Re: Bus error in Netscape
On Sat, 22 May 1999, George Bonser wrote: On Sat, 22 May 1999, Michelle Coelho wrote: what I get: bash-2.01$ netscape Netscape: Ignoring unsupported netscape contenttype in user mailcap file. Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for default background Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for default background Bus error bash-2.01$ Anyone has any suggestions??? Try starting it as root with: netscape --allow-root And see if it works. This is what I get: pussycat:~# netscape --allow-root /usr/bin/X11/netscape: Cannot be run an root (for security reasons) pussycat:~# netscape /usr/bin/X11/netscape: Cannot be run an root (for security reasons) pussycat:~#
Re: Bus error in Netscape
On Sun, 23 May 1999, George Bonser wrote: Edit the wrapper script to uncomment the allow root. You can find the wrapper script by following the symlinks. Start with ls -l /etc/alternatives/netscape George, /etc/alternatives did not have a link, so I added one using ln -s /usr/X11R6/bin/netscape. Then I went on to comment out the part of the wrapper that does not allow the root to run netscape: # # Don't allow running netscape as root # #if [ $UID -eq 0 -o $EUID -eq 0 ]; then #echo $0: Cannot be run an root (for security reasons) #exit 1 #fi So after all of this, I ran netscape: pussycat:~# netscape Netscape: Ignoring unsupported netscape contenttype in user mailcap file. Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for default background Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for default background Bus error pussycat:~# It's the same problem as when I ran netscape as a user. Thanks for your help. Michelle Michelle Maria Coelho Department of Computer and Information Science Purdue School of Science Phone: 1-317-278-2948 Fax : 1-317-274-9742
Bus error in Netscape
I have 16MB of swap space on the primary hard disk , /dev/hda (where / is mounted as well as the rest of the file systems) and 116MB of swap space on /dev/hdb. Actually, I had been using /dev/hda. Then when netscape gave me a bus error, I connected the second hard disk and ran cfdisk, and dedicated it entirely to swap...Should I have run some other commands..Since no file system was being mounted in it, I did not think this was the need..But one of the experts among you would know for sure.. When I run Netscape as a command on the command line, this is what I get: bash-2.01$ netscape Netscape: Ignoring unsupported netscape contenttype in user mailcap file. Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for default background Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for default background Bus error bash-2.01$ I even tried 'netscape -visual 0x23', but in vain.. And when I click on the Netscape icon, I get nothing. Oh yeah..and if I click on it again, I get a message saying that another user is running netscape as process id xxx, and it tells me to delete /home/mcoelho/.netscape/lock file. I have 16Mb of RAM. mozilla runs fine except for the fact that it complains that this and that color is not found, and it does not display images, and is slow..but that's probably because my modem is a 33Kbps modem. I installed both xli and imagemagick but still can't see images. Anyone has any suggestions??? Thanks, Michelle Michelle Maria Coelho Department of Computer and Information Science Purdue School of Science Phone: 1-317-278-2948 Fax : 1-317-274-9742
CDROM Installation problems
This seems to be more of a hardware problem thanan OS problem. My BIOS is very old, so all I see when the PC is powering up is just the amount of RAM, extended memory and some other stuff on the memory. No mention of the drives detected. The BIOS setup has provisions for 2 IDE drives, but when I set the second to auto-detect, it can't sense the CDROm. Also, the CDROM (Matsushita-Kotobuki) is 4x IDE CR-563-B. It has 4 jumper settings. I put the jumper in all 4 positions abd connected the CDROm to the first IDE drive as slave to the hard disk, but in all cases the BIOS could not find the hard disk controller. The hard disk had the jumper set in the middle slot (as master, right?) My motherboard has a single IDE drive. I contacted customer support for the CDROm, but they were in the least bit supportive. Anyone has any suggestions? Thanks, Michelle. Michelle Maria Coelho Department of Computer and Information Science Purdue School of Science Phone: 1-317-278-2948 Fax : 1-317-274-9742
Re: CDROM Installation problems
On Wed, 19 May 1999, jean-Yves BARBIER wrote: The position is different from one manufacture to another; even from one serie to another! Are you sure the CD-ROM doesn't need a second jumper to be set in slave mode? Is your HD (alone) well auto-recognized by the bios? Yes, the hard disk is auto-recognized by the BIOS when it it alone. JY -- Jean-Yves BARBIER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Les choses ne sont pas toujours ce que l'on voudrait qu'elles soient qu'elles fussent... P. DAC Boycott Intel, watch: http://www.bigbrotherinside.com If you need N components to build your board, you'll ALWAYS have N-1 in stock Murphy's law
Re: How do I load CDRom driver?
