Re: Reinstall maintainer's files
Todd A. Jacobs wrote: Doing aptitide reinstall foo doesn't seem to reinstall the maintainer's configuration files. What do I need to do to have the system ask me if I want to use the modified version or the package maintainer's version? I would just do a purge, remove any vestigial files in /etc and then install it again fresh. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Video conversion
J Merritt wrote: I am looking for a good, feature full video conversion package that will allow for conversion between various video formats, containers, audio formats, etc., in the associated video file. Is there a package that can be installed under Debian with all the associated dependencies? Any ideas? I would try mencoder from www.debian-multimedia.org. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: forgot password workarounds not working
Haines Brown wrote: I have sarge I installed on a new hard disk, and I can log in OK, but I decided to see if I could log in without a password. I tried two methods: 1. I booted knoppix and opened a terminal. In it I tried to do: $ mount -t ext3 /dev/sda /mnt/hd in order to then run the chroot and the passwd commands, but when I tried to mount the disk I got the error only root can do that. Is the only way out of this to know root's password? Knoppix makes you an unprivileged user by default. However, you can use sudo without a password: $ sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda /mnt/hd That should get you what you want. 2. In grub, I edited the kernel line for the disk I wanted to boot by appending to that line the words: single init=/bin/sh. This brought me to a sh2.5-2b# prompt, but when I tried to issue the passwd command from there, I only got the authentication token lock busy error. When I have trouble with lock files I usually just delete them, but don't know where this one is or if I can delete it. Any suggestions? If you want to reset a user password (or even root), then boot with a live CD, mount the partition and edit /etc/passwd or /etc/shadow (depending on which type of passwords were used on the system) and then remove the password from the file. After you reboot the system, then you can log in as whatever user without a password. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why?
S Clement wrote: I am new to Debian - within the last two weeks - and two things puzzle me. Welcome. Why do you seem to prefer gnome over kde? I have examined both and kde seems to me to be easier to use. There must be something I am missing. We don't really prefer one or the other, as far as I know. I guess the real problem is that you sort of need to pick one or the other as a default since many new users don't know the difference. I guess if they know enough to know that they prefer KDE over GNOME, they can probably figure out how to switch. Is it worth hunting for a way to change the default? Simply go into your package manager and uninstall GNOME and install KDE. Everything else should just fall into place. Where did you get that logo? When it came up on the gnome desktop it immediatlely reminded me of something being flushed down the drain. I hope it doesn't mean that! I think the logo predates pretty much every one on this list (now watch me be wrong about that). I am not really sure. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: etch vs sarge
BAGI Akos wrote: Hi List! I run services on sarge in two major parts: - qmail,clamav,spop3, ssmtp,rblsmtp and - apache2,mysql 4.1,php4 I'm considering to dist-upgrade from sarge to etch(testing) I would like to use mysql5 and php5 if it's not a to big deal to change. My question is: Can the dist-upgade do it for me or the chaos is waiting for me? I know mysql would like a full export/import. Is there anything else? Is there someone with experinece on it? You may want to check out www.backports.org before you dive into a fill dist-upgrade. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rsync weirdness
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: I think i'm sending you down the wrong road. rdiff-backup does incremental backups of data using rsync to transfer the data. but still, istm that for some reason rsync doesn't realise that you haven't changed everything. maybe you need to go through it once and then its alright after that? just a thought. Interesting. I checked the md5sums of the files on both machines and they are identical (except for the few modified files). I am kind of stumped as to why this is happening. Could it have something to do with hfs+ attributes? -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing on a small root partition
Anil Gupte wrote: Need help and advice. I am trying to do a specialized install of Debian. Note that I have done two or three before (in the past), but without knowing much about what was going on - I mostly accepted the defaults. This system happens to be in a place where there are frequent power losses. So, my plan is to have a small root partition (say about 100MB), and make it a read-only partition. This way, there will be no corruption on constant reboots. The apps, logs etc will be on a separate partition. The read-only partition idea was a suggestion from a Linux guru, as a solution for inodes etc being corrupted and the system not booting properly. I tried the Debian installer, but it fails, and I am pretty sure that is because the root partition is small. Is there any way to tell the installer where to put which files? I am installing from a DVD containing Sarge. Any suggestions will be welcome. Also, any advice on the read only root partition will be helpful. I am not sure that a read-only root partition will work. Your system must be able to write to devices in /dev (which is mounted from somewhere else if you use udev). As for installing on a small root partition, check out DSL, which I believe has something like a 50 MB base install. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rsync weirdness
Andrew Vaughan wrote: I've seen entering/leaving daylight savings do something similar with Windows shares rsynced to linux. It might be worth letting rsync copy a few of the files to a temp location, and manually comparing timestamps/permissions etc. OK. I'll give that a shot. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rsync weirdness
Willie Wonka wrote: JJ wrote: Roberto Sanchez wrote: I don't think I have lost the rsync data. Basically, what I do is: rsync -nave ssh ~/Documents/stuff/ remote:~/school/stuff/ Even if have changed only one or two files, it still wants to transfer everything. I will check out rdiff-backup. -Roberto Your command is correct for what you want. I think you are running into issues with differences between the filesystems meta data. The -a options tells it to sync. up uid, gid, permissions, etc. So it is probably changing the uid and gid for all your files as it goes along. Causes a slight delay, but rsync is smart enough to not copy the complete file if the content hasn't changed. I have a Mac which I rsync files back and forth with a debian server. I ended up adding the extra users and groups I needed to my mac (using NetInfo Manager)--making sure to use the uid's and gid's from the debian server. Many *nix systems start uid's at 500, but Debian starts them at 1000. I even changed the uid of my mac account to match the uid on my debian account. If you do this make sure you then update all your files on your Mac with your new uid. Any help to you guys? http://www.quesera.com/reynhout/misc/rsync+hfsmode/ and http://hfsrsync.darwinports.com/ I figured it out. Basically, I needed to use this command: rsync --exclude '.DS_Store' -ncrve ssh ~/Documents/stuff/ remote:~/school/stuff/ The -c option tells it to compare based on sums (probably md5) instead of the rsync algorithm. I am still stumped as to why this works, especially since changing the -a to -r in the original command line yielded the same results. The weird thing is that transferring the whole directory over to my Debian machine and then using rsync between the two local directories makes it want to update every single file and directory. In this case, using -c again results in the desired behavior. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bash socket /dev/tcp
Andrea Ganduglia wrote: How can I obtain /dev/tcp (and /dev/udp) onto debian? Bash seems compiled without socket support. Why? Could you elaborate? I think that you are confusing UNIX domain sockets with network sockets. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get question?
Ishwar Rattan wrote: How can one install a package downloaded as: apt-get install -d gcc-3.4 If you download it first, then a simple `apt-get install gcc-4.3` later will install it. This is because apt looks in the local package cache before going to the network. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is it possible to install ftp servers w/o 421 Service not available errors?
Dirk wrote: Seriously, I've tried proftpd, vsftpd and another one I don't remember on different machines (all with debian) and randomly they bitch around giving me 421! Interesting. What steps (exactly) have you taken? Have you enabled inbound FTP in the /etc/hosts.allow? Are you inetd settings correct? Firewall setup properly? Is it possible to run a ftp server with debian? Or will I finally have to switch to FreeBSD like so many did since they've started putting unstable stuff into 2.6.x.y instead of 2.7.x. You seem to be confusing the stability of the kernel with the stability of applications. The problem you are having is likely a misconfiguration. Sorry for being an ass but I'm lightly pissed about Linux turning into a bitch lately. It happens. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
rsync weirdness
This is not Debian-specific (at least I don't think it is), but I will ask here regardless. I have recently acquired a MacBook (a graduation gift from my parents). Anyhow, while I was recently traveling, I did some work on it. When I try to rsync back to either of my workstations (both running Sarge), it wants to transfer every single file and directory. This is the case whether I run rsync from the MacBook or the other machine. Does anyone know why this is going on? -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rsync weirdness
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: have you lost the rsync-data on the receiving end? I actually use rdiff-backup myself, but istm that if you lose the rsync data on the receiving end, then it will try to sync everything. Maybe I don't understand what you're doing though. I don't think I have lost the rsync data. Basically, what I do is: rsync -nave ssh ~/Documents/stuff/ remote:~/school/stuff/ Even if have changed only one or two files, it still wants to transfer everything. I will check out rdiff-backup. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: creating custom binary packages?
Kit Peters wrote: I have a need to create my own .debs for a box at work, and I'd like to use precompiled stuff when I can. How do I create a custom .deb from a precompiled package, a la firefox or MySQL? I've looked at the New Maintainer's Guide (though perhaps not as in depth as I ought) and I didn't see anything there. Can anyone give me some pointers? Kit Peters If your package does not require pre- or post-install steps (or if you can do them by hand), then check out checkinstall. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian package of the day
Aaron Maxwell wrote: Something I did for fun, that you might find neat: http://potd.redsymbol.net It's pretty skeletal right now; I'll add features to it over time. (If anyone has a feature request, post on this list or email me.) Hi, Seems pretty cool. One question, though. Wouldn't updated hourly! imply that this is really the Debian package of the hour? -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian package of the day
Aaron Maxwell wrote: Don't complain, or I'll make it update every ten minutes! Then we'll all be in trouble. :-) If anyone's curious, the reason I did this is that there's so much software for debian - about 17,000 packages in i386/main - that there are probably some you would find interesting or useful, except that they get lost in the haystack and you never encounter them. I read a post once in which someone bemoaned the passing of dselect, because it highlighted newly-minted packages. With apt*, he rarely knew of that new software, unless he just stumbled across it. I thought that was a pretty good point. Good point. However, aptitude always shows you new packages. IIRC, when dselect went away, aptitude was the recommended official replacement. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sound card issues [WAS: Re: Hello!]
KlarsDev wrote: Hi, i have this problem: I have debian 3.1 sarge installed on my PC, but i encounter some problems with my sound device. My sound card is C-media(external) it works ok, but i have a 5.1 EBODA sound system and i don`t know how to make it work with debian. I tried with alsa but i can only use a 4 channels option. If u could help my on this i would realy appriciate it! Thanks! Hello, A few things: 1. Please use more descriptive subject lines. Hello! is a common subject used by spam messages. 2. Your question is exceptionally vague; all we can ascertain is that you have some sort of problem (i.e., you provide no error output). 3. This question is not related to Debian development, but rather is more appropriate for the debian-user list, to which I have directed this message. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel problems
Olafur Jens Sigurdsson wrote: Well, never mind, I solved it. What was wrong was that the /boot/initrd.img symlink didnt get updated. Why is that? Should I file a bug against this package? Before you do that, what are the contents of /etc/kernel-img.conf? -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X 7.0 .debs????
