Re: android connection
On Sunday 13 July 2014 00.26:00 aminos wrote: Nautilus should work fine . Just be sure to put your device as a /Media device(MTP)/ or a /Camera (PTP)/. On 07/12/2014 11:06 PM, François Patte wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour, I don't know anything to android but I have to connect an android device to a computer. It will depend on the device. My Android phone works very simply: connect it, it asks you if you want to turn on USB storage. then you can access the phone as a USB stick. My tablet, unfortunately, is setup to work as an MTP device, I know I had found instructions to access it from Linux (I don't use Gnome, and the device has an SD card, so what I do is transfer with the SD card). Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201407130905.50961.tcou...@decoulon.ch
Re: UEFI
On Thursday 10 July 2014 00.44:20 Steve Litt wrote: And, for eighty bucks more you can get a small (256GB) SSD mounted as /, put nothing on it but /usr and /opt and possibly /boot I would not call a 256 BG SSd small - the biggest I own is 60GB, and all the system runs on it (on a laptop). Anyway, my systems never had /boot + /usr bigger than 50GB, so I could happily save money there :) It's been a long time since I felt my computer was slow, I'm not after winning milliseconds - but that sure depends on what sort of task you do. Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201407100929.51617.tcou...@decoulon.ch
Re: UEFI
On Wednesday 09 July 2014 15.53:22 B wrote: BTW, sorry to hijack a bit this thread, but what could be the advantages to use UEFI (I just have Debian on my laptop and disabled it from ancient posts I read). AFAIK it could be usefull for *very* big disks (but I can't see their use on a laptop). Other than that, I can see only multiboot systems (Hackintoshes need it). I don't really know about Win8 - that I don't have or use. My undestanding is that *pre-installed* Windows 8 require UEFI secure boot. But I once downloaded a test version of Win 8 Enterprise (free from M$) and it installed perfectly (well... as perfectly as Windows can) on the IDE harddisk of an older dual-core machine, with, as far as I know, no UEFI (at least none I could turn on/off). Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201407091649.51935.tcou...@decoulon.ch
Re: UEFI
On Wednesday 09 July 2014 19.49:12 Bret Busby wrote: It is my understanding (and, once again, I am no expert), that two distinct advantages of a UEFI/GPT system ofer what it replaced, are that no differentiation exists, between primary and other partitions, and, a UEFI/GPT system, can have up to 128 partitions. I don't know how many partitions I can create without UEFI/GPT, but the only limitation I ran into was that of *primary* partitions Now, (...) with MS Windows 7 etc, taking up at least 3 primary partitions, on the systems before UEFI/GPT)(...) Then, if a person wanted to instal a version of UNIX, such as a version of BSD, a primary partition was required Well, that's anything but a standard situation. I've only used GPT for Hackintoshes, I stopped using Windows in 1992 (yep, windows 3.0) and I can't figure out why I would install another *nix-like system (except for fun and discovery, but I have enough older computers around to dedicate one to this sort of trial. Any OS that *requires* a primary partition to install is badly coded, or old (or both...). So this for me sums up the question: if your computer is to run linux only (as was the OP's), there is no reason to use UEFI/GPT but for the need for partitions over 2 TB. For complex setups, it may be of interrest. Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201407092213.21617.tcou...@decoulon.ch
Re: Windows and UTC system time
On Saturday 05 July 2014 22.39:57 Doug wrote: Unfortunately, the fix that works in Windows 7 does not work in Windows 8. Microsoft fixed it! --doug One more reason not to use 8. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201407060907.31883.tcou...@decoulon.ch
Re: Windows and UTC system time (was: no subject)
On Sunday 06 July 2014 00.56:04 Bob Proulx wrote: It doesn't solve the problem because twice a year when DST comes and goes what usually happens is that Windows resets the clock and therefore it gets set forward and back twice. I seem to remeber that you could tell Windows (7?) not to care about DST. Not sure. Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201407060920.05413.tcou...@decoulon.ch
Re: Windows and UTC system time (was: no subject)
On Saturday 05 July 2014 21.38:46 Nelson Green wrote: Good afternoon, This morning I had the mis-fortune of creating a dual-boot system with Debian on a machine that already had windows installed on. I installed a second hard drive, installed Debian, and almost everything works. But I apparently told the installer that the system clock is set to UTC, when it is not (because windows has no real concept of time). That's not true. For some reason M$ makes it very complicated, but I have a dual boot system and I have Windows 7 running with system clock set at UTC. Look on the web and you should find how. I find it's a lot better than to run Linux in local time, as far as I am concerned. Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201407052201.05206.tcou...@decoulon.ch
Re: Is grub perfect? (was Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?)
