Untrusted packages
I'm running Sid. I'm trying to install sun-java6-plugin, but aptitude is giving me 'untrusted package' warnings: moe:~# aptitude install sun-java6-plugin Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Reading extended state information Initializing package states... Done Reading task descriptions... Done The following NEW packages will be installed: odbcinst1debian1{a} sun-java6-bin{a} sun-java6-jre{a} sun-java6-plugin unixodbc{a} 0 packages upgraded, 5 newly installed, 0 to remove and 7 not upgraded. Need to get 33.5MB of archives. After unpacking 96.2MB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed! Untrusted packages could compromise your system's security. You should only proceed with the installation if you are certain that this is what you want to do. odbcinst1debian1 sun-java6-bin unixodbc sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin Do you want to ignore this warning and proceed anyway? To continue, enter Yes; to abort, enter No: n Unrecognized input. Enter either Yes or No. Do you want to ignore this warning and proceed anyway? To continue, enter Yes; to abort, enter No: no Abort. A search of the archives recommends that I have the debian-archive-keyring installed. Which I do have installed: moe:~# dpkg -l | grep keyring ii debian-archive-keyring 2009.01.31 GnuPG archive keys of the Debian archive ii debian-keyring 2009.04.04 GnuPG (and obsolete PGP) keys of Debian Deve ii gnome-keyring2.26.0-4 GNOME keyring services (daemon and tools) ii libgnome-keyring02.26.0-4 GNOME keyring services library ii libpam-gnome-keyring 2.26.0-4 PAM module to unlock the GNOME keyring upon ii python-gnomekeyring 2.24.1-1+b3 Python bindings for the GNOME keyring librar So I'm not sure why I'm getting these warnings. What do I need to do to correct these warnings? Thanks, Mike -- UNIX is many things to many people, but it has never been everything to anybody. 01:15:01 up 5 days, 3:44, 2 users, load average: 0.98, 0.90, 0.89 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Untrusted packages
Harry Rickards wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/10/09 07:24, M. Lewis wrote: I'm running Sid. I'm trying to install sun-java6-plugin, but aptitude is giving me 'untrusted package' warnings: [..snip..] Thanks, Mike What repository are you installing these packages from? Cat your sources.list for us, and copy it into Pastebin. (cat /etc/sources.list) Thanks. - -- Many thanks Harry Rickards Pastebin thinks it's spam for some reason. I'm running approx on another server. The approx config is: rattler:~# cat /etc/approx/approx.conf # Here are some examples of remote repository mappings. # See http://www.debian.org/mirror/list for mirror sites. # #debian http://ftp.debian.org/debian #security http://security.debian.org/debian-security #volatile http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile # # These are the settings for use with approx # #debian http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/debian/ #debian http://mirrors.xmission.com/debian debian http://mirrors.acm.jhu.edu/debian/ securityhttp://security.debian.org/debian-security deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian volatilehttp://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile #debian ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian experimental main contrib non-free #deb-srcftp://ftp.debian.org/debian experimental main contrib non-free virtualbox http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian -- REALITY.DAT not found. Atempting to restore Universe.. 04:25:01 up 5 days, 6:54, 2 users, load average: 0.75, 0.99, 0.86 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Untrusted packages
Jochen Schulz wrote: M. Lewis: WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed! This can always happen if your (aptitude|apt-get) update happens in the middle of your mirror being updated from the main repository. Maybe you just need to update again. J. Good to know Jochen! Thanks, apparently that was it. Today the install went fine, no warnings. Thanks, Mike -- RAM DISK is not an installation procedure! 20:20:01 up 5 days, 22:49, 2 users, load average: 0.33, 0.52, 0.55 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Aptitude issue
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 23:43:02 -0500, M. Lewis wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 17:50:48 -0500, M. Lewis wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 03:07:50 -0500, M. Lewis wrote: I'm having an issue with Aptitude that I'm not sure how to correct. I was having an issue with OpenOffice so I decided the easiest way to resolve the problem might be to completely remove it, then re-install it. That is when the problem began. Aptitude hung trying to remove openoffice.org-writer2latex. [...] Thanks Florian. Commenting out 2 thru x lines of the script in fact worked. I was able to do a aptitude update aptitude full-upgrade. Next when I went to add openoffice.org back in, the silly thing hangs right back at the same package: rattler:~# aptitude install openoffice.org [...] Updating fontconfig cache for /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-liberation Setting up openoffice.org-officebean (1:2.4.1-17+b1) ... Setting up openoffice.org-writer2latex (0.5-8) ... Adding extension /usr/lib/openoffice/share/extension/install/writer2latex.uno.pkg... I would try this (I cannot guarantee anything, though): 1) Uninstall openoffice again completely, using the same trick for the problematic pre-removal script. 2) Purge all openoffice packages that still have configuration files on your system, using this command: aptitude purge '~nopenoffice~c' 3) Check /usr/lib/openoffice/share/extension/ and its sub-folders. If there are any files left then you probably have to remove them manually. 4) Try to install openoffice again and keep your fingers crossed. Florian, thank you so much. That did the trick. I was able to remove it completely (verified via dpkg -l | grep office). I was then able to install it successfully, and now OO works where it did not work before. Thank you so much for your time and patience!! Mike -- The wise person writes bomb-proof code. 00:40:01 up 4 days, 21:32, 2 users, load average: 0.51, 0.60, 0.54 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Aptitude issue
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 17:50:48 -0500, M. Lewis wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 03:07:50 -0500, M. Lewis wrote: I'm having an issue with Aptitude that I'm not sure how to correct. I was having an issue with OpenOffice so I decided the easiest way to resolve the problem might be to completely remove it, then re-install it. That is when the problem began. Aptitude hung trying to remove openoffice.org-writer2latex. [...] Now the problem is that the function flush_unopkg_cache is empty since its only instruction has been commented out and shells tend not to like that. I should have realized that my somewhat vague instructions could lead to this problem. Anyway, if unopkg does not work anymore for you then you might as well comment out the entire script from line 2 to the end and be done with it. (The only purpose of the pre-removal script seems to be ensuring that unopkg is invoked correctly, but that horse has left the barn already on your system.) Thanks Florian. Commenting out 2 thru x lines of the script in fact worked. I was able to do a aptitude update aptitude full-upgrade. Next when I went to add openoffice.org back in, the silly thing hangs right back at the same package: rattler:~# aptitude install openoffice.org Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Reading extended state information Initializing package states... Done Reading task descriptions... Done The following NEW packages will be installed: libblas3gf{a} libgfortran3{a} liblapack3gf{a} libsuitesparse-3.1.0{a} libwps-0.1-1{a} lp-solve{a} openoffice.org openoffice.org-base{a} openoffice.org-base-core{a} openoffice.org-calc{a} openoffice.org-draw{a} openoffice.org-emailmerge{a} openoffice.org-filter-binfilter{a} openoffice.org-filter-mobiledev{a} openoffice.org-impress{a} openoffice.org-math{a} openoffice.org-officebean{a} openoffice.org-report-builder-bin{a} openoffice.org-writer{a} openoffice.org-writer2latex{a} python-uno{a} ttf-liberation{a} 0 packages upgraded, 22 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 12.8MB/38.8MB of archives. After unpacking 101MB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] Writing extended state information... Done Get:1 http://10.10.10.1 lenny/main libwps-0.1-1 0.1.2-1 [60.7kB] ... [snip] ... Updating fontconfig cache for /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-liberation Setting up openoffice.org-officebean (1:2.4.1-17+b1) ... Setting up openoffice.org-writer2latex (0.5-8) ... Adding extension /usr/lib/openoffice/share/extension/install/writer2latex.uno.pkg... -- You can't go home again, unless you set $HOME. 23:35:01 up 3 days, 20:27, 2 users, load average: 0.64, 0.53, 0.42 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Aptitude issue
I'm having an issue with Aptitude that I'm not sure how to correct. I was having an issue with OpenOffice so I decided the easiest way to resolve the problem might be to completely remove it, then re-install it. That is when the problem began. Aptitude hung trying to remove openoffice.org-writer2latex. I ended up aborting the process and went on about my business. Tonight I needed to install ksensors on the same machine when the OpenOffice problem again reared its ugly head. rattler:~# aptitude install ksensors Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Reading extended state information Initializing package states... Done Writing extended state information... Done Reading task descriptions... Done The following NEW packages will be installed: hddtemp{a} ksensors The following packages will be REMOVED: openoffice.org-writer2latex{u} 0 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 1 to remove and 5 not upgraded. Need to get 355kB of archives. After unpacking 434kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] Writing extended state information... Done Get:1 http://10.10.10.1 lenny/main ksensors 0.7.3-16 [301kB] Get:2 http://10.10.10.1 lenny/main hddtemp 0.3-beta15-44 [54.1kB] Fetched 355kB in 1s (191kB/s) Preconfiguring packages ... (Reading database ... 182769 files and directories currently installed.) Removing openoffice.org-writer2latex ... At this point, aptitude will sit here for as long as you are willing to wait. On another terminal, I did 'ps ax'. The relevant portions follow: 4726 pts/3Sl+0:03 aptitude install ksensors 4757 pts/6Ss+0:00 /usr/bin/dpkg --status-fd 24 --force-depends --force-remove-essential --remove openoffice.org-writer2latex 4758 pts/6S+ 0:00 /bin/sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/openoffice.org-writer2latex.prerm remove 4759 pts/6S+ 0:00 /bin/sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/openoffice.org-writer2latex.prerm remove 4760 pts/6S+ 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/openoffice/program/unopkg list --shared 4761 pts/6S+ 0:00 grep Identifier:.*writer2latex 4762 pts/6S+ 0:00 cut -d: -f2 4780 pts/6S+ 0:00 /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2 4 4802 pts/6R+ 0:11 /usr/lib/openoffice/program/unopkg.bin list --shared -env:JFW_PLUGIN_DO_NOT_CHECK_ACCESSIBILITY=1 -env:UNO_JAVA_JFW_INSTALL_DATA=$$ORIGIN/../share/config/javasettingsunopkginstall.xml -env:UserInstallation=fi 4803 pts/4R+ 0:00 ps ax How can I go about resolving this issue? would it be safe to manually delete: /var/lib/dpkg/info/openoffice.org-write2latex.prerm /usr/lib/openoffice/program/unopkg.bin I'm guessing the answer to this would be no as I think it would corrupt the dpkg database. Thanks for any clues! Mike -- IBM: Interesting But Mundane 02:55:01 up 1 day, 23:47, 2 users, load average: 0.35, 0.34, 0.34 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Aptitude issue
