Re: Esperanto

2010-04-27 Thread Thomas Pomber
There's no need to hurl abuse. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto

"Zamenhof's goal was to create an easy to learn and politically neutral 
language that would serve as a universal second language to foster peace and 
international understanding... There is controversy over the number of people 
who are fluent in Esperanto, with estimates ranging from 10,000 to as high as 
two million."

So it is a secondary language. Everybody who speaks it speaks another, primary, 
language. Isn't it redundant to have a special mailing list for a group of 
people who may be as small as 10,000 worldwide, all of whom speak another, 
major, language?

You seem upset that I would ask. I hope you don't mistakenly think I meant 
Spanish.

--- On Tue, 4/27/10, Robert P. J. Day  wrote:

> From: Robert P. J. Day 
> Subject: Re: Esperanto
> To: "Thomas Pomber" 
> Cc: "Glyn Astill" , debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Received: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 4:14 AM
> Quoting Thomas Pomber :
> 
> > No joke! I honestly wondered why there is an Esperanto
> mailing list.
> 
> For the love of Mutt, will someone please kick this idiot
> off the list and be done with this?
> 
> rday
> 
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Re: Tv card

2010-04-27 Thread Thomas Pomber
So, about that TV card!

I realize this isn't strictly a Debian-related question, as I use Ubuntu on my 
HTPC, but I'm sure it is the same on a Debian system. Is there an easy way to 
get the machine to autodetect my antenna? Is there a command to get it to 
output the name of the device? (The jacks for the antenna are built into my 
Nvidia graphics card.)

Thanks in advance!

--- On Tue, 4/27/10, Thomas Pomber  wrote:

> From: Thomas Pomber 
> Subject: Tv card
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Received: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 1:47 AM
> How do you set up a tv card in
> Mythbuntu? Does anyone know?
> 
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Re: Esperanto

2010-04-27 Thread Thomas Pomber
No joke! I honestly wondered why there is an Esperanto mailing list.

--- On Tue, 4/27/10, Glyn Astill  wrote:

> From: Glyn Astill 
> Subject: Re: Esperanto
> To: "Brad Rogers" , "Thomas Pomber" 
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Received: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 3:25 AM
> It's not that we can't take a joke,
> in moderation, but this is a serious list for debian users.
> 
> I'm sure there's plenty of IT joke mailing lists you could
> join if that's your thing, put please think of the other
> users before filling the list with these posts.
> 
> --- On Tue, 27/4/10, Thomas Pomber 
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Thomas Pomber 
> > Subject: Re: Esperanto
> > To: "Brad Rogers" 
> > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Date: Tuesday, 27 April, 2010, 10:11
> > Now, that's not fair, Mr. Rogers. I
> > also asked about setting up a TV card. 
> > 
> > You have to admit, it's a good question about
> Esperanto.
> > 
> > --- On Tue, 4/27/10, Brad Rogers 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Brad Rogers 
> > > Subject: Re: Esperanto
> > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > > Received: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 3:04 AM
> > > On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 01:49:28 -0700
> > > (PDT)
> > > Thomas Pomber 
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hello Thomas,
> > > 
> > > > It was an honest question!
> > > 
> > > But everything else you've sent to this list
> would
> > indicate
> > > otherwise.
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > >  Regards  _
> > >          / )   
> > >        "The blindingly obvious is
> > >         / _)rad     
> > >   never immediately apparent"
> > > 
> > > I don't believe you have to be an idiot to get
> > somewhere
> > > these days
> > > Bombsite Boy - The Adverts
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: Joke

2010-04-27 Thread Thomas Pomber
Now now... Don't be hatin'. ;)

--- On Tue, 4/27/10, Lisi  wrote:

> From: Lisi 
> Subject: Re: Joke
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Received: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 3:24 AM
> On Tuesday 27 April 2010 09:34:06
> Javier Barroso wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Thomas Pomber 
> wrote:
> > > Yo Debian, I'm happy for you, and I'ma gonna let
> you finish, but Ubuntu
> > > is the greatest operating system of all time!
> > >
> > > Or not! What do you think lol?
> >
> > Please, stop spamming this list
> 
> Javier -
> 
> Little things please little minds.  And I have a
> delete key. ;-)
> 
> Lisi
> 
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Re: Esperanto

2010-04-27 Thread Thomas Pomber
Now, that's not fair, Mr. Rogers. I also asked about setting up a TV card. 

