Re: can't install buzz!
Hamish Moffatt wrote: Any ideas? I want to install buzz to test the auto-upgrade. Might have to use rex disks. All the hardware I have is an IDE hard drive, a floppy drive, an ISA IDE controller, a Trident 8900CL video card, and a 486DX2-66 overdrive chip, and 16mb RAM. It doesn't seem to be crashing because of some hardware fault, just a bad kernel probe. That's a ways back. I had that happen. *If* I remember correctly it had to do with using the dma channels to access the EIDE. I believe I got the error from not allowing the PCI BIOS to handle the interupts for the EIDE. It was either that or due to using LBA instead of normal. One of those. I know I fixed it in the BIOS settings pertaining to the EIDE. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: subscribe
Sten Anderson wrote: Rick Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You're 100% right. I would, however, assume it means a Linux extended (type 85) partition not a DOS extended partition (type 5). Now I am confused. What is the difference? You got me. Could it be a difference in the way the boot sector and partition table are constructed and read? There's a problem creating DOS 6x partitions with Linux fdisk, although Linux is more versitile, I would think it needs it's own partition info to work correctly, unless it's umsdos. When you say make root FS an extended partition you really mean a logical partition dont you? (You cannot put a filesystem on an extended partition). As I saud, it was a while ago. When I was messing with using lilo to boot multi-os's, like 2 years ago. I remember an issue with extended partitions which is probably a given that logical partitions is meant since they go hand in hand. Seems to me that DOS fdisk wouldn't make the linux partition bootable if it wasn't a primary partition and it also wouldn't recognise the bootable flag set by Linux fdisk. Something like that. I also vaguely remember debates on this issue. IIRC the conclusion was that to Linux there is no difference. All Linux needs to know is where the partitions begins and ends. The distinction between logical and physical partitions only matters to the bootloader (and hey, it works for me!). That's the bottom line. If it works, and you don't get filesystem contamination, go with it. The only reason to use extended partitions is that most OS's don't like more than 4 partitions. Like I said above, Linux doesn't care if the partitions are logical or physical. I understand this. I use a primary DOS (VFAT), primary Linux, and extended Linux, not DOS, if I need an extended partition. So I've never thought of using Linux on a DOS partition, other than umsdos, and have no idea if it's good for another use or not so I asked. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xinetd not starting -- where is rpc.portmap?
William R. Ward wrote: I just figured out and fixed this on my system last night. I run a fairly bleeding edge hamm - I have my own mirror and I upgrade about once a week. The new version of netbase renames rpc.portmap to portmap, but xinetd has not been made aware of this yet. The fix is to edit the file /etc/init.d/xinetd and change 'rpc.portmap' to 'portmap' and it works fine. I'm sure xinetd will be updated soon to make this the default. This was also the case in bo. I believe it is in the doc's as well. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Remote X-term
Adalberto da Silva wrote: Hello! I have access to my university's Sun workstations via ppp connection with my a dynamic IP. I can contact reach the internal network with ftp or telnet and work at prompt mode at every machine I have permission. Is this possible to launch a remote x-term and start working with all that nice X-Windows frontend at the Sun workstations? Can I log on from my home Linux box to the Sun Solaris at office and work exactly as if I was on my chair at the university (well, don't consider a dropped phone line or that noisy and slow connection...)? Absoluetely. If you are running an X server locally you can telnet over, set DISPLAY=machine:0 in the environment and start any X program and the display will be put on your local server. If XDM is running on the remote you can do a direct query to it from your local machine and login as if on the console. I beleive it's startx -query remotehost or startx -- -query remotehost I forget which one. But the localhost has to be authorized to login to the remote in the /etc/X11/xdm/access file first. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Can't ftp to ftp.debian.org
G. Dale Miller wrote: When I try to connect to ftp.debian.org I get the following messages. bash-2.01$ ftp ftp.debian.org Connected to santanni.cc.gatech.edu. 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection ftp I know there was a problem with spam on the lists recently. Are these sites blocking connection attempts that come from locations with a numeric IP address now. When I connect to other sites it shows me connecting as my static IP address. I can ftp to all other places I have tried but cannot connect to ftp.debian.org or master.debian.org. I installed the ipmasq package arounf the time I started having these problems but completly purged this package thinking that it was my problem. The only other difference might be that I installed xinetd around the same time. You might have the same problem another poster had. Edit the /etc/init.d/xinetd file and change rpc.portmap to portmap and restart xinetd. I noticed I couldn't ftp when xinetd isn't running also. I was too lazy to look into exactly which service in xinetd was causing it. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Perl 5.004.04-3 Coredump problem SOLVED!!!
Neilen Marais wrote: HI all You might remember me moaning about adduser and some other things breaking when I upgrade from the bo perl 5.003summin to the newest hamm perl. But then, spurred on by writing this E-Mail, I suddenly find the solution Looking at the ldd perl bit I see libgdbm.so.1 = /opt/kde/lib/libgdbm.so.1 (0x40015000) /opt/kde/lib?? How dit THAT happen? Anyway, check /etc/ld.so.conf, nothing there. Do set | grep LD, and VOILA sp?, it was set in my LDCONFIG. Now of course I had no idea that the env var was looked at before ld.so.conf, or why on EARTH the kde package includes a libgdbm.so.1!! Well, at least I learnt something today :) (actually stricty speaking yesterday as it was just midnight) You solved a problem that has been driving me nuts for a couple of days now. Everytime I tried to use dselect to upgrade some of the other hamm packages it would segfault right after it tried to connect to the ftp site. I had it narrowed down to something in perl but couldn't find it. I didn't even think of the lib's. I was just about to write an email to the list asking if anybody knew what this was and saw your post sitting there and read it. Low and behold, I removed the LD_LIBRARY_PATH and CPP_PATH and she's a workin again. Yes. I too used the deb's from the KDE site. Against a warning from somebody on this list, but the Debian KDE was outdated so I went for it. Good work. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Remote X-term
Tim Thomson wrote: You also have to tell your local machine that the remote can access the display, else the server can't connect to the client. Can't remember the file to config, haven't done this for awhile. I want to do this again, with IP-masquerading, I have a 486 behind a 386, and run X-Win on the 486 only. I want remote computers to connect to the 486 - X-Win only. Your right. I haven't don it in quit a while either. I'm pretty sure it's the same file. /etc/X11/xdm/access I'll double check and let you know. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Remote X-term
Tim: Letting you know that it is not the /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess file that allows access from remote clients. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: subscribe
Sten Anderson wrote: Sven Garbade [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. First, the Linux Loader LILO doesn't work correctly. # LILO configuration file # # Start LILO global section lock boot = /dev/hda Try boot=/dev/hda2 You can get the old MBR back with fdisk /MBR (the fdisk from DOS) Partition table (fdisk): Disk /dev/hda: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 1023 cylinders Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 bytes Device Boot BeginStart End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 *11 204 411232+ 6 DOS 16-bit =32M /dev/hda2 205 205 1022 16490885 Extended /dev/hda5 * 205 205 24582624+ 83 Linux native ^ | Only one partition should be active. With my above suggestion, it should be hda2 Also. Maybe this is a typo or something, but your /dev/hda2 and /dev/hda5 seem to be ocupying the same area of the disk. Not to mention you are wanting to make an extended partion bootable *not* the linux partition. Looks to me like your partition table is hosed up. Your cfdisk printout doesn't even show /dev/hda2. boot=/dev/hda is correct if lilo is in the boot sector not the partition. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: subscribe
Sten Anderson wrote: Also. Maybe this is a typo or something, but your /dev/hda2 and /dev/hda5 seem to be ocupying the same area of the disk. That is not a typo. The extended partition _includes_ the logical partitions. You got me there. I had a damned brain cramp. Here is a print of my _working_ disk layout (from linux fdisk) /dev/hda111 261 20964516 DOS 16-bit =32M /dev/hda2 * 262 262 524 2112547+ 5 Extended /dev/hda5 262 262 27072261 82 Linux swap /dev/hda6 271 271 524 2040223+ 83 Linux native I have lilo in the bootsector of /dev/hda2 (an extended partition). Not to mention you are wanting to make an extended partion bootable *not* the linux partition. That is the correct way to do it according to the Lilo manual. You cannot put lilo in the bootsector of a logical partion. In that case lilo must reside in the bootsector of the enclosing extended partition. You're 100% right. I would, however, assume it means a Linux extended (type 85) partition not a DOS extended partition (type 5). boot=/dev/hda is correct if lilo is in the boot sector not the partition. You are mixing the concepts. /dev/hda is the MBR, not a bootsector. Lilo can reside in the MBR, but the Lilo manual warns against it. Got me again. I guess I wasn't awake when I wrote that. Just a heads up, since I can't find the doc I read it in, that I read someplace, long time ago, might not even apply any more, that it isn't a good idea to make your root file system an extended partition. I assumed this refered to extended partitions not being bootable, but I'm fuzzy on the subject. Evidently fuzzy on a lot of things today. I don't understand why anybody would want to put a *Linux* *primary* partition inside a *DOS* *extended* partition anyway. The idea sends me some real negitive vibs. Maybe totally unfounded. If there's some advantage to this could somebody let me know what it is? I may find a need for a similar setup in the future. BTW. Putting lilo in the MBR isn't advised against, it just means you have to restore the MBR if you ever uninstall lilo. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: hacker attack: leaves .BitchX dir in root's home
Carlos: BitchX is an IRC program that put's a directory called .BitchX in the users home directory. Either you have this and have used it or your hacker used it as root. Of course a hacker may have just created it so it might look normal in your directory. What's in the directory? Carlos Carvalho wrote: My site has been atacked by a hacker using a method that leaves a directory .BitchX (or something close) in root's home dir. It gets the user/password combination of any user that telnet, ftp or use pop3 to get to the machine (no ssh). What's the security hole that's being exploited? At first the attacker didn't have the root password. Any help is greatly appreciated. This is urgent... Carlos -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: X-win more effiecient than Win95?
