Re: Debian on Thinkpad 560x...
D. W. Wieboldt wrote, :Yes! Hamm runs just fine here on stinkpad 560. Also have it on a 760L. :All of this pre-dates hamm installation disks though. Brought them up on :bo disks, and made the libc6 conversions. I don't do dselect either but :rather dpkg -i for each package. I guess this may just have to be the way if all else fails... I'm still trying to get a good set of boot-floppy from my other hamm machine though... Latest update seems to be that bzImage reboots the machine when a similar zImage boots fine (up till the point when the kernel panicked due to no file system :P). I wonder why the same configuration on built on the boot floppy didn't work. Will update the list when I get more results... Just me, Wire ... -- Tan Wee Yeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] For PGP public key : finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP fingerprint = EC A6 98 25 5B D9 38 40 74 BC 0C C9 0F 81 BE 92 -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on Thinkpad 560x...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, :: Nuts... how did that evade me?? I had tried as you suggested :: and it booted up just fine :)... is there anywhere I can get :: the configuration for the Tecra kernel so I can build one :: for hamm?? :I believe the part that makes them work on Thinkpads is the fact they're :built as zImage rather than bzImage. For some reason bzImage :kernels cause Thinkpads, and many other laptops, freak out during boot. :If you use kernel-package you can still generate a zImage ... I forget :exactly how. Otherwise, just do make dep; make clean; make zImage ... :as usual. make-kpkg --zImage ... I created a set of boot-floppies with Bruce's boot-floppy package and another test bootdisk (using the same kernel configuration). The boot-floppies hang on me after the loading linux.. but I manage to advance to beyond the scroll of kernel boot messages until I got a kernel panick (due to no root device). Any idea?? If possible, can anyone advise on how I can get the configuration of the bo-tecra boot-disk... or has anyone successfully installed hamm on the thinkpad (esp 560x). Thanks again... Just me, Wire ... -- Tan Wee Yeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] For PGP public key : finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP fingerprint = EC A6 98 25 5B D9 38 40 74 BC 0C C9 0F 81 BE 92 -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian on Thinkpad 560x...
Dear all, I have just gotten a thinkpad 560x and would like to put debian (preferably 2.0) in. My previous attempts were taunted by the system rebooting upon loading the kernel (it passed the LILO prompt). I located the linux on tp560 homepages. Success was reported on the tp560x but I did not manage to catch the authors of the page by email. The problem is probably due to the apm incompatibility discussed in the page. I suspect my best bet will be to create my own bootup floppies. I am soliciting information on kernel configurations that will work on the thinkpad. TIA Just me, Wire ... -- Tan Wee Yeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] For PGP public key : finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP fingerprint = EC A6 98 25 5B D9 38 40 74 BC 0C C9 0F 81 BE 92 -- The configuration of the tp is: P233MMX + 64 MB RAM + 4 GB Harddisk + standard IBM external floppy + XirCom CEM56/100 (means I need PCMCIA 3??) -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Book for writing shell scripts.
Shaul Karl. wrote, :Aren't there web sites with good beginers' staff ? Try: http://www.emerson.emory.edu/services/unixhelp1.3/\ Pages/scrpt/index.html There is another site called the geek-girls but I dun seem to have the url handy. Just me, Wire ... -- Tan Wee Yeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] For PGP public key : finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP fingerprint = EC A6 98 25 5B D9 38 40 74 BC 0C C9 0F 81 BE 92 -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Unidentified subject!
