Re: keyboard qui s'éteint
Ah merci ça correspond oui, c'est quand je fais un ctrl +/ou shift dans Blender, merci! On 25/09/2015 16:47, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2015-09-08 19:30:40 +0200, le pigeon wrote: non, clavier connecté au port PS/2, souris usb filaire. il n'y aurait pas une combinaison de touche qui annule le clavier? Car ça me le fait quand j'utilise Blender, souvent avec " ctlr/shift et MMButton" Si c'est opération à la souris pendant que Shift enfoncé, c'est justement ce qui peut activer Slow Keys.
Re: keyboard qui s'éteint
On 25/09/2015 16:47, Vincent Lefevre wrote: Si c'est opération à la souris pendant que Shift enfoncé, c'est justement ce qui peut activer Slow Keys. et effectivement si je garde une touche enfoncée ça fonctionne (quand le keyboard se désactive)
Re: paquet n'étant plus dans les dépots
On 22/09/2015 11:22, Jean-Jacques Doti wrote: Bonjour, Le 21/09/2015 23:15, Haricophile a écrit : Le lundi 21 septembre 2015, 21:25:25 le pigeon a écrit : j'utilise Debian testing 64 Et bien voilà, tout est dit. et suite à aptitude safe-update j'ai certain paquet qui ont été désinstallé et ne sont plus dans les dépôts, notamment KRITA. Il a été gelé? Car je vois qu'il est dispo pour SID. Pour utiliser testing à autre chose qu'à tester, je recommande d'ajouter les dépôts de SID avec un pinning pour rester en Testing. Si pour une raison quelconque un paquet est retiré, genre il y a un problème dessus ou il y a une migration en cours non terminée (kde5 ? GCC ?) on ne reste pas coincé. https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences Pour le coup, utiliser unstable ne va pas régler grand chose… Voici ce que j'en ai compris. On est toujours dans les à-côtés de la migration vers gcc5. Toute la suite calligra (dont krita) dépend de libilmbase6 qui a disparu récemment, remplacé par libilmbase6v5 (il s'agit de la même bibliothèque recompilé avec gcc5 avec renommage du paquet pour faire coexister les deux pendant un certain temps). Il sera de nouveau possible d'installer calligra lorsque tout aura été recompilé mais ça risque de prendre un peu de temps. Au vu du bug 787033 – https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=787033 – datant du mois de mai, je suppute que le travail va être effectué sur une nouvelle version (version 2.9.7 actuellement) plutôt que sur la version 2.8.5 actuellement dans les dépôts… Après, on est effectivement sur une distribution en mouvement permanent, sans garantie quant à la disponibilité des différents logiciels. Ici, calligra est sorti de testing pour éviter de bloquer le passage à gcc5. La situation ne devrait être que provisoire mais cela dépend de la disponibilité du mainteneur. Lors des mises à jour, il faut réellement surveiller ce qui peut être supprimé : je pense qu'il aurait été possible de conserver krita, mais cela aurait certainement bloqué la mise à jour de très nombreux paquets (lors du passage à gcc5, sous sid, j'ai eu plusieurs centaines de paquets bloqués comme cela). Pour le coup, le Pigeon n'a plus qu'à attendre et espérer. Ce qui m'étonne tout de même, c'est que je pensais qu'un "safe-upgrade" (et non pas safe-update) ne pouvais supprimer aucun paquet. j'ai l'impression que l'on ne nous dit pas tout… A+ Jean-Jacques Merci pour cette explication Jean-Jacques. J'ai bien veillé à faire un safe-upgrade* et pas un full-upgrade car justement il y avait trop de paquet à enlever. Il y a quelques jour j'avais environ 180 paquet non mis à jour et environ 30 aujourd’hui. C'est pendant ce laps de temps que ça a du se faire. J'attends patiemment et en attendant j'utilise MYPAINT a++
Re: paquet n'étant plus dans les dépots
On 22/09/2015 01:40, Sylvain L. Sauvage wrote: [remis dans l’ordre] Le lundi 21 septembre 2015, 22:54:58 le pigeon a écrit : On 21/09/2015 22:42, Michel MOUNIER wrote: […] Étonnant : ~$ apt-cache policy krita krita: Installé : (aucun) Candidat : 1:2.8.5+dfsg-1+b2 Table de version : 1:2.8.5+dfsg-1+b2 0 500 http://ftp2.fr.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main amd64 Packages ah oui en effet, chez moi ça donne ceci: sudo apt-cache policy krita krita: Installé : (aucun) Candidat : (aucun) Table de version : 1:2.8.5+dfsg-1.2 0 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status C’est normal, l’un est en testing, l’autre en stable… Maintenant, il arrive que des paquets disparaissent de testing (ou unstable) pour quelques jours. Si l’on se trouve dans ton cas et que c’est juste au moment de la disparition d’un paquet que l’on a envie/besoin de l’installer, il vaut mieux ajouter les deux sources testing+stable (ou unstable+testing) pour au moins récupérer les anciennes versions. Elles ne sont pas toujours installables (si elles ont été virées, c’est pour une raison) mais souvent, ça aide. Merci pour vos réponses!
paquet n'étant plus dans les dépots
Bonsoir, j'utilise Debian testing 64, et suite à aptitude safe-update j'ai certain paquet qui ont été désinstallé et ne sont plus dans les dépôts, notamment KRITA. Il a été gelé? Car je vois qu'il est dispo pour SID. "sudo aptitude install krita Pas de version candidate trouvée pour krita sudo aptitude search krita c krita - pixel-based image manipulation program for i krita-data - data files for Krita painting program" merci
Re: paquet n'étant plus dans les dépots
ah oui en effet, chez moi ça donne ceci: sudo apt-cache policy krita krita: Installé : (aucun) Candidat : (aucun) Table de version : 1:2.8.5+dfsg-1.2 0 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status On 21/09/2015 22:42, Michel MOUNIER wrote: Le 21/09/2015 21:25, le pigeon a écrit : Bonsoir, j'utilise Debian testing 64, et suite à aptitude safe-update j'ai certain paquet qui ont été désinstallé et ne sont plus dans les dépôts, notamment KRITA. Il a été gelé? Car je vois qu'il est dispo pour SID. "sudo aptitude install krita Pas de version candidate trouvée pour krita sudo aptitude search krita c krita - pixel-based image manipulation program for i krita-data - data files for Krita painting program" merci Étonnant : ~$ apt-cache policy krita krita: Installé : (aucun) Candidat : 1:2.8.5+dfsg-1+b2 Table de version : 1:2.8.5+dfsg-1+b2 0 500 http://ftp2.fr.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main amd64 Packages
Re: Clavier qui se blo. au réveil.
Merci pour ta réponse, mais je ne suis pas en usb. J'ai eu se problème suite à un 'aptitude safe-upgrade' ou 'full-upgrade', mais depuis mon dernier post j'ai pas eu d'autre problème. peut être un conflit. On 13/09/2015 10:47, Dominique Dumont wrote: J'arrive sans doute après la bataille, mais ça peut toujours servir... Le jeudi 27 août 2015, 22:17:07 22:17:07 Charles Plessy a écrit : Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04f2:b517 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd J'ai eu ce genre de problème avec mon portable au boulot avec un clavier USB externe Chicony, soit le clavier est inopérant au réveil ou s'arrête après quelques secondes. C'est le package laptop-mode-tools qui contrôle l'arrêt et le démarrage du (ou des) claviers. J'ai finit par mettre sur liste noire le clavier Chicony. (/etc/laptop- mode/conf.d/runtime-pm.conf) Depuis plus (ou très peu) de problèmes. Cf https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=792902 HTH
Re: keyboard qui s'éteint
Bon ça recommence... et je ne vois pas d'où ça peut venir... Je continue à chercher On 08/09/2015 19:30, le pigeon wrote: non, clavier connecté au port PS/2, souris usb filaire. il n'y aurait pas une combinaison de touche qui annule le clavier? Car ça me le fait quand j'utilise Blender, souvent avec " ctlr/shift et MMButton" (désolé Bernard j'ai oublié de reply to list) On 08/09/2015 19:21, Bernard Schoenacker wrote: Le Tue, 08 Sep 2015 18:58:26 +0200, le pigeon <le.pigeon.voyageur.dans.le.te...@openmailbox.org> a écrit : Bonsoir tout le monde, je suis actuellement sous Debian testing (openbox) , et mon clavier devient inactif aléatoirement alors que je suis en trian de l'utiliser (pas de mode veille quoi). Il n'y a que le logout/login (clic droit souris) qui permet de le réactiver. Vous avez déjà eu ce soucis? merci bonjour, serait ce un clavier et une souris usb sans fil (à piles) ? www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeOLQm7Jju4 slt bernard
Re: keyboard qui s'éteint
oui bien sur, sauf que dans ton lien c'est une colombe pas un pigeon. :) renseigne toi la prochaine fois amicalement On 09/09/2015 10:57, Bernard Schoenacker wrote: Le Wed, 09 Sep 2015 10:08:30 +0200, le pigeon <le.pigeon.voyageur.dans.le.te...@openmailbox.org> a écrit : Bon ça recommence... et je ne vois pas d'où ça peut venir... Je continue à chercher bonjour, serait il possible d'essayer xfce ? www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQhkg6llh3E slt bernard
Fwd: Re: keyboard qui s'éteint
sympa...merci pour vous être donné la peine de me répondre. Forwarded Message Subject:Re: keyboard qui s'éteint Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 18:39:36 +0200 From: Bernard Schoenacker <bernard.schoenac...@free.fr> To: le pigeon <le.pigeon.voyageur.dans.le.te...@openmailbox.org> Le Wed, 09 Sep 2015 14:58:14 +0200, le pigeon <le.pigeon.voyageur.dans.le.te...@openmailbox.org> a écrit : oui bien sur, sauf que dans ton lien c'est une colombe pas un pigeon. :) renseigne toi la prochaine fois amicalement bonjour, tant que ça roucoule bien slt bernard
Re: keyboard qui s'éteint
non, clavier connecté au port PS/2, souris usb filaire. il n'y aurait pas une combinaison de touche qui annule le clavier? Car ça me le fait quand j'utilise Blender, souvent avec " ctlr/shift et MMButton" (désolé Bernard j'ai oublié de reply to list) On 08/09/2015 19:21, Bernard Schoenacker wrote: Le Tue, 08 Sep 2015 18:58:26 +0200, le pigeon <le.pigeon.voyageur.dans.le.te...@openmailbox.org> a écrit : Bonsoir tout le monde, je suis actuellement sous Debian testing (openbox) , et mon clavier devient inactif aléatoirement alors que je suis en trian de l'utiliser (pas de mode veille quoi). Il n'y a que le logout/login (clic droit souris) qui permet de le réactiver. Vous avez déjà eu ce soucis? merci bonjour, serait ce un clavier et une souris usb sans fil (à piles) ? www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeOLQm7Jju4 slt bernard
keyboard qui s'éteint
Bonsoir tout le monde, je suis actuellement sous Debian testing (openbox) , et mon clavier devient inactif aléatoirement alors que je suis en trian de l'utiliser (pas de mode veille quoi). Il n'y a que le logout/login (clic droit souris) qui permet de le réactiver. Vous avez déjà eu ce soucis? merci
Re: WHAT???? Re: Externalisation hotline support technique SAV...
merci ! On 13/08/2015 07:01, Stéphane GARGOLY wrote: Bonjour à tous les utilisateurs et développeurs de Debian : Le mercredi 12 août 2015 à 04:35, le pigeon le.pigeon.voyageur.dans.le.te...@openmailbox.org a écrit : Bonjour je reçois ce spam dans mes mails, je clic sur Pour ne plus faire partie de cette liste de diffusion suivez ce lien. http://home.edt02.net/tracking/unsubscribe/ccyg9vMBSRpc-B2i1cqcc1JBf8c /zPj1Vba0D1jsiIH7MQhWd1RqdhN3HWZWThL0maAMYKWGO5xVawy2LgI7q4szbcu0 = vous êtes désinscrit de la débian-list... sérieux? Sinon, pour celui qui s'inquiète de son statut concernant son abonnement auprès de diverses listes de diffusion de Debian (dont debian-user- fre...@lists.debian.org), il lui suffit d'envoyer un courriel à majord...@lists.debian.org avec comme sujet - et contenu de message - which le.pigeon.voyageur.dans.le.te...@openmailbox.org. Après cela et au bout de je ne sais combien de minutes, il recevra un courriel (de la part de listmas...@lists.debian.org) dont son contenu énuméra toutes les listes de diffusion de Debian auxquelles il est effectivement abonné... Tout cela est indiqué à la page suivante : http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#subunsub Cordialement et à bientôt, Stéphane.
