Debian 9 bluetooth fails worked on Debian 8 (firmware) bluetooth hci0: firmware: failed to load brcm/BCM20702A1-0b05-17cf.hcd

2017-09-28 Thread Len Berman
I copied firmware from Deb8 to Deb9; however, the file name needed to
change from BCM20702A1-0b05-17cf.hcd to BCM20702A0-0b05-17cf.hcd, so
when I copied the file, it still didn't work.  It took a while to see
that the file mentioned in dmesg >>really<< wasn't present.

Don't let it happen to you.



Broadcom bluetooth on ASUS Z97-Pro WiFi ac

2015-09-12 Thread Len Berman
I'm running jessie on an ASUS z97-pro wifi ac motherboard and can't get
 bluetooth working.  This doesn't surprise me since the log message shows:

 kernel: [76077.598420] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM: patch
brcm/2070BCM2A0-0b05-17cf.hcd not found

I've googled this but haven't found anything that I can understand and I've
no idea how to proceed.

Would greatly appreciate any suggestions.  (Please copy me as I don't
subscribe to this list.)

Thanks for your time.

--Len

On the chance that it is relevant, I'm including the output of lspci here:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor DRAM
Controller (rev 06)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core
Processor PCI Express x16 Controller (rev 06)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th
Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)
00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core
Processor HD Audio Controller (rev 06)
00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 9 Series Chipset Family USB xHCI
Controller
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 9 Series Chipset Family
ME Interface #1
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection (2)
I218-V
00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 9 Series Chipset Family USB EHCI
Controller #2
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 9 Series Chipset Family HD Audio
Controller
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 9 Series Chipset Family PCI Express
Root Port 1 (rev d0)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 9 Series Chipset Family PCI Express
Root Port 4 (rev d0)
00:1c.6 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 9 Series Chipset Family PCI Express
Root Port 7 (rev d0)
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 9 Series Chipset Family USB EHCI
Controller #1
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 9 Series Chipset Family Z97 LPC
Controller
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 9 Series Chipset Family SATA
Controller [AHCI Mode]
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 9 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller
03:00.0 PCI bridge: ASMedia Technology Inc. Device 1184
04:01.0 PCI bridge: ASMedia Technology Inc. Device 1184
04:03.0 PCI bridge: ASMedia Technology Inc. Device 1184
04:05.0 PCI bridge: ASMedia Technology Inc. Device 1184
04:07.0 PCI bridge: ASMedia Technology Inc. Device 1184
05:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4352 802.11ac Wireless
Network Adapter (rev 03)
08:00.0 SATA controller: ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1062 Serial ATA
Controller (rev 02)
09:00.0 USB controller: ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1042A USB 3.0 Host
Controller


Re: Hibernate/resume fails after adding SSD to debian 7

2013-09-28 Thread Len Berman
I moved my SSD from SATA 1 - SATA 5 and reran update-initramfs.  The
resume now works.  Don't understand why this should be the case since all
disks are referenced by their UUIDs.


Hibernate/resume fails after adding SSD to debian 7

2013-09-27 Thread Len Berman
I added an SSD as follows:
1) added SSD (on SATA 1),
 2) updated /etc/uswsusp.conf,
 3) copied /usr and /opt to  SSD partitions,
 4) modified /etc/fstab to mount /usr  /opt partitions,
 5) ran update-grub2.

And resume fails after hibernate.  It used to work.  If I unplug the SSD,
it still works (after removing new partitions from fstab).

hibernate.log doesn't indicate a problem.  The failure causes journal
recovery on all partitions except /.

Can someone help?  I'm at a loss.  Thanks.

--Len

PS: Please respond directly to me as well as to list.  Thanks.

