getmail problem

2023-07-13 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

hi,

the problem with getmail is that it ignores my .getmailrc file:
it is configured with gmail:

server = imap.gmail.com
...
poll imap.gmail.com with proto IMAP auth password

but the getmail command gives:
    SimpleIMAPRetriever:p.frenk...@imap.laposte.net:143:

   getmailrc: credential/login error (LOGIN command error: BAD 
[b'invalid command'])


( my config is  in ~.getmailrc and .getmail/getmailrc )

has anybody an explanation?

best regards

Pierre Frenkiel




Re: questions about cron.daily

2023-04-06 Thread Pierre Frenkiel



crontab -l

Pierre Frenkiel

On Thu, 6 Apr 2023, Fred wrote:


On 4/6/23 08:33, Andy Smith wrote:

Hello,

On Thu, Apr 06, 2023 at 07:33:26PM +0800, cor...@free.fr wrote:

For scripts put under /etc/cron.daily, which special time will they be
implemented?


Greg already showed you how to check this on your own systems.

If you need something to run daily but at a specific time, consider
instead either creating a custom cron job in /etc/cron.d/ (or a
user's crontab) or else using a systemd timer.


I found some services like apache2, chkrootkit will put the scripts in
this dir automatically. are they for system cleaning purpose?


The purpose of cron.daily is literally to run scripts daily for
*whatever purpose each script has*. If you have questions about what
a specific script does, try looking at it, as it's just an
executable script (usually sh or bash). If you're still confused
then ask a specific question about a specific script.

Cheers,
Andy

I also would like to know when cron.daily scripts run.  Greg's command does 
not appear to reveal the time for that script.  I ran Greg's command and got 
the same result.


Best regards,
Fred





Re: debian 11 - créer une "desktop icon"... simplement

2023-03-05 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

le  window manager twm permet de faire des tas de chose interessantes, et en 
particulier d'utiliser des icones
pour appeler un programme
Cordialement.
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: Comment éviter la saisie de longs chemins avec /bin/bash ?

2023-03-02 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

bonjour Olivier,
pour la completion, les 2 methodes suivantes marchent pour moi:
set -o vi
ou
set -o emacs
ensuite, je fais,par exemple: 
cd .alsa

et cela complete en
cd .alsaplayer
avec:
cd .al
il me propose .alpine et .alsaplayer
et je peux choisir en ajoutant une lettre (p ous)

Cordialement
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: colorscheme in vi

2022-12-23 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Fri, 23 Dec 2022, Curt wrote:


On 2022-12-23, Nate Bargmann  wrote:



Because there is no colorscheme named "white" in Debian's
vim. The colorschemes are in /usr/share/vim/vim82/colors


The problem as I see it is that he wants reverse colors in 'vi' but
edited '.vimrc'.  Historically those are two different programs but the
Debian alternatives eventually points 'vi' to 'vim.basic'.  I would
presume that a setting that works in historic 'vi' might not be
supported by 'vim.basic'.


You'd think it would be more a question of the terminal.


- Nate

for me,  the colorschemes are in /usr/share/vim/vim90/colors,
but it's difficult to make more confusing:
if I put in .vimrc "colorscheme white" or any unknown color (qwert for example)
I get a message "cannot find colorscheme xxx", but I have  black on white
characters with vim.
if I put a known color (blue for example), I have no message, but I get
white on black characters.
to get rid of the message, I replaced the vi binary by a script where
stderr is redirected to /dev/null



Re: xscreensaver problem

2022-12-23 Thread Pierre Frenkiel



Pierre Frenkiel

On Thu, 22 Dec 2022, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:


I have now a big problem with xscreensaver.
Up to yesterday, it worked perfectly, but I had to re-install Debian
on my PC, and now if fails
when I run "xscreensaver" I get:
   xscreensaver-systemd: 13:59:54: user bus connection failed: No medium 
found

If I run "xscreensaver-demo", I get "Segmentation fault"
I was unable to find what changes from my previous install to the new one
can explain that.
Has anybody an idea?
best regards,

Pierre Frenkiel


I found a good work around: instead of calling xscreensaver, I call
one on the binaries provided with the program: scooter
and that works perfectly
I'm just curious to understand why the xscreensaver itself no more works...

Re: colorscheme in vi

2022-12-23 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Fri, 23 Dec 2022, Max Nikulin wrote:


On 23/12/2022 18:36, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

I wanted to open vi with a white background and a black fg
to do that,


Do you mean graphical gvim window or vim running in a terminal? In the latter 
case which one and should vim follow terminal background? Is tmux or screen 
involved?


Besides colorscheme there is another setting
   :set background=dark
or
   :set background=light
I do not remember if proper value is reliably chosen during startup e.g. for 
terminal applications setting TERM=xterm-256color


Finally, if
   colorscheme white
works despite the warning, what happens if you commented out or removing this 
line?


hi, 
thank you for your post,

At last I actually did that, i.e. I replaced the vi binary by a script
which redirects stderr to /dev/null, and that works perfectly
best regards,
Pierre Frenkiel



colorscheme in vi

2022-12-23 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

hi,
I wanted to open vi with a white background and a black fg
to do that, I put in my .vimrc, as recommended, a line
colorscheme white
that worked, except that each time I open vim, I get the message:
   cannot find color scheme 'white'
I don't worry, but is there a way to get rid of that warning?
best regards

Pierre Frenkiel



xscreensaver problem

2022-12-22 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

I have now a big problem with xscreensaver.
Up to yesterday, it worked perfectly, but I had to re-install Debian
on my PC, and now if fails
when I run "xscreensaver" I get:
   xscreensaver-systemd: 13:59:54: user bus connection failed: No 
medium found

If I run "xscreensaver-demo", I get "Segmentation fault"
I was unable to find what changes from my previous install to the new one
can explain that.
Has anybody an idea?
best regards,

Pierre Frenkiel



xscreensaver problem

2022-12-22 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

I have now a big problem with xscreensaver.
Up to yesterday, it worked perfectly, but I had to re-install Debian
on my PC, and now if fails
when I run "xscreensaver" I get:
   xscreensaver-systemd: 13:59:54: user bus connection failed: No 
medium found

If I run "xscreensaver-demo", I get "Segmentation fault"
I was unable to find what changes from my previous install to the new one
can explain that.
Has anybody an idea?
best regards,