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 03:07:50 -0500, M. Lewis wrote: I'm having an issue with Aptitude that I'm not sure how to correct. I was having an issue with OpenOffice so I decided the easiest way to resolve the problem might be to completely remove it, then re-install it. That is when the problem began. Aptitude hung trying to remove openoffice.org-writer2latex. That indicates a problem with the pre-removal script of this package; aptitude cannot do much about that. I ended up aborting the process and went on about my business. Tonight I needed to install ksensors on the same machine when the OpenOffice problem again reared its ugly head. The openoffice.org-writer2latex package is in a broken state on your system (incomplete removal), therefore aptitude has to try to fix it before it can perform actions on other packages. rattler:~# aptitude install ksensors [...] Removing openoffice.org-writer2latex ... At this point, aptitude will sit here for as long as you are willing to wait. On another terminal, I did 'ps ax'. The relevant portions follow: 4726 pts/3Sl+0:03 aptitude install ksensors 4757 pts/6Ss+0:00 /usr/bin/dpkg --status-fd 24 --force-depends --force-remove-essential --remove openoffice.org-writer2latex 4758 pts/6S+ 0:00 /bin/sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/openoffice.org-writer2latex.prerm remove 4759 pts/6S+ 0:00 /bin/sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/openoffice.org-writer2latex.prerm remove 4760 pts/6S+ 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/openoffice/program/unopkg list --shared 4761 pts/6S+ 0:00 grep Identifier:.*writer2latex 4762 pts/6S+ 0:00 cut -d: -f2 4780 pts/6S+ 0:00 /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2 4 4802 pts/6R+ 0:11 /usr/lib/openoffice/program/unopkg.bin list --shared -env:JFW_PLUGIN_DO_NOT_CHECK_ACCESSIBILITY=1 -env:UNO_JAVA_JFW_INSTALL_DATA=$$ORIGIN/../share/config/javasettingsunopkginstall.xml -env:UserInstallation=fi [...] It seems that the pre-removal script gets stuck while trying to determine the full name of the writer2latex extension. You can try this yourself: /usr/lib/openoffice/program/unopkg list --shared | grep latex If that command comes up empty or if it hangs then you might have to comment out every invocation of /usr/lib/openoffice/program/unopkg in /var/lib/dpkg/info/openoffice.org-writer2latex.prerm and run aptitude install -f to get the broken package off your system. Hey Florian. Unfortunately this did not work. The command unopkg did in fact hang. I did comment out all of the occurrences of unopkg in /var/lib/dpkg/info/openoffice.org-writer2latex.prerm and ran 'aptitude install -f' as you said. Here is the result: rattler:~# aptitude install -f Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Reading extended state information Initializing package states... Done Reading task descriptions... Done The following NEW packages will be installed: hddtemp ksensors The following packages will be REMOVED: openoffice.org-writer2latex{u} The following packages will be upgraded: libicu38 libkrb53 libmp3lame0 libssl0.9.8 openssl 5 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/11.0MB of archives. After unpacking 504kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] Reading changelogs... Done Preconfiguring packages ... (Reading database ... 182769 files and directories currently installed.) Removing openoffice.org-writer2latex ... /var/lib/dpkg/info/openoffice.org-writer2latex.prerm: line 7: syntax error near unexpected token `}' dpkg: error processing openoffice.org-writer2latex (--remove): subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 2 Errors were encountered while processing: openoffice.org-writer2latex E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) A package failed to install. Trying to recover: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Reading extended state information Initializing package states... Done Reading task descriptions... Done Thanks, Mike -- Where the system is concerned, you are not allowed to ask Why?. 17:45:01 up 2 days, 14:37, 2 users, load average: 0.29, 0.27, 0.23 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
OT - Video card opinions
I've been a long time user of Nvidia for my video cards. I'm doing some upgrades to my machine and am considering a pair of Radeon HD 4830s in crossfire mode. I'm stuck between that or sticking with Nvidia and going for a GeForce 9800GT. My understanding is the combination of the two Radeon's in crossfire will blow away the Nvidia performance wise. I'd like to know any opinions concerning this choice and also are there any configuration issues with the pair of Radeon cards in X. Thanks in advance for your thoughts, Mike -- This message transmitted on 100% recycled electrons. 07:00:01 up 4 days, 9:08, 2 users, load average: 0.24, 0.24, 0.19 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: OT - Video card opinions
Dotan Cohen wrote: I've been a long time user of Nvidia for my video cards. I'm doing some upgrades to my machine and am considering a pair of Radeon HD 4830s in crossfire mode. I'm stuck between that or sticking with Nvidia and going for a GeForce 9800GT. My understanding is the combination of the two Radeon's in crossfire will blow away the Nvidia performance wise. I'd like to know any opinions concerning this choice and also are there any configuration issues with the pair of Radeon cards in X. Thanks in advance for your thoughts, Mike What are you using the machines for? Gaming? On Linux? General workstation, Linux. Perhaps gaming, although that would be a very small portion of the consideration. -- IBM: Intersmashable Byte manipulators 07:25:01 up 4 days, 9:33, 2 users, load average: 0.55, 0.43, 0.37 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: OT - Video card opinions
Kelly Clowers wrote: On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 05:11, M. Lewis ca...@cajuninc.com wrote: I've been a long time user of Nvidia for my video cards. I'm doing some upgrades to my machine and am considering a pair of Radeon HD 4830s in crossfire mode. I'm stuck between that or sticking with Nvidia and going for a GeForce 9800GT. My understanding is the combination of the two Radeon's in crossfire will blow away the Nvidia performance wise. Well, yes in 3d mode, when used for games (or GPGPU). For 2d stuff, I don't think there is much difference, and for basic 3d (such as compiz fusion), *any* Radeon 4xxx or GeForce 9xxx series will be more than enough. I'd like to know any opinions concerning this choice and also are there any configuration issues with the pair of Radeon cards in X. I actually have no idea what the crossfire situation on Linux is. For the Nvidia, you have the 2d FOSS driver or the 3d binary driver, and that will not change for some time. For ATI, you have working 2d from the FOSS RadeonHD driver, and 3d from the binary driver. However, 3d support is coming along quite well in RadeonHD, it might be ready in 6 months or so. These days, the binary ati driver is better than the binary nvidia driver. If I was going to get a fairly powerful video card right now, I would get an r500 series Radeon (Radeon 1xxx), and use the Radeon driver for 2d and 3d. If I was going to wait, I would wait till q3/q4 of this year and assess the driver situation for the Radeon 4xxx series. Cheers, Kelly Clowers Thanks Kelly Jeff. That is exactly the type of information I was looking for. Thanks, Mike -- Life isn't fair. Having the root password helps. 17:00:01 up 4 days, 19:08, 2 users, load average: 0.16, 0.08, 0.07 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Copy data from a failed LVM drive
Stefan Monnier wrote: I had a drive failure (SMART errors) on a drive with LVM. I've replaced the drive, but now need to copy the data from the old drive. How can I do this? Vgscan only shows the VG of the 'current' drive. Are both drives connected? If so, have you created different VGs on each drive? Yes, both drives are connected and have different VGs. Hmm... so they have different VGs but `vgscan' only shows one of the two? That's odd. How are the drives connected? What does pvscan -vvv say? FWIW, here's how I'd ideally do the replacement: 1 - plug in the new drive. Let's say it appears as /dev/sdb 2 - partition it with `fdisk' so I have 1 large partition /dev/sdb1. 3 - pvcreate /dev/sdb1 4 - vgextend VG /dev/sdb1 (where VG is your old volume group name) 5 - pvmove /dev/sda1 (where /dev/sda1 is the physical volume on the old drive) 6 - vgreduce VG /dev/sda1 7 - pvremove /dev/sda1 8 - remove old drive Stefan This worked perfectly Stefan. Thank you very much. This made it so easy. Mike -- Congratulations! You are the one-millionth user to log into our system. 23:05:01 up 4:24, 2 users, load average: 0.15, 0.12, 0.04 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny + Dell PE 2970 [solved]
M. Lewis wrote: Mark Goldshtein wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:40 PM, M. Lewis cajun@ wrote: Thorny wrote: On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:58:32 -0500, M. Lewis posted: I'm trying to install Lenny on a Dell Power Edge 2970 with little success. The problem I'm running into is installing grub. My .iso images check with md5sum correctly. With three different DVDs, I get the error: Unable to install grub in (hd0) Executing 'grub-install (hd0)' failed This is a fatal error. [...] Lets have a look at your /boot/grub/device.map I didn't look at that, but now when I try to mount /dev/sda1 it's telling me it is an invalid filesystem. Fdisk shows nothing now. This gets more frustrating as it goes along. Hey, man! Think positively :) We are thinking about you! It is Friday, have a beer :) Maybe you should look for that partitioning utility on vendor web site? Maybe the HDD should be pre-partitioned with that util before any OS installation? I've had several beers dealing with this thing already. A few more sounds good. I'll try that Mark. Stranger things have happened. Thanks, Mike It was defiantly the brewskis that did the trick. Lenny is finally installed along with GRUB. In preparation to get the /boot/grub/device.map I could not mount the HD. I did an fdisk -l and didn't see anything abnormal. I started fdisk, and then I saw something different. I didn't document the exact message as I didn't know at the time that would be the cure. The message was something along the lines the drive could not be read as it did not have a valid partition table that fdisk recognized. I continued in fdisk and did 'o create a new empty DOS partition table', wrote the changes and exited fdisk. After this, I tried an amd64 netinst CD (previously I was using DVD #1). The installation went as you would expect, including GRUB. No issues at all. The only thing I can figure, is somehow the 'utility' partition that Dell had put on the HD made the HD partially inaccessible to the Debian Installer. Maybe it had some strange partition table, hidden or something. Again, I don't know for certain this was the case, but that is the only thing I did differently other than using the netinst which *shouldn't* have made any difference. Thanks to all for your help. Hopefully if someone else runs into this, this might help them. Thanks, Mike -- It is easier to write an incorrect program than understand a correct one. 03:00:01 up 6:25, 2 users, load average: 0.16, 0.43, 0.31 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Copy data from a failed LVM drive
