Re: Plonking
Hal Vaughan said: On Friday 10 June 2005 10:17 pm, Paul Johnson wrote: On Friday June 10 2005 8:08 am, Phil Dyer wrote: plonk! Oh, please. Can we possibly get any more childish? Please don't advertise your filters, it tends to cause headers to evolve. Even the emotionally disturbed junior high students I used to teach know that is about the same as jamming your fingers in your ears and singing loudly -- and they know how childish that is, too. oh, geez. lighten up guys. I'm on this list to see if I can help some newbies on some *debian* problems. After an OT for this long, I get my dander up a little. I apologize. and now back to our regularly scheduled off topic extravaganza. -- /phil signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: KDE 3.4
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Piero Piutti said: deb http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.0/ ./ There's a kde-3.4.1 there now too. - -- /phil -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCqW9zGbd/rBLcaFwRAl42AKDVMYWA3xe8KqmYFfP2WBG2q1FyRQCdHelG +wzNKPkBKtce0O8L4K1L5UA= =fedq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dns resolving from linux pc in windows network
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 debian said: We use windows 2003 servers and various linux application servers, DNS is on windows and we have a suffix say; test.tralala So when i perform the command Host 192.168.0.10 i must get a reply that this host is pipo.test.tralala (the FQDN). Is this possible to do ? If this works, my reports will also be correct. Sure, just create a reverse zone on the windows dns server. Since this is a linux ml, I won't go into how to do it. :) - -- /phil -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) Comment: Public Key: http://www.dyermaker.org/gpgkey iD8DBQFCqZC4Gbd/rBLcaFwRAlqrAKCQci8rfcJJA7n1OZjo/w2lf9p0zACfSEPq PR6y6pNQ7awTYGP20o6lQcs= =7cyX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SPAM:Re: Dns resolving from linux pc in windows network
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 debian said: Thnx for the reply. My windows has reverse zone. Can you see the rev entry in windows dns for a specific box? - From the windows box, can you nslookup the ipaddress with correct results? This is an error: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sarg-2.0.5]# host 10.51.10.10 Host 10.10.51.10.in-addr.arpa not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sarg-2.0.5]# Is the debian box using the windows server to resolve? Look at /etc/resolv.conf. it should have the windows NS in there... first. - -- /phil -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) Comment: Public Key: http://www.dyermaker.org/gpgkey iD8DBQFCqZRXGbd/rBLcaFwRAmFBAKCBI18Z3eifJObQCaXRYvFJnxlk0wCgwUVk aFA+LEIypCF9I3dfZGg7kKs= =julr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Top posting (a different point of view)
I agree with that point exactly. PS: 2 points for anybody that can figure out which point, or even which poster I'm agreeing with. (I really did try to stay out of this...) phil Mark said: Paul Johnson wrote: On Thursday June 9 2005 5:10 pm, Patrick Wiseman wrote: I completely agree. Whoever (the attribution is not clear to me) wrote that crap about top posters vs bottom posters is an arrogant idiot. Processing information in reverse order is much more efficient Do you drive in reverse on the freeway, too? After all, doing it backwards is more efficient. Wait a minute, When you read a book. You start on page one and read right to the back of the book (Or bottom of the book) when you finish. Right? Same (should) go for emails, you start at the top with reading, and end up at the bottom where youre email answer begins. Is that not the best way of making it easier for other people to understand your email? Still, bottom posters may be fighting a lost battle. In all the companies i've worked for so far, there has not been a single company with a bottom post policy of any kind. These companies are usually the exchange server kind... Thanks, Mark p.s. Sorry Paul, for replying to you alone... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Top posting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 :0 * ^Subject: .*Top Posting /dev/null plonk! - -- /phil -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) Comment: Public Key: http://www.dyermaker.org/gpgkey iD8DBQFCqazoGbd/rBLcaFwRApEUAKCBS0dHR+PtjqAOovs4jZKOCq8o1wCgkhpr 7hPqOTnCcbSs+BqA+ormvbg= =ay7c -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IP Address assigned by ISP, dns set as static?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Nicholls said: I've been having a few problems with dns lookups and have been given a new set up dns servers and not the same ones placed into resolv.conf by dhcp. Obviously if I make a change to resolv.conf, it will be soon-after be updated back to the original dns servers by dhcp. I do it by editing/creating /etc/dhclient-enter-hooks like so: # redefine the function which changes resolv.conf to do nothing make_resolv_conf() { return } The other way would be to edit /etc/dhclient.conf and tell it to prepend to the list of dns servers prepend domain-name-servers x.x.x.x; - -- /phil -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCqcl0Gbd/rBLcaFwRAtwCAJ9gis6FSUkzjZjPDfEd5SOmf9EvnACcDL+L WrQQbGIsmExOyQO5mO080hs= =TuFB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: i think I switched to Etch without knowing it
John Hasler said: Marty writes: This is all very mysterious to me, all these people lacking an apt.conf file. toncho/~ 1 ls /etc/apt apt-file.conf apt.conf.d listchanges.conf sources.list [EMAIL PROTECTED] pad]$ ls /etc/apt apt.conf.d sources.list -- /phil -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sudden constant spoofing of my address
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto C. Sanchez said: Pretty much. And since most now do S/MIME and PGP/MIME instead of the old ASCII inline, if they don't it shows up as some random attachment, instead of a bunch of crap at the top and bottom of a message. The thing with PGP/MIME is that it eats mailing list footers a lot. I notice it in t-bird and mutt. Not really a big deal, but annoying. Personally, I like the bunch of crap at the top and bottom. :) - -- /phil -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCqhMhGbd/rBLcaFwRAsstAJwMmmBKVz6HCH90RDvw1v0OFtTsEwCgvayH F4aq8lMIxYTJsMmgD+AQ1qk= =cmIM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jason G Skala said: I am running woody still and if I do any apt-get command from update to upgrade I get the following apt-get update gives apt-get update Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org stable/main Packages Since sarge is now stable, I'm sure that's the problem. Try s/stable/woody/g in your sources.list. - -- /phil -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) Comment: Public Key: http://www.dyermaker.org/gpgkey iD8DBQFCp0MlGbd/rBLcaFwRAg5lAJwM2Rcmh855Y1V36JShGlN8r4CdKQCfaL4L IJZRxj15s5Z1F9CW0TKurVM= =c//t -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Confused-New Stable Sarge Dist-Upgrade
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Leonard Chatagnier said: tar: ./lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686/modules.symbols: Cannot write: No space left on device tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors I chacked partition space with df and seem to have ample room as shown ChatagnierL-Home:~# df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda2 14114049 18722 86% / Your / partition is where /lib lives, and you've only got ~18MB. I'd say your modules directory should take up more than that. 30MB+. Prolly not enough space. - -- /phil -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCpjPMGbd/rBLcaFwRAgcaAJ9hXp+aR0WdwN90+uPS6AiEpz2deQCfbWoS cslOOt338kIVzZ2kezNH96g= =nTnj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Only root access the internet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 xxx xxx said: Hi all, I'm trying for the last 6 months to connect to the Internet as an ordinary user but only root can! I gave full permissions to pppd, all /etc/ppp files, kppp, wvdial. I can connect but when I open Mozilla I can't connect anywhere. Only root can! I tried to use pon with no result. I'm using Debain Woody v3 r2 k2.4.18 Any advice would be appreciated! add your normal user to the group dip. adduser user dip - -- /phil -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) Comment: Public Key: http://www.dyermaker.org/gpgkey iD8DBQFCoGg1Gbd/rBLcaFwRAgsoAJwOEwKb0JKVVVsIGxkCXZoRhEcu4gCfSIOW wcA2N4nVsdgUEtjHEuUfzSw= =WCxK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Only root access the internet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Phil Dyer said: xxx xxx said: Hi all, I'm trying for the last 6 months to connect to the Internet as an ordinary user but only root can! I gave full permissions to pppd, all /etc/ppp files, kppp, wvdial. I can connect but when I open Mozilla I can't connect anywhere. Only root can! I tried to use pon with no result. I'm using Debain Woody v3 r2 k2.4.18 Any advice would be appreciated! add your normal user to the group dip. adduser user dip Now that you've modified pppd permissions and files, I'd go ahead and reinstall pppd as well to fix all the permissions. - -- /phil -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) Comment: Public Key: http://www.dyermaker.org/gpgkey iD8DBQFCoGrTGbd/rBLcaFwRAn06AJ0bXk61ISt96Ntq2Ozxl0+wMgWUAQCgjVOV 0Oc6tMwDeh1I0vDvUjydvWo= =B9ZU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: root compromise on debian woody
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joey Hess said: Well to choose one security hole at random out of dozens to hundreds that remain unfixed in woody's kernels, this one allows anyone to go from a normal user account to root: CAN-2005-1263 [Linux kernel ELF core dump privilege escalation] - kernel-source-2.6.11 2.6.11 2.6.11-4 - kernel-source-2.6.8 2.6.8-16 - kernel-source-2.4.27 2.4.27-10 I'm a little confused on this. First, I don't see that 2.6.x or 2.4.27 is available in woody - at least from the debian.org packages page for woody. Also, are we saying that the stable (woody) debian is full of security holes? Aren't kernel 'sploits fixed in security updates. I may just not be reading correctly. - -- /phil -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFClxIFGbd/rBLcaFwRAuN+AKCN4FrE8CTcwuRrEanQI/6SrPQxiwCgli5P x/G/bDYUVPRYsUg5Ki64kOY= =cO5P -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT Required Options?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Dickopp said: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin writes: Apparently, command line programs exist for Microsoft Windows which can only be run successfully if at least one command line option is provided to them. That's true of Unix and Linux as well. Can you cite a Unix or GNU/Linux command line program which has this property? I cannot think of even one, but maybe that's just my lack of imagination. :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] scripts]# tar tar: You must specify one of the `-Acdtrux' options - -- /phil -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCl2eFGbd/rBLcaFwRAq4DAKCYVSLJXLFOIfY+PvxZUEuAkALy4gCglSm6 XVjExjTyEgE+4Uo4bGmsZzY= =aWjH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Custom kernel building and mkinitrd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ibrahim Mubarak said: OK. So I went ahead and downloaded the latest kernel off of kernel.org, compiled it and installed it. Still mkinitrd doesn't output the image. So I tried to mkinitrd of the running kernel. Still nothing. I am guessing it is an initrd-tools bug. But not really sure. I tried the -k option to see if it does anything. And yes. The tmp directory gets filled. But I don't know what to do from there to start debugging. If you are not going to respond to this, can you at least tell me where I should go with this problem? Thanks. I'm guessing that you do have initrd enabled in the kernel? Block Devices - RAM Disk Support - Initial RAM disk (initrd) phil -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) Comment: Public Key: http://www.dyermaker.org/gpgkey iD8DBQFClNovGbd/rBLcaFwRAqWJAJwKaK1sK21TIZEb+hW72vXujmFirQCg1c6B DtOTTopHgR1iLUP5dzC0Vh0= =2jbW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: html to pdf conversion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Deboo ^ said: Is there a html to pdf converter utility/script or any such thing available for debian? I could not find using apt search. you can use a combination of html2ps and ps2pdf. They are both available as deb packages. - -- /phil -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) Comment: Public Key: http://www.dyermaker.org/gpgkey iD8DBQFCkjZtGbd/rBLcaFwRAkNFAKCiz7AnK+MoA3W3QjuNU7pQ2E5zRACePGEH m2axAubqEH753gePNJ9e8R0= =28DK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network scan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexandar Angelov said: Mark Roach wrote: Do you know any command(script) to scan range from 192.168.35.1 to 92.168.35.255 and return if port :80 , :21 and MAC Addr. nmap MAC? Sure. nmap will return the mac...if the scanned machine is on your subnet. - -- /phil -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCh8+GGbd/rBLcaFwRAmBzAJ0ZJkIgZcwKhkX+m9KzgxLA6CfWJQCgk9ln rgI3eOhsL4tggH0sxWH4LiM= =dw+8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: something unclear with sed for me
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andras Lorincz wrote: I want to replaces all multiple spaces with one space. My first attempt was this: sed -e 's/\ */\ /g' This replaced all multiple spaces with one but as a side effect, sed inserted a space between all characters. You told sed replace 0 or more whitespace characters with 1 whitespace character. sed -e 's/[\ ]\ */\ /g' and this works. The fact is that I don't understand why the first one doesn't work. Can someone explain me that? This time you told sed replace 1 or more whitespace characters with 1 whitespace character. - -- /phil -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) Comment: Public Key: http://www.dyermaker.org/gpgkey iD8DBQFCgkw/Gbd/rBLcaFwRAtUqAKCu8C+iNH53011Lq3NGX680H/P4xwCdGUBZ e78WXTGi3RGpm3uoGFBv04I= =ZkNQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bash command substitution problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pollywog said: I have a function defined in my .bashrc as: function lf { /bin/ls -l | grep ^- ; } It prints the files in the CWD without listing other directories. Suppose I want to 'chmod 600' all the files in the CWD without affecting directories, I try this: chmod 600 `lf` but I get this error: chmod: invalid character `w' in mode string `-rw---' yeah, the ls -l listing is getting you when you display. try this one. function lsf { for i in *; do if [ -f $i ]; then echo $i fi; done; } lsf | xargs chmod 600 - -- /phil -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCfkd9Gbd/rBLcaFwRAgfQAKCBtJmVZNChY7s2FaUYr2mJEV3xPACgwiUz bgYxqBS+OoFekcHkXaDM8Sw= =lB4T -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
logrotate
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Been getting these emails from cron lately... running sarge. /etc/cron.daily/logrotate: /tmp/logrotate.qRrfw3: line 4: kill: (880) - No such process /tmp/logrotate.nnWbEs: line 4: kill: (880) - No such process any clues? - -- /phil -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCfmbeGbd/rBLcaFwRArFfAJ90MBIW2kD27rO2nHGNnljNEviHTQCfb1Fz pX+9OlSYgdOkY+0xmQgpjt0= =5XE8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Auto Disconnecting...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jerzy Wolowik said: telnet daemon: in.telnetd in /usr/sbin/ it's 0.17-18woody2 according to dpkg managed by inted and indirectly by tcpd daemon as stated in inetd.conf: [snip...] Watch out! Please, think at first of all that obvious things newbies always forget or don't know at all! Without giving you an answer as to why telnet is diconnecting.. my first response is turn off telnet. Forget that it exists. Throw it away. Use ssh2. - -- /phil -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) Comment: Public Key: http://www.dyermaker.org/gpgkey iD8DBQFCe2x5Gbd/rBLcaFwRAoVJAJ9lZfdjZvvh5Pk1nMpVjTxQXXIVDQCePlB0 OkxKLO/LEcKfT6vx2X0HzTw= =y1v8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Auto disconnecting time
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jerzy Wolowik said: Yeah, I've been doing so. But problem persists. OK, so if I've got this straight - you're having problems with not only telnet disconnecting, but also ssh? Do you have autolog installed? Anything in /var/log concerning the logout? - -- /phil -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) Comment: Public Key: http://www.dyermaker.org/gpgkey iD8DBQFCe4K7Gbd/rBLcaFwRArHeAKCr6ghr7NW20WjyjTd4T89lTi62mgCgsH4c Z9GofSdBSUBIpya6Y8t+488= =++2E -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to determine WAN IP address from behind a NAT router?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A.Melon said: I searched for information on this and found only solutions by parsing the output of websites that display the HTTP REMOTE_ADDR. But I don't want to rely on an external website. I know there must be a way to do this because Gnutella-type programs (client) display my outside IP address. How do they do it? they rely on an external site. :) 1) use dyndns.org client on your linux box and then never have to worry what your ip is. 2) You could use www.whatismyip.com and grep and sed for the ip. I guess that site is pretty reliable.. not very elegant, but this should work. wget www.whatismyip.com -o /dev/null \ grep 'displaycopy' index.html | \ sed s/displaycopy('\([0-9]*\.[0-9]*\.[0-9]*\.[0-9]*\).*/\1/ - -- /phil -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCeq2ZGbd/rBLcaFwRAvSNAKCFs/qoCqcHcZ4s1tKUOdRkwvW4zgCffGP9 uyABQYdMC7TqwR3eFts5Xtg= =gzn/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge apt and init daemons
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Miquel van Smoorenburg said: OK, although both solutions work, (I guess - I haven't tried the second solution) it still seems kludgy to me. If I use the debian supplied tool to remove a service from startup _totally_, and I use a debian supplied tool to update the system, shouldn't the latter honor my current config? Nope. Because that is not how it works or has ever worked. Your expectation is skewed from reality (sorry). Hate to keep beating this. But my response is: Just because it's not how it's ever worked doesn't mean it's right. Can you give me reasoning as to *why* it works like that? Any docs you can point me to on this? My expectation, I guess, comes from other systems, like redhat, that won't turn on a service during an upgrade. Of course that was not perfect either, as I don't think up2date would restart the services you *were* running. I don't think I should have to remeber to chmod this or fake out that. I have no problems doing either, it just seems odd that the best system update tool available can check to see if my conf files have been modified and let me choose whether to overwrite, but it doesn't check to see how I've configured services. It does. It does... what? If it checked to see if I've turned off a service and prompted me for action, then I don't think I would have started this thread. :) Again, I'd just like some reasoning on this. - -- /phil -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) Comment: Public Key: http://www.dyermaker.org/gpgkey iD8DBQFCeNNDGbd/rBLcaFwRAjTuAJ4pemYUBbKWHMpr2HOta5HBrD7pfACfRTHJ KY03OhAngJWTD7fbH14JKWA= =lejg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge apt and init daemons
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Hasler said: It won't restart the service if you have left at least one K link in place. Debian provides several tools for turning services on and off. My favorite is sysvconfig (since I wrote it). thanks, John. I'm checking out sysvconfig now. - -- /phil -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) Comment: Public Key: http://www.dyermaker.org/gpgkey iD8DBQFCePwUGbd/rBLcaFwRAs5KAJ9/mZEW3PMqwieADroByFn3WD+9/wCfSbnk /JvrkJB2Wm0uv4gyXmoDRoI= =8QSx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge apt and init daemons
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Miquel van Smoorenburg said: If you want to keep updates from starting the daemon, just chmod 644 it. That sounds reasonable...and simple. :) thanks. Reasonable, simple, and wrong :) As long as one start or stop link is still present, update-rc.d will not change the configuration. So just remove all start/stop links except in, say, runlevel 5 or so. Since the default runlevel is 2, the service will not be started ever. OK, although both solutions work, (I guess - I haven't tried the second solution) it still seems kludgy to me. If I use the debian supplied tool to remove a service from startup _totally_, and I use a debian supplied tool to update the system, shouldn't the latter honor my current config? I don't think I should have to remeber to chmod this or fake out that. I have no problems doing either, it just seems odd that the best system update tool available can check to see if my conf files have been modified and let me choose whether to overwrite, but it doesn't check to see how I've configured services. - -- /phil -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCdtxZGbd/rBLcaFwRAjvyAJ9NXXuX3nLJD6PUsXYXMBX8lMin6ACfR+9u 7Xi1JV5IJdVNqiWwsDn6k6E= =f3dP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Potential Virus or System Message?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Faithful John: I got this weird message, when I left my email through Telnet/Pine running when I left my house. I'd say someone got in, and they got in far enough to shutdown the machine, which generally means root. Time to reinstall. Next time, go through the ps fax list, and anything that shouldn't be running, disable it. Uh, I'd say he had a telnet session opened to a remote host, and that remote host shutdown. Doesn't have anything to do with his box. - -- /phil -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCdQFyGbd/rBLcaFwRAqw7AKCpH+/ipvHSIYX7KFoFuCnS07qeqgCgm1gp 0HF56fT8ydISuY9jalXq91U= =ZI+A -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Potential Virus or System Message?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Faithful John said: So this gives me a second question. I'm pretty sure that I disabled the remote access ability stuff (though I'm not 100% on that at this moment). Is there a chance someone could still get into my system in any way and do anything? (e.g.if firewalls disabled) My impression was that linux was immune to viruses and resistance to personal attacks since you needed a root password to do any sort of real changes. more complicated than they need root to get me. escalation of privileges, where a user gets onto your box via some sort of non-root user thru apache, ssh or whatever and then gains root via some local program that is vulnerable. You should run a portscan on yourself with nmap or similar. If you don't have access to another box, you can go to somewhere like dshield.org and run a portscan. Always good to do when setting up a new box. good learning when you get to say what in the heck is that port open for? - -- /phil -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCdV0KGbd/rBLcaFwRAjM3AKCFEADz5GwK2j7u7O2773Z/HHgSkQCgqP6n pknLL8zBFzsIdyie5hlmaEs= =6JVa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
unable to start X after upgrade to potato
Peter Mickle wrote: I have recently upgraded to potato, and after doing so, I can no longer open an X session, either from xdm or from startx. The version is 3.3.6-6. At boot time, the last two lines of the messages generated by the boot process are: Checking for valid XFree86 Server configuration...unable to check Not starting X display manager If I try to start with startx, I get the following message: XSession: unable to start X sessions: no /path/.xsession found, no window managers, and no terminal emulators found. I have rerun xf86config. I have looked over all the related problems which have shown up on this list over the last week or so, and none of the fixes to other problems work for me. I'm lost or stuck, and I need X for my work, so any help will be appreciated. Thanks, Peter Peter Mickle Peter, I bet you are running kdm, right? Some changes were made to Xfree 3.3.6, including the removal of parse-xf86config. /etc/rc.d/kdm calls parse-xf86config, but since it no longer exists, the script exits with the error, Can't check config or whatever. I just removed the offending line from the kdm script. Works for me. As far as the startx problem, potato has changed how it handles window mangers, look at update-alternatives to register your window manager. That _may_ be your problem. You did do a dist-upgrade, right? dyer
Re: Woody: missing parse-xf86config? /etc/init.d.xdm wants it!
Brian Boonstra wrote: Hi Something blew away a program called parse-xf86config this weekend. I suspect it was when I did my apt-get upgrade. This is a problem because /etc/init.d/xdm won't run properly without it. Any clues as to how I can get it back? - Brian Yeah, I noticed that too. It seems that parse-xf86config has been removed from xserver-common (and removed altogether). My kdm init script was complaining. I just changed the kde.config(?) file to not check for or parse an XF86Config file. Probably not the best solution, but it works. Maybe Brandon will respond and tell us what the future is for this. dyer
Re: help with linux
jd wrote: hello im hoping you can help me im trying to down load linux and i dont no where to start i know you probly have better things to do than to help linux dummies but if you can give me any help i would be thankfull james ward email [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think the easiest way to get going is to buy a cd. Look on www.debian.org for cd distributers. They only cost a few bucks. Long downloads over slow lines can be a nightmare. Also look around debian's site... lots of good documentation, links, etc. hth dyer
Re: Getting mail and browsing the web
Walter Logeman wrote: Web I have Lynx running but hitting the red urls does not work unless the file is local. Is it just a matter of configuring a file somewhere? Walter Walter, It sounds like you don't have dns servers set up. Find out your ISP's DNS servers address(es). As root, edit /etc/resolv.conf The format follows: nameserver 127.0.0.1 # This identifies your machine locally. nameserver 198.xxx.xxx.xxx # This is your ISP's DNS server ip address nameserver 198.xxx.xxx.xxx # ISP's backup DNS server. Now as others have sugested, use ping and see if you can ping by name like this: ping www.debian.org see if you get a reply. HTH -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= dyer[EMAIL PROTECTED] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: GNOME packages for slink
Marcin Owsiany wrote: Hi, Does anybody remember the URL to those unofficial GNOME packages for slink? they were released some two months ago, i believe... Marcin http://www.debian.org/~jim/debian-gtk-gnome/gnome-stage-slink/ or if you're using apt: deb http://www.debian.org/~jim/debian-gtk-gnome/gnome-stage-slink slink main HTH -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= dyer[EMAIL PROTECTED] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: Initial thoughts about Debian 2.1 (and I need some help!)
Salman Ahmed wrote: (5) Initially, I tried to get the .debs for XFree86-3.3.3.1-2 from the following site : ftp.netgod.net. Upon instructions from another Debian user, who has been kind enough to offer email support during my installation nightmare (Hi Kris!), I added the following line to the end of /etc/apt/sources.list : deb http://ftp.netgod.net/debian x/ I think the correct line for the slink debs is: deb http://www.netgod.net x/ or deb ftp://ftp.netgod.net x/ (notice no '/debian')^ HTH dyer
Re: Corel Wordperfect nightmare
Paul wrote: First I was told that I didn`t have libm.so.5 so the graphical Installer wouldn`t work, then a load of error messages saying wp.No such file or directory Finally it askes me for an installation directory so I type in /usr or /home and it says invalid directory and quits. I assume that the first message means I have to install libc5? Will this bugger up anything else? Yes, you need libc5. You can get it from the oldlibs/ directory. It won't bugger ya' up. you may as well get xpm4.7 while you're there. Start from there and see if that takes care of the rest of the problems. -- dyer
Re: No KDE/GNOME for stable?
Carl Fink wrote: Is there a way to try KDE/GNOME on stable that I'm missing? I did some fairly extensive searches via www.debian.org's package search engine. I should specify that I want a reasonably new release of either, not the alpha GNOME in stable. Doing a search on the archives of: KDE; slink yielded me this for my first result. ;-) --snip-- add one of these lines to /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://snowcrash.tdyc.com potato kde contrib rkrusty if you're running unstable or deb http://snowcrash.tdyc.com slink kde contrib rkrusty if you're running stable (Debian 2.1) --snip-- I'm running KDE 1.1.1 on slink and loving it! -- dyer
Re: hamm dist sites
Robert Rati wrote: Are there any ftp sites with the hamm dist still on them? All ther ones I've found only have slink and potato. Thanks. Rob http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/dists/ ftp://debian.midco.net/debian-archive/dists/ HTH -- dyer
wmaker-gnome crashes with netscape mail
Can anybody else confirm? WindowMaker .53 will crash if you have the messenger window open (not minimized) in Netscape 4.6 and get a new email -- dyer
Re: HELP please !
Wolfgang Fink wrote: Hi everybody, so please, can anybody help me to unsubscribe from this mailing-list ? I have tryed almost everything with my Netscape 4.5 - Browser und Mailtool. Thanks a lot, Wolfgang read here. http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe -- + | CLASS GmbHTelefon: 08151 - 991 261 | PROJECTS Telefax: 08151 - 991 259 | Wolfgang Fink Mobil: 0172 - 8207645 | Moosstrasse 7 eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 82319 Starnberg Homepage: http://www.wfink.de | Member of TEAMSTAROFFICE: http://www.teamstaroffice.org + -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: configuring modem, installing netscape communicator
Daniel Kahraman wrote: Hello All: How do I install my modem? I think it is already installed. So the question becomes how do I set up the dial-up configuration (manually) for my local ISP? Dan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Dan, run pppconfig. ( I assume you are using at least hamm...) This will walk you thru a ppp setup. You need to know what device your modem is attached to, in Windows com1 is ttyS0, com2 ttyS1, ... Then you can run pon and poff to connect/disconnect. HTH dyer
Re: magic cookie error
Pollywog wrote: I am getting this MAGIC COOKIE error when I try to run some X stuff as root. Is there something I can add to my profile in order to avoid it? Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key ktail: cannot connect to X server :0.0 thanks -- Andrew -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/nullman man xhost
Re: libsvga
On Wed, Nov 18, 1998 at 12:01:06AM -0500, Phil Dyer wrote: Hi all, Trying to upgrade to svgalibg1.0.3 or dummy but dpkg won't let me replace the current svgalib. Just trying to install gs, ghostview. How do I get around this? thanks, dyer more info needed - what's the error message and how are you trying to upgrade? Adrian Adrian, Thanks for the reply. I got it now. I got apt-get working correctly and it washed all my worries away. ;-) dyer
libsvga
Hi all, Trying to upgrade to svgalibg1.0.3 or dummy but dpkg won't let me replace the current svgalib. Just trying to install gs, ghostview. How do I get around this? thanks, dyer
RE: chatscript permissions (fixed)
Since I upgraded to hamm, only root is allowed to run pon. /var/log/ppp.log reports that my user logon does'nt have permission to open /etc/chatscripts/provider. --open /etc/chatscripts/provider failed :access denied. All users have read perm. What file is holding it back? The users must also have execute permission on /etc/chatscript. This a known bug in the ppp package. -- That's it, just had to give execute to /etc/chatscripts. Thanks. -- Phil Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ We should be careful to get out of an experience only the wisdom that is in it-- and stay there, lest we be like the cat that sits down on a hot stove-lid. She will never sit down on a hot stove-lid again-- and that is well; but also she will never sit down on a cold one anymore. Mark Twain, Following the Equator __
chatscript permissions
Since I upgraded to hamm, only root is allowed to run pon. /var/log/ppp.log reports that my user logon does'nt have permission to open /etc/chatscripts/provider. --open /etc/chatscripts/provider failed :access denied. All users have read perm. What file is holding it back? thanx, Phil Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ We should be careful to get out of an experience only the wisdom that is in it-- and stay there, lest we be like the cat that sits down on a hot stove-lid. She will never sit down on a hot stove-lid again-- and that is well; but also she will never sit down on a cold one anymore. Mark Twain, Following the Equator __
hamm and login question
Just upgraded to hamm, and now when I login I get:Unknown item 'ISSUE_FILE_ENAB'this comes after login prompt and before passwd prompt. /etc/login.defs is set to ISSUE_FILE_ENAB no What's the deeeal with that? thanks, -- Phil Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ We should be careful to get out of an experience only the wisdom that is in it-- and stay there, lest we be like the cat that sits down on a hot stove-lid. She will never sit down on a hot stove-lid again-- and that is well; but also she will never sit down on a cold one anymore. Mark Twain, Following the Equator __ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
hamm upgrade/c++ libraries
I upgraded to hamm yesterday and have run into a problem. I used autoup.sh with an ftp connection to get the required packages. Now I cannot compile c++ code, as it cannot find the libs. (iostream.h, fstream.h, string, list, etc). Doing a locate says they are nowhere on the system. Is there a package that I missed? I'm using kernel 2.0.33. Thanks, -- Phil Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ We should be careful to get out of an experience only the wisdom that is in it-- and stay there, lest we be like the cat that sits down on a hot stove-lid. She will never sit down on a hot stove-lid again-- and that is well; but also she will never sit down on a cold one anymore. Mark Twain, Following the Equator __ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
default color depth
How do I append XF86Config to get a startx default of 16? I know it's gotta be in the display section, but where and how? thanks, -- Phil Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ We should be careful to get out of an experience only the wisdom that is in it-- and stay there, lest we be like the cat that sits down on a hot stove-lid. She will never sit down on a hot stove-lid again-- and that is well; but also she will never sit down on a cold one anymore. Mark Twain, Following the Equator __ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: printcap for bjc4000
Bob Nielsen wrote: Check the filter. Since magicfilter doesn't support the bjc600, I had to choose another printer and then edit the sDEVICE= line(s) in the filter to specify the bjc600 gs driver. It works fine for my MPC2500, which prints like a bjc4000. Bob Got it.I ran magicfilterconfig and chose the bj200. Then edited as you said, everything is hunky-dory now. thanks all, Phil Dyer On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, dyer wrote: Rich Sahlender wrote: Could someone tell me how to setup my printcap for a bjc4000 printer. I'm a newbie, so please be gentle. I need to be able to print ghostscript files. I use a bjc600 as follows: In /etc/printcap : lp:\ :lp=/dev/lp1:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp1:\ :if=/etc/filter.bjc600:\ :af=/var/log/lp-acct:\ :lf=/var/log/lp-errs:\ :mx#0:\ :sh: And in /etc/filter.bjc600 : #!/bin/sh /usr/bin/gs -q \ -sDEVICE=bjc600 \ -r360x360 \ -sPAPERSIZE=letter \ -dNOPAUSE \ -dSAFER \ -sOutputFile=- - I suspect this should also work for a 4000, assuming it's a /dev/lp1... Regards, Rich -- Richard A Sahlender JrConsultantRoom # Lucent TechnologiesBell Laboratories2R-264 1247 South Cedar Crest Boulevard, Allentown, Pennsylvania 18103-6209 VOICE: 610-712-2303 FAX: 610-712-2773 EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Rich,Thanks for the reply. Still having probs. It seems like it should work, (doesn't it always?) but I'm still getting garbage while printing gs. ASCII works, and even the top of the .ps file prints some legible chars. %!PS - Adobe-2.0 %%Creator: blah, blah %%Title: ..blah and a few more lines then, %%BeginProcSet: tex.pro then a bunch of garbage. Anybody got some insight? thanks, Phil Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen/ -- Phil Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ We should be careful to get out of an experience only the wisdom that is in it-- and stay there, lest we be like the cat that sits down on a hot stove-lid. She will never sit down on a hot stove-lid again-- and that is well; but also she will never sit down on a cold one anymore. Mark Twain, Following the Equator __ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]