Re: WHAT???? Re: Externalisation hotline support technique SAV...
oui voilà merci Pierre ... On 12/08/2015 10:15, Pierre TOUZEAU wrote: le pigeon ne spammait pas la liste mais s'interrogeait sur le lien de désinscription qui précisait Debian list... Pas lieu de shooter comme ça... Pour info, c'est l'adresse de la liste (debian-user-french@lists.debian.org) qui est désinscrite de la liste de spam et non ton adresse (le.pigeon.voyageur.dans.le.te...@openmailbox.org) de la liste Debian... comme indiqué : Votre demande de désinscription de l'adresse (debian-user-french@lists.debian.org) a bien été enregistrée et sera prise en compte dans un délai de trois jours. Merci. Pierre Le 12/08/2015 08:24, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : Le Wed, 12 Aug 2015 06:35:08 +0200, le pigeonle.pigeon.voyageur.dans.le.te...@openmailbox.org a écrit : Bonjour je reçois ce spam dans mes mails, je clic sur Pour ne plus faire partie de cette liste de diffusion suivez ce lien. http://home.edt02.net/tracking/unsubscribe/ccyg9vMBSRpc-B2i1cqcc1JBf8c/zPj1Vba0D1jsiIH7MQhWd1RqdhN3HWZWThL0maAMYKWGO5xVawy2LgI7q4szbcu0 = vous êtes désinscrit de la débian-list... : http://home.edt02.net/tracking/unsubscribe/ccyg9vMBSRpc-B2i1cqcc1JBf8c/zPj1Vba0D1jsiIH7MQhWd1RqdhN3HWZWThL0maAMYKWGO5xVawy2LgI7q4szbcu0 sérieux? bonjour, prière d'arrêter de roucouler et merci d'avancer ... slt bernard -- Pro. Signature Pierre Touzeau -- Chargé de mission/Préfecture de region Basse-Normandie SGAR/rue Daniel HUET/14038 CAEN CEDEX/Tel: +33 231 306 306 pierre.touz...@basse-normandie.pref.gouv.fr / Fax: ... 564 --
WHAT???? Re: Externalisation hotline support technique SAV...
Bonjour je reçois ce spam dans mes mails, je clic sur Pour ne plus faire partie de cette liste de diffusion suivez ce lien. http://home.edt02.net/tracking/unsubscribe/ccyg9vMBSRpc-B2i1cqcc1JBf8c/zPj1Vba0D1jsiIH7MQhWd1RqdhN3HWZWThL0maAMYKWGO5xVawy2LgI7q4szbcu0 = vous êtes désinscrit de la débian-list... : http://home.edt02.net/tracking/unsubscribe/ccyg9vMBSRpc-B2i1cqcc1JBf8c/zPj1Vba0D1jsiIH7MQhWd1RqdhN3HWZWThL0maAMYKWGO5xVawy2LgI7q4szbcu0 sérieux? On 17/07/2015 06:05, Alice wrote: Service de télésecrétariat - Parce que le support technique est le moyen le plus efficace pour *construire**une relation client durable,* Ipcontact vous propose des solutions pour traiter efficacement 100% de vos appels et *optimiser votre système d'information.* • Centraliser et traiter l'ensemble des demandes • Diagnostiquer un problème et apporter une réponse • Faciliter l'escalade vers le bon interlocuteur • Intégrer les données directement dans votre logiciel CRM ou métier... Ipcontact mobilise une *équipe dédiée, formée à vos problématiques et personnalisée par métier :* 24H/24 7j/7, multilingues, assistante, chargé de clientèle, technicien après vente, ingénieur support technique... Pour découvrir nos solutions, suivez ce lien. http://home.edt02.net/tracking/ipcontact/ccyg9vMBSRpc-B2i1cym_hv-c1JBf8c Bien cordialement, L'équipe Ipcontact Message destiné aux sociétés et aux professionnels. Plateforme de Services Ipcontact basée exclusivement en France. Ipcontact est une marque du groupe Logicielnet. Confidentialité des données : conformément à la loi informatique du 6 Janvier 1978, vous disposez d'un droit d'accès et de rectification des données vous concernant. Nous nous engageons à ne pas transmettre votre adresse. Pour ne plus faire partie de cette liste de diffusion suivez ce lien. http://home.edt02.net/tracking/unsubscribe/ccyg9vMBSRpc-B2i1cqcc1JBf8c/zPj1Vba0D1jsiIH7MQhWd1RqdhN3HWZWThL0maAMYKWGO5xVawy2LgI7q4szbcu0
Re: upgrade de wheezy à testing,démarrage possible seulement en (sysvinit)
Salut, voici mon fstab: # that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5). # # file system mount point type options dump pass # / was on /dev/sda1 during installation UUID=2a235635-d5d2-4373-b6a5-ba38c64f24eb / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1 # swap was on /dev/sda2 during installation UUID=83d2bffd-ba34-4627-ac8c-1715a4b84ccd noneswap sw 0 0 /dev/sr0/media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 # entrée pour /dev/sdb1: UUID=5A58ED6E58ED4979/mnt/CAROntfs defaults,locale=fr_FR.UTF-800 #entrée pour /dev/sdb2: UUID=E0504097504075F6/mnt/SEAGATE_160ntfs defaults,locale=fr_FR.UTF-800 #entrée pour windows UUID=7CA64BF214B473AE /mnt/W7ntfs defaults,locale=fr_FR.UTF-8 0 0 effectivement sdb1 et sdb2 ne sont pas branché, je vais vite commenté la ligne et reboot. On 01/04/2015 11:20, Sylvain L. Sauvage wrote: [Même si on ne gueule plus que quand les messages sont en HTML seul, merci d’éviter de mettre trop de mise en forme. Le mode texte est le mode préféré.] Le mardi 31 mars 2015, 21:12:24 le pigeon a écrit : […] *a start job is running for dev-disk ...** […] Hmm, une rapide recherche sur ce message d’erreur (quelqu’un n’a pas fait ses devoirs ?) indique qu’il y aurait un problème avec /dev/disk/… qui n’est pas encore accessible. À quoi ressemble ton fstab ? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/551bbdfb.2080...@openmailbox.org
Re: [resolu] upgrade de wheezy à testing,démarrage possible seulement en (sysvinit)
C'était bien ça! Merci Sylvain. Cependant il reste un peu long à démarrer, mais je condidère comme résolu. On 01/04/2015 11:44, le pigeon wrote: Salut, voici mon fstab: # that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5). # # file system mount point type options dump pass # / was on /dev/sda1 during installation UUID=2a235635-d5d2-4373-b6a5-ba38c64f24eb / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1 # swap was on /dev/sda2 during installation UUID=83d2bffd-ba34-4627-ac8c-1715a4b84ccd noneswap sw 0 0 /dev/sr0/media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 # entrée pour /dev/sdb1: UUID=5A58ED6E58ED4979/mnt/CAROntfs defaults,locale=fr_FR.UTF-800 #entrée pour /dev/sdb2: UUID=E0504097504075F6/mnt/SEAGATE_160ntfs defaults,locale=fr_FR.UTF-800 #entrée pour windows UUID=7CA64BF214B473AE /mnt/W7ntfs defaults,locale=fr_FR.UTF-8 0 0 effectivement sdb1 et sdb2 ne sont pas branché, je vais vite commenté la ligne et reboot. On 01/04/2015 11:20, Sylvain L. Sauvage wrote: [Même si on ne gueule plus que quand les messages sont en HTML seul, merci d’éviter de mettre trop de mise en forme. Le mode texte est le mode préféré.] Le mardi 31 mars 2015, 21:12:24 le pigeon a écrit : […] *a start job is running for dev-disk ...** […] Hmm, une rapide recherche sur ce message d’erreur (quelqu’un n’a pas fait ses devoirs ?) indique qu’il y aurait un problème avec /dev/disk/… qui n’est pas encore accessible. À quoi ressemble ton fstab ? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/551bbf14.1080...@openmailbox.org
Fwd: Re: upgrade de wheezy à testing,démarrage possible seulement en (sysvinit)
Forwarded Message Subject: Re: upgrade de wheezy à testing,démarrage possible seulement en (sysvinit) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 11:48:32 +0200 From: Jean-Michel OLTRA jm.ol...@espinasse.net To: le pigeon le.pigeon.voyageur.dans.le.te...@openmailbox.org Bonjour, Le mardi 31 mars 2015, le pigeon a écrit... *a start job is running for dev-disk ...** **welcome to emergency mode!** **after logging in, type journalctl -xb ... systemctl reboot ... systemctl default** Tu devrais faire d'abord `journalctl -xb` comme demandé, pour avoir les logs. Puis (important) `systemctl list-jobs`, car il te dit qu'il y a un job qui tourne. J'ai eu un blocage équivalent, également sur une histoire de disque, si je me souviens bien, et il s'agissait d'un montage auto sur un périphérique usb dans la fstab, qui, bien sûr, n'était pas monté au boot (c…ie de ma part que j'ai donc payé au reboot suivant). -- jm Rebonjour, alors je n'ai aucun job avec 'systemctl list-jobs', et plein de chose avec 'journalctl -xb' mais je n'arrive pas à rediriger la sortie dans un fichier texte. je pensais que 'journalctl -xb ~/Documents/journal' fonctionnerait. Merci
Re: RESOLU DKIM mettre à jour krita et blender sur wheezy
Je suis passé de stable à testing, en plus ma vieille tablette qui ne fonctionnait pas bien avec wheezy a maintenant la pression pris en compte avec jessie, mais seulement avec krita. Pas de pression avec blender, mypaint, gimp ça plante carrément. On 29/03/2015 15:28, le pigeon wrote: Merci Michel mais j'utilise wheezy et pas jessie. On 28/03/2015 23:47, Michel MOUNIER wrote: Bonjour, Sous /Debian/Jessie : apt-cache policy krita krita: Installé : (aucun) Candidat : 1:2.8.5+dfsg-1+b2 apt-cache policy blender blender: Installé : (aucun) Candidat : 2.72.b+dfsg0-3 Bonnes installations Le 28/03/2015 23:43, le pigeon a écrit : Bonjour, je viens d'installer Krita sur debian wheezy 64 mais je vois que la version dans les dépots n'est pas la dernière en date. Est ce que je peux faire ceci : Ubuntu / Linux Mint Use the following PPA: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install krita Note: Previous versions of Krita MUST be uninstalled. comme spécifié sur le site officiel, cependant c'est pour ubuntu... ___ Idem pour Blender, la version 2.74 devrait sortir sous peu et dans les dépots wheezy le paquet est la version 2.63a. On peu télécharger le dernier paquet sur le site mais j'aimerais le faire via apt-get. Comment faire, svp ? Merci pour vos réponses -- Michel Mounier
upgrade de wheezy à testing,démarrage possible seulement en (sysvinit)
origine du sujet ici : http://debian-facile.org/viewtopic.php?pid=114572#p114572 Salut, je viens de faire un * aptitude safe-upgrade --full-resolver* en mettant testing dans mes dépots, mais je ne peux pas démarrer en mode normal. J'obtient ces messages : *a start job is running for dev-disk ...** **welcome to emergency mode!** **after logging in, type journalctl -xb ... systemctl reboot ... systemctl default** **give password for maintenance or type ctrl-d to continue* en tapant *#systemctl default* j'obtient *fin de la connection (raccroché)* et ctrl-d ne fait rien. Je peux démarrer seulement en sélectionnant (sysvinit) dans les option avancée de grub2. Comment réparer cela svp?