Kevin Mark wrote: Hi Ron and Rob, if you follow planet.debian.org, David (aka gravity) bloged/blogs about it. IIRC he said he was preparing it for experimental. And if you must know yesterday, he is sometimes on #debian. Cheers, Kev Hi Kevin, I understand that the X Strike Force is moving swiftly to get X 7.0 into Debian. However, my replay to Ron's original message was precipitated by his facetious question about when X7.0 will make into Etch. Getting the software into Debian (in this case via experimental) will not take long). It is the migration which will cause much pain and sorrow :-) -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: compiling apache 2.0.55, undefined reference errors (BIO_printf and such)
Artur Makówka wrote: compiling 2.0.54 gives the same results (well, at least it also stops on some errors) i just want to recompile apache to match my processor architecture optimization and such, besides i want to change few configure options. Of course i havent changed them yet, now i just want to test if it is even possible to compile it. But if you ask about my goal, that is the ability to change ./configure options and optimization. besides, i think dpkg-buildpackage is in debian to use it. 2.0.55 is official apache2 version from testing, why would i want to change official version i think there is a problem with some -l option missing in compile time, and i dont know why. or maybe i am missing some package, that is not in 'depends'. I see. Have you read my Debian Package Customization HOWTO? http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto/howtos/debcustomize I would start there. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: compiling apache 2.0.55, undefined reference errors (BIO_printf and such)
Artur Makówka wrote: does anyone know why i have a lot of such messages :/root/source/apache2-2.0.55/build-tree/apache2/support/ab.c:521: undefined reference to `BIO_printf' :/root/source/apache2-2.0.55/build-tree/apache2/support/ab.c:605: undefined reference to `SSL_do_handshake' :/root/source/apache2-2.0.55/build-tree/apache2/support/ab.c:607: undefined reference to `SSL_get_error' :/root/source/apache2-2.0.55/build-tree/apache2/support/ab.c:639: undefined reference to `BIO_printf' :/root/source/apache2-2.0.55/build-tree/apache2/support/ab.c:640: undefined reference to `SSL_get_peer_cert_chain' :/root/source/apache2-2.0.55/build-tree/apache2/support/ab.c:644: undefined reference to `sk_num' :/root/source/apache2-2.0.55/build-tree/apache2/support/ab.c:659: undefined reference to `SSL_get_peer_certificate' and so on (the list is pretty long), when i try to dpkg-buildpackage my apache2-mpm-worker? its 2.0.55, distro testing i have libssl-dev 0.9.8a-3 installed ( i reinstalled it, and it didnt help) my dpkg/apt-get is not broken, and i have fully updated system. Also i did apt-get build-dep apache2-mpm-worker and its not showing any errors. so what i could be missing? i read its -lcrypto, but i doubt debian devs forgot to add it to rules file, so what could be the problem? please respond also to my mail, im not signed here (if you dont mind..) What I can't figure out is, why are you trying to compile 2.0.55 from testing? Is there that much of a difference between 2.0.54 and 2.0.55 that you need 2.0.55? -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: aspell error in sarge
Rodney D. Myers wrote: For the past month I have been trying to get a friends computer working with Sylpheed-claws gaim, but libaspell has an ongoing error within it. I keep getting this error message; sylpheed-claws: relocation error: /usr/lib/libaspell.so.15: undefined symbol: _ZTVN10__cxxabiv120__si_class_type_infoE gaim: relocation error: /usr/lib/libaspell.so.15: undefined symbol: _ZTVN10__cxxabiv120__si_class_type_infoE Any idea as to when this show stopping error will be fixed? Google was not very helpful. However, I was able to find a report of another Debian user encountering this problem. The suggested solution was make sure that gaim-data was installed. http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2005/03/msg01795.html -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VPN client to Windows network
Bob Hynes wrote: Is there a commonly used VPN client for Debian? I'd like to vpn to a windows network at work, but I'm not sure if there is something that works like the VPN client built in to XP (which is what I currently use). For windows VPN, you will probably need to patch your kernel with the MPPE patch. Many places that use MS PPTP VPN solutions also use their broken encryption. You can also look here: http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/ That will get you started with some good instructions and packages, etc. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: netstat output
Adam Hardy wrote: Is this some brute force dictionary attack in progress on my webserver? The full foreign address is zns551-ga01a.us.yokogawa.com. Those nasty people in Yokogawa! Original Message Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 05:00:07 + (GMT) Active Internet connections (servers and established) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name tcp0 0 *:mysql *:* LISTEN 296/mysqld tcp0 0 *:ssh *:* LISTEN 252/sshd tcp0 0 *:12121 *:* LISTEN 298/perl tcp0 0 *:smtp *:* LISTEN 243/master tcp0 0 hardya1.miniserver:ssh zns551-ga01a.us.y:35467 TIME_WAIT - tcp0 0 hardya1.miniserver:ssh zns551-ga01a.us.y:34313 TIME_WAIT - tcp0 0 hardya1.miniserver:ssh zns551-ga01a.us.y:34056 TIME_WAIT - tcp0 0 hardya1.miniserver:ssh zns551-ga01a.us.y:35102 TIME_WAIT - tcp0 0 hardya1.miniserver:ssh zns551-ga01a.us.y:35422 TIME_WAIT - tcp0 0 hardya1.miniserver:ssh zns551-ga01a.us.y:33646 TIME_WAIT - tcp0 0 hardya1.miniserver:ssh zns551-ga01a.us.y:36109 TIME_WAIT - tcp0 0 hardya1.miniserver:ssh zns551-ga01a.us.y:35949 TIME_WAIT - tcp0 0 hardya1.miniserver:ssh zns551-ga01a.us.y:34477 TIME_WAIT - tcp0 0 hardya1.miniserver:ssh zns551-ga01a.us.y:35841 TIME_WAIT - tcp0 0 hardya1.miniserver:ssh zns551-ga01a.us.y:34704 TIME_WAIT - tcp0 0 hardya1.miniserver:ssh zns551-ga01a.us.y:34183 TIME_WAIT - tcp0 0 hardya1.miniserver:ssh zns551-ga01a.us.y:36054 TIME_WAIT - tcp0 0 hardya1.miniserver:ssh zns551-ga01a.us.y:36054 TIME_WAIT - tcp0 0 localhost:8005 *:* LISTEN 279/java tcp0 0 *:www *:* LISTEN 279/java tcp0 0 *:https *:* LISTEN 279/java tcp1 0 localhost:2948 localhost:mysql CLOSE_WAIT 279/java tcp1 0 localhost:4947 localhost:mysql CLOSE_WAIT 279/java Either that, our someone is trying to DoS you. Try setting your firewall to ratelimit inbound ssh connections to one or two per minute. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X 7.0 .debs????
Ron Johnson wrote: So, X.org 7.0 is out? When will it be in Etch? Tomorrow, right? Ron, I know that you know better than that :-) You've been around long enough to know that it takes a while for things to happen in Debian. Now, I do know that David Nusinow (I believe that is how you spell his name) has been prepping for the release of the modularized X.org. However, there are about a bazillion (that is a technical) packages that are stalled at the moment because of one or another transition that is ongoing. Regardless, it will happen eventually. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian and VMware
Greg Madden wrote: On Tuesday 20 December 2005 10:14, Chris Sutton wrote: Dear Sir/Mam, Is it possible to install VMware-for-Linux on Debian? Thx! -- Chris VMware does not ship modules compiled for any Debian, as they do for many other distro's. Just make sure you have a compiler installed along with the header files for your running kernel. Also, if you roll your own kernel and are using Sid or Etch, make sure that the version of gcc has not changed since compiling your kernel. VMware's make script doesn't like that sort of thing. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox and XFCE4 session management
C. Chad Wallace wrote: Hello, Is there a way to get Firefox to load automatically in an XFCE4 session? Most programs (specifically Gaim, Amarok and Terminal) will just reload with the same state if I log out and choose Save session with them open. Firefox doesn't do this. I'd like to have Firefox load on session start-up with two particular pages loaded in two tabs. The two tabs can be accomplished by opening the preferences dialog and at the top of the general section putting the two URLs separated by a pipe (|) character. As far as getting firefox to actually start when XFCE starts, I am not sure. I'm sure I could write a session script to do this, but it's much more convenient to just be able to set stuff up as I want it, then log out and save my session. My KDE-zealot co-worker informs me that Konqueror does this perfectly. ;-) Yeah? Why don't you ask your co-worker if Konquerer has a cuddly orange fox for a mascot? I don't think he'll have a sensible answer :-) Thanks. Chad. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Silicon Image 3114 and Seagate?
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Sun, 18 Dec 2005, Roberto Sanchez wrote: search [0], I am a bit hesitant to get that combination. Does anyone on the list have any firsthand experience with Barracuda drives on a 3114 controller? What have you encountered? Bad question. You need to know exactly *WHICH* Barracuda drives you are talking about, and which people are talking about when they reply to you. Don't expect 7200.9 Barracudas (SATA 300) to work fine with some broken SATA 150 chipsets (such as Intel ICH5/ICH5R). They *may* work, or they may fail to work (but at least if it is a 300/150 issue, it is an all-or-nothing, so no data loss). 7200.8 have NCQ and non-NCQ versions, so you need to know which you're dealing with as well. You did not specify whether I should be looking for a drive with NCQ or without NCQ. :-) Anyhow, I am considering combining these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16856152018 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148065 Do you think that I may run into problems with these? -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Silicon Image 3114 and Seagate?
I am getting ready to purchase a system that has the Silicon Image 3114 SATA controller. I understand that it is well supported, even by the default kernel in Sarge. However, I was also planning on getting some Seagate Barracuda drives. Based on some things I found via a Google search [0], I am a bit hesitant to get that combination. Does anyone on the list have any firsthand experience with Barracuda drives on a 3114 controller? What have you encountered? -Roberto [0] http://www.google.com/search?hl=esq=linux+3114+seagatebtnG=B%C3%BAsqueda+en+Googlelr= -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Silicon Image 3114 and Seagate?
Don Hayward wrote: Hi Roberto, On Sun, 18 Dec 2005, Roberto Sanchez wrote: I am getting ready to purchase a system that has the Silicon Image 3114 SATA controller. I understand that it is well supported, even by the default kernel in Sarge. However, I was also planning on getting some Seagate Barracuda drives. Based on some things I found via a Google search [0], I am a bit hesitant to get that combination. Does anyone on the list have any firsthand experience with Barracuda drives on a 3114 controller? What have you encountered? I have three systems on Tyan S2875 (Dual Opteron) boards with sil 3114 chips all carrying 4 Barracuda drives. Two have had no problems. The other is the oldest and has had a variety of issues. I lately flashed the bios to the latest version and installed amd64 etch from the beta install image (2.6.12 I believe) and things have been stable since. OK. Thanks. I am getting ready to buy a couple of GX28 (2882 based) systems. I am glad to hear that they work. Since I am getting newer drives and newer systems, I imagine that I should not have any trouble. However, to be clear, you are running Sarge on these systems? Also, did you run into any trouble with the installer detecting anything? I was planning on doing the Sarge amd64 netinstall. I have read conflicting reports about compatibility with the broadcom ethernet devices. Was that an issue for you? Thanks very much for your time and insight. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [SOLVED]update etc/aliases.db
Ernst-Magne Vindal wrote: Hmm...found it, I just run newaliases and /etc/init.d/postfix reload. I use a little shell script (located in /usr/local/sbin): #!/bin/sh echo Updating Postfix configuration postmap /etc/postfix/relocated postmap /etc/postfix/transport postmap hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd postmap hash:/etc/postfix/helo_checks postmap hash:/etc/postfix/sender_checks postmap hash:/etc/postfix/client_checks newaliases postfix reload Whenever I update any of the components of my postfix configuration, I run this script. You can tailor it to your particular configuration very easily. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Silicon Image 3114 and Seagate?
Don Hayward wrote: Two are etch, one is sarge. The sarge and one etch started out as sid before the sarge release. The sarge was downgraded to sarge after release. The reinstall has always been etch. OK. That's what I needed to know. Sorry, I have no experience with broadcom -- My LAN interfaces are Intel 82541 which gave no problem. I was under the impression that all TYAN boards had broadcom LAN interfaces. Thanks again. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slowing down exim4
Clinton V. Weiss wrote: (Posted on alt.comp.mail.exim over a month ago with no answers - hope someone here can help me on this...) On my desktop machine (Debian unstable) I have a couple of different programs (fetchyahoo, etc.) that go and get mail and send them to other emails for me. These programs are nice n quick, and exim4 is mailing them out just as fast. However, my internet provider doesn't seem to enjoy my computer sending email at a rate quicker than one email per 10 seconds. Is there any way I can setup exim4 to send each email 10 seconds apart to avoid too frequent SMTP connections to my ISP? Or perhaps someone has a better suggestion? I searched [0], but could not find anything that appeared to be easy to implement. You may just be out of luck. Incidentally, what braindead policy do they have in place? Are you able to send mail directly? Or do you have to connect to their mail server? -Roberto [0] http://www.google.com/search?hl=esq=rate+limit+eximbtnG=B%C3%BAsquedalr= -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kino problem - doesn't read files
Russ Cook wrote: I am running an AMD64 dual-core machine, on an Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe motherboard.I'm running Debian-64, Sarge (I think). My sources.list file is attached. I'm trying to use Kino to edit some video files for burning to DVD. When I try to load an AVI file, I get the error Failed to load media. When I try to load an MPG file, I get the error Invalid file specified. The version of Kino is 0.7.5. Since I'm running 64-bit Linux, I don't know if the problem is my own ignorance, or a compatibility issue, or both. Can anyone offer some pointers? Thanks much, Russ # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: #deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main #deb-src http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main deb http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ testing main deb http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ testing contrib deb http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ testing non-free deb http://spello.sscnet.ucla.edu/marillat/ sarge main deb http://spello.sscnet.ucla.edu/marillat/ sid main deb-src http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ testing main deb-src http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ testing contrib deb-src http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ testing non-free Actually, you are running Etch. BTW, you can combine the individual lines that contain main, contrib and non-free into a single line ending in main contrib non-free. I'm not sure about your video editing problem. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slowing down exim4
Clinton V. Weiss wrote: It is Comcast (enough said?). I haven't been able to find any official policy, but my guess is this is done to prevent malware infected computers from sending out hundreds of spams. So, despite my good intentions, I am being limited. I'm sorry to hear that (that Comcast is your ISP). I had a problem previously with SBC (when I was still them), where they started blocking all outbound port 25. I was able to call them up and (after lots of wrangling and arguing with an Indian guy who said his name was Mike) get them to lift the restriction on my account. Anyhowm you should be able to call up their customer service and get them to lift the restriction your account. I am connecting to their mail server directly. I don't have the know how of setting up a mail server directly on this Debian unstable machine, nor do I really want to do that. If you are running Sid, it is probably not a good idea to have a mail server facing directly out to the Internet. All the emails do *eventually* get sent out as exim4 goes through its unsent emails, but I prefer to keep my logs uncluttered with the error messages. I see. Could you not just configure exim to not log those attempts? -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Silicon Image 3114 and Seagate?
Katipo wrote: I think that Seagate would have just about anything catered for. Might be an idea to check out the latest, though. They may be a little expensive, but with the space they save, that's money in the bank, dependent on your application. http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q4/seagate-7200.9/index.x?pg=1 That looks good. However, the .9 series are 3.0 Gb/s drives and the system I am getting has the Silicon Image 3114 controller, which only supports SATA-150. I don't think I can justify the extra expense to get the .9 drives. But thanks for the pointer. I'll keep them in mind if I get a system that supports that speed. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to compile custom 2.4 series kernel in Sarge with root on LVM?
Amal Phadke wrote: Hi all, I am trying to compile a custom 2.4 series kernel for my server box which has /boot as a separate ext3 partition and / (root) partition on LVM (/dev/mapper/vg00-lv03), because I prefer to have all the drivers corresponding to my server hardware compiled into the kernel and none as modules. But it has been a total failure. Apparently the latest stock 2.4.32 kernel has no built in device mapper support. So I downloaded Debian kernel-sources-2.4.27 package, configured it with compiled-in (ie no modules) drivers specific to my server hardware. I made sure LVM, device mapper, ramdisk and cramfs support was compiled in. I couldn't compile in devfs support because that option was disabled in make xconfig. This could be the problem but I have no workaround for it. Also I am not sure whether I would need initrd image or not, but I created one anyway using mkinitrd -k -o /boot/initrd.img in Sarge kernel which is also the same version. I correctly set GRUB options to point to new kernel, and initrd images and rebooted the server. I get kernel panic in the boot process after it fails to find devfs filesystem and then fails to find dev/console. Can anyone point me to a step by step document on how to compile a custom kernel in Debian Sarge with root on LVM? I would really appreciate some help. AIUI, the only way to get root on LVM to work is with an initrd. Have you tried that? When I setup my workstation I specifically did not put root on LVM so I would not need to mess with an initrd. Also, have you tried to Google search? http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/upgradetolvmroot.html http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/upgraderoottolvm.html -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question on backups using rsync
Brad Sims wrote: I have a 300GB external HD that contains a current / with the exeption of /proc/ /tmp/ /mnt/ /dev/ and /sys/... Is it possible do a bare-metal restore using this? Also can you think of anything useful to add to this script? SNIP script Have you considered switching to systemimager, dirvish, or another of the very featureful rsync-based backup tools? -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Error when starting apache2 (new installation)
Philippe Dhont (Sea-ro) wrote: Hello, I installed apache2 wit apt-get and i get: [Fri Dec 16 14:17:57 2005] [notice] mod_python: Creating 20 session mutexes based on 20 max processes and 0 max threads. [Fri Dec 16 14:17:57 2005] [error] (38)Function not implemented: mod_python: Failed to create global mutex 0 of 20 (/tmp/mpmtx115400). Configuration Failed Mod_python is in available mods. Anybody any idea ? Thnx! How are you starting it? Is mod_python enabled? -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fresh installation: Segmentation fault
Amar P. Patel wrote: Hello! I followed the instructions on http://www.pdc.kth.se/heimdal/heimdal.html to install heimdal kerberos, but when I run kinit me and enter the correct password it spits out Segmentation fault. I am using berkeley db to store the keys. Anyone experience this error before. I have tried compiling everything from scratch but same problem. Here are the build options I used: CFLAGS='-g -O2' CXXFLAGS='-g -O2' CCFLAGS=-g -O2 -D_REENTRANT ./configure \ --prefix=/usr/local --sysconfdir=/etc --enable-shared \ --enable-pthread-support --with-openssl=/usr/local --without-readline \ --without-openldap --without-hesiod --without-ipv6 Is there any particular reason that the Kerberos packages included in Debian are not suitable? -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fresh installation: Segmentation fault
Amar P. Patel wrote: The packages included in Debian are not suitable since they are outdated. I want the latest version of Heimdal Kerberos: 0.7.1. Amar It appears that version 0.7.1 is in experimental: http://packages.debian.org/experimental/source/heimdal Might I recommend that you download the Debian sources and backport them yourself? I have written a howto on package customization (which includes backporting): http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto/howtos/debcustomize If you like, you can then also create a package repository on your network so that all the machines can get your customized packages that you built. Let me know if you have any questions about this. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install kernel-source-2.6.8 update
Marty wrote: New kernel in 5 easy steps! 1) untar /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.8.tar.bz2 Check. 2) Add your .config (e.g. from /proc/config.gz) Check. 3) make oldconfig;make bzImage Why not use make-kpkg from kernel-package? 4) replace old bzImage in /boot See last. 5) run lilo Switch to grub :-) -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: don't understand something about xpdf
Joe Mc Cool wrote: cutting and pasting from a pdf - both text and image - is fairly easy using the tools/utils from xpdf. Under X I can drag my mouse over the _text_ in a pdf file. Then in an xemacs window I can double click and the text is pasted in there. (A very useful facility.) How come ? Surely the text in the pdf file is not ascii ? Surely even the text is stored as a graphic in the pdf file ? I am obviously misunderstanding something. Joe Mc Cool PDF is just a stripped down and compressed version of PS. Thus, the text is certainly copyable. It may not be stored directly in ASCII format in the PDF (as in I am not sure if this is the case or not), but it is accessible as some kind of text. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to make dpkg forget a package was ever there?
Quoting William Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: vrms still lists some non-free packages on my system as purged. References to these are found in /var/lib/dpkg/status. Can I just edit this file? I have edited /var/lib/dpkg/status to recover from a b0rked system after a power outage in the middle of a fairly big dist-upgrade. Just be careful, as you have the potential to really hose dpkg's idea of what is on your system. -Roberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to make dpkg forget a package was ever there?
Quoting William Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 12:22:50AM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: I have edited /var/lib/dpkg/status to recover from a b0rked system after a power outage in the middle of a fairly big dist-upgrade. Just be careful, as you have the potential to really hose dpkg's idea of what is on your system. I'll show you the bit I want to edit out: begins... present in the `icu' and `icu-locales` packages. Package: fglrx-4.3.0-kernel-2.6.9 Status: purge ok not-installed Priority: extra Section: non-free/x11 Architecture: i386 Package: unrar continues I want to remove the middle bit, related to fglrx-4.3.0-kernel-2.6.9. Just chomp it out? It also appears in status-old. Doesn't seem like it would be a problem. I would say, though, that the correct behavior for vrms is to ignore the package. If you have purged it, all traces a presumably gone. Thus, the package is no longer there. I would recommend filing a bug report. -Roberto Sanchez This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dhcp apparently handing out the wrong ip address
Alan Chandler wrote: On Saturday 08 January 2005 20:25, Alan Chandler wrote: On Saturday 08 January 2005 14:35, Robert Vangel wrote: . After releasing, make sure you clean out /var/lib/dhcp3/dhcpd.leases (I think), it may cache what IP to assign to clients (although you would think the configuration would override this). Process I would use to clean it: stop dhcp3-server, clean out dhcpd.leases, start dhcp3-server. Tried that too - doesn't seem to help Its almost as though win 2000 has kept a record and is asking for the same address in the ... request Sorry clicked send to early IIRC, though it has been a long time since I messed with Windows networking, if the DHCP server takes too long to offer an address, it will simply use the previously issued address. -Roberto Sanchez -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rudeness in changelogs
Quoting Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 08-Jan-05, 15:08 (CST), Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this really called for in changelogs? Note that the bug reports were perfectly polite. Not really called for, but I understand the frustration with people who have nothing better to do than nag, and (for the second bug) without even checking the existing bugs! Did the maintainer bother to inform the submitter of that? I know that when I started with Debian a few years ago, I had no clue. I barely knew how to submit a bug, never mind figuring out how to see if it had already been submitted. I think the maintainer's words would have been more productively employed in educating the submitter. Granted, the Debian BTS is much more intuitive that other bug tracking systems (e.g., Bugzilla), but it is still a lot for newbie to grasp. Imagining myself as a student in this class: I complete the requested assignment, with luck make an A, only to have the prof post it to the internet and then be insulted by perfect strangers as they use my work to fix their problems. These would be the same students who didn't even have the minimum decency to attempt to notify the upstream authors before publishing the bugs? I think taking a dig at them in the changelog is the *least* anyone should do. IIRC, DJB published the bugs, not the students. Even if he didn't and the students did, who cares? It pains me to think that people who have a stake in free software, as all Debian developers and users do, would stoop to such childish antics. We are all mostly adults, or at least close to it, we should act like it. Someone took the time to find a problem in one of our packages. Regardless of how they went about it, we should thank them, fix the package and feel happy that the goals of the Debian project have been furthered. -Roberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
APT Repository HOWTO
I know that there are several APT repository HOWTOs floating around out there. However, none were particularly useful to me when I set out to make my own repository. Pretty much everyone out there focuses on the trivial repository format. I wanted to do it right and have a well-structured automatic repository. Anyhow, I spent lots of time reading the not-so-great documentation for apt- ftparchive and the apt.conf format. I also did lots of trial and error mistakes before I got it right. Anyhow, the HOWTO is here: http://familiasanchez.net/~sanchezr/?page=debrepository I welcome any suggestions and feedback. -Roberto Sanchez This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 'Virtual Private Servers' - Advice, recollections and recommendations requested
Quoting Rich Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So here are the first few questions. Direct answers, pointers to relevant FM's and better questions welcome: 1. Reputable providers: Who do you use that you would recommend? UML seems acceptable, since our load will be almost minuscule to begin with. At least one static ip is a must. I recently took over managing my church's website. The site is hosted at www.nomonthlyfees.com. I think they run RedHat 7.3 with cPanel, but they offer ssh access, static IP, unlimited subdomains and emails, etc. Their tech support is also very good. They have been responding very quickly to all my queries. Their plans are $70-$100/yr. 2. How do I get a grip on potential traffic volume? I'm sure there's a formula out there somewhere that I can plug some numbers into that will give me an approximation. This really is a shoe-string non-profit and I don't want to buy more than we really need, but if I find good deal I want to be reasonably comfortable I won't run into surcharges for excess traffic later on. The hosting provider I mention above offers 600 MB space and 25 GB/month (for the $70 plan) or 800 MB space and 35 GB/month (for the $100 plan). That should be plenty for most any organization. 3. Instant messaging: I don't use it, have never investigated it, and know nothing. I will investigate, but a few signposts would be welcome. Can't help you here. -Roberto Sanchez This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GNUMail.app
OK. GNUMail.app just went into Sarge today. It is supposed to be like the NeXT/Apple Mail.app (neither of which I have used). I must say that it is really nice. I am seriously considering switching from Thunderbird. It has very nice and intuitive interfaces, native gpg integration (no plugin necessary), and a bunch of really nice features. My only beef is that there was no way to configure it for SMTP/TLS over port 25 (which is what my mailserver is set for), so I had to enable sslwrap on port 465. But that was only a minor annoyance. I heartily recommend anyone who uses a GUI MUA and is one of the *Step environments most of the time. -Roberto Sanchez RFC3156 defines security multipart formats for MIME with OpenPGP. pgphOMcciNihG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: dkpg --purge question..
Quoting Ishwar Rattan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I installed sylpheed-clasws using apt-get and want to remove it. # dpkg --purge sylpheed-claws .. complains that sylpheed-claws-i18n depends on sylpheed-claws and won't be removed .. #dpkg -purge sylpheed-claws-i18n .. complains that sylpheed-claws depends on sylpheed-claws-i18n and won't be removed .. Any pointers? -ishwar Sure. Don't use dpkg unless you are installing a pacakge from a local .deb file. dpkg does not handle *any* dependency resolution. To purge your package, use: apt-get remove --purge sylpheed-claws -Roberto Sanchez This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: best high performance video card for debian
dorn hetzel wrote: Ok, I know this is a subjective question with subjective answers, but would anyone care to venture personal recommendations on good high performance video cards which work well and are relatively easy to get X up and running well on. Platform would be some flavor of debian with 2.6.10ish kernel. Bonus points for pci-express cards known to work well :) -Dorn If you want to be able to game (CS, NWN, UT, etc.) then get an nVidia card, flat out. The reason is that most modern games utilize S3 Texture Compression, which is patented. The binary drivers for nVidia are far and away better than the binary drivers for ATI. I should know, I struggled with the binary ATI drivers for over a year. When I finally bought an nVidia card, the binary drivers Just Worked(TM). If gaming is NOT a concern, then buy an ATI card. If you want good 3D acceleration, then everything upto and including the 9200 is extremely well supported in the current XFree86 in Sid/Sarge. I have had the open source dri drivers give my up to 25% better performance than the binary ATI drivers. Overall, the ATI card, if it is supported by XFree86, is easier to get working. But, if you want gaming performance, your only real choice is an nVidia. -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Kernel 2.6.8 won't boot
Muhammad Reza wrote: Dear Lists, I'm stuck with compiling debian kernel-2.6.8 source at Sarge, this is what exactly i did... debian:/usr/src# ln -s kernel-source-2.6.8 linux debian:/boot# cd /usr/src/linux debian:/usr/src/linux# cp /root/config .config debian:/usr/src/linux#patch -p1 /root/bootsplash-3.1.6-2.6.8.diff debian:/usr/src/linux#make menuconfig debian:/usr/src#make-kpkg --initrd --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image sucess- debian:/usr/src/linux# cd ../ debian:/usr/src# ls kernel-image-2.6.8_custom.1.0_i386.deb kernel-patches kernel-source-2.6.8 kernel-source-2.6.8.tar.bz2 linux debian:/usr/src# dpkg -i kernel-image-2.6.8_custom.1.0_i386.deb ---sucess--- but new compile kernel wont boot with this error... RAMDISK: cramfs file system found at block 0 RAMDISK: loading 3620 block [1 disk] into ramdisk done.. Kernel Panic:VFS:unable to mount root fs on unknown_block(3.1) please help me...to solved this problem.. here is .config and menu.lst in attach Have you tried without an initrd? Also, do you have /boot on a seperate partition? -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: How to get Sound to work - Need step by step instructions
Syed Huq wrote: Ditch that kernel and install another one, either kernel-image-2.2.20 or kernel-image-2.4.18-1-386|686|k6|k7|586. If you use 2.4.18, don't forget to configure lilo to use the initrd needed to boot that kernel. After booting with the new kernel, try again. I tried 'ditching' that kernel by upgrading to Sarge. It was a nightmare and had to switch back to Woody. So no solutions there. IF(not a possibility), I had kernel 2.4.18: 1) How to configure lilo 2) Try again...try what ? I am still hoping someone can provide a step-by-step instructions. - Rathon Before you start messing around with new kernels, do yourself a favor and switch to Grub. Once you get it installed, it is much easier. Additionally, if you use symlinks like /vmlinuz and /vmlinuz.old and so on, you can point the symlinks at newly installed kernels and reboot without reinstalling Grub. This is because Grub actually reads your filesystem. It is also easier to recover from a botched kernel install as you can easily edit the entire kernel command line. I know this can also sort of happen with lilo, but it is much easier and flexible with Grub. initrd's are also handled better in Grub. -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: mod_perl for apache insallation problem
Umar Draz wrote: Hi Dear Members! i want to configure apache with mode_perl after run make command i got this error plz help me how i can solve it /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[1]: *** [libperl.so] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/lamp/pkg/mod_perl-1.29/apaci' make: *** [apxs_libperl] Error 2 thanks and regards Umar Draz That means that you are missing the libperl-dev package. But why don't you just install the libapache-mod-perl package? -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: META: Re: When the thread wanders too far
David Jardine wrote: On Fri, Dec 31, 2004 at 01:14:51PM -0500, Eric d'Alibut wrote: When freedom and tolerance seem to fail, repression always is an answer. Sound familiar? Be afraid, children, be very afraid. That last sentence certainly sounds pathetically familiar ;-) Yes. I believe Master Yoda said it :-) -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: pppd: CHAP authentication failed
Mauro Darida wrote: Hello, I am experiencing a weird thing: I have got KDE kppp perfectly working but when it comes to use pppd directly with the pon script even from root pppd won't start. I have the following /var/log/ppp.log: Dec 29 19:49:50 ifi pppd[1302]: pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0 Dec 29 19:49:50 ifi pppd[1302]: Serial connection established. Dec 29 19:49:50 ifi pppd[1302]: Using interface ppp0 Dec 29 19:49:50 ifi pppd[1302]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/pts/5 Dec 29 19:50:22 ifi pppd[1302]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests Dec 29 19:50:22 ifi pppd[1302]: Connection terminated. Dec 29 19:50:52 ifi pppd[1302]: Serial connection established. Dec 29 19:50:52 ifi pppd[1302]: Using interface ppp0 Dec 29 19:50:52 ifi pppd[1302]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/pts/0 Dec 29 19:51:23 ifi pppd[1302]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests Dec 29 19:51:23 ifi pppd[1302]: Connection terminated. Dec 29 19:51:53 ifi pppd[1302]: Serial connection established. Dec 29 19:51:53 ifi pppd[1302]: Using interface ppp0 Dec 29 19:51:53 ifi pppd[1302]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/pts/5 Dec 29 19:52:24 ifi pppd[1302]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests Dec 29 19:52:24 ifi pppd[1302]: Connection terminated. Dec 29 20:40:02 ifi pppd[793]: pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0 Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]: abort on (BUSY) Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]: abort on (NO CARRIER) Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]: abort on (VOICE) Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]: abort on (NO DIALTONE) Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]: abort on (NO DIAL TONE) Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]: abort on (NO ANSWER) Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]: abort on (DELAYED) Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]: send (ATZ^M) Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]: expect (OK) Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]: ATZ^M^M Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]: OK Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]: -- got it Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]: send (ATDT7020001033^M) Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]: expect (CONNECT) Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]: ^M Dec 29 20:40:27 ifi chat[798]: ATDT7020001033^M^M Dec 29 20:40:27 ifi chat[798]: CONNECT Dec 29 20:40:27 ifi chat[798]: -- got it Dec 29 20:40:27 ifi chat[798]: send (\d) Dec 29 20:40:28 ifi pppd[793]: Serial connection established. Dec 29 20:40:28 ifi pppd[793]: using channel 1 Dec 29 20:40:28 ifi pppd[793]: Using interface ppp0 Dec 29 20:40:28 ifi pppd[793]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttySHSF0 Dec 29 20:40:29 ifi pppd[793]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x67fdddb6 pcomp accomp] Dec 29 20:40:30 ifi pppd[793]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 mru 1524 asyncmap 0xa auth chap MD5 pcomp accomp mrru 1524 endpoint [local:73.74.61.63.6b.31]] Dec 29 20:40:30 ifi pppd[793]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x1 mrru 1524] Dec 29 20:40:30 ifi pppd[793]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x67fdddb6 pcomp accomp] Dec 29 20:40:30 ifi pppd[793]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x2 mru 1524 asyncmap 0xa auth chap MD5 pcomp accomp endpoint [local:73.74.61.63.6b.31]] Dec 29 20:40:30 ifi pppd[793]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x2 mru 1524 asyncmap 0xa auth chap MD5 pcomp accomp endpoint [local:73.74.61.63.6b.31]] Dec 29 20:40:30 ifi pppd[793]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0x67fdddb6] Dec 29 20:40:30 ifi pppd[793]: rcvd [CHAP Challenge id=0x1 67ebcc8735df1478486093c19f9e869c, name = apx-na1] Dec 29 20:40:30 ifi pppd[793]: sent [CHAP Response id=0x1 8b7464067e56bd43969a6f290ef2e077, name = robert210] Dec 29 20:40:30 ifi pppd[793]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x0] Dec 29 20:40:31 ifi pppd[793]: rcvd [CHAP Failure id=0x1 \000] Dec 29 20:40:31 ifi pppd[793]: Remote message: ^@ Dec 29 20:40:31 ifi pppd[793]: CHAP authentication failed Dec 29 20:40:31 ifi pppd[793]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0x2 Failed to authenticate ourselves to peer] Dec 29 20:40:31 ifi pppd[793]: rcvd [LCP TermAck id=0x2] Dec 29 20:40:31 ifi pppd[793]: Connection terminated. Dec 29 20:40:31 ifi pppd[793]: Hangup (SIGHUP) Dec 29 20:40:31 ifi pppd[793]: Exit. Any clue? Is this for a VPN connection? When I had this problem, I was forgetting to enable refuse-eap The server to which I was trying to connect would, for some reason, offer EAP and then refuse to authenticate with it. I simply had to disable it and then CHAP authentication mysteriously started functioning. -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: OpenOffice (sid) just quit , WHY?
John Foster wrote: I was using OpenOffice as a web writer and it seemed to be running sporadically, slowing way down, then it crashed and now will not start at all. I removed it from my system and reinstalled it and it still does not work. Any one know of this? The only thing that I had done was involving Apache2 PHP4 as far as altering my system. That does not work yet either, but that's a different problem. Try running /usr/sbin/oooprelink to re-prelink your binaries. -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: PDF Form Editing.
Nayyar Ahmed wrote: Hello All, I want to edit a PDF form, is there any utility ? TIA, Are you referring to a fillable PDF form, as one created in Acrobat Professional or some such Adobe product? If so, try installing the acroread package from: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main Substitute stable or testing if that is your preference. -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Backup-software FTP
Karsten M. Self wrote: on Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 06:04:53PM +1100, Sam Watkins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 02:09:43PM +0100, Jon-Eirik Pettersen wrote: What would you recommend of software to do simple directory-based backups to an FTP-server? I like lftp, it can do recursive upload / download (mirror, mirror -R). Can you run that noninteractively? I use lftp but haven't found a good way to script it. Would be useful for a few websites I manage. Otherwise, of course, rsync rocks, but a lot of ISPs haven't caught up with the 20th Century yet. Peace. If you use lftp -f script it will execute the commands in the script file. I suppose you could write up a script and throw the lftp command into your crontab. -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Installing old tarballs on a new Debian system
cga wrote: I am currently switching to Debian and I have a bunch of utilities, wmaker applets, etc.. in source format that I would like to reinstall on the new system. Unfortunately a number of these are not available as .deb's. As I see it I can either copy them to /usr/local/tarballs do the usual ./configure/make/ make-install dance or try to create .deb's myself. This last approach being probably the more dangerous. Is there any place in the Debian literature where this issue is discussed? Any guidelines concerning source(non-debian) install on Debian system? Are there any tools that might help automate the conversion of source packages to the .deb format? The new maintainer's guide talks about how to build .deb packages. It is the most academically correct solution. For a quick and dirty solution, use checkinstall. It is in unstable. Basically you do this: tar zxvf your-source-package cd your-source-directory ./configure with-desired-options make su checkinstall make install Answer the few questions at the end to tweak the version and package name to your liking and viola, you have a Debianized package that integrates with your package database for your non-Debian source package. I have used successfully for several projects I am developing. I olnly wish I had known about it sooner. My main goal at this point is having a system that's clean to start off with and will remain as clean as possible for the foreseeable future - ie. not some a-la-win95 system that needs a complete reinstall every couple of months. I understand that Debian might provide exactly this but I am concerned that by the time I become a little more experienced with its packaging system I may have polluted this new system beyond repair. Please advise. Thank you. HTH, -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/
Aditya Pratap wrote: Hi, I am getting this message when I try to upgrade KDE using apt-get install - You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/. Is it ok if I delete the files in this directory? Or is there any other way out. Thanking in advance, You are just storing previously downloaded versions of your packages. Personally, I run apt-proxy for all my machines, so I always apt-get clean after installing a package. If you don't run a proxy or have a slow connection, you may want to consider using apt-get autoclean which will leave only downloaded packages which are still available in the archives, i.e., packages that you can still install. -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Backups - what files can safely be omitted?
Robert S wrote: Thanks for the folks who advised me re backing up a running system. I'm just testing mondo at the moment. Looks ideal for my purposes. What files can safely be omitted from a debian system backup? Obvious ones are /var/cache/apt/archives (if you're like me an hold onto these files) and /var/spool/squid (if you use squid). Is there anything crucial in /var/log that can't be trashed? Is there anything else in /var? It all depends on how much time you want to invest into restoring your system in the event of a failure. Linus Torvalds says Real men don't backup. They upload everything to FTP and let the rest of the world mirror it. That being said, I use two different schemes. For my server I create a systemimager backup. If something goes south on me, I can boot it from the backup image and have it restored in the time it takes to transfer the information across the network. I also create a daily tar of the systemimager image and keep a couple of weeks worth. This way I can revert to a previous state, if necesary. For my workstation I simply create a tar of /etc /home and /root and of dpkg-get --get-selections. If something goes wrong, I reinstall with my previously selected packages, untar /etc /home and /root and then I am ready to go. This method takes longer, but is much more space efficient. I don't personally back up anything /var on my workstation, but if you run a website, then /var/www and if you run databases or store email then /var/lib and /var/mail, respectively. HTH, -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[[offlist] Re: [Way off topic] the Quran
Syed Huq wrote: The Muslims believe in a conecpt of nullification (I forget the correct term) that essentially states that later verses in the Quran that contradict with earlier verses, contradict or trump the earlier verses. Read the book I mention above and you will see what I mean. The Quran directly contradicts itself and parts of Hadith contradict what the Quran says. -Roberto Sanchez This is absolute bullshit to be precise. There is no piece of the Quran OR the Hadith that ever contradicts each other. Infact, it compliments each other in many respect. Why not read the original Quran and the Hadith and draw your conclusion instead of 'one man's interpretationwhich is as I said is pure bull. - Rathon Then why do early verses in the Quran say that Jews and Christians (people of the Book) or OK and can continue practicing their religion and later say that they must be converted? That would seem like a contradiction to me. Here you go: Surah 2:62: Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the Christians, and the converts; anyone who (1) believes in GOD, and (2) believes in the Last Day, and (3) leads a righteous life, will receive their recompense from their Lord. They have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve. Seems to me like Jews and Christians are OK. Surah 5:82: You will find that the worst enemies of the believers are the Jews and the idol worshipers. And you will find that the closest people in friendship to the believers are those who say, We are Christian. This is because they have priests and monks among them, and they are not arrogant. Oops. The Jews are not longer so friendly. If that is not a contradiction, then I don't know what is. -Roberto signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [[offlist] Re: [Way off topic] the Quran
Syed Huq wrote: Then why do early verses in the Quran say that Jews and Christians (people of the Book) or OK and can continue practicing their religion and later say that they must be converted? That would seem like a contradiction to me. The Quran considers Jews and Christians as people of the Book because Allah had given them the Torah and the Bible(which got corrupted by man). Also, Islam believes in the same prophets as Abraham, Moses and Jesus(Prophet Isa). There are NO mentions in the Quran to convert anyone. Infact conversion to religion is forbidden in Islam. One may preach Islam to any and all and it is left upto the receipient to make his/her own decision. Here you go: Surah 2:62: Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the Christians, and the converts; anyone who (1) believes in GOD, and (2) believes in the Last Day, and (3) leads a righteous life, will receive their recompense from their Lord. They have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve. Seems to me like Jews and Christians are OK. Surah 5:82: You will find that the worst enemies of the believers are the Jews and the idol worshipers. And you will find that the closest people in friendship to the believers are those who say, We are Christian. This is because they have priests and monks among them, and they are not arrogant. Oops. The Jews are not longer so friendly. If that is not a contradiction, then I don't know what is. What you are doing is quoting bits and pieces from here and there and trying to make a contradiction. Read Surah 5:81 the verse above the one you had quoted: If they believed in Allah and the Prophet and that is which is revealed unto him, they would not choose them for their friends. But many of them are of evil conduct. 5:81 OK. This makes sense. Because Jews and Christians do not believe in the last prophet(Muhammad(pbuh), they are 'not in the right path' anymore. So even though they are people of the book, they are still the wrong doers, evil conduct etc etc etc This also makes sense. So your own bits-an-pieces-interpretation is causing this contraction. You should read the entire Surah and then understand what is being said. This does not make sense. You completely avoid the fact that Surah 2:62 says that they have nothing to fear. So, is a Jews or a Crhsitian on the right path as Surah 2:62 indicates if he (1) believes in GOD, and (2) believes in the Last Day, and (3) leads a righteous life ... OR is he not on the right path as you say Surah 5:81,82 indicates? Again, thank you for your explanation of Surah 5:81,82. This clarifies that particular point for me, but fails to address the contradiction. Peace be upon you my friend.. And peace be unto you. - Rathon -Roberto signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org
Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: Roberto Sanchez wrote: You missed on of the best: To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted; A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up; A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance; A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing; A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away; A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak; A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace. This quote doesn't mention a time to think, even less a time to question... but if you started doing that, the bible - nor the quran - would not stand for very long. Unless you start to doublethink of course :-) Ecclesiates 3:1-8 = bull What do you think a time to keep silence, and a time to speak; means, then? I agree that the Q'uran contradicts itself numerous times, but there is no evidence of such thing in the Bible. Care to back up your statement? -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org
Wim De Smet wrote: On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:46:33 -0800, Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sam Watkins wrote: No. Terrorist isn't used enough. In fact Islamic Terrorist isn't used enough. People who behead other people with a machete so those being beheaded Calling people islamic terrorists is about the same as claiming that Islam is responsible for their actions. It certainly implies it. You can and should never hold an entire religion responsible for the acts of a few of its fundamentalists. After all, Bush is a christian too, but that doesn't mean all christians agree with him blowing up children in the Middle East. The difference is this: 1. Muslims who commit terrorist acts do so in *compliance* with the teachings of Mohammed and Islam. 2. Christians who commit terrorist acts are in direct opposition to the Bible and the Word of God. -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org
Wim De Smet wrote: On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 09:16:01 -0500, Roberto Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: Roberto Sanchez wrote: You missed on of the best: To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted; A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up; A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance; A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing; A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away; A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak; A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace. This quote doesn't mention a time to think, even less a time to question... but if you started doing that, the bible - nor the quran - would not stand for very long. Unless you start to doublethink of course :-) Ecclesiates 3:1-8 = bull What do you think a time to keep silence, and a time to speak; means, then? I agree that the Q'uran contradicts itself numerous times, but there is no evidence of such thing in the Bible. Care to back up your statement? Uhm many wars were fought in the OT while in the NT Jesus tells us to turn the other cheek. Off course this can be seen as a correction or a new development or whatever. In any case the views conflict. greets, Wim You are confusing the issue. Wars will be fought all throughout history: And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. All these are the beginning of sorrows. Matthew 24:6-8 The turn the other cheek verse you are referring to is this: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. Matthew 5:39 First of all, earlier in the same sermon, Jesus specifically states that he did not come do destroy Old Testament law: For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Matthew 5:18 Not only that, but if you read all of Matthew 5, you will see that the sermon is given in the context of interpersonal relationships and conflicts between individuals. Governments operate under different guidelines. -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Linux Functionality?
dorn hetzel wrote: On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 02:36:58PM -0700, Nate Duehr wrote: Nate Bargmann wrote: Hmmm, I didn't know that. I thought I-80 always went from Salt Lake City to Wendover, UT and on west. I learned something new today! The phrase I-80 strikes terror into the hearts of those who've gone East of Cheyenne, Wyoming on it. I thought I-80 translated to, oh look... more Nebraska. Driving across Nebraska really must be done to be properly appreciated. 80 is the boring way to cross Nebraska :) Head out towards Alliance and the grasslands by way of the hand-planted forest if you want a better time of it :) There is *no* good way to cross Nebraska. It is like crossing Kansas on I-35. Boring. -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Kernel installation woes on Athlon 1100: hda: lost interrupt.
Adam Funk wrote: Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam Funk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running Debian testing on an Athlon 1100 and currently using the 2.4.23-1-386 kernel. I've tried to upgrade to the following packages: kernel-image-2.4.25-1-386 kernel-image-2.4.26-1-386 kernel-image-2.4.26-1-k7 and they all get stuck on hda: lost interrupt while trying to boot. I thought any 386 kernel ought to be upward-compatible with an Athlon, and a k7 ought to be ideally suited for it. Any ideas what's wrong? Try booting with noapic. Thanks. I added that to the append=... in /etc/lilo.conf and it fixed the problem. Just out of curiosity, why did this become necessary (for my hardware at least) between the 2.4.23 and 2.4.26 kernels? What motherboard chipset do you have? -Roberto Sancheza signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org
ABrady wrote: I don't care about the OT stuff, except when it goes political. It sickens me that so much uninformed claptrap is spewed based solely on emotion, lack of coherent thought, and on complete and utter sheep mentality. It wasn't that the topic had gone OT on the other list I left, it was because it headed into areas that were totally based on opinion rather than fact. This thread has been no different in that regard. Good day. Just out of curiousity, how has the discussion been based totally on opinion? I seem to recall most everyone backing up their statements with some manner of reference, either of their one accord or once it was requested. -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [OT] Big Open Roads (Was: Linux Functionality?)
Steve Lamb wrote: Nate Duehr wrote: Nothing like the exact same view for 8 or more hours of driving. ;-) I-10 across the southwest. *blink, blink* My favorite was coming west into Texas on I-10. A helpful trucker was giving his list of bears. He ended with And one at mile-marker 3. I quickly replied Well, I just passed marker 810, d'ya think he'll still be there when I get there tomorrow? :) Yup. Nothing quite like crossing into Texas well before sun up and not crossing out until well after sun down. :-) -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [Way off topic] depleted uranium
Sam Watkins wrote: On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 02:46:33PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: The worst terrorist is America, with your depleted uranium dirty-bombs which you throw around at every opportunity, Cite? Outside of Hiroshima and Nagasaki I don't recall a detonation of any atomic or nuclear device on any civilian population. google depleted uranium birth defects pictures. America and the UK made armour-piercing and bunker-piercing shells from nuclear waste (depleted uranium). These are not conventional nuclear weapons, but dirty bombs. Depleted uranium was chosen because it is cheap (a waste product) and it is very dense so pierces armour. It also causes massive fallout and birth defects. It was used extensively in the gulf and and in yugoslavia, both in shells and in the armour of American tanks. It is the cause of the gulf war syndrome that returned American soldiers have suffered from. I am not sure that DU is cause of the Gulf War Syndrome. However, I think that using DU in munitions and tanks was a big boo-boo on the part of the US military. There were certainly safer alternatives available. -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [Way off topic] the Quran
Sam Watkins wrote: On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 09:22:30AM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: The difference is this: 1. Muslims who commit terrorist acts do so in *compliance* with the teachings of Mohammed and Islam. 2. Christians who commit terrorist acts are in direct opposition to the Bible and the Word of God. -Roberto Sanchez This is complete ignorance and falsehood. I have been reading the Quran extensively of late, it is a beautiful and peaceful book. The morality of the Quran is far beyond what is practised by leaders of any country today. Obviously you speak without having read the Quran. The Quran does not promote terrorism or senseless violence, the Quran and true Islam is extremely tolerant of other religions. The passages in the Quran concerning war are all based on the premise that the Islamic nation is under attack. The Quran repeatedly says that if the enemy wants to make peace, then the Muslim must make peace. There is a great book called Islam and the Jews: The Unfinished Battle http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0884199568/002-8071501-5144016?v=glance It is an easy read by a guy who was Muslim, and has a masters and doctorate in Islamic study. At the age of 34 he was saved and now he uses his personal experience to expose the truth of what Islam really is. I cannot quote directly from the book, as I borrowed it from a friend and have now returned, but the author provides a clear and well-founded argument. He also cites numerous Quranic verses that show just how contradictory it is. See http://submission.org/, for example, for a readable translation of the Quran. The Quran is in fact far more consistent than the bible; I am able to believe that the Quran is the uncorrupted word of God, whereas the bible itself testifies that the scribes have corrupted it: How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8) The Muslims believe in a conecpt of nullification (I forget the correct term) that essentially states that later verses in the Quran that contradict with earlier verses, contradict or trump the earlier verses. Read the book I mention above and you will see what I mean. The Quran directly contradicts itself and parts of Hadith contradict what the Quran says. Not only that, but your scripture verse is taken out of context. Chatpers 7 and 8 of Jeremiah talk about the Israelites having lost their way and becoming seperated from God. The specific verse you quote talks about how the scribes will answer at the judgment for their claim of brigning forth the inspired Word of God. Clearly, since the passage refers to people that are lost from God, it cannot be talking about those to whom the Bible was actually revealed, since those to whom it was revealed necessarily would not have been lost from God. -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org
Ron Johnson wrote: On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 09:02 +1100, Sam Watkins wrote: On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 03:42:09PM -0500, Eric d'Alibut wrote: I don't have any idea what Shuttleworth's politics are, but he obviously does not hesitate to associate himself -- even if only semantically -- with so-called revolutionary movements known for their terrorist agendas. In what way does ubuntu.org have a terrorist agenda? Or does pacifist equate to terrorist in your dictionary? Well, no, but they can be just as damaging (in different ways, of course): [SNIP: Many good quotes] Of course, there are just as many pro-pacifism quotes. You missed on of the best: To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted; A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up; A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance; A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing; A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away; A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak; A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace. Ecclesiates 3:1-8 -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org
Benjamin A'Lee wrote: On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 02:46:33PM -0800 or thereabouts, Steve Lamb wrote: Russia - IIRC, Implicated in the same scam and/or sold arms to Saddam for which he owed millions/billions on. They had a finacial interest in Iraq either way. If I remember correctly, the USA also supplied Iraq with weapons, when it was fighting Iran. And to the Taliban when it was fighting the USSR. How does that make the USA better than the rest of the world, exactly? Not trying to justify it, nor saying that the ends justify the means (especially since they don't even come close in this case), but how can you compare: a. Trying to stop spread of communism TO b. Hey, look how much money we can make if we sell guns to them! You can debate the correctness of communism as a philosophy. However, you can't deny that the US was ensuring that communism did not spread. This was one of the stated objectives of the Cold War. -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: OT: Ubuntu.org
cfk wrote: On Monday 27 December 2004 15:37, René Seindal wrote: Ron Johnson wrote (28-12-2004 00:25): You missed the smiley face. Still, bet you dime to a dollar that no company nowadays, especially a national or transnational, would name a product Apache. There's the Apache attack helicopter, which the producer probably sells to a few select friends of the USA. or the Chevrolet Apache truck, the Apache Warrior concept bike or the Apache's at Arcadia, CA hi-school (my alma mater). Does anyone remember a few years back (or maybe more than a few) when it was thought the Washington Redskins would have to change their name because of the political incorrectness of it? -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Alternate OSes based on Debian
Carl Fink wrote: On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 08:17:03PM -0200, Rogério Brito wrote: On Dec 26 2004, Mauro Darida wrote: The folks there should change the name: I would never use a thing named _ubuntu_. Btw, Hurd is a name as horrible as ubuntu. And what about using something called Debian? Is that a good name or a commercially feasible name? Sure, and versions named potato and slink and etch sure sound professional, don't they? What a weird criterion to use. Hell unix is a joke name, it's just old enough that people don't think about it much. IIRC, UNIX was named that way because of the system that Thompson and Ritchie got the idea from being called MULTICS. -Roberto signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?
Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: Well, Linux is certainly less user friendly (especially if you have difficulty with english as localization is quite poor) but if you take Not true. Linux is *quite* user friendly. It just happens to be very picky about who its friends are :-) -Roberto signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Debian sarge and production servers is it ready on 12/26/2004?
Mitchell Laks wrote: Tim said: If you think testing or unstable is suitable for production systems you are one of 1. an idiot 2. have very limited needs/no experience 3. talking out of your ass 4. have no concept of what it means to be responsible for others' work Even Sarge? I need something more up to date then woody, for my postgresql and need the integration that sarge provides, vs backports + woody. Is Sarge that dangerous on 12/26/2004? I want others opinions. I have 2 servers running sarge 24/7 right now (for last 3 weeks just installed). Mitchell I think the issue is that packages are not directly uploaded to testing. So it is possible to have version X of package A installed in testing. Tomorrow a security vulnerability in version X is announced. The day after, the package maintainer has uploaded an updated version to unstable. Now the waiting begins. Packages must be in unstable for 10 days with no critical or grave bugs (IIRC) before they transition to testing. That means that for a minimum of 10 days, you are running vulnerable software (thinkk phpBB). If within that 10 day window a newer version is uploaded to unstable, the clock restarts on the new version. If a serious or grave bug is filed, the package simply will not make it into testing. Likewise, if the package fails to build for *any* of the supported Debian architectures, it will not go into testing (unless it as architecture specific package, like a kernel). You could potentially be running insecure software for an indefinite period of time. This assumes that the maintainer actually keeps up with upstream development. Many actually do this, but there are maintainers that let their packages rot. For a stable release the maintainers are involved, but the ultimate responsibility rests with the Debian security team. Thus, updates will be made as quickly as feasible. You simply do not have this guarantee with unstable or testing (except when testing gets security team support in preparation for release). HTH, -Roberto signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?
Ed Sutherland wrote: Let me hasten to say this is not, as the subject line might seem to imply, a Linux-bashing question. I'm considering moving from Windows XP to some form of Linux, most likely debian. I'd like to know beforehand, what functionality I'll lose when moving from Windows to debian. For instance, point-and-click ease-of-use in installing applications. Another example: multimedia, such as playing MP3 audio files or downloading pictures from my digital camera. There are plenty of point-and-click tools. The main thing is that you need to educate yourself on the choices and then choose one. As far as multimedia, there are plenty of options. Personally I use xine and get the w32-codecs package from Marillat, but others prefer mplayer or any of the other number of available front ends. Downloading pictures from a digital camera is much easier than in Windows. To start with, there is no need to install extra software. You simply plug in your camera and if it is recognized (by a program like gPhoto), it will Just Work(TM) and you will be able to copy directly to and from the camera just as though it were any other mass storage device attached to your machine. As far as installing applications, with programs like synaptic (GUI point-and-click) and aptitude (console-based, but still very easy to use) it is simply a matter of choosing your new application, and telling it to go. The debian archive has more than 14,000 packages now. It will probably take you a while to discover what all of them are and you will likely only ever use a small fraction of them, but almost every available and commonly used free software program is already packaged for Debian. If the event that you find one that is not, or you have non-free program that you buy (like VMWare or Matlab), you can use the great program called checkinstall to manage your installation of programs that are not natively part of Debian. This allows you install programs and not worry about any difficulty in uninstalling them later. This is one program I sure wish I knew about when I was a newbie. Incidentally, if you are going to use Java (by installing a Sun or IBM JRE or JDK) then I highly recommend that you look at java-package. That is a neat little utility that will take the binary install package from Sun or IBM and Debian-ize it on the fly so that your Java installation can be managed like the rest of your Debian installed programs. I like the 'back-end' stability that Linux has, but question whether that stability will be negated by a more difficult user interface, or lack thereof. Windows users poo-poo Linux while fans of Linux complain Windows is straight from h*ll -- isn't there a middle-ground truth? Thanks. Much of it has to do with choice. That is Linux's greatest advantage over most any other OS. The variety of choice. Naturallym some people dislike it. Like when someone spends 30 years in prison, a return to free society seems to overwhelm them with choices at every turn. In Windows-land many things are forced on the user with no easy avenue for change. In Linux-land everything is your choice. If you are having trouble choosing, then Google or post here on the list and I'm sure that you will receive plenty of replies from people on all sides of any particular choice. Such as, which text editor is best (vim, of course) or which window manager is the slickest (naturally it is WindowMaker), and so on. I know I have sort of flooded your request with lots of info, but I hope you find it helpful. Regards, -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Sarge not showing all RAM
Darryl Clarke wrote: On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:54:56 +0100, Björn Abt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List, I have a HP DL360 G4 with 2GB ECC RAM and a P4-Xeon with 3 GHz. I installed Debian Sarge netinst on this machine and after examining the system i found out that top only shows 906MB RAM, even /proc/meminfo shows only 906MB. I tried this with both the 2.4 (kernel-image-2.4.27-1-386) and 2.6 (kernel-image-2.6.8-1-386) Kernels. After that I ran memtestx86 to see if I had malicious Memory, but it showed the full 2GB and it ran a whole day without showing any errors. I would suggest using kernel-image.2.4.27-1-686-smp or kernel-image-2.6.8-1-686-smp for your particular machine. It will enable the HyperThreading on your XEON processor, as well as support all of your RAM. Are the -smp kernels configured for 4GB? I was under the impression that none of the stock Debian kernels were configured for 4GB. -Roberto Sanchez -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Difference between Gnome and Debian menus. Why ?
Rogério Brito wrote: On Dec 22 2004, William Ballard wrote: You could file a bug and request an option to have Debian's menu be *the* Gnome menu. Now, that would be a good thing, IMO. Seeing the applications separately isn't that intuitive for the new users that I've been using as guinea pigs for deploying Open Source Software. Except that those of us that do not use GNOME (WindowMaker, in my case) Only see the apps from the Debian menu system. That is, unless I bother to build my own entire menu heirarchy. Personally, I think it is fine the way it is. Besides, pretty much every app that has built-in GNOME integration already puts itself into the GNOME menu. -Roberto signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Difference between Gnome and Debian menus. Why ?
Rogério Brito wrote: On Dec 22 2004, Benjamin A'Lee wrote: I think he means (optionally) replacing the GNOME menu with the Debian menu; that would save having two separate menu heirarchies. I meant exactly that. Anyone who doesn't use GNOME would be unaffected. Exactly, I personally use fluxbox (it's something that won't make my unfortunately old computer slow to a crawl). I would expect the integration not to interfere with the (already) nice way of maintaining menus for other desktop environments and window managers. I hope that it is clear now. All clear. Sorry for the misunderstanding. -Roberto signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: saslauthd? I can't seem to get it installed for postfix..
Charles Read wrote: OK, so I got the postfix-tls package, didn't know about that thanks! But still cant find saslauthd... don't I need to start it? Now an ehlo over telnet shows AUTH and STARTTLS like expected and I created /usr/local/lib/sasl/smtpd.conf with the line 'pwcheck_method: pam' (although shouldn't it be pwcheck_method:saslauthd ?) but when I try to login via an MUA it rejects my system user passwords can you please help me with what this means? Thanks! If you really desperately need saslauthd, you will need Postfix 2 and SASL2. You can get them for Woody from backports.org: deb http://www.backports.org/debian stable postfix cyrus-sasl2 deb-src http://www.backports.org/debian stable postfix cyrus-sasl2 As far as your user/pass from your MUA being rejected, make sure that you either have all the appropriate files (passwd/shadow/whatever) inside of Postfix's chroot environment, or that it is not running in a chroot. Regards, -Roberto signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: NeverEverNoSanity WebWorm???????
Simon Buchanan wrote: Hi, A little over an hour ago.. all our PHP and HTML files got changed to this on my little develpoment box: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN HTMLHEAD TITLEThis site is defaced!!!/TITLE /HEADBODY bgcolor=#00 text=#FF H1This site is defaced!!!/H1 HR ADDRESSbNeverEverNoSanity WebWorm generation 11./b/ADDRESS /BODY/HTML this is wierd, you cant ssh into the box. its got pureftpd/apache/php/mysql running on it. with only ftp/http ports open, all else firewalled out WTF!!!? I cant find any reference to this on google?? It means that you have been p0wned. Someone has gained root access to your box and obviously defaced your website. Since they had root access, there is no telling what other damage they may have done. You will need to wipe the machine clean and start with a fresh install. -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Low Power Servers
Cole S. Ashcraft wrote: Does anyone know of any low power usage servers (110W and below)? Cole I got one of these: http://www.idotpc.com/TheStore/Desktop/732Spec.asp?Product.id=732Cate.id=19 With a 600 MHz fanless CPU, 512 MB RAM and a 120 GB Maxtor Diamond Max it as ~$400. Admittedly, it can't handle lots of traffic, but I only run my personal domain on it and use it to let me ssh home from various places. It's also extremely quiet and draws less than 60 W (since that is what the DC converter it comes with maxes out at. -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: dist-upgrade to sarge
Jianan wrote: Hi, I was able to use the sarge cd #1 to do a dist-upgrade. I mounted the cd with mount /dev/hdc -t iso9660 /mnt Then I add a line to sources.list to read from /mnt The correct way to register a CDROM of packages is through the apt-cdrom command. -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: e-Sword under Linux?