No, I bought this CDRom after indtalling linux Michelle Maria Coelho Department of Computer and Information Science Purdue School of Science Phone: 1-317-278-2948 Fax : 1-317-274-9742 On Sun, 16 May 1999, Khalid EZZARAOUI wrote: do you have an over OS (Win95,WinNT, BeOS) that found your cdrom ?
Re: Partitioning hard disk
Yes, thanks..Someone suggested using the md driver. I guess either alternative will work, huh? Michelle Michelle Maria Coelho Department of Computer and Information Science Purdue School of Science Phone: 1-317-278-2948 Fax : 1-317-274-9742 On Sun, 16 May 1999, J Horacio MG wrote: ~ This is how I plan to partitiion the disks: ~ /hda1 40MB ~ swap hda2 8MB ~ /usr hda3 68MB ~ swap hdb1 8MB ~ /usr hdb2 250MB ~ ~ where hda is the 116MB disk and hdb is the 258MB disk. ~ Will the above configuration work..and can I split /usr across 2 ~ partitions or will X complain? I think you could split /usr across two different partitions by making the second a symlink to the first, eg. name hdb2 partition something like /usr2 and make it a symlink to /usr. Horacio
Re: Partitioning hard disk
Oh..so then using the md driver is the only choice if I split /usr? Michelle Michelle Maria Coelho Department of Computer and Information Science Purdue School of Science Phone: 1-317-278-2948 Fax : 1-317-274-9742 On Sun, 16 May 1999, Rob wrote: ~ This is how I plan to partitiion the disks: ~ /hda1 40MB ~ swap hda2 8MB ~ /usr hda3 68MB ~ swap hdb1 8MB ~ /usr hdb2 250MB ~ ~ where hda is the 116MB disk and hdb is the 258MB disk. ~ Will the above configuration work..and can I split /usr across 2 ~ partitions or will X complain? I think you could split /usr across two different partitions by making the second a symlink to the first, eg. name hdb2 partition something like /usr2 and make it a symlink to /usr. Not quite, because then what would you call the *real* /usr (since the name /usr is already taken by a symlink ;)
Configuring X server
I installed the following: twm xf86setup xfree86-common xserver-vga16 xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi zlib6g xterm xbase-clients xfonts-scalable xserver-common xfonts-base xserver-svga xdm I have the following: Video adapter VGA Monitor VGA color Video Memory: 0kb VGA chipset: Western Digital My mouse is Microsoft, so I guess the name is /dev/psaux (it's PS/2 compatible). It's a 2 button mouse. So I configured the Xserver like this: Mouse protocol: Microsoft Mouse device: /dev/psaux Emulate3buttons enabled Resolution Medium (default) Button 3 (default) Sample rate : 0 (default) Emulate3timeout 50 (default) I don't have a video card, so the card selected was none. Then I commited the changes, and ran the server using startx. But the mouse only seems to remain in the first row, and even then moves very fast..it seems to be too sensitive. Also the menu barely pops up. All I get is a fine checkered screen with a cross signifying the mouse pointer. And when I click on any of the buttons, I don't get anything, no arrow, no menu, nothing.. I thought this may be of help in diagnosing the problem: I get the following warning: /dev/psaux unable to get status of mouse fd (Inappropriate ioctl for device) Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. Michelle Maria Coelho Department of Computer and Information Science Purdue School of Science Phone: 1-317-278-2948 Fax : 1-317-274-9742
Re: How do I load CDRom driver?