Re: upgrade de wheezy à testing,démarrage possible seulement en (sysvinit)
systemd est installé :/ On 31/03/2015 21:24, andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote: En installant systemd..., mais il parait que c'est pas bien :-) André On Tuesday 31 March 2015 21:12:24 le pigeon wrote: origine du sujet ici : http://debian-facile.org/viewtopic.php?pid=114572#p114572 je viens de faire un * aptitude safe-upgrade --full-resolver* en mettant testing dans mes dépots, mais je ne peux pas démarrer en mode normal. J'obtient ces messages : *a start job is running for dev-disk ...** **welcome to emergency mode!** **after logging in, type journalctl -xb ... systemctl reboot ... systemctl default** **give password for maintenance or type ctrl-d to continue* en tapant *#systemctl default* j'obtient *fin de la connection (raccroché)* et ctrl-d ne fait rien. Je peux démarrer seulement en sélectionnant (sysvinit) dans les option avancée de grub2. Comment réparer cela svp? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/551b26ac.5090...@openmailbox.org
Re: DKIM mettre à jour krita et blender sur wheezy
Merci Michel mais j'utilise wheezy et pas jessie. On 28/03/2015 23:47, Michel MOUNIER wrote: Bonjour, Sous /Debian/Jessie : apt-cache policy krita krita: Installé : (aucun) Candidat : 1:2.8.5+dfsg-1+b2 apt-cache policy blender blender: Installé : (aucun) Candidat : 2.72.b+dfsg0-3 Bonnes installations Le 28/03/2015 23:43, le pigeon a écrit : Bonjour, je viens d'installer Krita sur debian wheezy 64 mais je vois que la version dans les dépots n'est pas la dernière en date. Est ce que je peux faire ceci : Ubuntu / Linux Mint Use the following PPA: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install krita Note: Previous versions of Krita MUST be uninstalled. comme spécifié sur le site officiel, cependant c'est pour ubuntu... ___ Idem pour Blender, la version 2.74 devrait sortir sous peu et dans les dépots wheezy le paquet est la version 2.63a. On peu télécharger le dernier paquet sur le site mais j'aimerais le faire via apt-get. Comment faire, svp ? Merci pour vos réponses -- Michel Mounier
mettre à jour krita et blender sur wheezy
Bonjour, je viens d'installer Krita sur debian wheezy 64 mais je vois que la version dans les dépots n'est pas la dernière en date. Est ce que je peux faire ceci : Ubuntu / Linux Mint Use the following PPA: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install krita Note: Previous versions of Krita MUST be uninstalled. comme spécifié sur le site officiel, cependant c'est pour ubuntu... ___ Idem pour Blender, la version 2.74 devrait sortir sous peu et dans les dépots wheezy le paquet est la version 2.63a. On peu télécharger le dernier paquet sur le site mais j'aimerais le faire via apt-get. Comment faire, svp ? Merci pour vos réponses
Re: mettre à jour krita et blender sur wheezy
Impec merci, je vais jetter lire ceci : https://wiki.debian.org/fr/Backports ++ On 28/03/2015 23:27, Belaïd wrote: Bonsoir, Si tu rajoute ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports, Apt essayera de récupérer les informations concernant les paquets (le fichier Packages) pour une distribution Wheezy qui, n'existe pas sur le lien du dépôt (ppa) ubuntu (Normal, Wheezy est une Debian !) et donc se soldera par un échec. (regarde le lien http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/dists/ qui contient les noms des distributions Ubuntu). Sinon tu peux utiliser les backports de debian, Krita est en version 2.8.5 (mais pas la dernière version 2.9) et blender est en version 2.72. Le 28 mars 2015 23:43, le pigeon le.pigeon.voyageur.dans.le.te...@openmailbox.org mailto:le.pigeon.voyageur.dans.le.te...@openmailbox.org a écrit : Bonjour, je viens d'installer Krita sur debian wheezy 64 mais je vois que la version dans les dépots n'est pas la dernière en date. Est ce que je peux faire ceci : Ubuntu / Linux Mint Use the following PPA: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install krita Note: Previous versions of Krita MUST be uninstalled. comme spécifié sur le site officiel, cependant c'est pour ubuntu... ___ Idem pour Blender, la version 2.74 devrait sortir sous peu et dans les dépots wheezy le paquet est la version 2.63a. On peu télécharger le dernier paquet sur le site mais j'aimerais le faire via apt-get. Comment faire, svp ? Merci pour vos réponses -- Belaid
Re: KW Promo windows 8.1
sérieusement pourquoi parler de merdows sur une mailing list open source debian . On 17/03/2015 18:21, Michel MOUNIER wrote: Le 17/03/2015 14:19, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : On Tuesday 17 March 2015 13:12:09 khaled Kw wrote: Bonjour promo du jour windows 8.1 64 a 76 euro office pro 2013 199 euros la quantite est limite bien entendu khaled 04 86 800 800 Même Windows + office pro à zéro€, ça nous intéresse pas. Bonjour, Perso j'avais compris qu'ils donnaient ces sommes là pour ceux qui les en débarrassait ... J'ai faux ou bien on peut demander plus ?? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5508aa3e.2040...@openmailbox.org
CUPS - Epson - printing fails with Printer not connected; will retry in 30 seconds...
Have just tried to install an Epson Stylus Photo 1270 under CUPS/Gutenprint and found that although the log messages from hotplug indicate that the printer is connected correctly, all print jobs stall with Printer not connected; will retry in 30 seconds... and the same message results from querying the printer with lpstat. It took quite a while on google to find a solution so I present here what worked in order to help others. # chmod a+rw /dev/usb/lp0 Add the line FileDevice yes to /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and restart CUPS Reinstall the printer from the CUPS web interface, specifying AppSocket for Device and using the device URI of file:/dev/usb/lp0 Printer then worked. HTH -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Pigeon's Nest - http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/ Lucy Pinder Television - http://www.lucy-pinder.tv/ GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[OT] Comcast, Verizon and Google censoring the internet?
Yeah, tin foil hats on... but SOMETHING weird is going on and I suspect this is the best place to find people who can tell me what. And after all my webserver does run Debian :-) I've been noticing some very strange activity in my webserver logs over the last few days. It only seems to happen to people using American ISPs, mostly Comcast and Verizon. What happens is I get a sequence of requests for all the images off the root page of my website http://pigeonsnest.co.uk - and only that site, it doesn't seem to be happening to any others. The requests come in the usual order corresponding to the order in which the HTML references them, and have the expected Referer: header of http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/ . But there is no request for the actual HTML page, only the images off it. Sometimes the sequence of requests for the images is immediately preceded - as in so close in time that the process forked to serve it gets the immediately preceding process ID - by a request for the HTML page which comes from an IP owned by Google. So it looks like Comcast, Verizon and some others are somehow proxying the requests for my HTML via some server owned by Google. And unlike a normal proxy, it caches the HTML for a long time but the images not at all. And it's not people reading the cached copy of my site from the Cached link on a google search. When people do that it is obvious from the Referer: headers. And I can't see any reason why ISPs would proxy the requests for the HTML and not the images unless they're doing some kind of content filtering or censorship on the HTML. How do I know that what Comcast/Verizon/etc customers are seeing is what I published? No doubt there will be several Comcast and Verizon customers reading this message so I hope some people will have some useful input. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Pigeon's Nest - http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/ Lucy Pinder Television - http://www.lucy-pinder.tv/ GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: usb to serial
The Linux kernel has support for these: http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/EvaluationKits/USB-Serial.htm -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Pigeon's Nest - http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/ Lucy Pinder Television - http://www.lucy-pinder.tv/ GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: growisofs not writing dual-layer DVDs on Philips PBDV1640P
On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 06:27:02PM +0100, Pigeon wrote: ...cdrecord doesn't work either: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/lpntv/dvd/tmp/lpntv-15.01$ cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=1,0,0 dvd.iso snip Sense Code: 0x72 Qual 0x01 (session fixation error writing lead-in) Fru 0x0 ...I have discovered that there is a firmware update for the PBDV1640P to sort this particular error. Perhaps if I apply that, I will then at least be able to use cdrecord. Only the manky swine have only published the updater as a Windoze app :-( So... Has anyone tried running the Philips DVD drive firmware updater under wine? If it works, great. If it doesn't work... nothing is any worse. But if it half works I'll probably end up with a DVD writer that no longer writes any kind of DVD. So I'd like to hear if anyone else has tried it before I experiment! -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Pigeon's Nest - http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/ Lucy Pinder Television - http://www.lucy-pinder.tv/ GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: growisofs not writing dual-layer DVDs on Philips PBDV1640P
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 10:39:52AM +1000, Rich Healey wrote: Pigeon wrote: ...cdrecord doesn't work either: Do you run X? If yes, for experiments sake try K3b? It's never failed to burn a DVD for me. Thanks for the suggestion, but k3b is simply a very friendly graphical front end. Underneath, it's still using growisofs to write the DVD, and therefore doesn't work. Brasero doesn't work either for the same reason. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons- -Pigeon's Nest: http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/ GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: remove /boot by mistake, /,/usr and /home on partitions with LVM and crypt
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 05:21:08PM +0800, Yahong Chen wrote: I tried to make a new installation of basic Debian/Linux system on another hard disk and attached the hard disk which the broken system on as a mobile hard disk (use USB line). The sub-directories and files of /boot of the new system were copied to the corresponding place of old one and reinstalled GRUB on the hard disk and modified device.map and menu.1st. That won't work, you need to regenerate an initrd that matches the system you're trying to boot with it. Boot the broken system in rescue mode, chroot to it and reinstall the kernel, that should do it. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Pigeon's Nest - http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/ Lucy Pinder Television - http://www.lucy-pinder.tv/ GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
growisofs not writing dual-layer DVDs on Philips PBDV1640P
Trying to write a dual-layer DVD on a Philips PBDV1640P fails to start the second layer. It writes the first layer fine and then fails with :-[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with SK=0h/ASC=00h/ACQ=02h]: Input/output error :-( write failed: Input/output error Google not only fails to find any helpful results, it hardly finds any results at all. And with dual layer blanks costing 2 quid each experimenting with this is going to get very expensive. -use-the-force-luke=dummy doesn't work, either. It still writes to the DVD so I can't use that to experiment. Anyone know if I have any software options or do I have to bite the bullet and buy a new DVD writer? -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Pigeon's Nest - http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/ Lucy Pinder Television - http://www.lucy-pinder.tv/ GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: growisofs not writing dual-layer DVDs on Philips PBDV1640P
...cdrecord doesn't work either: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/lpntv/dvd/tmp/lpntv-15.01$ cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=1,0,0 dvd.iso cdrecord: No write mode specified. cdrecord: Asuming -sao mode. cdrecord: If your drive does not accept -sao, try -tao. cdrecord: Future versions of cdrecord may have different drive dependent defaults. Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 2.01.01a33 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2007 J???g Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: '1,0,0' scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.5.34 Using libscg version 'schily-0.9'. SCSI buffer size: 64512 atapi: 1 Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 5 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : Vendor_info: 'PHILIPS ' Identifikation : 'PBDV1640P ' Revision : 'B3.4' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW/DVD-RAM. Current: DVD+R/DL Profile: DVD+R/DL (current) Profile: DVD+R Profile: DVD+RW Profile: DVD-RW sequential recording Profile: DVD-R sequential recording Profile: DVD-ROM Profile: CD-RW Profile: CD-R Profile: CD-ROM Using generic SCSI-3/mmc-3 DVD+R driver (mmc_dvdplusr). Driver flags : NO-CD DVD MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: PACKET SAO Drive buf size : 688128 = 672 KB FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB Track 01: data 8099 MB Total size: 8099 MB = 4147065 sectors Current Secsize: 2048 Blocks total: 4173824 Blocks current: 4173824 Blocks remaining: 26759 Starting to write CD/DVD/BD at speed 2 in real SAO mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write0 seconds. Operation starts. Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. Starting new track at sector: 0 Track 01:0 of 8099 MB written.cdrecord: Input/output error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 2A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1F 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 72 01 00 00 Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x72 Qual 0x01 (session fixation error writing lead-in) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 13.206s timeout 100s write track data: error after 0 bytes cdrecord: A write error occured. cdrecord: Please properly read the error message above. Writing time: 18.241s Average write speed 336.2x. Fixating... cdrecord: Input/output error. close track/session: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 5B 01 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 24 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x24 Qual 0x00 (invalid field in cdb) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 0.002s timeout 1000s cdrecord: Input/output error. close track/session: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 5B 01 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 24 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x24 Qual 0x00 (invalid field in cdb) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 0.002s timeout 1000s cmd finished after 0.002s timeout 1000s Trouble closing the last session Fixating time:0.008s cdrecord: fifo had 64 puts and 1 gets. cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 0 times full, min fill was 100%. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Pigeon's Nest - http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/ Lucy Pinder Television - http://www.lucy-pinder.tv/ GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Backup system drive copy won't boot GRUB
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 05:54:34PM -0400, Brett Charbeneau wrote: I'd be grateful for any help anyone can find time to give! I'm getting ready to upgrade my system from sarge to etch. I boot from an IDE drive and keep /home and /var on SCSI disk. My sarge install is presently using the 2.6.8-4-686-smp linux-image. Before I get into the actual upgrade I wanted to make a backup of the system drive. I've made the backup copy of the system drive using (cd / tar clf - .)|(cd /mnt/hde2 tar xfp -) (cd /boot tar clf - .)|(cd /mnt/hde1 tar xfp -) the target hard drive being attached to a PCI IDE card which makes it hde in this situation. When I move this drive the primary master and try to boot from this target drive the grub menu comes up and it starts but I get this a pivot_root error: pivot_root: No such file or directory /sbin/init: 432: cannot open dev/console: No such file Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init! Things I've tried: 1. Checking to see if /dev/console exists and has the right permissions, it does: #ls -al /dev/console crw--- 1 root tty 5, 1 Apr 14 14:59 /dev/console 2. Booting from a Debian 4 CD in rescue mode, mounting hda1 (/boot) and hda2 (/) on /mnt, chrooting to this and trying #grub-install /dev/hda /dev/hda: Not found or not a block device 3. Same as two but with these additional commands: #mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev #mount -o bind -t proc /proc /mnt/proc #grub-install /dev/hda /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc does not have and corresponding BIOS drive. 4. Same as three but editing the (hd0) line in /boot/grub/device.map (hd0) /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc lots of grub output but ends in Error 22: No such partition 4. Same as three but going through the grub shell grub root (hd0,0) setup (hd) says it finishes successfully but a reboot results in the root_pivot error again. fstab and mtab are identical to the functioning drive. The only e2labels on the backup drive are appropriately / and /boot. I'm stumped - can anyone suggest anything else? Boot in rescue mode, chroot to the backup drive and reinstall the kernel...? I'm suspecting you need to update your initrd. I've had similar problems and that was the missing link. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Pigeon's Nest - http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/ Lucy Pinder Television - http://www.lucy-pinder.tv/ GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
adduser / chfn asking for root password
When I try to add a new user, adduser is calling chfn in such a way as to cause chfn to ask for the root password. Output from adduser looks like this: # adduser test Adding user test' ... Adding new group test' (1010) ... Adding new user test' (1010) with group test' ... The home directory /home/test' already exists. Not copying from /etc/skel'. Enter new UNIX password: (password for test supplied) Retype new UNIX password: (password for test reentered) passwd: password updated successfully Password: (root password supplied) Changing the user information for test Enter the new value, or press ENTER for the default Full Name []: Room Number []: Work Phone []: Home Phone []: Other []: Is the information correct? [y/N] y # If I don't enter the root password I get this: # adduser test Adding user test' ... Adding new group test' (1010) ... Adding new user test' (1010) with group test' ... The home directory /home/test' already exists. Not copying from /etc/skel'. Enter new UNIX password: (password for test supplied) Retype new UNIX password: (password for test reentered) passwd: password updated successfully Password: (null password, or any password other than root, supplied) chfn: PAM authentication failed adduser: /usr/bin/chfn test' returned error code 1. Exiting. # 'ps ax' while waiting at the anomalous password prompt shows that chfn is waiting. adduser version: 3.102, passwd 1:4.0.18.1-7, perl: 5.8.8-7etch1 -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons- -Pigeon's Nest: http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/ GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Dell PowerEdge 2950 server with PERC 5/i RAID controller
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 11:31:26AM +0100, Samuel Krieg wrote: Maarten Vink a ?crit : Apart from that omreport will also give you information on fan speeds, temperature, installed hardware, etc. It also installs an SNMP agent that allows you to monitor RAID status, fan speeds, temperature, etc via SNMP. The SNMP agent is disabled by default, but is easy to setup. We use this both for monitoring and to graph fan speeds and temperature with cacit. For more useful info on using Debian on Dell hardware see http://linux.dell.com/debian_9g.shtml Hello, These packages look very intersting but I'm still using Sarge (kmuto.jp kernel) on my Poweredge boxes. Do you know if this repository will work on Sarge? It doesn't work with 2.4 kernels :-( -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons- -Pigeon's Nest: http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/ GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
cups/etch: 426 Upgrade Required: Encryption Never in cupsd.conf ignored
Since upgrading my print server to etch I can no longer access the cups web interface from a non-local browser. Accessing it from localhost works fine but from any other machine I get 426 Upgrade Required followed by fatal error 40 when it tries to reconnect using https. This is despite having the following in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf: Location / Encryption Never Order Deny,Allow Deny From All Allow From 127.0.0.1 Allow From 192.168.1.* /Location Why is it ignoring Encryption Never for machines on the local network but honouring it for localhost? -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons- -Pigeon's Nest: http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/ GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
xorg/etch - reload ZAxisMapping on the fly?
