Re: debian.org down?
I had problems with http.us.debian.org day before yesterday, and again today. apt-get update returns either Error reading from server Remote end closed connection on several of the gets, or it succeeds but takes forever, but the next one goes fast. Yesterday it was fine. The problem is happening right now. -- Join the Sergio Brandano Fan Club: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/1999/debian-user-199910/msg00981.html pgpOSpL6vzeAd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Wal-Mart PCs revisited
begin Paul 'Baloo' Johnson quotation: Or mail it to Rick Moen. :-) Who? Go to Google. Type in rick moen modem. Hit I'm Feeling Lucky. -- Join the Sergio Brandano Fan Club: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/1999/debian-user-199910/msg00981.html pgpbo4hjfDSC5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to keep Woody update when not in stable release?
begin Patrick Hsieh quotation: If the fixed packages of woody take a couple of days before dropping into the official woody archive. Then my woody system will become vulnerable in this period. I am kinda paranoid in this way? Your system doesn't become vulnerable the minute a patch is created for a vulnerability. Your system is vulnerable from the moment the package with the bug is installed. When you become aware of a vulnerability, take steps to temporarily correct the problem yourself. If you can, do without that service until it's fixed. Use tcp wrappers or firewalling to control access to it, or completely block it and use ssh tunnels to access it. If you can't do any of those, go get the fixed version from the author's web site, and install it manually. If you do this carefully you can easily back it out when a Debian package is available. This is especially easy if the author provides .debs. Or switch to a different package that serves the same purpose. For example, Debian offers several different ftp daemons. If your favorite has a vulnerability, and you just HAVE to use ftp, then you can switch to a different one for a while, or even forever. (Or, better yet, take advantage of this opportunity to stop using ftp.) -- Join the Sergio Brandano Fan Club: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/1999/debian-user-199910/msg00981.html pgpdbKbM97iey.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Applications close by themselves with CPU under load.
begin Michael D. Crawford quotation: Get memtest86. I was having some whacky problems on the PC I'm using right this second, and memtest86 showed that I had some bad memory. I randomly pulled one of the three memory modules and retested, and it passed the test. It's been stable as a rock ever since. http://www.memtest86.com/ Or use the Debian-based lnx-bbc: http://www.lnx-bbc.org This will give you memory testing and Linux booting, if needed, to allow you to do system repairs. -- Join the Sergio Brandano Fan Club: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/1999/debian-user-199910/msg00981.html pgpmK7ax96UgM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Gimp and GIF
begin [EMAIL PROTECTED] quotation: Alan Iirc, other distributions have a gif plugin which uses Alan libungif (ie, uncompressed and unencumbered by patents). Alan Any reason ours doesn't? I believe that's only for uncompressing gifs and displaying them. Writing gifs is another thing, which depends on the patented compression algo. I may be way off base here, but I think I'm one the right track... libungif is used to write non-compressed GIFs. Why anybody would want to write non-compressed GIFs is left as an exercise for the reader. Hint: really old browsers. -- Join the Sergio Brandano Fan Club: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/1999/debian-user-199910/msg00981.html pgpnNQyjWm9VW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: advice-- a friend claims he's under attack
begin justin cunningham quotation: Hi, sorry for the dramatic subject; a guy with a server in my colo called me saying his site and mail is down and he had trouble reaching the box. He's sshed in now and says netstat -n shows lots of established connections. I told him to kill them and set ip chain rule to deny all from that ip. What other advice can I give him immediately? Shut the box down and mail it to him. NOW. It's a danger to the security of all your customers. -- Join the Sergio Brandano Fan Club: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/1999/debian-user-199910/msg00981.html pgp1OjSMKjkSt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Wal-Mart PCs revisited
Here's the latest web report from somebody actually trying the Wal-Mart OSless PCs with Linux: http://newsforge.com/newsforge/02/04/29/0218241.shtml?tid=7 -- Join the Sergio Brandano Fan Club: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/1999/debian-user-199910/msg00981.html pgpTGBfSlIgFZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Wal-Mart PCs revisited
begin alex quotation: Most of the difficulties were with the winmodem. Some could not get the IMHO, this shouldn't deter anybody. This is a good enough price on these systems that you can pitch the winmodem in the trash (where it belongs) and throw on a real modem, and not miss the $10 you wasted. Or, better yet, mail the winmodem back to Wal-Mart, with a thanks anyway, bought a Courier v.Everything external on eBay for $20 instead. Or mail it to Rick Moen. :-) -- Join the Sergio Brandano Fan Club: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/1999/debian-user-199910/msg00981.html pgp8wldoRqlru.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: rlogin without a password
begin Dougie Nisbet quotation: This used to be a piece of cake, but now in the Brave New SSH world, it's a right royal pain. All I want to do, is switch on my laptop, and remsh to my server, without specifying a username or password. Can I do this with ssh, and if not, how do I install old rsh/rlogin on my woody system? Everybody else is giving you links to the RSAAuthentication method (which is a misnomer, since it works with DSA keys too), so I'll just mention the other alternative: .shosts files, which work pretty much like .rhosts, only for SSH only. There are security good points and bad points to each. Generally, it is my opinion that if the client account is to be used by a single person, RSAAuthentication is best; and if it is to be used by several people, .shosts is best. There are going to be responses now from perfectly reasonable people who completely disagree with me. -- Join the Sergio Brandano Fan Club: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/1999/debian-user-199910/msg00981.html pgp6biKbLwsdI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Posting dangerous code (was Re: Building kernel-image with kpkg)
begin Karsten M. Self quotation: Shawn's LART would purge all installed packages on a Debian system. Spoilsport. :-) Actually, I haven't tested it to see if it will really manage to purge them all. I suspect it will give at least one prompt, and probably manage to commit suicide before ALL the packages are gone. But it looks like it might get lilo before it crashes... More likely, it'll just give argument list too long and bomb out immediately. :-) Should I rebuild it with xargs? :-) -- Join the Sergio Brandano Fan Club: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/1999/debian-user-199910/msg00981.html pgp8aze2QH3Zc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Tool to find out info about machine ?
begin Jamin W. Collins quotation: Know what you're doing before you portscan people. Very good advice. However, better yet is to have permission. I agree, with the caveat that I consider portscanning me to be permission. :-) -- Join the Sergio Brandano Fan Club: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/1999/debian-user-199910/msg00981.html pgpcnYJ2a5d8N.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Tool to find out info about machine ?