Orn E. Hansen wrote: No, Windows is not an interface... and it's a lot more than just a GUI, it's an operating system as well (as of Win95, WinNT). The box that you buy when you buy Windoze 95 contains an operating system which is called Windows 95. That box contains MSDOS 7.0 and Windows GUI. Most ppl refer to the GUI as the whole enchalada, thus a GUI OS but that is not the case. MS just packaged the 2 together and called them Windows 95 OS. Just examine the startup sequence or go to MS's web site and get the toys package that has a control panel addition which gives you several options about the hidden functions, one of wich allows you to boot into GUI or DOS prompt. Additionally if it was the OS there wouldn't be an option in the preferences of a DOS program to hide windows from DOS programs nor the need to reboot into DOS for other programs. And that's right, you need to compare X+Window manager, not just X which was the issue. True. Because of the way Windoze is programmed. Otherwise you can benchmark X without a window manager. But Windoze won't run without it's window manager counterpart Explorer since there is no way to run programs without it. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: divide the list in beginners and advanced
Remco Blaakmeer wrote: On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, John Spence wrote: I like the list the way it is aswell! :) Sometimes I do and sometimes not. I'm sure it is possible to parse the subject line at the list server or the client end for keywords like config or compile etc. and forward them to either an advanced list/mailbox or basic list/mailbox. Ask that users put the appropriate keyword in the subject and return a message with keywords if there isn't a recognisable keyword in the subject. Then ppl could subscribe to one or both lists and only the appropriate messages will go to the specific list, or as close as possible. I have been on this list for 2 years or so now and noticed that this subject comes up like once a month. The answer that most other long-time list subscribers seem to give is that the more experienced users would drop the basic list and leave a bunch of newbies answering eachothers questions. I don't think so. Some of the guru's enjoy helping others. The ones that don't are most likely not subscribed to this list anyway. Some don't consider themselves that experienced and will remain subscribed to basic out of modesty, even though they are more than experienced enough to help the beginners. So, I think the best way to split the list (if it happens) is to have a single address to send to with 2 (or more basic/interm/advanced etc.) outgoing lists from the list server after parsing the subject line. There would be no more email than there is now since the server would parse the email and newbies could subscribe to all the lists if they want to get the scoop on more advanced topics. Additionally, MAYBE! the server could watch for the same subject from the same user x times and upgrade the message to the next evel since it doesn't seem to be answered in the current level. This is probably too much trouble to accomplish acurately for anybody to want to fool with, but it's a thought. Yes, I do to. I do think that a lot of general Linux questions that aren't particularly Debian specific are posted here but that is only because in my opinion, the quality of the answers provided is higher than can be found in newsgroups. Yes, the Debian community is very fortunate to have such high-quality mailing lists. I agree 100%. I've been on the internet for about 4 years, I guess, and I think this is absolutely the best bunch of folks on the internet. There's some cock-fighting, posturing, bitching and flaming from some of us at times, but this list is still the best there is. Have a good one. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: X-win more effiecient than Win95?
Remco Blaakmeer wrote: Yes, and the functions are not really hidden, they're just not documented. But heck, what _is_ documented in Win95? The trouble shooting help doesn't get you far beyond is the printer switched on? and check that the cable is plugged in. Very true. I think they might have left out the important stuff to keep non-power users from getting wise to their little game of shells right off the bat. Additionally if it was the OS there wouldn't be an option in the preferences of a DOS program to hide windows from DOS programs nor the need to reboot into DOS for other programs. And those are the options you don't have on aa WinNT system. WinNT is an OS. Exactly. I'm sure (foolish?!?) that they are going to come through with a genuine graphical OS in the upcoming iteration of Windoze (98 - 99?) since there has been quite a bit of talk concerning the piece of beta crap they shipped in those Windoze boxes. Well, I have seen Win95 boxes where the explorer took very long to start up, probably due to network problems. I noticed that, before the explorer is started, Ctrl-Esc works like in Win3.x and gives you the task manager which lets you run any program (including exporer, which can be very convenient if you're having problems). Remco That may be due to explorer actually running but not displayed, but I'll have to check that out. Even so I doubt it's stable at all. Hell, Windoze isn't really stable when it's loaded normally =) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Trying to fix a mistake in upgrading Netscape...
Curt Howland wrote: Good afternoon. I tried to install Netscape Communicator, and received the error that it needed libc6, which I do not have. So I went back to use the old netscape 3.01 (i think) that I had been using, but it seems to have been partially purged. Hmm. I use Communicator 4.03 with libc5. Is this a new version? I say partially, because when I went to install v3.04, I got the following message: ian# dpkg -i netscape_3.01-4.deb (Reading database ... 19956 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking netscape (from netscape_3.01-4.deb) ... - This release is for a different version of netscape than the one installed. Please 'dpkg --purge netscape netscape-beta' and reinstall this package. You will need the original 3.01 source archive from Netscape to do this. Place the source archive in /tmp. dpkg: error processing netscape_3.01-4.deb (--install): subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: netscape_3.01-4.deb Did you have the netscape...tar to install in your /tmp directory? If I remember right that is where it must be to use the .deb install script. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problem dialing in w/AutoPPP/PAP! Help!
Peter Iannarelli wrote: Hello Guys: It took me some time to get dial-in ppp working as well. In pap-secrets I has to adjust the following line. * beagle to * * Peter This kind of entry would allow everybody access to your system without a password. So Joe down the street who knows a username but doesn't have his own account can use any other account he wants. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Mail problem
Rick Jones wrote: Pete: I have been able to get my email to go through. There has most definately been a change someplace, here. I had to use the reply-to field and change my from to my systems idea of who I am for it to work. This means that anybody without a static IP, domain name, etc. has to convolute their setup just to use the list. Or login to their own system with the same username as their ISP email and use their ISP mailer for outbound mail. I've been on this mailing list since bo was a babe in the unstable tree and I never used reply-to like this. I don't see how a newbie is going to be able to get advise if their email isn't even getting put on the list, and they aren't being sent anything from the mailer daemon telling them this is happening. I don't intend to sound like I'm bitching. I just have 0 tact skills. I do think this is a major problem, though. I don't know if it's some kind of upgrade you've done to the lists mailer or if it's something in sendmail's config on my end, since I've never used that qmail and I hate screwing with sendmail so I do as little as I can with it. Maybe this was actually a bug in previous versions not to include x-envelope-sender and from fields but it is sure throwing a wrench in the gears now. Seems to me there should be an option to stop qmail from checking for matching x-sender and x-from envelope entries. I suspect this is a kind of spam killer but it is also killing a default newbie configuration for sending mail to the list. What are your thoughts? I am CCing this to the list in case somebody else is having this problem. Not to start a huge thread about spamming and tuff-luck for newbies. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
elf-xlib
Can anybody point me to the elf-xlib package? I assume this is the cause of constant segmentation faults since updating my hamm install last night. If not let me know if you have an answer. It only seems to effect starting X programs using rxvt. Starting them from the window managers menus works fine. L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Hamm?
Hello all: I've been out of the loop for quite a while. How do I install Hamm? When I use debian/hamm for the start point and use hamm non-free contrib for packages I get the packages files but when I tell dselect to fetch it goes looking for a dists/main directory for every file, which it says doesn't exist. This is using the ftp.debian.org site. I must be missing something here, can anybody enlighten me here? L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
SB Sound driver full duplex?
Does anybody know if the current SB Sound driver is full duplex or not? I'm trying to get speak freely working and I get audio device errors when I try to use speaker and mike at the same time. L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Video confrencing.
Is there any kind of video confrencing program, like CU-SeeMe, in deb format? I can't find anything like this any place. L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Speak-Freely 6.1b-2 problem
(SB16 card Debian 1.3 current) I have decided to get speak freely working but when I run sfmike it takes over /dev/audio after the first talk. It switches to pause but retains controle of the device which sfspeaker tries to use when receiving but can't because it's busy. I've RTFM's but see no fix. When I first start sfmike /dev/audio is free until I press space to talk the first time. I'm also curious about the recording overrun error. Debug: sfmike -d echo.fourmilab.ch Space bar switches talk/pause, Esc or q to quit Talk: Sent 1024 audio samples in 1024 bytes. Sent 1024 audio samples in 1024 bytes. Sent 1024 audio samples in 1024 bytes. Sent 1024 audio samples in 1024 bytes. Sent 1024 audio samples in 1024 bytes. Sent 1024 audio samples in 1024 bytes. Sent 1024 audio samples in 1024 bytes. Sent 1024 audio samples in 1024 bytes. Sent 1024 audio samples in 1024 bytes. Pause: Sound: Recording overrun sfspeaker: 06-11 16:30 bavard.fourmilab.ch connect sfspeaker: root sending from bavard.fourmilab.ch. sfspeaker: bavard.fourmilab.ch sending in Speak Freely protocol. opening audio output device: Device or resource busy opening audio output device: Device or resource busy Tick: 10.00... Wed Jun 11 16:31:19 1997 Does anybody have a clue? L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
SGVAlib/SVGAdummy
If SVGAdummy replaces SVGAlib why are there dependancy prblems with gs etc? Will these SVGAlib dependant programs run without SVGAlib if the dummy is installed? What is the scoop on that? L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Non-interactive modem hangup
atc1d2 fixes these problems which isn't the factory default. The d2 tells it to hangup, with autoanswer inhibited, when DTR is droped. On Sun, 8 Jun 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7 Jun 1997, John Goerzen wrote: Just killing pppd will do it unless your modem isn't set up properly. Then my modem isn't set up properly. I got a private email mentioning something about how the modem should automatically hangup once DTR is dropped, which happens if modem is given as an option to pppd. It is in my case, so the problem lies with my modem. I've got a Hayes Accura 144B + FAX, so once I dig up the manual I'll come back to the list with my solution. -- G. Branden Robinson Purdue University [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: PPP Compression: Useful or Useless?
On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Bruce Perens wrote: Note that most modems these days make V.42 compression, which is LZW. BSD compression would be redundant. Van Jacobsen compression is, however, good to use on a V.42 connection. It takes advantage of the redundancy of frame information in a point-to-point connection from one packet to the next to reduce the size of the header. I was looking at the man page for pppd and see a way to disable VJ compression but not to enable it. Is this a default that wasn't mentioned in the man page? Other defaults are mentioned but not this one. L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: X problems
On Sun, 8 Jun 1997, Will Lowe wrote: Anyway, the only modeline in my XF86Config is 640x480, but the server insists on running in it's builtin 320x200 mode. Needless to say, this is unusable ... why would it do this? I've tried hitting CTRL-ALT-+ to cycle up one mode, but nothing happens. Is there maybe a problemm with my clockchip setting? This is supposed to be autodetected, but I don't have any idea what else to try. I have a TGUI9680XGI with programmable clocks that can go beyond the servers idea of it's limits. I had to put option fast_dram in the xf86config file before it would go up to 1024 at 16 bpp. Even though it can go higher that's the extent of the servers grace. It shows me that the current setup of my clocks etc are maxed out but that isn't true according to the spec's and Win95 settings which match the specs. The fast_dram option made the server think my clocks where faster at higher res. than it first thought and it released the higher res. Although it just caused it to use the correct clocks. Go figure. L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is xdm required?