My xorg installation has developed an infuriating habit of freaking out its ZAxisMapping after it's been running for a day or two. It doesn't lose the mapping entirely, but just reassigns it. The result is that my vertical scroll wheel becomes a horizontal scroll wheel, and my horizontal scroll wheel becomes a double-speed horizontal scroll wheel. It's an absolute pain in the arse because it seems the only way to get it working again is to restart the X server, which of course means I lose all my state in the open applications. However the fact that the X server manages to screw itself up on the fly without restarting itself does tend to suggest that there might be a way to make it unscrew itself without restarting, if only I knew what it was. Trying to change the mouse behaviour with kcontrol or gnome-control-center doesn't do anything (and in any case neither of those appears to know about mice with more than one scroll wheel anyway). Anyone any ideas? -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons- -Pigeon's Nest: http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/ GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Scroll wheels not working after upgrade to etch/xorg
Hmmm, we still have a wrinkle... Every so often the X server loses its Z axis mapping settings on the fly. The result is that instead of the left hand scroll wheel mapping to the up and down cursor keys and the right hand scroll wheel to the left and right keys, as desired, the left hand scroll wheel suddenly decides that it's going to be mapped to double presses of the left and right cursor keys. The result is that I get two speeds of scrolling left and right, but I can't scroll up and down any more. This is an absolute pain, because it seems the only way to reset it to normal is to restart the X server. Which of course means I have to restart all my applications and lose all my state. Anyone else observed this? -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons- -Pigeon's Nest: http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/ GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Scroll wheels not working after upgrade to etch/xorg
On doing a dist-upgrade which pulled in xorg I found my scroll wheels were no longer working. Either they did nothing at all or they simulated the press of some unknown key on the keyboard and activated all manner of keyboard shortcuts that I didn't know existed. The scroll wheels were still generating events, but not the right ones any more. Google merely turned up a few other baffled people with a similar problem. The solution turned out to be to include Option Emulate3Buttons off in xorg.conf. The existing xorg.conf simply had the Emulate3Buttons line commented out, and it seems from the log file that xorg was defaulting to enabling Emulate3Buttons. Explicitly disabling Emulate3Buttons got my scroll wheels working again. I hope someone somewhere finds this useful. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons- -Pigeon's Nest: http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/ GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Forcing Postfix SMTP client to use AUTH LOGIN
I am trying to get Postfix (2.3) to relay mail via an upstream server running exim 4.60. The exim server requires SMTP AUTH and in response to EHLO advertises that it supports both AUTH PLAIN and AUTH LOGIN. However, it is broken. AUTH PLAIN doesn't work, only AUTH LOGIN works. I have verified this both by setting up kmail to send via the exim host and by logging in by hand using telnet. In both cases, the exim server refuses to accept the username and password sent via AUTH PLAIN, but happily accepts the same username and password with AUTH LOGIN. However I do not seem to be able to tell postfix to use AUTH LOGIN. I have mech_list: LOGIN in smtpd.conf but the log files reveal that it is still using AUTH PLAIN. How do I force postfix to use AUTH LOGIN when it seems determined to ignore my smtpd.conf? -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons- -Pigeon's Nest: http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/ GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Forcing Postfix SMTP client to use AUTH LOGIN
On Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 05:34:59PM +0100, Pigeon wrote: I am trying to get Postfix (2.3) to relay mail via an upstream server running exim 4.60. The exim server requires SMTP AUTH and in response to EHLO advertises that it supports both AUTH PLAIN and AUTH LOGIN. However, it is broken. AUTH PLAIN doesn't work, only AUTH LOGIN works. I have verified this both by setting up kmail to send via the exim host and by logging in by hand using telnet. In both cases, the exim server refuses to accept the username and password sent via AUTH PLAIN, but happily accepts the same username and password with AUTH LOGIN. However I do not seem to be able to tell postfix to use AUTH LOGIN. I have mech_list: LOGIN in smtpd.conf but the log files reveal that it is still using AUTH PLAIN. How do I force postfix to use AUTH LOGIN when it seems determined to ignore my smtpd.conf? Doh! It's like waiting for a bus, as soon as you give up patience and light a cigarette, along comes the bus. Or in this case, the useful google hit. The answer is to include smtp_sasl_mechanism_filter = !plain, static:rest in /etc/postfix/main.cf -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons- -Pigeon's Nest: http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/ GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Forcing Postfix SMTP client to use AUTH LOGIN
On Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 12:57:54PM -0400, Allan Wind wrote: On 2007-07-01T17:34:59+0100, Pigeon wrote: How do I force postfix to use AUTH LOGIN when it seems determined to ignore my smtpd.conf? All paths relative to /etc/postfix. Ensure you have something like this in main.cf: smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtp_sasl_mechanism_filter = login smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_password and an entry for the remote server in sasl_password. My requirement is that mail is relayed via localhost:1025 (and $USER, $PASSWORD replaced with actual values) and just telling you so you have an example: [127.0.0.1]:1025 $USER:$PASSWORD Thanks... it was smtp_sasl_mechanism_filter that was the key, I already had the rest of SMTP AUTH working for non-broken hosts. Having searched Google for fruitless hours I asked the list and then Google produced five minutes later... Sod's law strikes again... but thanks anyway! -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons- -Pigeon's Nest: http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/ GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Macromedia Flash Video
On Fri, Jul 06, 2007 at 11:19:53PM +0300, gustavo halperin wrote: Andrew J. Barr wrote: Do you want to play .swf files or .flv files using the Macromedia Ye, I'm talking about .flv videos. A standalone Linux player exists, it's on Adobe Labs' site somewhere. This players are also for .flv videos or just for .swf files ? Don't know about the Adobe one but ffplay plays .flv - or you can recode them to a sane format: ffmpeg -i foo.flv -sameq foo.saneformat Note that I have all the unofficial codec packages from www.debian-multimedia.org installed. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons- -Pigeon's Nest: http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/ GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Converting anaglyph (red/blue) 3D images to normal 2D
I have only one functioning eye, and so cannot see the 3D effect in anaglyphic 3D images whether I wear the red/blue glasses or not. To me, an anaglyphic image is a potentially nice photograph which is ruined by dirty great red and blue edges on everything. It must surely be possible to process these images in such a way as to generate a normal full-colour 2D image from them. Can anyone point me at some Debian-compatible software capable of doing this? A package (apt-cache search anaglyph reveals nothing), a GIMP plugin, anything? TIA... -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons- -Pigeon's Nest: http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/ GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Loading /tmp/kmap/blankmap
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 05:38:46PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2006-12-05 01:37:50, schrieb Pigeon: Anyone here seen this? Do you have tried: cd / grep --recursive kmap/blankmap * 2/dev/null And wait some time... ...That is what I eventually did, and it made me feel really stupid. Turns out it was a relic of some hacking I did years ago connected with getting the machine to accept keyboard input from a keyboard attached to a different machine (while still directing output to the local display, so ssh etc. wouldn't do the trick). It had lain dormant for years while I totally forgot about its existence, then suddenly awoke and freaked my forgetful mind out... -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons- -Pigeon's Nest: http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/ GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: postfix relay smtp authentication
On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 12:13:26AM +0100, Martin Fuzzey wrote: I've tried similarly patching the etch version of postfix - I can build the package but it won't install due to an unsatisified dependency on lsb_base ( 3.0.6) Get the backport of lsb_base off backports.org. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons- -Pigeon's Nest: http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/ GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Loading /tmp/kmap/blankmap
One of my sarge boxes has now twice done the same extremely weird thing. I'm using a text console and up pops output from /bin/loadkeys: Loading /tmp/kmap/blankmap. The keyboard then ceases to respond apart from allowing me to switch VTs. X is still fine so I can reactivate the keyboard by loading /etc/console/default.kmap.gz from an xterm. In /tmp I find a directory kmap containing two files, blankmap containing the keyboard-cabbaging map (attached) and origmap containing output from /usr/bin/dumpkeys describing the original map (/etc/console/default.kmap.gz). Directory and files are owned by root and are world-readable. They were created immediately before the blank map was loaded. There's nothing in /var/log/syslog at the time the files were written. chkrootkit and rkhunter return clean results. The second time it happened (today) I was ssh-ing to a remote machine. The first time was a while back now and I can't remember what I was doing. Google finds no references to the two files. Anyone here seen this? -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons- -Pigeon's Nest: http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/ Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F keycode 56 = Alt keycode 100 = Alt keycode 29 = Control keycode 97 = Control keycode 1 = VoidSymbol keycode 2 = VoidSymbol keycode 3 = VoidSymbol keycode 4 = VoidSymbol keycode 5 = VoidSymbol keycode 6 = VoidSymbol keycode 7 = VoidSymbol keycode 8 = VoidSymbol keycode 9 = VoidSymbol keycode 10 = VoidSymbol keycode 11 = VoidSymbol keycode 12 = VoidSymbol keycode 13 = VoidSymbol keycode 14 = VoidSymbol keycode 15 = VoidSymbol keycode 16 = VoidSymbol keycode 17 = VoidSymbol keycode 18 = VoidSymbol keycode 19 = VoidSymbol keycode 20 = VoidSymbol keycode 21 = VoidSymbol keycode 22 = VoidSymbol keycode 23 = VoidSymbol keycode 24 = VoidSymbol keycode 25 = VoidSymbol keycode 26 = VoidSymbol keycode 27 = VoidSymbol keycode 28 = VoidSymbol keycode 30 = VoidSymbol keycode 31 = VoidSymbol keycode 32 = VoidSymbol keycode 33 = VoidSymbol keycode 34 = VoidSymbol keycode 35 = VoidSymbol keycode 36 = VoidSymbol keycode 37 = VoidSymbol keycode 38 = VoidSymbol keycode 39 = VoidSymbol keycode 40 = VoidSymbol keycode 41 = VoidSymbol keycode 42 = VoidSymbol keycode 43 = VoidSymbol keycode 44 = VoidSymbol keycode 45 = VoidSymbol keycode 46 = VoidSymbol keycode 47 = VoidSymbol keycode 48 = VoidSymbol keycode 49 = VoidSymbol keycode 50 = VoidSymbol keycode 51 = VoidSymbol keycode 52 = VoidSymbol keycode 53 = VoidSymbol keycode 54 = VoidSymbol keycode 55 = VoidSymbol keycode 57 = VoidSymbol keycode 58 = VoidSymbol keycode 59 = VoidSymbol keycode 60 = VoidSymbol keycode 61 = VoidSymbol keycode 62 = VoidSymbol keycode 63 = VoidSymbol keycode 64 = VoidSymbol keycode 65 = VoidSymbol keycode 66 = VoidSymbol keycode 67 = VoidSymbol keycode 68 = VoidSymbol keycode 69 = VoidSymbol keycode 70 = VoidSymbol keycode 71 = VoidSymbol keycode 72 = VoidSymbol keycode 73 = VoidSymbol keycode 74 = VoidSymbol keycode 75 = VoidSymbol keycode 76 = VoidSymbol keycode 77 = VoidSymbol keycode 78 = VoidSymbol keycode 79 = VoidSymbol keycode 80 = VoidSymbol keycode 81 = VoidSymbol keycode 82 = VoidSymbol keycode 83 = VoidSymbol keycode 84 = VoidSymbol keycode 85 = VoidSymbol keycode 86 = VoidSymbol keycode 87 = VoidSymbol keycode 88 = VoidSymbol keycode 89 = VoidSymbol keycode 90 = VoidSymbol keycode 91 = VoidSymbol keycode 92 = VoidSymbol keycode 93 = VoidSymbol keycode 94 = VoidSymbol keycode 95 = VoidSymbol keycode 96 = VoidSymbol keycode 98 = VoidSymbol keycode 99 = VoidSymbol keycode 101 = VoidSymbol keycode 102 = VoidSymbol keycode 103 = VoidSymbol keycode 104 = VoidSymbol keycode 105 = VoidSymbol keycode 106 = VoidSymbol keycode 107 = VoidSymbol keycode 108 = VoidSymbol keycode 109 = VoidSymbol keycode 110 = VoidSymbol keycode 111 = VoidSymbol keycode 112 = VoidSymbol keycode 113 = VoidSymbol keycode 114 = VoidSymbol keycode 115 = VoidSymbol keycode 116 = VoidSymbol keycode 117 = VoidSymbol keycode 118 = VoidSymbol keycode 119 = VoidSymbol keycode 120 = VoidSymbol keycode 121 = VoidSymbol keycode 122 = VoidSymbol keycode 123 = VoidSymbol keycode 124 = VoidSymbol keycode 125 = VoidSymbol keycode 126 = VoidSymbol keycode 127 = VoidSymbol alt keycode 59 = Console_1 control alt keycode 59 = Console_1 alt keycode 60 = Console_2 control alt keycode 60 = Console_2 alt keycode 61 = Console_3 control alt keycode 61
