Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-21 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese

On 9/21/12 3:06 PM, Wayne Topa wrote:
If one cannot respond with civility and respect, one shouldn't 
respond at all.


How would that help OSS?



I wasn't aware I had an obligation to help OSS in order to use it. The 
list exists to help people use the software, and not primarily to help 
the software use people.



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Re: Filezilla a security risk

2012-06-29 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese

On 6/29/12 6:56 AM, Camaleón wrote:
Should my Debian system becomes cracked or infected by any kind of 
treat I would worry more about my usual files and not the settings for 
Filezilla. I mean, nothing new here, security is a multi-edged sword.



Really? I'm far more concerned about my credentials for foreign sites 
than I am for any other information I store locally.



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Re: Filezilla a security risk

2012-06-29 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
My root credentials for my local machine aren't stored in plaintext. And if the 
local machine is compromised, the critical threat is its use as a zombie, not 
any info that's on it. There simply isn't any confidential data. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 29, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:00:33 -0700, Roger B.A. Klorese wrote:
 
 On 6/29/12 6:56 AM, Camaleón wrote:
 Should my Debian system becomes cracked or infected by any kind of
 treat I would worry more about my usual files and not the settings for
 Filezilla. I mean, nothing new here, security is a multi-edged sword.
 
 
 Really? I'm far more concerned about my credentials for foreign sites
 than I am for any other information I store locally.
 
 Yes, really.
 
 The information I can store in my systems are by far more important than 
 the passwords for my FTP sites. In the end, it only affects the FTP 
 credentials, nor databases, nor root accounts... because you aren't login 
 as root for your FTP sessions, right? ;-)
 
 Greetings,
 
 -- 
 Camaleón
 
 
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Re: posting (was: Threading)

2011-06-22 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
On Jun 22, 2011, at 7:01 AM, lee wrote:

 Hm, I wonder why anyone is going to the lengths of replying to digest
 messages rather than just subscribing to the list ...


So they don't need to get hundreds of separate messages?!  Most people don't 
treat a digest as separate from a list, just an alternate subscription format. 

It's incumbent on those who own the technology to evolve digests so it's easier 
to reply to individual posts, not on readers to jump through hoops to reply.

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Re: Q: List Policy

2008-11-16 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese

François Cerbelle wrote:
A list should *NEVER* alter the contents of a message and  the 
reply-to field *DOES BELONGS TO THE CONTENTS* of the message.


What happens if one of the subscribers does want to have a reply on a 
specific address ? It is its right and the ListMaster do not have to 
impose its own choice here.



It's the right of the list-owner to set reply policy.  If the list's 
policy is that replies must be to the list - as many owners of 
community-style lists require - the subscriber can either go along with 
it or go away.



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Re: How to use Mutt?

2008-01-19 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese

Pantor wrote:

---Mutt: (no mailbox) [Msgs:0]---(date/date)-%gt;-(all)---
No mailbox is open.

Why it is?






Because you have it configured to look for mail in a different place 
from where you have your MTA configured to put incoming mail.


Fix it.


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Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-25 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese

Kent West wrote:
Like he said, he's not complaining, or asking for help, or asking for 
information; he's just saying that we have room for improvement.



Well, yes, but it remains to be seen whether everyone considers this 
room for improvement.  A lot of projects and products spend a lot of 
time working on non-goals; the question at hand is whether adoption by 
the level of user in question is or is not a goal.



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Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat....

2007-07-28 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese

Michael Fothergill wrote:
I suspect the web doesn't say much about it other than Acrobat exists 
and where you download it.



You might consider reading instead of suspecting -- that's not the case.


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Re: why do iceweasel et al have more frequent security issues?

2007-07-27 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
And, obviously, if security is your only standard, my pet schnauzer is a 
better browser than either of these.  Functionality must come into play 
as well.



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Re: [OT] Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-21 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese

Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:

So, let me see if I understand this.  The things for which Michelle,
Ron, Michael, Johannes, Judd, Florian and I were criticized, because
they were supposedly offensive, would be OK as long as they were in a
sig?
  



If they also honored the four-line sig netiquette, yes, they would be.  
A civil person deals with the content of posts and ignores the sigs they 
disagree with.



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Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese

Ron Johnson wrote:

IOW, sure they could try to sell add space on the Linux desktop, but
who would buy it?  Oracle?  Veritas?
  



Um, Veritas IS Symantec.


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Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-27 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese

Michelle Konzack wrote:

2)  The white asses of Jews which have very late adopted the judaeism
for arround a half century.
  


I was sympathetic to some of your arguments until this nonsense.  A 
little math indicates that you think there has been some huge upswing in 
white conversion to Judaism after World War II.  The facts are to the 
contrary -- percentages are decreasing.  Most white Jews can trace their 
heritage for at least 100 to 150 years, and often, much longer.



Question:  In the WTC they are over 2000 Jews are working.  Why they
   went not to work, if there was not a religious day?

Answer:The want waned by CIA/MOSSAD the whey want to bing down
   the WTC.  You can find proofs all over the Internet.
  


Among dingbat conspiracy theorists like yourself.  Nobody was warned.  
There was simply no mass absence.  It's a total fabrication.




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Re: Top posting

2005-06-10 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese

Alex Malinovich wrote:


Bottom-posting makes reading easier for those
who haven't followed an entire thread. 




True.  But that's the point: making it easier for those who *are* 
following a thread ahould be the priority. 



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Re: Top posting

2005-06-10 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese

Paul Johnson wrote:

It's 
preserved for posterity and not everybody wants to read a whole 
thread to figure out what solved some random printing problem. 




But, in fact, most people use web-based archives in which that's exactly 
how they access the messages after the original discussion.



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Re: Top posting (a different point of view)

2005-06-10 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese

Joe Potter wrote:


That, of course, is the main point you made. I put all this in the lap
of Bill Gates --- the miserable ass. He is never happy unless he is
destroying some standard and replacing it with crap of some kind.
 





Outlook does it this way not to be contrary, but for an obvious reason: 
it works better for the people who use it.


If you're involved in a discussion, and you're tracking it all -- 
because if you don't you're fired -- you want to see the most up-to-date 
addition to the discussion, and for the 5% of the time you need 
reminding, you can scroll down.  The immediate previous bit will 
probably remind you, and if not, the bit before that, etc.  It's much 
more useful for that sort of discussion than bottom-posting.  And I'm 
not speaking as a Windows-brainwashed suit -- I've been using Unix tools 
since 1984 and email since 1975.



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Re: Top posting

2005-06-10 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:


However, given the that majority
of people invloved in the actual *discussion* are reading it a mail or
news reader, it is better to cater to that group.  The fact these
discussion are archived on the web is really a side effect.

-




The majority of people involved in the actual discussion are involved in 
the actual discussion and don't need to be reminded ten minutes later 
what was just posted.



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Re: Top posting (a different point of view)

2005-06-10 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese

Joe Potter wrote:


You want to see the context. You want to see the flow of the discussion
--- like we did years ago before you had to cave due to all the suites
who can do no better. 



Sorry, but I'm not too slow to remember the substance of 95% of the 
conversations I have with my co-workers.



Gates is a cancer, and the after life will be warm
in his case if there is justice.
 




*plonk* Religious zealot.


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