I had a drive failure (SMART errors) on a drive with LVM. I've replaced the drive, but now need to copy the data from the old drive. How can I do this? Vgscan only shows the VG of the 'current' drive. Thanks, Mike -- A bad random number generator: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 4.33e+67, 1, 1, 1 15:40:01 up 19:05, 2 users, load average: 0.12, 0.17, 0.17 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Copy data from a failed LVM drive
Stefan Monnier wrote: I had a drive failure (SMART errors) on a drive with LVM. I've replaced the drive, but now need to copy the data from the old drive. How can I do this? Vgscan only shows the VG of the 'current' drive. Are both drives connected? If so, have you created different VGs on each drive? Stefan Yes, both drives are connected and have different VGs. -- To iterate is human; to recurse, divine. 16:30:01 up 19:55, 2 users, load average: 0.38, 0.27, 0.22 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny + Dell PE 2970
Mark Goldshtein wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:58 AM, M. Lewis cajun@ wrote: I'm trying to install Lenny on a Dell Power Edge 2970 with little success. The problem I'm running into is installing grub. My .iso images check with md5sum correctly. With three different DVDs, I get the error: Unable to install grub in (hd0) Executing 'grub-install (hd0)' failed This is a fatal error. Would you like to give us a more detailed picture? I mean, what was initial status of you hard drive? What with partitions, do you re-partition the hard drive entirely? What kind of install you are using (automated, expert)? Have you checked the laptop BIOS if there any restrictions to write to hard drive MBR or any other area of your hard drive? Have you checked the laptop BIOS for different hard drive interfaces switch (e.g. SATA, PATA, SATA+PATA, etc)? New box, off the 'shelf'. No partitions there unless Dell put them on to begin with. It was purchased without an O/S. Hard drive was repartitioned during the (manual) graphic install. LVM, separate /home /boot, etc. It's not a laptop, it's a rackmount server. I see *nothing* in the BIOS that could prevent me from writing to HDs. Yes, I did switch from QDMA mode on the SATA drives to ATA, with no apparent change. The machine has a Dell SAS 6 Host Bus Adapter. I see nothing in the configuration there that would prevent writing to the HD. Of course I could have missed something in the BIOS, or in the HBA setup, but looks like I would have seen it as many times as I have been in there looking for clues. Thanks, Mike -- Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature. - Kulawiec 04:55:01 up 12:49, 2 users, load average: 0.09, 0.17, 0.15 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny + Dell PE 2970
Mark Goldshtein wrote: 2009/3/20 M. Lewis cajun@: New box, off the 'shelf'. No partitions there unless Dell put them on to begin with. It was purchased without an O/S. Hard drive was repartitioned during the (manual) graphic install. LVM, separate /home /boot, etc. It's not a laptop, it's a rackmount server. I see *nothing* in the BIOS that could prevent me from writing to HDs. Yes, I did switch from QDMA mode on the SATA drives to ATA, with no apparent change. The machine has a Dell SAS 6 Host Bus Adapter. I see nothing in the configuration there that would prevent writing to the HD. Of course I could have missed something in the BIOS, or in the HBA setup, but looks like I would have seen it as many times as I have been in there looking for clues. Have you tried to install another linux distributions? Is it imperative for you to stick with GRUB? Have you tried LILO? No, I've not tried another distro (yet). No, not necessary to stick with grub. I did try LILO the first time it happened and it failed to work as well. I don't recall the error it had though. -- The world is coming to an end... SAVE YOUR BUFFERS!! 05:35:01 up 13:29, 2 users, load average: 0.29, 0.32, 0.25 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny + Dell PE 2970
randall wrote: M. Lewis wrote: I'm trying to install Lenny on a Dell Power Edge 2970 with little success. The problem I'm running into is installing grub. My .iso images check with md5sum correctly. With three different DVDs, I get the error: Unable to install grub in (hd0) Executing 'grub-install (hd0)' failed This is a fatal error. maybe a long shot, but his problem reminds me a little when trying to install from USB, the installer defaulted to install to the USB stick, thus not giving an error but evidently GRUB was not in the right place when trying to boot from the hard disks. IF the installer would see your install DVD as (hd0) then the error would make sense. If I boot into the rescue mode and mount /dev/hda1 I can see files in /boot/grub. Including stage1. As I recall, it's 512 bytes, the same as in this machine. -- Virus detected! P)our chicken soup on motherboard? 05:50:01 up 13:44, 2 users, load average: 0.07, 0.10, 0.16 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny + Dell PE 2970
Ansgar Esztermann wrote: On Mar 20, 2009, at 11:04 , M. Lewis wrote: New box, off the 'shelf'. No partitions there unless Dell put them on to begin with. It was purchased without an O/S. Dell servers usually have a utility partition pre-installed. For what it's worth, I have a PE 2950 here. I do not recall any problems during installation, though. A. Yes, I guess it originally had a utility partition, but that was blown away with the first install attempt. -- IBM: Industry Bowel Movement 15:00:01 up 22:54, 2 users, load average: 0.39, 0.29, 0.27 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny + Dell PE 2970
Thorny wrote: On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:58:32 -0500, M. Lewis posted: I'm trying to install Lenny on a Dell Power Edge 2970 with little success. The problem I'm running into is installing grub. My .iso images check with md5sum correctly. With three different DVDs, I get the error: Unable to install grub in (hd0) Executing 'grub-install (hd0)' failed This is a fatal error. [...] Lets have a look at your /boot/grub/device.map I didn't look at that, but now when I try to mount /dev/sda1 it's telling me it is an invalid filesystem. Fdisk shows nothing now. This gets more frustrating as it goes along. -- Software engineer: One who engineers others into writing the code for him/her. 15:05:01 up 22:59, 2 users, load average: 0.15, 0.28, 0.27 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny + Dell PE 2970
Mark Goldshtein wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:40 PM, M. Lewis cajun@ wrote: Thorny wrote: On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:58:32 -0500, M. Lewis posted: I'm trying to install Lenny on a Dell Power Edge 2970 with little success. The problem I'm running into is installing grub. My .iso images check with md5sum correctly. With three different DVDs, I get the error: Unable to install grub in (hd0) Executing 'grub-install (hd0)' failed This is a fatal error. [...] Lets have a look at your /boot/grub/device.map I didn't look at that, but now when I try to mount /dev/sda1 it's telling me it is an invalid filesystem. Fdisk shows nothing now. This gets more frustrating as it goes along. Hey, man! Think positively :) We are thinking about you! It is Friday, have a beer :) Maybe you should look for that partitioning utility on vendor web site? Maybe the HDD should be pre-partitioned with that util before any OS installation? I've had several beers dealing with this thing already. A few more sounds good. I'll try that Mark. Stranger things have happened. Thanks, Mike -- IBM: Incompatible Blue Machines 17:05:01 up 1 day, 59 min, 2 users, load average: 0.05, 0.10, 0.15 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Checking the md5sum of a burned CD
I've burned a CD from a .iso image. Now I want to verify the burning process worked correctly (there were no errors reported). Note, I verified the md5sums of the .iso's before I burned them. So now I'd like to check the burned CD against that md5sum. Thanks, Mike -- Old programmers never die; they just branch to a new address. 04:30:01 up 1:11, 2 users, load average: 1.08, 0.68, 0.49 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Checking the md5sum of a burned CD
thveillon.debian wrote: M. Lewis a écrit : I've burned a CD from a .iso image. Now I want to verify the burning process worked correctly (there were no errors reported). Note, I verified the md5sums of the .iso's before I burned them. So now I'd like to check the burned CD against that md5sum. Thanks, Mike Hi, md5sum /dev/cdrom or md5sum /dev/scd0 works here (Squeeze and Lenny), whatever applies to your system. If you have I/O error check that it's not mounted, and not accessed by some other process (like kio* in KDE). Tom Great. Thanks Tom. I was totally unaware it could be done as simply as that. Mike -- IBM: Install Bigger Memory 05:25:01 up 2:06, 2 users, load average: 1.43, 1.55, 1.15 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Lenny + Dell PE 2970
I'm trying to install Lenny on a Dell Power Edge 2970 with little success. The problem I'm running into is installing grub. My .iso images check with md5sum correctly. With three different DVDs, I get the error: Unable to install grub in (hd0) Executing 'grub-install (hd0)' failed This is a fatal error. There is nothing in the install logs that really jumps out at me as to what could be the problem. I've tried continuing without loading grub and tried to install grub from the rescue mode. Same problem, I get a 'grub error 1'. This machine has three SATA drives. If I open a shell during the install, I can see /boot/grub/stage1. From what I can tell, it appears there is some sort of problem with reading the disks. Any thoughts or ideas as to what might be the issue would be appreciated. Below is a snippet of the relevant portion of the logs. Thanks, Mike Mar 19 20:45:07 grub-installer: info: Installing grub on '(hd0)' Mar 19 20:45:07 grub-installer: info: grub-install supports --no-floppy Mar 19 20:45:07 grub-installer: info: Running chroot /target grub-install --no-floppy --recheck (hd0) Mar 19 20:45:07 grub-installer: You shouldn't call /sbin/grub-install. Please call /usr/sbin/grub-install instead! Mar 19 20:45:07 grub-installer: Mar 19 20:45:07 grub-installer: Searching for GRUB installation directory ... Mar 19 20:45:07 grub-installer: found: /boot/grub Mar 19 20:45:13 grub-installer: The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly. Mar 19 20:45:13 grub-installer: error: Running 'grub-install --no-floppy --recheck (hd0)' failed. Mar 19 20:46:18 main-menu[1816]: WARNING **: Configuring 'grub-installer' failed with error code 1 Mar 19 20:46:18 main-menu[1816]: WARNING **: Menu item 'grub-installer' failed. Mar 19 20:46:21 main-menu[1816]: INFO: Modifying debconf priority limit from 'high' to 'medium' -- IBM: Imperialist by Marketing 16:35:01 up 29 min, 2 users, load average: 0.08, 0.27, 0.24 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Yahoo Messenger replacement?