Upgrading from woody to sarge: niggles and solutions
Many thanks to the Debian team for the release of sarge as stable. I have now belatedly got round to dist-upgrading, which mostly went smoothly. I did however come across a few problems: 1) Home, End etc. keys not working in jed 2) GTK apps failing to start with relocation error: libXft.so.2: undefined symbol: XRenderQuerySubpixelOrder 3) VT switching with Ctrl-Alt-Fn stopped working 4) X applications developed big ugly font syndrome Google failed to find solutions to 1, 2 and 3, though I managed to fix them eventually. 4 required reference to several documents. I have therefore written up my solutions here: http://pigeon.dyndns.org/stuff/sarge/index.html -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: ide-scsi is deprecated for cd burning!
On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 04:47:46AM +, Pigeon wrote: On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 12:33:51PM -0800, James Vahn wrote: Pigeon wrote: James Vahn wrote: I'm using a vanilla kernel-2.6.10 and have CDR_DEVICE=ATAPI:0,0,0 defined in /etc/default/cdrecord. The K3B icon has been modified to use sudo k3b under the icon propertiesapplicationcommand. I thought this was only the case with kernels from 2.6.[78] on? I've deliberately stayed with 2.6.6 in order to avoid it. I'll give it a shot next time I have a CD to burn, but AFAICT it's a solution to a different problem. Could be, but the problem to me sounds like the early 2.6 kernels. Upgrade to .10, drop the use of ide-scsi, and drop the suid bit. Try sudo and the ATAPI: device instead. It worked a treat for me, the lockups and bad burns of 2.6.x are no longer a problem. OK, it's certainly worth a shot... though I notice that Sigve Indregard, in the thread CD recording, is having the same kind of problems as me, with an identical CD writer to mine, and 2.6.8. My suspicion is it's something funny about that model of drive (CyberDrive CW088D). Standardisation doesn't seem to be all it could be where CD writers are concerned. OK, a belated follow-up to this... I upgraded to 2.6.10, and tried many combinations of dropping the suid bit and using dev=ATAPI:x,y,z, dev=ATA:x,y,z and dev=/dev/hdx. Nothing worked. I still got the same flood of errors and lockups. Though for some odd reason, cdrdao carried on working all through. Extensive googling revealed about three people who also had a CyberDrive CW-088D and they couldn't get it to work either (though apparently the CW-058D does work). A couple of days ago, the drive ceased to make good recordings - the burn process (using cdrdao) would complete normally, but reading the disk back produced input/output errors after an undefined but large number of sectors had been read. Reading the disk with a different drive produced the same result. I replaced it with a Philips PBDV1640B CD/DVD writer, and without any software upgrades cdrecord started working again (using dev=/dev/hdx and not suid). (Result for CDs; I haven't tried burning DVDs yet.) I have written http://pigeon.dyndns.org/stuff/cw088d.html in the hope that it will help others avoid finding out the hard way that the CW-088D is buggy. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: CD recording
On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 06:48:06PM +, Pigeon wrote: On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 12:34:14AM +0100, Sigve Indregard wrote: Hello everyone, I'm posting this to debian-user partially because everyone in the CD recording department seem a little upset these days, and partially because I suspect that my problem involves quite a few different components. Since 2.6.8, I've been unable to burn CDs. Nothing new here, we've all heard of the famous root/non-root issue that appeared with 2.6.8. Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to be my issue, because I can't burn CDs as root either. snip Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'CyberDrv' Identifikation : 'CW088D CD-R/RW ' What a coincidence, I've got one of those. It gives me the same problems as you're getting. It gives me similar - not the same but just as awkward and system-hang-ogenic - if I try and use it in ide-scsi mode. I'm using the same version of cdrecord. Not the same kernel though. I stayed with 2.6.6 in an unsuccessful attempt to avoid such things. Update: I've just ditched my CW-088D. The replacement (Philips PBDV1640B CD/DVD writer) works fine (for CDs; haven't tried DVDs) on 2.6.10 with cdrecord with the suid bit unset and dev=/dev/hdx. Conclusion: the CW-088D has a bug. http://pigeon.dyndns.org/stuff/cw088d.html -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Can't burn CDs since kernel 2.6.7 - am I the only one?
On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 04:28:22AM +0200, Vincent Panel wrote: I'm not part of the debian-user list, and found this (old) thread on the web archive. I have exactly the same problem than Alan Chandler : I can't burn unless I switch to 2.4 kernel (I own a CW078D CD-R/RW drive). It is coincidental that you have brought this back into focus on the same day that I sorted my version of the same problem and put up a web page about it. http://pigeon.dyndns.org/stuff/cw088d.html It looks like the CW-078D model has a similar bug to the CW-088D model which I could not burn with under 2.6. Floods of errors and lockups. The details varied according to which permutation of incantations I used but the result was the same: hit the reset button and thank the Lord for ext3. Strangely, though cdrecord was unusable, cdrdao worked fine, so at the cost of having to mess about with toc files I could still burn CDs. The solution, which was forced on me by the drive deciding that the CDs it burnt would no longer be readable, was to get a different model of drive. - Using kernel 2.4 you can only burn ONCE !! But not precisely the same bug, because the CW-088D works fine under 2.4 and you can burn as many times as you want. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: No Sound On My System
On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 05:13:21PM -0500, Shawn McCuan wrote: I have a C-Media soundcard. (I dont remember the model number, but, its not more than 3 years old) Probably uses the cmpci module. modprobe cmpci -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: X running without monitor (may be w/o videocard)
On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 08:40:57AM -0500, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: How do you set up X to run in a machine without monitor, or even may be without video card? About this last one I am not sure. A hosted server, to forward X through ssh you still need X there. You need xfree86-common installed on the remote machine and X11 forwarding enabled in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Installing Development Headers
On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 03:59:03PM -0500, Jeremy Brown wrote: Jeremy Brown wrote: Is there any script or command in Debian that will install development header subpackages for all of the packages on my system? If you'd like to compile software above and beyond what is shipped with Debian, I've found that you end up manually searching for -dev packages for each piece of software your from-source software might possibly depend on. Jeremy Just re-checking because I hadn't gotten a response. Anyone know how to do this? How about: for x in `dpkg --get-selections | cut -f 1 | grep lib | grep -v dev`; do apt-cache show $x'-dev' /dev/null 21 apt-get install -y $x'-dev'; done -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Antivirus/Antispyware/Antiadware for linux?
On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 12:14:03AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: But it sure is useful to be able to have people on duty 24x365, to update virus-signature files in hours, rather than days. When would it be days? I've seen the clamav db update in hours. In fact in the past 2 months (and change) it has been updated 117 times. That's more than once a day. Yes. The default config file for freshclam has it checking for updates every 12 hours. It strikes me that there must be a good reason for such a frequent update interval. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Disabling access to SSH
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 06:12:34PM +0900, Nick Hastings wrote: Deny everything (except what you explicitly allow in hosts.allow) # hosts.deny ALL: ALL # hosts.allow ssh: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy Alternatively to allow everyone on your local network (assuming the standard 192.168 setup), you could do something like # hosts.allow ssh: 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0 Should those entries not be sshd instead of ssh? -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Choosing a flavor of Debian? -- bf2.4 HOW???
On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 10:51:55PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Choosing a flavor of Debian: BF2.4 In the installation for Debian Woody it recommended that you use bf2.4 if you have a usb keyboard and mouse. This fits my hardware configuration perfectly. My question is this: I downloaded US Disc #1. Is this the right disc to use bf2.4 installation method? If so what do I do? If not, what is the appropriate disc to get? Should do the trick. Just enter bf24 at the boot: prompt. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian and spam
On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 12:15:29PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: William Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Including nospam in your email name helps a lot. http://www.interhack.net/pubs/munging-harmful/ Sure, but I don't think this is a munge - I understood his post to mean that [EMAIL PROTECTED] was actually his real email address, but the presence of the nospam bit fools [some] automated address-harvesting tools into either ignoring it, or perhaps removing the nospam bit which then results in an invalid address. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: OT: Re: why debian
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 04:45:17PM +0700, Eddy Jacob wrote: On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:33:54 +0100, Andrea Vettorello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://beta.search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=best+operating+system and for sure i trust them... =) Andrea Surprise Windows is not the first one on the results :) Try changing the query to worst operating system... -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: ppp dynamic dns need /etc/resolv.conf to work, a bug?
On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 01:15:00PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: Pigeon writes: Also worth checking /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/000usepeerdns which ought to be detecting that you've used pppconfig and leaving all the work to .../0-dns-up. Here is usepeerdns-up: snip Ah, things have changed. I was thinking of 000usepeerdns on woody, which begins: #!/bin/sh # usepeerdns by Eduard Bloch, 12 Sep 2001. # pppconfig is installed, it will do the job test -f /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/0dns-up -a -f /usr/sbin/pppconfig exit 0 -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: su : must be run from a terminal
On Wed, Nov 03, 2004 at 03:09:35PM -0800, Gilbert, Joseph wrote: There are two other standard ways to have scripts run with root privileges. 1) For automated tasks, schedule it in root's crontab. 'man crontab' for more info 2) Use setuid for scripts or programs that are to be run by users who need root perms to perform a specific task programmed into that script. You need to think about security on this one though. See 'man setuid' and 'man chmod' for more info. Setuid doesn't work on scripts. You have to make the shell that runs the script setuid... which you REALLY DON'T want to do! -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: ppp dynamic dns need /etc/resolv.conf to work, a bug?