The instal script is just giving you the option of using xdm at bootup. Just say no and you can start it manually, or any other X startup program. On 4 Jun 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: J. Goldman writes: Sorry, I'm confused. What do you mean by the statement that you don't want to be forced to activate it? Do you mean you'd like for your machine *not* to load xdm on startup? I suppose I should have said don't want to be tricked into activating it. I was concerned that upgrading xbase would result in xdm being silently activated because the maintainer assumed that no one could possibly not want it. If that's the case, just comment out the appropriate line in /etc/X11/config. After somehow recovering from the flashing screen catastrophe (I have no network, and my floppy drive just died). In any case, my fears have been put to rest. John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: making 16bpp the default in X
On Wed, 4 Jun 1997, David B. Teague wrote: Hi: A note of appreciation to several,and a continued request for help. Luke Bussanmas, Rob Browining, Brian White, and Gary Dolan (others? if so accept my apology!) have tried with varying degrees of success in helping me get Netscape running on my 1MB TVGA 9400 CXi card and KFC 15 monitor with X11R6, Debina 1.1 (with some upgrades). I am grateful to all the folk who try to help those of us who are informationally challenged. So far, I do not seem to be able to change the SVGA server from a 4 layer root window (Is this 4 bit color?). I have place the line DefaultColorDepth 16 in the XF86Config file, no difference. When you start X there is some info that scrolls on the screen just before the display goes graphic. What does this say in reference to color depth? To read it, using startx, just do ctrl-alt-fn# # being the terminal you ran startx from. There are some other options you may have to set to get 16 bit color. Read the man page on the server you're using (SVGA?) and see if it supports the depth you want. My card (TGUI9680XGI) supports 32 bit color but the SVGA server will only put it in 16 bit for some reason. Also try putting: Visual TrueColor in subsection Display L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Dead list?
Has this list died? I've received 0 messages all day and little more in the previous 2 days. What's happening here? L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Compaq modem?!?
I have a compaq presario 336 modem that isn't plug-n-play but doesn't seem to be recognised. Is their a trick to it or is it another of Compaq's little tricks to isolate their hardware? L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: crypt
On Tue, 27 May 1997, Nathan E Norman wrote: The crypt (1) algorithm is based on the German WWII era Enigma cipher - except that it's not as good. It emulates an Enigma machine with one rotor. I'll point out that the chaps at Bletchley Park cracked four rotor ciphers in the 1940s using mechanical computers. During the war there was only one way to decypher anything created this way. You had to have the machine. If these people where able to do it then where were they during the war? If you need strong encryption, take a look at PGP, or one of the RSA offerings. Or use DES (which is also available in source code, and should be available in Solaris) These are not strong encryption methods. The government and RSA want you to think they are but the fact is they aren't. I guarentee you the government can make short work of these encryption methods. PS - Many people confuse the crypt (1) command with the crypt (3) function in libc, which is used to encrypt passwords. It actually hashes them ... they cannot be decrypted. This is completely false. I don't care what is done to a password. If it is constant and repeatable, as password's need to be, then it's only a matter of time. If the method is public knowledge as with the source code to encrypt passwords, it can be decrypted in no time. These are the only methods available because of restrictions. They are by no means strong, or decryption proof. The whole idea is that not many are going to go to the extremes it takes to actually break these things. The military trains Military Intelligence soldiers to break codes up to 9 levels deep with pencil and paper. DES is only 3 levels deep. The only thing DES is used for is very low class items. They use DES to encrypt their magnetic media after it's been wiped before it's ground up with a grinder and shredded with metal shears, in a highly classified environment. I'm sure that many of you think I have no idea what I'm talking about. I wrote to RSA once and offered to help them come up with a better encryption system than they have and they blew me off too. I know because I was in Military Intelligence for 6 years. I was a trained cryptoanalyst and dealt with crypto DAILY. I dealt with the best crypto the government has daily. Anyone that doubts me when I say these encryption methods are like table scraps the government allows us to use (possibly because they can break them while having coffee) is a fool. Flame me if you like. I'll only laugh at your ignorance and government brain-washing. I have the knowledge and will spread it whenever possible because I know what the government is doing when they regulate this stuff. They want to make sure that if they can't controle the internet they can at least know what everyone is saying to each other. Do you doubt me :-) L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: /home was DESTROYED last night.
You do know that if somebody found a security hole and was able to delete your home directory with those ownerships they could also remove traces of their own login from the loging files. It would help if you told us what version you have. Did you check your messages file for any errors or su entries? --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- : From: R. Chris Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] : To: debian-user@lists.debian.org : Subject: /home was DESTROYED last night. : Date: Saturday, May 24, 1997 4:40 PM : : : When I woke up this morning I went to check my E-Mail and found : that everything in /home was gone. Directories data and everything. : To top it all the /home directory had permissions of 555 and was both : root owned and root group. / is mounted read only and there is a : core dump in the / directory. Looking at last there was no one else : logged into the system since I was working last night in my : /home/chris directory. WHAT IN THE WORLD IS GOING ON AND WHAT DO I : DO TO FIX IT? This surely doesn't give me a warm feeling about using : a system like this as a server right now. : : : -- : TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? : e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
hda: dma_intr: error=0x01
This is a posting concerning a post about a week ago. We were discussing this as a hard drive going TU or a problem with the e2fs operation. I believe it was joost that mentioned he had this problem when he had a dma conflict with a sound card. I disabled dma on my hard drive a week ago and haven't seen this error since. It had been rearing it's ugly head during cron.daily, most notably, along with a few other tasks. I have left my system up since the change so that cron.daily has run every day and I haven't seen the problem once since. Since I can't change the dma on my sound card (software configured) I guess this is the fix. Just an FYI for those involved in the earlier posting. L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at HTTP://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Where is xev?
It's in the xcontrib package. On Tue, 20 May 1997, David S. Zelinsky wrote: I have Debian v1.1 installed, and a CD with Debian 1.2 (haven't yet upgraded), and I can't find xev (or equivalent?) anywhere. Can anyone explain why, or tell me where to find it? Thanks in advance. -- David Zelinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Which program 'owns' srm.conf?
localhost# dpkg -S srm.conf apache-modules: /usr/doc/apache-modules/examples/srm.conf-fcgi apache: /usr/doc/apache/examples/srm.conf On Tue, 20 May 1997, Christian Hudon wrote: Hi, During a recent cron run, I got a complain about the file srm.conf... Could someone tell me which program uses this file? There's no manpage for it and dpkg -S doesn't know about it. Thanks, Christian L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
SGML2TXT
Does anybody know why I might get the following error? Making intro.txt from intro.sgml. standard input:252: warning: can't find font `C' Could this have anything to do with the change to the /usr/share directory for the groff etc files? I tried to grep all the files for any references to a font `C' with no luck. Any help is appreciated. L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Re[2]: Can't start xsession, help
Also check /var/log/xdm-errors errors prior to the xsession actually starting are in this log. Once the xsession is initiated logging errors goes to ~/.xsession-errors. On Mon, 19 May 1997, Zachary Payne wrote: Good question, ask your dog!, I always ask my dog my computer questions! He always answers I know it sound silly but it really works!!! __ Reply Separator _ Subject: Re: Can't start xsession, help Author: Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Internet-SMTP Date:5/19/97 10:42 AM Sergey Avvakumov wrote: Hi I have the following problem - after successful login in the xdm login window xdm starts xsession but it immediately terminates and I see xdm welcome again. I'm running Debian linux, installed less than month ago from one of mirror-debian ftp sites. I was trying to set up PPP with dynamic IP address, and for some stupid reason commented out line in /etc/hosts with name of my PC and it's IP address and then rebooted it. After doing it I can't start xsession. Actually X starts executing /etc/X11/Xsession file - I can see root window color, which is set up from there, for a second, but it won't open xterminals and quits. I guess X now considers computer as a foreign host, and it's host-control terminates the session. But then I logged in from alt console and edited /etc/hosts file back as it was, but X behaves the same way, terminates 1 second after starting. Could anybody help with this? Check for a file called .xsession-errors in your home directory. Error messages generated when you run X should go here. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How can i install new packages?
On Tue, 20 May 1997, The Good ol' tavo =) wrote: Hello to all I am a Linux newbie trying to figure out how to install packages for my system, i downloaded the debian linux by ftp on 7 disks the rescue floppy, the custom boot one, the base ones and the drivers one, then during the installation process i didn't use dselect i just continued, now my question is, do i have anything in those disks that i can add to my computer? or those disks just contained the files that linux installed? and another question, in the case that i need to download packages via ftp, i need to know how do i do that? i use windows 95 to connect to the internet and that's how i download the files, but i can't download them to my linux parition they are downloaded to the msdos one, how can i port these files to linux? or how can i tell dselect to retrieve the files from there? A desperate Linux newbie Make sure that all the internet protocols are either in your kernel or added as modules during the initial install. (PPP and TCP/IP modules) You just have to set up linux to connect to the internet. Then you run dselect using ftp access and it will download and install the packages for you. The 7 disk set is just the bare minimum Debian system. It gives you a starting point. The rest of the distribution is yet to be installed. Get the info from your Windows connection and write it down. DNS, Your IP if static, mailhost, news host, and number. Boot linux and login as root. cd /etc, edit ppp.chatscript, change the number username and password info. Insure that the expected login string is what your ISP uses (ogin or name - login or username) only use the last part to cover dropped characters. Edit ppp.options_out. If you have a dynamic IP (changes each login) make sure that this file contains defaultroute. Set /dev/ttyS1 (for com2) or whatever com port your modem is on (/dev/ttyS2=com3 etc). If there is an entry that says /dev/modem that should be replaced by the above /dev/ttyS# whichever port you are using. This is not to say that you need 2 port entries, only one, if the /dev/modem is there replace it if not just add the /dev/ttyS# replacing # with the port number. Keep in mind that if you fail to connect you can add debug to this file to see what is happening. Once you have the scripts setup for your ISP type pon and it should connect to your ISP. Then type dselect go to the access/ftp option and put in the following at the prompted input fields: ftp to ftp.debian.org user anonymous password [EMAIL PROTECTED] directory debian packages stable non-free contrib directory debian Then go to update. It will get the package lists for stable non-free and contrib. When prompted say yes to clear the list. Then go to install. Just hit return to accept the packages already marked for install. It's a good idea not to even think about changing this list on initial install, you make changes later. Then turn off your monitor and go rent a few movies. Watch a couple of movies then go to bed. Go to work the next day. When you get home it might be done if you have a 33.6 connection. Once done answer yes to install. Packages are installed, just answer yes to defaults for now unless you KNOW differently. You'll get a bunch of error about dependancies and such and install will barf on your shoes. Go back to the main menu and do install again. It won't ftp any more packages but will continue the install and barf on you again. Do this a few more times and it will finally finish. Reboot. Login as root, cd /usr/doc/HOWTO, type lynx . and start reading the HOWTO's to configure your new system. Good luck, we're here if you get stuck. L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How can i install new packages?
On Tue, 20 May 1997, Timothy Phan wrote: Rick Jones wrote: : :On Tue, 20 May 1997, The Good ol' tavo =) wrote: : : Hello to all : I am a Linux newbie trying to figure out how to install packages for my system, i downloaded the debian linux by ftp on 7 disks the rescue floppy, the custom boot one, the base ones and the drivers one, then during the installation process i didn't use dselect i just continued, now my question is, do i have anything in those disks that i can add to my computer? or those disks just contained the files that linux installed? and another question, in the case that i need to download packages via ftp, i need to know how do i do that? i use windows 95 to connect to the internet and that's how i download the files, but i can't download them to my linux parition they are downloaded to the msdos one, how can i port these files to linux? or how can i tell dselect to retrieve the files from there? : A desperate Linux newbie : :Make sure that all the internet protocols are either in your kernel or :added as modules during the initial install. (PPP and TCP/IP modules) : How do I add more modules after the intial installation? Thanks! Being new your best bet is to go back through the install and activate everything, except the blatantly obvious things you don't need like ethernet drivers for cards you don't have. L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: login installation weirdness?