Pierre Frenkiel



xscreensaver problem

2022-12-22 Thread Pierre Frenkiel



hi,
I have now a big problem with xscreensaver.
Up to yesterday, it worked perfectly, but I had to re-install Debian
on my PC, and now if fails
when I run "xscreensaver" I get:
   xscreensaver-systemd: 13:59:54: user bus connection failed: No medium found
If I run "xscreensaver-demo", I get "Segmentation fault"
I was unable to find what changes from my previous install to the new one
can explain that.
Has anybody an idea?
best regards,

Pierre Frenkiel



pourquoi systemd démarre 4 fois le même service (mon sync-periodically)

2022-11-17 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

bonjour,

est-il vraiment indispensable d'utiliser une telle usine a gaz, alors

qu'avec un script comme
   while :
   do
  sleep 1
  sync
   done
on ne perd qu'une seconde de travail
   ou sleep 10 si l'on accepte de perdre 10 secondes de travail
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: Firefox plante régulièrement

2022-11-16 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
vous avez mille fois raison: je pensais au mail, mais il est independant 
du navigateur. Ceci dit, j'utilise chromium comme navigateur, et il 
fonctionne parfaitement.


Pierre Frenkiel

On Wed, 16 Nov 2022, ajh-valmer wrote:


On Tuesday 15 November 2022 21:33:23 Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

thunderbird, c'est nettement plus fiable.


Thunderbird ne semble pas être un navigateur...
(plutôt un MUA).


Re: Firefox plante régulièrement

2022-11-15 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

thunderbird, c'est nettement plus fiable.

Pierre Frenkiel



Re: debian freezing

2022-10-17 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

hi,
I wrote some days ago that runing e screensaver doesn't give any 
improvment, but now I see that I was wrong: since I lauch xscreensaver, 
I never got  any freezing.

thanks everybody for your cooperation.
Best regards,
Pierre Frenkiel

On Mon, 17 Oct 2022, The Wanderer wrote:


On 2022-10-17 at 07:05, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:


Since I installed Debian11, it happens from time to time (generally
when I leave the system unattended), that everything freezes:

keyboard and mouse.


Do the lights stay on (frozen), or do they go out? Meaning the NumLock /
CapsLock / ScrollLock lights on the keyboard, and the laser underneath
your mouse (assuming you don't have an old-style ball mouse, or a
trackball, or similar).


I found on several blogs some silly recommendations, involving typing
something. I say "silly" because in that case in I can't do
anything:

neither with the keyboard nor the mouse


At a guess, this "something" might involve the so-called magic SysRq
key?


when I say "frozen" it means "frozen" (may-be "dead" would be a
better word, as the computer doesn't answer to ping)

and the only thing I can do is reboot, being after that obliged to
re-install.


Wait, reinstall? This was sounding a bit like a state I've managed to
get the system into at various times in the past, where everything's
wedged hard (the lights remain but won't toggle, for example), and a
hard power-cycle was necessary to get out of it - but I was always able
to boot back up and run the system normally afterwards; no reinstall was
required.

What is it you observe which leads you to conclude that a reinstall is
needed at this point?


I tried running the screensaver,but the problem remained.

Has anybody a solution?


Not with that little information. The only things I can suggest would be
to find ways of getting more information.

Depending on how the system is configured, there might be copies of the
logs from before the freeze left even after new logs are begun when you
boot up again. Some of them (from X-related logs to the ones holding
dmesg or similar) may be relevant, if you can find them.

If the boot process does wind up blowing away those logs, you may still
be able to get access to them by booting to a live-media environment and
looking at the hard drive from there.

Failing that, you may be able to get some information out by setting up
a process to dump the contents of those logs to another location every
so often in a loop, waiting for the problem to reproduce, and then
checking that location after the next boot.

However, if the problem happens abruptly enough and is a hard-enough
freeze that there's no time for anything to get logged (never mind for
anything to be copied from the logs to another location) before all
processing effectively halts, none of those are likely to help you.

--
  The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw






debian freezing

2022-10-17 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
Since I installed Debian11, it happens from time to time (generally when 
I leave the system unattended), that everything freezes:


keyboard and mouse.

I found on several blogs some silly recommendations, involving typing 
something. I say "silly" because in that case in I can't do anything:


neither with the keyboard nor the mouse

when I say "frozen" it means "frozen" (may-be "dead" would be a better 
word, as the computer doesn't answer to ping)


and the only thing I can do is reboot, being after that obliged to 
re-install.


I tried running the screensaver,but the problem remained.

Has anybody a solution?

Thanks in advance

Best regards

Pierre Frenkiel



search in onqueror

2022-09-13 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

hi,

Forget my previous mail, I found the answer:

in Konqueror, the search is done with F




about Konqueror

2022-09-13 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

hi,

how can I search an item in the Konqueror window on Debian?
I tried with / and F3, but that didn't work
best regards



Re: Re : Adaptateur VGA/HDMI

2022-07-30 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

Bonjour,
plusieurs utilisateurs (dont moi) ont déjà signalé que d'est du hard, et 
donc totalement endépendant de l'OS

Cordialement,
Pierre Frenkiel

On Sat, 30 Jul 2022, benoit wrote:


Bonjour,


J'ai acheté ça et ça fonctionne sous Linux
https://www.shscomputer.be/fr/product/53617/convertisseur-hdmi-male-vers-vga-femelle-68793-cab-a-6-1-3.html

C'est bien ça ?
https://www.shscomputer.be/_images/icecat/eshop/4040849687938/1.jpg



--- Original Message ---
Le samedi 30 juillet 2022 à 08:29, Alex PADOLY  a 
écrit :

  Bonjour à tous,


  Dans nos salles de travail, ils nous ont installé des vidéoprojecteurs 
courte-focale, mais avec une prise HDMI.

  J'ai donc le choix entre acheter un nouvel ordinateur portable avec une 
prise HDMI ou utiliser un adaptateur VGA/HDMI de qualité qui fonctionne sous
  Linux.


  J'ai trouvé un produit (voir lien ci-dessous) :

https://www.inmac-wstore.com/startech-com-adaptateur-vga-vers-hdmi-avec-audio-usb-et-alimentation-usb-convertisseur-portable-vga-vers-hdmi-m-f-1080p-blanc-cable-adap
  tateur-hdmi-vga-audio-usb-26-cm/p2808787.htm


  Par contre, aucune information du fabricant concernant le fonctionnement 
sous Linux.