/var/log/hibernate.log:
Starting suspend at Thu Sep 26 13:40:17 EDT 2013
hibernate: [01] Executing CheckLastResume ...
hibernate: [01] Executing CheckRunlevel ...
hibernate: [01] Executing LockFileGet ...
hibernate: [01] Executing NewKernelFileCheck ...
hibernate: [10] Executing EnsureUSuspendCapable ...
hibernate: [11] Executing XHacksSuspendHook1 ...
hibernate: [59] Executing RemountXFSBootRO ...
hibernate: [89] Executing SaveKernelModprobe ...
hibernate: [91] Executing ModulesUnloadBlacklist ...
hibernate: [95] Executing XHacksSuspendHook2 ...
hibernate: [98] Executing CheckRunlevel ...
hibernate: [99] Executing DoUSuspend ...
hibernate: Running /usr/sbin/s2disk ...



/etc/uswsusp.conf:
resume device = /dev/disk/by-uuid/abec2610-c8d7-4a2c-98f7-cfa2b338fb9b
splash = y
compress = y
early writeout = y
image size = 5.6888e+09
RSA key file = /etc/uswsusp.key
shutdown method = platform

/etc/fstab
UUID=1796cdd5-7bf3-4334-a5cb-7aed099e57f7   /   ext3
 errors=remount-ro 0   1
#SSD
UUID=74c7d1c9-0807-4f40-99bf-55766f9ecaeb   /usrext4
 commit=100,noatime0   1
UUID=e70718c9-ee8a-4679-a486-be8e5be2821a   /optext4
 commit=100,noatime0   1
# /home was on /dev/sda5 during installation
UUID=488cfe1d-439f-45b7-82d0-fb3b31e9b1ee   /home   ext3
 defaults0   2
# swap was on /dev/sda1 during installation
UUID=abec2610-c8d7-4a2c-98f7-cfa2b338fb9b   noneswapsw
 0   0
/dev/sr0/media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660
user,noauto 0   0
/dev/sdd1   /media/usb0 auto
 rw,user,noauto  0   0
UUID=2ffe2063-c413-4cce-9007-a79f1ae9a122   /mnt/2TBext3
 defaults 0   2
UUID=9622-9733  /mnt/dane2GBauto
 rw,user,auto  0   0


--Len Berman


Squeeze with ATI video won't hibernate

2012-12-10 Thread Len Berman
Hi,
I have two debian machines running squeeze and configured (almost)
identically.  The laptop (Lenovo T430s) hibernates correctly, the desktop
does not.  My desktop has:

# cat /proc/meminfo
MemTotal:   12077024 kB
...
SwapTotal:  17583104 kB

The desktop has Radeon video card.

# lspci -v | grep VGA
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS880 [Radeon HD
4250] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])

I have installed the non-free firmware package.  The X.log indicates that
the radeon driver is being loaded.  I created xorg.conf as shown below.

When I try to hibernate the screen goes black and the machine does not
power down.  I show to X.log file behavior below after attempting to
hibernate.

Similarly, if I try to change virtual terminals (Ctl-Alt-#), the screen
goes black and I get the same error messages that occur when I try to
hibernate.

I believe that when I was running Lenny, hibernate and virtual terminals
both worked.  (It has been a while since I upgraded so I can't be 100%
certain.)

I'm happy to post any info that would help, but I'm at a loss.

I tried installing the ATI proprietary drivers (
http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary).  With those installed neither
hibernate nor  switching virtual terminals C-A-F# has any effect.