On Tue, 20 May 1997, Colin Telmer wrote: Sorry about the subject line, but I don't know how to briefly describe this problem. Anyway, I have just finished installing 1.2 and everything went perfectly except that on the first virtual terminal (ALT-F1) when any user exits, /etc/issue is not read and the first prompt offered is for root's password. If I just hit enter, a complaint about an invalid root password appears and then the login prompt appears, again without parsing /etc/issue. This does not happen on any other VT. I then upgraded to 1.3 (frozen) and the same thing still happens and only happens to VT 1. I really don't know what other information I could offer to help solve this - - any ideas? Cheers, Colin. I like that idea. I hadn't thought of it before but maybe the login for that tty is set to su instead of login. Check your inittab file. I'm going to play with that idea myself. L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: May 13 instalation disk's problem (vfat)
On Mon, 19 May 1997, Eugene Sevinian wrote: It was impossible to install debian on my PC due to the fact I put distibution on w95 partition while vfat fs support was not done successfully. I got 2 string warning that it will tak up 1 minite in case that this device is not installed and stoped forever. Everything was fine in that sense with old Slak instalation from the same w95 partition. When you install include vfat. Is there any idea? Eugene Sevinian P.S. Just for curiosity ... HOw many people are participating in this mailing list? Many. L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: DOSEMU drive access problem
On Mon, 19 May 1997, Ken Lauffenburger wrote: On May 18, 6:54pm, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: Subject: Re: DOSEMU drive access problem On Sun, 18 May 1997, Ken Lauffenburger wrote: DOS-C version 0.92 [FreeDOS Release] (Build 37). Is freedos compatible with MS-DOS? According to the doc's it is almost 100% compatable. Try using msdos boot disk first. Aw, do I have to? I was just getting ready to purge the last of the M$ software from my system! Actually, good suggestion. I'll try it tonight. But does this really have anything to do with the problem? I was thinking that the emufs driver allows dosemu to access the drives via the linux device drivers, and hiding the hardware details while avoiding access conflicts with linux. If that is the case, then from a disk access point of view why should it matter which version of DOS is riding on dosemu? --ken -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Linuxdoc/sgml-tools/perlsgml
I need to use linuxdoc to write some help files, but the sgml2lyx isn't working. I get an error stating linuxdoc.dtd is missing but is is exactly where the script is looking for it. The perlsgml package is broken since the version in bo depends on perl-base and not perl. The version in unstable was corected to depend on perl or perl-base but the file is missing or named completely off the package name. From both directories now. There are files named psgml in both directories. Are the psgml files what I need and will this fix the sgml2lyx problem? If not, what's the deal with sgml2lyx? I've never used this package before so I'm clueless here. L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: X display mode setting.
Put the following in XF86Config Section Screen Driver svga Device TGUI9680XGI Monitor Magitronic SVGA - DefaultColorDepth 16 BlankTime 45 Subsection Display On Sat, 17 May 1997, Ralph Winslow wrote: I've recently added a second Mb to my Trident TGUI9440 board and am able to use 800x600 (my preferred) resolution by /etc/init.d/xdm stop; startx -bpp 16. However, following reboot, xdm starts up in 640x480 (I think) and I can't seem to get into 800x600 mode. My understanding is that CTRLALTBKSP should do this, but it doesn't seem to work. TIA for any clue. -- - Ralph Winslow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Someday soon I really MUST find a way to piss away a LOT of bandwidth on this .sig -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Installing TKnet - where to unpack it?
It depends. Usually the install in the archive will put it where it goes anyway. You can put it anyplace you want. /usr/X11R6/bin would be the normal place, I'd think. As far as unpacking it, just make a temp dir. I put mine in /Incoming. If it's a binary archive it most likely is archived with the correct directories in which case tar xvzf archive.tgz -C / will put the files in place. Note: You can controle what goes on your system with dselect as well as dpkg. On Sat, 17 May 1997, Brent Hutto wrote: I'm setting up my Debian GNU/Linux system the hard way. By that I mean that I'm adding just the packages that I need, one at a time using the dpkg tool. It's worked OK for basic stuff like man and the Xwindows packages. So far, I like the control this give me over what goes on my system. It's a bit time consuming but that's OK. Now I'm ready to install my first non-package piece of software, TKnet. I've downloaded the tknet1_1.tgz file from the TKnet site onto a floppy and now I'm ready to install. Where is the preferred place to install TKnet? There's a directory called /usr/local/bin on my system. I believe I read somewhere that putting non-Debian-supplied software there helps in maintenance down the road one day. OTOH, I also vaguely remember reading that /usr/local is for software on my particular machine that isn't in a shared-mount directory such as /usr is in some workgroup environments. Bottom line. Where would be the most standard place to put that .tgz file and unpack it? And what reasons, if any, are there to even worry about where it goes? Maybe I'm just being paranoid (my understanding of Unix in general and Linux is particular is very lacking). -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problem when compiling X-Programs
Make sure there's a -L/usr/X11R6/lib entry in the gcc args. On Sat, 17 May 1997, AUBORD Alain wrote: I am trying to compile X-Programs, but I cannot link them. I get always the messages libraries Xaw, Xmt not found. This arise when I try to compile the last version of X-Board, but I have all these libraries installed in /usr/X11R6/lib. Any help would be appreciated . A.Aubord My address: e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Surface Mail: A.Aubord System Manager Chemin d'Ecogia 16 CH-1290 Versoix Switzerland. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: X display mode setting.
On Sat, 17 May 1997, Ralph Winslow wrote: No ceegar :-( I'd already done that. I also moved the Depth 16 entry above the Depth 8 entry; still no Joy. Also, SuperProbe shows 2048 Kb - I'm tearing my hair out and have very little to spare! I assume that you are now tearing your hair out because you can't get it to start in 800x600 mode? Here's my XF86Config file to give you some hints. My display starts at 1024x768 in 16 bit color. # ** # Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set # ** Section Files # The location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the # file minus the extension (like .txt or .db). There is normally # no need to change the default. RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/PEX/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/sharefont/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ ModulePath /usr/X11R6/lib/modules EndSection Load pex5.so Load xie.so Section ServerFlags Section Keyboard ProtocolStandard AutoRepeat 500 5 XkbKeymap xfree86(us_microsoft) EndSection Section Pointer ProtocolMouseSystems Device /dev/gpmdata EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Magitronic SVGA VendorName Magitronic #Gamma 2.6 ModelName SV1428 HorizSync 31.5 - 37.9 VertRefresh 50-90 # 640x480 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync Modeline 640x480 25.175 640 664 760 800 480 491 493 525 # 800x600 @ 56 Hz, 35.15 kHz hsync ModeLine 800x600 36 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 # 1024x768 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 35.5 kHz hsync Modeline 1024x76844.9 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace # 800x600 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync #Modeline 800x600 40 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync EndSection Section Device Identifier TGUI9680XGI VendorName Jaton BoardName Video-57p Chipset tgui9660xgi VideoRam4096 Ramdac normal DacSpeed110 Option fast_dram Speedup all EndSection Section Screen Driver svga Device TGUI9680XGI Monitor Magitronic SVGA DefaultColorDepth 16 BlankTime 45 Subsection Display Depth 8 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 ViewPort0 0 Visual TrueColor Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 16 - Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 ViewPort0 0 Visual TrueColor Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 24 Modes 640x480 ViewPort0 0 Visual TrueColor Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 32 Modes 640x480 ViewPort0 0 Visual TrueColor Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection EndSection The modes, indicated by the arrow above, is what dictates the resolution order for the ctrl-alt-kp+/kp-. Since I have 1024x768 listed first it is my default resolution. When I cycle through the resolutions it goes down to 800x600 then 640x480. kp+/kp- refers to the keypad plus and minus keys. They cycle forward and backward through the resolutions. (With ctrl-alt pressed) Hope this helps. L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: getting the modem to work.... and PPPD
On Sun, 18 May 1997, Tj Johnston, N4UYQ wrote: I assume the system is attempting to run pppd with /dev/modem as the communications device... unfortunately it appears that /dev/modem has not been defined... How do I define it? also I was playing a little, and ran pppd with /dev/ttys1 and received this error also: This is correct. Use ttyS1 not modem. Sorry - this system lacks PPP kernel support This means the module wasn't loaded, I'm guessing. When you did the driver installation did you include ppp and TCP/IP modules? According to DSELECT... PPP has been installed. what gives? 72/73, dselect only tells you the software that is on, or not on, your hard drive. It has no idea if it's in your kernel. Also, this ppp is pppd, the daemon needed to use the ppp protocol over a link. The kernel needs to have ppp capabilities either compiled in or installed via module to utilize the pppd daemon and vise-versa. I hope this helps. L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: X display mode setting.
On Sat, 17 May 1997, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: You can also put this in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers: :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 tty5 -bpp 16 I sure can. I prefer to have all my configuration options in my config files though. If I were running multiple displays I would use this method. L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian 1.2 installed... Need internet access... now what?
On Sat, 17 May 1997, Tj Johnston, N4UYQ wrote: but on to the real question I'm a complete newbie to Linux... I would like to have FTP, IRC, and WWW browsing capabilities, for starters... I also understand there are several packages useful to Amateur Radio... Don't know about the radio packages. Now the question... DSELECT has the option of installing packages via FTP... How do you do this, when the packages needed to communicate via modem and FTP arent installed yet?? Are are they and what packages do I need?? If you have your connection up just go into dselect/access and set up the ftp options. dselect has it's own version of ftp. Use ftp.debian.org, anonymous login, debian directory, stable non-free contrib, accept debian as the local directory. Then go to update, get the lists, clear old lists. Then go to select and accept the default packages (enter) don't bother changing anything the first time. Go to install, d/l the packages, recycle throught the install phase until dependency errors stop (don't worry about them) and the system is completely installed. I have fallen into this hole.. so to speak... all this processing power and nothing to do yet. it just sits there at the command prompt... time to put this puppy to work... If you need any more help just email me. L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Frozen not really frozen ?