begin Robert_L quotation: In addition to the other info given, for the location you can try: http://www.xpenguin.com/ip-atlas.php I got bored one day and set it up on my machine. You can try it out here if you want: http://www.phebe.linux-site.net/plot/plot.php http://www.phebe.linux-site.net/plot/plot.php?address=oa.eiv.com#map Says oa.eiv.com is located in Herndon, Virginia. It's in Florida. http://www.phebe.linux-site.net/plot/plot.php?address=poke.prod.fedex.com#map Says Memphis, Tennessee. It's in Florida. Thanks for the resource, though; it's great for underscoring my points about this stuff being guesses. :-) -- Join the Sergio Brandano Fan Club: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/1999/debian-user-199910/msg00981.html pgpMbN5JbJYGK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Windows 98 question.
begin infotechsys quotation: I have a friend that has Windows 98 installed on her computer and she can't remember her password. Is there anyway that she can get around this? Sure; she can erase the hard drive and install Debian. -- Join the Sergio Brandano Fan Club: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/1999/debian-user-199910/msg00981.html pgpWURTPFzxmE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Install Realplayer???
begin Leon quotation: Try this link: http://service.real.com/downloads.html They've done a good job of hiding the links alright. They've done more than that; right now, they show that version is not available if you try to download any of the Linux versions. At least, for v8 and v7; I didn't try earlier ones. -- Join the Sergio Brandano Fan Club: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/1999/debian-user-199910/msg00981.html pgplyACAlV6zZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Tool to find out info about machine ?
begin craigw quotation: Anyway, every single day I get dozens of requests for things like /MSADC/root.exe, winnt/system32/cmd.exe, etc, etc; all windows stuff therefore all failed requests. The typical thing is each IP will look for about 15 things and then give up. Here's a typical example: modemcable244.105-203-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca - - [20/Apr/2002:13:31:48 -0700] GET /scripts/root.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 404 210 It doesn't really bother me, but I am curious what sort of reactions can or should be made, or what if anything should be done about them. Those are Windows viruses, such as Nimda and CodeRed, attempting to attack your machine. Retaliation against the offending sites is tempting, but both futile and illegal. Letting the person know he's infected is probably futile, but sometimes helpful. Here's an approach I like: http://www.dasbistro.com/default_ida_info.html -- Join the Sergio Brandano Fan Club: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/1999/debian-user-199910/msg00981.html pgpf1a12gFfRv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: TCP: Treason uncloaked! . Anyone know this message?
begin César Augusto Seronni Filho quotation: I receive this message sometime in my dmesg: TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 200.193.246.5:35295/110 shrinks window 2694420037:2694420573. Repaired. Anyone know what this means? You have TCP debugging enabled. -- Join the Sergio Brandano Fan Club: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/1999/debian-user-199910/msg00981.html pgpQSK4k6kaV3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Tool to find out info about machine ?
begin Kapil Khosla quotation: I am interested in knowing the hostname, possibly location (server),of a remote machine whose IP address is known to me, For hostname information, try host. This will only work if they have reverse DNS set up for that IP address, and set up correctly. For location, you are largely screwed because this information isn't stored in any standardly-accessible way, but you might be able to make some inferences using traceroute. Those inferences can easily be wrong, however. The surest way to get what you want is to ask the administrator of the box, because there's nothing that says he has to set up reverse DNS to match his hostname, and he may not be in control of the reverse DNS at all. For information on how to use those commands: man host man traceroute If you don't have either of those programs, I recommend the following packages: traceroute bind9-host There is also a host package, but it has a serious feature ommission that the maintainer sees as a wishlist item. bind9-host doesn't have this particular issue. Note that there are many other programs that will do similar or identical things to these. As usual, there's more than one way to do it, and someone will most certainly think my way is wrong. These programs are a good start for you. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgp3ZLJUPS8jF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Tool to find out info about machine ?
begin Elizabeth Barham quotation: There is nmap which tries to guess the operating system plus some other things. Be careful advising people who don't know what they're doing to use nmap when they want to find host information. Many sysadmins see portscans as an attack. Some ISPs will delete your account for doing that. In some states folks might even attempt to prosecute you. Or, the response could be as benign as their end detecting the portscan and blocking access from your machine. Know what you're doing before you portscan people. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpR4VBBpthMF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Building kernel-image with kpkg
begin Karsten M. Self quotation: dpkg -P `apt-cache pkgnames` I suspect you're missing an operator term on your apt-cache command. In case he actually tried to do it, I didn't want him to nuke his entire system and cause me grief. I had complaints one time when I posted a similar procedure for RedHat that was functional. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpo0D4KDIG4n.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: MP3 streams sought
begin martin f krafft quotation: so what i am really looking for is some MP3 broadcast station out there which plays psychedelic and progressive rock from the sixties and early seventies, maybe even a little new age. bowie, floyd, yes, STFW. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgp25cxlv5xib.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Memory strange behaviour
begin Willy Sutrisno quotation: What version of RedHat? With what kernel? I was using RedHat 7.2, the kernel should be 2.4.10 RedHat hasn't shipped a 2.4.10 kernel for 7.2. As of last Friday the latest they'd shipped was a 2.4.9 with a ton of backports by Alan Cox, including VM fixes. If you put a 2.4.10 kernel on there yourself, that may be PART of the problem; there have been numerous VM fixes since that kernel, and most (I don't know the exact percentage) have been backported into their 2.4.9-31 kernel. However, the real answer is likely more due to the large amount of crap RedHat installs that Debian doesn't (by default). Without stats on your memory usage, it really isn't going to be possible to give you a complete answer on why. But we have a saying here in the US; don't look a gift horse in the mouth. If your system is doing less thrashing, hoist a beer to the Linux kernel folks and the Debian folks, and enjoy. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpOQzsYbeGer.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: USB in woody
begin Joachim Fahnenmueller quotation: you will get more and better answers if you post in English. Or, alternately, post in German on the German list. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpUAvjrmdyLj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: lease line
begin Oi Yan quotation: Anyone can explain to me the different between T3 and DS3? Yes; your telephone company. and suggest the website to me about lease line Your telephone company's web site. Or Google. STFW. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpTUUjPLvKIW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: courier-imap and windows mail client
begin Patrick Kirk quotation: Lookout/Lookout Express (never!) Not very Pc to ask but why not? Its probably the one that your Dad will find easiest and that means a lot. Why not remove the lock from his front door? He'll find that easiest... Intentionally getting a family member hooked on crack is evil. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgp1azbo6eE8w.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: how to create a link of another directory in home directory ...2
begin Eric G. Miller quotation: Some might argue that hard links are a bad thing and should be avoided. Others might point out that there is at least one hard link to EVERY file that appears in a directory listing. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgp1NVfKRtx2Z.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: courier-imap and windows mail client
begin Jamin W. Collins quotation: And for those of you that may claim Linux is too difficult to understand for most users. My mother made the switch a while back. She's in her 50's and happily running Debian. My experience is the same. And, if they're using Linux, you don't have to have them do a bunch of commands to diagnose a problem that they call you about; you just have them do one command, and read off their IP address, then you ssh in and fix it. However, I'm not suggesting that guy replace his family member's OS; I'm merely suggesting that giving a new user Outlook Express is 99% the same as just going ahead and installing the Klez virus for him. Save him the time and trouble, just go ahead and erase his files now, instead of getting him hooked on Outlook Express crack. Give your family members a fighting chance at not getting infected with the virus-of-the-week. Install Netscape and Mozilla, and strongly suggest they only use Netscape when Mozilla won't work with a particular web site. Install a better email program, and spend a few minutes teaching them how to use it. That's all it takes. My wife had to call me the other day because she couldn't figure out how to change to a directory on a different drive than C: on the Windows box she works on 8 hours a day. But she logs onto a Linux workstation at home every day, surfs the web with Mozilla, switches to Netscape when she wants to pay credit-card bills and such, and used Mutt for her mail for six months before she decided to switch to Netscape Mail. It took me five minutes of teaching her Mutt (and writing down the most common menu keys for her) before she was fine with it. Ditto for Netscape Mail, except without the writing down part. The few minutes of effort you spend teaching a family member to use, say, Agent or Pegasus or Eudora or Netscape Mail will be repaid a thousandfold in time you don't spend explaining why their files were deleted or their system is sending out tons of spam and they're getting hundreds of hate mails. Even if they stay on Windows, you're doing them and the entire Internet a favor. Besides, Outlook Express doesn't even follow the MIME standard, despite putting MIME headers in mails, so it's not even an Internet email program; it's an internal office email program with limited Internet-like functionality that, unfortunately, has some ability to inject mail into the Internet. IMNERHO. (And yes, I'm aware RFC-822 is a standard, and RFC-1521 isn't.) -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpKOBmMCsvAQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Re: Hard Discs and Virtual Memory ...