I did a dmesg|grep 'hd'. All I got was hda1, hda2. So I guess the CDrom was not detected. Michelle Michelle Maria Coelho Department of Computer and Information Science Purdue School of Science Phone: 1-317-278-2948 Fax : 1-317-274-9742
Minimal requirements for xwindows and slave hard disk installation
Hi, I just got myself an old 270 MB hard disk...to supplement the 120Mb I have on my current disk. I've got debian Linux installed on it..Anyone knows how I should go about it. Also, I have about 72MB of free space left on the current disk. Add to that the 270MB(if I pass the smoke test!)..can someone tell me the minimal requirements for an xwindowing system ..I want to install netscape after that.. Thanks.. Michelle M. Coelho Department of Computer and Information Science Purdue School of Science Phone: +1-317-278-2948 Fax : +1-317-274-9742
Mistaken UART
oops, I interchanged digits in the following message: my UART is 16540 not 16450...But does that make nuch of a difference? The problem? Well, I can't connect to my ISP, though my modem is dialing out..I can here it do so, and I can hear the screeching sound. The answers I gave to pppconfig: primary nameserver: 134.68.1.9 secondary nameserver: 134.68.140.1 provider name: provider (the default since I have just one ISP) Password: * username: mcoelho port modem is on: /dev/ttyS0 defaultroute enabled noipdefault modem port speed : 115200 modem initialization string: ATZ (I've let it choose its default settings as I don't know what the initialization string is for my modem: 56k Cardinal connecta external) number to dial : 2785619 ATDT tone authentication method : PAP (My friends who have Win-operating systems are able to connect easily, so I guess my university provides PAP) I ran pon 4 times. The first time plog gave me this: chat: expect (CONNECT) chat: ^M chat: ATDT2785619^M chat:CONNECT chat:--got it chat:send (\d) pppd: Serial Connection Established pppd:Using interface ppp0 pppd:Connect ppp0--/dev/ttyS0 pppd: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x024f pcompacomp] last message repeated 9 times pppd: Hangup (SIGHUP) pppd: Modem hangup pppd: Connection terminated pppd: Exit The 2nd, 3rd and 4th times, as well as all other times in the past, I got this: chat: expect (CONNECT) chat: ^M chat: ATDT2785619^M chat:CONNECT chat:--got it chat:send (\d) pppd: Serial Connection Established pppd:Using interface ppp0 pppd:Connect ppp0--/dev/ttyS0 pppd: [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x024f pcompacomp] last message repeated 9 times pppd: LCP: Timeout Sending Config_Requests pppd: Connection termianted pppd: Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean: pppd: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 1 pppd: Hangup (SIGHUP) pppd: Exit I did a ping 134.68.140.1, but it gave me unknown host 134.68.140.1. So I wasn't connected. Now here are the contents of some pertinent files: /etc/chatscripts/provider ABORT BUSY ABORT NO CARRIER ABORT VOICE ABORT NO DIALTONE ABORT NO ANSWER' ATZ OK ATDT2785619 CONNECT \d\c /etc/ppp/peers/provider #This file was generated by pppconfig. You can edit the following lines but don't delete any or change the comments else you'll confuse pppconfig noauth #pppconfig_noauth connect usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider #pppconfig_connect debug #pppconfig_debug /dev/ttyS0 #pppconfig_ dev 115200 #pppconfig_speed defaultroute #pppconfig_route noipdefault #pppconfig_ipdefault user mcoelho #pppconfig_user #End of pppconfig controlled lines. You can add lines below here wothout confusing pppconfig In the file /etc/ppp/peers/provider.old (whose contents are same as above except for pppconfig_dev and pppconfig_speed which is 384000), I changed '/dev/modem' to '/dev/ttyS0'. /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 134.68.1.9 nameserver 134.68.140.1 /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 pussycat localhost /etc/hostname pussycat /etc/host.conf Order hosts, bind multi on I think you'd be interested in knowing that I got the following messages at boot time: Configuring serial portsfailed Trying to load serial module manually Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled. tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq=4) is a 16450 tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq=3) is a 16450 Success...retrying configuration..done /dev/ttyS0 at 0x03f8 (irq=4) is a 16450 /dev/ttyS1 at 0x02f8 (irq=3) is a 16450 I made a symbolic link called '/dev/modem' to '/dev/ttyS0'. On doing a setserial -a /dev/ttyS0, I got: /dev/ttyS0, line 0, UART: 16450, Port 0x3f8, IRQ: 4, Baud_base:115200, close_delay:50, divisor :0 closing_wait:3000, closing_wait2 :infinite Flags:spd_normal skip_test session_lockout Then, I did a setserial /dev/ttyS0 spd_hi, but the problem persists. In pppconfig, I changed the speed to 38400, yet the problem remained so I it changed back to 115200. Do you reckon the problem to be due to the fact that I've a 16450 UART, though I seriously don't think so I have a 33.6 internal modem (not connected, of course)..should I be using that instead? I've racked my head ..(and some of yours) to fix the problem..I'm so fed up..I hope someone out there can figure out a solution.. Thanks..