On 15 May 1997, Tomislav Vujec wrote: Carpenter, Dean \(MS Mail\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought frozen was supposed to be, well, frozen. Why is it that every day there are a bunch of replacements going on in that tree ? Actually, there seem to have been more bo/frozen changes in the last few days than there have been in hamm/unstable :) Because frozen realy means frozen in new features/packages, not in bug-fixes. Exactly! Why would anyone bother to freeze software with bugs in it? If you want to do that you would just release it. So it's obvious that bo is frozen as stated above so the bugs can be ironed out to the best extent possible. This means that patched packages are exchanged with current packages as bugs are fixed. --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Null Modem
Compile PLIP in your kernel. The details are in PPP-HOWTO. On Thu, 15 May 1997, Jason Kusnier wrote: Does anyone know how to setup a null modem connect from linux to a livingston portmaster for a ppp connection? Thanks - This mail message is being generated by an evaluation copy of FreeMail. If this software is to be used beyond the 30 day evaluation period or for any commercial purpose a license must be obtained by calling (406) 542-0901. Download FreeMail software from http://www.FreeMail.com. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: dSELECT
On Thu, 15 May 1997, Peter Ginsberg wrote: As for the packages, I decided that it would be easiest for me to d/l the important stuff, or at least as much as I could, and install from a zip disk. I didnt have a problem getting dselect to read the zip disks nor the packages contained therein. In fact, many of the packages installed smoothly. Some of them, however, did not. Most of my problems were with xwindows files, Ill try to boil this down to some questions. dselect will do the down loading for you. Which would be the easiest way to insure that what is needed is actually retrieved instead of ftping files by hand and using dselect to install from local hard drive. You will undoubtedly hear suggestion for using dpkg with a bunch of (probably varying) arg's to acomplish this. Some people run into one problem as you have and go to the command line use od dpkg to solve thier problems. Sometimes that is needed. It isn't in your case. All but the strange error about the xserver are common. All you have to do is go through the install process more than once. It will install things gradually until everything is installed. Takes maybe 2 extra rounds in install. Why anybody would think it best to tell a new comer to resort to command line use is beyond me. That opens a whole new can of worms. I wish you people would answer a dselect question with a dselect answer not a dpkg answer unless that is the only alternative. If a person is familiar enough with linux to run dpkg with args to acomplish what dselect does anyway. They are good enough to look in the man pages and doc's on dselect and that would lead them to dpkg which they could read up on and get it done on their own. If that's the way they want to do it. By telling a person to use dpkg you are just saying that I don't know how to do that with dselect, you should be using dpkg anyway, come over to the dark side Luke, use dpkg... The person is asking about dselect, not dpkg. If I ask a sendmail question on the list I don't expect a use smail and do this... answer unless that is the only way to get it done. --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: dSELECT
On Fri, 16 May 1997, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote: snip Dselect does show all the dependencies. The problem is that dselect isn't installing packages in the right order automatically. A successor to dselect is in the works that will do better in this respect: the deity project. So. The answer would be to recycle the install step a couple of time and dselect will get the job done. snip My manual approach is the following. I start by picking an important package I need, try to install that manually using dpkg --install file name of package This fails. In the error message I can see on what other packages this package predepends. Then I try to install these packages again using dpkg --install ... Usually I have some luck that certain packages install. Sometimes conflicting packages have to be removed using dpkg --purge. If I succeed to install the particular package I picked, I go back to dselect, select the other packages, and see if it will work this time. If you have all the files you need, usually one or two cycles will do most of the trick. Packages you will want to install are in stable/binary and stable/binary-all. The files called `Packages.gz' contain the information which file names correspond to what package. Note that some packages are provided by others. This information is also in the Packages.gz files. snip and would be very welcome indeed. Procedures like I described above are probably a bit too much for unix newbies, and we shouldn't scare beginners away from Debian IMO. I agree. So what was the reason for posting this? This guy said he IS a new comer, why did you post this? I suspect he's more clued in than most new comers. But what about a clueless new comer? He wouldn't have any idea what you just told him to do. All that needed to be said was to recycle through the install step. Sorry to bit*h about this, but it's almost every day that a new comer asks about dselect and dependancies. There are always dpkg answers that aren't needed to answer the question. The goal is to make the transition to linux and Debian in particular as easy as possible for new comers. Confusing them with strings of dpkg commands when dselect fails to do something defeats the purpose. A new comer doesn't even know what dpkg is. --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: how to safely install libc6
Caution: Some of this stuff is guestimating the libc6 changes. On Fri, 16 May 1997, Craig Sanders wrote: On 15 May 1997, Ed Donovan wrote: I have not installed libc6 yet, and right now my compiles fail. All the binaries generated give No such file or directory errors, because they can't link, I believe. I hesitate to go ahead and install the libc6 packages, though, if things might become more unstable. I'd like to build a new kernel at the moment, and wouldn't want to do so with a C library that wasn't ready for prime time. ld.so has nothing to do with compiling. I suspect the problem here is either the -L /usr/lib type entries in the Makefile are wrong for library search path for the compilers ld linker (not ld.so) or the software you are trying to compile has been developed with libc6 in mind or you have the new compiler which may have default changes to libc6 linking instead of libc5. Since libc6 is going to be the standard very shortly, it's very possible that you are compilling libc6 dependant code. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't hamm supposed to be mostly, if not all, libc6 software? it's safe to have the shared libraries for libc6 and libc5 installed at the same time, just as it was safe to have both libc4 and libc5 installed. It only gets complicated when you want to do development for both libc5 and libc6 on the same machine. I believe that installing hamm (unstable) would insure that the 2 development environments are seperate but equally accessable, since it is the intermediate release between libc5 and libc6 standards. I also suspect that libc5 and libc6, like a.out and ELF, will be co-existing on systems for some time before libc5 is finally completely phased out. Bottom line: Check your Makfiles and gcc/ld man pages for references to libc6 changes. --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Bug#9826: lprng: lprng: wrong paths in /usr/sbin/lpd
On Fri, 16 May 1997, Mirek Kwasniak wrote: I have very busy server and cann't it restart until last night. Problem that I found is more general. I think, Debian distribution should be able upgrade running system without complete rebooting. Are you saying that there is no way for you to restart lprng without rebooting? The only changes you can make to a system that require a reboot are kernel changes. I can shutdown every daemon on my system and restart them again using the proper SIG's and kill. For the most part init 1 and back restarts everything too. The rest of this lengthy report is null and void since joost pointed out that the bug was fixed. Just get the new package. --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: More diald woes!!!!!
On Fri, 16 May 1997, Ben White wrote: Hello all, Thanks to those of you who responded to my last desperate cry for help. I am one step closer in getting my setup working. Currently I use a Slackware distribution with kernel 1.2.13, but want to upgrade to Debian to avoid the commercial distributions, and because of its sophisticated package management. Because of my specific requirements I must have demand dialing ppp connectivity (which I have working with 1.2.13 slackware). Here is my current state of affairs: 0) I am using Debian 1.2, kernel 2.0.27 (or close to that 1) can connect with commandline invocation of pppd Would this be pon or pppd connect etc? 2) diald installed, and tries to bring up the link appropriately 3) chat dials and logs in, pppd is started 4) from modem lights the remote is sending packets and pppd is not responding What does ifconfig say at this point about ppp0? 5) after 20 sec diald times out pppd and kills it 6) the ppp.log file then prints May 14 00:30:12 whitehouselocal pppd[658]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0 May 14 00:31:12 whitehouselocal diald[387]: pppd startup timed out. Check your p ppd options. Killing pppd. May 14 00:31:12 whitehouselocal pppd[658]: Terminating on signal 2. May 14 00:31:12 whitehouselocal pppd[658]: Failed to open /dev/ttyS1: Interrupte d system call This tells me that pppd is trying to gain controle of ttyS1 which is wrong. Even though you said that you only have debug in your ppp.options file you have told pppd to use this tty on the command line or in the diald options file. From the diald man page: WARNING: Note that some pppd commands should not be specified, not even in the /etc/ppp/options file, because they will interfere with the proper operation of diald. In particular you should not specify the tty device, the baud rate, nor any of the options crtscts, xonxoff, -crtscts, defaultroute, lock, netmask, -detach, modem, local, mtu and proxyarp. Use the equivalent diald commands to control these pppd settings. It seems what you have is diald in control of the tty. It starts pppd and waits for pppd to start xferring packets with the remote host. pppd is waiting to get controle of the tty, because it was told to do so someplace. Because pppd seems to be stuck diald kills it and attempts to redial. I hope this helps. L8R, --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Xwindows packages which one??
If you install xbase at this point, with the xserver in place, it should tell you, via dependancies all that you need for a base install. Just hit enter and let it do it's thing. Then run xf86config, and it should work. Then you can start wondering about contrib and window managers. Get the base working. On Wed, 14 May 1997, Alberto Ruiz wrote: Rick, I was able to install xserver-svga successfully. What am I suposse to do next? You mentioned that all I have to do is run XF86Config to configure my xserver. But I do not see the XF86Config command any where. I don't think that xserver-svga includes the xf86config command. Something is missing. It is confusing to decide what to do, because some people say in this mailing list to don't use dselect, others say that I need to have xbase installed before I try to install any of the xservers. Who is right? At least your way worked so far, but I cannot configure the xserver. I used dselect to install it. I installed the package: xserver-svga_3.2-1.deb (I assume is the latest debian stable package). I purged xbase, xfnt, and etc. Any help will be greatly appreciated and thanks again for all you help Alberto Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How do I change my settings to use a different monitor?
On Thu, 15 May 1997, Alberto Ruiz wrote: I installed Xwindows using an old monitor. I now have a new monitor which has more resolutions. How do I go in changing the settings to the new monitor? Would I loose my window if I'm making the changes on Xwindows? Is it better to do it through a telnet session? What about when I'm installing new Xwindows addons,is it a problem running dselect from within Xwindows? Fix your line wrap. This is one sentance running off the page. No problem to all questions. Run xf86config, or edit it manually (/etc/X11/XF86Config) it won't take effect until you restart X, or recycle xdm. You will need the refresh rates for the new monitor to put in the config. Don't guess or your monitor could go into melt-down. Alberto Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How do I kill jobs?
On Thu, 15 May 1997, Alberto Ruiz wrote: How do I list all the jobs, in HP-UX or Solaris, I do ps -eaf and it lists everything, but I don't think is the same in Linux. I'm just guessing i way to change the setting on Xwindows by killing Xwindows, modifying the XF86Config file andrestarting Xwindows. Am I going in the right way? Just exit. The window manager has a menu under the left mouse key that should have an exit selection. If that doesn't work use ctrl-alt-backspace. That will kill the x session. ps -aux for starters. Debian comes with a nice funtion called man. If you type man ps or whatever other program you want to know about it will tell you many of these things you are asking us about. Alberto Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How do I change my settings to use a different monitor?
On Thu, 15 May 1997, Alberto Ruiz wrote: Sorry about teh line wrap problem , I'm using elm. How do I restart X or recycle xdm? Can I run /usr/sbin/xbase-configure instead of xf86config? I don't think I have xf86config, I used xbase-configure to set XF86Config. Just use xf86config. On Thu, 15 May 1997, Alberto Ruiz wrote: I installed Xwindows using an old monitor. I now have a new monitor which has more resolutions. How do I go in changing the settings to the new monitor? Would I loose my window if I'm making the changes on Xwindows? Is it better to do it through a telnet session? What about when I'm installing new Xwindows addons,is it a problem running dselect from within Xwindows? Fix your line wrap. This is one sentance running off the page. No problem to all questions. Run xf86config, or edit it manually (/etc/X11/XF86Config) it won't take effect until you restart X, or recycle xdm. You will need the refresh rates for the new monitor to put in the config. Don't guess or your monitor could go into melt-down. Alberto Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How do I change my settings to use a different monitor?