On Saturday 28 June 2014 05.55:39 Rusi Mody wrote: PS. No I am not defending grub2 -- I find its documentation almost non-existent -- just my survival strategies :-) Yes, this is one problem. There are others: - what documentation is existent is not easy to undestand, syntax is complicated. Trial and error is not good when you're playing with your boot manager. - Grub ('s developpers) is patronizing: why make it so difficult to install on a partition? To tell you it's not reliable is one thing, to try and forbid it is another. - Assuming that UUIDs are better is just one way to look at it. That's right for people who add disks to a computer. Clone a disk and you'll be happy you used labels While I do see the power of Grub 2, I too wish we could go back to the efficience and simplicity of Grub 1. And I don't know if this is Grub or the distribution, but I've regularely experienced MS-like behaviour: you tell the installer to put Grub on the root partition, but it does install on your MBR. Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201406280900.30062.tcou...@decoulon.ch
Re: audacious wheezy
On Friday 20 June 2014 10.59:43 François Patte wrote: Bonjour, Does anyone use audacious with wheezy and have it working? Yes, I use it regularely and it works, no problem. Audacious 3.2.4-1 here. Can't remember if I had to do anything special, but I don't think so. I have the debian multimedia repositories setup, however, as well as non-free. Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201406201234.08130.tcou...@decoulon.ch
Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?
On Thursday 12 June 2014 16.20:12 David wrote: On 12 June 2014 16:31, Prunk Dump prunkd...@gmail.com wrote: Moreover some bugs that appear insignificant for a normal Debian user can become critical on entreprise. A simple example is LibreOffice. Some of the tools of the suite does not get the defaut paper size from libpaper or locale. So the print jobs are sended as US Letter instead of A4 and the printers reject them. It's impossible for me to explain to 1013 users how to change the page size. So they think that linux works bad and I'am sad ... I had a perfect opportunity to advocate for libreoffice to a new workplace colleague today. I actually recommended against using it, (even though I use it myself) because if I was to recommend a word processor with a longstanding bug that entirely removes embedded images at random from a document [1] then I feel sure that I would entirely lose the respect and friendship of that colleague. [1] http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/2515/writer-with-pictures-often-fail s/ Never had this one. Reading the thread you give, it look as: - it happens with the Windows version - it happens when you use the *.docx format Now, as far as I am concerned, I can't see the point of using the *.docx format for work, as it is a non-native, non-free format. As to using Windows... My main concern with LibreOffice is that formatting is not consistent if you copen your document on another machine, but th'sts another story. Further, there does seem to be any fix for your bug (in LibreOffice), so how could it be applied on stable? Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201406121703.18649.tcou...@decoulon.ch
Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?
On Thursday 12 June 2014 22.56:27 Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 12 iun 14, 17:03:18, Thierry de Coulon wrote: My main concern with LibreOffice is that formatting is not consistent if you copen your document on another machine, but th'sts another story. Depending on what you mean by formating, I would argue that this is not it's purpose (and neither is Word's). For that you need ps/pdf, preferably with embedded fonts. Kind regards, Andrei Hi Andrei, Maybe I was not clear. I have several machines, all running either the same version of Linux, with (seems) the same fonts, or sometime a slightly different (e.g. upgraded) version of Linux. Or simply I update Libre Office. And every time, I have to reformat the whole document, because the same font does not take the same space. This is frustrating an time consuming. Pictures move, end of page moves, page numbers change... For example I don't update Libre Office before July because I have lots of documents that I probably need to reformat if I update, and I'll do that during the hollyday, for the next school year. I would expect a document to remain the same as long as I stay on the same platform. Of course, changing to Mac or Windows I do expect to reformat (and I use PDF as far as I can). Regards, Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201406122328.46263.tcou...@decoulon.ch
Re: Package system totaly a complete mess
On Sunday 08 June 2014 00.10:02 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 07 June 2014 21:41:17 Slavko wrote: apt-get is quicker than aptitude and has (by the release note) The release notes have not been consistent about which they recommend for a particular upgrade. Both have been recommended on occasion. I prefer aptitude because I know what I am doing with it (sort of) and because I don't have such a plethora of commands: apt-get, apt-cache, apt-file etc. to remember. But I use apt-x on occasion since it is no longer recommended that you should stick rigidly with only one of them. I strongly dislike Synaptic for almost every job. Each to his own. :-) That's one of the things I love about Debian and Linux. Lisi WIth apt-get you must know what to type, this is not easy if you don't use it frequently. Having looked nearer at aptitude, I will sure play with it on some seconcondary machine before typing g g on my main machine because if it removes over 700 packages and I overlooked something, I'd better have a backup (which I do have, actually :). Synaptic is easy to use and it does usually a good job at adding/removing stuff provided with the distribution, but it easily creates broken or problematic situation. My problem, as far as I can track