Daniel J. Mashao wrote, : I am running a Pentium system with a PS/2 Mouse port. I am unfamiliar with : Linux and cannot get my mouse to respond. I am just a newbie... Could : someone please tell me a little about how linux locates and assigns : resources for a mouse? :You probably need to compile ps/2 mouse support in the kernel. I would :think that ps/2 mouse support should be included in the default kernel but :I guess its not. ps/2 support is compiled as a loadable module under Debian's default kernel. Try modconf as root. psaux (port for ps/2 mouse) should be enabled thru misc-psaux This should enable the support for ps/2 mouse without the need to reboot your system (cool!! :-). Just me, Wire ... -- Tan Wee Yeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] For PGP public key : finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP fingerprint = EC A6 98 25 5B D9 38 40 74 BC 0C C9 0F 81 BE 92 -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Auto Responder
Alex Yukhimets wrote, :Well, may be I did not understand the original meaning, but I meant the :piece of software able to answer your e-mails automatically. : Check out vacation on the bsdmainutils pacakge. Just me, Wire ... -- Tan Wee Yeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] For PGP public key : finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP fingerprint = EC A6 98 25 5B D9 38 40 74 BC 0C C9 0F 81 BE 92 -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [OFF-TOPIC] RC5 challenge Config Performance
Tan Wee Yeh wrote, :Indeed it does but we have a lot of catching up to do... Apple's :rate is currently 6 time that of ours... pls refer to: : http://rc5stats.distributed.net/emtop100.idc :I'm pumping in 1 alpha500 + 2 PPro 200 + 1 P200mmx. Bad news, this does not seem to be running. I checked the process and the guy is kinda stalled. Anybody successfully ran the client for an OSF?? Just me, Wire ... -- Tan Wee Yeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] For PGP public key : finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP fingerprint = EC A6 98 25 5B D9 38 40 74 BC 0C C9 0F 81 BE 92 -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [OFF-TOPIC] RC5 challenge Config Performance
Tan Wee Yeh wrote, :Bad news, this does not seem to be running. I checked the :process and the guy is kinda stalled. Anybody successfully :ran the client for an OSF?? Turned out to be my own mistake :P I had some wrapper around this so I have to resort to the telnet port before it works. Looks ok now. Just me, Wire ... -- Tan Wee Yeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] For PGP public key : finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP fingerprint = EC A6 98 25 5B D9 38 40 74 BC 0C C9 0F 81 BE 92 -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [OFF-TOPIC] RC5 challenge Config Performance
Nicola Bernardelli wrote, : Just a P90 here, dial in PPP 2-6 times a day. It has been doing that :only task this night (and so will in the next ones) and in about 7 hours :it seems it has done 12 blocks and 50% of another. : In these days I have to read tons of docs, debian and PostgreSQL, and :do a very few things computationally expensive. Before I used my idle time :running pov to build up some stereoscopic sequences from xaero and test :some kind of decoupage when assembling different points of view. But :this challenge is exciting, it may be won by the Linux community indeed, I :think, if even a relatively small part of us gives some CPU-time. :Bedises, the RC5 client does not really appear to affect what is being :done in non-idle time, it must be practically stopped when anything :else is being done. Indeed it does but we have a lot of catching up to do... Apple's rate is currently 6 time that of ours... pls refer to: http://rc5stats.distributed.net/emtop100.idc I'm pumping in 1 alpha500 + 2 PPro 200 + 1 P200mmx. Just me, Wire ... -- Tan Wee Yeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] For PGP public key : finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP fingerprint = EC A6 98 25 5B D9 38 40 74 BC 0C C9 0F 81 BE 92 -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Linux in Wired
Ted Harding wrote, :The first sentence I heartily support: when you need to get work done :you are likely to be forced into running an MS-Win application at some :stage and, if you can't run it on Linux, too bad. I would not agree fully with you. I have been off MS-Win for more than 2 years now and do not see a need of going back to it. The only time I needed to use it is when my University requires us to present the statistics in Excel and I almost puke using it. Maybe its becuase all my presentations to date are quite technical and there is no need for flashy stuff. Just me, Wire ... -- Tan Wee Yeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] For PGP public key : finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP fingerprint = EC A6 98 25 5B D9 38 40 74 BC 0C C9 0F 81 BE 92 -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian-lite
Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote, :On Thu, 31 Jul 1997, George Bonser wrote: : What I had in mind to do for the local distribution that I was going to : make was fvwm and a nice set of default menus. The default X install can : be made a little nicer than Debian because I would only give them one : choice X or no X with fvwm installed as the window manager if they : choose it. : :Yes! I think exactly this is the way to go. No many options for little :pieces; just 3 or 4 major decisions should be enough. Building on the above idea, we can actually copy Solaris kind of setup... As a background, (solaris-install??) tries to find out what kind of a system the host is going to be and determines what kind of a setup to use.. so we can have a series of questions (not necessarily in X) that asks: Is this the first time you are installing a Debian system?? (if yes: suggest that they go thru the simple install) . Do you wish to go thru the simple install or dselect?? (if dselect: just fire up dselect eles: continue) . Do you want to install X on this server?? . What video card do you have?? . Is this system connected a network?? . What network card do you have?? . What . Do you want to receive/send mail on this system?? . Is this system going to be a WebServer? (continue to ask a few general questions about the system that everyone who wants a system must know...) (After we are done with the QA, we should have a list of packages to install.. here, we show the uses with a list of selected package and ask if they wish to personalise (aka customise) the packages.) (If customise, fire up dselect else, just install). That way, we can forgo the trouble of setting up a nice UI (additional work??) and at the same time can cater for beginners as well. We just have to ensure that the questions are not excessively complicated (like IP-masquarading??) that they will stump the starters and our suggested setup works. Comments?? :) Just me, Wire ... -- Tan Wee Yeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] For PGP public key : finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP fingerprint = EC A6 98 25 5B D9 38 40 74 BC 0C C9 0F 81 BE 92 -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Cron and dying disk
David R. Kohel wrote, :Someone earlier mentioned a cron job being run at 7:00 AM, complaining :about the heavy CPU/memory usage. I've found another complication. :Does anyone have any suggestions on disk maintance, and how to keep a :flawed disk up? Is this truely a hardware problem? Your problem is unlikely to be that of the cronjob. To the best of my limited knowledge, the ~7am job disk trashes are mainly for system-maintanence stuff (check /etc/cron.daily/*). It is very unlikely these jobs can kill the drive so I'll suspect a hardware fault. :I understand that new hard disks have some measurable frequency of :flaws, but two consecutive disks suggests a very high rate of failure. Hmm.. remember an incident at sunsite.nus. They had a series of disk failures and it turned out that the entire shipment of disks was damaged. The Computer Center speculated that probably the entire shipment box was dropped sometime during transit. :The only other Linux user in my department apparently also had a disk :die (RedHat user -- we've covered the major distributions pretty well), :and I would also like to know if there could be some problem with the :the combination of a particular hard disk (or its configuration) and :Linux. I have debian installed in several systems... I'm in the department next door (comp.sc). mail me if you need help :). We have a whole assortment of distributions here as well but people here prefers to stick to redhat or slackware *shrug*. :The university here has no support for Linux users, so they are :only confused when I try to explain that I don't run their installed :Win95/DOG system on the hardware they provided me. Sad isn't it. A free beautiful os wasted in favour of buggy commercial bloatware. They are switching to NTs but I doubt they are very much too secure. NUS, like most other organisations, seems to like MS and loves to PAY (literally) for their mistakes. Just me, Wire ... -- Tan Wee Yeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] For PGP public key : finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP fingerprint = 63 8A 9B 78 3B 1C C2 15 55 EA 2D 42 FF 68 B4 50 -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: bash: make: command not found
David Densmore wrote, :I changed to /usr/src/linux, typed make config and pressed enter. :I received this message: : :bash: make: command not found : :What am I doing wrong? Check that you have make installed: dpkg -l | grep make If not install it. -- Just me, Wire ... -- Tan Wee Yeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] For PGP public key : finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP fingerprint = 63 8A 9B 78 3B 1C C2 15 55 EA 2D 42 FF 68 B4 50 -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Security hole in Debian's /bin/false?
Jesse Goldman wrote, :true or false. Maybe it's an executable on an Alpha? Yep, it is on a DIGITAL Unix. In fact it is a binary file that returns false (1). Just me, Wire ... -- Tan Wee Yeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] For PGP public key : finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP fingerprint = 63 8A 9B 78 3B 1C C2 15 55 EA 2D 42 FF 68 B4 50 -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: X display mode setting.