You have to admit, it's a good question about Esperanto.

--- On Tue, 4/27/10, Brad Rogers  wrote:

> From: Brad Rogers 
> Subject: Re: Esperanto
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Received: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 3:04 AM
> On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 01:49:28 -0700
> (PDT)
> Thomas Pomber 
> wrote:
> 
> Hello Thomas,
> 
> > It was an honest question!
> 
> But everything else you've sent to this list would indicate
> otherwise.
> 
> -- 
>  Regards  _
>          / )   
>        "The blindingly obvious is
>         / _)rad     
>   never immediately apparent"
> 
> I don't believe you have to be an idiot to get somewhere
> these days
> Bombsite Boy - The Adverts
> 




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Technical questions

2010-04-27 Thread Thomas Pomber
I can see that some people here are boring, and lack a sense of fun.

So, technical questions only from here on in. :)



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Re: Esperanto

2010-04-27 Thread Thomas Pomber
Oh, really? I was under the impression that Esperanto was a secondary language, 
and was kind of falling into disuse.

It was an honest question!

--- On Tue, 4/27/10, Nuno Magalhães  wrote:

> From: Nuno Magalhães 
> Subject: Re: Esperanto
> To: "debian-user" 
> Received: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 2:45 AM
> 1. Ĉar kelkaj el ni parolas
> esperanton.
> 2. So that people like you can use spamming a mailing-list
> as an
> excuse for a social life.
> 
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Re: Joke

2010-04-27 Thread Thomas Pomber
Ok. What I SHOULD have said was:

Yo Ubuntu, I'm happy for you, and I'ma gonna let you finish. But DEBIAN is the 
greatest operating system of all time! 

--- On Tue, 4/27/10, Thomas Pomber  wrote:

> From: Thomas Pomber 
> Subject: Re: Joke
> To: "Javier Barroso" 
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Received: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 2:36 AM
> I, for one, thought it was funny.
> 
> --- On Tue, 4/27/10, Javier Barroso 
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Javier Barroso 
> > Subject: Re: Joke
> > To: "Thomas Pomber" 
> > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Received: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 2:34 AM
> > On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 9:50 AM,
> > Thomas Pomber 
> > wrote:
> > > Yo Debian, I'm happy for you, and I'ma gonna let
> you
> > finish, but Ubuntu is the greatest operating system of
> all
> > time!
> > >
> > > Or not! What do you think lol?
> > Please, stop spamming this list
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> 
> 
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Re: Joke

2010-04-27 Thread Thomas Pomber
I, for one, thought it was funny.

--- On Tue, 4/27/10, Javier Barroso  wrote:

> From: Javier Barroso 
> Subject: Re: Joke
> To: "Thomas Pomber" 
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Received: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 2:34 AM
> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 9:50 AM,
> Thomas Pomber 
> wrote:
> > Yo Debian, I'm happy for you, and I'ma gonna let you
> finish, but Ubuntu is the greatest operating system of all
> time!
> >
> > Or not! What do you think lol?
> Please, stop spamming this list
> 
> Thanks
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Esperanto

2010-04-27 Thread Thomas Pomber
Why is there an esperanto language Debian mailing list?



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Share your favorite yo mama joke

2010-04-27 Thread Thomas Pomber
I'll start: You mamma's so fat, when the cop saw her on the street corner, he 
said "Break it up, you two!"



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Joke

2010-04-27 Thread Thomas Pomber
Yo Debian, I'm happy for you, and I'ma gonna let you finish, but Ubuntu is the 
greatest operating system of all time! 

Or not! What do you think lol?



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Tv card

2010-04-27 Thread Thomas Pomber
How do you set up a tv card in Mythbuntu? Does anyone know?



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xkcd

2010-04-27 Thread Thomas Pomber
I'm sure you guys all like it, right?



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What kind of music do you like?

2010-04-27 Thread Thomas Pomber
Classical, folk, country, metal... what is it?



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Food poisoning

2010-04-27 Thread Thomas Pomber
One time I ate slimy ham. Man was I sick!