I'd love to get my wife's machine off of M$ software. The only problem has been Yahoo Messenger. My wife is dependent on YM to talk with her family. My wife's family goes to the internet cafe to chat with her, so they don't have any control over what version of YM is being used. Not only do they chat, they use the webcam. Prior (a couple of years ago) I tried several Linux substitutes for YM, including Yahoo's own YM for Linux (which was the worst). Hopefully things have changed though and there's a good substitute available for Linux now. What is the best recommendation for a replacement for YM on Linux? It must be compatible with YM and it must be able to use the webcam. Thanks for any suggestions, Mike -- ZAP! Process discontinued. Enter any 12-digit prime number to resume. 18:05:01 up 8:51, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.07, 0.07 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Yahoo Messenger replacement?
steve wrote: M. Lewis wrote: I'd love to get my wife's machine off of M$ software. The only problem has been Yahoo Messenger. My wife is dependent on YM to talk with her family. My wife's family goes to the internet cafe to chat with her, so they don't have any control over what version of YM is being used. Not only do they chat, they use the webcam. Prior (a couple of years ago) I tried several Linux substitutes for YM, including Yahoo's own YM for Linux (which was the worst). Hopefully things have changed though and there's a good substitute available for Linux now. What is the best recommendation for a replacement for YM on Linux? It must be compatibl e with YM and it must be able to use the webcam. Thanks for any suggestions, Mike ive been using gyach for years. works great, while others are struggling ie. pidgin, empathy to support video/voice gyach has had it for as long as i can remember. http://gyachi.sourceforge.net/index.shtml there may be someone who has one precompiled deb for debian, wait for another to jump in. ( i use it on ubuntu, might work might not) you may also want to recommend skype. both voice and video there as well. Thanks Steve Daryl. There doesn't seem to be a .deb for Sid amd64. At least not there. I tried installing it the old fashion way, but got errors with that as well. Thanks, Mike -- Use free-form input where possible. 22:20:01 up 3:46, 2 users, load average: 0.16, 0.21, 0.20 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Yahoo Messenger replacement?
steve wrote: M. Lewis wrote: steve wrote: M. Lewis wrote: I'd love to get my wife's machine off of M$ software. The only problem has been Yahoo Messenger. My wife is dependent on YM to talk with her family. My wife's family goes to the internet cafe to chat with her, so they don't have any control over what version of YM is being used. Not only do they chat, they use the webcam. Prior (a couple of years ago) I tried several Linux substitutes for YM, including Yahoo's own YM for Linux (which was the worst). Hopefully things have changed though and there's a good substitute available for Linux now. What is the best recommendation for a replacement for YM on Linux? It must be compatibl e with YM and it must be able to use the webcam. Thanks for any suggestions, Mike ive been using gyach for years. works great, while others are struggling ie. pidgin, empathy to support video/voice gyach has had it for as long as i can remember. http://gyachi.sourceforge.net/index.shtml there may be someone who has one precompiled deb for debian, wait for another to jump in. ( i use it on ubuntu, might work might not) you may also want to recommend skype. both voice and video there as well. Thanks Steve Daryl. There doesn't seem to be a .deb for Sid amd64. At least not there. I tried installing it the old fashion way, but got errors with that as well. Thanks, Mike yeah your going to have problems with 64 bit. Unless your doing some processor intensive calculations or encoding theres no reason to be using 64 bit in my book. (judging by what you said it being your wifes laptop, i doubt thats the case) Ive always gotten nothing but headaches trying to use it. Well, problem is, I have to demonstrate to her that it is going to work properly first. Now if there were a Live CD with that on it, that would be great! -- There is no problem that, when programmed just right, isn't more complicated. 23:00:01 up 4:26, 2 users, load average: 0.07, 0.05, 0.09 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: KDE 4
thveillon.debian wrote: M. Lewis a écrit : Following the instructions at http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/experimental.html Is it a problem that aptitude wants to uninstall kde (as well as LOTS of other s/w)? TIA, Mike [snip] Hi, I installed kde4 from experimental on a testing system not long ago, and in my experience full kde3 and full kde4 can't live peacefully together on the same system... So what's not upgradeable from kde3 is removed. kde being a vitual package, if only one of the real packages it depends on is removed the virtual package has to be removed altogether. Nothing to be alarmed of if what you want is kde4. Tom I installed KDE4.2 on a testing system as well (VirtualBox is great!). I first installed Lenny, then updated, upgraded to Sid, upgraded to experimental, and then followed the procedure mentioned above. The first two times I did this, I got (kdmgreet) crashed and caused the signal 11(SIGSEGV). This prevented X from starting. If I tried to start kdm via /etc/init.d/kdm start, it complained about something like '--old-kde doesn't start with /share/apps' or something similar to that. I should have written it down verbatim. I never was able to resolve that issue. I could start X by 'startx' at the console, however it brought up a Gnome session rather than KDE. The third time I tried this on VirtualBox, it worked fine. No issues at all. If someone might know what caused the error the first two times, I would certainly be interesting in learning the solution. Thanks, Mike -- IBM: Incredibly Big Manufacturer 22:20:01 up 1 day, 23:31, 2 users, load average: 0.29, 0.18, 0.25 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: KDE 4
thveillon.debian wrote: M. Lewis a écrit : Following the instructions at http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/experimental.html Is it a problem that aptitude wants to uninstall kde (as well as LOTS of other s/w)? TIA, Mike moe:~# aptitude -t experimental install kde4-minimal Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done [snip] Remove the following packages: kde kdeaddons kdenetwork kicker kicker-applets knewsticker kpersonalizer lilo-config Hi, I installed kde4 from experimental on a testing system not long ago, and in my experience full kde3 and full kde4 can't live peacefully together on the same system... So what's not upgradeable from kde3 is removed. kde being a vitual package, if only one of the real packages it depends on is removed the virtual package has to be removed altogether. Nothing to be alarmed of if what you want is kde4. Tom Perfect! Thank you Tom. Exactly the type of information I was looking for. Thanks, Mike -- IBM: Incredible Bowel Movement 20:25:01 up 21:36, 2 users, load average: 0.73, 0.75, 0.80 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
KDE 4
Following the instructions at http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/experimental.html Is it a problem that aptitude wants to uninstall kde (as well as LOTS of other s/w)? TIA, Mike moe:~# aptitude -t experimental install kde4-minimal Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Reading extended state information Initializing package states... Done Reading task descriptions... Done The following packages are BROKEN: kdeartwork-theme-window kdebase-runtime-data kicker kpersonalizer kwrite libkonq5 lilo-config The following NEW packages will be installed: consolekit{a} dolphin{a} google-gadgets-common{a} google-gadgets-gst{a} google-gadgets-qt{a} google-gadgets-xul{a} kde-window-manager{a} kde4-minimal kdebase-workspace{a} kdebase-workspace-bin{a} kdebase-workspace-data{a} kdebase-workspace-libs4+5{a} kdepimlibs-data{a} kdepimlibs5{a} libakonadiprivate1{a} libboost-program-options1.34.1{a} libcapseo0{a} libcaptury0{a} libck-connector0{a} libeet1{a} libggadget-1.0-0{a} libggadget-qt-1.0-0{a} libical0{a} libkde4-ruby1.8{a} libkdecorations4{a} libkonqsidebarplugin4{a} libkwineffects1{a} libpam-ck-connector{a} libplasma-ruby{a} libplasma-ruby1.8{a} libplasma3{a} libqedje0{a} libqimageblitz4{a} libqt4-assistant{a} libqt4-help{a} libqt4-ruby1.8{a} libqt4-test{a} libqt4-xmlpatterns{a} libqtruby4shared2{a} libqzion0{a} libsmokekde4-2{a} libsmokeplasma2{a} libsmokeqt4-2{a} libstrigiqtdbusclient0{a} oxygencursors{a} plasma-applet-folderview{a} plasma-applets-workspace{a} plasma-dataengines-workspace{a} plasma-scriptengine-googlegadgets{a} plasma-scriptengine-javascript{a} plasma-scriptengine-python{a} plasma-scriptengine-qedje{a} plasma-scriptengine-ruby{a} plasma-scriptengine-webkit{a} plasma-scriptengines{a} python-kde4{a} python-qt4{a} python-qt4-common{a} python-sip4{a} ruby1.8{a} systemsettings{a} The following packages will be REMOVED: htdig{u} kcontrol{a} kdeprint{u} kdesktop{a} khelpcenter{u} kmenuedit{a} kpager{u} ksmserver{a} ksplash{u} ktip{a} kwin{a} lockfile-progs{u} poster{u} psutils{u} The following packages will be upgraded: kappfinder kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-data kdepasswd kdm kfind klipper konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konsole ksysguard ksysguardd 13 packages upgraded, 63 newly installed, 14 to remove and 368 not upgraded. Need to get 92.3MB of archives. After unpacking 155MB will be used. The following packages have unmet dependencies: kdeartwork-theme-window: Depends: kwin (= 4:3.5.9) but it is not installable kpersonalizer: Depends: kdebase-data ( 4:3.5.9.dfsg.2) but 4:4.2.0-1 is to be installed. kicker: Depends: kdebase-data ( 4:3.5.9.dfsg.2) but 4:4.2.0-1 is to be installed. kwrite: Conflicts: kate ( 4:4.0.0-1) but 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6 is installed and it is kept back. lilo-config: Depends: kcontrol but it is not installable libkonq5: Depends: libkonq5-templates but it is not installable or kdesktop but it is not installable kdebase-runtime-data: Depends: kdebase-runtime-data-common (= 4:4.2.0-1) but it is not installable or kdebase-data ( 4:4.0.0-1) but 4:4.2.0-1 is to be installed. The following actions will resolve these dependencies: Remove the following packages: kde kdeaddons kdenetwork kicker kicker-applets knewsticker kpersonalizer lilo-config Install the following packages: kdebase-runtime-data-common [4:4.2.0-1 (experimental)] khelpcenter4 [4:4.2.0-1 (experimental)] libkonq5-templates [4:4.2.0-1 (experimental)] Keep the following packages at their current version: htdig [1:3.2.0b6-8 (unstable, now)] lockfile-progs [0.1.11-0.1 (unstable, now)] Upgrade the following packages: kate [4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6 (unstable, now) - 4:4.2.0-1 (experimental)] kdeartwork-theme-window [4:3.5.9-3 (unstable, now) - 4:4.2.0-1 (experimental)] kteatime [4:3.5.9-2 (unstable, now) - 4:4.2.0-1 (experimental)] Leave the following dependencies unresolved: amor recommends kwin eyesapplet recommends kicker fifteenapplet recommends kicker k3b recommends kcontrol kdeadmin recommends lilo-config (= 4:3.5.9-2) kdeartwork-theme-icon recommends kdesktop kdeartwork-theme-icon recommends kicker kmoon recommends kicker knewsticker-scripts recommends knewsticker kscreensaver recommends kwin kscreensaver-xsavers recommends kwin kweather recommends kicker Score is -4173 Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] q Abandoning all efforts to resolve these dependencies. Abort. -- IBM: Indigestion Bothers Me 23:30:01 up 41 min, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.06, 0.12 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