  Merci pour vos conseils.

  Bon week-end !

  Alex





Re: Adaptateur VGA/HDMI

2022-07-30 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

bonjour,
Il me semble que c'est du hard, donc indépendat de l'OS

Pierre Frenkiel

On Sat, 30 Jul 2022, Alex PADOLY wrote:



Bonjour à tous,


Dans nos salles de travail, ils nous ont installé des vidéoprojecteurs 
courte-focale, mais avec une prise HDMI.

J'ai donc le choix entre acheter un nouvel ordinateur portable avec une prise 
HDMI ou utiliser un adaptateur VGA/HDMI de qualité qui fonctionne sous Linux.


J'ai trouvé un produit (voir lien ci-dessous) :

https://www.inmac-wstore.com/startech-com-adaptateur-vga-vers-hdmi-avec-audio-usb-et-alimentation-usb-convertisseur-portable-vga-vers-hdmi-m-f-1080p-blanc-cable-adap
tateur-hdmi-vga-audio-usb-26-cm/p2808787.htm


Par contre, aucune information du fabricant concernant le fonctionnement sous 
Linux.

Merci pour vos conseils.

Bon week-end !

Alex




Re: taille des fontes dans alpine

2022-02-03 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Wed, 2 Feb 2022, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:


Je cherche un moyen d'augmenter la taille de la fonte utilisée dans alpine.


  J'ai trouvé la solution: ajouter "-fn 10x20" dans l'appel à xterm

Cordialement,
--
Pierre Frenkiel

Re: alpine font size

2022-02-03 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Wed, 2 Feb 2022, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:


hi,
I'm looking for a way to increase the font size in alpine (Debian buster).
I was unable to find an answer with google...


   I found the answer: just add "-fn 10x20" to the xterm call

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



taille des fontes dans alpine

2022-02-02 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

bonjour,
Je cherche un moyen d'augmneter la taille de la fonte utilisée dans alpine.
Google n ema rien donné.. et vous?

Cordialement,
--
Pierre Frenkiel

Re: can't run fvwm

2022-02-02 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Sun, 23 Jan 2022, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

PS: fvwm suggests using "-replace", but it is useless, as it just gives you a 
new login window


I tried again, and now -replace works.






keyboard problem

2021-12-21 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

hi,
I have the following problem with my desktop keyboard layout
I tried to set a US layout, using the debian 'dpkg reconfigure'
, and that works for graphic applications, like 
firefox, but. not in text  terminalt for example,
hash I get # insttead of the verical bar. 
has anybody on idea on how to fix that?

beat regards
Pierre Frenkiel



dead lock

2021-10-14 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

hi
After  a Debian install on my amd64 laptop, I'm faced to what looks like
a beautiful dead lock:
I wanted to set a root account, but that was refused because I'm not
in /etc/sudoers, and to put me in this file, I need root privilege!
I suppose that there is a solution, but I couldn't find it.
Any idea?

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



runlevel

2021-10-12 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

hi,
I found today that my runlevel is set to 5, but I have no idea where it
comes from.
in /etc/inittab, it is set to 2, but I saw that this file is no more used.
So, can anybody tell where it is set?

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



network problem (fwd)

2021-10-06 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

please note that the main problem is
  "why the /etc/network/interfaces" is not used?"

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel--- Begin Message ---


hi,
I have the following problem on my laptop.
my /etc/network/interfaces file contains:
   auto enp0s1
   iface enp0s1  inet static
   address 192.168.1.10
   netmask 255.255.255.0
   gateway 192.168.1.1

   but after boot, ifconfig gives

   address 192.168.0.163
   netmask 255.255.255.0
   gateway 192.168.1.1

   Then, networking works i.e. I can reach Internet, but of course
   not my desktop and other devices 192.168.1.xx

   I looked on the entire disk to find where this address 192.168.0.163
   is hidden, but I was unable to find it !

   rather strange, isn't it?

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel
--- End Message ---


network problem

2021-10-05 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

hi,
I have the following problem on my laptop.
my /etc/network/interfaces file contains:
   auto enp0s1
   iface enp0s1  inet static
   address 192.168.1.10
   netmask 255.255.255.0
   gateway 192.168.1.1

   but after boot, ifconfig gives

   address 192.168.0.163
   netmask 255.255.255.0
   gateway 192.168.1.1

   Then, networking works i.e. I can reach Internet, but of course
   not my desktop and other devices 192.168.1.xx

   I looked on the entire disk to find where this address 192.168.0.163
   is hidden, but I was unable to find it !

   rather strange, isn't it?

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



enscript problem

2021-05-29 Thread Pierre Frenkiel



hi,
I have the following problem with enscript:
I do "enscript --i $MARGIN. "
but whatever I put in MARGIN (10::: ,  10.:::) I get the error message
enscript: malformed float dimension: 
google gave me nothing useful

what am I supposed to put?

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



how to indent when printinng a ps file

2021-03-24 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

hi,
I'm fighting with the following stupid problem:
I want to indent when printing a ps file.
For a text file, it's easy with the "lpr -o page-left option, but
it doesn't for a ps file. Google didn't help for that.
Has anybody a solution?

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: recette de cuisine à corriger

2021-03-03 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Wed, 3 Mar 2021, Jean Bernon wrote:


dans un fichier texte et je souhaiterai le remettre
en forme de telle façon que les quantités soient
en face des ingrédients ...


   un simple fichier texte est bien suffisant. Exemple, pour la recette
   du Bloody Mary (les  sont bien sur à remplacer par des vrais TABs

vodka4 cl

jus de tomate 7 cl

jus de citron 1 cl

Sauce Worcester 1 cl

sel de celeri 1 pincee

Tabasco 1 trait


Re: need to reinstall pulseaudio every day

2021-03-03 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Wed, 3 Mar 2021, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:


Pierre this is why I raised our true stochastic quantum natures  You might
walk thru a wall tonight too. It just isn't very likely


are you suggesting that by monitoring  pulseaudio, I reduce the wave packet,
like opening the cat's door?

