Re: Replying to list
Let's kick it up a notch. cmr Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: Juha Tuuna wrote: On Wednesday, 21. June 2006 15:55, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: If it's not an FAQ, why doesn't this list use the "Reply-to" field in the address headers? A couple of times recently I've hit Reply and sent a response to the originator, rather than the list - for which I apologise. All other - non-Debian - lists to which I subscribe use this field and it enables one to concentrate on the message, rather than the postman:-) Peter HB I'd use .procmailrc to fix things: :0 * (^To|^Cc):[EMAIL PROTECTED] | formail -a "Reply-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org" That should do pretty much what you wished for. I didn't wish for it: I asked a question and seem to have started WW3:-) NB The headers in my original post show that I'm still a prisoner of Windows and rc scripts are not an option. If I ever get my printers working under Debian then I'll consider the final switch. Peter HB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]
Monique Y. Mudama wrote: > I want to kill off this whole screwed up social security system, > and if that means I pay SS for my parents, then don't get any when I > retire, I'm honestly okay with that. Good. 'Cause that's how it's gonna be. cmr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GNOME V. KDE (was Re: New user need some help
Magnus Therning wrote: > - Nautilus, and yes, I use the spatial layout which probably means I'm >in minority among Gnomistas. I too prefer the spatial Nautilus. With my left hand riding the shift key and right hand on the mouse, it's as fast as using the shell for many common tasks. cmr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Canon Ixus 55 on GNU/Linux?
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Adam Funk wrote: >> On 2006-04-28, Dmitri Minaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Recent Canons usually use a special protocol, called PTP (picture >>> transfer protocol) to communicate with a computer. AFAIK, this is also >>> true for Ixus 55. Install gphoto2 to download pictures from your >>> camera. >> Interesting. Does gphoto2 not mount the camera on the filesystem? > It does not. > On my Canon A410: > > /home/hugoFri Apr 28-09:02:08HDA7# gphoto2 --auto-detect > Model Port > -- > USB PTP Class Camera usb: > USB PTP Class Camera usb:001,005 > > and gphoto2 -P uploads the jpegs and avi's. FWIW, the gphoto project also offers a tool called gphotofs, which aims to allow any camera supported by libgphoto2 to be mounted into the filesystem using FUSE (I have not been able to use it personally with my Canon A610). gtkam and gthumb both provide graphic front-ends to gphoto2. cmr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GNOME V. KDE (was Re: New user need some help
Mike McCarty wrote: > Umm, on my system, I do the same thing, using GNOME. > Is K3b part of KDE? I wasn't aware of that. If so, then how come I > can use it with GNOME? I thought KDE and GNOME were simple managers > which can invoke any number of applications. > > I've never used the GNOME CDCREATOR. > indeed. there is also gnomebaker, which is a lot like k3b. cmr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Social Contract
Mike McCarty wrote: > Greg Folkert wrote: >> On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 14:55 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: >> >>> Steve Lamb wrote: >>> Mike McCarty wrote: > Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > > >> I once couldn't read or view my old work after switching employer, >> because I suddenly didn't have a licence for a certain program any >> more and all work that was done with that program was more or >> less lost. > Umm, you never did have that license, then, and you used the software > in an unauthorized manner. In short, you used a pirate copy. Uh, no Mike, he was behind door number 3. Legally using his employer's license while employed and unable to do so once no longer employed with that individual/company. >>> >>> I understand the situation completely. You apparently do not. >>> >>> If he created (as he said) his *own* files using those tools, >>> and not those of his employer, then he used a pirate copy. >>> >>> I am morally certain that the EULA did not include a clause like >>> "You are permitted to let other people who do not have a license >>> use this software, for their own purposes, so long as you do not >>> charge them, and they also use this software for you for your own >>> purposes." >>> >>> See my other message. >> >> >> Okay, one question then... This is the same software and EULA, Libraries >> and Internet Cafes use then for Microsoft Word and such? > > Actually, I don't know. I'm presuming on the kind of EULA which > is involved. > >> Have you ever used this software at a library or internet Cafe... or for >> that matter, have you ever stayed at a Hotel that had computers in the >> room and had Software installed on them to use? > > No. I don't do that. > >> I am going to have to report this piracy to Microsoft. > > By all means, report me. I have no documents on any of my machines > created by any MicroSoft products for which I do not have a license. > >> Actually, Microsoft does the Licensing via per machine nowaday. So in >> essence you are saying that employers should have ALL computers and >> tools (out in the shop) and trucks and other such things 100% locked up >> all the time. >> >> Wow, you do have a real clear grasp on Life. > > I have a clear grasp of what is licensed and what is not. If a > company pays for a license to use software for its own use, > and someone uses it for other use, then he has no gripe if he > can't take/use the files he creates as far as I can see. > > To put it another way, the acts he committed (if they are as > he described) could get him prosecuted if he worked for, say, > a school system. It's called "misappropriation", and it's a > crime. In this case, since it's just a corporation (AFAIK) > then it is just a tort. > > Mike I'm really glad we are having this astoundingly mind-numbing, useless argument about who can use what software for what purpose on what machine. This waste of electrons is one of the things I find refreshing about the Debian Social Contract. There's no need to have these idiotic exchanges about the software it covers. cmr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is the status of Xorg 7.0?