DVD install question
Prior to the release of Lenny, I downloaded one of the Lenny release candidate DVD's and installed via a network install from DVD #1. Is this still possible with the released version of Lenny? Or do I need all 5 of the DVD's? Thanks, Mike -- IBM: Irresponsibility Behaved Multinational 23:00:01 up 5 days, 20:35, 1 user, load average: 0.46, 0.44, 1.07 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Aptitude help
How can I resolve this dependency? Aptitude has given up resolving the dependencies. It appears that linux-kbuild-2-6-28 is not available yet: moe:/tmp/kde-cajun# apt-cache search linux-kbuild linux-kbuild-2.6.26 - Kbuild infrastructure for Linux 2.6.26 So how am I to resolve the dependencies by hand as Aptitude suggests as a solution? Thanks, Mike moe:/tmp/kde-cajun# aptitude install linux-headers-2.6.28-1-all-amd64 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Reading extended state information Initializing package states... Done Reading task descriptions... Done The following packages are BROKEN: linux-headers-2.6.28-1-amd64 The following NEW packages will be installed: linux-headers-2.6.28-1-all-amd64 0 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 791kB of archives. After unpacking 10.8MB will be used. The following packages have unmet dependencies: linux-headers-2.6.28-1-amd64: Depends: linux-kbuild-2.6.28 which is a virtual package. Unable to resolve dependencies! Giving up... The following packages are BROKEN: linux-headers-2.6.28-1-amd64 The following NEW packages will be installed: linux-headers-2.6.28-1-all-amd64 0 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 791kB of archives. After unpacking 10.8MB will be used. aptitude failed to find a solution to these dependencies. You can solve them yourself by hand or type 'n' to quit. The following packages have unmet dependencies: linux-headers-2.6.28-1-amd64: Depends: linux-kbuild-2.6.28 which is a virtual package. Resolve these dependencies by hand? [N/+/-/_/:/?] n Abort. moe:/tmp/kde-cajun# -- IBM: Incredibly Boring Manuals 18:30:01 up 4:04, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.06, 0.08 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Aptitude help
Daniel Burrows wrote: I don't know what the timeline is on that; AFAIK there aren't any 2.6.28 packages anywhere in the archive. In fact, moe:/tmp/kde-cajun# aptitude install linux-headers-2.6.28-1-all-amd64 linux-headers-2.6.28-1-all-amd64 doesn't seem to exist at all in Debian. Maybe you got it from some other site and they can provide you with a matching kbuild? Daniel It's from experimental. -- IBM: Itty Bitty Machines 20:05:01 up 5:39, 2 users, load average: 0.04, 0.06, 0.07 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: /dev/sndstat
Nigel Henry wrote: On Wednesday 14 January 2009 04:49, M. Lewis wrote: Nigel Henry wrote: I wonder if you have some sort of codec conflict going on here. Try adding the following line to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, and rebooting. options snd-hda-intel probe_mask=1 That will just select the first codec, which should be the one for your soundcard, if there are more than one codec in the equation. If that doesn't work, and the next time you get the sounds up and running, post back the output of the following stuff. cat /proc/asound/cards cat /proc/asound/version grep ^Codec /proc/asound/card?/codec* If the probe_mask option does work, post back the output of the above stuff as well, as it may be helpfull in getting a solution to the problem. All the best. Nigel. I have some sounds coming from the speakers now Nigel. Here is the information you asked for. The first part is run from rc.local, the second part was run manually after I got the sound. Hope this tells you something. Note: the only 'significant' change I made that I know of is: # Inserted per Nigel Henry #options snd-hda-intel index=0 probe_mask=1 enable=1 options snd-hda-intel enable=1 index=0 position_fix=1 The first commented out version did *not* work. I later changed the order and it started working after rmmod snd-hda-intel, modprobe -v snd-hda-intel. - # date Tue Jan 13 19:32:27 CST 2009 - # cat /proc/asound/cards --- no soundcards --- - # cat /proc/asound/version Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.16. - # grep ^Codec /proc/asound/card?/codec* - # date Tue Jan 13 21:17:46 CST 2009 - # cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [SB ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB HDA ATI SB at 0xfe024000 irq 16 - # cat /proc/asound/version Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.16. - # grep ^Codec /proc/asound/card?/codec* Codec: Realtek ALC885 - moe:~# ll /dev/snd total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 200 2009-01-13 21:15 . drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 4060 2009-01-13 21:15 .. crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 0 2009-01-13 21:15 controlC0 crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 24 2009-01-13 21:15 pcmC0D0c crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 16 2009-01-13 21:33 pcmC0D0p crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 25 2009-01-13 21:15 pcmC0D1c crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 17 2009-01-13 21:15 pcmC0D1p crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 26 2009-01-13 21:15 pcmC0D2c crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 1 2009-01-13 21:15 seq crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 33 2009-01-13 21:15 timer After a reboot, unfortunately it is *NOT* working. :-( Thanks, Mike Hi Mike. At least we know what the codec is now. As both your threads have been running for a while, perhaps we could go back, and get some basic details. Which machine do you have? Make/model. PC, or laptop. Gigabyte GA-MA69G-S3H. It is a desktop. Sound was working on your i686 install, and I presume that was Lenny, but when you installed x86_64/AMD64 version of Lenny, sound no longer worked. Was that a totally fresh install of the 64 bit version of Lenny? Yes, the 64 bit install was on bare metal as was the 32 bit install. Personally I'd go back to the i686 version of Lenny, where the sound was working. I've seen conflicting reports of the benefits of using a 64 bit OS. Only my opinion, and of course it's your choice. Believe me, the thought has crossed my mind. Although I would like to assist the developers to resolve this issue. The developer who is working on my bug report asked me to hang in there until the weekend when he has access to hardware to test with. Other than this issue, the 64 bit is working fine. Anyway. Back to the ALC885 codec. There are a bunch of model options for this codec with the 1.0.16 alsa driver, as below. I see the same model options for the 1.0.18a alsa driver, but bear in mind that the alsa developers are continually applying patches to the alsa driver, so maybe upgrading to the latest alsa driver is an option. The link for the latest is also below. ALC882/885 3stack-dig 3-jack with SPDIF I/O 6stack-dig 6-jack digital with SPDIF I/O arima Arima W820Di1 targa Targa T8, MSI-1049 T8 asus-a7j ASUS A7J asus-a7m ASUS A7M macpro MacPro support mbp3 Macbook Pro rev3 imac24 iMac 24'' with jack detection w2jc ASUS W2JC auto auto-config reading BIOS (default) Latest alsa driver obtainable from link below, and if you want the latest nightly snapshot of the driver, that's the 2nd link. http://alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/tiwai/snapshot/ If you're not sure
Re: AMD64 No sound - [followup]
M. Lewis wrote: M. Lewis wrote: M. Lewis wrote: Lenny KDE I decided to change from 686 to AMD64 architecture after all the buzz the past few days about the virtues of using the AMD64 architecture. After installing Lenny, I have no sound at all. (with 686, I had sound from the install, no problem). moe:~# lspci | grep -i audio 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) moe:~# cat /proc/asound/cards --- no soundcards --- moe:~# cat /dev/sndstat Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.16 emulation code) Kernel: Linux moe 2.6.26-1-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Dec 15 17:25:36 UTC 2008 x86_64 Config options: 0 Installed drivers: Type 10: ALSA emulation Card config: --- no soundcards --- Audio devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Timers: 7: system timer Mixers: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG moe:~# ls -l /dev/{snd,dsp} ls: cannot access /dev/dsp: No such file or directory /dev/snd: total 0 crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 1 2009-01-10 07:28 seq crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 33 2009-01-10 07:28 timer I've done a good bit of searching in the archives, but as of yet I've not found a solution. Thanks in advance, Mike Doing more digging, I find I also have this [1] problem (problem #1). I'm not sure if the two issues are related at all. I have tried booting with iommu=soft, still no sound. [1] http://marc.info/?l=debian-userm=122797497510015w=2 I may be getting closer to the solution. I did get sound out of the machine a few minutes ago. I found this entry in /var/log/messages when the sound was working: Jan 11 02:04:28 moe kernel: [ 6431.540366] ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:14.2[A] - GSI 16 (level, low) - IRQ 16 Jan 11 02:06:39 moe kernel: [ 6578.403702] hda-intel: Invalid position buffer, using LPIB read method instead. After a reboot and trying to use the sound, I see these messages in /var/log/messages: Jan 11 02:16:20 moe kernel: [ 354.828388] ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:14.2[A] - GSI 16 (level, low) - IRQ 16 Jan 11 02:16:20 moe kernel: [ 354.858407] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device :00:14.2 disabled Jan 11 02:16:29 moe kernel: [ 364.409661] ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:14.2[A] - GSI 16 (level, low) - IRQ 16 Jan 11 02:16:29 moe kernel: [ 364.437812] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device :00:14.2 disabled Jan 11 02:17:12 moe kernel: [ 410.171457] ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:14.2[A] - GSI 16 (level, low) - IRQ 16 Jan 11 02:17:12 moe kernel: [ 410.203559] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device :00:14.2 disabled So it would seem that my sound is not getting (for some strange reason) an interrupt because it is disabled. Note, nothing was changed in the BIOS during this reboot. Thanks for any clues, Mike As a followup, I have apparently resolved the memory issue by adding iommu=soft as a kernel boot parameter. I have tried pci=noacpi as a kernel boot parameter. Neither of these boot parameters, or any combination of them resolved the original sound issue. I have filed a bug report: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=511658 Thanks, Mike -- shred -uzf /bin/laden 18:40:01 up 7:11, 1 user, load average: 0.21, 0.15, 0.05 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: /dev/sndstat