On Thu, 15 May 1997, Paul McDermott wrote: I hope you are using xdm. If not then this won't help you. You have to edit the /etc/X11/XF86Config file. There is a section in it called Screen. There you should have the settings for your current monitor. You can edit that section with the new monitor settings. I hope this helps. Make sure to have all the monitor settings. Paul Why wouldn't this help unless he's using xdm? That file effects the Xserver it's self. It has nothing to do with xdm. On Thu, 15 May 1997, Alberto Ruiz wrote: Hi again, I installed Xwindows using an old monitor. I now have a new monitor which has more resolutions. How do I go in changing the settings to the new monitor? Would I loose my window if I'm making the changes on Xwindows? Is it better to do it through a telnet session? What about when I'm installing new Xwindows addons,is it a problem running dselect from within Xwindows? Alberto Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Xwindows running finally!! what's next?
On Thu, 15 May 1997, Alberto Ruiz wrote: Hi all!, I just want to thank all who helped me get Xwindows running. This is what I hadto do to install it successfully: I cleaned everything first, may be it had something to do with selecting - instead of _. I also had to install xserver-svga first and then xbase with the rest of its dependencies. Anyway, I'm now looking for a window manager and all the neat tools to run Xwindows smoothly. I heard of fvwm, gwm, afterstep, fvwm95 and others. Can I run all of them at the same time? Is it a sequence? Do I need to kill xwindows before I install them or dselect will take care of that? I've used all of those and some that aren't on your list and like Afterstep the most, by far. --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Where is my .xsession file?
On Thu, 15 May 1997, Alberto Ruiz wrote: I did a search for .xsession and it was not found anywhere on my system. Isn't xdm or any of the other Xwindow program suposse to create it or a least come with templeates or default files? You create one in your home directory. The bare minimum is: my ~/.xsession file #!/bin/sh exec afterstep --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Where is my .xsession file?
In /etc/X11/config file put run-xconsole obey-nologin allow-user-resources allow-user-modmap allow-user-xsession allow-failsafe start-xdm use-sessreg xdm-start-server This should cover it. On Thu, 15 May 1997, Alberto Ruiz wrote: OK, I created my own .xsession file just like yours. I exited Xwindows and i get the login Xwindow prompt. I login as root (the .xsession file is in /root) everything looks the same. What am I doing wrong? Do I have to kill xdm? Alberto Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 15 May 1997, Alberto Ruiz wrote: I did a search for .xsession and it was not found anywhere on my system. Isn't xdm or any of the other Xwindow program suposse to create it or a least come with templeates or default files? You create one in your home directory. The bare minimum is: my ~/.xsession file #!/bin/sh exec afterstep --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html --Rick Unsolicited commercial/propaganda email subject to legal action. Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), Sec.227(b)(1)(C), and Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a State may impose a fine of NOT LESS than $500 per message. Read the full text of Title 47 Sec 227 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: (repost w/o HTML) Debian 1.2 is broken out of the box.
Try using the ftp.debian.org site. It's the #1 mirror site and I've always had good luck with it. --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
BIND 8.1??
I undestand that there is a BIND 8.1 now. Why are we at 4.9.5 and there's an 8.1 out? Does naybody know? --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: shadow problems with adduser
I've had the same thing happen. I normally hit ctrl-C (which kills it) then change the password either as root using passwd user or by logging in as that user and changing the password, I forgett which one worked. I don't add users often on my system since it's private, so it's not a big deal for me. I figure it will be fixed shortly. On Tue, 13 May 1997, George Bonser wrote: When I attempt to add a user account with adduser username it prompts me for the password twice as I would expect then notifies me that the user was not found in /etc/shadow (no duh! I am trying to ADD a new user!) and kicks me back to the prompt for a password and it sticks in this loop. I have to go to another VT to kill adduser to get control back. QUESTION: How do I add a new user if I have shadow support? George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: BIND 8.1??
On Wed, 14 May 1997, Remco van de Meent wrote: On Wed, 14 May 1997, Rick Jones wrote: I undestand that there is a BIND 8.1 now. Why are we at 4.9.5 and there's an 8.1 out? Does naybody know? Maybe because the maintainer of the package (Robert Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED]) needs some time to create the new packages... bind is only a few days out right now... I was wondering about the jump from 4.9.5 to 8.1? A few versions missing in there. // Remco van de Meent // email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // www: http://oloon.student.utwente.nl //Never make any mistaeks. --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Xwindows packages which one???
You just need to select one of the Xservers which are for different video cards. vga16 is for standard vga and is the default since it works on all cards. If you have an S3 card you would select the S3 Xserver instead. Other than that the dependancies should mark the other needed packages. You might also like to get a window manager like Afterstep. This manages the look and feel of the X environment. On Wed, 14 May 1997, Alberto Ruiz wrote: I tried installing xbase, but it selects xserver-vga16 and xfonts as dependencies. Do I need to install xbase by itself first and ignore the dependencies? I think I need more information. I'm new to linux... Alberto Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes there is a specific order. here is mine not the total list. xlib6, xbase, xbooks, xpm, and so on the thing I install is the xserver-svga. if you have questions on any of this or want more information please email me. Paul -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Xwindows packages which one???
Just run XF86Config to configure it. I have the latest svga server and had no problems. You may want to purge xbase, xserver etc. and reinstall it. Your attempts to fix it may have broken it. On Wed, 14 May 1997, Alberto Ruiz wrote: I already tried selecting one of the Xservers (xserver-vga16 xserver-svga). On xserver-vga16, I get in a loop saying that not all the configuration and default application files are installed. The file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/Xinitrc is missing This happens when is trying to create a Xf86Config file. On xserver-svga it doesn't have a Xf86Setup program included so I cann't configure the xserver. What else can I do, I tried different comabinations and I got the xserver kind of working, but the installation failed, and if I tried to install more X11 packages, it fails because it cannot install them until the xserver is installed successfully. This happens when I try to install xbase together with xserver-svga (That's the only way I can get the Xf86Setup to come) Xseerver-svga by itself doesn't have the confiuration program. Am I doing something wroong or the packages haven't been tested well? You just need to select one of the Xservers which are for different video cards. vga16 is for standard vga and is the default since it works on all cards. If you have an S3 card you would select the S3 Xserver instead. Other than that the dependancies should mark the other needed packages. You might also like to get a window manager like Afterstep. This manages the look and feel of the X environment. On Wed, 14 May 1997, Alberto Ruiz wrote: I tried installing xbase, but it selects xserver-vga16 and xfonts as dependencies. Do I need to install xbase by itself first and ignore the dependencies? I think I need more information. I'm new to linux... Alberto Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes there is a specific order. here is mine not the total list. xlib6, xbase, xbooks, xpm, and so on the thing I install is the xserver-svga. if you have questions on any of this or want more information please email me. Paul -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problems with Frozen
On Mon, 12 May 1997, George Bonser wrote: I am attempting to install frozen on a spanking clean system, it has no DOS, no nothing. It has a single IDE disk drive (/dev/hda). It appears that the only rescue disk in .../frozen/disks-i386/current is the low memory disk. This causes me a problem when I try to install, it asks me if I want to create partitions, I do, but it takes me right back to the menu, it will not launch cfdisk. Did you try using fdisk? It's not as attractive as cfdisk but it does the job. --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problems with Frozen
On Mon, 12 May 1997, George Bonser wrote: Uhm, how do you tell the doggone boot disk that you want to run fdisk from the menus? At that point you have no prompt ... remember, this is a CLEAN system, there is no fdisk (or anything else) on it. In your explaination you explain that you are asked to create partitions but returned to THE MENU. This leads me to believe you are at the installation menu. The last entry on the menu will let you drop to the console. At the prompt type fdisk /dev/hda. On Mon, 12 May 1997, Rick Jones wrote: On Mon, 12 May 1997, George Bonser wrote: I am attempting to install frozen on a spanking clean system, it has no DOS, no nothing. It has a single IDE disk drive (/dev/hda). It appears that the only rescue disk in .../frozen/disks-i386/current is the low memory disk. This causes me a problem when I try to install, it asks me if I want to create partitions, I do, but it takes me right back to the menu, it will not launch cfdisk. Did you try using fdisk? It's not as attractive as cfdisk but it does the job. --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problems with Frozen
DOS is more forgiving of bad disks than linux is. This is about the only disk problem you might have. The only one I've heard of so far. If you put it on a bad disk use another one. Don't use DOS as aguage of a good disk or bad disk, it might be fine for DOS but not for linux. Disable all the BIOS goodies according to the instructions and it should go well. On Tue, 13 May 1997, Matthew Tebbens wrote: I'm about to do the sameinstall frozen on a brand new system. Whats the deal with the Base Disks, will they cause problems like what happened below ? Also, do problems still exist when rawriteing the base disks on a dos/windows system ? I know I had trouble with that before..its difficult to write the disks on a linux system when you are installing your only linux system, and rawriteing the disks on a dos/windows system has problems. --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Complaint about default install
Hit ctrl-C to stop it. recycle to install and answer no to continuing the download of the emacs file. On Mon, 12 May 1997, George Bonser wrote: Well it sure sucks that I have to pick through the list of default packages. emacs slipped past me and here I am on the end of a slow dial-up downloading a 5 Meg behemoth that I will never use. :( Sure would be nice if the defaults were a little more dial-up friendly. I would like to not have to worry so much about these little gotchas. George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problems with Frozen
On Mon, 12 May 1997, Bob Nielsen wrote: Be careful when DOS formatting a floppy to see if format reports any bad areas. If so, toss the disk. Compuserve and AOL will be sending you an adequate supply for free in any case. The disks they send you are junk. Don't bother with them. --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape 4 ...
It's been moved to ftp.netscape.com: /pub/communicator/4.0/4.0b3/unix/other On 12 May 1997, Rob Browning wrote: John Burwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This question may have already been answered, so please excuse me if this redundtant. I have checked the Netscape web and ftp sites, and did not see a version of Netscape Communicator 4 for Linux. I have seen it running in a number of screen shots and read abt in this mailing list. Is there a version for Linux? or which version works under Linux?? You're probably looking in the wrong directory. Its in ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/4.0b3. You'll probably also want the debian installer package. Get that from unstable/contrib (I think) on any debian ftp site. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
SSH problem?
When I telnet to localhost from localhost I get the following: Trying to negotiate SSL [SSL starting] [SSL Connected - Cipher RC4-MD5] [SSL subject=/O=cyberdynamics.com/OU=panther/CN=telnetd/[EMAIL PROTECTED] [SSL issuer=/O=cyberdynamics.com/OU=panther/CN=telnetd/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Password: Is ther a file similar to /etc/issue.net that I can edit to clean this up? What is this for? Is this some kind of error? Thanks, --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian 1.2 is broken out of the box.
I'm only one person on this list that isn't going to bother trying to decypher this HTML message to see what you are complaining about. Sending a message to a linux mailing list in HTML format isn't the brightest thing I've ever seen. If it's any indication of the content, I suspect that others will send this to /dev/null as well. On Tue, 13 May 1997, Jim wrote: HTML Speaking as someone who has spent lots of spare time over the last few weeks trying to install Debian BRw/ only limited success, I feel I have earned the right to criticize you Debian folks for not bothering BRto test your stuff. PDid the basic diskette installation that I got from ftp.kernel.org's mirror site. BRAnd here is a short list of the stuff that's broken straight out of the box: P1) eepro module does not work w/ Intel Ether Express Pro/10+ (It worked fine when I compiled it under BRRed Hat) BR2) There is no help available at install time for what options are valid and/or required for each ethernet BRcard.nbsp; I had to guess the options.nbsp; Red Hat doesn't suffer from this problem, why should Debian? BR3) Using a mirror and installing via ftp, I allowed the default selections to be installed.nbsp; THE DEFAULTS FAIL!! BRHere is a complete list of DEFAULT packages which won't install right out the box and other mistakes: P-inn - requires pgp, but since that's not available, not even as a stub, on US servers, it refuses to install BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; AND, the package description makes no mention of the pgp issue or which servers to get it from or BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; the readme that you carefully put into the bottom drawer of a locked filing cabinet on a planet orbiting BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; alpha-centuri :) (Gratuitous Hitchhiker's Guide reference) BR-debianutils_1.4.deb - predependency prob. requires libc5=5.4.17-1 but only 5.4.13-1 installed BR-base-passwd_2.0-3.deb - predep. probl. requires libreadline2=2.1 but only 2.0.1-2 installed BR-libc6_2.0.3-2 - predep. probl. requires ldso=1.8.10-1 but only 1.8.5-1 installed BR-hostname_2.01.deb - predep. probl. requires libc5-5.4.17-1 but only 5.4.13-1 installed BR-netstd_2.13-1 - predep. probl. requires netbase=2.08 but only 2.06-1 installed BR-perl_5.003.07-10 - overwrites files /usr/lib/perl5/i386-linux/5.00307/auto/Socket/Socket.so Socket.bs and BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; Config.pm, Find.pm, Basename.pm, Path.pm...etc.nbsp; which are also in package perl-base.nbsp; It says that it succeds BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; because --force enabled.nbsp; However, I wonder what damage is being done. BR-perl-base - predep. probl. requires libdl1 to be configured but it can't possibly be since this is the DEFAULT and BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; first package installation. BR-psnfss amp; texpsfnt conflict but --force overcomes this conflict.nbsp; What damage is being done here?? BR-The tex setup produces so much output it's useless. BR-teTeX is NOT the default package, yet, its installation information indicates that it is the successor to all other BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; Tex's and is recommended.nbsp; Why is the teTeX stuff not installed by default?? BR-xserver-vga16 allows you to install w/o requiring all the essential fonts.nbsp; It fails during configuration when it goes BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; looking for its 75dpi fonts.nbsp; I overcame this by going back and installing every X font package in sight.nbsp; Still, it's BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; BROKEN!nbsp; I already sent mail to package maintainer. P4) dselect uses the power of perl to create an installation package worthy of DOS shell script.nbsp; Basically, the BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; logic chart of dselect is: Pnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; DEPENDENCIES SATISFIED -- YES -- install BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; | BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; | -- NO -- THROW A FIT PThe proper way to do things is to keep pitching stuff that can't immediately be installed to the end of the list so that BRprerequisites have a chance to be installed and configured.nbsp; Should be easy enough to do.nbsp; At least you picked the BRright tool :) P5) Any upgrades of dselect or dpkg should be done FIRST so that other packages which depend on the installation BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; program knowing what is going on won't fail. P6) dselect uses perl to install.nbsp; However any problems during a perl installation (as happened to me previously ) and dselect now fails.nbsp; This is BAD, VERY BAD.nbsp; dselect and dpkg are supposed to be the means to correct installation BRproblems and they should not be affected by installation problems, especially perl which is non-trivial.nbsp; I would suggest a BRprotected copy of perl be included with upgrades of dselect. P7) Debian should really request that their description on www.linux.org be changed to: PDebian is maintained by 120 voluteers who can't be bothered to test their stuff. PAnd you may think this is cruel, but Microsoft is still winning and I have a bad
Re: SSH problem?
I wanted to know if there is a way to clean that up so it's displayed in some kind of format, instead of being spewed on the screen like that? I know it's ssltelnet. For some reason I was thinking it came in the ssh package. Now that you have corrected me I remember it was a seperate package. On Tue, 13 May 1997, Nathan E Norman wrote: This is generally construed as a feature. It is telling you that a) you installed SSLtelnet and that b) it has successfully connected to a system that also has SSLtelnet. What just happened is that public keys were exchanged and everything from that point on is encrypted. Guess what? No more password sniffing attacks! You wouldn't want to turn off those messages, because they assure the user that encryption ins being used. As far as how to get the actual /etc/issue file to be displayed, I wish I knew. I haven't read through the docs thoroughly yet. Of course, since you're telnetting to yourself it's not too useful yet, but if more people ran SSLtelnet (or ssh) we'd be that much closer towards closing another security hole. BTW, SSL stands for Secure Socket Layer. It's quite cool, imho. -- Nathan Norman:Hostmaster CFNI:[EMAIL PROTECTED] finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key and other stuff Key fingerprint = CE 03 10 AF 32 81 18 58 9D 32 C2 AB 93 6D C4 72 -- On Tue, 13 May 1997, Rick Jones wrote: :When I telnet to localhost from localhost I get the following: : :Trying to negotiate SSL :[SSL starting] :[SSL Connected - Cipher RC4-MD5] :[SSL :subject=/O=cyberdynamics.com/OU=panther/CN=telnetd/[EMAIL PROTECTED] :[SSL :issuer=/O=cyberdynamics.com/OU=panther/CN=telnetd/[EMAIL PROTECTED] :Password: : :Is ther a file similar to /etc/issue.net that I can edit to clean this up? :What is this for? Is this some kind of error? : :Thanks, : : : :--Rick : :[EMAIL PROTECTED] : : :-- :TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to :[EMAIL PROTECTED] . :Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . : --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: BusLogic FlashPoint LT SCSI BT
There shouldn't be any difference in compiling the kernel from one distribution to another. The different distributions just package linux in different ways and maybe change some boot scripts to make things run out of the box. The source it's self is all the same. Unless your talking about going from an alpha machine to an x86 machine. It should compile fine following the instructions for any x86 linux distribution. You may have to change a path but for the most part all distributions use the standard file system tree. On Tue, 13 May 1997, Dave May wrote: Being a fan of Debian Linux for some time, I wanted to install Debian on my own computer in my office (to replace Windows 95 especially). Unfortunately, I have a BusLogic FlashPoint LT PCI SCSI adapter, and it's not supported currently. I found the latest version of the driver which supports my adapter, BusLogic-2.0.9.tar.gz, but its documentation seems to be for other flavors of Linux. It generates the following files: BusLogic.h FlashPoint.cREADME.BusLogic RELEASE_NOTES BusLogic.c BusLogic.patch LICENSE.FlashPoint README.FlashPoint How can I apply the patch and compile a new kernel to support this driver? Can I get this onto my boot disk? Dave May -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Message for Dale Scheetz and sendmail question for list
On Mon, 12 May 1997, Nicola Bernardelli wrote: I've left it blank but it uses smail (pine 3.95q, Debian 1.2.4), not sendmail... or better: 1) I have smail installed and not sendmail, 2) that field in pine configuration is blank, 3) changing configuration of smail DOES change the results, both for local delivery and for mail to be sent over the Internet via dialup PPP to my ISP. This is because the install setsup a link from sendmail to smail. So pine calls sendamil and actually gets smail. --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
SGML ??
I'm looking for the linuxdoc-sgml package. It's not in the directory it was reported in. There are some packages called sgml-tool and docs. Has the one linuxdoc-sgml.deb been replaced by the sgml packages? If so what packages would I need to have the entire thing? Thanks, --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Message for Dale Scheetz and sendmail question for list
Sounds like you don't have a domain set in sendmail config file. Pine would have nothing to do with this particular error since it uses the local transport (normally). You could also insure that you do have localhost set as smtp host in pine setup. If you have your ISP's host set in pine as smtp host then it is pine. In that case either change it to localhost or insure the domain is set just above that entry, I belive. I haven't seen the entire thread, but I hope this helps. On Sun, 11 May 1997, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: 501: HELO Requires Domain Address and sure enough I'm sending out HELO instead of: HELO braincells.com This has never happened before. I think one of three things may have caused it. 1.) This new version of pine. In which case is this a bug or do I have to configure something? 2.) Your sendmail isn't as lax as others and doesn't accept a plain HELO. In which case I probably need something in my sendmail.cf to enable HELO domain name. Does anyone know what that would be? 3.) My sendmail is misconfigured in which case the solution would be the same as 2. Am I on the right track? Any clue would be appreciated. -- Jaldhar -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: core dump disable
I don't think it's possible to disable core dumps, but I'm not sure. I just thought I'd give you an idea I thought of when reading your post. Why don't you run this program from a RAM disk? Mount a ramdrive and copy the program that dumps core to it. Make sure the program saves the product to a real partition. When It dumps core on the ramdrive it will not have enough room to save the core file. I don't know if core goes to /tmp in this situation but it's worth a shot if there's no way to disable core dumps. I also wonder if a redirect command can be used to send the core output to /dev/null? I've not heard of this so maybe someone with knowledge of core dumps can tell us if redirecting (2,) will redirect a core dump? I would be interested in knowing myself. On Sun, 11 May 1997, G. Kapetanios wrote: Hi, I have a commercial package for statistics installed on my debian system. This is primarily for interactive use but because my programs take a long time I run it using the nohup command in the background. The problem is that after the program finishes its calculations and before it exits it dumps core. This is highly likely caused by a bug in the comercial package. The results are not affected. However, the core dumps are large since the workfile of the program is dumped ( around 60 Mb ). Getting the commercial company to do something about this didn't achieve much. So I would like to know if there is away to disable core dumps for this specific program or if this is not possible disable core dumps completely. I don't get any core dumps apart from those anyway. I would appreciate any help on this very much. Thanks George --- George Kapetanios Churchill College Cambridge, CB3 0DSE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] U.K. WWW: http://garfield.chu.cam.ac.uk/~gk205/work_info.html --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: DNS question
I should have been more specific, sorry. I wanted to know if this secondary that is behind the firewall, IP masq'd, can be used as far as internic is concerned, or if they will reject it because of the IP masqing? Does any body know? I have solved my need for a secondary but am still curious about this for the future. On 11 May 1997, R. Chris Ross wrote: I set up a DNS on my FreeBSD box which is behind my Debian box and it worked fine. At the time I didn't think to ask the question I just added the secondary line to my named.boot for my ISP and restarted named. Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian User List debian-user@lists.debian.org cc: Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think I know the answer to this already, BUT is it possible to run a secondary DNS through an IP masq firewall? Just wondering since I'm about to network my home systems via an IP masq firewall and would rather use one of my other systems as secondary. I haven't researched IP masq firewalling yet. Is this the BEST way to put a machine on the net without it's own IP? --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Message for Dale Scheetz and sendmail question for list
On Sun, 11 May 1997, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: Sounds like you don't have a domain set in sendmail config file. Ok, I thought as much. How do I change it? I tried running /usr/sbin/sendmailconfig again but that didn't help. And one look at the size of the O'Reilly sendmail book was enough to put the fear of God in me! Pines squared away. You should see something like the following in /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: # Alias for this host Cw # Virtual email domain # who I masquerade as (null for no masquerading) DMyourdomain.com # Smart host DSmail.yourISP.net # Use this mailer to reach the Smart host DNesmtp # Central host for local mail DHlocalhost --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
linuxdoc-sgm
I'm trying to install linuxdoc-sgm with dselect but it's not showing up in the list to be installed after being marked for install. Also. None of these files are properly named in the packages list, or are actually missing. This has been for a few days at least, when do the packages files get updated? want: frozen/binary-i386/x11/xlib6-dev_3.2-4.deb (517k) want: frozen/binary-i386/x11/xfnt100_3.2-4.deb (1591k) want: frozen/binary-i386/x11/xnest_3.2-4.deb (759k) want: frozen/binary-i386/x11/xfntscl_3.2-4.deb (1102k) want: frozen/binary-i386/x11/xfntbig_3.2-4.deb (2995k) want: frozen/binary-i386/x11/xbase_3.2-4.deb (1984k) want: frozen/binary-i386/x11/xmanpages_3.2-4.deb (864k) want: frozen/binary-i386/x11/xlib6_3.2-4.deb (674k) want: frozen/binary-i386/admin/at_3.1.5-1.deb (31k) want: frozen/binary-i386/x11/xext_3.2-4.deb (385k) want: frozen/binary-i386/x11/xfntbase_3.2-4.deb (261k) want: frozen/binary-i386/x11/xfnt75_3.2-4.deb (1320k) want: frozen/binary-i386/x11/xserver-svga_3.2-4.deb (914k) want: frozen/binary-i386/x11/xfntpex_3.2-4.deb (13k) want: frozen/binary-i386/x11/xfntcyr_3.2-4.deb (486k) Note that linuxdoc-sgm is not in the list even though it is marked for install. frozen/binary-i386/text/linuxdoc-sgml_1.5-4.deb linuxdoc-sgml not installed; install (was: install). Optional Any clues? --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: connections
On Fri, 9 May 1997, Jesse Goldman wrote: [machine2] tcplogd: telnet connection attempt from [machine1] [machine2] in.telnetd[number]: warning: can't get client address: Connection reset by peer. [machine2] in.telnetd[same number]: connect from unknown This sounds like the reverse address mapping isn't working at these times. I'd debug the name server while this is happening and see if it's reporting reverse mappings when this happens. --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: failed installation of 1.2 on thinkpad. Tips?
In the instructions there is a possible explaination. Unless those disks are flawless it will lock just as you have described. It's happened to me. Sometimes you have to go through a few disks before you find a good one. This is because DOS is more forgiving of flaws in a floppy. On 9 May 1997, Jim Meyering wrote: I am trying to install Debian/GNU/Linux 1.2 from floppy disks on a Thinkpad w/pentium. I have made the 6 disks as described in ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/stable/disks-i386/current/install.html I inserted rescue diskette and power cycled. I read through the on-line instructions and typed linux floppy=thinkpad and hit Enter. Then I got the loading root.bin..., then loading linux.. messages, but nothing more. It just hung -- I waited at least 15 minutes before giving up. Have I missed something obvious? Thanks for any help, Jim -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: 'talk' does not work
On Sat, 10 May 1997, Eugene Sevinian wrote: As I know in order to allow some service to work I should put corresponding string in /etc/hosts.allow and now it looks like : in.ftpd: ALL in.telnetd: ALL in.rlogind: ALL in.talkd: ALL in.fingerd: ALL However everything is working but 'talk'. It hangs with: [Checking for invitation on caller's machine]. What did I do wrong? Thank you in advance, I don't think hosts.allow works that way. Example: ALL: .foobar.edu EXCEPT terminalserver.foobar.edu Allows all hosts at domain foobar.edu except the machine named terminalserver to access your system. Try ytalk instead of talk and see if you get an error to the effect host unknown. If you do the problem may be that your hostname isn't being set at boot time. I had this problem once and, if I remember correctly, talk froze at the point yours is but ytalk just returned the error I mentioned. Is your hostname displayed at your prompt? If not and you haven't changed the prompt in .bash_profile, your hostname isn't set. Also check netstat -a and see if there is a line like the following: udp0 0 *:ntalk *:* udp0 0 *:talk *:* If not then the daemons aren't running. --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: fetchmail troubles?
On Sat, 10 May 1997, Francis Swasey wrote: They explained me that---because of 37,000 users--- they had decided to use 1 RAID disk system with 2 computers which balance load, so that each time I call, pop.arrakis.es may point to another IP address. The confusion and data loss, according to their explanation is due to (a) that fetchmail deletes the messages before they have been transmitted (?!) and (b) that my DNS cache would have chosen the wrong address. a) Is a moronic statement. As all ISP's I've dealt with also, your ISP thinks it's customers are idiots. How in the hell do they think you've been getting your mail all along, and they onse you got before the socket error, if fetchmail purges them BEFORE they are transmitted? The fact that you get even one message is proof of this being false. If you type rm /home/me/.bash_profile ; edit /home/me/.bash_profile you will get an empty editor. b) If this is true how does a) even apply? I think the socket error you experienced was them purging your mail. I'd tear them a new *ss over that. Specially after taking me for a fool with a sorry explaination like that. If you run fetchmail with the -v option, you will see very clearly that The question I would be asking the ISP is: how did they move the mail from the old machine to the new configuration? From what you have described, I'm a little suspicious that they might not have moved anything (and hence your sudden loss of mail). I don't mean to be alarmist, just trying to explain the thoughts that are running through my mind. --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How to trick debian into thinking a package is installed
I remember reading, maybe on the lesstif web site, that lesstif now uses different lib naming conventions so it can co-exist with motif. On Sat, 10 May 1997, Maarten Boekhold wrote: 1. what's the dirty way to modify the config files so debian thinks lesstif is installed? I don't think that this will work. lesstif isn't binary compatible with motif AFAIK, only source-level. So to use programs linked against lesstif, you will need lesstif, and not motif (ofcourse you could recompile yourself...). If this is not correct, by all means say so. I don't use any of motif/lesstif myself :) On a side note, motif apps really ought to require a motif package, and lesstiff should provide motif, as opposed to packages directly requiring lesstif. Maarten _ | Maarten Boekhold, Faculty of Electrical Engineering TU Delft, NL| |[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Kernel-compilation error no.2
On Sat, 10 May 1997, Johann Spies wrote: defxx.o(.text+0x15a): undefined reference to `pcibios_present' defxx.o(.text+0x188): undefined reference to `pcibios_find_device' defxx.o(.text+0x1c2): undefined reference to `pcibios_read_config_word' defxx.o(.text+0x20e): undefined reference to `pcibios_write_config_word' defxx.o(.text+0x226): undefined reference to `pcibios_read_config_word' drivers/net/net.a(defxx.o): In function `dfx_bus_init': defxx.o(.text+0x5c8): undefined reference to `pcibios_read_config_byte' defxx.o(.text+0x5e7): undefined reference to `pcibios_read_config_byte' defxx.o(.text+0x612): undefined reference to `pcibios_write_config_byte' make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1 I'm not a developer, but it may be that you have PCI and have set some PCI options that require others that aren't set. So when it tries to gain the needed info for one feature it can't get the info because the needed feature isn't in the include path. Just a guess. Hope it helps. --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Kernel-compilation error no.2
On Sat, 10 May 1997, Johann Spies wrote: The problem is that I have no PCI and did not select PCI in the configuration process (make xconfig). I thought that at first but didn't think that compiling the kernel without PCI enabled it would figure it out for it's self. If so how could you compile a kernel for another machine? I am now downloading the kernel-source (2.0.29) as somebody suggested that 2.0.30 might be unstable. From what I'm hearing, the only bug in this kernel involves modules. There was a previous posting on editing the modules file to install them correctly for 2.0.30. Other than that it actually fixes some problems with 2.0.29. IP masq for example. Maybe adds feature would be a better description. --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
FTP down?!?
What's going on at ftp.debian.org? You can't tell me they've had 100 anonymous users logged on for over 13 hours now. Do they put this up when mirrors are updated or something? --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: FTP down?!?
On Sat, 10 May 1997, Chad Zimmerman wrote: Maybe this just goes to show HOW popular Debian has become now. All these new users installing Debian on their computers and getting rid of 95 ;) Maybe it's time to increase to 150 users? :-) What's going on at ftp.debian.org? You can't tell me they've had 100 anonymous users logged on for over 13 hours now. Do they put this up when mirrors are updated or something? I had the same problem last night. I managed to get in now and then, but it wasn't easy. :) -douglas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Log-in prompt question
On Fri, 9 May 1997, Lu Jimmy Chenji wrote: Hello all, Can someone tell me how to put a word before the Log-in prompt? E.g. Mypcname:# or Mypcname:$. I know there a lot of fancy things I can do. Is there a HOWTO I can look? Thanks in advance, Jimmy That goes in the /etc/issue file. You can find the commands in the getty man page. Have a good one, --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: stable or not stable?
On Fri, 9 May 1997, Eduardo Goyanes wrote: Hello, I'm writing to satisfy my curiousity on why the llinux kernel 2.0.30 is in the unstable archives. When a.b.c and b is even the file is stable. what is the best way to upgrade the kernel for a linux Debian v1.2? A good question. I'd also like to know what the actual current kernel version is, since I see people on other list's using 2.0.35? --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: stable or not stable?
On Fri, 9 May 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's practically a moot point now with bo so close to release, but in the future perhaps it would make sense to include the latest and greatest (and thus presumably the most stable) 2.0 kernel in the stable distribution, and the latest 2.1 kernel in the unstable distribution? I agree. I thought I'd seen someone using 2.1.36 but thought it was a typo. I would like to see the absolute latest kernel's in unstable. Seems to me that's what it's for. I seems to be used more as pre-stable than unstable (a subtle difference). --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