On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 03:03:00PM +, Paul Dufresne wrote: I use a dialup modem to connect to Internet. I use pppconfig to configured my provider connection. In advanced setting, nameservers, I have chosen dynamic. But I need to use /etc/resolv.conf with a nameserver line to be able to use Internet. I had forgotten this for a long time, but a recent update (I had this problem even with stable, but now I use testing, with a bit of unstable for mono), have made my /etc/resolv.conf become an empty file, and I had to refill it with nameserver lines. I guess I was expecting this to be an obvious bug, that most people would know and that would be fixed fastly. But now, I wonder. I have just check in the bugs for ppp package, and this don't seem to be there. I would expect /etc/resolv.conf to have no effect at all, since I can see in the logs that my ISP does indeed return DNS information (that's where I took it to fill my /etc/resolv.conf file), and my provider setting is indeed on dynamic. What should I do with this? If I should fill a bug report, what is the best package to fill it on? Choosing dynamic nameservers in pppconfig should mean that you automatically get a new resolv.conf written when the connection comes up. This is done by the script /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/0dns-up which you can follow through and check that it is in fact possible to do what the script wants to do. Also worth checking /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/000usepeerdns which ought to be detecting that you've used pppconfig and leaving all the work to .../0-dns-up. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Setting samplerate on /dev/dsp
On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 07:55:15PM +, ognjen Bezanov wrote: Hi all, while not technically debian related it has something to do with linux. I want to capture data from my /dev/dsp device but the devices defaults are 8bit mono sound, i want to know how to set the samplerate and mono/stereo from the command line, a google search showed me only how to do it in C++ (using ioctl). is it possible? if not is there are program out there which would let me set the samplerate before capture? Digging around in some of my old experimental stuff reveals this little C program which seems to be for providing access to that ioctl from the command line. Compile with gcc fmts.c -o fmts (or whatever else you want to call it). You need to know the hex codes for the format you want, which your google search probably told you; if it didn't have a poke through the kernel source and /usr/include/linux. Disclaimer: it's a long time since I was fiddling with this and I can't remember whether it actually works or not. I think it did though :-) -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F #include stdio.h #include stdlib.h #include string.h #include sys/errno.h #include fcntl.h #include sys/ioctl.h #include linux/soundcard.h int dsp_fd; FILE *f; int dsp_init(void) { int i,value; f=fopen(/dev/dsp,w+); if(f==NULL){ perror(File I/O); return 0; } dsp_fd=i=fileno(f); return 1; } int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { int x, y; if (dsp_init()==0) { fprintf(stderr,Can't open dsp\n); exit(1); } x=0; y=ioctl(dsp_fd,SNDCTL_DSP_GETFMTS,x); printf(ioctl returned %d, x is %08X\n,y,x); x=0; y=ioctl(dsp_fd,SNDCTL_DSP_SETFMT,x); printf(ioctl returned %d, current format is %08X\n,y,x); if (argc==2) { if (sscanf(argv[1],%08x,x)==1) { printf(Attempting to set format %08X... ,x); y=ioctl(dsp_fd,SNDCTL_DSP_SETFMT,x); printf(ioctl returned %d, new format is %08X\n,y,x); } } fclose(f); exit(0); } signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Unidentified subject!
On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 02:02:59PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I'm a Linux newbie. Been trying RedHat, Fedora, Mandrake distros and finally thought of something more serious so here I am. So far I was used to go for an Ext3 filesystem for my 'root' and 'home' partitions. Very convenient, as I don't know a lot about the other exotic filesystems available with Linux. But here, installing a very freshly downloaded set of Debian cd's, the installer did not offer me the 'EXT3' choice. The best I could get was 'EXT2'. How comes ? By the way I find it kind of awkward that the default kernel offered by Debian is a 2.2 (a pain in the arse if you think about setting up a sound device, as Alsa is not included). Could anyone enlighten me with some explanation ? If you enter bf24 at the boot: prompt it'll boot the installer using kernel 2.4.18 with ext3 support as a module. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Deciphering the output from tcpflow?
On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 07:11:43PM -0500, Robert Tilley wrote: To discover the identity of the process sending unknown traffic on eth0, it was suggested that I run tcpflow. The result and another question follows: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/tilleyrw/tcpflow-dumps# ls -S 065.032.005.052.00110-192.168.001.103.33847 065.032.005.052.00110-192.168.001.103.33846 192.168.001.103.33846-065.032.005.052.00110 192.168.001.103.33847-065.032.005.052.00110 Now that I know the specifics of From and To about the traffic, how does that help me in terms of identifying the offending process IDs? You're talking to port 110 (POP3) on pop-server2.cfl.rr.com... look for POP3 clients? -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: annoying mutt problem
On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 12:45:17AM -0700, Sean wrote: After fetching my mail from my isp's pop server, mutt usually only displays the first 10 or so messages. The others although fetched by fetchmail, don't display in my mailbox for a few minutes, according to mutt. If I have about 50 or so, I can quit mutt, and go back in to see all the messages. However if there are 200 or so, like today, it takes 2 or so minutes and quitting and restarting mutt before I see them all. What's appening here? Can I fix that? Sean Are you using exim for your MTA? Try exim -bp to see if they're stuck in the exim queue, and if so, increase the value of smtp_accept_queue_per_connection in /etc/exim/exim.conf. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: kernel-source and kernel-header?
On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 11:22:33PM +0800, lianliming wrote: Hi all, i want to compile and install a new kernel. Using aptitude to search the kernel package, i find there are kernel-source and kernel-header packages. Should i install the both kernel source and header to install the new kernel? No, just the source. The header package is there so that you can compile stuff that includes kernel headers without having the full kernel source installed. Another interesting question: if i install kernel-source-2.6.8 and at the same time kernel-header-2.6.7, what will happen? It'll either complain or bugger things up :-) (Why would you want to?) -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: OT: Either not Eighther [Re: Ctrl+U in Firefox location bar]
On Sun, Oct 31, 2004 at 02:35:45PM -0500, William Ballard wrote: On Sun, Oct 31, 2004 at 07:59:50PM +0100, Joost Witteveen wrote: To fix (in firefox and all/many? other gnome apps), eighter run either pronounced EEE-thER or EYE-thER (soft th) not ether [the gas that puts you to sleep] pronounced ETHer (hard th) And no ether, eether. EYE-ther. :-) or eight (ATE) either is not pronounced as AY-ther, which is a latinate word aether, which is the fifth element (air, fire, water, earth, aether). I thought the fifth element was called Leeloo... -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Replacing root device on a running system
On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 03:42:10PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: Micha Feigin wrote: Is it possible to change the root device on a running linux system? Yes; use the pivot_root system call. I don't know of any command that provides access to that, though. /sbin/pivot_root :-) man 8 pivot_root -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: SCSI Disk/Controller advice please
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 12:01:43AM +0100, Joao Clemente wrote: Hi. For the first time I'm gonna setup a server with SCSI disks (until now I've done it only with IDE - regular ATA or SATA) I'm getting a completly new server (P4 3Ghz, Dual-Channel DDR 400, MB with intel chipset) and, while I have a good ideia on these components, I would like to setup a RAID-1 system with SCSI disks... I'm looking for advice on these: wich scsi controller should I buy? Software or Hardware RAID-1? Wich disk brand? (I'm getting a couple of 36GB, it is more than enough space for my setup) Adaptec are pretty good, though not the cheapest; widespread and well-supported. Would be my choice. Or Intel do some nice SCSI controllers with RAID. Tekram a bit mickey mouse IMO. Some Initio cards weren't supported in 2.6 last time I looked. Which are the tradeoffs of hard vs software raid1? What happens/How do we proceed if 1 disk fails (how do we know it, how do we replace/resync them?) Never used RAID, sorry. This server can be shutdown for maintenance at off-work hours, so I don't need any hot-plugging capability.. (this is a controller feature, right?) And the connector/mounting arrangements for the drives. SCA drives and some neat mechanism for sliding them in and locking them in. I'm quite confused about all the SCSI variations.. This is what I've found so far are somewhat like this: - SCSI disks, all Ultra320Wide: Seagate Cheetah 10K 68 pin,36Gb - 160 EUR Fujitsu 10K 68 pin,36Gb - 150 EUR Fujitsu10K SCA/80pin, 36Gb - 150 EUR Fujitsu 15K 68 pin,18Gb - 185 EUR Fujitsu15K SCA/80pin, 18Gb - 185 EUR Ok, no problem with these... any brand/model suggestions? Fujitsu. Model - that's your tradeoff of speed/capacity/price :-) - Controllers Several Adaptec SCSI Cards from 200 to 400 EUR, wich can have: - 32 or 64bit - 160MB or Ultra320 - Raid (or not, when they say nothing.. I think) (the RAID ones start at 400 EUR and I've seen up to 950 EUR) I'm confused... none of the descriptions of the Adaptec controller I've seen state the connectors (68/80 pins)... If it says SCA it will have 80 pins. Stick the type number of the card into Google and you'll find plenty of descriptions :-) now add more controller to the mess: Tekram PCI DC395UW - 56 EUR Tekram PCI DC390U2B - 102 EUR Tekram PCI DC390U2W Ultra 2 Low WIDE SCSI - 126 EUR Tekram PCI DC390U3W Ultra 3 WIDE SCSI 160 - 182 EUR Tekram PCI DC390U4W Ultra 4 WIDE SCSI 320 - 223 EUR Damn... Really confused... Please confirm these toughs also: UltraWideSCSI = 68 pin ... What is 2, 3 or 4 ?!? These seem similar to ATA 66/100/133 - the bus speed, is that it? Yeah, pretty much. People play silly games with the ultra names, so best to look behind the ultra bit at the actual bus speed - 160, 320 etc. (figures in MHz) So, what's SCA? None of these controllers says SCA... SCA puts the power and data connections down the same cable so you only have one plug on the drive, which is handy for hot-swap racks. Ps: I supose getting a SCSI crontroller built-in on the motherboard is stupid? Those are low-value/performance controllers? Not necessarily, but it severely limits your choice both of motherboard and of SCSI controller. Remember: Google is your friend :-) -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Managing Disk Quota with emails
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 10:41:15PM +0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have quota enabled for my users like /home/jed, which is working good. In ths same system sendmail is installed which stores emails like /var/spool/mail/jed . This way the users emails keep on comming with the junk and thats fills up my /var/spool/mail directory. Is there a way to mange this situation ?? plz suggest. Further can this be tackled if somehow the emails start getting stored in the users home directory like /home/jed/mail ?? if so then how can this be configured. If you're using exim as the MTA, change file = /var/spool/mail/${local_part} to file = /home/${local_part}/mail in the local_delivery transport description in /etc/exim/exim.conf. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Printing from Gimp
On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 09:38:49PM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote: Pigeon wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 01:30:07PM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote: Hi All, I have an HP OfficeJet 5500 set up to print through CUPS. I can get it to print from OpenOffice, from a browser, etc My problem is in getting it to print from Gimp. There are no gimpprint drivers available for the OJ 5500, at least I can't find any, and I have the 1.6.2 version of HPIJS installed, so I downloaded the correct .ppd file and set Gimp up to use the printer as a PostScript Level2 printer and browsed to the .ppd file and showed Gimp where it is. There is an activity bar that runs across the bottom of page showing Gimp getting ready to print, but nothing prints. The spooler never shows any print jobs and neither does the CUPS printer or print jobs page when connecting to it by browser. (All jobs except for the Gimp jobs show up here and print successfully) I am obviously configuring something wrong in Gimp, or I am missing a software component somewhere, but what? What print command is gimp using? I install cupsys-bsd and tell everything to print using lp (not lpr as many things default to). Gimp prints fine using this method (never tried any other method in fact). I installed the cupsys-bsd package and my results changed a little. Now the print job shows up in completed jobs in the CUPS admin page with a job name of (stdin) but nothing gets printed. The spooler icon shows up for about 5 seconds and then closes too. The printer command in the Gimp interface is lp -s -dPrinter_Name -oraw. Try just plain lp - that's all I use. Prints to the default printer. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: swap space size
On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 12:03:42AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: Gilbert, Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is an issue that I do not fully understand that I have always kind of taken for rote. I was told back when I first started working with Unix that the swap space needed to be at least twice the size of physical memory in order to ensure a stable system. Well, that used to be the rule of thumb for a Linux-specific problem with swap space. Today, you can run without swap without a problem. I keep a gig of swap on hand to avoid out of memory problems at all costs and have never hit that. A sane default today would be to set your swap size to at least the size of your current physical memory. I suggest using a swap space equivilent to the maximum amount of memory your board can support, though this is generally considered massive overkill given how cheap RAM is these days. Well, boards that can take 4G are common these days, but there's a limit of 2G on swap size (at least up to 2.4; don't know offhand if it's changed for 2.6). Beyond that you have to go to multiple swap partitions. I tend to allocate the maximum 2G because disk space is so cheap these days. I have used most of it on one occasion - running spice simulations, looking at the plots, tweaking something and running it again, repeat for ages, not realising that it was keeping all the old data from previous plots in memory. Since the simulation itself is pegged on CPU, it took me a long time to notice how slow it was getting :-) -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] Debian advocacy for Smart but Scared People With Lives
On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 04:48:51PM -0400, William Ballard wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 01:05:04PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: Actually, you did (but not deliberately). Knoppix (from at least this year) gets both up and running automagically. Get them the newest Knoppix, and next time you're over there to fix their Windows system again, throw Knoppix in and let them have at it. Not true: neither the soundcard nor the network card were detected automatically. I think his network card was a 3com 3c59x or some permutation of those letters. There's a common variety and a less common variety. I googled whatever it was plus +debian and found out some completely non-intuitive driver you could substitute for it, and why Knoppix didn't support it out of box. Never could quite figure out what the issue was with Alsa. Of course I could have set there and dinked with it until it worked, but that's what I told them they'd have to do and they don't want to do it. They're still stuck in that just run setup.exe from the vendor's website mindset. That's weird - that Knoppix has problems with 3Com network cards but boot-floppies can cope OK. I like these cards because they Just Work. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Printing from Gimp
On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 01:30:07PM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote: Hi All, I have an HP OfficeJet 5500 set up to print through CUPS. I can get it to print from OpenOffice, from a browser, etc My problem is in getting it to print from Gimp. There are no gimpprint drivers available for the OJ 5500, at least I can't find any, and I have the 1.6.2 version of HPIJS installed, so I downloaded the correct .ppd file and set Gimp up to use the printer as a PostScript Level2 printer and browsed to the .ppd file and showed Gimp where it is. There is an activity bar that runs across the bottom of page showing Gimp getting ready to print, but nothing prints. The spooler never shows any print jobs and neither does the CUPS printer or print jobs page when connecting to it by browser. (All jobs except for the Gimp jobs show up here and print successfully) I am obviously configuring something wrong in Gimp, or I am missing a software component somewhere, but what? What print command is gimp using? I install cupsys-bsd and tell everything to print using lp (not lpr as many things default to). Gimp prints fine using this method (never tried any other method in fact). -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Why Grub? Must I Switch?
