Re: How do I clone a Debian Distro from a 32Gb Class 10 MicroSD card to a 16Gb Class 10 A1 MicroSD card?
Rico, I now realise I started with Ubuntu thinking that Focal was another release od Debian and now gone doen the route of getting that Linux distro operating nicely for me and really don't want to change things over to Buster. Armbian's website was not clear which one was "Debian" and which one was "Ubuntu". On Tue, 28 Sept 2021 at 16:25, Reco wrote: > On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 07:28:09PM +0100, Myron wrote: > > On Mon, 27 Sept 2021 at 15:30, Reco wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 01:36:59PM +0100, Myron wrote: > > > > This is on a Lemaker BananaPro SoC board running on Armbian. > > > > > > I.e. - not Debian, but Debian derivative. > > > In this particular case it actually matters. > > > > Noob question. Why would it matter? > > In this case, it's the way Armbian builds, installs and maintains the > bootloader. Specifically, u-boot. > I'm not saying they're doing it wrong way, but it does differ from the > way Debian handles u-boot. Same can be said about Armbian kernel, but in > this case it does not matter. > > So, I referred to /usr/lib/u-boot/platform_install.sh , because it's the > Armbian-specific file. If you were using Debian, I'd have to refer to > other ways of installing u-boot. > ... u-boot is something I may look at in the future. I am absolutely a newbie to the topic of u-boot. > > 2) Proceed with copying filesystem contents as outlined in previous > > > e-mail. > > > > This I shall try and do when I get the other card. Hopefully I can > shrink > > the partition to under 15Gb, clone the partition from the 32Gb card to a > > 16Gb card, buut off the 16Gb card and expand the partition to the full > > capacity of the 16Gb card. > > > > Can it be so simple and if not, how many gotyas are there? > > If you're using dump/restore for this - there are none. Just make sure > you keep filesystem's UUID the same. > If, for instance, you'd use tar(1) or cp(1) to copy files - some > filesystem-specific extended attributes would be lost. > It would not render the OS unbootable (or unusable), but it would lead > to some funny breakage (like /bin/ping is working for root only). > Here is where my mistake is costing me a little. Where and how do I get dump and restore? > I've found the script, but may been help understanding some of it. > > In simple terms: > > 1) Your root filesystem UUID is > UUID=dffd2ee5-5480-480b-9853-7884f8ba5e47, parition ID is e069b87e-01 > (uuidpart in /proc/cmdline) > > 2) Since it's a single partition, this corresponds to /dev/mmcblk0p1. > The device itself therefore is /dev/mmcblk0, as long as you're using SBC > MMC slot, that it. > Yes, I am using only the SBC's MMC slot. > 3) So, what the script is actually trying to do is: > > a) Overwrite with zeroes first 1024 kilobytes of mmcblk0 starting with > first kilobyte (i.e. - excluding one). > > b) Dump > > /usr/lib/linux-u-boot-current-bananapipro_21.08.2_armhf/u-boot-sunxi-with-spl.bin > to the same mmcblk0, starting at 8192 byte at the beginning of the > device. > > I.e., after you finish the cloning the filesystem's contents all you > need to do is to execute both commands from write_uboot_platform(), > replacing "$2" with /dev/mmcblk0 (or /dev/sd? if you're using an USB > card reader), and $1 with > /usr/lib/linux-u-boot-current-bananapipro_21.08.2_armhf. > And you do not have to use armhf dd for this, x86 dd will do the job > just as well. > > It may take more than one try (it is for me at least), but failed > attempts to boot should not damage the hardware (at least it works this > way for me). Just have that USB-TTL cable ready, u-boot is a pain to > troubleshoot if you do not have an access to UART. > Yes, I have the USB-TTL cable ready and waiting. So far it's got me out of a few I've-locked-myself-out-again situations leaving the only option to use the USB-TTL. There is something I'm reading about using resize2fs and fdisk to shrink the file system and partition, but I don't exactly understand the erasure and re-creation of the partition using fdisk. Does it mean that if I remove the partition and then re-create the partition from the same starting block as the old partition, that the data on the MicroSD card will not actually be erased, but will be encapsulated by the new smaller partition? Does that make any sense? This is how the MMC card is set-up right now. Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 29.74 GiB, 31914983424 bytes, 62333952 sectors Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disklabel
Re: How do I clone a Debian Distro from a 32Gb Class 10 MicroSD card to a 16Gb Class 10 A1 MicroSD card?
Oops. I didn't fully answer all the questions,
On Sat, 18 Sept 2021 at 20:20, David Christensen
wrote:
> On 9/18/21 4:35 AM, Myron wrote:
> > Never done this one with Linux before. I know that there is less than
> 16Gb
> > of data written to the Class 10 32Gb MicroSD card which is used as the
> > primary system storage on a single board system-on-a-chip computer. What
> > I'm after is getting a 16 Gb Class 10 A1 MicroSD card and clone the
> entire
> > system from the 32Gb card to the 16Gb card.
> >
> > What I'm after is when I start the SOC computer from the replacement 16Gv
> > Class 10 A1 MicroSD card, it will just start like there have been no
> > changes, well, apart from there being 16Gb storage and not slower 32Gb
> > storage.
> >
> > This is relatively easy to do on Windows. No clue how to do this with
> > Linux.
> >
>
>
> Backup your data. I would take a raw binary image of the entire 32 GB
> MicroSD card as well.
>
Done that. Sector-by-sector back-up.
My guess is that you should resize the contents of the 32 GB MicroSD
> card to fit onto the 16 GB MicroSD card, and then clone.
>
Yes. This is how I would like to do this. Is it possible to do this while
the SBC is online? It resized the image online on first install from about
a 4Gb partition to a 32Gb partition. It was a pre-built image. Download,
write image to SD card, insert card in SBC, turn on and follow instructions.
> But, the devil is in the details and it would be helpful if we had more
> information...
>
>
> What is the make and model of your "single board system-on-a-chip
> computer" (SBC)? What CPU, memory, or other options does it have? What
> is the technical support URL?
>
http://www.lemaker.org/product-bananapro-index.html
I followed the Armbian link as it's the only up-to-date and supported
distro on offer.
Is the SBC connected to a keyboard, mouse, and monitor, to a serial
> console, or to some other console? Can you SSH into it?
>
Yep. I can SSH into it. I have a USB to 3v3 TTL RS232 board and can
connect to the serial debug port and also the ability to connect USB
keyboard and mouse and a HDMI monitor.
> How did you create a working Debian (?) GNU/Linux instance on the 32 GB
> MicroSD card? If you followed some instructions, what is the URL?
>
>From here: https://www.armbian.com/banana-pi-pro/
Followed instructions when the USB to 3v3 TTL RS232 board arrived as it
appears this is how to start and complete the initial start-up otherwise
the SBC appears to be dead.If it's in the instructions then I missed that
and nearly threw the SBC in the trash. Glad I didn't as it appears to be
quite reliable.
> On the 32 GB MicroSD card Debian instance, please login as root, run the
> following commands, and reply with the complete console session --
> prompts, commands entered, output obtained:
>
> # /bin/bash -l
> # export PS1='\n\D{%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S} \u@\h \w\n\$ '
> # cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a
> # egrep 'vendor_id|model name' /proc/cpuinfo | head -n 2
> # grep MemTotal /proc/meminfo
> # fdisk -l
>
[[[
root@loki:~# /bin/bash -l
Here lie dragons. Careful where you tread!
root@loki:~# export PS1='\n\D{%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S} \u@\h \w\n\$ '
2021-09-27 20:19:28 root@loki ~
# cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a
bullseye/sid
Linux loki 5.10.60-sunxi #21.08.2 SMP Tue Sep 14 16:28:44 UTC 2021 armv7l
armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
2021-09-27 20:19:42 root@loki ~
# egrep 'vendor_id|model name' /proc/cpuinfo | head -n 2
model name : ARMv7 Processor rev 4 (v7l)
model name : ARMv7 Processor rev 4 (v7l)
2021-09-27 20:19:50 root@loki ~
# grep MemTotal /proc/meminfo
MemTotal: 990484 kB
2021-09-27 20:19:59 root@loki ~
# fdisk -l
Disk /dev/ram0: 4 MiB, 4194304 bytes, 8192 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disk /dev/ram1: 4 MiB, 4194304 bytes, 8192 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disk /dev/ram2: 4 MiB, 4194304 bytes, 8192 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disk /dev/ram3: 4 MiB, 4194304 bytes, 8192 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 29.74 GiB, 31914983424 bytes, 62333952 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk iden
Re: How do I clone a Debian Distro from a 32Gb Class 10 MicroSD card to a 16Gb Class 10 A1 MicroSD card?
Hello Andei. As requested. What I've got running Armbian Linux on is . . . https://linux-sunxi.org/LeMaker_Banana_Pro root@loki:~# fdisk -l Disk /dev/ram0: 4 MiB, 4194304 bytes, 8192 sectors Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes Disk /dev/ram1: 4 MiB, 4194304 bytes, 8192 sectors Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes Disk /dev/ram2: 4 MiB, 4194304 bytes, 8192 sectors Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes Disk /dev/ram3: 4 MiB, 4194304 bytes, 8192 sectors Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 29.74 GiB, 31914983424 bytes, 62333952 sectors Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disklabel type: dos Disk identifier: 0xe069b87e Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type /dev/mmcblk0p1 8192 61702143 61693952 29.4G 83 Linux Disk /dev/zram0: 483.64 MiB, 507117568 bytes, 123808 sectors Units: sectors of 1 * 4096 = 4096 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes Disk /dev/zram1: 50 MiB, 52428800 bytes, 12800 sectors Units: sectors of 1 * 4096 = 4096 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes root@loki:~# lsblk -f NAMEFSTYPE LABEL UUID FSAVAIL FSUSE% MOUNTPOINT mmcblk0 └─mmcblk0p1 ext4 dffd2ee5-5480-480b-9853-7884f8ba5e47 23G 18% / zram0 [SWAP] zram1 21.7M 48% /var/log root@loki:~# On Sun, 19 Sept 2021 at 05:58, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 18 sep 21, 12:35:13, Myron wrote: > > Never done this one with Linux before. I know that there is less than > 16Gb > > of data written to the Class 10 32Gb MicroSD card which is used as the > > primary system storage on a single board system-on-a-chip computer. What > > I'm after is getting a 16 Gb Class 10 A1 MicroSD card and clone the > entire > > system from the 32Gb card to the 16Gb card. > > > > What I'm after is when I start the SOC computer from the replacement 16Gv > > Class 10 A1 MicroSD card, it will just start like there have been no > > changes, well, apart from there being 16Gb storage and not slower 32Gb > > storage. > > > > This is relatively easy to do on Windows. No clue how to do this with > > Linux. > > Do you have another Linux (capable) system to work with? In this case > try GParted, possibly from a live Linux if all your other systems are > Windows: > > > https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/11.0.0-live+nonfree/amd64/iso-hybrid/ > > If all you have to work with is the Linux system itself you need to do > an "online resize" of the filesystem(s) and then adjust the partition > table to match[1]. > > Before starting the operation make sure you are shrinking to the correct > size, because many SD cards are slightly smaller than advertised. If in > doubt shrink more, copy and then grow (online grow is mostly the same as > shrink -- in reverse order -- and will be much faster as there is no > data to move around). > > Please post the full output of: > > fdisk -l > lsblk -f > > (use sudo or root as needed) > > with both SD cards plugged in case you need assistance with the manual > method. > > [1] yes, the partition and the filesystem within it can be adjusted > independently, even for NTFS. The graphical tools (GParted included) > just show this to be one operation. > > Hope this helps, > Andrei > -- > http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser >
Re: How do I clone a Debian Distro from a 32Gb Class 10 MicroSD card to a 16Gb Class 10 A1 MicroSD card?
Hello David. As requested . . . .
2021-09-27 13:49:50 root@loki ~
# cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a
bullseye/sid
Linux loki 5.10.60-sunxi #21.08.2 SMP Tue Sep 14 16:28:44 UTC 2021 armv7l
armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
2021-09-27 13:50:06 root@loki ~
# egrep 'vendor_id|model name' /proc/cpuinfo | head -n 2
model name : ARMv7 Processor rev 4 (v7l)
model name : ARMv7 Processor rev 4 (v7l)
2021-09-27 13:50:53 root@loki ~
# fdisk -l
Disk /dev/ram0: 4 MiB, 4194304 bytes, 8192 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disk /dev/ram1: 4 MiB, 4194304 bytes, 8192 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disk /dev/ram2: 4 MiB, 4194304 bytes, 8192 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disk /dev/ram3: 4 MiB, 4194304 bytes, 8192 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 29.74 GiB, 31914983424 bytes, 62333952 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0xe069b87e
Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type
/dev/mmcblk0p1 8192 61702143 61693952 29.4G 83 Linux
Disk /dev/zram0: 483.64 MiB, 507117568 bytes, 123808 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 4096 = 4096 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disk /dev/zram1: 50 MiB, 52428800 bytes, 12800 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 4096 = 4096 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
On Sat, 18 Sept 2021 at 20:20, David Christensen
wrote:
> On 9/18/21 4:35 AM, Myron wrote:
> > Never done this one with Linux before. I know that there is less than
> 16Gb
> > of data written to the Class 10 32Gb MicroSD card which is used as the
> > primary system storage on a single board system-on-a-chip computer. What
> > I'm after is getting a 16 Gb Class 10 A1 MicroSD card and clone the
> entire
> > system from the 32Gb card to the 16Gb card.
> >
> > What I'm after is when I start the SOC computer from the replacement 16Gv
> > Class 10 A1 MicroSD card, it will just start like there have been no
> > changes, well, apart from there being 16Gb storage and not slower 32Gb
> > storage.
> >
> > This is relatively easy to do on Windows. No clue how to do this with
> > Linux.
> >
>
>
> Backup your data. I would take a raw binary image of the entire 32 GB
> MicroSD card as well.
>
>
> My guess is that you should resize the contents of the 32 GB MicroSD
> card to fit onto the 16 GB MicroSD card, and then clone.
>
>
> But, the devil is in the details and it would be helpful if we had more
> information...
>
>
> What is the make and model of your "single board system-on-a-chip
> computer" (SBC)? What CPU, memory, or other options does it have? What
> is the technical support URL?
>
>
> Is the SBC connected to a keyboard, mouse, and monitor, to a serial
> console, or to some other console? Can you SSH into it?
>
>
> How did you create a working Debian (?) GNU/Linux instance on the 32 GB
> MicroSD card? If you followed some instructions, what is the URL?
>
>
> On the 32 GB MicroSD card Debian instance, please login as root, run the
> following commands, and reply with the complete console session --
> prompts, commands entered, output obtained:
>
> # /bin/bash -l
>
> # export PS1='\n\D{%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S} \u@\h \w\n\$ '
>
> # cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a
>
> # egrep 'vendor_id|model name' /proc/cpuinfo | head -n 2
>
> # grep MemTotal /proc/meminfo
>
> # fdisk -l
>
>
> David
>
>
Re: How do I clone a Debian Distro from a 32Gb Class 10 MicroSD card to a 16Gb Class 10 A1 MicroSD card?
It's Armbian Focal on a Lemaker BananaPro AllWinner ARM A20 SoC device. Boots off the card and is also the root filesystem. No other physical storage is attached to. On Sat, 18 Sept 2021 at 13:02, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-09-18 at 07:53, Reco wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 12:35:13PM +0100, Myron wrote: > >> This is relatively easy to do on Windows. > > > > This is true only if you're using that sad excuse for a filesystem > > called NTFS. > > > >> No clue how to do this with Linux. > > > > 1) Plug-in source card, use dump(8) to backup the contents of its > > filesystem. > > 2) Plug-in target card, create appropriate partition(s) on it. > > 3) Make the needed amount of filesystems on a target SD card. > > For ext4 you'll want to use -U option of mkfs to clone filesystem UUIDs > > (i.e. UUID on the target card must be the same compared to the source > > one). > > 4) Use restore(8) to recreate filesystem(s) contents on a target card. > > 5) Unmount filesystems made on a target card. > > Will this really be enough? > > I'd expect that you'd also need to bring across the bootability > configuration, which - depending on how it's set up on that particular > device - might well require additional steps. > > For hard-drive installs you're likely to have a GRUB installation, which > wouldn't be brought across by a measure like this. For a SD-card-based > install I'm not sure, but I'd be a bit surprised to learn that no such > non-filesystem-based configuration is necessary. > > -- >The Wanderer > > The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one > persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all > progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw > >
Re: How do I clone a Debian Distro from a 32Gb Class 10 MicroSD card to a 16Gb Class 10 A1 MicroSD card?
This is on a Lemaker BananaPro SoC board running on Armbian. There is one partition on it and it's EXT4 that takes up the entire 32Gb MicroSD card. Not NTFS. There are some more replies on this thread I need to read after I send this, but this SoC card boots off this MicroSD card and the entire root filesystem is on it. The MicroSD card is the boot and system drive. On Sat, 18 Sept 2021 at 12:53, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 12:35:13PM +0100, Myron wrote: > > This is relatively easy to do on Windows. > > This is true only if you're using that sad excuse for a filesystem > called NTFS. > > > No clue how to do this with Linux. > > 1) Plug-in source card, use dump(8) to backup the contents of its > filesystem. > 2) Plug-in target card, create appropriate partition(s) on it. > 3) Make the needed amount of filesystems on a target SD card. > For ext4 you'll want to use -U option of mkfs to clone filesystem UUIDs > (i.e. UUID on the target card must be the same compared to the source > one). > 4) Use restore(8) to recreate filesystem(s) contents on a target card. > 5) Unmount filesystems made on a target card. > > Reco > >
How do I clone a Debian Distro from a 32Gb Class 10 MicroSD card to a 16Gb Class 10 A1 MicroSD card?
Never done this one with Linux before. I know that there is less than 16Gb of data written to the Class 10 32Gb MicroSD card which is used as the primary system storage on a single board system-on-a-chip computer. What I'm after is getting a 16 Gb Class 10 A1 MicroSD card and clone the entire system from the 32Gb card to the 16Gb card. What I'm after is when I start the SOC computer from the replacement 16Gv Class 10 A1 MicroSD card, it will just start like there have been no changes, well, apart from there being 16Gb storage and not slower 32Gb storage. This is relatively easy to do on Windows. No clue how to do this with Linux.
Re: telnet to localhost
On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Wiria A Kusuma wrote: > I can not telnet or ftp to localhost, it says that service is not > started, but I can see them in /etc/service, can some body tell me where > should I check for this error? > Further more I can not even ftp or http to my box from the net, even > thou my apache and wuftpd is up and running.., it says something like > connection closed by my server. > > but I can do every outbound connection like ftp, telnet to the others > from my box, right now running kernel 2.0.32... > > thanks > kusuma Kasuma, The reason you cannot telnet or ftp is that the inetd daemon is not running. Even when off the 'net', telnet, ftp and many other daemons are started by the inetd daemon. Think of inetd as a supervisor daemon. You can get inetd or a similar package called xinetd ( which I use ). The inetd daemon comes with netbase so you should have it. The xinetd daemon has it's own package and is called xinetd ( what else :)). Hope this helps. Myron. .sig is not available right now. Leave you name, number and something inspirational after the dotted line and it will get back to you as soon as possible. . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
[HELP] Need name/copy of script which loads modules at startup
A while back, when I was playing with my kernel, I wanted to stop loading the modules at startup so I moved/deleted the script or part thereof from the rc.? directory. The plan was that I would put it back in but then I forgot. Now I would like to load my modules at startup and I have forgotten where this is done. I think it was a script in rc.boot but then I could be wrong :( Thanks in advance, Myron. .sig is not available right now. Leave you name, number and something inspirational after the dotted line and it will get back to you as soon as possible. . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape 4.04.... [Read this Please!]
Mine works fine. I use hamm. .sig is not available right now. Leave you name, number and something inspirational after the dotted line and it will get back to you as soon as possible. . On Sun, 18 Jan 1998, Timothy M. Hospedales wrote: > I have been following various messages about Netscape 4.04, and it > seems to me that lots of people's NSN4 don't do Java properly, AND, > (Please correct me if i'm wrong), I haven't seen any successfull > reponses to mine or anyone else's messages about fixing this problem. > So! Will anyone who's NSN4 will do Java applets properly please > respond to this, then maybe we can figure out what those of us whose > Java does not work have missed. > > Thanks, > Timothy > > > -- > TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > > -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