Any ideas greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

--Len Berman

# cat /sys/power/state
mem disk

# cat /sys/power/disk
[platform] test testproc shutdown reboot

# cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Section Device
Identifier Device0
Driver radeon
EndSection

 tail -f /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(II) RADEON(0): EDID (in hex):
(II) RADEON(0): 00004c2d7c0332325141
(II) RADEON(0): 24120103802f1e782a78f1a655489b26
(II) RADEON(0): 125054bfef80b30081808140714f0101
(II) RADEON(0): 0101010101017c2e90a0601a1e403020
(II) RADEON(0): 3600da28111a00fd00384b1e
(II) RADEON(0): 510e000a20202020202000fc0053
(II) RADEON(0): 796e634d61737465720a202000ff
(II) RADEON(0): 0048394e513930323537390a202000bd
(II) RADEON(0): EDID vendor SAM, prod id 892
--- Attempted to hibernate here
-
Output DIG0 transmitter setup success
Blank CRTC 0 success
Disable CRTC memreq 0 success
Disable CRTC 0 success
Blank CRTC 1 success
Disable CRTC memreq 1 success
Disable CRTC 1 success
(II) RADEON(0): RADEONRestoreMemMapRegisters() :
(II) RADEON(0):   MC_FB_LOCATION   : 0x00cf00c0 0x00cf00c0
(II) RADEON(0):   MC_AGP_LOCATION  : 0x0003
(EE) RADEON(0): Timeout trying to update memory controller settings !
(EE) RADEON(0): You will probably crash now ...
(EE) RADEON(0): Timeout trying to update memory controller settings !
(EE) RADEON(0): You will probably crash now ...
(EE) RADEON(0): Timeout trying to update memory controller settings !
(EE) RADEON(0): You will probably crash now ...
(EE) RADEON(0): Timeout trying to update memory controller settings !
(EE) RADEON(0): You will probably crash now ...
(EE) RADEON(0): Timeout trying to update memory controller settings !
(EE) RADEON(0): You will probably crash now ...


Controlling automount

2012-10-29 Thread Len Berman
I am running  Debian stable (Linux foobar 3.2.0-0.bpo.3-amd64 #1 SMP Thu
Aug 23 07:41:30 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux).

If  rhythmbox is up when I plug in my  digital camera, rhythmbox grabs it
as a 'removable device' and I cannot get photos from the camera.  (Apps
like gthumb or gphotofs fail.)  Once I eject the camera under rhythmbox,
these apps work OK and I can get the photos.

In the past, I was offered the choice of how/if removable devices were
treated.  I would like to configure the system so that I have a choice of
how to handle removable devices.

Can someone help.  Thanks.

--Len Berman


lenovo t430s wifi not working

2012-09-14 Thread Len Berman
I've just got a lenovo t430s and can't get the wifi working.  I installed

firmware-iwlwifi_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb
firmware-linux-free_2.6.32-45_all.deb
firmware-linux-nonfree_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb

but still no luck.

Has anyone got one of these working?

I've looked in dmesg and see nothing about missing firmware or wifi and I
don't know how to proceed.

Any suggestions about how to proceed or what info to post here would be
greatly appreciated.

--Len


Re: Re: lenovo t430s wifi not working

2012-09-14 Thread Len Berman
Thanks Brian.
 Let's first check what the chipset is. Please post the output of the
 command 'lspci', or the line referring to the device in the machine
 which deals with wireless, You could also say how you are trying to
 get WiFI working.

The output of lspci is at the bottom of the post.  Looks like

  03:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE
802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01)

is the piece that deals with wifi.  After seeing this, I
installed firmware-realtek_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb; however the indicator
light for the wifi is still not on.  The closest to this device that I can
find in /var/log/messages is

Sep 14 12:41:27 t430s kernel: [6.050043] rtl8192ce :03:00.0: PCI
INT A - GSI 17 (level, low) - IRQ 17
Sep 14 12:41:27 t430s kernel: [6.233937] rtl8192ce :03:00.0: PCI
INT A disabled

But I don't know whether that is relevant or something completely different.

I've been kind of assuming that once the indicator light comes on, I will
then be able to configure the wireless using one of the network tools
included with gnome or kde.  That has always worked for me before.

Thanks again for the help.
--Len


0:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Device 0154 (rev 09)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 0166 (rev 09)
00:14.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation Device 1e31 (rev 04)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Device 1e3a (rev 04)
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82579LM Gigabit Network
Connection (rev 04)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation Device 1e2d (rev 04)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Device 1e20 (rev 04)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 1e10 (rev c4)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 1e12 (rev c4)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 1e14 (rev c4)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 1e18 (rev c4)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation Device 1e26 (rev 04)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Device 1e55 (rev 04)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation Device 1e03 (rev 04)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation Device 1e22 (rev 04)
03:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE
802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01)


Sound in squeeze: devices stopped being found

2012-01-24 Thread Len Berman
Hi,
I just rebooted after the latest update and my sound is gone.  Any
help would be appreciated.  I've posted some things that may be useful
below; however, I'm not very knowledgeable so I may not have included
the information needed.  Please let me know.