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: need to reinstall pulseaudio every day

2021-03-03 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Wed, 3 Mar 2021, Greg Wooledge wrote:


OK, it's good that we can rule out some of the possible causes, like
"permissions are wrong on /usr/bin" or "there's a cron job that
deletes it every week".  We're still left with a mystery, but it's
slightly smaller now.


 actually, it's still a mystery, as I changed nothing in my configuration and 
pulseaudio
 no more disapears!

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: need to reinstall pulseaudio every day

2021-03-03 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Mon, 1 Mar 2021, Greg Wooledge wrote:


ls -ld / /usr /usr/bin /usr/bin/pulseaudio


   drwxr-xr-x 39 root root  4096 Jul 13  2019 /
   drwxr-xr-x 12 root root  4096 Jul  7  2017 /usr
   drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 86016 Jul  7  2017 /usr/bin
   -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 95688 Aug 15  2019 /usr/bin/pulseaudio


sudo grep -ri pulse /etc/crontab /etc/cron.* /var/spool/cron


   /var/spool/cron/crontabs/frenkiel:# 0-59/1 * * * * pulse-check >> 
~frenkiel/log/pulse 2>&1


find /lib/systemd /var/lib/systemd /etc/systemd -name '*.timer' \
 -exec grep -i pulse /dev/null {} +


grep: /etc/systemd/system/timers.target.wants/phpsessionclean.timer: No such 
file or directory


If you can think of any other places from which an automatic or timed job
might run and do *ANYTHING AT ALL* involving pulseaudio, investigate it.
And then tell us what it was, how you investigated it, and what you
learned.


  I found no other places involving pulseaudio.

  Anyway, it didn't disapear since several days ...

thanks for tour help.
best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: lpoptions

2021-03-02 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Tue, 2 Mar 2021, Klaus Singvogel wrote:


Hi,

I think you forgot the printer name (destination).


  Actually, one doesn't need "lpoptions", as a command like

  lpr -o page-left=50 -o page-top=50  tst

  works perfectly

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



lpoptions

2021-03-02 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

hi,
trying to configure the lpr output, I found that on the linuxquestions site:

 lpoptions -o page-left=40 -o page-right=20 -o page-top=40 -o page-bottom=10

but it doesn't work.
can anybody tell me how to make it to work?
thanks in advance.

best regards,

--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: need to reinstall pulseaudio every day

2021-03-01 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Sun, 28 Feb 2021, mick crane wrote:


That is a bit weird. Is it an actual file and not a link ?


 it's a file. Since I re-enabled my monitoring, it didn't disappear.
 wait and see...

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: need to reinstall pulseaudio every day

2021-02-28 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Tue, 23 Feb 2021, David Wright wrote:


Is this buster?

  yes


Are you running any applications, particularly those involving sound,
as root, particularly in response to some previous problem?

  no


Is it just that binary that goes missing, or does apt/dpkg actually
show that the entire package is uninstalled?

The pulseaudio package contains about 216 files. Have they all gone,
or just the one binary? (Run   $ dpkg -L pulseaudio   to list them.)


  I can answer today, as /usr/bin/pulseaudio was not there this morning:
  It's the only missing files. All  other files of the package are still there.
  I'll enable again my monitoring every minute, hoping that observing a process
  will not modify it, as in quantum physics.

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: need to reinstall pulseaudio every day

2021-02-24 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Wed, 24 Feb 2021, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:


In Schrödinger's Equation of quantum physics, "in practice, the square of
the absolute value of the wave function at each point is taken to define a
probability density function".


 the situation is rather complex  now, after the experiments following
 the Bell's inequalities.
 For example, a lot of people think now that in the Schrodinger's cat
 experiment, the cat is actually alive or dead, before anybody open the door.

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel

Re: need to reinstall pulseaudio every day

2021-02-24 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Wed, 24 Feb 2021, Dan Ritter wrote:


Your best bet there is alsa with apulse to pretend that it's
PulseAudio.


 the main difference is that it took 15 seconds to install pulseaudio and make 
it
 to work, and after 15 minutes of fight, I'm unable to make apulse to work
 I don't see why I should waste time to to replace a working solution by
 a non-working one.

PS: now, I don't need to re-install. I cross fingers.

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: need to reinstall pulseaudio every day

2021-02-24 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Wed, 24 Feb 2021, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:


Quantum physics principles manifest in software, seen it before. The closer
you look, the more dice you have to roll 


   but according Einstein, God doesn't play dice
   it seems he was wrong, this time

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: need to reinstall pulseaudio every day

2021-02-24 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Tue, 23 Feb 2021, David Wright wrote:


Is this buster?


  yes


Are you running any applications, particularly those involving sound,
as root, particularly in response to some previous problem?


  no


Is it just that binary that goes missing, or does apt/dpkg actually
show that the entire package is uninstalled?


   I can't answer that now, because I run
   "ls -l /usr/bin/pulseaudio" every minute to find when it disappears,
   and curiously, it didn't disappear this night
   I'll see what happens after removing  the ls command in cron.

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: need to reinstall pulseaudio every day

2021-02-24 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Tue, 23 Feb 2021, Dan Ritter wrote:


Could be an option. What do you need pulseaudio for that
isn't handled by alsa, jack and/or apulse?


it's needed to have sound on youtube.
I tried your other suggestions a long time ago, and could not make them to work.
I'll try again today

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: need to reinstall pulseaudio every day

2021-02-23 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Tue, 23 Feb 2021, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:


Patient: Doctor when I move my arm this way, it hurts.
Doctor: Don't do that with your arm. Next!


 very funny, but I don't see how it is related to my pulseaudio problem,
 unless you suggest to don't use it !

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: need to reinstall pulseaudio every day

2021-02-23 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Tue, 23 Feb 2021, David Wright wrote:



When did this start to happen?
   . for years?
   . since installation?

Is this buster?

Are you running any applications, particularly those involving sound,
as root, particularly in response to some previous problem?

Is it just that binary that goes missing, or does apt/dpkg actually
show that the entire package is uninstalled?

The pulseaudio package contains about 216 files. Have they all gone,
or just the one binary? (Run   $ dpkg -L pulseaudio   to list them.)


 hi David,
 I'll answer to-morrow.
 Meantime, may-be my every minute check will have given some usefull information

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



need to reinstall pulseaudio every day

2021-02-23 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

hi,
the problem is exactly what says my subject.
every morning, ls /usr/bin/pulseaudio gives:
ls: cannot access '/usr/bin/pulseaudio': No such file or directory
and I must issue "aptitude reinstall pulseaudio" 
I plan to put the ls command every minute to find when it disappears,

unless somebody can give me an axplanation (and a fix...)

