to at least y (e.g. 02011 for this year). That would at least give us nearly ninety-eight thousand years instead of a mere eight thousand. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktimh6scr3uvtbauk5gzkdnjyag6...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian was hacked: The Canterbury Distribution (howto write the date)
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 10:10, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: handwriting What's that? Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktinfdxr+2wypi-aelhkr4prh-ok...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian was hacked: The Canterbury Distribution
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 20:24, Freeman hew...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 05:16:37AM +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: Hello List, right now, the Official Debian site seems hacked by The Canterbury Distribution. I guess it is a joke. 04/01/11 ! January 11th, 2004? huh? Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktineftk7xcpmduocpaaagju+fdnlhk-danqqo...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian was hacked: The Canterbury Distribution
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 07:12, green greenfreedo...@gmail.com wrote: Aaron Toponce wrote at 2011-04-01 08:11 -0500: For international mailing lists, if you stick with ISO 8601, there should be no ambiguity in the date: 2011-04-01 or 20110401 is defined as April 1, 2011, or truncated as 11-04-01 or 110401. Standards. Who would have thought? Precisely. I'm in the US, but I always write dates like that. AOL Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimotuxkiqlgiq02hvwaanyo7shcqfiqvfnly...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian was hacked: The Canterbury Distribution (howto write the date)
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 20:23, Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/04/11 13:50, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 07:12, green greenfreedo...@gmail.com wrote: Aaron Toponce wrote at 2011-04-01 08:11 -0500: For international mailing lists, if you stick with ISO 8601, there should be no ambiguity in the date: 2011-04-01 or 20110401 is defined as April 1, 2011, or truncated as 11-04-01 or 110401. Standards. Who would have thought? Precisely. I'm in the US, but I always write dates like that. AOL Cheers, Kelly Clowers Why not use the Debian standard?? day-of-week, dd month hh:mm:ss + Too verbose, not sortable Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=gt6yaht+hf2bjgebnnswcgywh5lgcj8__j...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Console news aggregator: snownews with atom2rss
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 14:27, Freeman hew...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 02:02:51PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: I'm having trouble getting snownews to accept an atom feed. I found an atom-to-rss converter here: http://kiza.kcore.de/software/snownews/snowscripts/extensions/script/atom2rss/ Here is test code for a filter: curl http://blogs.perl.org/atom.xml | xsltproc ~/.snownews/atom2rss.xml - This gives me an RDF document (see below, items pruned to one) Now I try to do this in snownews entry for the URL using the 'e' command. Re-reading the feed with 'r' shows nothing, although there's a delay that suggests content was downloaded, if nothing else. It has been years and I only have one atom feed left Left? I have more Atom feeds than ever. And if you add in those weird RSS+Atom feeds that feedburner and other produce, I hardly have any RSS feeds left (thank goodness). I won't be switching from snownews till I have to pry my cold dead fingers off of it. Why is that? I never used it, but I use Newsbeuter, and they seem pretty comparable. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTin@yeyfmjtajh0auk+9p0bd9cgpqy7y-r0...@mail.gmail.com
Re: SIP services and softphones: what do you guys use?
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 01:24, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 9:17 AM, John A. Sullivan III jsulli...@opensourcedevel.com wrote: Interesting. I can see KDE applications if they are based upon Qt4 or were compiled using the commercial Qt3. I wasn't aware that Gnome apps could run without Cygwin and thought that most simply silently bundled it but may very well be wrong. Are you sure it isn't running Cygwin under the covers? There are many GTK apps that can run natively on Windows, without the need of any Cygwin installation. To name a few: Geany, Linphone, Midori. Evince is one I use all the time. As for Ekiga: http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Building_Ekiga_for_Windows No Cygwin there. GTK is cross-platform after all. I suspect that once Gnome 3 is settled down a bit, we will see the appearance of a full Gnome desktop suite for Windows, same as KDE4. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTimqCigLjYJjRWhYfV4TiJo0P56dkGWo6J53=1...@mail.gmail.com
Re: SIP services and softphones: what do you guys use?
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 13:53, John A. Sullivan III jsulli...@opensourcedevel.com wrote: If I recall correctly, the question was about Windows solutions. Many of those suggested are Linux only. I don't know about Ekiga but my guess would be it is running on cygwin which introduces a considerable shim between Ekiga and the native Windows IP stack. I would think that could introduce some latency and some complexity. Something native like might be much safer - John Like many KDE and Gnome programs, Ekiga runs natively on Windows: http://ekiga.net/yannick/win32/ekiga-setup-3.2.7.exe Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktin+yxzxvbry_3zm3i+lhdt+k4owowqoshsc6...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [Semi-OT] Advice on whether a C++ book is still adequate
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 20:46, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: Hi, I have the dusty book Teach Yourself C++ 4th Ed by Al Stevens, from... 1995 and wonder that if I go thru it will I screw myself up because of new language features. I don't know much about C++, but I remember how much Mozilla said their C++ coding changed from the old stuff (~1999) to the newer. They said much of the old code was considered ok at the time, but was just awful now. There was some specific feature (exceptions maybe? not sure at all) that they had rolled themselves and they where doing a lot of work to switch to the newer, standardized way, as well as other general clean up. All in all what I take from it is that it isn't so much the features, but how they are used. I think C++ just wasn't a really mature language till the early 2000s Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTindF9XvO=tbih5t7ro4w5xwcnhpodqrnn-zi...@mail.gmail.com
Re: nepomukuser
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 03:15, Paul Cartwright deb...@pcartwright.com wrote: On 02/21/2011 12:14 AM, Kelly Clowers wrote: GNOME and Nepomuk. Tracker is like Strigi+Nepomuk: the metadata store and access layer is in the same application as the indexing tool. The tracker indexer could , in theory, be used to feed data to Nepomuk - they both use the ontologies that came out of the Nepomuk project (of which Nepomuk-KDE is just an implementation) . Xesam was at one time going to be the cross-desktop search interface, so user apps wouldn't need to care if they searched Tracker or Nepomuk, but it seems to have died (they also had ontologies competing with Nepomuk's, but that was dropped even earlier). is this what you are talking about tracker: ii libtracker-client-0.8-0 0.8.17-1 metadata database, indexer and search tool - library ii libtrackerclient0 0.6.6-2 metadata database, indexer and search tool - library Yeah, that's part of it. Debian is way behind, still on 0.8, when 0.10 is almost ready. I don't have the gui or any other tracker apps installed. not that I want them.. I always use: find / -name blah -print Well, I don't use Tracker much either, but I want to write a music player that uses it instead of building it's own DB. Find is great for a lot of things, and all some people need, but Tracker can do things find never dreamed of. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=vgzq+pz0bvg4br75adreahpaxc6byuuzih...@mail.gmail.com
Re: nepomukuser
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 06:47, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 08:47:20 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote: On 02/20/2011 08:06 AM, Camaleón wrote: in gnome menu, System-Preferences-System Settings-Advanced-Desktop search I can't see that menu :-? gnome menu System preferences system settings click the advanced tab click on desktop search I don't have such a menu entry (system settings) in a pure GNOME environment. It sound to me like a KDE setting, could it be? Yes, System Settings is KDE's Control Panel. On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 05:06, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: I thought GNOME was using Tracker as their default indexing search engine, dunno what is the current level of integration (if any) between GNOME and Nepomuk. Tracker is like Strigi+Nepomuk: the metadata store and access layer is in the same application as the indexing tool. The tracker indexer could , in theory, be used to feed data to Nepomuk - they both use the ontologies that came out of the Nepomuk project (of which Nepomuk-KDE is just an implementation) . Xesam was at one time going to be the cross-desktop search interface, so user apps wouldn't need to care if they searched Tracker or Nepomuk, but it seems to have died (they also had ontologies competing with Nepomuk's, but that was dropped even earlier). Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=zay4kmrc2qsxpbkevurna1wpsa7a2xfpdv...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] E-mail formatting (was: Squeeze how to use networked printer?)
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 05:16, Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk wrote: On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 12:51:02 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Camaleón, I would try it if I can but I am not receiving e-mails from this list to my Gmail account. Does anyone know how to request to this mailing list server a message? It won't help; Google won't echo your mails back to you when you post to a mailing list. They appear in the All Mail folder, but never in the inbox. Google call it a feature. Nigh on everyone else calls it a bug. Google will not alter this behaviour. For that reason (amongst others) it is as well to remember that gmail != email. Why would want a list email in your inbox anyway? Folders and rules exist for a reason. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinhi6ws8fuqeanih+gcqm1fkqq3nyum8rt+k...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] E-mail formatting
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 14:22, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 02/12/2011 03:38 PM, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 05:16, Brad Rogersb...@fineby.me.uk wrote: On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 12:51:02 + (UTC) Camaleónnoela...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Camaleón, I would try it if I can but I am not receiving e-mails from this list to my Gmail account. Does anyone know how to request to this mailing list server a message? It won't help; Google won't echo your mails back to you when you post to a mailing list. They appear in the All Mail folder, but never in the inbox. Google call it a feature. Nigh on everyone else calls it a bug. Google will not alter this behaviour. For that reason (amongst others) it is as well to remember that gmail != email. Why would want a list email in your inbox anyway? Folders and rules exist for a reason. Cheers, Kelly Clowers Well, we've gone around and around with this before, but the obvious reason is so that you know the mail actually _made it_ to the list. If i really want to know that badly, I'll go look it up on gmane or something. I don't know why anyone would use GMail when you can use a more friendly one like Thunderbird. Or KMail, if you run a KDE system. HA! Despite problems like lack Reply to List, rule creation being much more annoying than it needs to be, etc, I long for a local app that is even close to as nice as GMail. Maybe NotMuch, once it matures... Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTinNsVJb-=r2o3b_jmbhozgcmczgjs-w4uk0f...@mail.gmail.com
Re: https is faster on amd64?
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 03:28, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 06 Feb 2011 02:14:37 -0800, kellyremo wrote: http://devcentral.f5.com/weblogs/macvittie/archive/2011/01/31/dispelling-the-new-ssl-myth.aspx He, he... what a good article, worth reading for those who want to SSL- ize all the web :-) according to the SSL Performance table it says that the transactions per second is 2-3 times better using 64bit kernels opposite to 32bit kernels? is this true, or i am just misunderstanding something I would expect that it is so. 64-bits are usually recommended for high computationally intensive tasks, like encryption. I wonder if it is the actual 64 bits or the doubling of the registers that makes it faster (or both). Of course Sandy Bridge has AES-NI, which will speed it up a lot if you are using that algorithm. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTikM9uT2iYi+NFkLn=r7mgvp1pl+vorw0yrz6...@mail.gmail.com
Re: why is the RIGHT ALT key ignored?
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 02:52, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: Why in emacs, iceweasel, etc. is RIGHT ALT ignored? LEFT ALT is processed as ALT, but RIGHT ALT is treated like I didn't press it. xev shows that indeed my keyboard is not broken, KeyPress event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x1a1, root 0x119, subw 0x0, time 5852895, (169,-14), root:(173,546), state 0x0, keycode 108 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift), same_screen YES, ISO_Level3_Shift AKA AltGr Either that is explicitly set somewhere, or you are using a keymap (e.g. US_Intl) that includes it. It should let you type stuff like áéæ©ñµ (altgr+ a, e, z, c, n, m respectively), or possibly it is a compose key (e.g. hold altgr and press a and then e = æ) or a dead key (altgr+a, let go, press e = æ). Wait, even on the console outside of x-windows it's that way! What's going on? On modern setups, X and the Console can share a common keyboard config. (/etc/default/keyboard with the console-setup package) Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktike0q43mflec2o+p2c-drmxide69name5dfn...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Oh no, not partitioning again!
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 17:32, PMA peterarmstr...@aya.yale.edu wrote: Hi List. I plan to install Squeeze pretty soon, and am reviewing my old decisions re disk partitioning. I will mainly resize proportionally to my 'df -k' output's Used column. But two items puzzle me: /srv I gather this is important to have, Not really, unless you run a server and want to serve stuff from there. I use /srv for my file share, www space, git, etc. but I have yet to find anything *in* it. Will Squeeze put stuff in there if I haven't expressly told it too? Nope. /tmp As a rule of thumb -- i.e., special considerations notwithstanding -- what do you think of making this the same size as /var? That has worked out for me, but I usually have plenty of room. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktim3cxzawu4zl5dswsm3y40riug2zupb6jxwn...@mail.gmail.com
Re: OT: Make Windows act like Debian and copy text just by marking it
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 03:01, Daniel Andersson l...@daniel-gr-andersson.com wrote: Hi all, Can anyone recommend a program that allows me to make Windows to act like as Debian and copy text just by marking it? It would lessen the annoyance of switching to Windows :) I feel your pain. The two ways I have found are AutoHotKey scripts, which is a really hacky method, and True X-Mouse[1]. TXMouse is better in some ways, but there are still disadvantages: 1) middle click will not work for some things, like opening links in a new tab in FF/SM 2) TXMouse brings in classic X Windows focus behaviour - Focus follows mouse, and optional autoraise Some people like that focus style. Personally, I hate it unless I am using a tiling WM, which isn't avalible on Windows Also, in Win7 the systray popup is disconnected from the taskbar, so it is a real pain to use it with focus follows mouse. [1] http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/nt/TXMouse/ Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=wm-q+verbx9ainmwop8pvjcjx_rvd3sc8o...@mail.gmail.com
Re: OT: Make Windows act like Debian and copy text just by marking it
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 06:31, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 12:01:37 +0100, Daniel Andersson wrote: Can anyone recommend a program that allows me to make Windows to act like as Debian and copy text just by marking it? How does Debian copy text with just marking it? :-? By way of the X Windows PRIMARY selection Middle click then pastes the PRIMARY selection JWZ breaks it down: http://www.jwz.org/doc/x-cut-and-paste.html Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=tb=4G1iD=iysabpy_qlsgwru9mns0crcpj...@mail.gmail.com
Re: OT: Make Windows act like Debian and copy text just by marking it
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 18:34, Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 06:31, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 12:01:37 +0100, Daniel Andersson wrote: Can anyone recommend a program that allows me to make Windows to act like as Debian and copy text just by marking it? How does Debian copy text with just marking it? :-? By way of the X Windows PRIMARY selection Middle click then pastes the PRIMARY selection JWZ breaks it down: http://www.jwz.org/doc/x-cut-and-paste.html Oh I forgot to say that TXMouse does not implement a seperate Primary selection - it just uses the clipboard, so ctrl-c overwrites the selection and vice versa. Another annoyance. -KC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTimUsYqsqZ9m6guM6wNQhtM=4vx_h-nyufqgl...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Let's talk about HTTPS Everywhere
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 04:57, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 03:29:15 -0800, S Mathias wrote: 3) Can someone trust this Add-on? Is it safe to install/use? I don't like/trust anoymous (even encrypted) proxy sites. Why don't you like them (I get not trusting them), and what does that have to do with https everywhere? 4) If it's so great why isn't it more prevalent? - SSL traffic is heavy and slow - There no need (normally) for encrypting public navigation (see the note below) What's youre opinion? Or answer? :\ My opinion is that I don't want to encrypt all the traffic, at least not with the slow DSL connections/hosts we have now (loading a single page will take seconds). I prefer to leave the SSL/TLS for sensitive data (logins, etc...). SSL/TLS isn't going to add enough overhead to the packets to make a real difference unless you are something slower than DSL. As far as the encryption/decryption goes, unless you are on a smartphone or netbook or a really old computer, it will not matter to you. If enough people do it, it will matter to the servers, but that is what capacity planning and NICs with encryption offloading engines are for. Or better yet, provide a hardware solution for transparently encrypt all the data and its transport. Software is slow :-) See NICs with encryption offloading engines above. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi�9jdSNihgbXC=syykrbojs9bk5po9qjok...@mail.gmail.com
Re: btrfs on an external HD?
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 08:18, Brad Alexander stor...@gmail.com wrote: That is a good point. Is anyone using the 2.6.36-1~experimental.1 from experimental? Any stability issues? I am running it, no problems here. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=2tmbn6e4zs0covk9dmny=t-fqkt-7waite...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Frustration made me do it.
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 14:55, teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net wrote: Example, Lxde doesn't have the bloat of KDE4, but is still running ontop of the same core enviroment of the KDE system native to the OS, (e.g. Lxde in squeeze has the same underlying and crappy menu and configuration systems at KDE4, trying to tweek the system is like going on a major quest and it doesn't have anywhere near the customization options KDE3 had.) Totally wrong. LXDE is Openbox and some other things, nothing at all to do with KDE, either 3 or 4. If anything, it has slightly more to do with Gnome, as it uses GTK apps. On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 18:02, Celejar cele...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 00:35:37 + Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt wrote: ... I use Iceweasel with ADP and NoScript and that's it. Sometimes i get in trouble with flash-sites and sometimes my cpu will spike 'cos of some tab, but i think it's the most all-round browser i have. I'll use 30 tabs max, and don't like to keep flash tabs open, so i can't say i use it extensively. I guess it is the difference between mainline and IW, but I never see actual stability issues until 100 tabs. Maybe with a lot of Flash, but not even then since OOPP showed up. My policy, for stability and privacy, is to run two instances of FF. My main one has no scripting allowed (NoScript with basically no exceptions - perhaps I should just entirely turn off Javascript in FF), no Flash, no cookies, etc. I tend to keep dozens of tabs open here. My secondary has some scripting (managed with NoScript), Flash (managed with FlashBlock) and cookies on a case by case basis. I generally keep very few windows open at a time, and quite frequently clear all private data. Why bother with Flashblock? AFAIK NoScript is more flexible than Flashblock at blocking Flash. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktink9gefkukbex=uoavcywch_k0mhwztz9o14...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Frustration made me do it.
2010/11/20 Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt: I've read nice stuff about dillo (which rendering engine?), but haven't tried it. It uses it's own rendering engine, which is very limited compared to the big 4 (modern Gecko, Webkit, Presto and Trident). Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinytopzmj_y31+xznhw4-a=iq61fqiusb_0f...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Frustration made me do it.
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:04, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Vi, 19 nov 10, 05:49:13, Kelly Clowers wrote: Haven't switched to IMAP yet, still on Gmail at this point. And what's the problem? I use Gmail via IMAP just fine. I use Gmail for the UI and the Search. Otherwise I would just run Postfix+Dovecot on my server. I still plan to actually, but I keep hoping if I put it off long enough, someone will make a good search system and a UI I can enjoy. On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 13:39, Jonathan Dlouhy dlouh...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/19/2010 04:23 PM, Petrus Validus wrote: How does Seamonkey fare at performance/resource handling? Is it any better than FF? I haven't used it in quite some time. Don't all the addons most folks use slow FF down even more? Installing the top ten addons from AMO will about double the number of stat()s on startup, I believe. And some are definitely memory/cpu hogs. A few are outright buggy and will cause crashes and other serious badness. I can't live with a browser without them, though. And Mozilla at least needs fewer than FF to be a reasonable browser. As far as resources in general, for years Moz was far better at dealing with large numbers of tabs, but Moz has only gotten a little better, while FF has improved a lot, so they are pretty close. Actual memory used is pretty similar (the allocator, etc. is in Gecko, so that makes sense). Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikop4hcrns-zehlpj27658hum_ezcyglbnoq...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Frustration made me do it.
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 00:45, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: unfortunately s/wicd/network-manager/ :( yuck Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimiq7rtnzsmmdgay63a41zwmlgsbdu6glzzo...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Frustration made me do it.
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 21:37, Dan Serban dser...@lodgingcompany.com wrote: After years of running the mozilla suite (remember when you couldn't refresh a POST document in mozilla 0.6?) and begrudgingly moving to Firefox, then falling in love with iceweasel. Today, sad as it is, is when I feel that I must announce that I decided to: # aptitude purge iceweasel icedove They are too old anyway. I may dislike the Foundation, but the only way to go is straight from the source, preferably the Nightlies. I will spare you the minute details for my decision, but I assume most of you experience the same frustrations I do. The increasing bloat, the never enough memory (16gb real, 32gb swap) being happily claimed by a single tab and xul-runner eating it all. I use Mozilla and FF with 4GB memory, and everything is fine (although I don't run a DE). I could use a little more memory, but only because I developed the bad habit of running 2 browsers often with a total of over 200 tabs. Icedove likes to make my computer behave like a 386 (downloading and indexing millions of IMAP messages.. heck, it's _why_ I use IMAP :/). Haven't switched to IMAP yet, still on Gmail at this point. I now have chromium and claws at my beck and call. Man.. are they ever fast. Chrome/Chromium invariably fill me with rage. How can a UI be that bad? Just thought I'd make some noise and share, I feel so free. \o/ 'K Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikkq8yfaytdw0amxat_ukaxxd2m3s1e9ehq5...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Frustration made me do it.
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 03:26, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kalinowski.com.br wrote: On 19 Nov 2010, Dan Serban wrote: snip Just thought I'd make some noise and share, I feel so free. \o/ Thanks for the heads up but you can, you know, just delete packages without having to inform anyone about it. Where's the fun in that? Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=g8oubw0uumetdsqenvu3z75-wqoww2ytsx...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Packages - what's the best way?
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 23:20, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Du, 14 nov 10, 20:54:42, Bob Proulx wrote: And if 'sudo' isn't configured for you then that is the first thing that you will want to do. :-) # visudo rob ALL=(ALL) ALL What's wrong with su? It is the The Wrong Way(TM), because it involves giving everyone the root password and unlimited authority, and it has very little in the way of logging. With sudo, you specifically log every command that gets run as root and who did it, each user uses their own password, and you can give as broad or as limited permissions as you want. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=tggxyogzh3zyzhbnx6tk-1uvvejhw=q_ao...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Game online
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 05:12, Alex PADOLY alex.pad...@laposte.net wrote: Hi, Di you know a game online that I can play with firefox on Linux. Regards. games.AdultSwim.com (may be mildly NSFW, but no, it isn't a porn site, it is Cartoon Network's late night division) popcap.com (commercial site; disclaimer: a friend of mine works there) Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinkvsjvrwftccf8zc5wvpjfamqvmvcf8nfcq...@mail.gmail.com
Re: ATI problems
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 09:45, Klaus Wolf kl...@linuxwolf.de wrote: Hi, sorry, but try this: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd This new one should work. radeonhd is old any basically abandoned. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktindkxut2okkrgyre6hnq5-4_0g5xc5e9dsap...@mail.gmail.com
Re: setting up mouse and keyboard for X11
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 08:19, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: The keyboard layout is different on the console because Xmodmap is ineffective on the console Not at all, it works very well in my experience ... And how´s that the other way round: When you modify the keyboard layout on the console, will you have the same layount for X11? Indeed Perhaps it works when I disable hald? What愀 hald good for, anyway? It only makes things unconfigurable, but does it have any advantages? Is it some sort of virus that has been ported from windoze? Hal was fundamentally a good idea, but had some implementation problems that cause them to eventually replace it with direct libudev access and upower and udisks (formerly devicekit-*). Squeeze's X uses udev instead of HAL Hm, I´m using testing, but hal was installed automatically because packages depend on it. What´s it for when it´s not being used? Ugh, KDE in particular (and few others as well) have been slow to change over to udev/udisks/upower. Use aptitude in interactive mode to see hal's reverse dependencies, and which of them are installed. For example, k3b is only reason I currently have hal installed. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinzbkchfa738gnotvoj+3xnini2pgv0fkjmq...@mail.gmail.com
Re: setting up mouse and keyboard for X11
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 13:01, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 05:24:13PM +0200, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: AFAIR, to configure X only with the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file it is recommended to disable the ServerFlags option AutoAddDevices (see man xorg.conf and /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-core/changelog.gz). When I do that, neither keyboard nor mouse work and I´m forced to press the reset button. Otherwise the configuration shall be migrated to /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf (see /usr/share/doc/xser-xorg-core/changelog.Debian.gz). Thanks! The manpage of evdev shows that there´s no option to set the property Evdev Wheel Emulation which is disabled by default. How do you configure this property? The manpage also doesn´t say anything about keyboards. Keyboard config is still handled via the xkb subsystem in X. /usr/share/doc/console-setup/README.gz has the details on /etc/default/console-setup or /etc/default/keyboard And how does a configuration file under /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ fit into the Debian policy that all configuration files reside under /etc? Shouldn´t there be a file /etc/defaults/mouse (and more files for more input devices) to set up the mouse just like there´s /etc/defaults/keyboard? Once all input devices are configured the same way for X11 and the console, they should work on both ... Mouse on the console still uses gpm, with the config file /etc/gpm.conf As for the other file, the copy in /usr/share/ is always the original copy of the default version of the file. It should be copied to /etc/ and modified. In this case it becomes /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimeagvoecwcq=fg7k0nvnsqm2xddcdok192m...@mail.gmail.com
Re: KDE Question
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 15:39, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: use plain desktop, disable akonadi, strigi and that stuff, forget activities, return to the standard icons on the desktop.. Out of all the awesome things in KDE4 why would disable some of the very best? Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=tqgckcx=bhdo=1svstcp85=o5mkuptdpsb...@mail.gmail.com
Re: KDE Question
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 19:38, Mike Bird mgb-deb...@yosemite.net wrote: On Tue October 12 2010 19:11:29 Kelly Clowers wrote: On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 15:39, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: use plain desktop, disable akonadi, strigi and that stuff, forget activities, return to the standard icons on the desktop.. Out of all the awesome things in KDE4 why would disable some of the very best? People want to use Debian to get work done. That stuff is clever but slow and irrelevant for 99% of users. Akonadi and Strigi and similar technologies are critical to taking the desktop to the next level of efficiency and effectiveness. Admittedly, that's still in the early stages, but it is clearly where we need to go. As for Plasma, it allows for some pretty interesting things, it just remains to be seen which ones will be cool and shiny and which ones will offer fundamental improvements over the old standard (of course, that same is true for alternate WMs (I use Awesome WM for good reason), but they don't get the level of attention that KDE and Gnome do). Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikgo=qsrahcjomb3owrfjdljugx0jploud...@mail.gmail.com
Re: setting up mouse and keyboard for X11
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 01:56, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 03:37:13PM -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:31:34 +0200 lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: xinput -set-prop PS2++ Logitech TrackMan Evdev Wheel Emulation Button 8 How do I make it so that it's set up automatically? Mouse stuff still goes in xorg.conf AFAIK You probably want: driver evdev and delete the protocol line altogether. You might try: devicemouse0 as well. The problem with the keyboard remains ... try setting it in /etc/default/keyboard Here's mine: XKBMODEL=pc105 XKBLAYOUT=jp,us XKBVARIANT=OADG109A,intl XKBOPTIONS=grp:shift_toggle,ctrl:nocaps that's strange - your xconfig file looks like it's set-up correctly and that you wouldn't need the xinput. It is set up correctly, but the settings are ignored, see man xorg.conf: If AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using the kbd, mouse or vmmouse driver are ignored. When I turn AllowEmptyInput off, all input devices are ignored : It really should be part of the xconfig file... Indeed, it should, but they changed it. for good reason: now keyboard config is universal between the console and X Perhaps it works when I disable hald? What愀 hald good for, anyway? It only makes things unconfigurable, but does it have any advantages? Is it some sort of virus that has been ported from windoze? Hal was fundamentally a good idea, but had some implementation problems that cause them to eventually replace it with direct libudev access and upower and udisks (formerly devicekit-*). Squeeze's X uses udev instead of HAL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=ocve+b0wgba9qta_kzow82nolth19w+kxm...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian Sid questions on compiz, missing xorg.conf etc
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 14:34, Shuanghe tworiversf...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, dear all Debian user, I have a few questions regarding the Debian Sid installation, missing xorg.conf and functionality of Compiz. 1. I installed a few days ago the Sid (using businesscard iso) in my Dell Inspiron 9300 laptop. More or less everything seems OK. There're 2 problems though that I can see immediately after the installation. One thing is that my touchpad didn't work 100%. I mean I can move the mouse point and the horizontal and vertical scroll bar work fine but I CANNOT use touch for click. I had to click the 2 buttons below the touchpad for that. It's not a big problem but it's annoying. Can anyone helps to solve this problem? This should help some: http://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad#Debiansqueeze.2Ckernel2.6.32-4andlater.2CXorg7.5 The other thing is that the installation didn't recognize my Windows OS. Well, it did says during the installation that there's Windows OS on the hard drive so I installed grub in MBR but grub didn't pick the windows up when I rebooted the PC. I had to manually enable it after googling around. Is this a bug? Anyway, I'm pretty new so I don't know how to report a bug even if it is. So just a comment here. Grub2 picked my Windows partition when I created it, so yes, that's a regression. Use the reportbug command: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting 2. I installed compiz compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-gnome compiz-gtk and some extra fusion packages (and of course, the Nvidia drive). However when I open CCSM and enabled some nice shiny animates it didn't work at all. there's compiz wiki http://wiki.debian.org/Compiz saying you have to edit xorg.conf manually. Until then I found out that I don't even have this file. Should I manually write one? but how? You generally don't need one anymore, but sometimes you need a partial one to get certain things working. I don't have time ATM to go into it. I tried to create a xorg.conf in /etc/X11 and copy+paste the paragraph from that wiki, and then compiz --replace with and without sudo, no luck. after rebooting, ooops, no gnome desktop anymore. after deleting the file everything went back as before. But I really like some of the compiz functions such as scale addons and Expo for quick picking up the windows. Any help here please? I don't know much about Compiz, and I don't touch binary drivers (actually, the Nouveau Open Source drivers might work for you, depends on your card), so maybe someone else can help. by the way, I installed nvidia-kernel-2.6.32-5-486, there's another with name nvidia-kernel-2.6.32-5-686. No idea what's the difference. *-486 means it was compiled to work even on a 486 (do any of the cards supported by that driver even work in a 486?), *-686 means the compile included additional optimizations for the 686 (MMX, SSE, etc). Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti==nsq4ugwc3i=wk6eymv=ehg9hab05ue0eg...@mail.gmail.com
Re: OT Re: root can't sudo
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 17:58, Thierry Chatelet tchate...@free.fr wrote: I dont use sudo, but can you explain me,so I will go to bed with more knowledge, why root would need sudo? Thierry I have used sudo as root - but with a username as an argument. Without a username, it defaults to root, and I can't figure out why you would want that. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimea-ymvrforlg=cdd1k_dpk7guhq-reyaen...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Squeeze. What is current hibernation mechanism?
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 09:11, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:21:15 +0400, Mark Goldshtein wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Camaleón wrote: Hibernation and suspension are sharing the same requirements than always: 1. ACPI compilant machine / devices 2. An OS capable to handle them (for hibernation you need a swap partition size with at least the same amount of your RAM) 3. Testing, testing, testing 4. A good provision of luck :-) It is seems like I am not too good with gathering such an ephemeral thing like a 'luck' :( Luck is a pretty scarce resource on these days... About 'what is not working'. I have a NVidia videoboard: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation GT216 [GeForce GT 240M] [10de:0a34] (rev a2) Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:38fd] Kernel driver in use: nvidia Which driver are you using (nouveau, nv, nvidia)? Different drivers provide different support for resuming. Also, having 3D effects enabled can be conflictive. I think you missed Kernel driver in use: nvidia Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktim0uufmxjvu_dgedooyra+_2krkanytysly4...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Iceape/Seamonkey and Iceweasel/Firefox - was Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 00:21, Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com wrote: On 17/09/10 16:40, Bret Busby wrote: snip read that... (scott) /snip Please note: in an effort to trim the message to which I am responding, I cut most of it out, apart from the stuff above, and the stuff above Mozilla Corp, above, was posted by me, and from there down, was posted by Scott (to avoid confusion about misquoting). What about the differences between iceape and Seamonkey? Do they have the same funtionality? -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. ...and I cut it further :-) Similar story to Iceweasel (note the lower-case w!) and Firefox. (Going from memory here - so someone please correct me if I'm wrong.) Once apon a time there was Netscape suite - which became Mozilla suite In spirit only. Netscape 5 would have been a continuation of 4's code base, but they tossed it out and wrote Gecko from scratch. The browser built on Gecko was called Mozilla (which had been the Netscape code name since forever), later it was called Mozilla Suite to distinguish it from other Mozilla browsers. (a pyrrhic victory!) What? which became Seamonkey - due to restrictions placed on it by the Mozilla Corporation, Debian produced the Iceape version. That's a little of the history. Differences:- logos, icons, names etc - plus Iceape is slightly more configurable (user-agent etc.) and security patches to older versions are unaffected by Mozilla freezes. Functionality:- slightly more with Iceape - but I haven't noticed any difference in performance. Although the current version of SeaMonkey has more features than the old version that is Iceape Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=cu2-ftwtaxcsm2r+gfopzpzxyndmrm8mx9...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [News] Flash player plugin (64 bits) comes back!
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 23:33, John W Foster jfoster81...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the clincher..I have compared the output of streaming 1080p video on this same machine running mixed squeeze/sid to the same box running windows 7 pro. the video quality seems to be exactly the same. I can not tell any difference in video quality believe me there was a serious difference before. Huh? I admit I don't usually use 1080, but I never noticed any difference at 720 with old 64-bit Flash Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikhs6vaca-n-usvacfyjs2ybfgsbykhycgxp...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Iceweasel stability issues after reading the browser straw poll
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 21:40, Marc Shapiro marcns...@gmail.com wrote: Adam Hardy wrote: I don't have the stability problems as you describe but I don't use Flashblock or Flashgot or Readability. I do have a problem with youtube videos and the sound, but I don't know what's causing it and I haven't tried fixing it yet. I'm hoping for an upgrade in the near future to Firefox 3. I am running Firefox 3.6 on Lenny and I still have sound problems. I think the problems are more due to flash games that my daughter runs than to youtube, but flash seems to be the culprit in any case. I usually have to just keep killing instances of Firefox until I find the right one. Uh, if you are using FF3.6, just kill the Flash process, not FF. And I am guessing you don't use PA? Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=hs5sp7mx0kdvsbefiwq+k0501dx5uug4up...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 19:52, Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 08:57, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote: On Mon, 13 Sep 2010, Kelly Clowers wrote: You say Moz (?) but, if you refer to Seamonkey, that is diifferent (from what I understand) to iceape, which has, from what I understand, some of the Mozilla stuff that makes Mozilla software what it is, removed. The only thing that should be removed is the name. I may be wrong in my understanding, but I believe that some of the functionality was removed, in the modifications of the Mozilla products to create the Debian products iceape and iceweasel, as the Mozilla products apparently did not comply with the Debian philosophy and thence Mozilla products in their Mozilla forms were no longer available via the Debian repositories. If by some of the functionality was removed, you mean the standard Firefox and SeaMonkey Icons, then sure. That's about it AFAIK. Trouble with the icon licensing (and some issues with carrying patches, I think) led to trouble with the trademarks, which led to the name change. Sent to the list this time. Sorry about that. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=5g9fdpxrt5c7kzucsh1rq_-=9nabcqhemy...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 22:54, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote: On Thu, 9 Sep 2010, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 23:45, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote: Iceape can be convenient, especially beinfg a suite, so it is easy to click on a mailto link, and open up the integrated email composer. But, iceape appears to be devoid of memory management, and it appears to have a viral use for memory, progressively increasing memory usage if the browser is left open, and it does not free up the memory that it has been using, when it is closed in an orderly manner (that is, on the odd occasion that it is deliberately closed, rather than the all too frequent crashes). Also, iceape does not have the facility for saving sessions, either deliberately, or, when the application crashes. Sure Moz has session saving. And it's memory management has always been as good or better than FF. If Iceape doesn't then they are really messing something up. If iceape and iceweasel both were able to save sessions, and, to provide a means of splitting sessions into bookmark folders/sets, for each browser window open in a session, so that a user can, on opening a new session of the browser after a crash, and select options of a new, separate session, or restoring the complete old session (or, similarly, for a previous saved session that was not saved due to a crash), or, open in a browser window (the existing browser window or a new browser window), a single browser window (from a bookmakr set from a previous saveds session), it would be good. It's kind of hard to understand what you want to do, but it seems like Mozilla (and FF?) do pretty much all of that. You say Moz (?) but, if you refer to Seamonkey, that is diifferent (from what I understand) to iceape, which has, from what I understand, some of the Mozilla stuff that makes Mozilla software what it is, removed. The only thing that should be removed is the name. snip However, the memory cache keeps increasing, as does the actual memory usage, and, because it is iceape, when, as previously stated, the application is closed, whether by crashing or in an orderly manner, the memory that it has taken up, is not released, so, after using iceape, the ssytem has to be rebooted after iceape has closed, to free up the memory that had been used by iceape. Ok, if it doesn't free memory on closing the application, then that is a *real* memory leak, and it should be an RC bug. I have had to disable javascript, to get iceape as stable as possible, as the Block pop-ips does not work, The built in pop-up blocker doesn't work? That's another serious regression from upstream. and automatically refereshing web pages make iceape viral within the system, as it increasingly devours memory, like a flesh-eating disease. That might be a good analogy for iceape - reather than viral, a flesh-eating application. One thing that might be worth remembering here - you have referred to Moz (?) and FF(?). If in that, you refer to Seamonkey and Firefox, iceape and iceweasel are different to the Mozilla products. Similar, but different. They are supposed to be identical, except for the name and a few bug fixes. Although, I guess they are really old versions. If iceape is still SM 1.x, not 2.0, it wouldn't have session saving. Current FF and Moz have session restore even without crashing. But memory management was fine in SM 1.x and Mozilla 1.8, so that's still a regression , not a new feature they haven't caught up with yet. All in all, it seems like my decision to use upstream (despite my dislike of the Mozilla Foundation) was the right one, and not just because of freshness issues. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimb4huqp4sk1utya0m=x3fbkcddjpsgntnrv...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 04:32, Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be wrote: Klistvud wrote: Dne, 13. 09. 2010 10:33:42 je Merciadri Luca napisal(a): You mean, ctrl-q doesn't work? It works! Nice! I did not know that there was this command! In theory, all Linux gui apps should respect ctrl-q, and most do. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimjvbkgyq0_evgpaovlnab1cxigofh3mm-89...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 08:49, Jens Stimpfle jstimp...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 4:34 AM, Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com wrote: With 4GB I am never really memory constrained, and everything works fine with 100+ tabs open continuously for days. It's hard to remember, but I don't think I really had too many problems when it was 1GB and something like 10-30 tabs... Just because I'm curious.. What the heck would you ever do with a 100+ tabs? It seems to be a bit that Mozilla should simply restrict the number of open tabs to a sane value like 10. That would cause people like me to completely flip out. If they did that, I would go to any lengths to fix it. Even if they made an obfuscated change deep in the C++ code, I would learn C++ just to fix it if no one else figured it out and posted a patch. There is absolutely no way I could work with 10 tabs. If I really had no choice, I maybe could get by in 20, but I would hate it. With, say, 50, I could work without feeling severely constrained. I haven't not used session restore in, I don't know, 6+ months, but when I do restart Moz without restoring, the first thing I do is open 2 bookmark sets, one is 9 tabs (slashdot, gmail, news, etc.), the other is 19 (webcomics). Then I have a window with sysadmin stuff, and a window full of blog posts that I read at one time or another, and all sorts of misc. tabs opened here and there. Which would improve workflow and the stop of complaints about memory usage for quite a lot of users in my opinion. ;-) In my experience, the really heavy tab users usually have no complaints about memory usage. I certainly don't. Under a gig res and under 2 gigs virt in a 4 gig system is very reasonable for the number of tabs I have open. And as I said, it doesn't really increase beyond that, no matter how long I leave all those tabs open, or open and close tabs. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinsxh2swxmmuj2ezhhat7b65u1anzpsfxks_...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 23:45, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote: Iceape can be convenient, especially beinfg a suite, so it is easy to click on a mailto link, and open up the integrated email composer. But, iceape appears to be devoid of memory management, and it appears to have a viral use for memory, progressively increasing memory usage if the browser is left open, and it does not free up the memory that it has been using, when it is closed in an orderly manner (that is, on the odd occasion that it is deliberately closed, rather than the all too frequent crashes). Also, iceape does not have the facility for saving sessions, either deliberately, or, when the application crashes. Sure Moz has session saving. And it's memory management has always been as good or better than FF. If Iceape doesn't then they are really messing something up. If iceape and iceweasel both were able to save sessions, and, to provide a means of splitting sessions into bookmark folders/sets, for each browser window open in a session, so that a user can, on opening a new session of the browser after a crash, and select options of a new, separate session, or restoring the complete old session (or, similarly, for a previous saved session that was not saved due to a crash), or, open in a browser window (the existing browser window or a new browser window), a single browser window (from a bookmakr set from a previous saveds session), it would be good. It's kind of hard to understand what you want to do, but it seems like Mozilla (and FF?) do pretty much all of that. And, if someone could fix the memory issues, it would be good. When 2GB of RAM is insufficient to run Linux AND a web browser on top od Linux, suxh as iceape, then there is something dreadfully wrong with the memory management of the operating system and/or the web browser software. With 4GB I am never really memory constrained, and everything works fine with 100+ tabs open continuously for days. It's hard to remember, but I don't think I really had too many problems when it was 1GB and something like 10-30 tabs... Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=3hjipbxm5zq2dk7cro_n++yhgc2cre5ma7...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 04:15, B. Alexander stor...@gmail.com wrote: I'm running 3.5.11 on sid. One of the problems that I have (and maybe one of my problems with performance) is that there are several extensions that I can't live without. I have a slew of them installed, but the main ones I use on a daily basis include: * AdBlock Plus * Readability * Secure Login * NoScript * FoxTab (meh...) * CS Lite * BugMeNot (though I haven't used it in a while...) I have several others installed, but these are the ones I use more or less daily. I don't know, I have a lot of extensions on my Mozilla and FF, and they have never caused performance problems for me. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinzc56hslrb1i0ctgskpkzxotcv6uwdblcdq...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Unicode Character key-in problem
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 00:43, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net wrote: On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:47:44 -0700 Carl Johnson ca...@peak.org dijo: That is why we were talking about the Compose and AltGr keys. I have a US keyboard and I just press the Compose key followed by s and s to get ß. Similarly, I can press Compose ' and a to get á. The AltGr key will also allow access to alternate values of individual keys by holding down the AltGr key and pressing another key. For the US-international layout, the AltGr-a combination will give á, AltGr-s gives ß, AltGr-/ gives ¿. I am using unicode, but it works for all characters that the charset and locale allow. I have a US keyboard and I do not have an AltGr key. I do have two Alt keys, one on either side of the spacebar, but neither works as you describe. However, in Linux Ctrl-Shift-u plus the unicode value enters any character contained in the font. How did you get a US keyboard with an AltGr key? It is *really* hard to find a US keyboard with it actually printed on the key, but any right-alt (or any other key, really) can be a altgr if you use something like this: XKBOPTIONS=lv3:ralt_switch or you can get compose with either: XKBOPTIONS=compose:ralt or: XKBLAYOUT=us XKBVARIANT=intl (or you can use both with something like: XKBOPTIONS=compose:ralt, lv3:rwin_switch) If you like dead keys: XKBLAYOUT=us XKBVARIANT=alt-intl In current systems, these go in /etc/default/keyboard Older systems use xorg.conf. On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 00:52, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 08 September 2010 03:44:27 Doug wrote: How, in plain English, can one get foreign characters in Linux without using an international keyboard? I use skim; scim, I believe, if you do not have KDE. I have found ibus to be a bit robust than scim, and less finicky about ABI transition issues (since it isn't C++ and anyway uses DBus instead of internal communication). Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinw-dsjt_zh1tearviw3b4+bichvmmj-2qbc...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 06:16, B. Alexander stor...@gmail.com wrote: I'm just wondering, since firefox/iceweasel seems to be getting unusable. I have a 2.2GHz C2D box with an nvidia card at home, and a 3.0GHz C2D with a (lame) ATI card at work. I find that firefox (or xulrunner-stub) have memory leaks, and after a couple of days, it eats up a significant amount (10-30%) of memory. The work box has 3GB and the home box has 4GB. It also eats up a significant amount of CPU. This morning, after idling all weekend, iceweasel on my work system was chewing up between 70 and 100% of my cpus, and scrolling pages were hesitating for several seconds. So what do others use? --b I use Mozilla 1.9.1 aka SeaMonkey 2.0, 64-bit version Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimemxgzobg7oxo8wg5bnsnczd7rqfglv2bvq...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Upgrade to latest Inkscape
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 06:13, James Stuckey jhstuc...@gmail.com wrote: You shouldn't do it like this. If you do, you very well may end up with an unstable system. What? Why would it be unstable? Upgrade to testing by the instructions I gave you, and then backport this package to testing from experimental. a) put experimental deb-src only in your sources.list b) update aptitude c) apt-get build-dep inkscape (or whatever the package name is) d) apt-get -b source inkscape e) install resulting inkscape deb Hmmm, I never really got how to use source packages. Is that really all there is to it? Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktim_txqra8nsa7++rboi7kypdtodf3=bso6s9...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Upgrade to latest Inkscape
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 13:59, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Kelly Clowers wrote: James Stuckey wrote: You shouldn't do it like this. If you do, you very well may end up with an unstable system. What? Why would it be unstable? For one it would then be Unstable, as in the daily Debian Unstable build. As in Unstable, Testing, Stable. Here is a reference to Debian release tracks. Oh, just the names? I realized 3 or 4 years ago that there is no point in being afraid of unstable or experimental just because of the names. I guess they might be unstable enough to bother some people. But the real problem with upgrading by the method described is that you will probably end up with an unbootable system. That would be another definition of unstable. This next upgrade will require specific actions to successfully upgrade. Such as upgrading the kernel first, rebooting, then upgrading the rest of the system. See several of the recent discussion threads talking about the upgrade process from Lenny to Squeeze to get the details. Yeah, I guess I forgot about that silly transition issue. Probably because I tend to just upgrade with aptitude interactive, and even I do manage to get an unbootable system, it is easy enough to recover it with a live cd. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktin9=v9dmrbunfzihkrq6=aouhqw+ofhqhyxx...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Upgrade to latest Inkscape
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 04:59, John Culleton j...@wexfordpress.com wrote: I want to upgrade to latest Inkscape 0.48.0 To that end I did a net install of Debian and ended up with Lenny and Inkscape 0.46. Two questions: 1. What release of Debian is likely to get Inkscape 0.48 first? Unstable has 0.47, experimental has 0.48 Backports seems not to have it. 2. How do I upgrade to that release? Change /etc/apt/sources.list so that it says unstable instead of stable or lenny, then do aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade. Then add lines that point to experimental (add to, not replace; experimental only has a few packages of it's own, the rest must come from unstable). Then you need to explicitly select inkscape 0.48 (I recommend aptitude in interactive mode), as a regular aptitude upgrade will not pull in experimental packages. Or you might want to upgrade to testing first, then to unstable/experimental. In any case, unstable is pretty calm right now, due to the freeze, so there shouldn't be too many issues. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimbbgzumnkposquld_8abqq7gfjjazyjodwq...@mail.gmail.com
Re: From console to GUI
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 05:40, Jangita jang...@jangita.com wrote: Hello Good people, I have been an avid user of debian linux, but for server and backend systems (apache/mysql/kannel and the likes), and I develop all my software from my windows laptop (dreamweaver, delphi, sqlyog - mysql client) etc etc I have been poking around a little bit to now move my laptop to debian; Since I've done alot of work with servers on debian, i do know my way around as per drivers, apt, and debian as a whole, but purely console - but I suck at GUI; so I would like to know what combinations of software would let me continue working as I did on my laptop, but on debian Questions are (without starting a which is the best war...) 1. For GUI: I've chosen GNome, any reason why I should choose otherwise? Gnome is great. So is KDE. Some like lightweight alternatives, like LXDE, or just a Window Manager without a Desktop Environment. I'd start with Gnome or KDE, then try the other (give each at least a month, I would say). Then if you feel like it, try some other the other options. 2. Email: I've seen evolution, but I'm leaning towards thunderbird... good or bad choice? any other email clients I should consider? TB is good, and I believe Evo is good these days. If you use KDE, KMail could be OK, but it will be better once it is fully utilizing the KDE4 frameworks, and debugged on them, but that will be a while yet. 3. Programming: For my programming I've seen eclipse to be the best, I could practically code everything in evolution using the plugins, one problem though - do I get a WYSIWYG plugin/editor for my HTML pages (might be for the eclipse mailing list but just wnat to see what guys use here) Eclipse is common, but a lot of people here probably program in Vim or Emacs. I can't recommend WYSIWYG for HTML at all. Bluefish is step up from writing HTML in a plain text editor, but isn't really WYSIWYG. 4. Delphi - FPC 5. Any ideas of a GUI mysql client for windows? dunno 6. I forgot to mention my chat applications (skype, msn, yahoo, google talk) - any recommended clients that support features in the original versions? (I've only found skype) Pidgin is the most common. Gnome's Empathy is very cool, but less feature complete at this time. Personally, I like to use Psi, or some other XMPP (Jabber) client, and use the server-side transports to connect to the legacy protocols like MSN and Yahoo. 7. Office Suite - I'll go for openoffice (any better alternatives?) Not really, for a full suite. KOffice is still struggling too get back to where it was before the 2.0 rewrite (not enough man power). Gnumeric and Abiword are ok for a lightweight spreadsheet and word processor respectively. 8. Any alternative for adobe fireworks? Isn't that just Photoshop for the web? Then Gimp. Or does it do Flash and AIR and nasty things like that as well? Then there is no equivalent. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=mfk+2drefxmvsuhnreqgqixxkmuo+mezqf...@mail.gmail.com
Re: From console to GUI
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 07:01, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 14:40:32 +0200, Jangita wrote: 2. Email: I've seen evolution, but I'm leaning towards thunderbird... good or bad choice? any other email clients I should consider? I use Thunderbird (here in Debian named Icedove). I try to keep a prudent distance for Mono apps Luckily Evolution has nothing to do with Mono. Actually, I don't know of any email client written in C#. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktik65agv0g60u2wbb5h=xunvjqh1sxwbddryj...@mail.gmail.com
Re: From console to GUI
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 07:10, Jangita jang...@jangita.com wrote: Gimp looks ok; can Gimp do print quality (high dpi and crazy formats)? I don't know much about that stuff, but I think Gimp can do at least 1200 dpi. It does export to a large number of image formats, not sure which ones. One big problem with Gimp has been the lack of high color depth. Gimp is in the process of moving to a new image backend that can do 32 bit color depth (and other interesting things), I believe that that central feature can be enabled in 2.6. On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 08:29, Jangita jang...@jangita.com wrote: Thanks for your advice; I've tried wine,crossover in its early days, and yes it does run some windows applications directly on linux, but the experience it gives is still far from running the same application in its native OS (eg if i want to play a game) and as for CS4 (and other adobe suits) it almost always unexpectedly quits after about a minute of use, It really depends heavily on the app, the version of the app, and the version of Wine. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=dvkscxh4p+a2jsptt6y3fr9cu22trszxvo...@mail.gmail.com
Re: how can a non-root user mount .iso file?
On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 07:25, Guo Jiahua gjh...@gmail.com wrote: I wander if it's possible for a non-root user to get access into a .iso file. I know if I'm root, I can mount iso. but when I try to mount it, as I'm not root, 'mount' sais mount: only root can do that. If you need to repeatedly mount a specific iso, you can use /etc/fstab: /home/user/data.iso /mnt/ iso9660 ro,loop,user,noauto 00 and then this line so you can umount it: /dev/loop0 /mntiso9600 ro,loop,user,noauto 00 or you can actually use a generic name like data.iso and make that a symlink any given iso file you might need to mount -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktin2_+m69ba6ecufq8m=y5yt1l518wa=wkc57...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 01:51, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: Debian will _always_ default to an EXT* filesystem--until the end of time. Nope, btrfs will replace ext3/4 as default soon enough. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=hgrom682lbgmypx44uqj2dg25jwxzhivva...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Intel P55 chip set sound missing
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:38, Gary Roach gary719_li...@verizon.net wrote: Another installation problem for my new DP55KG motherboard with an i5-750 4 core cpu. No Sound!. The chipset is the P55 set and supports AC-97 and HDA protocols. I used the latest Debian Squeeze Network Installation Disk. Neither the onboard jacks or the front panel jacks work. I've checked the system tray audio setting and the intel HDA mixer settings and the generic settings. Everything seems to be OK. Anyone have a clue as to why the sound doesn't work. This is one of two problems with my Linux installation on this motherboard. The onboard 82578DC Lan chipset doesn't work either. I solved this one by adding an above board NIC. Latest Squeeze, so kernel 2.6.32 and Alsa 1.0.23, I think. What does the command lspci -v say about your sound card (and your onboard LAN for that matter)? And do you see a full set of mixer controls if you run alsamixer? Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktilxmtr2sb4f3ymst7wvvyeptv2kyth-hlks4...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Intel P55 chip set sound missing (SOLVED)
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 13:03, Gary Roach gary719_li...@verizon.net wrote: Sorry. The PCM Control was off. I missed it. Oh, didn't see this before. Ignore my other email then. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinrwp8ktvjuwgczpqf-tysthvfum1qurojpw...@mail.gmail.com
Re: CARTE SON PCI EXEPRESS
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 01:14, Michal mic...@sharescope.co.uk wrote: USB is for flash drives, printers, etc. Nothing good ever comes of using USB for sound or LAN OP, M-Audio makes good cards as does Asus (Xonar series). Just don't get anything from Creative. You would have more choice if you went PCI instead of PCIe, and PCIe doesn't really have any particular benefits for sound cards (unless you are building a small form-factor computer that only has PCIe slots or something). Actually, unless you are doing something special with audio (producing music or DJing or something), it really makes sense to go with the onboard sound chip. Via Envy24 chips are good, as are most that conform to the Intel HDA spec (including the very common Realtek chips that implement that spec (ALC88x and ALC1200)) . Cheers, Kelly Clowers Have external sound card moves the processing off the CPU, good if you have a low powered computer or are trying to get the maximum out of it, gaming for example (Though admittedly most hardcore gaming is done on Windows). You do also get better quality from an external card, but whether you would notice that is down to the person, and debatable An onboard sound chip does the same processing as a PCI sound card - they are not like winmodems. True, a card can get you better sound, but the modern onboard chips are darn good, unlike the ones from say, 6+ years ago which where pretty sad. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktim1mq7oa1a3gszrb9bnmilztswfpy3bo3qdn...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Transfering iceweasel bookmark files to new system
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 13:37, Gary Roach gary719_li...@verizon.net wrote: Hi; I am replacing my oldest 1GHZ box with a new 2.65 x 4 GHz box. Both are running Debian Squeeze. How do I transfer the iceweasel setup from the one computer to the other and combine the bookmarks from the two units. As an aside, is there any way to determine the purpose of all of the files (and their location) that Debian installs with a package. A list of files that are installed from a given package can be seen with dpkg -L packagename But this will not show files the program creates, in this case, that includes the directory ~/.mozilla/ and everything under it. If you are using pre-3.0 iceweasel (I have no idea what version is shipping where), the main bookmarks file is bookmarks.html in ~/.mozilla/firefox/profilename/ Bookmarks are still written out to that file in 3.x and copying it will work, but you will lose additional information that is in the sqlite database places.sqlite, so just copy it instead if you use 3.x If you want, you can just copy the whole ~./mozilla/ dir to a new computer, and you will get everything - bookmarks, cookies, saved forms, adblock lists, etc. (this might not work if you moved to a different architecture, e.g. x86 to PPC, I have never tried that - then again it might). If you want to keep bookmarks in sync in general, take a look at Mozilla Weave aka Firefox Sync. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktilh6ncxgbnrj_9ou2qsff3g3yenoebtczkha...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Transfering iceweasel bookmark files to new system
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 15:00, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 07/21/2010 03:37 PM, Gary Roach wrote: Hi; I am replacing my oldest 1GHZ box with a new 2.65 x 4 GHz box. Both are running Debian Squeeze. How do I transfer the iceweasel setup from the one computer to the other and combine the bookmarks from the two units. Bookmarks-Organize Bookmarks As an aside, is there any way to determine the purpose of all of the files (and their location) that Debian installs with a package. Google is how I learned to coy a places.sqlite file from one machine to the other. Reusing an in-place .mozilla/firefox tree when migrating from i386 to amd64 proved subtly problematic, though, in many ways. What kind of problems? I don't remember having problems... although maybe that was the 2.x era, or maybe I just don't remember it. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktin7q8vq0ou3hee3sd0him2gi2afvpozz-z6t...@mail.gmail.com
Re: CARTE SON PCI EXEPRESS
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:55, Alex PADOLY alex.pad...@laposte.net wrote: Message du 19/07/10 16:25 De : Dominique Pautrel A : Alex PADOLY Copie à : Objet : Re: CARTE SON PCI EXEPRESS Hi Alex, Le 19/07/2010 16:08, Alex PADOLY a écrit : Hi, I am going to do my PC and I look for to make it a compatible 100 % LINUX sound car on PCI EXPRESS, I readed the LINUX HARDWARE HOW-TO, it is not clear for me to choose a basic sound card on EXPRESS bus PCI recognized by LINUX. Thank you for your help concerning this delicate choice. Regards. Alex Une messagerie gratuite, garantie à vie et des services en plus, ça vous tente ? Je crée ma boîte mail www.laposte.net It seem like if you posted on a french list ! Perhaps you've got more success if you post on the Alsa user list, dedicated to audio cards : ___ Alsa-user mailing list alsa-u...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user Regards. Dom. At the moment, it would seem that it is preferable to buy an external sound card USB to have a sound with a new generation of PC (64 bits): http://www.terratec.net/fr/produits/technical-data/produkte_technische_daten_fr_52787.html USB is for flash drives, printers, etc. Nothing good ever comes of using USB for sound or LAN OP, M-Audio makes good cards as does Asus (Xonar series). Just don't get anything from Creative. You would have more choice if you went PCI instead of PCIe, and PCIe doesn't really have any particular benefits for sound cards (unless you are building a small form-factor computer that only has PCIe slots or something). Actually, unless you are doing something special with audio (producing music or DJing or something), it really makes sense to go with the onboard sound chip. Via Envy24 chips are good, as are most that conform to the Intel HDA spec (including the very common Realtek chips that implement that spec (ALC88x and ALC1200)) . Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikklm-0wamw8avcp9txpzc5ly2il2evfzvpn...@mail.gmail.com
Re: usernames that start with capital letter?
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:35, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: snip Anyway, in a gooey world, you click on an icon. Heretic! ;-) Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikljhb93ubsefduzzi_fu_o8v3isjo4oyz09...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [Solved ??? Please do not follow web resources without checking]: Scim and iceweasel
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 13:55, Osamu Aoki os...@debian.org wrote: Hi, On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 08:56:13AM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 07:54, H.S. hs.sa...@gmail.com wrote: On 17/07/10 07:49 AM, Osamu Aoki wrote: Sourcing ~/.bashrc does not work for programs started by menu as I understand. So this is not the best solution. Isn't the file read when one logs in to a DE? That is what appears to be happening when I log in to KDE. Since I put those variables in ~/.bashrc, scim is working flawlessly for me. But this may be happening due my ~/.profile which sources .bashrc file. Sorry, I always get confused in these files intended order/situations of reading (including ~/.bash_profile). .bash_profile is always read at login. .bashrc is often read at login as well, due to being sourced in .bash_profile, but not all systems are set up this way. .bashrc is read for every non-login shell that is started. There were discussion how to initialize X environment. Debian is different from RH. What? RH doesn't have anything to do with this that I can see. Environment are set 1. PAM for gdm via /etc/environment 2. /etc/X11/Xsession with $HOME/.xsessionrc Sure, that works for X-specific stuff. I was going to say ~/.bash_profile still applies as well, but it seems it does not if you use a *dm (unless you explicitly source it somewhere). Very silly, in my opinion. Unlike RedHat, Debian do not source $HOME/.profile in obvious way as I see. (I did not check if $HOME/.profile is sourced somewhere but above are the main location to set it. Otherwise use hooks provided by glue software such as im-switch or im-config run in /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/) I have a ~/.profile, and it says: # ~/.profile: executed by the command interpreter for login shells. # This file is not read by bash(1), if ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bash_login # exists. Currently, my ibus env setting are in /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/ That is im-switch ah, so it is I think ibus actually set them up itself, as I don't remember doing it (I set up scim in /etc/profile, back when I used it, I think) Are you sure you were using Debian ? I haven't used any other distro on my computer since 2004 or earlier. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktilyegkpo1orrx1euzjis6zvve4qia7qnptjr...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [Solved ??? Please do not follow web resources without checking]: Scim and iceweasel
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 07:54, H.S. hs.sa...@gmail.com wrote: On 17/07/10 07:49 AM, Osamu Aoki wrote: Sourcing ~/.bashrc does not work for programs started by menu as I understand. So this is not the best solution. Isn't the file read when one logs in to a DE? That is what appears to be happening when I log in to KDE. Since I put those variables in ~/.bashrc, scim is working flawlessly for me. But this may be happening due my ~/.profile which sources .bashrc file. Sorry, I always get confused in these files intended order/situations of reading (including ~/.bash_profile). .bash_profile is always read at login. .bashrc is often read at login as well, due to being sourced in .bash_profile, but not all systems are set up this way. .bashrc is read for every non-login shell that is started. Currently, my ibus env setting are in /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/ I think ibus actually set them up itself, as I don't remember doing it (I set up scim in /etc/profile, back when I used it, I think) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktilvglx9icocj8zolbqp8z9y893fllz7znwci...@mail.gmail.com
Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 11:02, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: Hi, My Google-fu must not be up to snuff, because I've Googled much without any luck. USB Audio 32-bit Sid ALSA 1.0.23+dfsg-1 Flash 10.1r53 (from adobe.com) Iceweasel 3.6.4-1 (experimental) vlc 1.1.0 users are in group audio Sound plays fine from local sources but not from Flash/Iceweasel. (Yes, Flash *video* works.) Ah, Flash, one of the last two major realms of audio suckage (the other is Wine, of course). I used to have that problem, and also sometimes Flash audio working, but then nothing else would play. Actually, I fixed it by using PulseAudio, but maybe you are one of those against PA? Of course, my Wine instance still refuses to play sound if any other audio application is active (e.g. a music player playing or even a finished Flash video, until you get rid of the Flash process). Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimn63ppwvvhwtwg4yc0ftjup-85jf7vl_v0g...@mail.gmail.com
Re: holding back buggy packages
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 06:14, Florian Kulzer florian.kulzer+deb...@icfo.es wrote: g) Scroll to the buggy packages in the actions preview, where they are easy to find, and use 'F' to forbid upgrades to the buggy versions. (You can also use '=' to hold if you prefer; I like forbid-version better because it means that I do not have to remember to remove the hold once a newer, hopefully fixed, version is available.) Ah ha! I didn't know about F, but it looks very handy. Thanks a lot. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktim1mlymcpsndgn8esbvl2cannxdrui6cgtqn...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Kernel 2,6,32-5-686 wrecks xorg
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 06:43, Wolodja Wentland wentl...@cl.uni-heidelberg.de wrote: ... or just disable KMS (and yes it sounds like a KMS issue). You can find details on [1]. Seems that his KMS and DRI are already disabled. drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 [drm] failed to load kernel module radeon (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM [dri] Disabling DRI. (II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktilruuth5qpddsccpikai1nacls998esvjgic...@mail.gmail.com
Re: advice on amd64
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 17:11, Celejar cele...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 18:58:48 -0500 Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: Jim McCloskey put forth on 7/5/2010 5:40 PM: If anyone here had advice to offer regarding this choice, I would very much appreciate hearing it, Allowing a single web plugin to dictate your course of action here is simply...sad. [I assume we're talking about flash.] Flash is not really required for Youtube; I actually have flash installed, but I hate using it, so I generally just grab the video with youtube-dl (or cclive) and play it with mplayer. And a fair number of Youtube videos are available in WebM now. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktim2jyshyhkwttkajhnnxatarxaheuuqjd_sx...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [SOLVED] switching to console and zapping
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 06:39, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: USB sucks for keyboard connections : The one I had to use before was an USB keyboard, and the responses to keystrokes were a hell of a lot slower than they are now with the PS/2 connection. It might be due to the keyboard, but I think it's an USB problem. I suspect it's more likely a problem of individual models of keyboards. I have never noticed lag attributable to the keyboard/connection with my USB keyboards (I actually just had some lag typing this, but experience indicates that's just Mozilla). And it is really amazing how shoddy some models/brands can be in various ways. USB does have more latency in general, but it shouldn't be noticeable to humans. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktilhzuan-jnbaxvzxpf7ygm-vbkdpabkjjy-d...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian support on newer 4K Advanced format drives (rather than 512 bytes)
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 14:31, Mike Viau vi...@sheridanc.on.ca wrote: Hello List, I was just wondering what some of the debian community users has been experiencing in regards to the new Western Digital 4K Advanced format drives? Has any one tried using one of these drives on the 2.6.26 (64/32 bit) kernel shipped with Lenny stable? How about with the 2.6.32 (64/32 bit) kernel shipped with squeeze testing? Is the support more dependant on the kernel or does debian already support these drives? Thanks in advance. Some relevant discussion, also check some of the links in the comments: http://lwn.net/Articles/377895/ Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimjehnhkfqyffmjog9oxm4zidl-9svsdmnjx...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Need dependency bug workaround for pulseaudio.
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 07:36, John W Foster jfoster81...@verizon.net wrote: I need dependency bug workaround for pulseaudio. I'm getting this error when I try to install pulseaudio. pulseaudio: Depends: libpulse0 (=0.9.21-1) but 0.9.21-1.2+b1 is to be installed Recommends: pulseaudio-module-x11 but it is not going to be installed Recommends: pulseaudio-esound-compat but it is not going to be installed I'd just use aptitude in interactive mode. I've never seen the point of trying to fiddle around with unusual dependency situations on the CLI when TUI mode is available. Also, it may just be a partially updated mirror issue - when you updated, it had received some, but not all of the new PA packages. Update again and try again in that case. I would install pulseaudio-module-x11 and pulseaudio-esound-compat as well. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktilfiqihcfknfwfek_jbugxw9iy1_8dr5qg5r...@mail.gmail.com
Re: X11 error at login: no screens found
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 05:07, Charles Blair c-bl...@illinois.edu wrote: I recently upgraded from etch to lenny, and most features of the system seemed to be working. After a day or two with the new system, I am getting a character-based screen to log in, instead of the X display. Below, I give the output from typing startx, and the xorg.conf file. It can't find the nv drivers, check that it is installed (package xserver-xorg-video-nv). And just to be modern and up-to-date, after you have that sorted out, you could try moving xorg.conf to xorg.conf.old and see if everything works that way (good chance it will). If you do need an xorg.conf, it will probably be just one section or so. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktin8rad_qemhk6lzwgbgjxgsafcblryo1nvjk...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Which version for CPU Intel Double Cores 64bits ?
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 04:17, Volkan YAZICI yazic...@ttmail.com wrote: Hi, On Sat, 26 Jun 2010, Bruno Costacurta tec...@costacurta.org writes: I just ordered a laptop with following CPU and vendor specifications - CPU: Intel Double Cores 64bits (ULV SU4100) - 2Mo cache - UltraLowVoltage 10W 1.3Ghz On Sat, 26 Jun 2010, Amrit Panesar apane...@4195tech.com writes: The AMD64 dist. would probably be the best for you You can find the latest amd64 ISOs on the Debian Site. http://www.debian.com/CD/http-ftp/ Shouldn't he be using ia64 port instead? Not unless he has a $10,000+ high-end server, since that the kind of systems Itanium is found in (competes with POWER and maybe high-end UltraSparcs) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itanium Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktil_mlwjthku99xkbppeifxnsy14ilwvz839o...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Nouveau driver and kernel 2.6.32-5
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 14:11, Arthur Barlow arthurbar...@gmail.com wrote: I recently updated my kernel from 2.6.32-3 to 2.6.32-5, (Squeeze on an x86 platform). I noticed on reboot that shortly after the kernel booted the screen switched to a frame buffer for the remaining loading messages. I have a desktop system that runs GNOME and so gdm started as usual and I logged in. However, I have three different CPUs that go through a kvm switch and I usually have to reset modeline settings via xvidtune in X for my Debian CPU. Can't you use xrandr for that? xvidtune no longer worked. I am using an Nvidia GeForce4 MX 4000 card. I hunted around and found that some combination of Freedesktop.org and the X group are now using kernel based X drivers or the KMS modes. It also appears that the nv driver disappeared and was replace by the nouveau driver. This new driver seems to be the source of my xvidtune problems. Does anyone on this list know who the appropriate group to send a bug report to would be? Thanks. Yes, Nvidia stopped maintaining nv, so people are moving to the community project Nouveau, which exclusively uses Kernel Mode Setting. You should probably report the bug to Debian with the reportbug utility, they will forward it upstream if they have to. The question, though, is is this a bug for xserver-xorg-video-nouveau, x11-xserver-utils (the package containing xvidtune), or even the kernel (the KMS interface)? Is there any sort of error when you try to use xvidtune, or anything in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimn3wjnmke_umm49rrm7sp-qwc775ewq3kcu...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Where is the Xorg.conf - to setup XKB layouts on Squeeze?
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 03:47, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 23:32:17 +0200, Paul Chany wrote: Phil Requirements writes: Yes, you need to create a simple xorg.conf, because they aren't used by default. I had to create xorg.conf on my system to specify some keyboard options. It works nicely. For me the command X -configure doesn't works, because the system hangs forever. What do you command use for xorg.conf to get it? Or, maybe it is there another way (udev rules maybe) to setup xkeyboard layouts? This is what I am using in Lenny in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file (the file is bigger, this is just the section for setting the keyboard). It should be still valid: *** Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout es EndSection *** That doesn't even work anymore, does it? At least for a while when the changeover first happened, I had that stuff in xorg.conf, but it had no effect until I put it in /etc/default/console-setup (later /etc/default/keyboard) Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktil1zgi75xj30w-ih-eay9_kgfg3xhpf2qprv...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Where is the Xorg.conf - to setup XKB layouts on Squeeze?
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 11:03, Paul Chany csanyi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, my system is Debian GNU/Linux Squeeze with linux-image-2.6.32-3-486. I have installed xserver-xorg-video-s3virge and have XWindow system running with Window Maker window manager. I'm using fookb-wmaker to switch XKeyboard layout for these layouts: Hungarian, Serbian Latin and Serbian Cyrillic. Unfortunately for this I have to have setup XKeyboard layouts in xorg.conf. I had this setup on Debian Lenny because there is the file /etc/X11/Xorg.conf but here on Squeeze I can't find any Xorg.conf. Without this setup I can't use fookb-wmaker. :( Where can I setup Xkeyboard layouts for XWindow system on Debian Squeeze? /etc/default/keyboard Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktil2dchynxtfdxux4vt5bosqrmbiqfgg7rbvg...@mail.gmail.com
Re: SCIM, anthy, and French
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 14:42, Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote: snip All I really want is for circumflex, apostrophe, backward apostrophe, quote, and perhaps comma to turn into dead keys so I can put accents on letters. Any other ideas? I think what you really need is one of the US international keyboard layouts or possibly just a compose key. IMs are mostly for complicated stuff, like CJK and some southeast Asian languages in /etc/default/keyboard XKBMODEL=pc104 XKBLAYOUT=us XKBVARIANT=intl or XKBVARIANT=alt-intl or XKBVARIANT=altgr-intl intl mostly gives you extra characters that you can type with altgr (right alt), e.g. altgrq to get ä, altgra to get á I haven't used alt-intl or altgr-intl myself, but I think it goes like this: alt-intl is deadkey oriented, meaning you type things like doublequotea to get ä. To get just you would type doublequotespacespace altgr-intl I believe gets you dead keys that are triggered only when you press the altgr and the would-be deadkey. This is somewhat(?) similar to using XKBOPTIONS=compose:altgr without a layout variant. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimizqvjyxnktvf0mgoxj2ptlmpcg_g9jymej...@mail.gmail.com
[OT] Bandwidth usage daemon recommendation
Anyone have a recommendation for a lightweight daemon (I don't need anything fancy like cacti) to monitor total bandwidth usage? Searches turn up quite a few, but many are unmaintained in recent years. Maybe they do everything they need to do, but I'd think there would be at least some small bug fixes. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkting7hianydqgvin5zmuiyfelr36bv9syx5dg...@mail.gmail.com
Re: ls has stopped using the ISO date format
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 21:17, Teemu Likonen tliko...@iki.fi wrote: * 2010-05-29 20:25 (-0700), Brian Marshall wrote: Recently, I noticed that the date format in the output from ls -l has changed in squeeze. Before, it used the ISO standard (2010-05-29 20:00) but now it's started printing May 29 20:00 or May 29 2009 if it's not the current year. I suspect it's coreutils' fault, because while the version of the locales package is about the same in Ubuntu and Debian (2.11 and 2.10), coreutils is significantly newer in Debian (8.5 compared to 7.4). Can anyone else confirm this issue? Is it a bug or a feature? How can I get ls to print the ISO date format again? Yes, the default has changed. You can change the default with TIME_STYLE environment variable, like this: export TIME_STYLE=long-iso I almost missed this thread, but it's a good thing I didn't. I had been using LC_TIME=en_DK.UTF-8 to get ISO format, but at some point that stopped working, and I couldn't figure out what had happened. And I have to agree with Camaleón and Ron that the ISO format is a lot less confusing. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktilia09sgraps3uverrqchcj7ugkp0hlovpgn...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Chromium in Sid
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 08:23, Steve Fishpaste marathon.duran...@gmail.com wrote: Good morning folks. Why is the Chromium-browser in Sid so old? Chromium has been on the 6.x branch for a couple of weeks now and Debian is still using the 5.x branch. In my opinion we should keep up with the new releases at least weekly. Is this on the agenda to do? What's wrong with Google's repo? deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ testing non-free It works fine on my Sid, and google-chrome-unstable has been at 6.0.x for some time. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinwgd-t-wfc92k2rvkihta4psfyrnr-stzog...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Chromium Xperience
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 19:15, KS list...@fastmail.fm wrote: Hi all, I have been an Iceweasel user since it entered Debian repositories. A few days ago I discovered that Chromium was also available for Debian and installed it. I feel it is more responsive and is faster than Iceweasel This could be due to Chromium using different task for every tab it opens and using its own window decorations (Iceweasel uses GTK+ and I use KDE). Even with each tab increasing the use of memory by about 30MB, it still feels faster than Iceweasel. No real tests done here, but Chromium does win for responsiveness to a casual user. Being an Iceweasel user with the Adblock+ extension, I'm accustomed to (almost) adfree web browsing. This hasn't worked as smoothly with Chromium. There is an Adblock extension available for Chromium, but it works in a different way that it shows the advertisement while the page is loading and then hides the element. This is not as clean as Iceweasel (firefox). In addition, the extension didn't block Google adverts! Iceweasel takes this round (very important). And then comes the topic of shortcuts. I love the / shortcut for Iceweasel, Chromium still uses the two-key combination of Ctrl+F! Another fast shortcut is the Ctrl+Shift+Del which brings up the priate data delete box. In Chromium one has to go through either preferences or first History Edit Items and then delete. Chromium was also behaving oddly when playing flash video on full screen. The video was full screen but behind the browser window! The Adblock+ advantage with Iceweasel is the one factor which might keep me away from Chromium unless better adblocking is implemented. What is the experience of other users who have tested out Chromium in Debian? I have the dev build installed. I used it a bit to play with Youtube's html5 version. I guess it's kind of fast, but I didn't really notice, although I didn't feel like using in a realistic browsing session of mine. I am kind of curious about how it would work when every session involves reopening 50-120 tabs (which is normal for me), but I can't tolerate the UI for that long -_- To the extent I did use it, it worked ok. On one of the dev updates, html5 audio was broken, but I filed a bug and it was soon fixed. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinjqgfuf7qsmb4hlexmgrs4j06wfgmehb8kr...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Flash is open?
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:22, Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: snip Javascript are real threats, because even if you use a Free Software implementation of the language, the code run in each web-page will usually be 100% proprietary. Oh come on. You might as well complain that the HTML of most web pages does not use the CC-BY (or similar) license. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktilbdftxuz0d9zk6l2wlm6wfublfz0mblmesx...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Programming question
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 18:34, Alexander Samad a...@samad.com.au wrote:
Hi
I was wondering if it is possible to decode this javascript from the
command line
var serializer = new Serializer()
serializer.deserialize('B64ENCe30=')
can't find any reference on how serialize works and can't find any
cmdline tools to help
A Javascript (or at least a general programming) mailing list/forum
might be a better place to ask.
Also some context might be nice. I am not a JS programmer, but
I think serializer could theoretically be anything. That said, JSON
is a common data format in JS, so you might look into that (although
I would expect something more like JSON.serialize() if it was).
Otherwise it might be XML of some sort.
I am really not sure what to make of the argument being passed
in, it looks like a it's talking about Base 64 encoding (B64ENC),
but why that's in the name I don't know
Cheers,
Kelly Clowers
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Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 06:56, Jordan Metzmeier titan8...@gmail.com wrote: Adobe's 64bit flash player does not function on all the sites that the 32bit plugin will. [citation needed] Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktiksgqch0hkksshukxpci9g3wiil-ecpr8gnj...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Switching from NV to Nouveau in Squeeze
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 08:06, Snood sn...@comcast.net wrote: Did some research on Nouveau drivers. Was about to download, compile, etc. Saw that xserver-xorg-video-nouveau package is now in the main repository. Does that mean that going through all the machinations is no longer necessary? If I tell aptitude (ncurses) to install the package it also indicates the need to install libdrm-nouveau1, but there's no sign that it's actually going to switch the system from nv to nouveau. I've looked for information, but I must be looking in all the wrong places. All I can find is information about how to install nouveau the old way. Can someone point me in the right direction? I don't have Nvidia myself, but tt should be a matter of installing Nouveau, and then changing the Driver line in /etc/x11/xorg.conf from nv to Nouveau (or adding the line in the Device section if it doesn't exist). Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikm5gibxdwxa0frr-o_yow5pg-kwgzbwkov8...@mail.gmail.com
Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:07, Jordan Metzmeier titan8...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 06:56, Jordan Metzmeier titan8...@gmail.com wrote: Adobe's 64bit flash player does not function on all the sites that the 32bit plugin will. [citation needed] Cheers, Kelly Clowers https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-4067 Fascinating. I get the same thing now, but some time back, I watched several episodes on Hulu with this system. I wonder what they changed? Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikzzphchntmfqj4tdeare_p3xmas54alxnyz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:15, Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:07, Jordan Metzmeier titan8...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 06:56, Jordan Metzmeier titan8...@gmail.com wrote: Adobe's 64bit flash player does not function on all the sites that the 32bit plugin will. [citation needed] Cheers, Kelly Clowers https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-4067 Fascinating. I get the same thing now, but some time back, I watched several episodes on Hulu with this system. I wonder what they changed? Huh, when I change my browsers UA to FF3 on Windows, I get this message: Sorry, we are unable to stream this video. Please check your internet connection and try again. Weird. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimp8ugrru0sqsi2ktpdxobyvgb35mfeo2hw_...@mail.gmail.com
Re: 64 bit-flash failing sites (was: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?)
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 09:48, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 11 May 2010 12:26:21 -0400, Jordan Metzmeier wrote: Users having problems with flash plugin on their 64 bits OS can install a 32 bits browser and run the 32 bits plugin, which is annoying but it should work. Does this work natively or does it require a chroot? Natively... AFAIK, I see two approaches: 1/ Firefox can be downloaded from Mozilla site (and Mozilla does not provide a 64-bit version for their browser, only 32-bit binaries). Once downloaded, no need to install anything, just click and run. Then, you can download the flash plugin (32 bits) and store it under Firefox plugins folder. They do provide 64-bit nightly builds, though. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktim-mdyzhnwxwhgdsm3o_auoidtjxd2ctnlss...@mail.gmail.com
Re: East Asian fonts in Lenny
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 09:24, Nima Azarbayjany i.adore.deb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, How do you add support for East Asian fonts in Debian Lenny? For example, a default install of Lenny does not show some of the fonts at the bottom of www.debian.org. Just use the package manager to install some of the fonts, e.g. ttf-arphic-* are Chinese, ttf-baekmuk and ttf-alee are Korean, ttf-kochi-* are Japanese (there are others as well). Also, the package unifont has a glyph for ever code point in the Basic Multilingual Plane. They may not be ideal, or the best looking, but it gives you something besides square boxes. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinnh5xbztnqlabotbtjht4trpfujg7zlx9rl...@mail.gmail.com
Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:32, Jordan Metzmeier titan8...@gmail.com wrote: I am curious, did you all receive duplicates of my last reply? Yep -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinggezvmrzhcelllupamo-ravmwv4e_tpeco...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Is Firefox/Iceweasel leaking?
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 10:58, Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be wrote: Hi, I noticed on many computers with Debian, whatever the kernel (2.6.xx, xx = 26), that, once ``too much'' tabs have been opened, Firefox/Iceweasel becomes sluggish, slower and slower, and often stalls after some time. I also noticed that, when becoming more and more sluggish, it takes more and more RAM, even when all the pages are completely loaded. Why? Am I the only person who's experiencing this? Is there an objective explanation to this? I dunno. I myself have never had serious memory problems with Mozilla or Firefox. In old versions of Mozilla (~0.9-1.7) and FF 1 and 2 there where definite limits to how many tabs I could open without crashing. With current versions, though, I can run over a hundred tabs with no problem. I am currently at ~1,250MB resident for SeaMonkey, but this doesn't seem unreasonable for how many tabs there are. It certainly doesn't grow over time (this instance has probably been running for 3 days or more), only with new tabs, or larger pages loaded into tabs. So many people report these problems, and they are clearly real, but I wonder why I have never had them, with different hardware (AMD and Intel), and different OSs (2K, XP, 7, and several version of Debian). Sorry, no real help, just my experiences. * note: I use the nightlies from Mozilla, rather than Iceweasel/Iceape. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/y2w1840f6971005071827o36b23598s54a0d9e157925...@mail.gmail.com