Nigel Henry wrote: On Monday 12 January 2009 16:22, M. Lewis wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/12/09 03:44, M. Lewis wrote: M. Lewis wrote: M. Lewis wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/11/09 23:33, M. Lewis wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/11/09 22:34, M. Lewis wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/11/09 21:55, M. Lewis wrote: [snip] moe:~# lspci -v -s14.2 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device a002 Flags: slow devsel, IRQ 16 Memory at fe024000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel Do you happen to know what that fast devsel / slow devsel business is about? Nope. What happens when you: # depmod # modprobe -v snd_hda_intel snd_seq Well, actually that works with speaker-test. *BUT*, I'm not holding my breath. I've had it this far before and couldn't reproduce it again. Let me reboot and try again before I pronounce it 'fixed'. Well, no, but more information: install /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-hda-intel snd_seq /lib/alsa/modprobe-post-install snd-hda-intel insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko snd_seq FATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) FATAL: Error running install command for snd_hda_intel And from dmesg: [ 362.587129] snd_hda_intel: Unknown parameter `snd_seq' I will try it without the snd_seq. Still no luck without the snd_seq or even putting snd_seq in a separate modprobe: modprobe -v snd_seq modprobe -v snd-hda-intel So the depmod/modprobe worked, but then you rebooted and now it doesn't work That is correct. That is three times, through some series of events, that I have managed to get sound out of it. Rebooted and tried to reproduce the sequence and was not able to reproduce it. -- I wonder if you have some sort of codec conflict going on here. Try adding the following line to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, and rebooting. options snd-hda-intel probe_mask=1 That will just select the first codec, which should be the one for your soundcard, if there are more than one codec in the equation. If that doesn't work, and the next time you get the sounds up and running, post back the output of the following stuff. cat /proc/asound/cards cat /proc/asound/version grep ^Codec /proc/asound/card?/codec* If the probe_mask option does work, post back the output of the above stuff as well, as it may be helpfull in getting a solution to the problem. All the best. Nigel. I have some sounds coming from the speakers now Nigel. Here is the information you asked for. The first part is run from rc.local, the second part was run manually after I got the sound. Hope this tells you something. Note: the only 'significant' change I made that I know of is: # Inserted per Nigel Henry #options snd-hda-intel index=0 probe_mask=1 enable=1 options snd-hda-intel enable=1 index=0 position_fix=1 The first commented out version did *not* work. I later changed the order and it started working after rmmod snd-hda-intel, modprobe -v snd-hda-intel. - # date Tue Jan 13 19:32:27 CST 2009 - # cat /proc/asound/cards --- no soundcards --- - # cat /proc/asound/version Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.16. - # grep ^Codec /proc/asound/card?/codec* - # date Tue Jan 13 21:17:46 CST 2009 - # cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [SB ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB HDA ATI SB at 0xfe024000 irq 16 - # cat /proc/asound/version Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.16. - # grep ^Codec /proc/asound/card?/codec* Codec: Realtek ALC885 - moe:~# ll /dev/snd total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 200 2009-01-13 21:15 . drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 4060 2009-01-13 21:15 .. crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 0 2009-01-13 21:15 controlC0 crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 24 2009-01-13 21:15 pcmC0D0c crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 16 2009-01-13 21:33 pcmC0D0p crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 25 2009-01-13 21:15 pcmC0D1c crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 17 2009-01-13 21:15 pcmC0D1p crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 26 2009-01-13 21:15 pcmC0D2c crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 1 2009-01-13 21:15 seq crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 33 2009-01-13 21:15 timer After a reboot, unfortunately it is *NOT* working. :-( Thanks, Mike -- God is real, unless declared integer. 21:15:01 up 1:42, 1 user, load average: 0.50, 0.23, 0.13 Linux Registered User #241685
Re: /dev/sndstat
Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/11/09 23:33, M. Lewis wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/11/09 22:34, M. Lewis wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/11/09 21:55, M. Lewis wrote: [snip] moe:~# lspci -v -s14.2 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device a002 Flags: slow devsel, IRQ 16 Memory at fe024000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel Do you happen to know what that fast devsel / slow devsel business is about? Nope. What happens when you: # depmod # modprobe -v snd_hda_intel snd_seq Well, actually that works with speaker-test. *BUT*, I'm not holding my breath. I've had it this far before and couldn't reproduce it again. Let me reboot and try again before I pronounce it 'fixed'. -- Long computations that yield zero are probably all for naught. 03:15:01 up 2:54, 1 user, load average: 0.74, 0.45, 0.51 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: /dev/sndstat
M. Lewis wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/11/09 23:33, M. Lewis wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/11/09 22:34, M. Lewis wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/11/09 21:55, M. Lewis wrote: [snip] moe:~# lspci -v -s14.2 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device a002 Flags: slow devsel, IRQ 16 Memory at fe024000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel Do you happen to know what that fast devsel / slow devsel business is about? Nope. What happens when you: # depmod # modprobe -v snd_hda_intel snd_seq Well, actually that works with speaker-test. *BUT*, I'm not holding my breath. I've had it this far before and couldn't reproduce it again. Let me reboot and try again before I pronounce it 'fixed'. Well, no, but more information: install /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-hda-intel snd_seq /lib/alsa/modprobe-post-install snd-hda-intel insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko snd_seq FATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) FATAL: Error running install command for snd_hda_intel And from dmesg: [ 362.587129] snd_hda_intel: Unknown parameter `snd_seq' I will try it without the snd_seq. Thanks, Mike -- IBM: I'm Beyond Mistakes 03:30:02 up 5 min, 1 user, load average: 0.35, 0.31, 0.15 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: /dev/sndstat
M. Lewis wrote: M. Lewis wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/11/09 23:33, M. Lewis wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/11/09 22:34, M. Lewis wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/11/09 21:55, M. Lewis wrote: [snip] moe:~# lspci -v -s14.2 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device a002 Flags: slow devsel, IRQ 16 Memory at fe024000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel Do you happen to know what that fast devsel / slow devsel business is about? Nope. What happens when you: # depmod # modprobe -v snd_hda_intel snd_seq Well, actually that works with speaker-test. *BUT*, I'm not holding my breath. I've had it this far before and couldn't reproduce it again. Let me reboot and try again before I pronounce it 'fixed'. Well, no, but more information: install /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-hda-intel snd_seq /lib/alsa/modprobe-post-install snd-hda-intel insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko snd_seq FATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) FATAL: Error running install command for snd_hda_intel And from dmesg: [ 362.587129] snd_hda_intel: Unknown parameter `snd_seq' I will try it without the snd_seq. Still no luck without the snd_seq or even putting snd_seq in a separate modprobe: modprobe -v snd_seq modprobe -v snd-hda-intel -- This login session: $13.76, but for you: $11.88. 03:40:01 up 15 min, 1 user, load average: 0.05, 0.12, 0.11 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: /dev/sndstat
Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/12/09 03:44, M. Lewis wrote: M. Lewis wrote: M. Lewis wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/11/09 23:33, M. Lewis wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/11/09 22:34, M. Lewis wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/11/09 21:55, M. Lewis wrote: [snip] moe:~# lspci -v -s14.2 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device a002 Flags: slow devsel, IRQ 16 Memory at fe024000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel Do you happen to know what that fast devsel / slow devsel business is about? Nope. What happens when you: # depmod # modprobe -v snd_hda_intel snd_seq Well, actually that works with speaker-test. *BUT*, I'm not holding my breath. I've had it this far before and couldn't reproduce it again. Let me reboot and try again before I pronounce it 'fixed'. Well, no, but more information: install /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-hda-intel snd_seq /lib/alsa/modprobe-post-install snd-hda-intel insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko snd_seq FATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) FATAL: Error running install command for snd_hda_intel And from dmesg: [ 362.587129] snd_hda_intel: Unknown parameter `snd_seq' I will try it without the snd_seq. Still no luck without the snd_seq or even putting snd_seq in a separate modprobe: modprobe -v snd_seq modprobe -v snd-hda-intel So the depmod/modprobe worked, but then you rebooted and now it doesn't work That is correct. That is three times, through some series of events, that I have managed to get sound out of it. Rebooted and tried to reproduce the sequence and was not able to reproduce it. -- IBM: Insanely Better Marketing 09:20:01 up 5:10, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: AMD64 No sound