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: debian-user list info and guidelines: spam

2021-01-25 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Mon, 25 Jan 2021, Andy Smith wrote:


 to point them at fastmail.com.

I've no association with fastmail.com, I just find them pleasant to
deal with when helping people.


  an other solution is "getmail", available as a debian package,
  and also, I suppose, with other distribs.
  I'm using it since several years, and is very happy with the way it works.
  It puts the incoming mail in a directory, and it's then easy to
  run a filter script, to remove spams.

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: [HS] Message suspect

2021-01-12 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Tue, 12 Jan 2021, Nisar JAGABAR wrote:


...
   il faut trouver et de mettre à jour régulièrement les black-list qui 

peuvent (ou non) contenir ces fameux hostname ...


c'est effectivement la méthode la plus facile et la plus efficace.
Mon programme anti-spam utilise le programme getmail, et avec des 
white lists et des black lists (pour les champs "from" "to" et "subject"),

je n'ai pratiquement plus de spam

Cordialement,
--
Pierre Frenkiel

[solved] Re: lpr stange behaviour

2020-11-11 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Wed, 11 Nov 2020, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:


Hm. Looking into the Postscript files, tst.ps has one page and
tst2.ps has two. So it seems to work as intended.

Why do you expect tst2.ps to only yield one page?


hi Tomas,
you are perfectly right: I used the wrong tool (xv) to display the file.
I installed gv, and with it I see that it actually has 2 pages!
thanks for your help.
cheers,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



lpr stange behaviour

2020-11-11 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

hi,
I have 2 postscript files, tst.ps and tst2.ps. (cf attached files)
with: lpr -P pdf  tst.ps, I get a 1 page tst.pdf
with: lpr -P pdf  tst2.ps, I get a 2 pages tst2.pdf
Can anybody help to solve this mystery?

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel


tst.ps
Description: PostScript document


tst2.ps
Description: PostScript document


gmail settings

2020-10-25 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

hi,
I set the gmail settings to "no transfer"
This worked some days ago, but no more works, i.e. gmail still tries to tranfer
incoming mails. 
Has anybody an explanation?


best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



rejected posts to alpine-info

2020-10-22 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

when I try to send a mail to the alpine-info list, I get the following error
message:

   You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has
   been automatically rejected.  If you think that your messages are
   being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
   alpine-info-ow...@mailman13.u.washington.edu.

Of course, my mails to alpine-info-owner are also rejected!!
any idea?
I hope that my post to this list will have a better treatment.

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: rejected posts to alpine-info

2020-10-22 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Thu, 22 Oct 2020, Dan Ritter wrote:


As the archive shows, write from a different email address.

(Pierre did that, and the list accepted that message.)



 I actually also subscribed as p.frenk...@laposte.net
 things are now clarified.



gmail settings

2020-10-20 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

hi,

After modifying  the gmail settings(disable transfer), I get a prompt 
"register the modifications", and I click on it, but actually the 
settings are not


updated.

Has anybody an explanation, and possibly a fix?

best regards



wrong from field with alpine

2020-10-18 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

hi,

when I send a mail with alpine, the from field becomes 
"frenk...@laposte.net" instead of "p.frenk...@laposte.net"


An obvious consequence is that people can't reply to this mail

that looks like an alpine bug. I'll then make a bug report, unless 
somebody tells me what I'm doing wrong.




Re: Re: Download button disabled

2020-08-30 Thread pierre . frenkiel


Thank you Andrei, your recipe worked perfectly, as the one proposed by John
--
Envoyé depuis l'application myMail pour Android

Re: Re: Download button disabled

2020-08-30 Thread pierre . frenkiel

Thank you John, that works perfectly
--
Envoyé depuis l'application myMail pour Android

Re: Re: Download button disabled

2020-08-29 Thread pierre . frenkiel

Hi Andrei,
Disabling the ad blocker changes nothing.
Here is,   as requested, the link to the download page:
   packages.debian.org/buster/python-pkg-resources
Best regards
--
Envoyé depuis l'application myMail pour Android

Download button disabled

2020-08-26 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
I try to download a file. I can get, it appears on my window,
Below, there is "download " but this "button" does nothing
There is also a recomendation "use apt-get", but I precisely need this
file to enable the network on my laptop.
Is there a way to enable this "download' button?
Best regards


sources.list for security

2020-07-05 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

hi,

I found several proposals for thre security entry

deb http://security.debian.org/ buster/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main 
contrib non-free

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/ buster/updates main

which one must be chosen?

best regards,

Pierre Frenkiel



inconsistent messages

2020-07-02 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

hi,

I have:

For the stable distribution (buster), these problems have been fixed in
version 83.0.4103.116-1~deb10u1.

chromium is already installed at the latest version 
(80.0.3987.162-1~deb10u1),

and my sources.list contains:

## buster-updates
deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main contrib 
non-free


## buster security
deb http://security.debian.org/ buster/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main 
contrib non-free


what is wrong, or missing?

best regards

Pierre Frenkiel



inconsistent upgrade messages

2020-07-02 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

hi,

how do you explain that:


For the stable distribution (buster), these problems have been fixed in
version 83.0.4103.116-1~deb10u1.

chromium is already installed at the latest version 
(80.0.3987.162-1~deb10u1),


best regards

Pierre Frenkiel



mails envoyés avec alpine

2020-06-29 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

bonjour,

Tous les mails que j'essaie d'envoyer avec alpine sont tagués comme spam.

Par contre, avec thunderbird, cela fonctionne parfaitement, comme vous 
le voyez.


Quelqu'un a-t-il une idée?

cordialement.

Pierre Frenkiel



mails tagged as spam with alpine

2020-06-27 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

all mails I send using alpine are tagged as spam.
As you can see, this doesn't occur with thunderbird
Is there a  way to get rid of this tagging?
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: fetchmail timeout

2020-04-06 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Mon, 6 Apr 2020, Andrei POPESCU wrote:


Long term you might need a hold or pin for that (my preference would be
a pin).


   hi Andrei,
   I felt that the description of the pinning process is rather
   confusing, either in the apt-get man or the aptitude man.
   Can you tell me what whould be the exact command to pin getmail?

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: fetchmail timeout

2020-04-05 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:


let them remove getmail if thay are not able to support it.
As I'm perfectly happy with the present Debian version,
I'll just keep it, disabling my upgrade process, until getmail support
reappears.


  actually, I was too drastic: as "apt-get upgrade" gives all actions
  that would be taken(upgraded, removed and new packages)
  it's easy to cancel the upgrade if it wants to remove getmail

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: fetchmail timeout

2020-04-05 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020, songbird wrote:


Celejar wrote:
...

https://marc.info/?l=getmail=157365887605305=2



 let them remove getmail if thay are not able to support it.
 As I'm perfectly happy with the present Debian version,
 I'll just keep it, disabling my upgrade process, until getmail support
 reappears.

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: fetchmail timeout

2020-04-04 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Sat, 4 Apr 2020, Andrei POPESCU wrote:


You have to keep also a Python 2 interpreter for it.


  same question: why would it disapear ?

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: fetchmail timeout

2020-04-04 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Sat, 4 Apr 2020, songbird wrote:


 yes, but don't get too complacent as eventually
getmail goes away if nobody ports it to python3.


   thank you for the advice, but I imagine it will not disappear from my disk,
   even if it is no more supported.

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: fetchmail timeout

2020-04-04 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

I have the following problem with fetchmail:
fetchmail: timeout after 300 seconds waiting for server
imap.gmail.com.


  hi,
  the fix I found was to abandon fetchmail. I'm using now getmail, which
  works perfectly

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



fetchmail timeout (fwd)

2020-03-29 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
 IMAP< * 51 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 6322)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 52 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 11556)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 53 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 10822)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 54 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 9561)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 55 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 33494)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 56 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 8485)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 57 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 7283)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 58 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 10996)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 59 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 3017741)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 60 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 11714)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 61 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 7579)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 62 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 8428)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 63 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 10245)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 64 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 27750)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 65 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 12237)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 66 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 8719)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 67 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 7524)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 68 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 10883)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 69 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 8341)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 70 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 6857)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 71 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 10555)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 72 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 7625)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 73 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 8536)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 74 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 7567)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 75 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 8867)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 76 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 7621)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 77 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 7898)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 78 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 30935)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 79 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 10226)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 80 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 3302)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 81 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 8531)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 82 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 33586)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 83 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 9892)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 84 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 13325)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 85 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 18660)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 86 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 6957)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 87 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 3982)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 88 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 9073)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 89 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 6988)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 90 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 17437)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 91 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 10144)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 92 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 8073)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 93 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 7693)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 94 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 6938)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 95 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 11124)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 96 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 10220)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 97 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 6015)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 98 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 7154)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 99 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 8268)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 100 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 12783)
fetchmail: IMAP< A0005 OK Success
fetchmail: IMAP> A0006 FETCH 1 RFC822.HEADER
fetchmail: IMAP< * 1 FETCH (RFC822.HEADER {3040}
fetchmail: reading message pierre.frenk...@imap.gmail.com:1 of 211 (3040 header 
octets) (log message incomplete)
fetchmail: IMAP< )
fetchmail: IMAP< A0006 OK Success
fetchmail: IMAP> A0007 FETCH 1 BODY.PEEK[TEXT]
fetchmail: IMAP< A0007 NO System Error (Failure)
best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



fetchmail timeout

2020-03-28 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

hi,
I have the following problem with fetchmail:
fetchmail: timeout after 300 seconds waiting for server imap.gmail.com.
here is my .fetchmailrc


set logfile "/data/home/frenkiel/log/fetchmail"
set pidfile "/data/home/frenkiel/.fetchmail.pid"
set postmaster "frenkiel"
set nobouncemail
set no spambounce
set properties ""
set daemon 15
set invisible
poll imap.gmail.com with proto IMAP auth password
 interface enp0s31f6/192.168.1.12/255.255.255.255
 user 'pierre.frenkiel' there is 'frenkiel' here options fetchall stripcr 
ssl

 the password is set in .netrc


 please reply pierre.frenk...@gmx.com

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: printing on a remote usb printer

2019-12-12 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Thu, 12 Dec 2019, Brian wrote:


This looks good. We take it that you can print from *the server*?

  yes, of course...


'lp -d ljp /etc/nsswitch.conf' saves you a bit of ink/toner.


  thank you for the tip


At last, I found the origin of the problem:

  wrong "order" entries in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
  as I thought that the 1st parameter was the default, but actually the default 
one is the 2nd!

  I had
 order allow,deny
  and the correct order should be
 order deny,allow

thank you Brian for your collaboration: I suppose that the cupsenable and 
cupsaccept you gave me
are not useless. I'll check that on an other client.

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: printing on a remote usb printer

2019-12-12 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Thu, 12 Dec 2019, Brian wrote:


Post what you get for 'lpstat -t' on server and client.


I only left entries for the involved printer

on the server:

   scheduler is running
   system default destination: ljp
   device for ljp: hp:/usb/HP_LaserJet_MFP_M227-M231?serial=VNC3P21987
   ljp accepting requests since Thu 12 Dec 2019 06:33:27 PM CET
   printer ljp is idle.  enabled since Thu 12 Dec 2019 06:33:27 PM CET

on the client:

   scheduler is running
   system default destination: ljp
   device for ljp: ipp://pfr2/printers/ljp
   ljp not accepting requests since Thu 12 Dec 2019 09:02:47 AM CET -
  reason unknown
   printer ljp is idle.  enabled since Thu 12 Dec 2019 09:02:47 AM CET

   I noticed, in/var/log/cups/error_log(server side)
 Returning HTTP Forbidden for Get-Printer-Attributes 
(ipp://pfr2.local:631/printers/ljp) from 192.168.1.163

   and the client:
  Returning IPP server-error-not-accepting-jobs for Create-Job 
(ipp://localhost/printers/ljp) from localhost.




printing on a remote usb printer

2019-12-11 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

hi,
I'm trying to configure a print queue using a remote usb printer.
I found on Internet the following recommended config:

   DeviceURI ipp://192.168.1.12:631/printers/ljp

but it doesn't work: I get "the printer is not responding"
Idem without :631.
I suppose that something is missing or wrong, on the server or the client
side, but what?

