xserver will not start after dist-upgrade
Hi, yesterday evening I did a dist-upgrade. Now the xserver is not starting anymore. I have lenny, testing and unstable deb packages in my sources.list and dist-upgrade pulled in 7.4 of xserver-xorg. I tried to downgrade to xserver-xorg to 7.3, but the server ends with the same message. There is a backtrace mentioning libc.so.6 and I did some googling to see if I could find a solution, but it seems that the problem is elsewhere. I run on a Lenovo T61 with Intel graphics. It is about a week since I did my last dist-upgrade, so the introduction of the error must have happened since that. I also got the perl error mentioned in another mail on this list. Did not find any references to any xserver problems on the -dev mailinglist. Did also not find a bug description on bugs.debian.org when I searched for xserver-xorg bugs. Anybody experienced this or have a solution. -- Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: xserver will not start after dist-upgrade
2009/9/29 Svenn Are Bjerkem svenn.bjer...@googlemail.com: Anybody experienced this or have a solution. I found my own answer after some more googling: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=548724 wasn't enough to google for xserver-xorg, there should also have been some intel words in there. Since the fix is in experimental, it will probably appear in more stable versions sooner or later. -- Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: ia32-apt-get or libc6-i386 on amd64, debian sid?
2009/7/19 MRH misiek_s...@o2.pl: I'm pretty confused with the latest changes in sid on amd64. Do ia32-* packages replace -i386 packages or they are alternatives? After 'upgrading' to ia32-apt-get I lost wine (however I found there is ia32-wine, which unfortunately is not displayed in synaptic and I'm not sure if it replaces wine, then what will happen if there will be 64bit wine?), picasa, googleearth and some other packages. Backend is moving in the direction of multi-arch packages. This is an attempt to bridge the gap until that happens. Should I purge ia32-* and reinstall libc-i386 or wait? I installed ia32-apt-get and got my wine back after $ ia32-apt-get update $ ia32-apt-get install ia32-wine and to fix a warning about internet access $ ia32-apt-get install ia32-libnss-mdns The applications I installed via wine before the hickup works just like before. The version of wine installed is 1.0.1 as is the same as I had before. Then what I understood reading ia32-apt-get doc and some previous post it is supposed to be updated / upgraded separately to the apt-get and I assume it won't be included / supported in synaptic? That's the way I understood it too, unless synaptic implements support for ia32-apt-get flow. It is anyway supposed to be a bridge towards a better world, but it seems that the developers are not agreeing on how to do it. The implementer seems to be a little bit alone against the rest of the arguing world on debian-devel and everything seems to be a little bit uncertain at the moment. I got my wine back, and for the time being I am only using 32-bit windows applications from wine. -- Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: First general purpose unmoderated newsgroup for Debian
On Sunday 05 September 2004 01:52, Paul Johnson wrote: I'll just hand the cluebat off to Karsten for this one, since he's answered it quite nicely already from the last time some pinhead got upset at established standards. http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Rants/gpg-signed-mail.html Interesting reading, the encryption is standardized, but it is not standardized that you have to use it in places where it doesn't make sense to use it. In my opinion it doesn't make sense to sign emails on a mailing list. But, it is your right to overdo just as much as I can tell you that you overdo. cu -- Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: First general purpose unmoderated newsgroup for Debian
On Friday 03 September 2004 19:05, s. keeling wrote: Well, that's the dumbest thought I've seen in a while. I've seen more signed posts to Usenet than I see in mailing lists. Then we don't hang out on the same usenet groups, I understand, because I really can't agree on that statement. And arguing that everybody does it so why stop, is just as dumb. cu -- Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: First general purpose unmoderated newsgroup for Debian
On Friday 03 September 2004 19:11, Paul Johnson wrote: People sign their messages on Usenet as well. If you don't like PGP or GPG, that's a personal problem that you need to take care of on your own. Oh, so it is a personal problem... Well, I am taking care of it: I am asking those who do to stop. But they don't seem to be willing to listen, or even try to understand the problem they may cause by their arrogant behaviour. I can't hit you with a big stick, so there is no reason to speak softly, you wouldn't care anyway. Would you? Why do you need to sign all your mails to a mailing list? Are you afraid that we wouldn't take you seriously unless you did so? Kind regards, -- Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: First general purpose unmoderated newsgroup for Debian
On Tuesday 31 August 2004 22:01, Paul Johnson wrote: Why fracture and duplicate the effort already taken care of by lists.debian.org? Because we are fed up with people using pgp and gpg on emails to mailinglists. -- Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: First general purpose unmoderated newsgroup for Debian
Paul, can you turn off this pgp crap? It is annoying On Wednesday 01 September 2004 01:04, Paul Johnson wrote: #secure method=pgp mode=sign -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBNQPnUzgNqloQMwcRAuizAKC6vHzyJTWQeawSAN2SOHsUSdFLxgCfWCLM xUNSlNy1GQ5a4gsKiQQ61nY= =APKT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFC: Create d-user-woody, d-user-sarge maillists, deactivate d-user