Ralph Winslow wrote, :I've recently added a second Mb to my Trident TGUI9440 board and am able :to use 800x600 (my preferred) resolution by /etc/init.d/xdm stop; :startx -bpp 16. However, following reboot, xdm starts up in 640x480 (I :think) and I can't seem to get into 800x600 mode. My understanding is :that CTRLALTBKSP should do this, but it doesn't seem to work. TIA :for any clue. You might want to take a look at your config file at /etc/X11/XF86Config. Look under the screen section. I suspect the 640x480 is the first option in that section. Moving your prefered option (ie the correct 800x600 settings) above that should achieve what you want :) Just me, Wire ... -- Tan Wee Yeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] For PGP public key : finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP fingerprint = 63 8A 9B 78 3B 1C C2 15 55 EA 2D 42 FF 68 B4 50 -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Xwindows running finally!! what's next?
Ed Down wrote, window manager packages, then change the manager you want in your home directory ~/.xsession Just to be complete, .xsession is for starting X with xdm and .xinitrc is for starting X with startx from shell. What I did was to create a link between the two. Important things to note is that .xsession must be executable before it can work else, xdm might bounce back. Also, note that .xsession does not inherit the user's login shell environment since it springs from xdm. Another thing to note is that the above are for local customisation (user level) for system level, take a look at /etc/X11/window-manager. For those who does a little shell scripts, a look at /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc should be good. twm [background processes snipped] xterm -title Measun10 -geometry 80x40+30+200 -ls Just a little comment (for discussion). Normally, I will prefer to put twm (or whatever windows manager) as the last process (let the others be background). This causes the window manager, rather than other processes, to be the anchor process, so that X kicks the user off when the windows manager quits. I wonder if this is a good practice. Just me, Wire ... -- Tan Wee Yeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] For PGP public key : finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP fingerprint = 63 8A 9B 78 3B 1C C2 15 55 EA 2D 42 FF 68 B4 50 -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Run 2 startx with different .xsessions?
Rick Macdonald wrote, :I run 2 x servers, one at 8 bit and one at 24 (32). : :I can't find any way to have them read different ~/.xsession files, :other than perhaps wrapping the startx's in scripts that overwrite :.xsession before calling startx. : :Any other ideas? Just a sideliner, shouldn't startx be calling .xinitrc instead?? I have a suggestion that may be a little stupid... Instead of wrapping startx with some overwriting command, set it to export some variable (say $BPP) to the color-depth of the session. Then in .xinitrc, do the following. exec ~/.xinitrc.$BPP Then, just store the initrc file for the respective color depth in the respective .xinitrc files. Just me, Wire ... -- Tan Wee Yeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] For PGP public key : finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP fingerprint = 63 8A 9B 78 3B 1C C2 15 55 EA 2D 42 FF 68 B4 50 -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: /home, /usr/local, / and /whatelse?