Problem installing minicom
O.K..I can't seem to connect to my ISP, so everyone's telling me to use minicom. Fine. So I downloaded minicom*.deb DIRECTLY on floppy (Was I supposed to rawrite it?)..O.K so I specified 'floppy' as the access method in dselect, then the drive as A, and msdos as the drive format. Then dselect responded saying: Fist I need the disks containing the Packages file(s) for the parts of the archive you wish to be able to install. If you need to install from the non-free and contrib areas of the FTP site, you need a floppy with the Packages file for the main Debian distribution. If you don't, then you just need one Packages file Insert a disk containing a Packages file, or type q to quit. I pressed enter on inserting the floppy, and dselect told me: /var/lib/dpkg/methods/mnt/Packages does not exist /var/lib/dpkg/methods/mnt/Packages does not exist /var/lib/dpkg/methods/mnt/Packages does not exist So I copied the Packages file from ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/slink/main/binary-i386/Packages on the same floppy as minicom and I also copied wvdial I ran dselect again and encountered the same error. I even tried what you said, Brandon: dpkg -i minicom*.deb but it gave an error, since it doesn't know where to find the file. So I tried: dpkg -i /dev/fd0/minicom*.deb, and dpkg replied saying: dpkg: error processing /dev/fd0/minicom*.deb (--install): cannot access archive : not a directory Errors were encountered while processing /dev/fd0/minicom*.deb So then I tried dpkg -i /dev/fd0, but I got dpkg-deb:/dev/fd0' is not a debian format archive dpkg: error processing /dev/fd0 (--install): subprocess dpkg-deb--control returned error exit status 2 Errors were encountered while processing /dev/fd0 Could someone tell me how to install minicom and/or wvdial from floppy? -Original Message- From: Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michelle Coelho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 11:53 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Help!!! Can't connect to my ISP using pon On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Michelle Coelho wrote: If it's not too much to ask..could you tell me step-wise how I should install minicom. One step: dpkg -i minicom*.deb It's quite possible that the default strings pppconfig gives you will be correct. Just don't select pap when the time comes. Good luck, Brandon +--- ---+ | Brandon Mitchell * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.resnet.wm.edu/~bhmit1 | | The above is a completely random sequence of bits, any relation to an | | actual message is purely accidental. |
Minicom installed and ppp working...at l o n g last
Thanks for all your help...and patience..I managed to install minicom successfullyand hence was able to edit my /etc/chatscripts/provider file accordingly (My ISP takes pleasure in making things cryptic for Non-Win enthusiasts!!)..Everythings working just fine now..I can dial in with absolutely no problems (touchwood ). Now I want to install the bare minimum X11 and a browser (preferably netscape), as I'm low on disk space (I've just 72 Mb left). Anyone's any suggestions Any other handy utilities you think I should install?? I'll probably try to mount another hard disk...if it's absolutely needed..though I'm not too sure how 'easy' (I'm being optimistic here) that'll be in Linux. Have a great weekend :) Michelle Michelle M. Coelho Department of Computer and Information Science Purdue School of Science Phone: +1-317-278-2948 Fax : +1-317-274-9742
Help!!! Can't connect to my ISP using pon
