Customizing/repository question

[Ralph Sanchez]

Good morning. I was just wandering, is it safe to use packages from another
Debian based district repositories by adding them to my sources file,
specifically Kali Linux? My dual boot failed, and while I don't mind having
to boot into Kali for the tough stuff, I'd rather get what functionality
out of Jessie I can in the same regards, namely the packages that aren't in
the debian repositories. The only notable difference between the two
sisters that I found, aside from intended use, is that you always login as
route in Kali, mitigated by using sudo in Jessie.  Just wanted to know if
this is either a, a good solution, b, a horrible idea or c, trial and error
time. I've already had to fix a broken system multiple times and I just
started using debian about two or three weeks ago so not trying to go
through to much more hell for a few days at least.

Re: Grub won't install

[Ralph Sanchez]

For the record, at least in my experience now, grub nor lilo will install
from the Jessie netinst if you manually partition the drive instead of
guided and then editing the layout. Maybe guided sets up the MBR or sda1 in
such a way that you cant from part an? Idk but after guided parting then
customizing grub installed fine. Unfortunately, after a day of operation,
my session developed an error where it can't write to /tmp, btw I had
separate root home var and temp partition, as well as swap, and thus will
not proceed past KDE's login it just perpetually reboots.  Installing AGAIN
because nothing in recovery helped, even clearing nearly all data from
/tmp. Going to stick with just a root home and swaps partition now, mostly
so I can encrypt home from inside the Os as well as encryption preboot.
Hoping that'll solve any problems with tmp, and if not idk what to do. This
is going to be my third successful reinstall within a weekthings like
this aren't going to corrupt my entire drive will it? I also had an error
where it wouldn't mount /var but i fixed that simply by three fingers
salute reboot instead of power button on the laptop, as turning it off that
way seems to be what caused it to not remount var properly. Also, lilo
works just fine with today's systems, like one guy said. It's what I was
using before I decided to try and make a dual boot, which I gave up on as
grub simply would recognize whichever encrypted partition I installed on Os
in first once the second was installed.
On May 19, 2016 12:42 PM, "Hugo Vanwoerkom"  wrote:

> Lisi Reisz wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday 18 May 2016 19:57:00 Marc Shapiro wrote:
>>
>>> On 05/17/2016 09:13 PM, J Mo wrote:
>>>
 lilo is ultra-ancient. I don't even know if it works with modern
 kernels.

>>> Lilo definitely still works with current kernels.  I started out using
>>> lilo 17 or 18 years ago and I am still using it now under Jessie and
>>> kernel vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64.
>>>
>>
>> Can one still use grub-legacy with modern kernels?
>>
>>
> Indeed. I run uptodate Sid with Super Grub Disk based on Grub 0.97-0s1 on
> a USB key of 2G.
>
> Hugo
>
>
>

Grub is being so bad this install

[Ralph Sanchez]

I finally got grub two to boot up, my install is done, I boot up woohoo I
got my menu, put in my encryption pass, now grub is asking me for a
'hostname login' which j never set anything up for so now what. My user and
root don't work, it wants a name then a pass. How is this even possible for
it to ask me for a login j didn't creat

Grub won't install

[Ralph Sanchez]

I'm setting up a dual boot, and installing deb Jessie first. I installed it
before, no problem. Now, grub won't install :( it just tells me it's a
fatal error and refuses to install. Will lilo work for a dual boot? I've
got no idea why it wouldn't work this time

Re: Need Urgently solution or advice - start to give up on Debian

[Ralph Sanchez]

His problem is that he gets a garbled or corrupted screen instead of any
kind of startup unless he boots into some kind of safe mode or opens the
grub command prompt, that's what I've surmised. I had that happen my first
install, and it just happened to be bad luck and poor connection quality,
along with being a total novice Linux user.
On May 17, 2016 6:18 PM, "YIM Programming Izhar Mashkif" <
yimprogramm...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello all.

I have a problem with installing Debian as described at that discussion.
The problem is that my time is over I have a other computer that I must
install there OS or I will stay without Computer.

I really wanted to use Debian because I was disappoint of Ubuntu but it's
seem to me more complicated. So because the urgantly maybe I should use
other Linux like Mint or Ubuntu.