Freddy Freeloader wrote: Roberto Sanchez wrote: I just submitted a feedback on the e-Sword website. I encouraged Rick to consider making the software available under an open source license and even offered my help to port the software. Hopefully this will pan out, as I also have been looking for a good Bible-study tool in Linux. -Roberto Wow. Excellent Roberto. It would be great to have a tool like e-Sword available in Linux. It's been a couple of days and I have not heard anything back from Rick. If you are interested in seeing this software one day made free and ported to Linux, I encourage you to visit the e-Sword feedback page and let Rick know how you feel: http://www.e-sword.net/feedback.html Maybe if he received feedback from more than one person it might cause him to consider it more seriously. Regards, -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Thunderbird style search in Firefox
Steve Lamb wrote: Michael Z Daryabeygi wrote: what is the select-all keystroke in... I guess gnome? don't tell me it doesn't exist. CNTL-A. Problem is that we're talking X style selects. Select something it is automatically coped into the CP buffer. So you can't do a Windows style CNTL-A, CNTL-C, click, CNTL-A, CNTL-V since the CNTL-V would yield the contents you're trying to get rid of. Firefox setting CNTL-U to upload manager was pretty dumb since CNTL-U is unix' default for clear field. :/ I seem to recall that older builds of Firefox and Thunderbird used the Unix-style (I believe the same shortcuts as used by GNU readline) when run in Linux. For example, if you started typing something in the address bar, a CTRL-U would clear what you had typed. If you were entering a serch query on Google's homepage, a CTRL-W would delete the previous word. I get really irritated now and then because I still forget sometimes. I will type in a 10-word Google query and hit CTRL-W to delete the last word I typed and wham. My tab is closed. If anyone knows how to get Firefox and Thunderbird to default to the old keyboard shortcuts, I would like to know about it. -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Sarge Betting Pool
Ron Johnson wrote: On Fri, 2004-12-17 at 15:32 -0600, Eric van der Paardt wrote: May 12th... its my bday! My birthday: 19-November. My goodness. If we have to wait until November, Lord help us all. :-) -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: yeah yeah it's OT as heck -- Re: OT anova.org: Cool Bibles and Porn [was Re: e-Sword under Linux?]
kurtz wrote: El jueves 16 de diciembre de 2004 a las 16:34:36, Roberto Sanchez escribe: Then on his list of top 10 tips for developers he seems to think that the only reason to write software is to sell it and make money. No concept of Free software. Let us not forget, of course, that it is perfectly posible and legal to sell Free Software and make money from it. Very true. However, from reading his list, it is quite clear he is discussing non-free software. I should have made that clear. -Roberto signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: apache apache-ssl
Matthew Joyce wrote: -Original Message- From: Roberto Sanchez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 17 December 2004 11:49 AM You can either use apache-ssl or apache + libapache-mod-ssl. These are two different things, but I have used both and they work. As a matter of preference, I would choose the mod-ssl route. That is primarily because then there is only one apache config to mess with. With apache and apache-ssl, there are two configs, two services, and so on. -Roberto Sanchez If I want HTTP and HTTPS have different host names, does this lend preference to either apache-ssl or the mod-ssl ? If you will be hosting from the same box, it does not matter. You configure apache as to what hostnames it will answer to. You also specify for each virtual host where the root of that host resides. You can also specify a port for each host. a.example.com:80 a.example.com:443- a is accessible via both http and https I think that it can also be done via Listen directives. b.example.com:80 - b is accessible only via HTTP c.example.com:443- c is accessible only via HTTPS HTH, -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: yeah yeah it's OT as heck -- Re: OT anova.org: Cool Bibles and Porn [was Re: e-Sword under Linux?]
William Ballard wrote: On Thu, Dec 16, 2004 at 02:02:39AM -0500, William Ballard wrote: http://www.anova.org/software/ This is just bizarre. Zaine Ridling, Ph.D. is listed as the editor in the PDF file. This same twit who put together this list of his favorite Closed Source applications and linked to the porn image, *on the same site.* Apparently he has requested and received permission to put give away a copyrighted work (the NRSV) and copyrighted commentaries (the Oxford annotations) -- for Free. The text appears to be legit. Who this Zaine Ridling is, and who the Access Foundation is and why their corporate sponsors seem to be hosting this site, is a big can of worms. Anyway, we'd better educate old Zaine about Debian. He loses 10 cool points for his stupid list of software. But the Bible's cool as all get out. I don't know what to make of the guy. On the one hand he seems clueless: NetCaptor is the original tabbed browser, ... On the surface, Avant Browser is similar to NetCaptor, but its standards compliance is consistently lacking; Avant doesn't share the same lean interface, instead it opts for bloat; nor does it share NetCaptor's speed and font rendering abilities. Puhleeze. Don't all IE skins use the IE rendering engine for pages and fonts? Don't they all look the same? But then: ... I recommend Mozilla and NetCaptor ... [Mozilla Firefox] gets better with every build, and once a user gets hooked, they usually think of Internet Explorer in the same league as Outlook Express Grade A crap. Further down on the page he talks about a program called NoClone which finds duplicate files. The screenshot is apparently one of him looking for dupe jpegs in his pr0n collection. He also seems to be a fan of Trillian, Thunderbird, Ad-Aware and Spybot Search and Destroy. He is also a fan of Word 2003 and a bunch of other text editors which couldn't hold a candle to vim. I don't want to start on his page of recommended image viewers/ editors. Take a look if you have any doubts. Then on his list of top 10 tips for developers he seems to think that the only reason to write software is to sell it and make money. No concept of Free software. -Roberto signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: apache apache-ssl
Matthew Joyce wrote: Dear debian-users, I have 2 woody boxes, one has apache+php and the other has apache-ssl+php. Physical space is tight, and neither of these boxes are ever very busy, I'd like to combine them. Are there any problem with these apps co-existing ? Do they need to have the same hostname ? Certificates aside, are there any pitfalls I should watch for ? thanks You can either use apache-ssl or apache + libapache-mod-ssl. These are two different things, but I have used both and they work. As a matter of preference, I would choose the mod-ssl route. That is primarily because then there is only one apache config to mess with. With apache and apache-ssl, there are two configs, two services, and so on. -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: acroread key bindings do not work.
Francois Cerbelle wrote: Le Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 04:52:13PM +0100, Francisco Borges ecrit : » On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 09:47PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: Francisco Borges wrote: Acroread control based key bindings (e.g. C-q or C-w) do not work on my sarge box. Do you happen to have NumLock on? If so, try turning it off and see if that fixes it. That indeed fixed it. Thank you very much for the help! ---end quoted text / fin de citation--- If you use fvwm as window manager, just add the following line in the config file : IgnoreModifier L25 I use it, but I can not help you for other WM. Fanfan Just out of curiousity. Anyone know how to make this work for WindowMaker (or generically through X)? -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Limiting Disck Cache
Ron Johnson wrote: Operating on huge files will always cause the kind of problems you describe. Why? Because when you run the cp (or dd or what- ever) command, the OS takes and starts loading that file into cache, while writing it out to the destination. So what? The Last In, First Out algorithm used to determine what stays in RAM and what goes in swap sees this brand new file being used right *now*, and sees that Tomcat and Eclipse are *not* being used now. So, they get pushed aside, to make room for the file that *is* being used now. Actually, the algorithm used most commonly now is Least Recently Used. There is a distinction in that newer memory pages may get swapped out if it has been longer since they were accessed. Unfortunately, that one file takes up all of cache. So, the next time that you want to use Mozilla or Eclipse or whatever, it has to be taken back out of swap, and put back in RAM. In this case, though, the difference is not apparent. The result is still as you describe. -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Hardware hassles: Linux vs. Windows
Robert Parker wrote: On Thursday 16 December 2004 04:28, Christian Convey wrote: But to be fair, that hasn't been my experience with Windows XP at all. So I'm doubtful that the users' simplicity offered by Windows has crashiness as a necessary consequence. To be equally fair, Windows XP is a lot more difficult to install on modern hardware than just about any recent version of Linux. I make that statement based on several dual boot installations over the last 2 years. And of course your non-techie Windows user just comes with intuitive knowledge of how to protect his installation from the internet by installing virus scanners, firewalls, and keeping his virus signatures up to date? About the only thing Windows really has over Linux when you take the respective hassles into account is that knowledge of Windows is spread wider. That is changing. Games. Most games are still written for Windows. It is changing somewhat now (with UT, NWN and others being made for Linux as well). But, it will still be a long time in coming before that aspect changes. -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: What will happens when sarge becomes stable?
feanor7 wrote: Hi, I have some Debian Woody servers running in production environment. All is going fine and I'm very happy with Debian. I'm following the sarge progress and that is the reason of my question. Actually my servers have cron-apt installed and every night they do apt-get update. At morning I check the possible changes and decide which packages should be upgraded. Most of time I do a apt-get dist-upgrade and life continues. Same here. My /etc/apt/sources.list points to stable. A few months ago I changed all occurrences of stable to woody. That way I would not be caught by surprise. But when the great day arrives, and sarge becomes stable, what will happens when apt-get dist-upgrade runs? I'm afraid that all systems will be forced to a massive software upgrade (kernel-image, mysql, exim ...) and some incompatible configuration could break my applications. If you have changed your sources to point to woody then nothing will happen. You can change them to sarge at your leisure. If they still point to stable, then you will get all the new packages. The only mistake in your thinking is with regard to kernel-image. IIRC, that is not upgraded to a different version unless you explicitly tell it to. I.e., if you have kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686. You won't get a 2.4.27 kernel, unless you tell it to install that version. Naturally, updates your kernel will still be installed for security patches. Additionally, the Debian security will continue security support for Woody for 6 to 12 months after the release of Sarge. There is any suggestion or documention to follow in that case? Not sure about specific documentation regarding the dist-upgrade, but rest assured that the release team is hard work making certain that the dist-upgrade process goes as smoothly as possible for everyone. I never saw a debian branch change, so I don't know what expect. Neither have I, but I am anxiously lookig forward to it. Thanks for help! feanor7 -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