On Mon, Oct 04, 2004 at 08:29:26AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: I prefer to avoid all such risks by having a small DOS partition and booting from that with loadlin.exe. I used to do this, and still have some machines set up that way. Since I discovered grub I don't bother any more. Any parameter tweaking or selection of a different kernel can be done just as easily from grub as in DOS, and there is the additional advantage that grub understands filesystems other than FAT. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Fixed Mutt Error
On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 09:01:58PM -0400, Ed Sutherland wrote: I fixed the problem I was experiencing with Mutt complaining it couldn't open a temporary file. I changed the set tmpdir in .muttrc from /tmp to ~/Mail/tmp (and after creating the directory) restarted Mutt and the pager works fine. That rather suggests that you have a permissions problem on /tmp which could lead to other things breaking. What does ls -ld /tmp report? -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Can't see second CD-ROM [was: Unidentified subject!]
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 02:36:00PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have recently installed debian woody 3.0 i have two cdrom drives but only have access to one of them debian just acts as if it isn't there i also have windows installed (for wine only) and when i load that up both of my cdrom drives are accessible their, when i boot debian and i see all the text stuff at the begining i see it their as hdc but when it is finished loading and i have logged in their is no sign of my second cdrom drive please can someone help me thanks How are you trying to access the second drive? What's in dmesg about CD-ROM drives? It could be that you just need to set up a mount point for the second drive. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Chroot Debian
On Sat, Oct 02, 2004 at 07:44:02PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: While I find chroot _installs_ of Debian, as a way of getting the distro onto a computer, useful, I wouldn't run a production system as a whole in chroot mode. Specific services (e.g.: bind), sure, but that's a specialized subcase. I see this referred to a lot, and it puzzles me. Bind is a DNS server, right? Why is a DNS server such a security risk that it should be run in a chroot jail? Is bind - the most widely used name server software on the Internet - really that buggy? Or have I got the wrong end of the stick? -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: If ATI and nVidia don't support their own products, who does?
On Sat, Oct 02, 2004 at 04:22:48PM -0400, Brendan wrote: On Saturday 02 October 2004 08:29, Wim De Smet wrote: linux support sooner). Now GPL-ing their drivers isn't going to happen. Drivers need to know certain things about the hardware that these companies just aren't willing to share with their competitor. Tough luck, start your own graphics card company. That's not why NVIDIA cannot open their driver. It's been said by them time and time again that the drive contains 3rd party code that they have a limited license for, and as such, cannot expose that code to non-licensees. Then they should (a) open-source the rest of it, and (b) provide details in the copyright statement of who the 3rd parties are, so they can take their share of the stick for not being open-source. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Linux Installation with SCSI Drive
On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 01:36:24PM -0400, David Clymer wrote: On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 00:26, Nick Lidakis wrote: I was wondering the same and was about to post a similar message to the list. I feel as if my up-to-date Debian box (P4 3GHZ / Intel 875PBZ / 1 GIG RAM / WD ATA 133 Caviar SE) is somehow baing held back bit its on board controller and PATA hard disk, even though I have this disk optimized via hdparm. I feel the system to be jerky/slugish when opening up multiple applications at a time and when copying files. I was also hoping for fatser boot times via a SCSI system but always read conflicting reports regarding the pros of scsi on the desktop. Using SCSI will probably increase boot time rather than reduce it. You will have to wait several seconds for your SCSI controller's ROM to load and detect each attached device. The kernel takes a while to redetect SCSI devices during bootup as well (this can be disabled, I think, but I dont remember how. I never bothered.) This is true. Boot times are even longer if you configure the drives not to spin up until the controller tells them to to reduce the surge on the PSU at switch-on. But this is Linux, what's this booting thing? :-) To add more confusion to the mix, I can't seem to Google any documents regarding which SCSI contollers would be more appropriate for a Linux desktop system. So far, I think LSI's LSIU160 (around 30 dollars) might be a good candidate. I don't know whether I can partner this with a smallish u320 drive. If I can pick up a decent used U160 drive on eBay cheap, it might be worth the money to try out SCSI for myself. If anyting, SCSI is supposed to be more reliable in the long run. Adaptec are pretty trouble-free. I've also got an Intel RAID controller (not using the RAID) which is also supported. Initio are cheap but the last time I looked the 2.6 driver couldn't be compiled (works OK on 2.4 though). Any other comments form current Debian users with SCSI on their desktop boxes would be appreciated. I dont do SCSI anymore. Its cost/performance ratio is so high that it really doesnt make sense for personal use. If its performance you're after, buy several IDE drives and a few controllers if necessary and do IDE raid0 or raid5. You can do this for the cost of a small (in comparison) scsi drive + controller. If you buy old, used SCSI HDs or controllers, their reliability is suspect. If you buy new SCSI controllers, the price is outrageous. I go round computer fairs and every now and then the dismantling of someone's big old servers makes itself known with various people selling SCSI stuff for reasonable prices. IME the drives fall into three categories: completely knackered, don't work at all; work, but have a large and growing number of defects; work, have zero to three defects and continue to work for years. I just make sure I get a receipt and can take the thing back if it's knackered. The work-but-with-defects category has been known to be awkward for this, but drives in this category are very rare. Controllers either work or don't, rarely don't, and continue to work for years. SCSI CD-ROM drives are rare, writers rarer, DVD almost non-existent, but with all your hard drives on SCSI you can leave these slow devices on the IDE bus and not have buffer under-runs. SCSI terminators are also rare so make sure at least one of your hard drives has one built-in - most do, some don't, and it's a pain when you only have one and it doesn't :-) Summary: Buy new PATA/SATA stuff. Its less expensive to purchase/replace and provides (for the most part) comparable performance. Summary: SCSI rocks! and buying it second-hand works if you're careful. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: partition second hard drive
On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 10:36:45AM +1200, cr wrote: On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 04:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I had a dual boot system with Windows and Linux installed. Bought a new cd writer and found out I had to upgrade win 98 to SE to use new software for writer. SE costs more than the writer did. Nuts to microsoft. Took Windows out and installed Debian Sarge with the new installer. I really am happy with it. My question is How do I reformat my second hard drive that is presently Fat 32 windows so that Linux can use it for backup. I tried cfdisk but linux cannot see the drive. I have a Maxtor cd for the drive, which is Maxtor, but there is no Linux formating available on it. I sent them an e-mail asking why not. Thanks in advance for any help. Doug That's very odd. fdisk or cfdisk can usually see a FAT drive (I've been messing around with multiple hard drives for yonks and never had a problem with 'seeing' them). Sorry to ask this but you are giving cfdisk the right address (as in cfdisk /dev/hdb) I suppose?Umm, if you swapped drives around I suppose you did the right things with the drive select jumpers? (sorry to mention that but these things happen) Doubt that's it, his dmesg output shows both drives being recognised. I've never found the make of drive to make any difference, and I've used Maxtor, Seagate, Fujitsu, Quantum, Western Digital... so I'm not sure what the Maxtor CD would have on it other than fairly generic formatting tools. I believe it's usually recommended to remove partitions using the software that created them - that is, using Windows FDISK to remove the partitions on the drive; then Linux fdisk/cfdisk to create new (and, I think, mke2fs to format them). Whether your old W98 CD (if you have one) will allow you to run FDISK without installing Windows, I have no idea. (Nor do I know whether W98 will even contemplate addressing anything other than the first-and-only partition in the machine :) Generally you *create* partitions with software for the OS that's going to use them, which means that setting up a dual-boot system involves using FDISK first and cfdisk second because cfdisk is intelligent enough not to trash FDISK's partitions but not vice versa. Deleting partitions isn't a problem. If you really want to make sure, use dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdb bs=512 count=1 to nuke the partition table. What exactly is the output when you run cfdisk /dev/hdb ? -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Newbie first-time install advice: Highpoint Rocket 133SB
On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 02:52:33PM -0700, Stefan O'Rear wrote: ATI refuses to support Linux Not so. From http://mirror.ati.com/support/faq/linux.html : Linux Drivers for ATI products ATI actively assists qualified 3rd party Linux developers writing software for the majority of ATI products by providing them with development kits and information. We have also made every attempt to provide hardware 2D acceleration for all shipping products and will continue to assist XFree86 developers with their work. 3D Graphics Acceleration ATI has made the necessary hardware and programming information available to Linux developers for the development of hardware 3D acceleration. Family 3D Status RADEON 8500 and laterHardware 3D provided by ATI Proprietary Linux Driver (NOT Open Source) Open source 3D drivers should be available or under development from the DRI Project. RADEON 7500 3D drivers are available from the DRI Project. RADEON 7200 RADEON 7000 RAGE 128 More links on: http://search.ati.com/nasearch.asp?Query=linuxgo.x=14go.y=9DefaultLanguage=16Catalog=NASiterdoCatalog=NASiteStart=Total=Stat=New -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: urgent help
On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 03:35:31PM +0530, Vijaya S wrote: hi all, for some reason i got a messgae generated as Re:Request on a debian machine i dindt send the message to id at all. is it a spam mail ? Re: Request? Sounds like spam with forged headers to me. Nothing to do with you and nothing to worry about. Your Subject: of urgent help also looks like spam BTW... :-) -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Developing flash on debian
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 08:19:27AM -0400, S.D.A. wrote: On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 07:54:13PM -0400 or thereabouts, Michael Marsh wrote: On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 18:43:07 -0400, Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the most obvious is flashblock. I don't think that's what Pigeon had in mind, useful though it is. I think what he(?) meant was something that extracts the navigation URLs within a flash animation so that the site is navigable. For example, many sites have a flash-based homepage with no non-flash links presented, so if you're not running flash, the site is useless. Actually NOT so -- I would think these kind of Flash sites are in the minority, at least in 2004. They are, at least among the kind of sites I tend to visit (mainly technical ones). But they do exist, and they are a nuisance, and a plugin as described above would be very useful. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Developing flash on debian
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 09:09:27AM -0400, S.D.A. wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 08:54:09AM -0400 or thereabouts, Michael Marsh wrote: That's true -- I wasn't aware of that. However, that doesn't address the issue that some people don't run Flash for one reason or another. Most of us have surrendered to Javascript, but that doesn't mean we have to surrender to Flash. It's not only about accessibility for the disabled, it's about accessibility for people who don't want to run non-free software. Well, Flash is only going to increase as it's perfect for creating interfaces to the backend server side technology. If you disable Flash in the future, you're going to eliminate some pretty important website functionality, on some big websites. BTW Flash technology is OPEN Source, it's NOT proprietary. Too much is said that's not accurate regarding Flash. There is another issue that I can see with flash (and please correct me if I'm not accurate :-) ) which is the monolithic, binary nature of the files - in fact this leads to two issues: Take for example the website http://www.ultimaterally.com . The main page is a flash file http://www.ultimaterally.com/swf/home.swf which contains lots of bullshit animation and a few navigation links. Extracting the few bytes of useful data (the navigation links' targets) requires the downloading of 397,387 bytes; with an HTML page one would only download the HTML, as images and animations and sounds would be separate files whose downloading can be either blocked or avoided. The flash file then requires processing by software capable of decoding its format - ie. specialised, you can't just hack something together using grep and sed. The bandwidth issue is a pain for dialup users and for broadband users with a metered connection, especially if the metering involves capping. The opacity issue is a pain for anyone trying to do any processing on the flash content, such as URL extraction or advert blocking. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Developing flash on debian