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Ever make your own fstab from scratch?

2010-04-27 Thread Thomas Pomber
You really gotta know your hardware!



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Apt-get a life

2010-04-27 Thread Thomas Pomber
That's what my brother said once: "Apt-get a life." Funny, isn't it?



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How 'bout that privacy policy?

2010-04-27 Thread Thomas Pomber
Ain't it crazy, or what?



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Yum!

2010-04-27 Thread Thomas Pomber
Do you know what's really great? Cutting a lemon in half, squeezing the juice, 
and then filling the glass with orange juice. Mm-mmm!



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None

2010-04-27 Thread Thomas Pomber
What do you guys think about Apple?



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unsubscribe

2004-06-03 Thread Thomas Pomber
 --- Tom Kuiper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 19:19:06 -0400
> > From: Chris Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: what happened to KDE?
> ...
> > Hi.  First of all, there's no need to CC me with
> any of this stuff.
> > I read the list, obviously.
> 
> The way 'elm' parses the header, if I reply only to
> you, no copy goes to
> the list.  So, I do a 'group reply' to pick up what
> is on the Cc: line.
> > 
> > I think the problems you're having are two
> separate problems:  one having
> > to do with the missing KDE session option in gdm,
> and the other having
> > to do with KDE being de-installed.
> >
> OK, you've confirmed my diagnosis.  Right now, if
> you try to get kde
> back, you won't get the core parts.  I trust it will
> be fixed soon.
> 
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2004-06-03 Thread Thomas Pomber
 
 

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Re: KDE upgrade troubles

2004-05-03 Thread Thomas Pomber
This worked for me:

dpkg -r openoffice-de-en
apt-get -f install kde
apt-get install openoffice.org 

Fixed the whole problem.

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> few
> > > weeks back.  My 
> > > laptop is still using KDE 3.1 - the only
> > difference
> > > I have noticed is 
> > > that all of my K-menu items have dissappeared!
> :-(
> > > 
> > > What gives?
> > > 
> > > TIA,
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Re: KDE upgrade troubles

2004-05-03 Thread Thomas Pomber
This worked for me:

dpkg -r openoffice-de-en
apt-get -f install kde
apt-get install openoffice.org 

Fixed the whole problem.

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> few
> > > weeks back.  My 
> > > laptop is still using KDE 3.1 - the only
> > difference
> > > I have noticed is 
> > > that all of my K-menu items have dissappeared!
> :-(
> > > 
> > > What gives?
> > > 
> > > TIA,
> > > 
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Re: KDE upgrade troubles

2004-05-03 Thread Thomas Pomber
Actually, I was wrong.  Upgrading kde while in kde
makes no difference.  Did a fresh install, upgraded
kde to unstable in wmaker, same problem.  Broken pipe,
can't install kdelibs.  Then I lose my entire kde
menu, except for a couple of things.  No programs.

--- Thomas Pomber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've
got the same problem.  Mine says it can't
> install
> kdelibs because of a broken pipe.  Maybe I shouldn't
> upgrade kde while I'm in kde anymore. 
> 
> 
> --- Jonathan Melhuish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > I'm running Debian unstable both on my laptop at
> > home and my desktop at 
> > work.  My desktop upgraded itself to KDE 3.2 a few
> > weeks back.  My 
> > laptop is still using KDE 3.1 - the only
> difference
> > I have noticed is 
> > that all of my K-menu items have dissappeared! :-(
> > 
> > What gives?
> > 
> > TIA,
> > 
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Re: KDE upgrade troubles

2004-05-02 Thread Thomas Pomber
I've got the same problem.  Mine says it can't install
kdelibs because of a broken pipe.  Maybe I shouldn't
upgrade kde while I'm in kde anymore. 


--- Jonathan Melhuish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> home and my desktop at 
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> weeks back.  My 
> laptop is still using KDE 3.1 - the only difference
> I have noticed is 
> that all of my K-menu items have dissappeared! :-(
> 
> What gives?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Jon
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Re: branding debian releases

2004-04-15 Thread Thomas Pomber
I think that will only add to the confusion. 
Operating systems aren't supposed to be esoteric. 
Pick a good name for each (your "future," etc sound
good), and then  write an easy to understand
one-sentence explanation at the download site.