Jan Brons wrote: > I am wondering if the Xorg 7.0 update problems are solved. I am using > Sid AMD64 and just want to do a apt-update but are mainly waiting for > most of the Xorg problems are solved. If I do an update I see for > example that xserver-common 6.9 xfree86-common and xprint are going > to be removed. Can't find this to be an safe option! I am no Xorg > expert, so can anyone give me a clue? > I updated one system today and it was kind of messy, but everything worked out eventually. I had to do 'apt-get -f install' and 'dpkg --configure -a' a few times because of missing or unconfigurable packages, but in the end 'apt-get dist-upgrade' succeeded and pulled in what it needed. I had a foreign .deb package of Opera installed, as well as Xnest from main, and those packages left files in /usr/X11R6/bin; some package during the upgrade insisted that that directory had to be empty, so I had to purge those packages and start the dist-upgrade again. I moved /etc/X11/xorg.conf out of the way, and then did 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg xserver-xorg core' to write a new configuration. On this system I use the 'nv' driver and the configuration generated by debconf worked flawlessly. I had to do 'apt-get --reinstall install xfonts-base xfs' as others have noted, although Xorg did start without errors before I'd done that (xterm and xfontsel were crashing beforehand). I'd say that this is a good time to update if you've been waiting. cmr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Social Contract WAS: distributions: UBUNTU vs DEBIAN
Mike McCarty wrote: > I don't want to "change the social order" or "be > the downfall of capitalism", or "kill MicroSoft" or any of > the other "social goals" so often associated with Linux. It sounds like you have gravely misunderstood the debian social contract, or you have not read it. cmr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Playing midi?
Wulfy wrote: > Hmm... I know a little about midi, but not much. Since I'm able to > play it with some application, I should think it would be possible > with any... I have the same problem with the Control Centre... I've > read cryptic mentions of "sound fonts" but have never been able to > find any to try... that may be why I can't make it work. Some (wavetable-based) onboard synthesizers (such as those found on EMU10K1 cards) need to be loaded with waveform packages before they will work. The awesfx package contains the tools needed to do this. You will also need a soundfont file to load with these tools. "2mbgmgs.sf2" and "8mbgmgs.sf2" should be productive Google queries. cmr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: distributions: UBUNTU vs DEBIAN
Steve Lamb wrote: > A little more pragmatism and a little less haughty zealotry. > so, just switch to mepis and unsubscribe from debian-user already. your show has gotten tiresome. cmr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Comparison of filesystems
Rick Friedman wrote: > Currently, I run Debian Sid with two different partitions: / & /home. Each > partition is an ext3 filesystem. I am thinking of changing filesystems (just > to satisfy my curiosity). My system is a typical home user's system. > > I would like to hear from others their opinions about differing filesystems > such as: ext3, Reiserfs, XFS, JFS, etc. > You may be interested in this post: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/388 cmr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: distributions: UBUNTU vs DEBIAN
Attila Horvath wrote: What is the difference between UBUNTU and DEBIAN installations/distributions? Debian is a free operating system almost always used with the Linux kernel, available on x86, m68k, sparc, alpha, ppc, arm, mips, hppa, ia64, s390, and (in development) amd64 and ppc64 hardware architectures. There are ports in a variety of developmental phases providing Debian for the FreeBSD, NetBSD, GNU/Hurd, and Solaris kernels. Its focus is on providing 1) a "universal" operating system, that is, one suited to the widest possible variety of applications, and 2) a system composed entirely of free (libre) software, and 3) a stable and dependable computing environment. At any given point in time, there are three flavors of Debian available: the 'stable' release, which receives only security updates and is the most rigorously tested; 'testing', which will become the next stable release after QA and bugfixes; and 'unstable' which contains the newest packages and changes frequently. Packages move from the unstable area into testing after a QA process and a waiting period. Ubuntu is a Linux distribution managed by Canonical Inc. It is currently available for three processor architectures (x86, amd64, ppc). Ubuntu is known for shipping very recent versions of GNOME as well as their focus on easy installation and use. You will probably get a better description from Ubuntu users. I see where UBUNTU is derived from DEBIAN. How much of DEBIAN does UBUNTU incorporate or does it matter since UBUNTU accesses DEBIAN's repositories for package updates? Ubuntu uses Debian's software packaging technology, the Advanced Packaging Tool (APT). Their installation system is also (or at least was at one time) derived from Debian's installer. The two distributions maintain their own separate software repositories. Mixing packages from the two distributions is not advisable and would have unpredictable (and almost certainly undesirable) effects. cmr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cameras.
Mitja Podreka wrote: > I have long and pleasing experience with Canon PowerShot A60/70/80 > series and all I can say that they are very good cameras, with lots of > functions and functionalities. The good point of Canon is that they > know how to make high-end professional cameras and they are using > their knowledge also in the compact cameras. This is probably true > also for Nikon cameras, but I have no experiences with their digital > models. Lately I've started to use PowerShot G6. Excelent, top-end > compact camera, but it might just be outside your price range. Agreed. I have a Canon PowerShot A610 and it's a great camera for my needs (which are a combination of auto-exposed snapshots and manual exposures). It worked immediately with gphoto2 (and gthumb and gtkam), although not yet with f-spot. My AT-1, though, still won't work with Debian. I can't seem to find a USB port on it anywhere... cmr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA RAID 0 in Debian
Michael Schurter wrote: > Michael Schurter wrote: >> I've never worked with SATA RAID's in Debian (or Linux in general), >> so I'm sorry if this is a stupid question. > > Let me rephrase: how do I setup SATA RAID 0 in Debian? Were these set up using a hardware RAID controller? You may need to plug them into a controller of the exact same model to get to the data. The on-disk format is frequently not interchangeable from one RAID controller to the next. I suppose you could attempt to set up a Linux software RAID and present these drives to it. I wouldn't count on it working, though. The Software RAID Howto is a good place to start: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html cmr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color? IS THEREA MODERATOR FOR THIS LIST???
Kent West wrote: > It's a person who sends a reply to email by putting their response at the top > of the material to which they're responding. Shouldn't that be "responce" ? cmr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gpodder 0.7
j j wrote: > I am getting this error durring installation/upgrade: > > dpkg: error processing gpodder_0.7-2_all.deb (--install): > trying to overwrite > `/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gpodder/SimpleGladeApp.py ', which is also > in package python2.3-gpodder gpodder does not appear to be a part of Debian; you are using packages from the gpodder site, correct? You should inform them about the packaging problem. In the meantime, "dpkg -i --force-overwrite gpodder_0.7-2_all.deb" should successfully install the package. This will overwrite the copy of SimpleGladeApp.py from the python2.3-gpodder package with the file from the gpodder package. cmr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?
Hodgins Family wrote: > Note - Originally the spelling of 'colour' without a U was a > sanctioned change of the Spelling Reformist Movement, which was not > exculsively accepted by Americans, but was much more popular in the US > than it was in England. Henceforth, when the movement died out, its > changes remained in US English but not in UK English. Not all American > English spellings are from these changes, 'aluminum' for example, was > introduced by Noah Webster. Nowadays, 'color' is a US English spelling. The thirteenth element seems to be the catalyst for a great deal of spelling disinformation. It is well-documented that Humphry Davy's original proposed name for the element was "alumium", and that he later settled on "aluminum" in order to maintain consistency with the name of the already-known compound alumina. The shift to "aluminium" only came about because an anonymous writer proposed that the lengthier spelling had a more "classical" sound. One may conclude that the names for platinum, tantalum, and molybdenum were not also revised at this time due to those metals' inherent lack of classicity. Installing both text/wamerican-huge and text/wbritish-huge should shield the casual user against the effects of this issue. cmr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OS and file system encryption
Jochen Schulz wrote: > Jochen Schulz: > >> Tigran Varosyan: >> >>> I have read the Linux has software available that can encrypt the OS and the >>> file system to a degree that even with physical access to the HD, the data >>> cannot be extracted. I was told that this slows the systems down quite a bit >>> but that is it very functional. This sounds like interesting technology and >>> I would like to experiment with it. >> I didn't try it myself, but I think the most popular solution is >> dmcrypt, which allows you to encrypt everything, even your root and swap >> partition. > To be precise, the package you are probably looking for is cryptsetup, > which is a set of scripts which make it easy to set up dm-crypt. My home desktop system has almost all encrypted filesystems (/, /home, swap, and an external usb drive); the only unencrypted partition is a small /boot partition containing the kernels and initial ramdisks needed to boot the system. I used the cryptsetup package to configure the encrypted disks, mostly following the directions in /usr/share/doc/cryptsetup/CryptoRoot.HowTo. I would not recommend this procedure to someone without at least a year or two of experience administering Debian systems. Additionally, I would suggest becoming familiar with dm-crypt itself, and with the general ideas behind encrypted block devices before proceeding. As for the speed... in all cases, I am using twofish with a 256-bit key, via the dm-crypt system. The slowdown is definitely measurable, but it is not as large as one might expect: > debian:/home/cmr# hdparm -t /dev/hde1 > > /dev/hde1: > Timing buffered disk reads: 174 MB in 3.01 seconds = 57.76 MB/sec > > debian:/home/cmr# hdparm -t /dev/mapper/home > > /dev/mapper/home: > Timing buffered disk reads: 110 MB in 3.06 seconds = 35.91 MB/sec (On my system, /dev/hde is a two-disk hardware RAID 1 of ATA disks (not SATA)) This is something you would probably want to do as part of the initial installation of the system. Because the howto included with cryptsetup is based on installing the base system and then copying it to another partition, you'll need to think carefully about your partitioning. My solution was to set aside a partition that I would later use as swap, and install that as the root filesystem. Then, once I had configured all the encrypted devices and copied the root filesystem over, I wiped the old (unencrypted) root filesystem and designated it as a swap partition. In my experience, yaird worked best for generating the initial ramdisks, and linux-image-2.6.13-1-k8-amd64 was the first Debian kernel that I got working with this setup. It's worked fine for me up through 2.6.16. Another thing to consider carefully is your recovery environment. A lot of folks were hit by a bug in a particular version of yaird that generated kernels that would not boot for many systems; make sure you have a liveCD that will support dm-crypt, any ciphers you choose, and is capable of executing your installed binaries inside a chroot (so you can regenerate the initrd's when they break). It's annoying enough to have to recover a system from a LiveCD; you don't want to be tearing your hair out over encryption at the same time :-) Hope this helps -- best of luck. cmr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why should "/boot" be on a separate partition?
Masatran (Deepak), R. wrote: > Why should "/boot" be on a separate partition (rather than on the "/" > partition)? > > I have installed Debian 3.1 with a separate "/boot" partition. I intend > installing Ubuntu 5.10 . Should I share the "/boot" partition between Debian > and Ubuntu? > There are a lot of reasons why you might want /boot on a separate partition. For example, it's the only way to go if you want to have an encrypted root filesystem. cmr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multi server package management
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Simon wrote: >> Hi There, We are gathering quite a few debian servers now and have >> just started testing a debian xen server, thus giving us more debian >> servers :). Is there anything out there to manage the packages on all >> these servers? (kind of like how redhat does it online). A nice >> web-based tool would be good! I suppose i would want: >> >> 1stly: Central reporting for all servers (updates etc) > 1. cron-apt >> 2ndly: A way to then apply those updates > 2. cron-apt >> With a bit of thought, i could get something up and running myself i >> supose, but i just wondered if there is anything already before i do. > > This assumes a generally heterogenous package set. For a homogeneous > environment, I would look at systemimager. I concur -- cron-apt has been a great help in keeping our sarge systems up-to-date. One thing I've been wanting personally, though, is a system more suitable for testing and unstable -- something that would apply any updates it could without requiring interaction from the user, but that could present debconf questions in an asynchronous manner, perhaps through a web application. I suppose I might just have to come up with something myself, when I can find the time :) cmr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PUHHLLLEEEEZZZE LOOK AT THESE RETARDED NAMES OF EXE's YOU DEBIANPACKAGEDUDES
Kent West wrote: > Hmm: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk:> aptitude show crossfire > E: Unable to locate package crossfire > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk:> aptitude show GSnes9x > E: Unable to locate package GSnes9x > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk:> aptitude show gtkBitchX > E: Unable to locate package gtkBitchX > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk:> aptitude show gtkBitchX-1.1-final > E: Unable to locate package gtkBitchX-1.1-final In the case of gsnes9x, the package name is gsnes9x. In the case of gtkBitchX, the package name is bitchx-gtk. There are numerous packages called crossfire-*. In addition to doing dpkg -L , it might also be helpful to examine the contents of /usr/share/doc/ . cmr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: disableing gnome destop background?
Britton Kerin wrote: > I would like to be able to display pictures for my desktop background, > and change them every so often. It seems that gnome doesn't do this, > so I though I'd just do it from a script with xsetbg, but I think for > this to work I need to somehow tell gnome to not do anything to the > X root window. I couldn't figure out how to do this, can anyone tell > me? Nautilus (the GNOME file manager) is responsible for drawing the desktop. If you definitely want to use xsetbg, you'll need to add the --no-desktop option when nautilus is started; you can do this using gnome-session-properties. One possible drawback of this method is that desktop icons will not be drawn. You can set the desktop background from a script, though, without disabling Nautilus' drawing the desktop, by using gconftool-2: gconftool-2 --type string --set \ /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename \ One drawback of this method is that it seems to have some sort of flaky relationship with ~/.gnome2/backgrounds.xml. YMMV, HTH cmr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No DVD download
Wackojacko wrote: > Frank Lanitz wrote: >> Am Freitag 07 April 2006 16:01 schrieb steef: >>> Steve McIntyre wrote: http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#small-dvd >>> the content of this link is in dutch! my native tongue. >> >> Well, I don't think so. I've got this page in german ;) >> Greetings, Frank > > In English here !! :) No, captain -- it was Swahili! cmr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dune2 on debian
Frank Lanitz wrote: > Am Freitag 07 April 2006 10:01 schrieb Lubos Vrbka: >> is there any way how to play good old dune2 (by westwood) and maybe >> other dos games on debian? > > There is a big number of software, that emulates DOS or other "former" > systems. Maybe you look at dosemu or dosbox. But which one ist better, I > realy can't say, because I don't have any usage for them at this point I'm not familiar with Dune 2, so I can't recommend one specifically. Dosemu requires some version of DOS to be present (e.g. MS-DOS, DR-DOS, or FreeDOS) and is pretty flexible -- it can even be used to run DOS BBS doors over stdio. For "graphic-intensive" DOS games, Dosbox tends to be the better choice. Dosbox also does not require any actual DOS command interpreter, as it provides its own. With some tuning, I've gotten games based on the original Doom engine to run on my Athlon 64 3000+ system. There are other options, such as qemu, which may help if you run into compatibility problems. In this case you would have to install DOS on a virtual machine and then run software from within that. cmr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: resizing swap partition
Ron Johnson wrote: > If you are using a 2.6 kernel, then you can also use a swap *file*. > "man mkswap" tells you how to set it up. Oh! I'd forgotten about that. But I didn't know that was new with 2.6. I could swear I've used a swap file on 2.4. Maybe I'm imagining it, though. cmr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: resizing swap partition
One system was swapping quite frequently when it was equipped with 1GB of memory. I use it to run Azureus as well as a variety of first-person shooters, so demands on memory are sometimes quite high. Unfortunately I don't have any information on how much swap was typically used in the previous configuration. The other machine is a MythTV frontend/backend; it received a memory upgrade simply because I now had spare memory on hand. I'm not so concerned with this one, because its memory usage is pretty low anyway. I am pretty sure that the swap partitions are sufficient for as much as I'd want to run on these systems. I guess I'll leave well enough alone :-) cmr Brian Schrock wrote: > On Tuesday 04 April 2006 14:13, Chris Roddy wrote: >> Resizing the data partitions on these systems to make room for a larger >> swap space would present only a minor inconvenience, but is it even >> worth that effort? If there's no reason to prefer a 4GB swap partition >> over a 2GB partition for a system with 2GB of physical memory, then I'd >> just as soon leave things as they are. > > > > *while caressing my beard* > > Were you swapping often before the memory upgrade, and how much swap was > used, > if an when it did swap? The answer to that question will lead to an answer to > your question. > > *respectfuly bows* > > > > Next! > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
resizing swap partition
I've recently doubled the memory in two of my systems. Each one previously had a swap partition configured that was, in accordance with a "rule of thumb" whose origins I've forgotten, exactly two times the size of the physical memory in the system. Resizing the data partitions on these systems to make room for a larger swap space would present only a minor inconvenience, but is it even worth that effort? If there's no reason to prefer a 4GB swap partition over a 2GB partition for a system with 2GB of physical memory, then I'd just as soon leave things as they are. Thoughts? cmr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netlimiter liike tool
indeed you can. trickle has several options for adjusting the detection window and smoothing behavior. honestly it seems to me that this train-wreck has resulted from a poorly phrased question. "is there a netlimiter-like tool in debian" is already proposing the solution. it seems to me that the question here is "how can i adjust network bandwidth consumption to achieve foo?" for me it was qos. now i've got my line saturated with bt traffic and external services cruise along responsively. ymmv. cmr anoop aryal wrote: > On Wednesday 22 March 2006 02:32 pm, Steve Lamb wrote: >> Andreas Rippl wrote: >>> Package: trickle >> First off it is really poor considering it needs to be run once per >> application. This would require mass editing of init.d scripts. Secondly >> trickle is very poor at what it does. > >> If you tell it to limit something to >> 80kps and you have a 160kps line it will let that application burst to >> 160kps for 1/2 second then cut it off completely for 1/2 second. > > can you define a finer grained timeslicing in trickle? > >> Not >> exactly a trickle, more like a bipolar rainstorm. ;) > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
environment for viewing/creating ANSI art?
Hi -- I would like to set up an environment on my Debian system that is suitable for viewing and creating ANSI art, specifically the sort that was popular on bulletin board systems in the 90's. Based on what I could find on Google, these are usually intended for the so-called "extended ASCII" 8-bit character set that was used on IBM PC's and compatible systems running DOS. (code page 437? please correct me if I am wrong). The tetradraw package in the editors section appears very promising. I've installed it, but I've run into problems with things such as line-drawing and box characters appearing garbled. I've tried a variety of X terminal programs (e.g., gnome-terminal, konsole, xterm, rxvt) with a variety of font faces; some of them presented a variety of character encoding options and I've tried many of those as well. I've read some messages stating that tetradraw runs best on the Linux console; I've tried using both framebuffers and the standard console with even more disappointing results ("bright" colors not displayed at all, and some characters omitted entirely). The closest I've been able to come is using the "Andale Mono" font face from the msttcorefonts package, with either gnome-terminal or konsole. The tetraview tool will display most of the ANSI art files I can find as expected, but running tetradraw still displays with accented letters and empty rectangles where I would expect box-drawing characters and so forth. I haven't seen any problem with the escape sequences for character color or cursor positioning, so I am led to believe that this is simply a matter of finding the right combination of locale, character encoding, and terminal or console font. If anyone has recommendations for configuration (or other software to look into) I would be very grateful. Thanks cmr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax
Don Werve wrote: Actually, English grammar is a nightmare to behold; there is no consistent method of handling verb conjugations, and the structure of a sentence is integral to its meaning; you can't just randomly move words around in an English sentence and expect things to work. The way a computer works at the low level (e.g., assembler and/or machine code) is actually much more similar to Japanese, where you have an action and the associate data stapled together in pairs, much like Japanese words are (nominally) paired with particles. The only reason that English-esque languages are prevalent is that, in the early days, most of the programmers were native English speakers, and as such, wrote tools and compilers that best fit their native linguistic models. If computerdom had started in Germany, then I'd wager that we'd see more languages which used a German grammatic style. really, the syntax of most programming languages is not very much like english -- english would have us putting the block before the for() or if() :-) ... the lexicon, of course, is another story. but the (generally) one-to-one correspondence between a keyword and its sense/meaning avoids a lot of the obfuscation of english. one would think it should be possible, then to merely translate keywords from one natural language into another before compiling... perhaps? I would suggest that english syntax is surprisingly regular (and not all that different from, say, Icelandic). if you believe chomsky :-) specifier? modifier? head+ complement* modifier? nest as desired. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
woody, alsa 0.9.6: snd_ctl_open fails?
I'm trying (without success) to get ALSA version 0.9.6 to work in woody using kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4. I built alsa-driver and alsa-lib from the sources provided by alsa-project.org; I built them against the kernel-headers-bf2.4 package. both compiled and installed without complaint. I am using an SB Live (emu10k1). I have done an apt-get dist-upgrade. when running alsamixer after inserting the modules, I get this error (it is the only output): alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory of course, no other apps can access the mixer or the card's input/output. it seems like this should be working... I've tried moving the card around, but no luck. I am reasonably sure this is not a hardware problem, as OSS drivers work fine. also, I sense that this is not a problem with the snd-emu10k1 driver itself: I swapped the card out for my older ens1371 card, set the proper module options for that card, modprobe'd it with no errors, and got the same error from alsamixer. OSS also works fine for the 1371 card. I have my .asoundrc's set properly, and I put the module configuration in /etc/modutils/alsa (as opposed to editing modules.conf directly) and ran update-modules. modules.conf looks fine. I also compiled a 2.4.22 kernel, built the modules against that, and got the same result. any ideas? really, I would be using CVS alsa right now, but I figured I would try with a release first... cr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java broken with latest updates...
Today it's working, my update+upgrade got me 6 updated packages and the problem seems to have been fixed.. debconf, modutils and shellutils seem to be the only packages of any importance with this lot (sorry, don't remember what the other 3 were). -- Roddy On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, Roddy wrote: => => I'm not on this list so I would appreciate a CC at least. => => I did an apt-get update;apt-get upgrade today and now my JDK won't work. => It seems that neither the blackdown.org JDK1.2 port nor the IBM JDK1.1.8 => port will work. => The blackdown compiler gives me: => Error: can't find libjava.so => While the IBM compiler gives me the usage of the compiler no matter what => I do. => The blackdown VM gives the same error as the compiler bu the IBM VM seems => to work.. => => Anyone got any ideas? Maybe a library update thats broken something? => Thanks for your help, => -- Roddy => => (I'm using potato btw and I use a local mirror but have tried the latest => updates on ftp.debian.org as well and it's still broken) => => --- => Roddy Vagg, Computer Guy, Twynam/Beef CRC, UNE Ph: (+61)267733978 => --- => => +** Best Viewed Using [INLINE] **+ => => --- Roddy Vagg, Computer Guy, Twynam/Beef CRC, UNE Ph: (+61)267733978 --- +** Best Viewed Using [INLINE] **+
Java broken with latest updates...
I'm not on this list so I would appreciate a CC at least. I did an apt-get update;apt-get upgrade today and now my JDK won't work. It seems that neither the blackdown.org JDK1.2 port nor the IBM JDK1.1.8 port will work. The blackdown compiler gives me: Error: can't find libjava.so While the IBM compiler gives me the usage of the compiler no matter what I do. The blackdown VM gives the same error as the compiler bu the IBM VM seems to work.. Anyone got any ideas? Maybe a library update thats broken something? Thanks for your help, -- Roddy (I'm using potato btw and I use a local mirror but have tried the latest updates on ftp.debian.org as well and it's still broken) --- Roddy Vagg, Computer Guy, Twynam/Beef CRC, UNE Ph: (+61)267733978 --- +** Best Viewed Using [INLINE] **+