On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 10:58:59PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 10:47:00PM -0400, Travis Crump wrote: Pigeon wrote: It would be useful if there was a flash plugin that did nothing but extract URLs and present them in clickable form, so you could still navigate web sites that have the above problem but are spared all the multimedia garbage. There is... Well, there's a Mozilla extension that does that, anyway. What's it called? I was googling for such a thing a few days ago without any luck, and I've looked through the official mozilla extensions page and there is nothing matching that description (not to mention a few things that look possible but don't work!) -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Developing flash on debian
On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 06:43:07PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 11:09:29PM +0100, Pigeon wrote: On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 10:58:59PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: Well, there's a Mozilla extension that does that, anyway. What's it called? I was googling for such a thing a few days ago without any luck, and I've looked through the official mozilla extensions page and there is nothing matching that description (not to mention a few things that look possible but don't work!) Well, the most obvious is flashblock. That was one of the things that look possible but don't work... -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Developing flash on debian
On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 08:18:01PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 07:54:13PM -0400, Michael Marsh wrote: ... I think what he(?) (yes) :-) meant was something that extracts the navigation URLs within a flash animation so that the site is navigable. For example, many sites have a flash-based homepage with no non-flash links presented, so if you're not running flash, the site is useless. Precisely, very well put. Oh. If that's so, I completely misunderstood, sorry. Not to worry... FWIW I thought you had understood, and that flashblock did provide that functionality but didn't explicitly mention it in the brief description in the mozilla extensions list. I won't worry about it not working now :-) -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Developing flash on debian
On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 07:41:32AM -0700, Zachary Rizer wrote: If you are using flash, I must warn you to only use it to make movies or games, NEVER for navigation, as it is not a highly accessible technology. Please, stay away from it for web design. Well said. It would be useful if there was a flash plugin that did nothing but extract URLs and present them in clickable form, so you could still navigate web sites that have the above problem but are spared all the multimedia garbage. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: exim port
On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 04:33:21PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I have a question regarding exim. Looks like my ISP blocked port 25. How to I tell exim to listen on another port? Wrong question... how do you tell all other machines that might want to initiate an SMTP session with yours to talk on your custom port? -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: IDE Bus rescan
On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 11:32:53AM +0200, pir aa wrote: The Idea of a modul is interesting, but wouldn't that mean, that if I remove the module I'll remove the whole IDE. I've hear that removing the /root could cause problems. I think you could copy /bin, /sbin, /lib and /etc onto a ramdisk, chroot to that, rmmod/insmod the ide module then chroot back? -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Confused about modules
On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 10:16:53AM +1000, Robert Parker wrote: As root On a Woody system 2.4 series kernel. modprobe apm the module installs and is in the lsmod list but does not persist through a boot. insmod apm same story. So what command should I use to have apm installed on boot? echo apm /etc/modules I guess a second question is why have 2 commands doing the same thing? If you mean insmod and modprobe... insmod just tries to insert the module specified and reports success or failure. modprobe will also load any other modules that the specified module depends on. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: ZOOM X4 adsl modem , Apache behind home gateway
On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 12:25:28PM -0600, Dean Allen Provins wrote: On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 07:51:15PM +0300, Hasan wrote: Hello , I want to use apache server , it works at localhost perfect . Bu i have the adsl modem zoom x4 . When i click my ip at the browser Home Gateway popup appears and ask password. I tried to do Virtual Host section . When I set port 80 to my ip , it reset the modem and my ip chages ! How can i do this ? I googled and ask in freenode irc but cant find . If I understand your situation and question correctly, you want to set up your Apache web server for access from outside your local network. As far as I know, and this is based on my experience of a network behind an ADSL modem and a router (there are several machines connected via the router to the modem), you need a little more. I have a Zoom X3... You must direct port 80 traffic to the host running Apache. It appears that you've tried to do this, but every time the modem is reset, you get a new IP number. This happens because your ISP is assigning you a dynamically assigned IP number (via DHCP). You could ask for a static IP number, but that usually costs more (it does from my ISP). The way around this is to use a service which associates a name with your current IP number. That way, people wanting to connect to your web server, need only remember an unchaning name. There are free services on the 'net which will let you associate a name of your choice with your current IP. For example, you might choose the name 'maria' for your PC. At 'www.dyndns.org' (the provider that I use) you would register that name and associate it with a domain (they have several from which to choose - I use 'dyndns.org' as the domain name). Thus, your host might have the name 'maria.dyndns.org'. If every time you reset your modem, you also redid the name to IP association (and there are free scripts which will assist you to do this), then users could always reach your host. The canonical way to do this is with the ddclient package. Using this procedure may help you solve your problem. It certainly did for me. What this will do is provide a consistent name by which outside users can find your website. It's not the full story on setting up the Zoom. The Zoom will assign your network card an IP via DHCP. (Not to be confused with your ISP assigning you an IP by DHCP!) You will see entries similar to this in /var/log/syslog: Sep 12 00:16:38 stunted dhclient-2.2.x: DHCPREQUEST on eth1 to 10.0.0.2 port 67 Sep 12 00:16:38 stunted dhclient-2.2.x: DHCPACK from 10.0.0.2 Sep 12 00:16:39 stunted dhclient-2.2.x: bound to 10.0.0.10 -- renewal in 43200 seconds. In this case 10.0.0.10 is the IP assigned via DHCP. I'm assuming you only have one box. 10.0.0.10 is the IP that you need to set the Zoom's Virtual Server to point to. This IP may change when you reboot the Zoom. To prevent this go into LAN Configuration and select User Defined addresses for the DHCP server, then set the User Defined Start Address and ...End Address to the same address - 10.0.0.10 in this example. That should ensure that your Virtual Server settings always point at the correct IP. You may also need to deal with some bugs in the modem's firmware. In my case I found that the settings to block external access to the Zoom's FTP and HTTP servers didn't do anything (I've reassigned the Zoom's HTTP server to a different port from the standard 80) and a few other random ports were open for no apparent reason. The workaround is to create additional Virtual Server entries for the offending ports to forward them to the Linux box, and make sure the Linux box has those ports closed. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: ZOOM X4 adsl modem , Apache behind home gateway[SOLVED]
On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 12:35:08AM +0300, Hasan wrote: i change the lines in etc/network/interfaces like this : iface eth0 inet static address 10.0.0.16 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 10.0.0.2 Make the first line iface eth0 inet dhcp and get rid of the other three. Make sure you've got dhclient installed as well. then in LAN settings in modem , the ip beetween 10.0.0.4 and 10.0.0.15 so 16 is in outside . That means it'll never be assigned - the opposite of what you want. Make both these entries 10.0.0.16. That way 10.0.0.16 will always be assigned. then in VIRTUAL HOST in web interface in modem , i change the port 80 to 10.0.0.16 and leave this the same. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Emailing myself pictures to a Maildir; how to extract with script?
On Sat, Sep 11, 2004 at 03:09:26PM -0400, William Ballard wrote: I'm emailing myself pics from my cell and procmail puts them into a special maildir. I'd like to iterate over each message in this maildir, extract the attachments to individual .jpgs, and then delete the message. (Lazy, done no research yet, but hoping someone can grunt a one word answer). Thanks. Here is something I hacked together when I was doing something similar. It extracts base64-encoded jpeg attachments from messages. It doesn't expect more than one attachment, but your problem sounds like you don't need it to. Compile it, then call it with input and output filenames, eg. cd directory/with/messages/in for x in *; do cleanpic2 $x $x.jpeg; done -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F #include stdio.h #include stdlib.h #include string.h #include sys/types.h #include sys/stat.h #include fcntl.h char *do64(char c) { static char list[]=ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789+/=; static char count=0; static union { unsigned z; char s[4]; } op; unsigned x,y; if (count==0) op.z=0; y=0xff; for (x=0;x65;x++) if (c==list[x]) { y=x; x=65; } if (y==64) { y=0; } if (y64) { op.z = 6; op.z |= y; /* printf(%02x ,y);*/ count++; } if (count==4) { op.s[3]=op.s[0]; op.s[0]=op.s[2]; op.s[2]=op.s[3]; op.s[3]=0; count=0; /* printf(%x ,op.z); for (x=0;x3;x++) printf(%02x ,op.s[x]); printf(\n);*/ return (op.s[0]); } else { return NULL; } } int clean(int infd, int outfd, char *name) { int size, x; int y=0; char *buf, *c, *op; int gotff=0; if ((size=lseek(infd, 0, SEEK_END))0) { fprintf(stderr, %s: Can't seek to end of input file\n,name); return -1; } if ((buf=malloc(size+1))==NULL) { fprintf(stderr, %s: Can't allocate %d bytes for buffer\n,name,size); return -1; } /* ECCHY ECCHY ECCH */ buf++; lseek(infd, 0, SEEK_SET); if (read(infd, buf, size)0) { fprintf(stderr, %s: Error reading input file\n,name); size=-1; } else { for (x=0,c=buf; xsize; x++,c++) { if (gotff==0) { if ((*(c-1)==0x0a)(*c=='/')(*(c+1)=='9')(*(c+2)=='j')(*(c+3)=='/')) y=gotff=1; } if (gotff==1) { if ((*c==0x0a)(*(c+1)==0x0a)) { gotff=0; ftruncate(outfd,y); } else { op=do64(*c); if (op!=NULL) { write(outfd, op, 3); y+=3; } } } } } /* See ECCHY ECCHY ECCH */ buf--; free(buf); return size; } int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { int infd, outfd; char line[256]; if (argc!=3) { fprintf(stderr,%s: input and output filenames required\n,argv[0]); exit(1); } if ((infd=open(argv[1], O_RDONLY))0) { fprintf(stderr,%s: %s: cannot open for reading\n,argv[0],argv[1]); exit(1); } if ((outfd=open(argv[2], O_WRONLY|O_CREAT))0) { fprintf(stderr,%s: %s: cannot open for writing\n,argv[0],argv[2]); exit(1); } if (clean(infd, outfd, argv[0])0) exit(1); close(outfd); close(infd); /* Fudge because it assigns REALLY WEIRD permissions to the output file * for no apparent reason - libc bug?? */ snprintf(line, 256, chmod 664 %s,argv[2]); system(line); exit(0); } signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: spurious interrupt error causes a kernel panic during Debian install
On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 05:32:54PM +0200, Lorenzo Cuciniello wrote: Hi! John Summerfield wrote: Lorenzo Cuciniello wrote: The two events are unrelated. The spurious interrupts have been going on for years. Not that I can locate one just now, but a little googling should clear that point up. Thanks for your answer.I've googled searching for spurious interrupt,but found nothing reliable and working about my problem. I mean, someone says it's a hardware problem regarding AMD/VIA/ASUS (but there's no proof about this) someone other says you must disable the APIC feature in the kernel (tried,doesn't work) someone other says try to disable ACPI (neither it works), someother ok disable the framebuffer modality at startup. My personal impression is that this error is largely documented about cases regarding PC's with Linux installed and running but quite obscure when it happens during the first install,with a bullet-proof kernel (bf24). I'd really know your opinion about this. Try turning off the APIC in the BIOS setup rather than in the kernel. I had something similar once and this got it going. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: hotplug PS2 keyboard
On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 12:03:55AM -0700, Li Daobing wrote: the right shift is out of work Interesting. Wonder if it's the interface not syncing until the equal mark/space ratio of scan code 42 (101010) enables it to sync? Does the o key (24, 10101) do anything? Just interested, not vital! -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Fwd: lpr/cupsys-bsd printing problem after upgrade
On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 09:47:37AM +0100, Clive Menzies wrote: Hi I posted this on debian-powerpc recently but received no response, so I thought I'd try here. After a recent sid upgrade, I seem to have lost the ability to print from some applications. I thought at first it was to do with postscript printing because Firefox 0.82 (an older version which supports ps printing) and kfax stopped printing. However, when trying to print from mutt I get: Muttprint Version 0.72a -- Error Line 740: Could not print with lpr: I believe that lpr is provided by cupsys-bsd and having checked the bug reports, can't find anything relevant. Am I the only one experiencing this? I've tried reconfiguring the various cupsys packages and even reinstalled cupsys itself but the problem prevails. Incidentally konqueror, kwrite and openoffice all print fine. Try using lp instead of lpr? -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature