Re: debian and women? from DWN #10
(sorry about the direct reply Monique) On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 06:10:56PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: I just saw this in Debian Weekly News issue ten: http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2004/debian-vote-200403/msg00067.html I guess I just wonder. I've never found any sort of hostility or difficulty in dealing with any technically-oriented online forum; if anything, I've found that some people seem to go out of their way to respond to women. Okay, I lie. I've had hostility from a couple of individuals, but I've *never* attributed it to my female-ness, and in most cases there was evidence to suggest that they were equal-opportunity flamethrowers =) Any women out there? Have you found debian and/or other OSS or technical groups to be difficult, possibly because you're female? I've never found any problems on this list when I've posted. No comments about gender and no condescension. I will say that I notice when another female posts, but as someone else said, just to say hey cool because it is rare. On the other hand, I'm not sure if anyone caught the issue on Full Disclosure. Check this link [0] to see how some females do get treated on tech lists. Bec [0] http://www.oneeyedcrow.net/securitygeekfemme.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xterm double-click to select words like cups-bsd, /var/log
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 11:51:13PM -0500, Jameson C. Burt wrote: snip HOW CAN I GET DOUBLE-CLICKED WORDS TO HIGHLIGHT EVERYTHING BETWEEN SPACES; eg, all of cupsys-bsd or all of /var/log/messages? After either double-clicking or a more awkward highlighting, I click the middle mouse button to drop (ie, copy) my words cupsys and cupsys-bsd, forming a command-line like dpkg -L cupsys cupsys-bsd |xargs zgrep -i lpadmin This is a quick way to form command-lines that would be quicker if double-clicked words were delimited not by any - or /, but by spaces only. I believe word boundaries in xterms are set by the charClass attribute. Search 'man xterm' for charClass and see if you can get something from that that can help you. HTH Bec -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: evolution usability (somewhat OT)
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 12:27:54AM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote: On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 22:50, David Palmer. wrote: On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:58:24 -0800 Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (unstable debian, evolution) I find evolution to be fairly nice MUA but: - is there a way for it to move deleted mails to trash? - is there a way for it not to show deleted emails (it shows them striked out) Hello Erik, Go to the 'view' menu, and click 'hide deleted messages.' That will solve your first two points. they don't seem to go to trash (I would like the emails from IMAP server go to trash on the same server, just like it can be set in mozilla) Shift-delete seems to do this for me. HTH, Bec -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using Japanese (and Chinese) on an prodominantly english system
Hi all, I speak a little Japanese and am now learning Mandarin. I would like to be able to read and write both languages on my computers, but leave my systems basically in English. I'm looking mostly to be reading and writing Japanese with a text editor. I use vim and do not want to learn emacs. My desktop runs gnome on sid, and the server that I ssh into to read my mail is running woody. I'd like to use Japanese on both. I've googled looking for anyone running the set-up that I want, but most of the docs are out of date, or for changing a system permanently to Japanese, or for fluent Japanese speakers (which I am not). I've installed canna, kinput2-canna, and jvim, but I don't understand how to use them. I've installed japanese fonts and generated all the japanese locales I could find, although my normal LANG et al are set to C. Which locale settings do I need to change? All of them? Is there a setting that would allow english and japanese, or do I have to keep switching. (I don't understand locales very well) Is anyone able to point me to docs that explain how to go from romaji (normal english characters) to kana and kanji? Tutorial style docs for canna and kinput2 would be very welcome. Does anyone else have a set-up like this and would be willing to share their expertise? Any tips for vimrc or muttrc to allow quick switching between english and japanese? Something extendible would be nice, so I could continue with my Mandarin. I'd be willing to write up my own howto document once I manage to figure it all out for myself. Thanks, Bec -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using Japanese (and Chinese) on an prodominantly english system