begin Soul Computer quotation: I will word wrap manually by pressing Enter. I apologize for any problems Earthlink's Webmail may have cuased everyone. Please configure it to do proper quoting. If it can't, complain to customer service. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpMgulXbWaZT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: how to create a link of another directory in home directory ...2
begin Eric G. Miller quotation: And, in the context of using ln, your point is? That question is unanswerable, because it contains a faulty assumption. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgph9mK6RZNt4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mozilla Mail
begin Carlos Sousa quotation: When the time came for me to see this particular light, and establish the mail setup you so aptly describe, all my explorations of Mozilla led me to give up on it, as it *insists* on fetching email from a pop/imap server (at least for versions up to 0.9.8, I think). So set up an imap server, listening only on 127.0.0.1. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpRgc4kbtT0x.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Re: installing woody
begin Noah Sombrero quotation: on a promise 66 card. Don't know why potato thinks it is e. Is it possible that woody thinks it is something else? dmesg | grep ^hd -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgp3zqn1qug3U.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: fetchmail daemon dies, won't restart
begin Brian Nelson quotation: ...as it shouldn't. It should say fetchmail already running and not do anything else if fetchmail is running. If he wanted it to restart every time, he should change the start to restart (but it that case it wouldn't make sense to run fetchmail as a daemon). I was making the comment on what it was doing, not what I thought it should do. Any init.d scripts I write behave exactly as you describe. However, having a restart option does make sense to run fetchmail as a daemon. In fact, a restart option doesn't make sense UNLESS you're running as a daemon; otherwise, you'd just use start. He wants his daemon periodically killed and restarted, unless I misunderstood the email. A restart option is exactly the right thing to have. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpbHORnulXA3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: xv on potato?
begin Mike Fontenot quotation: that he get it from potato. I can't find it on potato either. Has it been removed from potato also? Is there any way to get it in a debian package? STFW. Go to google, type in xv debian, and hit I'm Feeling Lucky. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpMco4E5TGI0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] Asus A7M266 motherboard and Debian
begin Faheem Mitha quotation: Sorry, another off-topic hardware message, but hopefully the last one. Hopefully? You do understand that you're in control of whether you send those, right? If you wanna post something off-topic, just do it; apologizing for it while doing it is asinine. If you think it's right to do, don't apologize; if you think it's wrong to do, don't do it. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpKL0OlbSHHb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Memory strange behaviour
begin Willy Sutrisno quotation: I installed potato last week. For the past 1 week, I observed that potato very seldom use my swap. Previously when I was using RedHat, my comp use alot of swap. Sometime even reach 100%, left my ram 80% utilize. And this is a problem because??? Can someone enlighten me, why this thing happen? I can see that when I was using redhat, the swap is keep running. I can observe this from gkrellm. Now, when I use potato, it is very seldom use swap. The most only 10%. What version of RedHat? With what kernel? -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpc3We0PWDgq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Command Line Listing?
begin Travis King quotation: If you could supply me with a list of commands for Linux, and how to start the GUI it would be greatly apreciated. http://www.debian.org/doc/ -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpivSkaX0LeV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Woody with ext3, 2.4 kernel + custom install questions
begin Andrew Pollock quotation: I work for a managed security provider, and one of the reasons that they are using Mandrake over the likes of Red Hat is because of the control Mandrake allows over what gets installed. (i.e. when you say you want nothing, you get exactly that. The exact example that was told to me was with Red Hat you'd say you wanted nothing installed, but the thing would still listen on port 25. I have to say that even a base install of Debian has port 25 open, which is going to unimpress some people here...) Define what they meant by port 25 open. If you don't install an SMTP daemon of any kind, such as sendmail or exim, you won't have anything listening on that port, but open means different things in different contexts. Also, want nothing installed is irrational. If NOTHING is installed, you won't have any ports listening, because you'll have a blank hard drive. You can't say when I installed RedHat (or Mandrake or Debian etc.) I told it to install nothing. It's nonsensical. Either you're misremembering what was said, or the person saying it was very very confused. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpo5IhZ8qwcI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: fetchmail daemon dies, won't restart
begin Karsten M. Self quotation: I've changed the inovcation to read: 3,18,33,48 * * * * root /etc/init.d/fetchmail start 1/dev/null Checking just now, the daemon's still running. Change that /dev/null to /tmp/wtfisupwithfetchmail for a while, and see what your script is telling you. Sounds like your script isn't killing fetchmail on a start. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpB7OtjSUnXn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: linux.debian.user newsgroup
begin Karsten M. Self quotation: Please *don't* Cc: me on list mail. He's using Pine. Good luck. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpWpjEv8O2ez.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Machine not freeing Cached Memory?