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel




solved - Re: password refused by cups on localhost:631

2019-12-03 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Tue, 3 Dec 2019, Brian wrote:


I wish I could have confidence in your interpretation of what you see.
The pop-up has two blank fields. Why you maintain the default user is
"root" and it needs to be changed is beyond me.


  Yes, I maintain it...
  I don't have 2 blank fields,
  but 2 fields containing "root" and the registred root password
  Anyway, I found that there were 2 running cupsd.
  After killing one, everything works fine, i.e for either root or me,
  the password is accepted.

  thanks everybody for your advices.

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel




Re: password refused by cups on localhost:631 (fwd)

2019-12-03 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Tue, 3 Dec 2019, Gene Heskett wrote:


When it pops up the requester, did you change it from the default root to
your name you've added to lpadmin and your passwd?  That works here.


  yes, I do that, and my password is refused, as well as the root one



Re: password refused by cups on localhost:631 (fwd)

2019-12-03 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Sat, 30 Nov 2019, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
   It has a been a while, but my recollection is that you add a normal user
   to the lpadmin group.  Then by authenticating as that user you can
   administer through the web interface.

   hi Roberto,
   alas, I already did that, without success.

no more answers 
nobody can give an advice?

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: password refused by cups on localhost:631

2019-11-30 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Sat, 30 Nov 2019, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
   It has a been a while, but my recollection is that you add a normal user
   to the lpadmin group.  Then by authenticating as that user you can
   administer through the web interface.

   hi Roberto,
   alas, I already did that, without success.

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



password refused by cups on localhost:631

2019-11-30 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

hi,
I tried to add a printer using the localhost:631 cups interface,
but the root password was refused, as well as mine
To be sure that the provided password was valid, I reset it with the
passwd command.
can anybody explain that?

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: scanner problem

2019-11-24 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Sun, 24 Nov 2019, Brian wrote:


Your device is supported since HPLIP 3.16.1. Debian has packages in
stretch, buster and unstable to suit you, so there should be no need
to install the latest from HPLIP. Time and time again I see users
doing this and making problems for themselves.


  I am on Buster, and of course started first by trying to use the Debian HPLIP
  packages, which not worked.



Re: scanner problem

2019-11-24 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Sun, 24 Nov 2019, Brian wrote:


*Except* models.dat also has

 scan-type=5

This type is SOAP2, a proprietary protocol, which needs the plugin.


  I actually found this line, but you really need to be be a guru to
  understand what it implies! (you can't rely on Google for that)
  Sometimes, user-friendly config files include comments to explain their
  content to non-guru users...

  Anyway, thank you again for this useful tip.

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: scanner problem

2019-11-24 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Sun, 24 Nov 2019, Brian wrote:


Install with

 sh hplip-3.19.11-plugin.run


   thank you Brian for this tip. It worked perfectly.
   your link is actually better than the one I found with Google:

   https://www.openprinting.org/download/printdriver/auxfiles/HP/plugins/

   where the most recent is 3.19.6

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: scanner problem

2019-11-24 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Sun, 24 Nov 2019, Brian wrote:


Do you have the plugin installed?


  I looked on the HP web site, and found hundreds of plugins, but no one
  for my printer ...



Re: scanner problem

2019-11-24 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Sun, 24 Nov 2019, Brian wrote:


What version of HPLIP?


  hplip-3.19.11
  installed with configure/make/make install

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



scanner problem

2019-11-24 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

hi,
I have a problem when trying to scan with my usb printer 
HP_LaserJet_MFP_M227-M231.
Printing works perfectly, but trying to scan gives:

error: SANE: Error during device I/O (code=9)

When I run hp-check or hp-doctor, it is listed in the scanning devices,

Google only gave me non working tips.

Has anybody an idea?

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



sshfs problem on amd64

2019-11-06 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

hi,
I used to mount my smartphone (which runs a ssh server) with sshfs
on my Debian/Buster PC, and it works perfectly. Now, I tried to do the same
on my laptop(also Debian/Buster), and it fails. The strange thing is
that the syslog says:
 systemd[1]: gn4.mount: Succeeded.
any idea?

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: stranges choices of printers

2019-10-09 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Wed, 9 Oct 2019, Klaus Singvogel wrote:


My explanation:
The "...-M231" is the only working printer on your Linux system.

  yes, as laserjet  (I have also envy, which gives no problem)


Okkular has stored somewhere the "...sdn_BDD3AA_" printer in your
environment, e.g. $HOME/.lp*  or .config/kde/

  I found BDD3A nowhere , neither in okular setting nor in evince.
  grep -ar BDD  in /etc and /var gave nothing
  God knows where okular find it


Have you ever printed before with okkular to the "...sdn_BDD3AA_" printer?

   yes. it works

  with evince, it's stranger:
  it finds HP_LaserJet_MFP_M227-M231 and ljp (paused), but not ...BDD3A...
  if I try to use ljp, the previen says "no such printer" !

  that seems really crazy




stranges choices of printers

2019-10-09 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

hi,
I discoverd today some strange behaviours of different softwares for
the choice of printers.

"lpstat -a" gives:
 HP_LaserJet_MFP_M227-M231 accepting requests since Thu 01 Aug 2019 09:00:53 AM 
CEST

printers seen on okular
   HP_LaserJet_MFP_M227-M231
   HP_LaserJet_MFP_M227sdn_BDD3AA_

printers seen on evince or geeqie
   HP_LaserJet_MFP_M227-M231
   ljp   paused

   the latter is displayed even when cupsd is stopped

Can anybody explain that?

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-06 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Brian wrote:


Printing is comprehensively covered on the wiki. A starting point is

 https://wiki.debian.org/QuickPrintQueuesCUPS

Scanning is trickier because user-facing software needs developing.
Have look at

 https://wiki.debian.org/SaneOverNetwork#airprint


 thank you Brian for these 2 interesting links

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-03 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Sat, 3 Aug 2019, mick crane wrote:


On 2019-08-01 20:35, Curt wrote:

On 2019-08-01, Pierre Frenkiel  wrote:

  I suspect it it is a timing problem, and works for a not too big number 
of hops.

  How many hops for you, with traceroute?
  for me, traceroute stops at the ninth step ( 198.32.176.33),
  before reaching the target.