On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 11:55:40PM +0200, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 05:19:49PM -0400, Travis Crump wrote: snip vim 6.1 should handle UTF-8 or EUC for Japanese. http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-tune.en.html#s-x-cjk Doh! bilingual should have been the obvious search term - why didn't I think of that! Probably not the best way, but how I do it: At a terminal: $export LANG=ja_JP.eucJP $export LC_MESSAGES=ja_JP.eucJP He want English here for sure :) $export LC_MESSAGES=en_US.ISO-8859-1 $export LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.eucJP $export [EMAIL PROTECTED] $kinput2 -xim -kinput -canna $kterm -xim other desired options Thanks to all (particularly Travis and Osamu) I have part of the solution. I am using kinput2+canna in vim. Tried kterm and uxterm, but actually preferred mlterm and it is working well. I'd love to get it working with Eterm, but no luck so far. Next stage is mutt. At the moment I can write japanese emails, since I use vim as my editor, but I don't know if I am sending them correctly, and I can't read the japanese in the emails I send. It comes up as escape sequences thus: \272\243\306\374\244\317. I assume I need to work with the settings charset, send_charset and maybe allow_8bit? Setting charset to eucJP didn't seem to help. I believe I can have a list of charsets in send_charset. What do people recommend? I installed a backported mutt version 1.5.4 on my woody mail server as I read somewhere that multilingual support is only in version 1.4 and higher. Is that correct? Or do I need to install the backported mutt-utf8 as someone else told me, and change to a different encoding? For those who read Japanese (if it works): Æɤá¤ì¤Ð¡¢¤ªÊÖ»ö²¼¤µ¤¤¡£¤¢¤ê¤¬¤È¤¦¡£ Thanks for the help so far. I will be documenting myy set-up once it's there for anyone interested. I'll let you know the URL when it's done. Bec -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] SSL certificates and daylight savings
Hi all, This is not particularly related to debian but I hoped some SSL experts out there could satisfy my curiousity. Over the weekend I was trying to connect to my online banking (National Australia Bank) and get a certificate error about not recognising the issuer of the certificate for the page. This happened on all browsers (galeon, netscape 4.7, 7) except IE 6. The certificate had been valid since May and I had connected to the site the week before with no problems. I realise I could have accepted the certificate and continued, but I was a little hesitant to do so (being my bank account and all). Anyway, I called the bank's technical support line to see if they knew about the problem and they told me it was related to daylight savings and would be fixed when their technical experts came in on Monday, but he assured me there was no security problem with the site. Now Melbourne did switch to daylight savings time in the early hours of Sunday morning, and they did manage to fix the problem by Monday afternoon, but I'm still curious as to what would cause that problem. Does anybody know if a switch to daylight savings could cause a problem with a site's certificate at all, let alone one with that error? BTW - the working certificate today appears to have the same issuer as the problematic one yesterday. TIA for satisfying my curiousity Bec -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] SSL certificates and daylight savings
On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 10:31:23AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Rebecca Dridan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.10.28.1004 +0100]: Does anybody know if a switch to daylight savings could cause a problem with a site's certificate at all, let alone one with that error? I would assume this to be the bank's fault. SSL and certificates are not affected by daylight savings time as they operate with UTC time inside. UTC knows none of that daylight savings crap. The bank's fault, yes, but what circumstances on the banks server (related to daylight savings) would give a I don't recognise this issuer error? bec -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
onboard Ac'97 chipset was: Re: problem with sound card from a newbie