First of all I'd like to thank all of you for responding to my problem..Here I am giving you all the pertinent data to try and fix my problem. The problem? Well, I can't connect to my ISP, though my modem is dialing out..I can here it do so, and I can hear the screeching sound. The answers I gave to pppconfig: primary nameserver: 134.68.1.9 secondary nameserver: 134.68.140.1 provider name: provider (the default since I have just one ISP) Password: * username: mcoelho port modem is on: /dev/ttyS0 defaultroute enabled noipdefault modem port speed : 115200 modem initialization string: ATZ (I've let it choose its default settings as I don't know what the initialization string is for my modem: 56k Cardinal connecta external) number to dial : 2785619 ATDT tone authentication method : PAP (My friends who have Win-operating systems are able to connect easily, so I guess my university provides PAP) I ran pon 4 times. The first time plog gave me this: chat: expect (CONNECT) chat: ^M chat: ATDT2785619^M chat:CONNECT chat:--got it chat:send (\d) pppd: Serial Connection Established pppd:Using interface ppp0 pppd:Connect ppp0--/dev/ttyS0 pppd: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x024f pcompacomp] last message repeated 9 times pppd: Hangup (SIGHUP) pppd: Modem hangup pppd: Connection terminated pppd: Exit The 2nd, 3rd and 4th times, as well as all other times in the past, I got this: chat: expect (CONNECT) chat: ^M chat: ATDT2785619^M chat:CONNECT chat:--got it chat:send (\d) pppd: Serial Connection Established pppd:Using interface ppp0 pppd:Connect ppp0--/dev/ttyS0 pppd: [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x024f pcompacomp] last message repeated 9 times pppd: LCP: Timeout Sending Config_Requests pppd: Connection termianted pppd: Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean: pppd: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 1 pppd: Hangup (SIGHUP) pppd: Exit I did a ping 134.68.140.1, but it gave me unknown host 134.68.140.1. So I wasn't connected. Now here are the contents of some pertinent files: /etc/chatscripts/provider ABORT BUSY ABORT NO CARRIER ABORT VOICE ABORT NO DIALTONE ABORT NO ANSWER' ATZ OK ATDT2785619 CONNECT \d\c /etc/ppp/peers/provider #This file was generated by pppconfig. You can edit the following lines but don't delete any or change the comments else you'll confuse pppconfig noauth #pppconfig_noauth connect usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider #pppconfig_connect debug #pppconfig_debug /dev/ttyS0 #pppconfig_ dev 115200 #pppconfig_speed defaultroute #pppconfig_route noipdefault #pppconfig_ipdefault user mcoelho #pppconfig_user #End of pppconfig controlled lines. You can add lines below here wothout confusing pppconfig In the file /etc/ppp/peers/provider.old (whose contents are same as above except for pppconfig_dev and pppconfig_speed which is 384000), I changed '/dev/modem' to '/dev/ttyS0'. /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 134.68.1.9 nameserver 134.68.140.1 /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 pussycat localhost /etc/hostname pussycat /etc/host.conf Order hosts, bind multi on I think you'd be interested in knowing that I got the following messages at boot time: Configuring serial portsfailed Trying to load serial module manually Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled. tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq=4) is a 16450 tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq=3) is a 16450 Success...retrying configuration..done /dev/ttyS0 at 0x03f8 (irq=4) is a 16450 /dev/ttyS1 at 0x02f8 (irq=3) is a 16450 I made a symbolic link called '/dev/modem' to '/dev/ttyS0'. On doing a setserial -a /dev/ttyS0, I got: /dev/ttyS0, line 0, UART: 16450, Port 0x3f8, IRQ: 4, Baud_base:115200, close_delay:50, divisor :0 closing_wait:3000, closing_wait2 :infinite Flags:spd_normal skip_test session_lockout Then, I did a setserial /dev/ttyS0 spd_hi, but the problem persists. In pppconfig, I changed the speed to 38400, yet the problem remained so I it changed back to 115200. Do you reckon the problem to be due to the fact that I've a 16450 UART, though I seriously don't think so I have a 33.6 internal modem (not connected, of course)..should I be using that instead? I've racked my head ..(and some of yours) to fix the problem..I'm so fed up..I hope someone out there can figure out a solution.. Thanks..