begin Paul Sargent quotation: holly:~/linux-2.4.14# free -tm Try a newer kernel. They've been farking around with the VM lately. In particular, look at the changelog for 2.4.17: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/ChangeLog-2.4.17 Especially this line: - Make kernel try a bit harder to shrink caches instead swapping out I'd go ahead and take the plunge into 2.4.18, while you're trying new things anyway. Not saying this WILL fix your problem, but if there are known VM bugs, and you're having a VM problem, it seems like a good thing to try. Especially since you can always boot back into your old kernel. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpf9iCkN7vNh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to speed up fetching mail
begin Karsten Heymann quotation: fetch every day). Now how can I reduce the online time? Is there some way to scan/sanitize the mail in background? Or at least fetch from the accounts parallelly? I tried retchmail from unstable but it somehow Ok, first off, change your name; one Karsten is enough. :-) If you want to parallelize fetchmail, make four config files, and run four fetchmails, each with the -f option; or just pass each all the parameters on the command line, although that's bad because of passwords. If you want fetchmail to run in the background, use the -d option to make it a daemon. Combine both for parallel daemons. Don't forget to kill the daemons if you're using dial-on-demand, or set a long time period on -d, or they'll nail up your connection. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpcQGE5wUDqE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: leafnode kupdated
begin sda quotation: kupdated is a kernel daemon, not KDE (though leave it to KDE to make things more komplex and konfusing and kbloated than necissary, but CDE and Gnome both suck as well). Thanks fell silly now thinking it was a kde process. I agree both of those Window Managers suck, I'm partial to wmaker, icewm and xfce. GNOME isn't a window manager. On one of my boxes, I use icewm with GNOME. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpodDDLvSodP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to speed up fetching mail
begin Karsten Heymann quotation: I hoped for a simpler solution (not that yours would be really hard to implement). Why isn't there a 'fetch parallely=yes' feature for fetchmail? Never mind. 'cause Eric Raymond doesn't feel that itch as severely as you. I recommend sending him either a patch, or sufficient inducements per hour. BTW: Is there any way to hide arguments? More than one. Use a here document, for instance. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpMNzifeITg7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: newbie needs help w/partitioning
begin [EMAIL PROTECTED] quotation: I have a 1.5 Gbyte disk partitioned into 2 DOS drives, one 900 Mbyte (Windows), and the other 600 Mbyte. I want to use the 600 Mbyte for Linux. Using cfdisk in dbootstrap I configure two primary partitions in this drive, a Linux swap and a Linux native. I'd like to keep the Windows partition bootable, so it comes up by default, and I would like to boot linux from the floppy. Is this possible? Is there a better way? Wrap your lines so people can quote in context more easily, please. Yes, it's possible. Yes, there's a better way; use a boot manager such as lilo or grub to allow you to select either Windows or Linux from a boot-time menu. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgp0Dtj8AC05B.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Re: Scwawcaac: I need a little more on apps available for Linux
begin [EMAIL PROTECTED] quotation: Then it would only make sense to start with a program that a lot of people already like and whose source is available (like LaTeX), and change it so it can do everything you want it to accomplish. Maybe give a Gui and call it GooeyLaTex. :) A GUI for LaTeX? Who would have ever thought of such a thing? http://www.lyx.org -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgponlpAVIS6o.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: dns web configurator
begin Francois Chenais quotation: I'm looking for a web dns configurator. STFW. http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=dns+configsection=projects -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpxfQI1Tk3k8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: replacement for ical?
begin Michael Jinks quotation: Is there something in woody that will read ical data files, or, has anybody managed to get ical to build on woody? STFW: http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/223/2001/3/0/5458561/ -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpQFWjInnib1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: sendmail half-works (more data)
begin dman quotation: Is sendmail supposed to be suid or something? Bingo. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpEmgqGaRvVT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: sendmail half-works (more data)
begin dman quotation: Ok, so should /usr/sbin/sendmail be suid root? (I'm not sure because sendmail is much more complex than exim is and has many more pieces) Yes. If so, why wasn't it that way already? Does the package come with it suid and linuxconf screwed it up, or is the package broken? (version 8.12.3-4) Dunno, I've never installed sendmail on a Debian system. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpdXTQA6o5bQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: sendmail half-works (more data)
begin Richard A Nelson quotation: | Bingo. Bzzt. wrong for sendmail = 8.12.0 ! Oops. Glad to hear that. That will cure a lot of ills. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpLxouMnm0tj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Newbie and scan attack
begin DSC Siltec quotation: Okay, here's the kicker question: How can I, as a newbie, track this down and root it out, and clean my system? Also, is there a way I can do it without spending days at it, learning? You want us to distill security administration into an email? Pay somebody to do it for you, or expect to spend at least days at it, learning. Cc: me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Set the appropriate headers. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpSvAwHCghfc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Anyone using Jabber on Woody
begin Costa, Todd (DMH) quotation: jabber.cfg and xml files. I do see an error in the record.log and I can see my user registration but that's it. I am stuck... When you say you see an error and you see your user registration, do you mean that you see an error with your user registration? Or are they seperate things? Perhaps you could post the log entries. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpE6Dyk0XUP4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: $netstat -a
begin [EMAIL PROTECTED] quotation: Do an lsof | grep raw and post what you find. tried that and no joy. You'll have to be root; sorry, should have mentioned that. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgplxhK3nrzUM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: firewall / ipchains ?
begin afj quotation: i have 2 (physically seperate for security resons) networks. i'd like to be able to access both from a linux box. Are those security reasons your choice, or imposed from without? If the latter, you don't want to do this. If the former, keep in mind that by doing this, you are UNDOING the seperation. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpeLJHxaydsr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: simple anon ftp server
begin Raffaele Sandrini quotation: I'd like to set up a simple internal anonymous FTP server. I use wu-ftpd for now. Don't bother troubleshooting wu-ftpd. Get rid of it, don't subject yourself to the remote-root-exploit-of-the-week. I like PureFTPD. It is not the only good solution. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpzYuCtVy9dm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: how to get debconf or whoever to leave my ntp.conf alone
begin Dimitri Maziuk quotation: *Boggle* Which part of USER SHOULD BE ABLE TO MARK PARTS OF HIS SYSTEM AS ``MAINTAINERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO FUCK WITH THIS NO MATTER WHAT'' do you still not understand? man chattr -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpz2Oq3JQlX5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: how to get debconf or whoever to leave my ntp.conf alone
begin Dimitri Maziuk quotation: *Boggle* Which part of USER SHOULD BE ABLE TO MARK PARTS OF HIS SYSTEM AS ``MAINTAINERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO FUCK WITH THIS NO MATTER WHAT'' do you still not understand? man chattr Search list archives for my replies to my XF86Config-4 is hosed messages (there's more than one). BS. You complained that users couldn't do something. I told you where to find the information about how to do it. I couldn't conceivably care less what you told somebody else about why there needs to be a way to do this, because there IS A WAY TO DO IT. Use it or get over it. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgp8cULCfOg69.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Partitioning question?