On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 02:13:46AM -0500, Kent West wrote: SNIP Run modconf and see if there's a module available for the 82440MX. You'll either need such a module loaded (lsmod shows only the ethernet nic module loaded), or you'll need support for that chipset compiled directly into the kernel (which would probably only be the case if you've compiled your own kernel and included that support, which you seem to indicate that you've done). If the kernel sources or modules don't work properly, you may need to use an outside driver, such as the alsa drivers. I had to do this for my onboard AC'97 chipset (via8233). Kent Kent (or anyone else who knows), How did you get your onboard AC'97 chipset (via8233) working? I've just bought a Gigabyte GA-7VRX motherboard with this chip and can't get sound working. I'm running woody, with kernel 2.4.19 (from kernel-source-2.4.19-1) and I tries installing the alsa packages, but every time I got the via8233 module (and it's dependancies) loaded, my whole system froze - network, keyboard - hard reset necessary. I can't find any relevant messages in the logs. If it is of any relevance, I'm running the NVIDIA kernel and GLX modules for my GeForce 4MX. If you've got step-by-step instructions, or some hints for where to look, I'd appreciate it. Thanks, Bec -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ipchains log
Hi, I'm just setting up a masquerading firewall and I'm getting some log messages I don't completely understand like the follwing: pluto kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=1 210.86.82.93:3 xx.xx.xx.xx:3 . I've found out that that's an ICMP packet, with type Desination Unreadable and code Port Unreachable, but I'm not sure what this means. Is it important, and is there any way of stopping it? Thanks Bec
Re: ipchains log
On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 08:47:11PM -0500, Stephen Gran wrote: Thus spake Rebecca Dridan: Hi, I'm just setting up a masquerading firewall and I'm getting some log messages I don't completely understand like the follwing: pluto kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=1 210.86.82.93:3 xx.xx.xx.xx:3 . I've found out that that's an ICMP packet, with type Desination Unreadable and code Port Unreachable, but I'm not sure what this means. Is it important, and is there any way of stopping it? Thanks Bec Try this site: http://logi.cc/linux/NetfilterLogAnalyzer.php3 You can just plug in the log line and it will analyze it for you. Unfortunately it doesn't tell me what the analysis means. That's where I got the type and code information from but I still don't know the packets purpose, or whether I can just keep DENYing them. Bec Neat! Steve -- Old timer, n.: One who remembers when charity was a virtue and not an organization.
Re: Finding missing packages
On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 05:00:45PM -0600, DvB wrote: jennyw [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've recenlty posted some upgrade woes (Potato to Woody) ... I've noticed that I have quite a few packages missing that I expected to be present. I seem to have limited fonts in X for one thing (no sans serif, for example). SNIP Also, I'm a bit unfamiliar with all the packages ... there might be more missing than just X related stuff. I know the Debian installer installs a lot of stuff without mentioning specific package names (it might in the advanced mode which I haven't used) ... is there a way to get a list of packages the installer installs by default? And also the packages that correlate with the general names it uses? if you run apt-get with the -u option, it should give you a list of packages that it's about to upgrade and prompts you whether or not to proceed. I don't know how to do this automatically, I usually just add the -u by hand... I suppose you could set up an alias in your shell profile. Read the man pages for dpkg, apt-get and apt-cache for more useful ways to see package info (you might also want to visit http://packages.debian.org). To automatically get the output that apt-get -u displays, you need a line like Apt::Get::Show-Upgraded true; in either /etc/apt/apt.conf, or in a file under /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ (I'm not totally sure on the conventional structure for this directory). HTH Bec
Re: nameserver problems SOLVED
Thanks for all your help people. I eventually managed to get it working. I found I didn't have the reverse in-addr-arpa set up properly for the external IP. Thanks again Bec On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 03:41:20PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: * Rebecca Dridan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2001.11.05 09:33:28+1100]: I can connect using ssh to the machine from outside, when I nmap it, it says port 53 is open and there is nothing in my firewall logs to say anything is getting blocked. My ISP assure me that they are not blocking port 53. it's quite conceivable that your bind only allows queries from the internal net. would you send me your named.conf privately, possibly with the official IP of the server? -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^.*|tr * mailto:; [EMAIL PROTECTED] stay the patient course. of little worth is your ire. the network is down.