Modem trouble
I have connected an external 56k modem to com1 (ttyS0). I ran pppconfig and filled in the info to the best of my knowledge. Then I ran pon. Then I did a 'plog' and got the following diagnostics: abort on (NO DIALTONE) abort on (NO ANSWER) send (ATZ^M) expect OK --got it send ATDT2785620 expect (CONNECT) ^M alarm Failed Connect script failed Exit. I tried pon again and got the same diagnostics..Then when I tried pon the fourth time I got the following diagnostics: abort on (NO DIALTONE) abort on (NO ANSWER) send (ATZ^M) expect OK --got it send ATDT2785620 expect (CONNECT) ^M Using interface ppp0 connect ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS0 sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x777e pcomp accomp] last message repeated 9 times LCP timeout sending Config-Request Connection Terminated Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean Problem: all had bit 7 set to 1 Hangup (SIGHUP) Exit I know that the modem is dialing out as I heard it do so all times..In the first case, I didn't hear the screeching sound, whereas in the second, I did. So I thought the serial module device drivers should be enabled. So I ran modconf as root and enabled them, but the system couldn't detect any. What happened was at boot time, the system hanged. So then I disabled serial modules... My 486 has a 16450 UART...Do you reckon this to be the problem. Should I be using a modem of lower speed, say, 33.6?? Here are some of the lines from /var/log/kern.log kernel: serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled . . . kernel: eata_dma : No BIOS32 extensions present. This driver release depends on it . . . pppd: pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0 pppd: Using interface ppp0 pppd: Connect: ppp0--/dev/tty1 pppd: LCP:timeout sending Config-Requests pppd: Connection terminated pppd: Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean pppd: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 1 . . . pppd: Exit . . . pppd: In file /etc/ppp/peers/provider : unrecognized option '/dev/modem' Having run pon, how do I know if I'm connected. Will issuing a telnet connect me to the remote server? I have just the base system. I have no communcation software, like seyon or minicom or EzPPP, etc..neither do I have any GUI, like XWindows..And I am the sole user of the system. I intend adding more utililies, like XWIndows, etc..once I have the modem working properly and am able to connect to my ISP.
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Hi , I'm the person whose mail you'd replied to regarding whether I'd have problems with my mouse since it wasn't plugged in at the time of installing Linux... Anyway now, I'm having problems with my modem. As you advised me, I bought a 56k External modem. It's a Cardinal Connecta V.34. I plugged it into the serial 1 port of my PC. Since the mouse is in the mouse port, which I assume is ttyS0, I configured the modem for ttyS1. I answered all the questions as asked by pppconfig to the best of my knowledge. Then I quit the program having wrote all the files. At the command prompt, I ran 'pon provider' as I have just one ISP. I immediately got the next command prompt...so I did 'telnet' and it didn't work. Then I did 'ps' and it showed the following: PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND 105 1 S 0.01 -bash 106 2 S 0.00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty2 107 3 S 0.00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty3 108 4 S 0.00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty4 109 5 S 0.00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty5 110 6 S 0.00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty6 129 S1 S 0.00 /usr/sbin/ppd call provider 130 S1 S 0.00 /usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider 131 1 R 0.00 ps Then I entered 'poff' at the command line, and then 'ps' again and this time the 7th and 8th lines from above were not there. I dunno, should I have waited.But I didn't here any 'screeching' sound from my modem..nor did I see any wild characters on my screen.. Could somebody out there please give me a step by step approch to how I should do things from the time I connect my modem thru' a 25 pin connector to the computer, connect the line from my telephone to the 'phone' input of my modem, connect the line supplied with my modem to the main telephone jack on one end and the 'line' input of the modem on the other till the time I can issue the command 'telnet 134.68.140.1' and can safely log on to my system at school... Here's my system's configuration: 486 ISA bus IDE controller 120 MB HD 16MB Ram I don't see if any of this will be of use, but I've given it just incase. I wanted to buy a 56k internal, but many people advised me against it saying that it wouldn't work on my 486. So I bought a 33.6K internal modem..Do you think I should use an internal modem instead of the external one..My ISP provides 56k speed. Also my ISP provides PAP (I think ) since almost everyone who connects to it uses Windows 95 or higher. Also, the modem came with some installation floppies for Windows (but, then, what doesn't, nowadays??!), but this is not a Winmodem..at least it doesn't call itself that. Will I have to write some chatscript or something??? If possible, please explain things to me in as much layman's language as you can...A prompt reply would be tremendously appreciated. Thank you so much.