begin [EMAIL PROTECTED] quotation: My question is, Does it really make sense (i.e. is it worth the time and maintenance effort) to make multiple partitions on a disk? On mission-critical servers, yes. On home boxes and workstations, probably not. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpDBxLtvMqY1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: how to get debconf or whoever to leave my ntp.conf alone
begin Dimitri Maziuk quotation: Had you bothered to pull your head out of your ass and actually check the archives, you'd find that I'm not only aware of existence and uses of chattr, but I've also recommended its use more than once to those whose XF86Config-4 got hosed by xserver upgrade. And I'd still not care. And, remarkably, still don't. And if you had a semblance of clue you'd know that chattr is not a generic solution, as it is not available on all supported filesystems. If someone doesn't know how to use chattr, they shouldn't be screwing around with weird filesystems anyway. I'm willing to bet, right here in front of fifty jillion readers of this list, that you can't find three emails you've received from people who: 1) Got their XF86Config-4 hosed. 2) Didn't understand why. 3) Use a non-ext-derived filesystem. 3b) Can articulate why they're doing so in a technical manner. Gott-in-freakin'-himmel, are there any people with IQ over 40 on this list? Yes, but most of us aren't talking to you on this subject, since you left the path of reason almost immediately. I'm naive enough to think you might learn something. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpZaeg3UAqwM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Apt-get Upgrade/Update question
begin Matthew Daubenspeck quotation: What exactly does this mean? That you haven't read the man page for apt-get. The following packages have been kept back webalizer upgrade upgrade is used to install the newest versions of all packages currently installed on the system from the sources enumerated in /etc/apt/sources.list. Packages currently installed with new versions available are retrieved and upgraded; under no cir cumstances are currently installed packages removed, or packages not already installed retrieved and installed. New versions of currently installed packages that cannot be upgraded without changing the install status of another package will be left at their current version. An update must be performed first so that apt-get knows that new ver sions of packages are available. See especially the line New versions of currently installed packages that cannot be upgraded without changing the install status of another package will be left at their current version. One way to fix it: apt-cache show webalizer (look at the dependencies, see if there are any that you recognize as things you DON'T want installed for some reason) Once you're happy with the dependencies; apt-get install webalizer (that will force it to go ahead and install new software to meet dependencies.) Many people skip the apt-cache show webalizer part, and just pray for the best. If your system isn't mission-critical, there's a lot to be said for this practice, and less to be said against it, but you're still taking a risk if you do. I do it all the time, haven't broken anything serious yet. BTW, after you do an apt-get update, one way to find out what will be installed before you commit to it is apt-get -s upgrade. The -s says don't actually do it, just show me what you would do. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpqstFHCilg9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: KMail/Mozilla /var/mail
begin craigw quotation: On Tue Apr 23, 2002 at 12:13:19AM -0400, Andy Saxena wrote: On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 12:35:51AM -0600, Troy Telford wrote: How do I set up kmail/mozilla to read email in /var/mail? -- Craig: Please don't set off your text with --. Two dashes at the beginning of a line customarily set off the signature or other unimportant text, and many of us configure our email programs to display that in a muted color, so as to make it less intrusive. It's a minor PITA if the entire message is set off that way. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpToEn22i2nA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: $netstat -a
begin [EMAIL PROTECTED] quotation: raw0 0 *:icmp *:* 7 raw0 0 *:tcp *:* 7 Do an lsof | grep raw and post what you find. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpH4TC2REdRV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: $netstat -a
begin Matijs van Zuijlen quotation: Do an lsof | grep raw and post what you find. Have you tried netstat -ap ? It'll show you process id and program name of the corresponding process. You may need to be root to see all of them. Yes, it will. See the .sig. :-) I think lsof's output is prettier, but YMOV. :-) -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpEN874e0OrV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Support for wireless PCMCIA
begin Grant Edwards quotation: What is the right way to add support for this card? I could build wlan-ng from sources, but then I'd have a system that can't be automatically updated. Because of support issues, I'm very adverse to using things that aren't supported Debian packages. Convince Mark to create .debs for his software. A sufficient number of inducements per hour should do the trick. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpaIkZhoaHVC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Re: Scwawcaac: I need a little more on apps available for Linux
begin Soul Computer quotation: If you want something free (speech) and works like Quark, try Scribus: http://web2.altmuehlnet.de/fschmid/ If you want something free and works a bit like FrameMaker, try KWord (a KDE project). And, if you just want to write a professional-looking document and are more concerned with making good content than screwing around with formatting, use LaTeX or Lyx. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpoUm6e4V2DB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: my isp is being told *i* am broadcasting spam?
begin Noah Meyerhans quotation: You would firewall an ISP's network??? I would switch providers immediately if my ISP ever did such a thing. No, I would firewall the internal servers off from both the outside world and the customers, opening only the ports each needed to access. You're thinking this means putting a firewall between the modems and world. As I've said previously today, I am responsible for the security of a high-profile network (i.e. constantly being scanned and/or actively attacked) with hundreds of users and *no firewall*. And I am responsible for the security of a segment of FedEx's network. It doesn't get much more high-profile than that. I don't have hundreds of users; I have hundreds of SERVERS. The security of these boxes affects not only 200,000 FedEx employees, but millions of customers, including all FedEx invoices. Now, can we stop comparing dicks, and go back to the argument? :-) BTW, I'm not by any means suggesting the firewall relieves any responsibility for internal security. The biggest problem we have is exactly the one you've suggested; some segment of the network that is controlled by another team leaves something open that they shouldn't, a customer-facing box gets infected with something, and that starts pounding servers. Sometimes it affects servers I don't control, but that my servers rely on, and thus I get angry what are you going to do about this questions from management, that I have to answer with I'm going to go to lunch, and update you when they update me. Nine times out of ten, it's the Windows people. I will not give specific examples, but let's just say the color red and the letter N have been involved. :-) However, the firewall does allow us to do things that are absolutely necessary on a network this large, and containing this many mission-critical legacy systems; use insecure protocols without exposing them to the network, and without the people who control the internet-facing routers being in the loop for every software installation on every box in the entire network. We're too large for everything to be coordinated at that level. Our having a firewall helps you too; if some idiot were to, hypothetically, allow his servers to become infected with Code Red, our firewall would hypothetically keep his box from being able to scan the Internet for new hosts to infect, thereby causing that traffic to, instead of overloading other networks, overload our own. Hypothetically. :-) Also, when you hear the word firewall, you may be assuming that means a seperate server that is called the firewall. Remember that using ipchains or iptables to secure a specific server is implementing a firewall on that server. The very act of securing your specific UNIX systems quite likely involves implementing dozens of firewalls. When somebody sets their routers to block outbound martian packets to prevent IP spoofing, they're implementing a firewall. When you, as you said, block specific ports, that's a firewall with a default allow policy. We have lots of firewalls, blocking lots of things from lots of other things. I wish we had more, blocking more things, but I am a medium-sized fish in a damn huge pond. On-topic: a firewall is a useful component of securing a Debian box, or a Debian-based network. A box running Debian can be used to build a particularly effective firewall. To say that a firewall isn't useful because it doesn't prevent EVERYTHING, is the same as saying that keeping your root password a secret isn't useful because it doesn't prevent EVERYTHING, or that seatbelts are useless because you can still die in a car accident. Firewalls are useful. For the uninitiated, they are necessary, even if only a per-box firewall, simply because you may not know HOW to secure every port on your box, and a default-deny firewall puts you in a less insecure position, requiring deliberate action to become less secure, as opposed to deliberate action to become more secure. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgp1qTlvsJJaU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: my isp is being told *i* am broadcasting spam?
begin ben quotation: other guy--and i'm saying this for his benefit even more than yours--is placing way too much faith in an idea that's all too close to the catholic's belief in the rhythm method. This is the last thing I'm going to say on this. Quoting Practical Unix and Internet Security, page 637: Firewalls are powerful tools, but they should never be used INSTEAD of other security measures. They should only be used IN ADDITION to such measures. If you don't believe that, fine; but shit-can the ad-hominem attacks based on your lack of knowledge and experience on the subject. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgppdirkZNm9a.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Woody: xhost + on Local Machine not Working
begin Karsten M. Self quotation: Unless the other machine is not administrated by you, There are few X11-capable systems whic won't allow users to run arbitrary clients. Including an ssh client run from floppy or a user-installed directory. Karsten, have you ever worked somewhere large enough that you didn't control the policies for every machine you were required to use? I have. There are MANY X11-capable systems who's administrators will not allow users to run arbitrary clients, install arbitrary software, or access the floppy drives. Hell, I'm not driving to Memphis or flying to Singapore to put a floppy in a drive every time I need to use somebody else's server to get my job done. If you need to find a client for your platform, see a comprehensive list at: http://www.linuxmafia.com/pub/linux/security/ssh-clients I've got a client for the platforms in question. It's not worth getting fired to install it. X11 forwarding effects server only. For the client, this is command-line configurable. And the server's config can prevent it. There's simply no excuse _not_ to use SSH over any network more complex than PLIP. Which doesn't prevent other people from making bad decisions. I am not the president of the company. I am responsible for security and software and policy decisions on a few hundred servers, and even there I am not the ultimate authority; management is. I'm not quitting my job because of that, nor am I going to violate their policies and get fired because of it, unless you (or someone else) is going to offer me sufficient inducements per hour to do so. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpNhzlsp8MjY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: weird font style
begin Ilia Lobsanov quotation: What do you make of this photo? http://home.nurey.net/debian/weird_font.JPG Well, if I print it out, I could make a hat, or a pterodactyl... -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpJjwsMQp3Sd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: apt-cache
begin Satelle, StevenX quotation: I work in intel (contracter) but this is a machine at home. I have explicit instructions (read warnings) not to attempt to put a linux machine on the intel network. Do NOT fuck with Intel on this. They have a history regarding policy violations. I don't want to start a he did / they did flame war on this, because there's more than one side to the story, but: http://www.lightlink.com/spacenka/fors/ Bottom line; assume they will not react well if you violate their policies. Better safe than sorry. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpwTIHLXCycN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: weird font style
begin DSC Extra quotation: However, this person also has downloaded a lot of mp3 files, it would seem. Therefore, this person does not have a lot of respect for copyrights or licensing... and thus is not a self-employed, professional programmer. I bet the jerk owns a radio, too. The nerve of some people. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpT5cVXf9gv4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Automated spam reporting?
begin Paul 'Baloo' Johnson quotation: Are there any debianified tools to look up proper abuse contacts and fire off spam reports automagically a-la spamcop? Automagically is bad; most of the work done for you, with final confirmation by you before it's sent, is good. So instead of looking for something like spamcop, use spamcop. It has the advantage of already having implemented list-detection, which saves you some more work. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgppvWVNaboKW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: MCA/PCI failure
begin Ina Frank quotation: I am wondering if IBM uses the PCI-adresses for MCA, but in that case: what will happen if one machine has MCA AND PCI, like this one Some IBM machines require booting with a floppy to update BIOS settings whenever you add or remove cards, even for PCI. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpu615q4MFpb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Adding kernel modules after install
begin Pollywog quotation: You mean: make dep ; make clean ; make modules ; make modules_install ? O, no, don't do that; that will procede with later steps if an earlier step fails, scrolling that information right off the screen. Bad juju. Get out of that habit right now. At the very least, you want instead of ; everywhere. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpfKfwQJa945.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Automated spam reporting?
begin Karsten M. Self quotation: First, ricochet is pretty naive. It would be very helpful to specify _only_ non-spoofed headers be responded to. This is difficult to do, spamcop does a pretty good job of it. It's not perfect, but it's pretty good. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgprYBMdcZzAw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mozzila: inbox message disappearing
begin DvB quotation: If you see this problem with the latest version (1.0-RC1 was recently released and can be downloaded from http://www.mozilla.org. The latest version in Debian is 0.9.9, AFAIK), bash-2.05a$ apt-cache show mozilla Package: mozilla Priority: optional Section: web Installed-Size: 32 Maintainer: Takuo KITAME [EMAIL PROTECTED] Architecture: i386 Version: 2:1+rc1-1 Replaces: mozilla-dmotif, mozilla-smotif Depends: mozilla-browser (= 2:1+rc1-1), mozilla-mailnews (= 2:1+rc1-1), mozilla-psm (= 2:1+rc1-1) Suggests: mozilla-xmlterm (= 2:1+rc1-1), mozilla-chatzilla (= 2:1+rc1-1) Filename: pool/main/m/mozilla/mozilla_1+rc1-1_i386.deb Size: 1154 MD5sum: 68d5f97cf9550a95c4e78c52976605eb Description: Mozilla Web Browser - dummy package This is a dummy package that depends on the main components of the mozilla web browser. It is here to ease upgrades, installations, and provide a consistent upgrade path from previous versions. . It can safely be removed with no ill effects. Task: desktop -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpW8xpewwhtB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Woody: xhost + on Local Machine not Working
begin Karsten M. Self quotation: There is a serious problem at your site. You've raised this issue? Deaf ears. Located in another time zone, and miles above my pay grade. I'll presume one end or the other is under your control. Yes; but BOTH ends have to allow X forwarding before it works. You're not responsible for security. You're the fall guy if someone else's broken policy compromises your systems. Accountability without responsibility. No, I am responsible for security on a very small piece of the overall pie. When I say hundreds of servers people think whole company. My hundreds of servers are in 5 out of 100 projects in this company. FedEx's IT division (actually a seperate company, FedEx Services) is larger than some major telecommunications companies. It's 5,000 employees, servicing machines that support 200,000 employees, and a customer base so huge that we had higher revenues than Microsft up until a couple of years ago. We're HUGE, and I'm just one guy, in a team, which has responsibility for security on a paltry few of the thousands of servers in this company. And at that, only the UNIX servers. Some of my projects also have NT servers, and I don't even have a login for some of those. However, I am not committed to SSH, or Linux, or any other piece of software. I am committed to my family, and while I have very strongly-held principles that I can and have left jobs for, using Open solutions at all times isn't one of them. All of the servers for which I have responsibility have SSH installed. There are dozens I must use to get my work done that are other teams' responsibility, and some of those do not. It's not worth walking out of my job for, because my management IS reasonable about assigning blame; when something goes wrong, I show that it wasn't on my end, and all is well. If it was, I show how I'm going to prevent it from happening again, and all is well. You have to work hard to get fired around here. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpDnzDzyg46K.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Building kernel-image with kpkg
begin Grant Edwards quotation: You're arbitrarily nuking things from the source tree. It's not my fault, somebody told me to! This is a test. You can restore those files by typing: dpkg -P `apt-cache pkgnames` -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpCY5O0dJ74c.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Woody: xhost + on Local Machine not Working
begin David Z Maze quotation: Don't do that. xhost is notoriously insecure; ssh X forwarding is easier to manage, isn't vulnerable to IP spoofing attacks, and doesn't require you to manually set DISPLAY. The X server in woody comes, by Unless the other machine is not administrated by you, and either doesn't have ssh, or doesn't allow X forwarding in it's ssh config. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpK7Pitk6dBK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: my isp is being told *i* am broadcasting spam?
begin Noah Meyerhans quotation: So what are you suggesting, then? This was Will's mail server we're talking about. First you say it needs to be behind the firewall or else it's doomed to be cracked, then you say it needs to be in the DMZ. A DMZ is still behind the firewall. A DMZ is it's own little isolated corner where all traffic to the Internet goes through the firewall, and all traffic to the LAN goes through the firewall. That way, if the server is cracked, it still can't get to anything except on the ports that are trusted. This enables you to use insecure protocols behind your firewall, yet still have net-facing services such as email, with a higher degree of confidence that a security bug in the net-facing box won't compromise your entire network. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpSphCNDm9zD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: woody's frozen-bubble package
begin Bob Underwood quotation: I believe frozen-bubble requires xfree86-v4, not v3. Nope; runs fine on my laptop, which is using v3. I wish it didn't; that damn game is worse than crack. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpyxVf6jNPvH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: using unstable package on testing?
begin Vineet Kumar quotation: Yes, and actually quite painless. Create an /etc/apt/preferences file with something like this in it: Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 700 Package: * Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 500 I've been wondering something about this. Some people suggest the above, and others have suggested (and I am using): Add the following to /etc/apt/apt.conf: APT::Default-Release testing; It appears to do the exact same thing as the longer method proposed above. What's different? -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpVlpMFwH58P.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: my isp is being told *i* am broadcasting spam?
begin will trillich quotation: thanks. i did similar tests at paladinCorp.com (specifically, http://www.paladincorp.com.au/unix/spam/spamlart/ ) and they found some instaces where my setup didn't retch at certain questionable email syntaxes: Don't use them. The true test is if your system actually relays messages, not whether it rejects the attempt before receipt. There are other sites that will test these same vulnerabilities, but only flag on them if a test email actually gets through. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpAdHUEkCeBq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: rh7.1 - r2.2r5 (cd) or 2.2r6
begin Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine quotation: I've a machine on which I've installed rh7.1. I'd like to switch distos. The cd rom is failing, so a solution that uses the net would be nice, with or without the use of boot floppies. The underlying kernel is 2.5.8, which I can bump down (or up) vastly easier than I can replace all the userland bits of the distros. Is there a question in all of that, that I just can't see? If it's can I install Debian without a CD, the answer is yes, using a boot floppy. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpS9BdATudNv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: my isp is being told *i* am broadcasting spam?
begin Noah Meyerhans quotation: I just don't see how that gets you anything at all if only the trusted ports have any services listening on them. I have seen personally a WinNT box, behind a firewall, with only port 80 visible to the world get cracked. Not only was it cracked, but it was then used as a launch pad for an attack on another box that was also in the DMZ. All that was with only port 80 open. Ok, I don't see why this has not been sufficient in some circumstances translates to not getting you anything at all. Every security tool ever used fails this test you seem to be using. Basically, my approach is to assume that all ports on all hosts are visible to the world. To me, this as a fundamental fact of networking. That probably works on a small network. Try it with several thousand servers and 200,000 users, not counting internet customers. Or try it with an ISP, where you can't control the configuration on ANY of the users' computers. I've worked in both situations. Firewalls are a godsend. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpWmdp8qIN2m.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: cut-n-pasting links
begin Rick Pasotto quotation: The way I usually do it in gnome-terminal is to select too much. This way I click outside the link and select a bit of leading/trailing text along with the link. That works but is a cludgy work-around that requires additional editing thus nullifying the benefits of cut-n-paste. Then the answer to your question is no, you can't do that in Mozilla. Submit a feature request or a patch. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpYcHvLkyX5c.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Running Yahoo Messenger??
begin David B Harris quotation: Actually, it's a very good spam filter. It, by default, adds headers to the message (X-Yahoo-FilteredBulk or somesuch). I've received some fourty thousand mails over my yahoo.ca account; some of them spam. I have NEVER EVER gotten a false positive from Yahoo's spam marking/filtering stuff, and it caught about %65 of all spam. That's pretty god-damned impressive. Well, first off, 65% sucks. I get a lot more than that with just two anti-spam filters in my sendmail config, osirus and njabl. However, the efficiency of their filter isn't what I'm questioning. They made a decision just a couple of weeks ago to essentially turn themselves into a spam address harvesting service. I can conceive of no other reason for doing that than selling the addresses, especially since the revised terms of service specifically say that they will do so. If they're going to sell the addresses, do you honestly think they're going to filter the mail sent from those customers? If so, why would the customers buy the addresses? The only logical thing they could do would be to NOT filter those customers, and have you're not filtered be one of the sales points. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpsKzCT9LZi8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: my isp is being told *i* am broadcasting spam?
begin Noah Meyerhans quotation: HA! That's the most rediculous thing I've ever heard on this list. ridiculous. The only thing a firewall is good for is to provide you with a false sense of security. A firewall is a useful tool for securing a network. If you don't know enough about security to know that, you shouldn't be pontificating on the subject in a public list. Like any other tool, it is neither necessary nor sufficient in and of itself. If you want to be able to run services like web or mail servers, you by definition must start punching holes in your firewall. And, of course, opening a single hole in a firewall makes it completely useless. NOT. Go away, troll. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgp7x5WTP8lGF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: my isp is being told *i* am broadcasting spam?