nameserver problems
Hi all, I'm having some problems with the nameserver on a webserver I am setting up at a company I work for. I'm running bind from potato, and the machines on the internal network can use my server as a name server, no problems, but when I try and set my machine up at home to query this server to test it, I get connection timed out, no servers found. I can connect using ssh to the machine from outside, when I nmap it, it says port 53 is open and there is nothing in my firewall logs to say anything is getting blocked. My ISP assure me that they are not blocking port 53. I'd like to be sure the nameserver is working before I get all our domains redelegated. Can anyone tell me if a nameserver won't work if it is not being pointed to by something outside? It has it's own static IP, but I'm not sure is a nameserver needs to be declared or registered it some way. Other than that, can anyone tell me how to track down the problem? I can't use traceroute as I normally would because there is no problem seeing and connecting to the machine normally and I can't find any helpful options to dig or nslookup. Thanks, Bec
Re: nameserver problems
On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 12:25:15AM +0100, j wrote: On Sunday 04 November 2001 23:33, Rebecca Dridan wrote: I can connect using ssh to the machine from outside, when I nmap it, it says port 53 is open did you run the portscan from the Internet ? try ... nmap -p 53 -sU -P0 I get Port State Service 53/udp opendomain Are there any errors in /var/log/daemon.log when starting bind ? Nothing unusual Is it possible that bind is only listening on one interface? All internal machines connect through eth1 which has an internal IP, 192.168.0.1. External machines that try to use the external IP are failing. Thanks for your help Bec not sure is a nameserver needs to be declared or registered it some way. It will work without, but every decent registrar offers automatic registration of DNS servers with internic. atleast dotster does. -- BOFH excuse #419: Repeated reboots of the system failed to solve problem -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: network card detected but module fails
| On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 03:31:05PM -0700, sucks the bag wrote: | | | | i'm trying to install debian onto a friend's amd-k7 from the potato | | cdroms. his network card says it's a d-link dfe-530tx, and sure | | enough, running lspci -v gives: | | | | [snip non-relevant devices] | | | | 00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: VIA technologies, Inc. : Unknown device 3065 (rev 43) I've just had the same problem. Apparently this revision of the card needs the via-rhine driver from Donald Becker's site. The one with the kernel is too old. You will need to go and download the driver (sorry I forget the site, www.scyld.com/network ?), making sure you have one version 1.07 or later, and compile it yourself. I heard rumours that there was a driver in the 2.4 kernels that would work but I haven't tried this myself. The self compiled one at least installs. HTH Bec
Re: Galeon/Mozilla Woody Debs
Hi On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 01:51:35AM -0500, Nate Custer wrote: Hey all, I just switched to debian from redhat and am looking for a source of Galeon/Mozilla .debs for woody. I just upgraded to Woody and in the process had to find a non-ximian version of galeon. After some searching for compatible galeon/mozilla packages, I ended up using the patched debs from http://christophe.barbe.online.fr/debian/ No problems so far. Bec
Re: Bash/Perl weirdness
As a rough guess, was that a dos/MS file? I've had very confusing scripts like that before that couldn't find /usr/bin/perl^M, because of that control character. If this was the case, putting -w after the invocation would fix it as you said. HTH Bec Personal reply as per your Reply-To On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 04:05:21PM +0200, Eugene van Zyl wrote: Hi, Question: I've got a perl script with the following permissions: -rwxr-xr-x1 root root23980 Aug 13 15:55 data_update.pl the first line in the script is: #!/usr/bin/perl which is where perl lives on Debian potato - perl -V gives the correct reponse ... but # ./data_update.pl gives me: bash: ./data_update.pl: No such file or directory What gives? What obvious thing am I missing here cause other scripts run fine. TAI, Eugene van Zyl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: viewer
On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 12:14:32AM +0200, Markus Hansen wrote: hi guys does anyone know which program i can use to view pdf, ghostscript and postscropt files? thank you for helping markus Try xpdf, acroread, xv, gv. See which you like. Bec
Re: Mutt Question
On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 07:17:11AM -0400, Todd V . Rovito wrote: I have procmail set up to filter my mail into folders for the list servers I belong to. Some days I just don't have the time to read the mail in that particular folder (or list server), I would like to be able to perform a mass delete in that folder. What keys can I use in mutt to delete all the messages out of a folder? In the folder type T and it will ask you to tag messages matching what pattern. Type . (thats a period) to match everything. Then ; and d, to delete all tagged messages. If you meant doing it automatically, you'll have to ask someone else, though it has come up before. HTH Bec