This is the problem at the forum :

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17=128321=616003#p616003

I will glad to hear solution or advice.

best regards.

Re: Wlan0 problems

[Ralph Sanchez]

Sorry it took so long to respond. I didn't find the source problem, but
stopping all network services, checking config files, downing my wlan0
interface and then manually starting everything and if config wlan0 up
solved whatever happened.

On Monday, May 9, 2016, Henning Follmann <hfollm...@itcfollmann.com> wrote:

> On Mon, May 09, 2016 at 02:36:30AM -0400, Ralph Sanchez wrote:
> > Last night, i was continuing my tightening of security according to the
> > debain sites manual, and had pretty much finished with the securing
> > networks part...today, i start up my laptop and no wifi?? In the taskbar,
>
> mission accomplished. No network is a reasonable security startegy ;)
>
>
>
> > the wifi symbol has a question mark, hovering over it says
> > disconnected...but it is up in ifconfig, althougb next to up it says
> > Broadcast multicast (all caps) and it also says Link encap: ethernet,
> which
> > i dont think it did before. Help lol
>
>
> encap: ethernet is OK.
>
> It looks more like you couldn't get an ip address.
>
> Can you post the output of iwconfig wlan0?
>
> What did you do to "secure" your network?
>
> -H
>
>
> --
> Henning Follmann   | hfollm...@itcfollmann.com <javascript:;>
>
>

Second ? for the day/ Dualbooting Debian with encryption?

[Ralph Sanchez]

This is my first time really considering a full dual boot i feel the
need to first ask if this is possible...to dual boot two linux OS's,
one is debian jessie, the other a debian based OS, with full disk
encryption?Or rather I guess it would be two seperate encrypted
partitions? Or would it be two seperate partiotion within one
encryption?

If possible, which option is or which is best? I can give details on
both. Asfar as why I would run two Debian OS's, one jessie one a
derivitive, they work in rather different ways, different GUI, etc.

I've been live booting the secondary OS, which is fine except for the
persistence feature doesn't like to work for me and I use it so often
it's a pain to have one of the two USB's on my notebooke taken up when
I'm using it and to have aflash drive sticking out during normal
operation. I also have a third, rarely used OS i live boot from,
another reason to pursue a dual boot.

Hardening/RulesFile

[Ralph Sanchez]

Hey all, maybe this is generally a security question but it's also a
user related question...

I'm reading the hardening walkthrough, and other debian hardening
docs, and I'm supposed to be making changes to my rules (also written
in docs as debian/rules). A search in Dolphin shows me HTTPSEVERYWHERE
RULES(i know what this is lol) HTTPSrules.js  and rulesets.json.  Is
it the Rulesets file I'm supposed to be editing, or did I miss
something? I'm running Jessie, run update and upgrade everyday. I'm
usually good at finding the file i need to edit as I've been tailoring
the system, but i'm just not sure I've got this one right. Thanks all:
) also when I did a search in Dolphin i just searched rules,
debian/rules and /debian/rules gave no results.

Wlan0 problems

[Ralph Sanchez]

Last night, i was continuing my tightening of security according to the
debain sites manual, and had pretty much finished with the securing
networks part...today, i start up my laptop and no wifi?? In the taskbar,
the wifi symbol has a question mark, hovering over it says
disconnected...but it is up in ifconfig, althougb next to up it says
Broadcast multicast (all caps) and it also says Link encap: ethernet, which
i dont think it did before. Help lol

Sudo/root issues...

[Ralph Sanchez]

I know ive been asking alot of questions, but i do check debian.org files
for documentation and howtos, only asking when something doesnt work or
doesnt come up there...so, im setting up my new instal and wanted to make
sure everything is upgraded and updated. Tried aptitude update and apt-get
commands, they needed root access so i did sudo on them, put in my user
pass and...i dont have sudo priveleges. I followed multiple documented ways
to get sudo priveleges, i cant do anything from within my user to that
extent (tried and falled with sudo adduser x sudo, and adding to group
from within terminal, and cant read or write my sudoers readme) so i
figured id log out again and try to log in as root, and am told im not able
to log in as route. What can i do ??

Re: Installing jessie on laptop from usb live iso

[Ralph Sanchez]

I did have the live iso as a bootable disk, not just on it, sorry for my
wording.. i actually used the live boot to image netinst to a seperate usb,
and went from there. Thanks :) hopefully if anyone rlse has this issue
theyll see this.

On Thursday, May 5, 2016, David Wright <deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu 05 May 2016 at 09:47:20 (-0400), Ralph Sanchez wrote:
> > Ok. First things first, I have been able to setup a new usb for netinst.
> > But, for future reference on this issue...
> >
> > Yes, this happens before setting up mirrors
> >
> > Also, trying to use the installer from boot menu instead of within live
> > image gave the same type of error, just much faster.
> >
> > As far as contents of the sources.list, the deb cdrom line that commonly
> > needs commented out was not there. Sources.list.d was empty.
> >
> > My only solution was to get netinst.iso, and then run the # cp debian.iso
> > /dev/sdX command followed by # sync, which was highly finicky as it did
> not
> > want to run correctly or recognize host, but it did eventually work.
>
> I hadn't realised you had the iso as a file on the stick rather than
> as the stick. Presumably you could have loop-mounted the iso rather
> than having to copy it to drive sdX.
>
> Typically the installer tries in turn to mount any partitions it can
> find onto /media/cdrom. You can see this process going on in the logs
> scrolling by on VC4. Thus it would find sdX by itself, whereas it
> would need telling if the partition was squirrelled away in a file.
>
> > On Thursday, May 5, 2016, Elimar Riesebieter <riese...@lxtec.de
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > > * Ralph Sanchez <rwsanch...@gmail.com <javascript:;> <javascript:;>>
> [2016-05-05 03:17
> > > -0400]:
> > >
> > > > Update: like i said, i am running from the install from within the
> Live
> > > > boot from usb. I configured network, partitioning, etc and got to
> > > > installing system. Bar is about 95 percent full and says retreiving
> file
> > > 1
> > > > of 2 when it switches to a windows saying ::/media/cdrom/:Please
> > > insert
> > > > the disc labeled: 'Debian GNU/Linux 8 _jessie_-Official Snapshot
> amd64
> > > > LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20160402-2159' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and
> press
> > > > enter.
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
>

Re: Installing jessie on laptop from usb live iso

[Ralph Sanchez]

Update. Mirrors are fine, my network needed reconfigured.

On Thursday, May 5, 2016, Ralph Sanchez <rwsanch...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok. First things first, I have been able to setup a new usb for netinst.
> But, for future reference on this issue...
>
> Yes, this happens before setting up mirrors
>
> Also, trying to use the installer from boot menu instead of within live
> image gave the same type of error, just much faster.
>
> As far as contents of the sources.list, the deb cdrom line that commonly
> needs commented out was not there. Sources.list.d was empty.
>
> My only solution was to get netinst.iso, and then run the # cp debian.iso
> /dev/sdX command followed by # sync, which was highly finicky as it did not
> want to run correctly or recognize host, but it did eventually work.
>
> Now of course my netinst gui installer is telling me bad archive mirror
> now matter which one i chose lmao.
>
> On Thursday, May 5, 2016, Elimar Riesebieter <riese...@lxtec.de
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','riese...@lxtec.de');>> wrote:
>
>> * Ralph Sanchez <rwsanch...@gmail.com> [2016-05-05 03:17 -0400]:
>>
>> > Update: like i said, i am running from the install from within the Live
>> > boot from usb. I configured network, partitioning, etc and got to
>> > installing system. Bar is about 95 percent full and says retreiving
>> file 1
>> > of 2 when it switches to a windows saying ::/media/cdrom/:Please
>> insert
>> > the disc labeled: 'Debian GNU/Linux 8 _jessie_-Official Snapshot amd64
>> > LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20160402-2159' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and
>> press
>> > enter.
>>
>> Can you post the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list ?
>>
>> Elimar
>> --
>>   Obviously the human brain works like a computer.
>>   Since there are no stupid computers humans can't be stupid.
>>   There are just a few running with Windows or even CE ;-)
>>
>>

Re: Installing jessie on laptop from usb live iso

[Ralph Sanchez]

Ok. First things first, I have been able to setup a new usb for netinst.
But, for future reference on this issue...

Yes, this happens before setting up mirrors

Also, trying to use the installer from boot menu instead of within live
image gave the same type of error, just much faster.

As far as contents of the sources.list, the deb cdrom line that commonly
needs commented out was not there. Sources.list.d was empty.

My only solution was to get netinst.iso, and then run the # cp debian.iso
/dev/sdX command followed by # sync, which was highly finicky as it did not
want to run correctly or recognize host, but it did eventually work.

Now of course my netinst gui installer is telling me bad archive mirror now
matter which one i chose lmao.

On Thursday, May 5, 2016, Elimar Riesebieter <riese...@lxtec.de> wrote:

> * Ralph Sanchez <rwsanch...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> [2016-05-05 03:17
> -0400]:
>
> > Update: like i said, i am running from the install from within the Live
> > boot from usb. I configured network, partitioning, etc and got to
> > installing system. Bar is about 95 percent full and says retreiving file
> 1
> > of 2 when it switches to a windows saying ::/media/cdrom/:Please
> insert
> > the disc labeled: 'Debian GNU/Linux 8 _jessie_-Official Snapshot amd64
> > LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20160402-2159' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press
> > enter.
>
> Can you post the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list ?
>
> Elimar
> --
>   Obviously the human brain works like a computer.
>   Since there are no stupid computers humans can't be stupid.
>   There are just a few running with Windows or even CE ;-)
>
>

Re: Installing jessie on laptop from usb live iso

[Ralph Sanchez]

After rereading the last response i got, i see why their issue is similar,
but the solution cant be used here because even if i had wheezy installed
before, im past the point where the hdd gets overwritten with random data.

On Thursday, May 5, 2016, Ralph Sanchez <rwsanch...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Update: like i said, i am running from the install from within the Live
> boot from usb. I configured network, partitioning, etc and got to
> installing system. Bar is about 95 percent full and says retreiving file 1
> of 2 when it switches to a windows saying ::/media/cdrom/:Please insert
> the disc labeled: 'Debian GNU/Linux 8 _jessie_-Official Snapshot amd64
> LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20160402-2159' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press
> enter.   Wtf.i dont have a cd drive, my hdd is now wiped and
> encrypted, and any attempt to say download the net iso or the cd1 kde iso
> and install it on another usb using the cp debain.iso dev/sbX command
> recommended in the manual for burning a iso from within linux fails saying
> i dont have permission for sdX, sdc in this case, although i can save files
> to it in a normal fashion. What gives here? What can i possibly do short of
> buying an external reader and locating cds, which isnt going to happen!
>
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2016, Ralph Sanchez <rwsanch...@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rwsanch...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Thanks but no, thats not the issue...i am installing from a live iso
>> image booted from usb, went to the installer in the live boot, got all the
>> way through the overwrite, partitioning and encryption and then got a
>> message telling me to insert such and such debian jessie cd in cdrom
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 4, 2016, David Wright <deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed 04 May 2016 at 20:50:32 (-0400), Ralph Sanchez wrote:
>>> > Ok, so i have followed the installation manual to the t so far, and
>>> after
>>> > overwritong with random data, confirming the partitions, and
>>> installing the
>>> > system, the installer is asking me insert a debian live cd into my
>>> cdrom
>>> > that doesnt exist! Whats going on here and what do i do?
>>>
>>> Would something along the lines of
>>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/01/msg01117.html
>>> help? This is to get it to use the USB stick where it's
>>> trying to use a CDROM (but with the installer rather than
>>> a live CD).
>>>
>>> Apologies if that's not your problem.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> David.
>>>
>>>

Re: Installing jessie on laptop from usb live iso

[Ralph Sanchez]

Update: like i said, i am running from the install from within the Live
boot from usb. I configured network, partitioning, etc and got to
installing system. Bar is about 95 percent full and says retreiving file 1
of 2 when it switches to a windows saying ::/media/cdrom/:Please insert
the disc labeled: 'Debian GNU/Linux 8 _jessie_-Official Snapshot amd64
LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20160402-2159' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press
enter.   Wtf.i dont have a cd drive, my hdd is now wiped and
encrypted, and any attempt to say download the net iso or the cd1 kde iso
and install it on another usb using the cp debain.iso dev/sbX command
recommended in the manual for burning a iso from within linux fails saying
i dont have permission for sdX, sdc in this case, although i can save files
to it in a normal fashion. What gives here? What can i possibly do short of
buying an external reader and locating cds, which isnt going to happen!

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016, Ralph Sanchez <rwsanch...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks but no, thats not the issue...i am installing from a live iso image
> booted from usb, went to the installer in the live boot, got all the way
> through the overwrite, partitioning and encryption and then got a message
> telling me to insert such and such debian jessie cd in cdrom
>
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2016, David Wright <deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk');>> wrote:
>
>> On Wed 04 May 2016 at 20:50:32 (-0400), Ralph Sanchez wrote:
>> > Ok, so i have followed the installation manual to the t so far, and
>> after
>> > overwritong with random data, confirming the partitions, and installing
>> the
>> > system, the installer is asking me insert a debian live cd into my cdrom
>> > that doesnt exist! Whats going on here and what do i do?
>>
>> Would something along the lines of
>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/01/msg01117.html
>> help? This is to get it to use the USB stick where it's
>> trying to use a CDROM (but with the installer rather than
>> a live CD).
>>
>> Apologies if that's not your problem.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> David.
>>
>>

Re: Installing jessie on laptop from usb live iso

[Ralph Sanchez]

Thanks but no, thats not the issue...i am installing from a live iso image
booted from usb, went to the installer in the live boot, got all the way
through the overwrite, partitioning and encryption and then got a message
telling me to insert such and such debian jessie cd in cdrom

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016, David Wright <deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:

> On Wed 04 May 2016 at 20:50:32 (-0400), Ralph Sanchez wrote:
> > Ok, so i have followed the installation manual to the t so far, and after
> > overwritong with random data, confirming the partitions, and installing
> the
> > system, the installer is asking me insert a debian live cd into my cdrom
> > that doesnt exist! Whats going on here and what do i do?
>
> Would something along the lines of
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/01/msg01117.html
> help? This is to get it to use the USB stick where it's
> trying to use a CDROM (but with the installer rather than
> a live CD).
>
> Apologies if that's not your problem.
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
>

Installing jessie on laptop from usb live iso

[Ralph Sanchez]

Ok, so i have followed the installation manual to the t so far, and after
overwritong with random data, confirming the partitions, and installing the
system, the installer is asking me insert a debian live cd into my cdrom
that doesnt exist! Whats going on here and what do i do?

Re: Posting picture files

[Ralph Sanchez]

On the subject of Dialup, and this is me speaking for just me, but I'd
rather have to walk five blocks everytime I need internet then spend
20 a month on dial up :/ I guess a lot of those 2.1 million customers
probably live in very rural areas where maybe other forms aren't
available, or the cost to lay wire would be more then they have. My
thinking is, we have GPS that works nearly (ok maybe not) everywhere
you'd go and want internet, so why hasn't some billionaire or
multi-billion or trillion dollar company decided to provide a wifi
type service in the same way?? I'd think if my galaxy s6 can beam
receive, beam back and re-receive data from 3 different sources at the
same time fast enough to have a mildly reliable map of where I am, how
fast i'm going and traffic conditions we could access the web at the
same speed or faster. Totally off topic, sorry


On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Gary Roach  wrote:
> On 05/02/2016 07:01 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>
>> On Monday 02 May 2016 06:18:02 Vincent Lefevre wrote:
>>
>>> On 2016-04-30 23:20:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:

 On Saturday 30 April 2016 21:12:00 Gary Roach wrote:
>
> I understand that I should not use attachments on debian-user or
> send anything other than plain text files. This leaves me with a
> problem if I wish to post a screen shot. I have been told that
> debian has a paste bin. Does anyone know the url for that bin.
>
> Gary R

 
>>>
>>> Or better: https://paste.debian.net/
>>
>> Working from 81 yo & rusty wet ram. :(  Thank you for the correction.
>>
>>
>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
>
> You know, I just looked at http://paste.debian,net. The site seems to be
> more for pasting code snippets than anything else. While there is nothing
> wrong with this, I don't see why they don't just paste the code directly
> into their email message. That said, the site didn't seem to be set up very
> well for pictures. At least that is my first impression. Wouldn't be the
> first time that that was wrong though.
>
> This dial up thing is a pain. I just found an article from CNN that there
> are still 2.1 million aol customers using dial up connection. ($20/mo.).
> Someone needs to figure out a way to handle this without penalizing the rest
> of us.
>
> Gary R.
>
> Gary R.
>

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2016 #417

[Ralph Sanchez]

Tom-That's what I thought too, but I thought someone said earlier that
during the install w/ encryption, Debian would also zero the disk, or
maybe I'm mistaken. As far as the process if I did what your
suggesting and I was going to do, would it work like this...

Boot from USB Live ISO

Run choice zero/random pattern overwrite program

Install from USB Live

lol I know it seems simple and like I should know the answer, but I've
never even fully formatted a HDD myself, never had a reason too
(degaussed one, the only other one I ever used haha had that Compaq
Presario tower for yers) so I guess I was worried if something
happened to make the system reboot with the HDD completely gone the
BIOS system wouldn't boot from the USB either then. I guess this comes
down to not knowing much about the Bios itself, where it's located and
how it works. It's funny how we pass over the simple things when
learning the bigger things we think are more important haha

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Tom Dial  wrote:
> Although encryption of the disk (as offered during installation) is a
> good idea, it protects against loss of the system or disk while powered
> down. It does not protect against unauthorized access to the running
> system, and if the threat model includes that, zeroing (or better yet,
> multiply overwriting with varying patterns and then zeroing) offers
> protection that disk encryption does not.
>
> Neither action protects against determined state equivalent actors or
> malware implanted in the drive controller.
>
> Tom Dial
>
> On 05/02/2016 11:17 AM, debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote:
>

Re: Zero filling my HDD before installation

[Ralph Sanchez]

Also for the record, reasons I hate windows: It keeps defaulting to
another email I created for testing out some email thing instead of
the one I think i'm currently signed in under. FML. lol

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 6:53 PM, Thomas D Dial  wrote:
> Yes, from my experience it is safe. You may have to add a partition
> table before formatting it. If I recall correctly, cfdisk will complain
> mildly and ask you to do that. The Linux installer might take it in
> stride, or you might have to run fdisk or cfdisk from the USB ISO.
>
> Tom Dial
>
>
> On 05/02/2016 09:00 AM, CD Lexi wrote:
>> Hey everyone. I'm currently looking to switch to Debian from Windows. I
>> used to love windows, but with every upgrade it seems I lose privacy,
>> control and honestly functionality. Sure, there's a lot more I can, if
>> that wasn't mitigated by what windows wants me to do at the time. I
>> should have never even moved on to 10...constantly interrupting or
>> flogging my system to ask me to upgrade in the middle of sensitive work
>> should have been my tip offI digress...
>>
>> My question is this: I know what Zero and Random fills do to a drive, I
>> run them on every USB and Sd/MSD card I buy or retrieve, and everytime I
>> repurpose them. But I've never done this to a HDD and my laptop is my
>> only accessible PC aside from my Galaxy S6. I've backed up all my
>> important documents to multiple cloud locations, so I'm not worried
>> about losing user data. I'm just wandering, is it safe to Zero Fill an
>> HDD before installing Debian from a USB ISO? I know I can boot to the
>> ISO and Zero or Random Fill, or other sani methods from the USB Booted
>> Debian, but will doing this to my hard drive stop me from being able to
>> install from the USB to the HDD? I guess because I've never really
>> messed with the BIOS in windows, aside from neccisity, I'm just worried
>> if I zero fill and for some reason my laptop reboots before the new
>> install, it won't boot from the USB anymore and thus make me have to
>> find another computer from which to install DB. This is probably a
>> rookie question, but better safe then sorry with my first full HDD
>> sanitzation. Thanks!!!
>>
>

Re: Zero filling my HDD before installation

[Ralph Sanchez]

First, my apologies to everyone I CC'ed accidently. I thought when I
replied, it was replying to the post not to each email. I'm not used
to replying to things in this manner, I usually only communicate with
people one on one unless on a forum site.

Ha- Thanks for the advice, I'll look into that option too.

Heq- Maybe it's rookie of me, but I wasn't aware of that limitation of
malware, great info. I try to operate on the condition that anything I
don't specifically try to prevent could happen, regardless of if I
think it is or will be possible. Maybe it's paranoia, or OCD. Or both
haha. I was aware of the difference between passphrase and password,
apologies if I made it seem like I didn't. I tend to use whatever
words come to mind sometimes and hope the context is enough to make it
understandable, if I made a mistake it isn't the first time : )

Mic- Thanks for the reading material, and warning about the code of
conduct. I'm usually wary of such things, but as I said, I wasn't
aware of what I was doing until after I had been told so, and thought
I fixed it the first time and apparently not so. Totally my fault and
an oversight.

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Michael Luecke
<michael-t0g...@mluecke.eu> wrote:
> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Ralph Sanchez <rwsanch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I can't find a reply to list, I tried reply all, does that work?
>
> It seems so, make sure you're replying to the list's address (here:
> "debian-user@lists.debian.org"). It's usually not neccessary to reply
> to all [1].  In this lists code of conduct [2] there's the rule, that
> one should not send a CC to the original poster unless he requested
> it.
>
>> I currently use PGP for disk encryption, I haven't delved much into
>> learning about LUKS, etc but I will now. I also don't use passphrases,
>> I use a minisd card so keylogging software can't catch me entering my
>> phrase.  Thanks for all the advice, I'm pretty sure I know what
>> direction I'm heading at this point, and I'll continue researching
>> these other encryption methods.
>
> You could use a usb drive or a SD card with a keyfile on it with
> dm-crypt/LUKS. Maybe you want to read [3] which is a quiet good howto
> for dm-crypt.
>
> Michael
>
> [1] http://david.woodhou.se/reply-to-list.html
> [2] https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/index.en.html#codeofconduct
> [3] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt
>
> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Ralph Sanchez <rwsanch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I can't find a reply to list, I tried reply all, does that work? I
>> currently use PGP for disk encryption, I haven't delved much into
>> learning about LUKS, etc but I will now. I also don't use passphrases,
>> I use a minisd card so keylogging software can't catch me entering my
>> phrase.  Thanks for all the advice, I'm pretty sure I know what
>> direction I'm heading at this point, and I'll continue researching
>> these other encryption methods.
>>
>> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 1:16 PM, heqami...@runbox.com
>> <heqami...@runbox.com> wrote:
>>> Ralph, Again, use the button reply to list.
>>>
>>> Disk encryption don't use gpg. You just have to remember a pass pharase
>>> that you use for unlock your hard disk.
>>>
>>> Installer will overwrite all your disk, but if you want you can skip
>>> this step by pressing "cancel" button
>>>
>>>
>>> please learn what gpg is and what is luks and use the reply to list button.
>>>
>>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/disk_encryption
>>>
>>
>

Re: Zero filling my HDD before installation

[Ralph Sanchez]

I can't find a reply to list, I tried reply all, does that work? I
currently use PGP for disk encryption, I haven't delved much into
learning about LUKS, etc but I will now. I also don't use passphrases,
I use a minisd card so keylogging software can't catch me entering my
phrase.  Thanks for all the advice, I'm pretty sure I know what
direction I'm heading at this point, and I'll continue researching
these other encryption methods.

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 1:16 PM, heqami...@runbox.com
 wrote:
> Ralph, Again, use the button reply to list.
>
> Disk encryption don't use gpg. You just have to remember a pass pharase
> that you use for unlock your hard disk.
>
> Installer will overwrite all your disk, but if you want you can skip
> this step by pressing "cancel" button
>
>
> please learn what gpg is and what is luks and use the reply to list button.
>
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/disk_encryption
>