I can't reach https://www.openprinting.org from here either.



for me that link goes to https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/openprinting/start


  today, both links work.
  The obvious conclusion is that Einstein was wrong: God actually plays dice

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-03 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:


On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote:


So - you had the plugin installed already!


yes, but as I already said, on my desktop, it gives:

   error: Unable to open /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock lock file.

and on my laptop, it opens a window saying:

  the driver plugin for HPLIP 3.16.11 appears to already be installed.
  do you want to download and reinstall the plug-in?

which is more user friendly.


  now, hp-plugin works (god knows why), and it installs the bb_ files
  in /usr/share/hplip/scan/plugins, but if I call it again,
  it still proposes to install, instead of saying
   the driver plugin for HPLIP 3.16.11 appears to already be installed.
  as on my laptop
  an other computing mystery...

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-02 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote:


So - you had the plugin installed already!


 yes, but as I already said, on my desktop, it gives:

error: Unable to open /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock lock file.

and on my laptop, it opens a window saying:

   the driver plugin for HPLIP 3.16.11 appears to already be installed.
   do you want to download and reinstall the plug-in?

which is more user friendly.

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-02 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote:


A final try:

mkdir /usr/share/hplip/scan/plugins/

and copy bb_escl*, bb_marvell*, bb_orblite*, bb_soap_ht* and bb_soap to
it.


  that will not be necessary, as the directory already exists, with
  all the files you mention!

anyway, thank you for the time you spend to help people

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-02 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote:


https://wiki.debian.org/PrintQueuesCUPS#hp

Omit the first and last steps in the instructions.


 I already did that, but I tried it again, with the same result.

I think it may be interesting to try with a live cd. I'll do that.

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-02 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote:


  I also installed all xxqt4xx packages


Not so good.


   agreed. As that solved nothing, I purged them


'hp-plugin -i -p hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run' is the most straightforward
command to use to install the plugin.

(hplip-3.19.6 is from the experimental (rc-buggy) archive. Thanks for
testing it. As far as hplip is concerned your machine is not, as you
claim, on buster).


  Actually, I am on buster: cat /etc/debian_version ==> 10.0
  I installed the correxponding version of hplip, which is now
 3.18.12+dfsg0-2
  but
hp-plugin -i -p hplip-3.18.12-plugin.run
  still gives:
error: Unable to open /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock lock file.

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-02 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Brian wrote:


You have been give a second link to download the plugin from. Can you
connect to that? A reminder:

https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/plugins


  It's the 1st time I see this link. May-be I missed it before...

  It works fine, and I could download ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run
  I also installed all xxqt4xx packages
  But using this file looks like an April fool:


==> ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run
   Verifying archive integrity... All good.
   Uncompressing HPLIP 3.19.6 Plugin Self Extracting 
Archive..

   HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.19.6)
   Plugin Installer ver. 3.0

   Copyright (c) 2001-15 HP Development Company, LP
   This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
   This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it
   under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details.

   Plug-in version: 3.19.6
   Installed HPLIP version: 3.19.6
   Number of files to install: 64

   error: Unable to load Qt4 support. Is it installed? Try running with -i or 
--qt3 instead.

==> ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run -1
   Unrecognized flag : -i
   Makeself version 2.1.5
1) Getting help or info about ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run :
 ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --help   Print this message
 ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --info   Print embedded info : title, default 
target directory, embedded script ...
 ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --lsmPrint embedded lsm entry (or no LSM)
 ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --list   Print the list of files in the archive
 ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --check  Checks integrity of the archive

2) Running ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run :
 ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run [options] [--] [additional arguments to embedded 
script]
 with following options (in that order)
 --confirm Ask before running embedded script
 --noexec  Do not run embedded script
 --keepDo not erase target directory after running
the embedded script
 --nox11   Do not spawn an xterm
 --nochown Do not give the extracted files to the current user
 --target NewDirectory Extract in NewDirectory
 --tar arg1 [arg2 ...] Access the contents of the archive through the tar 
command
 --Following arguments will be passed to the embedded 
script

==> ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --qt3
   Unrecognized flag : --qt3
   Makeself version 2.1.5
1) Getting help or info about ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run :
 ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --help   Print this message
 ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --info   Print embedded info : title, default 
target directory, embedded script ...
 ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --lsmPrint embedded lsm entry (or no LSM)
 ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --list   Print the list of files in the archive
 ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run --check  Checks integrity of the archive

2) Running ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run :
 ./hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run [options] [--] [additional arguments to embedded 
script]
 with following options (in that order)
 --confirm Ask before running embedded script
 --noexec  Do not run embedded script
 --keepDo not erase target directory after running
the embedded script
 --nox11   Do not spawn an xterm
 --nochown Do not give the extracted files to the current user
 --target NewDirectory Extract in NewDirectory
 --tar arg1 [arg2 ...] Access the contents of the archive through the tar 
command
 --Following arguments will be passed to the embedded 
script


best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-01 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:


On qui, 01 ago 2019, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:

And what are the permissions in the directory, as Tomas asked?
(ls -al /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip)


Even better, "ls -ald /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip"


no, not better: you have already the information with
"ls -al /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip"
looking at the . directory


best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-01 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:


On qui, 01 ago 2019, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
Perhaps you succeeded running hp-plugin once as root and it created the 
lock file (/data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock) with root permission


  hi Tomas,
  thank you for your suggestion, but it's of course the first thing I 
checked

  and  found no lock file
  Anyway, I dont see how running anything as root, in the root tree,
  could create a file in mmy home tree.


And what are the permissions in the directory, as Tomas asked? (ls -al 
/data/home/frenkiel/.hplip)




drwxr-   3 frenkiel frenkiel  4096 Aug  1 15:00 .
drwx-- 311 frenkiel frenkiel 20480 Aug  1 20:00 ..
drwxr-xr-x   3 frenkiel frenkiel  4096 Feb 24 18:01 .gnupg
-rw-r-   1 frenkiel frenkiel  4978 Jul  3 12:49 hp-doctor.log
-rw-r-   1 frenkiel frenkiel   541 Aug  1 09:37 hplip.conf
-rw-r-   1 frenkiel frenkiel   216 Jul  3 13:03 hplip_queues.log
-rw-r-   1 frenkiel frenkiel 0 Jul  4 17:31 hp-upgrade.log

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel



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