Re: Folders in Mutt
On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 04:37:57PM +1000, Sam Varghese wrote: I am a newbie to mutt - after flirting with a dozen or more GUI mail programs. I have managed to configure most of what I want in mutt but the setting up of folders just beats me. I'd like to have a few folders into which I can move mail after reading but if the mail supposed to go there does so automatically I wouldn't mind either. I have a fairly basic Mutt setup. If I want to save a message to a folder I just press s, then the name of the folder. Folders are all under ~/mail/ If the folder doesn't exist, it asks whether it should create it. I've included the relevant bits of my .muttrc below, the mailboxes line sets which mailboxes/folders will be checked for new mail. There are lots of web sites around with good examples of .muttrc files. I'm sure someone will chime in with URLs. To automatically sort the mail when it is received, I use procmail, but there are better people on the list to explain procmail setup. HTH Bec --- .muttrc --- set tmpdir=~/tmp # directory for temporary files set folder=~/mail # directory with all mail folders set postponed=~/mail/postponed-msgs set alias_file=~/.mutt.aliases source ~/.mutt.aliases folder-hook . set sort=mailbox-order folder-hook debian- set sort=threads folder-hook systers set sort=threads mailboxes ! =rootmail =debian-announce =debian-news =flite =systers-students =systers =debian-devel =debian-user =auscert ## ## VARIABLES: ## set confirmcreate # set: prompt for confirmation on creation of folders ---
Re: Adding a user to a group
On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 07:50:19AM -0400, Nathan Weston wrote: SNIP Oops, I meant to post back to the list... is there a reason that the list address isn't in the reply-to by default, like it is on most lists? Anyway, now that I've logged out and back in, everything works fine. Thanks. Nathan Check the recent thread Re: the format (or lack thereof) of the list Also see http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html Bec
Re: man command made easy?
On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 10:59:23AM -0700, Paul Mackinney wrote: All that Will said about the man pages is true, and I completely agree about the need for examples; I to have wasted hours fighting syntax errors, all the while with an ugly feeling that I might not even be trying the right command or option. General advice based on things I've done: 1. Use less as you man pager, learn the search tools. 2. Start by searching manpages for 'example'. 3. Use info -- it will run man-pages for programs that don't have info pages, and programs that do have info pages usually have good documentation. And for those who, like me, don't like the key bindings in info, check out pinfo, apt-get install pinfo. Bec
Re: Adding a user to a group
On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 08:17:40PM -0400, Nathan Weston wrote: How do I add a user to a group? I want to give my user account access to cdrom, audio, etc without doing chmod a+rw on the relevant files. adduser username groupname ie adduser blah audio HTH Bec
Re: Adding a user to a group
On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 08:33:50PM -0400, Nathan Weston wrote: Done, thanks. But, in order to access /dev/dsp for audio, I still have to 'newgrp audio' or 'sg audio -c [command]', and enter a password. The problem here is that I want, for example, artsd, which is started automatically by kde, to have access to /dev/dsp. Is there a way to do this without entering a password (and preferably wi/o having to wrap commands in sg)? Thanks, Nathan (It's always better to post back to the list, as you have more people who can answer your questions - they may have more idea than me too) You can be part of more than one group at a time. Just make sure you have logged out and back in again to effect the changes of the adduser command. You shouldn't need to explicitly log in to a new group to have audio access. If that doesn't do what you needed, it's time to hand off to someone on the list more knowledgable than me :) Bec On Monday 16 July 2001 08:26 pm, Rebecca Dridan wrote: On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 08:17:40PM -0400, Nathan Weston wrote: How do I add a user to a group? I want to give my user account access to cdrom, audio, etc without doing chmod a+rw on the relevant files. adduser username groupname ie adduser blah audio HTH Bec
papd(netatalk) help!
Hi all, I recently upgraded from slink to potato. This seems to have broken papd (among other things), the Appletalk printer interface. Initially papd complained about the lack of a file called lock. After 'creating' this file in the printer spool directory it now is now producing the message: lp_conn_unix connect /dev/printer: Connection refused Which makes sense as /dev/printer does not exist. Should it? I'm using lprng and have heard this could be causing the problem. Has anyone else had problems printing from Macs after an upgrade? Any suggestions would be welcome. If you need any more info please ask. TIA Bec