begin Noah Meyerhans quotation: And what do you do when a security vulnerability arises in your firewall implementation? The same thing you do when that happens with any other component of your network; fix it, have plans in place to recover from it, and have monitoring in place to detect it as quickly as your budget allows. Or when an attacker is able to hijack a web browsing session by one of your internal users? See above. The idea that firewalls are the panacea of network security is very dangerous. The idea that anybody who says a firewall is a useful tool automatically thinks it's a panacea is a straw man you created. No network should be trusted, and firewalling off your little subnet is not going to change that. I don't see you putting your root password in your .signature. I mean, after all, if it's that black and white (either security is useless, or you disconnect from the network), then you shouldn't mind doing that. It's been said many times before: the only secure computer is one that's not plugged in. Yes, it has; but there's usually a few hundred more pages in the book after that, or the meeting continues and goes on to doing some useful work. Leave security to the professionals; or even to the amateurs. Just leave it to somebody that recognizes that it has value, OK? -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpraRjJnUPjw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: my isp is being told *i* am broadcasting spam?
begin dman quotation: Noah (and I) didn't say a firewall was useless, just that discussing firewalls when the problem is a (potential) mail relay is wholly pointless. Noah did say that. You, to the best of my knowledge, didn't. The original poster was concerned of a number of things, including the possibility that he'd been hacked. The response that triggered Noah was one opining that if the person didn't have a firewall, he should assume he HAS been hacked. A little broad of a brush, perhaps, since it is possible to secure a system such that a firewall adds nothing (one would hope, for instance, that one's firewall is that secure), but I think we can conclude that any user who makes it clear in his post that he doesn't even know where his MTA's logfiles are kept probably would benefit from a firewall. As long as he doesn't assume firewall == secure, of course. Apologies to Noah for calling him a troll. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpNVGs6hbaLr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: view output of process while
begin James Hook quotation: If you do find a way of getting the output from a process without doing logging/screen please share, as every now and then theres a stray process that I want to know what its doing/outputting. It won't do what you're asking, but it may do what you need: Package: strace Priority: standard Section: utils Installed-Size: 216 Maintainer: Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Architecture: i386 Version: 4.4-1.2 Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.3-7) Filename: pool/main/s/strace/strace_4.4-1.2_i386.deb Size: 72036 MD5sum: e1418909c3163549c226035b088a9275 Description: A system call tracer. strace is a system call tracer, i.e. a debugging tool which prints out a trace of all the system calls made by a another process/program. The program to be traced need not be recompiled for this, so you can use it on binaries for which you don't have source. . System calls and signals are events that happen at the user/kernel interface. A close examination of this boundary is very useful for bug isolation, sanity checking and attempting to capture race conditions. This is one of the ways to find out what a process is doing if you can't get a controlling terminal for it. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpmWsq3VjnnU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Verifying file permissions
begin Andy Saxena quotation: I was wondering if there is any way to verify the file permissions on the files installed by debian packages. Depends; what do you mean by verify? -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpqFaTYLubAq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: debian for embedded...original playstation
On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, java guru wrote: want Linux on that hardware, you're likely going to have to do all the gruntwork yourself. Good luck! -- Baloo Sony's official port is available in Japan already. US kit starts shipping May 22. It's not Debian, but it is Linux, and with that hardware, it oughta be possible to port Debian. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpMI9rJMDh9S.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Running Yahoo Messenger??
begin Hall Stevenson quotation: FWIW, they automatically provide a bulk mail filter that catches most unwanted e-mail. You don't honestly think that they filter out the spam sites to which they sell your information, do you? -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpr9fWmxbIHk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Upgrade to woody
begin David Smead quotation: http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/ says . . . testing's gone mainline! Point apt at the new testing distribution (or the old woody distribution) on your favourite Debian mirror. man sources.list point apt at the new distribution doesn't mean type the word testing in a randomly-chosen spot on the command line. It means configure apt to point to the new distribution. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpgOeQd4ugbw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Alternative to DEBIAN-CD
begin Daniel Mashao quotation: messages (if they were error messages at all :) ). All I want is a program that will take the address of the mirror site, the dist I want, and say get woody for me. Have the program get it. Simple. So are there any alternatives to debian-cd? If that's all you want it to do, then the program you are looking for is ftp. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpLyPdCKaiIA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Samba alternative
begin Alex Malinovich quotation: I've heard that SMB isn't really the greatest protocol for file sharing between systems on a LAN. I've also heard good things about Coda and a few strong-points about NFS. What would you all suggest? Sticking with Samba is easy enough as it's already configured, but if it's not the best thing that I could be using, I'd rather switch to the best. TIA. SMB is the best protocol for serving Windows clients, simply because it's the best-supported one in Windows. All Windows NFS clients suck. SMB isn't what you want to use for serving Linux or UNIX clients, but it can peacefully coexist with Samba. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpQd8zXiRsHh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Running Yahoo Messenger??
begin Noah Sombrero quotation: Go to the Yahoo web site and establish an identity there. Or, better yet, don't, since that's an email harvesting service for spammers now. And even a telephone number harvesting service for telemarketers, if you happen to give them your phone number. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpOBTpA4H1V6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Linux Universal Instant Messaging Client?
begin Michael Kahle quotation: Once again, I answered my own question. GAIM seems to now be able to do them all! :) Lucky me. But how about a similar program GPLed written in Java? And with all the files named halibut-x, where x is a prime integer. This is a Debian list; Gaim will do everything you asked and runs on Debian. Don't be so picky. :-) -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpMynbnEvYLm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again
begin Russell Coker quotation: That's another thing. If you buy an older model card in a tiny box with no manuals etc for $150 and it melts you're not going to be nearly as unhappy as if the same thing happens to a high-end $700 card that came with all manuals etc. If you're paying $150 for an old card with no manuals, that better be old as in six months old. You can get most of the previous-generation video cards for less than that WITH manuals, new in the box. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgp4Ood5CLbu8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ispell
begin Arthur H. Edwards,1,505-853-6042,505-256-0834 quotation:
/usr/lib/ispell
is gone. I have tried installing, removing and installing, purging and
installing. So far nothing has worked.
dpkg -L ispell
...will show you what files are in that package. There are none in
/usr/lib/ispell. Installing it multiple times won't change that.
apt-cache show ispell
...will show you details about that package, including the following:
No dictionaries are included in this package.
Ispell looks in /usr/lib/ispell/default.{aff,hash}
and in /usr/share/dict/words by default. Those
files may be provided, respectively, by an
ispell-dictionary package and a wordlist package.
(You must have an ispell dictionary before you can
use ispell; a wordlist is only required for ispell's
(L)ookup command.)
apt-cache search ispell | grep dictionary
...will output a list of available dictionary files, some of which
might not be actual ispell dictionaries, but it'll tell you enough to
proceed.
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