Thanks,.
--Len

The KDE Control module shows the following devices grayed out:

OUTPUT: HDA ATI SB (ALC892 Analog)
 HDA ATI HDMI, HDMI 0 (HDMI Audio Output)
CAPTURE: HDA ATI SB (ALC892 Analog)

I am unable to run alsamixer (which I have used before).

   root@foobar:/home/berman# alsamixer
   cannot open mixer: No such file or directory

kmix (which has always opened when I start X) shows no devices.  There
is a message box labelled 'Removed Sound Devices' which lists 3
internal devices which it claims were removed (NOT true).

 lspci -v  shows:

00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)
        Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems Device 29a5
        Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 64, IRQ 10
        Memory at fe6f8000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
        Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2

01:05.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RS880 Audio Device [Radeon HD 4200]
        Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems Device 2258
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
        Memory at fe8e8000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
        Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3
        Capabilities: [a0] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+


 However, on loading X  there are many, many errors from ALSA:

ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) ALSA lib
confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'cannot find card '0'

ALSA lib conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) ALSA lib
conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver
returned error: No such file or directoryfunction snd_func_card_driver
returned error: No such file or directory

ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) ALSA lib
confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating stringserror
evaluating strings

ALSA lib conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) ALSA lib
conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned
error: No such file or directoryfunction snd_func_concat returned
error: No such file or directory

ALSA lib confmisc.c:1251:(snd_func_refer) ALSA lib
confmisc.c:1251:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating nameerror evaluating
name

ALSA lib conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) ALSA lib
conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned
error: No such file or directoryfunction snd_func_refer returned
error: No such file or directory

ALSA lib conf.c:4649:(snd_config_expand) ALSA lib
conf.c:4649:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or
directoryEvaluate error: No such file or directory

ALSA lib pcm.c:2190:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) ALSA lib
pcm.c:2190:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM defaultUnknown PCM
default

ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
ALSA lib conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) function
snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
ALSA lib conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1251:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
ALSA lib conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:4649:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file
or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2190:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
ALSA lib conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) function
snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
ALSA lib conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1251:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
ALSA lib conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:4649:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file
or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2190:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
ALSA lib conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) function
snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
ALSA lib conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1251:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
ALSA lib conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:4649:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file
or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2190:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
ALSA lib 

Re: Re: Lenny: Rhythmbox, mp3, sound problems

2009-04-22 Thread Len Berman
I started rhythmbox from the command line.  It started up immediately. 
The last three lines were the message when I tried to play something. 
Still no sound; however, I coudn't get it to freeze.

Thanks.

--Len


../home/berman: rhythmbox

(rhythmbox:3731): Rhythmbox-WARNING **: Unable to grab media player
keys: Could not get owner of name 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon': no such name
I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
I: caps.c: Dropping root privileges.
I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
../home/berman:


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Lenny: Rhythmbox, mp3, sound problems

2009-04-20 Thread Len Berman
Hi,

I am having problems with sound and the rhythmbox player.  Unfortunately,
the problems are not completely repeatable.  The problem seems to have
started when Lenny went stable and I switched from tracking Lenny to the
stable.

There are a bunch of problems.
 1) The rhythmbox GUI doesn't open unless it is started twice.  This happens
every time.
 2) When I play an mp3, there is no sound.  The progress bar (usually)
moves, but no sound.   Actually, sometimes things play, but this is rare,
usually no sound.  Skype works.  Sometimes videos played through the browser
have worked.  At this moment, gkrellm with xmmsd is working.  BTW, I tried
an ogg file and that wouldn't play in rhythmbox either.
 3) If I have started and paused an attempted playback - so the rhythmbox
GUI shows pause - and I cover the GUI and then try to redisplay, sometimes
the GUI is frozen, i.e. the display does not refresh.
 4) If I pause rhythmbox and try to start it again, it frequently crashes.