On Monday 01 December 2003 11:28, Hereon wrote: 1) The Debian user community is substantially suboptimally served with the existence of the current debian-user list. As some debian users post to debian-user without being subscribed, they request to be cc'ed by the helpers. As said users may not have a relation to how questions are best asked, It could be a solution to implement a very simple front-end to debian-user from the lists.debian.org. Said front-end could be implemented as a web page like the search on packages.debian.org thus offering the user a possibility to select the version that s/he uses, architecture and a fine selection of frequently used topics. The said user will also be offered a space to type an answer email address and a larger text area where s/he can write the question. Upon submit of the form, an email will be placed on the debian-user with propery formatted subject and keywords in the email body. This will happen only if a valid reply address i submitted. Replying to the email also send an email to the reply address that the user entered. If it is feasible, X-headers could be set to ease filtering. As a newcomer user it is always welcome to use a form that guide the process of asking a question. One can even take this idea further so that not only debian-user is the target: When the mail has been submitted, the server can route the email to, say debian-kde, due to selections that the user has made during the process of asking the question. An email confirming the question to be sent, to which list, and a possibility to cancel the post will then be sent to the person asking the question in order to avoid misuse of email adresses. If a person want to ask his question in a specific language other than English, he can be offered a list of languages to which the question will be routed. In order to support people who often want to use the form, a cookie with the last settings can be saved to ease the process of filling in the form. As a comment at the end: I have not thought very much about the extra load on the server. I have not thought very much about breaches and security risks. It is just a suggestion for a way to keep the number of debian mailing lists low, give supporters a possibility to filter and for the user a friendly start with debian. -- Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: system reboots before booting
On Wednesday 13 August 2003 21:28, David Fokkema wrote: Hmmm... this looks good as far as I can see... What I don't understand is that lilo complained that the map file and the boot sector were on different drives. I _never_ got that error. However, it might mean nothing... It means nothing. It is just a warning I got the same message during the same problem after moving my stuff from hdb2 to hda2 because I got a new and better disk. I downloaded source of lilo and checked the particular warning message. lilo store the bios number of the harddisk in root in bios_root and the bios number of the boot device in bios_boot and if you use a floppy it has bios number 0x00 and the bios_root will have , say 0x80 and these two numbers are checked with a == against each other. Unless the nowarn flag is set, the message is printed. I was wasting many hours trying to track my problem back to this message. -- Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Alsa and Realplayer
On Wednesday 14 May 2003 10:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problem 2: ... Problem 3: Hi, used to have a working sound system before 2003-05-14, then did dist-upgrade on unstable/testing and lost sound. performed an dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base and got sound back. Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Centrino [OT]
On Sunday 23 March 2003 01:22, Robert Storey wrote: The situation could change in the future, but for now it's like this: It has to. As in the article pointed out, Centrino is a /chipset/, Pentium M, or Banian as its nickname is, is the new processor that will bring uptime to laptops. In order to have the Centrino sticker on your product, you have to buy all the crap Wi-Fi stuff. Another reason why Intel needs to invest so much money into the marketing campaign: For years, they have marketed that clock speed is the key to success. Now Pentium M come with less clock speed with same performance as a Pentium IV because Pentium M do the job more intelligent than Pentium IV /and/ with a Wi-Fi chipset it save space and even more power. No wonder they need to waste $300 million to change their MHz doctrine when they /also/ bundle outdated crap with new technology. I say /crap/ because the Wi-Fi standard integrated is not the new fast 803.11g but an older one (I may have got the standard number wrong) Once upon a time Intel did an exellent marketing golden goose: Intel inside. Now they try to outperform themselves /and/ at the same time state that they are going to. Maybe they should change Marketing IV with a Marketing M. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [SOLVED]Re: Upgrading to Sid Via Apt-Get
On Friday 21 March 2003 19:00, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: Greg Madden wrote: snip Change stable to unstable. - -- Greg Madden -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+e0vkk7rtxKWZzGsRAr47AKCk4ML/qd72IAJQVKSraacPJ1ygxQCgnh/k SwXY7KAxg1P642+5CikG4Mk= =+kCm -END PGP SIGNATURE- Thanks guys. Sorry for the dumb question. Dear Sir, I would suggest that you delete the signature (but the name) of the original poster when replying to a mailing list like debian-user. In this case at least the PGP signature. The content of this email is not such that it really need pgp encryption anyway. Please see this as a friendly advice. It is up to you if you want to pay notice. -- Kind regards, Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Averiguar Kernel
On Friday 14 March 2003 16:36, Emilio Murcia wrote: En un terminal introduce I recomend http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish -- Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bad Debian (L.A.H.)
On Sunday 09 March 2003 18:10, J. Lambrecht wrote: Sigh, and now i now why Debian's not for kids By reading a book? Then I recomend a couple of books by Alex Comfort. Should give you a real jump start to life. Don't believe anything you read and only half of what you see. -- Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian spammed
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 19:14, Carla Schroder wrote: $100 cash reward for the inventor of an infallible spammer brain burner. $500 if I get to pull the switch Quick money that fast This must be spam. -- Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel: lp0 on fire ????
On Thursday 06 March 2003 23:16, Mark L. Kahnt wrote: And if there is lots of heat, light and smoke, get the fire extinguisher - it is not *totally* impossible for printers to catch fire. Old, very fast line printers could catch fire if the paper jamed while the printer still wanted to spit out paper. If this is the reason for implementation is another case. -- Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Kernel - No Network
On Saturday 01 March 2003 23:09, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: For 8139 cards, ne2k-pci will NOT work. You need the rtl8139, or 8139too drivers for RTL 8139-based network cards (they are 100mbit/s nics). Hi, as I used to use SuSE before Debian I visited old friends: http://sdb.suse.de/en/sdb/html/mjb_rtl8139_24.html I think this is the answer to my problems, and the answer has been around since 2001. Is there a Debian SDB somewhere? There /are/ reasons for supporting SuSE, guys. Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Kernel - No Network
On Sunday 02 March 2003 18:57, Svenn Are Bjerkem wrote: On Saturday 01 March 2003 23:09, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: For 8139 cards, ne2k-pci will NOT work. You need the rtl8139, or 8139too drivers for RTL 8139-based network cards (they are 100mbit/s nics). ^ An apology to all: I think I mixed up, but this info was crusial to solving the problem as I have a 10MB/s net: After seeing that there is no alias eth0 in debian modules.conf file setup, I less'ed my /proc/pci telling me that: Bus 0, device 17, function 0: Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8029(AS) (rev 0). A quick modconf for ne2k-pci actually loaded and inserted the nescessary module in /etc/modules. Now I have a happy new kernel with net support again. Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian security support for older versions
On Friday 28 February 2003 11:26, Paul Johnson wrote: Why is obscelesence somehow a surprise to people? Because you don't expect your vacuum cleaner to need a new hose every 3 years... ? Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: adding eth1
On Friday 28 February 2003 21:53, Nathan E Norman wrote: First, I have to mention that I hate rtl8139 cards :-) Would you care to tell why? I want to buy one... Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Kernel - No Network
On Friday 28 February 2003 23:22, Gary Hennigan wrote: Using make xconfig in the kernel-source directory, I have the same problem, but upgraded from 2.2.20-compact to kernel-image-2.4.16 and lost connetction to net. The 2.2.20 was installed with woody from cd with lots of extra modules in /lib/modules. The kernel-image update did not bring any net modules with it. Are they located in a different package? Which? (dselect didn't say anything about depending on other modules for kernel-image, only that initrd thing.) Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: secondary root account
On Friday 28 February 2003 18:47, Craig Dickson wrote: them a reason why you refuse to give it to them. (To me, I'm responsible for this machine, so I'm not going to have other people mucking around on it as root would be a good reason.) Holiday replacement. Sickness replacement. Sacked replacement. Bastard Operator From Hell replacement. Incompetent University snotass replacement. There are reasons, and reasons will grow as linux hits business. The suits never trust geeks. Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian security support for older versions
On Saturday 01 March 2003 16:07, Paul Johnson wrote: Software != household appliances They are placed next to each other in many stores. Now even grocery stores offer PC's. Milk, eggs and XP2003 ... Darwin says: Adopt or die. Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Kernel - No Network
On Saturday 01 March 2003 19:08, Nathan Malmberg wrote: The network modules should come with the kernel image package, but rather than in the net directory of the 2.2 kernels, the 2.4 kernels place them in kernel/drivers/net. Yeah, you're right. There is no rtl8139.o driver in my .../net directory, but there was a ne2k-pci.o module. I've heard that that one should also work. Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian security support for older versions
On Saturday 01 March 2003 22:44, Nathan E Norman wrote: I don't think you could have chosen a worse analogy. Read the thread again. I was replying to Paul Johnson who could not understand that people can need security support for more than three years. To you I would say that Moores law relates to number of transistors, not to software nor the technology they implement. To clear my analogy: As long as the hose is on the vacuum cleaner, some people expect the whole system to work, cleaning personell rely on it for their professional work. If there is an embedded system out there running debian, then maybe somebody is relying on that thing to work for a long time /and/ stay secure against hackers. The security update feature of Debian is a reason to use it. Don't make ignorance a reason not to use it. Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie administrator
On Saturday 01 March 2003 22:51, Nathan E Norman wrote: Will: think recursively in order to answer both questions. For there to be a reasonable use of recursion it has to have a stopping condition. GNU and RUTE does not have a stopping condition, hence it is not reasonable to use any of them. Read it and smile. Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: manglement-compatible comparison of SuSE vs. Debian
On Thursday 27 February 2003 12:15, Paul Johnson wrote: this is particularly bad (I'm not used to SuSE), though this has nothing to do with being German. But seriously, if you had the choice between apt-getty goodness and anything else, which would you pick? Heck, I wish I could use apt-get on reality. Then who would control your sources.list file? The americans? With SuSE I could work, with debian I spend more time upgrading KDE to 3.1 than I like. Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with kernel 2.4.20
Upgrading alsa-modules caused an upgrade to kernel-image-2.4.16. I now boot the 2.4.16 but have no access to net. ifconfig does not show eth0, and an modprobe rtl* is installing an USB module and not the ethernet module. I fallback on 2.2.20 which seem to have a net/ dir in /lib/modules/2.2.20-compact which 2.4.16 has not. How do I tell the kernel to load the ne2k or rtl8139 driver (That's the net card I have) Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gamepads
On Thursday 27 February 2003 19:25, Gianfranco Berardi wrote: Any suggestions? People have suggested MS Sidewinders, which I will consider, but I wonder if a cheaper solution exists (correct me if I am wrong, but I last remember it going for $25-$30 (USD)). Is the Sidewinder Strategic Commander supported on linux? I just bought one as it was Eur 19.90 only, and seem to have the possibility to have loads of button combinations. Could be cool for reading email. (Control is by left hand, so the right hand can be free for writing small paper notes ...) Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian-user as mbox format available?
Hi, anybody having the debian-user mailinglist as mbox format file? I look for info using the web but I get kind of tired of the HTML based archives. I'd like to have the discussions in threads where I can keep the useful ones and delete the useless. So far I haven't been able to find any archives carrying the mail traffic as plain mbox format. Any security reason for this, or is everybody happy with HTML? Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hen and egg with tktable-dev
Hi, want to install tktable and tktable-dev and use tk8.4-dev tktable-dev need tk8.3-dev tk8.4-dev provide tk-dev tk8.3-dev conflict tk-dev So if I want tktable-dev I have to deinstall tk8.4-dev with which I want to develop. any opinions? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian-user as mbox format available?
On Sat, 2003-02-22 at 17:31, Colin Watson wrote: On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 05:05:16PM +0100, Svenn Are Bjerkem wrote: Hi, anybody having the debian-user mailinglist as mbox format file? This is bug #161440/#172658 against listarchives. Didn't know that a wish can be classified as a severity in a buglist, but, obviously, it can. As it seems to be a very slow progression with the bugfixes in severity level wishlist, I ask if anybody on this list, who have the debian-user mailing list as mbox, and possibility to offer it as a gzip download (I don't want my mailbox flooded with copies.) If you could provide me with the mails from jun 2002 and until now. I would apreciate very much. Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian-user as mbox format available?
On Sat, 2003-02-22 at 17:53, Hugh Saunders wrote: So far I haven't been able to find any archives carrying the mail traffic as plain mbox format. if you subscribe, you will soon have a [very] phat mbox archive... that is if you choose to store it in mbox rather than Maildir. I have subscribed, but I would like to know what has already been discussed on this list before I subscribed. I have used the search machine on lists.debian.org, but I hate to navigate through emails with a web-browser, and I have to be online. I have got the info that the mbox format has already been wanted by other people for around 150 days now. For me it is impossible to contribute as I do not have the database. It is really cool when google indexes all the mirrors of lists.debian.org. :-( Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