Brent Hutto wrote, Is there a HOWTO or something that outlines the current conventional wisdom about partitions? If not, can somebody clue me in as to what /usr/local and so forth are used for and why they might be A good guide is the Linux Filesystem Structure (FSSTND) by Daniel Quinlan. There should be a link to this from the debian webpage. Debian's placement of files follow this standard rather strictly. need fall in this category). I don't want a dozen partitions (wouldn't fit on my one 3.2GB disk anyway) but I also don't want to combine stuff that is hard to sort out later. For my case, I have partitions for / /home/ /usr/local/ These was remants from my previous slackware experience. With debian, I dun think I should need /usr/local/ anymore since upgrading is simply dpkg'ing the new package. -- Tan Wee Yeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 63 8A 9B 78 3B 1C C2 15 55 EA 2D 42 FF 68 B4 50 __ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ET6000
Lawrence Chim wrote, Anyone using ET6000? I am going to sell my diamond stealth and buy a ET6000 based card, e.g. Jaton 128. I just want to be sure that X run fine :) I have a machine running on ET6000. I'm using the SVGA drivers from X3.2 (available from debian 1.2). Just make sure you have the Option linear in your device section. The machine is currently running 1024x768x16 with no obvious problems. -- Tan Wee Yeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 63 8A 9B 78 3B 1C C2 15 55 EA 2D 42 FF 68 B4 50 __ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Where to put debian-non-US
Hi, I'm operating a non-us mirror on debian and the site served as a local NFS export point for anybody in my department wanting to install debian. All other subdirectories were good for the NFS install except non-US. May I know which is the appropriate place for it?? (I currently call it ./local/ ) -- Tan Wee Yeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 63 8A 9B 78 3B 1C C2 15 55 EA 2D 42 FF 68 B4 50 __ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
kernel: recognising 64Mb RAM
Hi, I'm terribly sorry as I understand this question has been answer just a few days before but I lost the mail. Thanks a million. -- Tan Wee Yeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 63 8A 9B 78 3B 1C C2 15 55 EA 2D 42 FF 68 B4 50 __ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: dselect/dpkg daydreams
Brian Wrote: Finally, Debian could really benefit from a kind person riding up on a big white 30G drive and giving them a enough space to store a journal of older .deb files (maybe this already exists somewhere?), and optimized binary distributions for different intel processors. The only problem is that all the mirror-operators will have to pray real hard that some equally kind person come riding up to them with an equally sized drive. Since this is unlikely to happen with most of the mirrors less a few really well-known ones, we will either have to download less-optimised code anyway, or overload debian.master with all our ftp requests. (Yes I know there isn't a huge performance difference in some cases but it would definitely be a selling point to some.) Or heck, even someone selling CDs with optimized binaries would be great. I'mnot sure how great performance hit the optimised codes will make but the costs may not justify it... -- Tan Wee Yeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 63 8A 9B 78 3B 1C C2 15 55 EA 2D 42 FF 68 B4 50 __ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian on the shuttle
Why does everyone keep saying that X should look like Win 95. I don't want This I totally disagree!!! I'd rather prefer X to work more like OS/2 :P. AFAIK, win95's interface is not as Object- Oriented (OO) as M$ has claimed. OS/2 users should know. I particularly find win95 difficult to use (I might be from another planet but I do find it awkward). to get into a shouting match about which is easer to use and those people who like the Win 95 look and feel can stick with it. I just don't like the fact that some people feel we should masqurade(?), I feel we should give the option of looking like 95 but is looking like 95 that big of a deal. That's what X is all about... YOU CHOOSE YOUR FEEL!! May your preference be twm/mwm/fvwm/ and the list continues... X is about flexibility. That's why I only have linux on all my working boxes. :) I guess my tiff is not with the people working on making X look like 95 but more with people who compare all operating systems and user interfaces with Win 95. I got fvwm95 for a moment but turned back to fvwm2 very soon. If you'd ask, I'll say that there really is no advantage the 95-like interface have over conventional fvwm2 (no flames intended). It does, however, proof how customisable our OS is over some M$-hype. It may also help newly converted win95 users to feel at home. Just me, Wire ... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
nfs setup
Hi, This is a problem I tried to solve for about 3 weeks without much progress. My intended system setup has a dependency graph as follows... Sys-A -+--: Sys-B ---: Sys-C | | +-+ Where both Sys-C and Sys-B depends on Sys-A for an administrative directory containing the motd and hosts.* and Sys-B contains the home directory for both Sys-B and Sys-C. and Sys-C is a debian mirror. The reason for such an unusual setup involving Sys-A is that the uptime for Sys-B and Sys-C is dependent on the availability of the systems in my lab but Sys-A is consistently up. My problem is in the setting up of the nfs. Sys-B and Sys-C refuse to startup rpc.nfsd. they return the error: nfsd: could not make a UDP socket What is puzzling is that Sys-A's nfsd is up and running without any problem. I have tried copying the kernel to Sys-B and Sys-C to no avail. The intrigueing thing was that Sys-C actually worked twice.. both when I changed the kernel (when I copied Sys-A's kernel over and when I upgraded Sys-C to Debian 1.2). Unfortunately, it only lasted one reboot... afterwhich nothing else I tried worked. rpcinfo on Sys-(B|C) reports: No remote programs registered. Which is funny because `ps -xaef | grep rpc` returns: 712 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/rpc.nfsd INIT_VERSION=sysvinit-2.69 previous=N T 715 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd INIT_VERSION=sysvinit-2.69 previous=N 662 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/rpc.portmap INIT_VERSION=sysvinit-2.69 previous= But if rpcinfo is ran locally, they return: program vers proto port 102 tcp111 portmapper 102 udp111 portmapper 132 udp 2049 nfs 132 tcp 2049 nfs 151 udp823 mountd 151 tcp825 mountd Sys-A and Sys-B are now on Debian 1.1, Sys-C is running Debian 1.2 I will upgrade Sys-B to Debian 1.2 when day breaks but am really reluctant to change anything on Sys-A, (unless Sys-B is willing to work). Things I have tried: 1) (Recompiling|borrowing|stealing) kernels from 2.0.(0|6|27) 2) Toyed with different setting of /etc/exports and /etc/fstab 3) Different settings of rpc.nfsd and rpc.mountd and rpc.portmap 4) Reinstalling Debian 1.1 and Debian 1.2 Can anyone please give any suggestion? Thanks Just me, Wire ... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
problems with ftp-sites
Hi, seems like problems with the ftp sites recurring... master.debian.org:/debian/ is empty again. uiarchive.cso.uiuc.edu:/pub/systems/linux/distributions/debian is outdated.. the rex/disks-i386 has only 1996-11-28 Seems like only ftp.debian.org is still up and running. I don't know about the others as the connections from here is really a drag. Can the relevant people please look into it... Thanks. Just me, Wire ... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
debian pre1.2
Hi, I have just tried debain pre1.2 and have the following comments. 1) Overall, the installation is very smooth with very few hiccups. 2) It seems that most of the kernel options have been compiled-in. This is opposed to the previous version when users are free to configure the kernel after installing it. This results in loading lots of useless modules on starting up, eg, lots of cdrom interfaces. 3) Upon reboot, the installation no longer ask for root password add a default user and go into dselect directly. An experienced user may find this ok but this little automation can really help a novice user. 4) It seems that even though I have xbase3.2 debian files in my directory, dselect does not allow installation of that option. However upon reaching installation of xbase3.1, it prompts if I'd rather install 3.2 instead. Answering yes results in a number of changes to the configuration (i cannot catch all of them) that resulted in a crippled x installation. The above are just minor hiccups I have experienced. All else I have tried worked. Just me, Wire ... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What happened to master.debian.org?
Hi, Think there are some problems with the mirror at master.debian.org:/pub/Linux/Debian. Its empty... I understand that there were some problems with the main site ftp.debian.org a few days ago... is this some side-effects of that? Also, it seems that the mirror at ftp.cdrom.com is really outdated as of 0430 GMT Dec 1, 1996. Just me, Wire ... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NFS installation
I got the first part right *lucky me :) * The systems mounting your nfs volumes do need to have the nfs module loaded though. I couldn't quite understand why that failed. During the 'configure kernel' phase, loading nfs module never worked for me. However, I am able to get the debian-systems to share files (through nfs) afterwards. Since I'm exporting the files to facilitate installation for others in my department, I experimented on another clean machine but failed to mount nfs... The client machine said it did not support nfs... (Although, on debian-user I just noticed one message that modules-2.0.0-14 seems to be not very good, but I guess you're using an older modles version) Indeed I am. From one of the replies, I got that there is some flaws with the nfs module (said its well-known but I'm new here) so I'll try again with pre 1.2 tomorrow. Just me, Wire ... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[NFS] UDP Socket?
Hi, when I tried to start rpc.nfsd, I get the error nfsd: could not make a UDP socket My /etc/exports and /etc/fstab are ok. System setup: Both server and client are running on debian linux 1.1 (kernel 2.0.6). and are meant to share data. Setup is default but I have since edited the /etc/exports and /etc/fstab. rpcinfo on system1 reports program vers proto port 102 tcp111 portmapper 102 udp111 portmapper on system2: program vers proto port 102 tcp111 portmapper 102 udp111 portmapper 151 udp957 mountd 151 tcp959 mountd 5455804171 udp959 bwnfsd 5455804171 tcp961 bwnfsd 1500011 udp963 pcnfsd 1500012 udp963 pcnfsd 1500011 tcp966 pcnfsd 1500012 tcp966 pcnfsd Things I have tried but to no avail: 1) Recompiling the kernel with NFS support (both as module and built-in). The same message as above. 2) Use the latest netstd package Things with unsatisfactory success: 1) Use a friend's kernel, I was able to get the nfs working.. the kernel is 2.0.0 but is minimally setup for nfs support. I tried to recompile but thing failed again. Question: 1) Are there any references I can refer to that might help? 2) What is this UDP socket and what's the use... 3) Is there anywhere I can get a kernel *debian?* that can support nfs? Thanks. Just me, Wire ... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [NFS] UDP Socket?
Hi, Sorry about the previous posting... I solved the problem already.. :) Reason is that the nfs support is not properly initiated for the server resulting in the udp socket not found. Just me, Wire ... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NFS installation
hi, I am using debian 1.1. i am mirroring the whole debian site... hopefully, with that, I can export nfs to all of my U's workstation so they can install debian linux on the fly. I was unable to get the installation kernel to recognise nfs. The option to load nfs support module is given in the filesystem support but I was never able to get it done there. Is there any options I have to set? I tried leaving it blank but results in lots of RPC_???_??? error messages. Any kind souls have succeeded in it? When I failed to install .deb packages through NFS... the system reports that the kernel does not support nfs. I believe this is due to the earlier fault. Overall, I have set up 3 debian system over the last week :) and I must say that the resulting systems are really satisfying. Just me, Wire ... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mailing lists back up
Bruce Wrote: The $1000 charge for advertising (it's not really a fine) is a donation to Debian's still-in-formation corporation, Software in the Public Interest. I doubt I'll be collecting it any time soon, it's mostly a strategy to put off spammers. I love and support this scheme :) It will do well in keeping the list clean of spammers. Maybe it should be extended to things like those get-rich-fast pyramid schemes. One thing though, this list is relatively free of spammers. *maybe I've not been around long enough or is it the people who subscribe to the list* Just me, Wire ... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mailing lists back up
Bruce Wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tan Wee Yeh) [the $1000 charge for advertising] I love and support this scheme :) Maybe it should be extended to things like those get-rich-fast pyramid schemes. What? They're not spammers? I do consider it spam, and advertising, and chargable. Oops.. guess I missed that they are adverts too.. good fine them!! :) One thing though, this list is relatively free of spammers. Because I go after every one. I've also called up the spamware suppliers and have asked them to filter out the debian.org domain. Good work... If only all newsgroups/mailing-list are managed by people like you... Just me, Wire ... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ulimit problem
Normally, limits are not set (ie they're set as the maximum available). If the limits are lower than normal: 1) either you have lshell installed, and there's a configuration file in etc which tells you which are the limits, yep.. got it.. Thanks a lot. That's my first encounter with lshell :) Thanks again... Just me, Wire ... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ulimit problem
Hi, I'm trying to raise the ulimit as an ordinary user. I don't seem to be able to raise any limit above some ceiling, except when I'm root. bash$ ulimit -a ... cpu time (seconds) 3600 ... bash$ ulimit -t 3601 ulimit: cannot raise limit: Operation not permitted bash$ ulimit -t unlimited bash$ ulimit -a ... cpu time (seconds) 3600 ... bash$ ulimit -Ht unlimited ulimit: cannot raise limit: Operation not permitted Anyone knows how I can raise the limits? It doesn't seem to be the problem with Hard/Soft limits but more like priviledges... Just me, Wire ... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