This seems like something involving threads - I do have a dual core CPU;
however, I clearly have no idea what is happening or how to proceed.
Unfortunately, I really like the rhythmbox GUI.

I'm not sure what sort of debugging output to include.  I've included some
things I've seen in previous sound related messages.

Thanks for your time.

Len Berman


../home/berman: lsmod | grep snd
snd_hda_intel 325688  8
snd_pcm_oss32832  0
snd_mixer_oss  12320  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm62596  4 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_dummy   2660  0
snd_seq_oss24992  0
snd_seq_midi5728  0
snd_rawmidi18528  1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_midi_event  6432  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq41456  6
snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_timer  17800  4 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device  6380  5
snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
snd45604  21
snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
soundcore   6368  1 snd
snd_page_alloc  7816  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
../home/berman:  cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [Intel  ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
  HDA Intel at 0xfdff8000 irq 16
../home/berman:


problem recording sound: etch creative audigy

2007-05-09 Thread Len Berman
I have a dual boot box.  etch  WinXP.  The MB is a
Soyo KT333 Dragon Lite.  I am having trouble recording
sound (in particular using Skype).  I disabled the
onboard sound since I couldn't get that to work with
either XP or etch.

I bought and installed a Creative Audigy SE.  This
works fine in XP; however, in etch I can hear sound
(speaker-test) but can't figure out how to configure
the mike.

I really don't know where to start with this.  Any
suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
--Len


 

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/var/lib/dpkg/status shows on installed packages

2006-05-07 Thread Len Berman
I just installed sarge on a new machine and NO packages in status are
listed as not-installed.  I'm using synaptic and it knows that there are
packages which are not installed.  (I discovered this using and old
script I had written which used dpkg-awk to find documentation packages
that are not installed.)

When I look at packages in dselect they all seem to be labelled 'n'.

I'm wondering if there is a way to get this information corrected.

Thanks.
--Len


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procmail problem - loosing subject field

2002-02-21 Thread Len Berman

Hi,
I have one system on which if I have a .procmailrc, and I open mail, and 
then quit out, the subject line
of my mail is lost.  I've attached a session which illustrates the 
difference.


I've noticed that  the size of the mail changes by 2/11 when procmail 
runs and the subject vanishes,
and 1/10 when there is no procmailrc.  On my other systems where I don't 
have this problem, it is always 1/10.


The difference in /var/spool/mail/guest (before and after quiting out of 
mail) without procmail is:

: 5374 6174 7573 3a20 4f0a Status: O.
with procmail it is:
: 5374 6174 7573 3a20 4f0a 0a  Status: O..

I am running the testing distribution on both working and non-working 
system.


Any ideas on how to fix this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
--Len

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -al .procmailrc
-rw-r--r--1 guestguest   0 Feb 21 22:30 .procmailrc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo hi | mail -s guest guest
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mail
Mail version 8.1.2 01/15/2001.  Type ? for help.
/var/spool/mail/guest: 1 message 1 new
N  1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Thu Feb 21 22:30   16/499   guest
 x
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mail
Mail version 8.1.2 01/15/2001.  Type ? for help.
/var/spool/mail/guest: 1 message 1 new
N  1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Thu Feb 21 22:30   16/499   guest
 q
Held 1 message in /var/spool/mail/guest
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mail
Mail version 8.1.2 01/15/2001.  Type ? for help.
/var/spool/mail/guest: 1 message 1 unread
U  1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Thu Feb 21 22:30   18/510
 d
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ rm .procmailrc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -al .procmailrc
ls: .procmailrc: No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo hi | mail -s guest guest
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mail
Mail version 8.1.2 01/15/2001.  Type ? for help.
/var/spool/mail/guest: 1 message 1 new
N  1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Thu Feb 21 22:31   14/414   guest
 q
Held 1 message in /var/spool/mail/guest
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mail
Mail version 8.1.2 01/15/2001.  Type ? for help.
/var/spool/mail/guest: 1 message 1 unread
U  1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Thu Feb 21 22:31   15/424   guest
 Held 1 message in /var/spool/mail/guest
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$