Bob wrote: M. Lewis wrote: M. Lewis wrote: M. Lewis wrote: Lenny KDE I decided to change from 686 to AMD64 architecture after all the buzz the past few days about the virtues of using the AMD64 architecture. After installing Lenny, I have no sound at all. (with 686, I had sound from the install, no problem). moe:~# lspci | grep -i audio 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) moe:~# cat /proc/asound/cards --- no soundcards --- moe:~# cat /dev/sndstat Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.16 emulation code) Kernel: Linux moe 2.6.26-1-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Dec 15 17:25:36 UTC 2008 x86_64 Config options: 0 Installed drivers: Type 10: ALSA emulation Card config: --- no soundcards --- Audio devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Timers: 7: system timer Mixers: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG moe:~# ls -l /dev/{snd,dsp} ls: cannot access /dev/dsp: No such file or directory /dev/snd: total 0 crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 1 2009-01-10 07:28 seq crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 33 2009-01-10 07:28 timer I've done a good bit of searching in the archives, but as of yet I've not found a solution. Thanks in advance, Mike Doing more digging, I find I also have this [1] problem (problem #1). I'm not sure if the two issues are related at all. I have tried booting with iommu=soft, still no sound. [1] http://marc.info/?l=debian-userm=122797497510015w=2 I may be getting closer to the solution. I did get sound out of the machine a few minutes ago. I found this entry in /var/log/messages when the sound was working: Jan 11 02:04:28 moe kernel: [ 6431.540366] ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:14.2[A] - GSI 16 (level, low) - IRQ 16 Jan 11 02:06:39 moe kernel: [ 6578.403702] hda-intel: Invalid position buffer, using LPIB read method instead. After a reboot and trying to use the sound, I see these messages in /var/log/messages: Jan 11 02:16:20 moe kernel: [ 354.828388] ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:14.2[A] - GSI 16 (level, low) - IRQ 16 Jan 11 02:16:20 moe kernel: [ 354.858407] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device :00:14.2 disabled Jan 11 02:16:29 moe kernel: [ 364.409661] ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:14.2[A] - GSI 16 (level, low) - IRQ 16 Jan 11 02:16:29 moe kernel: [ 364.437812] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device :00:14.2 disabled Jan 11 02:17:12 moe kernel: [ 410.171457] ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:14.2[A] - GSI 16 (level, low) - IRQ 16 Jan 11 02:17:12 moe kernel: [ 410.203559] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device :00:14.2 disabled So it would seem that my sound is not getting (for some strange reason) an interrupt because it is disabled. Note, nothing was changed in the BIOS during this reboot. Thanks for any clues, Mike I had a recent update knacker my sound but in a different way. You want to read the bit on snd-hda-intel in /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/ALSA-Configuration.txt try to identify your card and put a line a bit like this in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base options snd-hda-intel model=6stack-dig position_fix=1 I don't know how much tweaking the Debian team do to ALSA but I've found the wiki a good place for help, particularly in getting digital output going http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Main_Page Good luck, keep us posted. Thanks Bob. Yes, I'm aware of the ALSA-Configuration.txt and have tried several possibilities. I've also read quite a bit on the Alsa site. Something I'm missing somewhere though. Sound is still eluding me. Thanks, Mike -- UNIX is many things to many people, but it has never been everything to anybody. 09:25:01 up 5:15, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.06, 0.02 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: /dev/sndstat
Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/12/09 03:44, M. Lewis wrote: M. Lewis wrote: M. Lewis wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/11/09 23:33, M. Lewis wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/11/09 22:34, M. Lewis wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/11/09 21:55, M. Lewis wrote: [snip] moe:~# lspci -v -s14.2 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device a002 Flags: slow devsel, IRQ 16 Memory at fe024000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel Do you happen to know what that fast devsel / slow devsel business is about? Nope. What happens when you: # depmod # modprobe -v snd_hda_intel snd_seq Well, actually that works with speaker-test. *BUT*, I'm not holding my breath. I've had it this far before and couldn't reproduce it again. Let me reboot and try again before I pronounce it 'fixed'. Well, no, but more information: install /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-hda-intel snd_seq /lib/alsa/modprobe-post-install snd-hda-intel insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko snd_seq FATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) FATAL: Error running install command for snd_hda_intel And from dmesg: [ 362.587129] snd_hda_intel: Unknown parameter `snd_seq' I will try it without the snd_seq. Still no luck without the snd_seq or even putting snd_seq in a separate modprobe: modprobe -v snd_seq modprobe -v snd-hda-intel So the depmod/modprobe worked, but then you rebooted and now it doesn't work Ron, what is your version of Alsa please? I'm thinking of *upgrading* from testing to Sid to see if that might resolve the issue. We already know you have a later kernel. Maybe just that would resolve the problem? -- Everybody needs a little love sometime; stop hacking and fall in love! 18:05:01 up 7:14, 1 user, load average: 0.12, 0.10, 0.03 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: /dev/sndstat
Nigel Henry wrote: On Monday 12 January 2009 16:22, M. Lewis wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] moe:~# lspci -v -s14.2 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device a002 Flags: slow devsel, IRQ 16 Memory at fe024000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel Do you happen to know what that fast devsel / slow devsel business is about? Nope. What happens when you: # depmod # modprobe -v snd_hda_intel snd_seq Well, actually that works with speaker-test. *BUT*, I'm not holding my breath. I've had it this far before and couldn't reproduce it again. Let me reboot and try again before I pronounce it 'fixed'. Well, no, but more information: install /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-hda-intel snd_seq /lib/alsa/modprobe-post-install snd-hda-intel insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko snd_seq FATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) FATAL: Error running install command for snd_hda_intel And from dmesg: [ 362.587129] snd_hda_intel: Unknown parameter `snd_seq' I will try it without the snd_seq. Still no luck without the snd_seq or even putting snd_seq in a separate modprobe: modprobe -v snd_seq modprobe -v snd-hda-intel So the depmod/modprobe worked, but then you rebooted and now it doesn't work That is correct. That is three times, through some series of events, that I have managed to get sound out of it. Rebooted and tried to reproduce the sequence and was not able to reproduce it. -- I wonder if you have some sort of codec conflict going on here. Try adding the following line to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, and rebooting. options snd-hda-intel probe_mask=1 Done. That will just select the first codec, which should be the one for your soundcard, if there are more than one codec in the equation. If that doesn't work, and the next time you get the sounds up and running, post back the output of the following stuff. cat /proc/asound/cards cat /proc/asound/version grep ^Codec /proc/asound/card?/codec* If the probe_mask option does work, post back the output of the above stuff as well, as it may be helpfull in getting a solution to the problem. All the best. Nigel. Will do Nigel. I have setup a script in rc.local as well as a shell script to run if/when I ever get it making sounds again: - # date Mon Jan 12 20:41:44 CST 2009 - # cat /proc/asound/cards --- no soundcards --- - # cat /proc/asound/version Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.16. - # grep ^Codec /proc/asound/card?/codec* Thanks, Mike -- To err is human; to really foul things up requires a computer. 20:45:02 up 3 min, 0 users, load average: 0.04, 0.14, 0.07 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: AMD64 No sound
Javier Barroso wrote: Hello, On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Bob s...@homeurl.co.uk wrote: M. Lewis wrote: I decided to change from 686 to AMD64 architecture after all the buzz the past few days about the virtues of using the AMD64 architecture. After installing Lenny, I have no sound at all. (with 686, I had sound from the install, no problem). moe:~# lspci | grep -i audio 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) You want to read the bit on snd-hda-intel in /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/ALSA-Configuration.txt try to identify your card and put a line a bit like this in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base options snd-hda-intel model=6stack-dig position_fix=1 From [1] your could probe another line in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base options snd-hda-intel model=acer position_fix=1 [1] http://www.esdebian.org/foro/21968/problemas-sonido-debian-lenny-64bits-ati-technologies-inc-sbx00-solucionado In the last post they say thanks, but I'm not sure if the sound worked again Regards, Unfortunately Javier, that didn't resolve the issue. Still no sound. Thanks, Mike -- State-of-the-practice: What we can do with the money you have. 00:25:02 up 1 min, 1 user, load average: 1.11, 0.44, 0.16 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: /dev/sndstat
Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/12/09 18:08, M. Lewis wrote: [snip] Ron, what is your version of Alsa please? I'm thinking of *upgrading* from testing to Sid to see if that might resolve the issue. We already know you have a later kernel. Maybe just that would resolve the problem? alsa-base 1.0.17.dfsg-4 alsa-utils 1.0.16-2 alsa-oss 1.0.17-1 alsa-base1.0.17.dfsg-4 alsa-utils 1.0.16-2 Hmmm, I don't have alsa-oss at all. Do I need it? -- Some programming languages manage to absorb change but withstand progress. 01:10:01 up 39 min, 1 user, load average: 0.16, 0.14, 0.07 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: AMD64 No sound
M. Lewis wrote: M. Lewis wrote: Lenny KDE I decided to change from 686 to AMD64 architecture after all the buzz the past few days about the virtues of using the AMD64 architecture. After installing Lenny, I have no sound at all. (with 686, I had sound from the install, no problem). moe:~# lspci | grep -i audio 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) moe:~# cat /proc/asound/cards --- no soundcards --- moe:~# cat /dev/sndstat Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.16 emulation code) Kernel: Linux moe 2.6.26-1-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Dec 15 17:25:36 UTC 2008 x86_64 Config options: 0 Installed drivers: Type 10: ALSA emulation Card config: --- no soundcards --- Audio devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Timers: 7: system timer Mixers: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG moe:~# ls -l /dev/{snd,dsp} ls: cannot access /dev/dsp: No such file or directory /dev/snd: total 0 crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 1 2009-01-10 07:28 seq crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 33 2009-01-10 07:28 timer I've done a good bit of searching in the archives, but as of yet I've not found a solution. Thanks in advance, Mike Doing more digging, I find I also have this [1] problem (problem #1). I'm not sure if the two issues are related at all. I have tried booting with iommu=soft, still no sound. [1] http://marc.info/?l=debian-userm=122797497510015w=2 I may be getting closer to the solution. I did get sound out of the machine a few minutes ago. I found this entry in /var/log/messages when the sound was working: Jan 11 02:04:28 moe kernel: [ 6431.540366] ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:14.2[A] - GSI 16 (level, low) - IRQ 16 Jan 11 02:06:39 moe kernel: [ 6578.403702] hda-intel: Invalid position buffer, using LPIB read method instead. After a reboot and trying to use the sound, I see these messages in /var/log/messages: Jan 11 02:16:20 moe kernel: [ 354.828388] ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:14.2[A] - GSI 16 (level, low) - IRQ 16 Jan 11 02:16:20 moe kernel: [ 354.858407] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device :00:14.2 disabled Jan 11 02:16:29 moe kernel: [ 364.409661] ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:14.2[A] - GSI 16 (level, low) - IRQ 16 Jan 11 02:16:29 moe kernel: [ 364.437812] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device :00:14.2 disabled Jan 11 02:17:12 moe kernel: [ 410.171457] ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:14.2[A] - GSI 16 (level, low) - IRQ 16 Jan 11 02:17:12 moe kernel: [ 410.203559] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device :00:14.2 disabled So it would seem that my sound is not getting (for some strange reason) an interrupt because it is disabled. Note, nothing was changed in the BIOS during this reboot. Thanks for any clues, Mike -- Don't diddle code to make it faster; find a better algorithm. 02:25:01 up 14 min, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.04, 0.06 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
/dev/sndstat
I'm still working on troubleshooting my sound issues. Can someone tell me *what* config this is referring to? moe:~# cat /dev/sndstat Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.16 emulation code) Kernel: Linux moe 2.6.26-1-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Dec 15 17:25:36 UTC 2008 x86_64 Config options: 0 Installed drivers: Type 10: ALSA emulation Card config: --- no soundcards --- Audio devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Timers: 7: system timer Mixers: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Thanks, Mike -- IBM: Increasingly Bad Manufacturing 21:50:01 up 1:04, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.06, 0.01 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: /dev/sndstat
Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/11/09 21:55, M. Lewis wrote: [snip] No, but I can show you what mine look like. It's a Sid box running a hand-rolled kernel based on linux-source-2.6.28. (The machine is about 3 months old, so also worked with 2.6.24.) $ lspci | grep Audio 00:06.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio (rev a2) $ lsmod | grep snd snd_hda_intel 435324 3 snd_pcm77896 1 snd_hda_intel snd_seq51376 1 snd_timer 21776 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq snd_seq_device 7828 1 snd_seq snd60856 12 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device soundcore 7952 1 snd snd_page_alloc 9104 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm # cat /dev/sndstat Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.17 emulation code) Kernel: Linux haggis 2.6.27smp64 #3 SMP Tue Dec 23 02:25:46 CST 2008 x86_64 Config options: 0 Installed drivers: Type 10: ALSA emulation Card config: HDA NVidia at 0xfe024000 irq 21 Audio devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Timers: 7: system timer Mixers: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Thanks Ron, that helps some. At least I know what a working one looks like. -- Avoid GOTOs completely if you can keep the program readable. 22:30:01 up 1:44, 1 user, load average: 0.04, 0.08, 0.08 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: /dev/sndstat
Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/11/09 22:34, M. Lewis wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/11/09 21:55, M. Lewis wrote: [snip] No, but I can show you what mine look like. It's a Sid box running a hand-rolled kernel based on linux-source-2.6.28. (The machine is about 3 months old, so also worked with 2.6.24.) $ lspci | grep Audio 00:06.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio (rev a2) $ lsmod | grep snd snd_hda_intel 435324 3 snd_pcm77896 1 snd_hda_intel snd_seq51376 1 snd_timer 21776 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq snd_seq_device 7828 1 snd_seq snd60856 12 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device soundcore 7952 1 snd snd_page_alloc 9104 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm # cat /dev/sndstat Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.17 emulation code) Kernel: Linux haggis 2.6.27smp64 #3 SMP Tue Dec 23 02:25:46 CST 2008 x86_64 Config options: 0 Installed drivers: Type 10: ALSA emulation Card config: HDA NVidia at 0xfe024000 irq 21 Audio devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Timers: 7: system timer Mixers: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Thanks Ron, that helps some. At least I know what a working one looks like. A little bit more detail, which correlates /dev/sndstat to lspci : $ lspci -v -s00:06.1 00:06.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio (rev a2) Subsystem: Foxconn International, Inc. Device 0d12 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 21 Memory at fe024000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: access denied Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel See how the Card config: matches the lspci info. moe:~# lspci -v -s14.2 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device a002 Flags: slow devsel, IRQ 16 Memory at fe024000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel Do you happen to know what that fast devsel / slow devsel business is about? Thanks, Mike -- Any given program will expand to fill available memory. 23:30:01 up 2:44, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
AMD64 No sound
Lenny KDE I decided to change from 686 to AMD64 architecture after all the buzz the past few days about the virtues of using the AMD64 architecture. After installing Lenny, I have no sound at all. (with 686, I had sound from the install, no problem). moe:~# lspci | grep -i audio 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) moe:~# cat /proc/asound/cards --- no soundcards --- moe:~# cat /dev/sndstat Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.16 emulation code) Kernel: Linux moe 2.6.26-1-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Dec 15 17:25:36 UTC 2008 x86_64 Config options: 0 Installed drivers: Type 10: ALSA emulation Card config: --- no soundcards --- Audio devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Timers: 7: system timer Mixers: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG moe:~# ls -l /dev/{snd,dsp} ls: cannot access /dev/dsp: No such file or directory /dev/snd: total 0 crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 1 2009-01-10 07:28 seq crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 33 2009-01-10 07:28 timer I've done a good bit of searching in the archives, but as of yet I've not found a solution. Thanks in advance, Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: AMD64 No sound
M. Lewis wrote: Lenny KDE I decided to change from 686 to AMD64 architecture after all the buzz the past few days about the virtues of using the AMD64 architecture. After installing Lenny, I have no sound at all. (with 686, I had sound from the install, no problem). moe:~# lspci | grep -i audio 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) moe:~# cat /proc/asound/cards --- no soundcards --- moe:~# cat /dev/sndstat Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.16 emulation code) Kernel: Linux moe 2.6.26-1-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Dec 15 17:25:36 UTC 2008 x86_64 Config options: 0 Installed drivers: Type 10: ALSA emulation Card config: --- no soundcards --- Audio devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Timers: 7: system timer Mixers: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG moe:~# ls -l /dev/{snd,dsp} ls: cannot access /dev/dsp: No such file or directory /dev/snd: total 0 crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 1 2009-01-10 07:28 seq crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 33 2009-01-10 07:28 timer I've done a good bit of searching in the archives, but as of yet I've not found a solution. Thanks in advance, Mike Doing more digging, I find I also have this [1] problem (problem #1). I'm not sure if the two issues are related at all. I have tried booting with iommu=soft, still no sound. [1] http://marc.info/?l=debian-userm=122797497510015w=2 -- To iterate is human; to recurse, divine. - Robert Heller 18:40:01 up 11 min, 2 users, load average: 0.12, 0.09, 0.08 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org