it down, comes from a mix of (personnal) problems: - this was a clean wheezy install - I upgraded my machine to a haswell board, so I had to istall a backport kernel - I also wanted to try different database solutions that required newer libc6 versions, that I had to get from testing I guess no Debian package manager likes this mix of origins. I took a look at pinning, but there is no simple solution there either. Upgrading to a full Jessie might be a solution, but I use (and love, and am not about to change) Trinity Desktop as my DE, and there is no jessie support yet (I could not get the nightly builds to install compeletly). So the problem ultimately comes from a typical Debian problem, which is also one of Debian's plus points (I'm not ranting, it's a fact): Wheezy is a little more than one year old, but developpers didn't stop in 2013. Stable kernel is at 3.12 (longterm), new hardware is being build in our computers. Wether software requires the lastest libraries or the developper just used them I don't know (sometimes just linking the new libname to an an older lib works...). So what I discovered is: don't believe those that say just add this repository and pull that stuff from testing/unstable. While it *may* work, it ends up putting your system in a dead end. This being said, pure wheezy simply can't work on my machine (no graphics, no network, not even a hard disc...) so the only other choice is another distribution until Jessie becomes stable. I can't stand Ubuntu(s), but openSuSE ssems OK (even if i had a hell of a time getting gscan2pdf to work). Zypper and Yast have their problems too, anyway... Life would be boring if there where not the computers :)) Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201406080840.05963.tcou...@decoulon.ch
Package system totaly a complete mess
Hello all, I've lived for years using synaptic and I am no so used to aptitude - and I don't want to make mistakes... Possibly my installation is now in such a state that I should reinstall, but everything *is* working. Anyway: - searching for broken packages gives 0 packages in synatiptic but 6 packages in aptitude. - marking upgradable packages causes both to want to remove lots of things (including parts of cups, Gimp, and of cours all my DE). - If I try to update with aptitude it gives me a liste of packages that should be removed because they are no more used, which is nonsense because most of them ARE in current use. I am thinking all this comes from the fact that I installed Wheezy with Gnome, installed another DE, then removed *parts* of gnome, and the system is thinking because part of Gnome is missing, it should clean up and remove anything that needs it (the list of removal is long, but does include gftp and so). Whats more, the system seems not logical, as it wants to remove Gimp but complains that gimp-data (not to be removed) needs Gimp Any way to bring this mess in order? Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201406070948.44281.tcou...@decoulon.ch
Re: Package system totaly a complete mess
On Saturday 07 June 2014 11.58:41 Slavko wrote: Ahoj, (...) You need to learn one thing - the A mark in the aptitude, eg (rest of lines removed): ilibpam0g-dev i A libpam0g ^^^ (...) Hope this help you. Thanks Slavko. I'm not sure I got everything, but it shows the way to go: learn using aptitude. I'll do that and mybe return to you if I don't get it working. Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201406071222.04417.tcou...@decoulon.ch
Re: fastest linux distro
On Friday 30 May 2014 10.23:42 David Dušanić wrote: 29.05.2014, 23:19, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net: On Thu, 2014-05-29 at 23:07 +0200, Gour wrote: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net writes: A tiling WM isn't a DE. Can you tell me what is missing? It has status bar, systray, launcher, workspaces...ability to launch specific app in a specific workspace. There is upcoming feature to save one's layout. If so, then still resizing and moving windows by the mouse is missing, assumed even this isn't missing, then it's not a tiling WM anymore. Yes, you can resize windows with the mouse but it still tiles windows if you want. i3 is a dynamic (tiling) WM. -- David Dusanic That's like Frank's symphony that was not a symphony because he gave the theme to the wrong instrument in the second movement. Who cares if it's a DE or not if it does all one expects from one? T. de Coulon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201405301254.32594.tcou...@decoulon.ch
Pitivi or Openshot require removing cups !?
I wanted to take a look at Pitivi and Openshot, but both installation require removing *lots* of important things like cups and gimp ?!? I run wheezy, with some backports (required by my motherboard) and a newer version of glibc (to run Master PDF Editor). I can live without these two programs, but I don't understand why installing them needs removing cups, for example. Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201405242330.44761.tcou...@decoulon.ch
Kodak scanner not found or not working
I am new to using Debian itself - I have been using Mepis and Ubuntu. I made a test install of Lenny, and just upgraded to Squeeze. the system seems to be working well, I installed Trinity as a Desktop. My problem is with the scanner. I use a Kodak i1220 that requires tah Kodak drivers, wich in turn require some Mono elements. The Kodak drivers installed OK, but then I discovered that saned was disabled. I enabled it in /etc/default/saned, but I have _big_ problems to find the scanner. Scantwain sometime finds it, some time not. Xsane says no scanner found. gscan2pdf lists the scanner but can't set the optionsa and (mostly) refuses to scan. The same scanner on the same machine works with Ubuntu, so that's not hardware. Could it be linked to the upgrade, possible conflicts? Should I try to install a clean Squeeze? Thanks for any help, Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201102181731.52938.tcou...@decoulon.ch