 --- Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On
Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 06:47:42PM -0400, Chris
> Metzler wrote:
> > This thread got started because people were
> frustrated about having
> > to explain stable vs. testing vs. unstable to new
> users trying
> > Debian.  But it appears to me that a lot of people
> with strong
> > ideas on how to fix that don't understand the
> differences themselves.
> 
> this is good evidence that there must be a better
> approach than
> the one we're currently using.
> 
> john doe will read "stable" and might think it means
> that "it's
> got all the current upstream bug fixes" when what we
> mean by it
> is "we stopped adding new stuff to this one a long
> time ago, and
> haven't found any serious conflicts in quite a long
> time".
> 
> john doe will read "unstable" and may think it means
> "not
> stable", whereas what we mean is "probably stable,
> and we're
> working on making it more stable".
> 
> john doe will read "testing" and may think it means
> "experimental" when we intend it to mean "whatever
> isn't stable
> here will be really soon, and it'll be the new
> stable version".
> 
> there's a discrepancy between what a newbie it
> likely to infer,
> and what the old hands have learned to interpret.
> 
> > The web page http://www.debian.org/devel/testing
> explains what testing
> > is.  It isn't what many people in this thread seem
> to be suggesting.
> 
> exactly this confusion could be alleviated by a
> better naming
> scheme. but perhaps we should examine AVOIDING
> descriptive names
> altogether...
> 
> 
> 
> as Tom Massey also has a point:
> 
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 12:14:05AM +1000, Tom Massey
> wrote:
> > I vaguely suspect that renaming the releases won't
> actually
> > solve the problem that it's meant to - reducing
> confusion
> > among new Debian users.  You're likely to just end
> up with a
> > new set of labels to explain. Any name you come up
> with is
> > going to be too short to fully explain the
> situation: call
> > stable 'server', testing 'desktop' for example,
> and you still
> > have to explain that the server release is good
> for desktops
> > if you prefer stability over new stuff, and the
> desktop
> > release might be good for a server if you need
> more recent
> > packages and don't want to search for backports.
> You can't fit
> > all that info into a short name.  I run unstable
> on my desktop
> > machine, stable on my mail server because I know
> what the
> > names mean. Education as to what goes in to the
> various Debian
> > releases is the key, and changing the release
> names doesn't do
> > much for that.
> 
> 
> perhaps instead of trying for
> descriptive-but-too-short a name
> for each layer (stable/testing/unstable) of release,
> we should
> stick to ONLY the colorful code names which will
> give the newbie
> NOTHING to assume about current-vs-stable, and then
> they're more
> likely to traipse over to the description page to
> learn what's
> what.
> 
> i.e. instead of
> 
>   stable / server / rocksolid
>   testing / workstation / almost
>   unstable / cuttingedge / future
> 
> maybe we should avoid the descriptive names and use
> only
> 
>   ...slink
>   ...potato
>   woody
>   sarge
>   sid
> 
> ?
> 
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Re: branding debian releases

2004-04-14 Thread Thomas Pomber
Actually, I think Monique is incorrect for once. 
Unstable is less stable than testing.   But it's the
only way to go, in my humble opinion. 

--- Anthony Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On
14 Apr 2004, Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
> > 
> [snip] 
> 
> > My understanding of the 'testing' distribution is
> in conflict with your
> > description.  Testing is the last to receive
> security updates, and I
> > believe it is more prone to wide-ranging package
> bugs than is unstable.
> > I see it more as a developer sandbox than a live
> distribution.
> > 
> > Am I wrong?
> > 
> 
> I don't know, but I hope so! :)
> 
> I have to admit to keeping up to date with testing
> for well over a year,
> but lacking the courage to make more than occasional
> forays into
> unstable. But if you are right, perhaps I ought to
> change my policy.
> 
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Re: Debian has turned unusable.

2004-04-12 Thread Thomas Pomber
Better yet, use Knoppix.   Or wait a couple days for
the new one.

http://knopper.net/knoppix/index-old-en.html

Easiest and best Debian available.

You're right, though.  It's like M$ trying to push 3.1
because it's so old all the bugs have finally been
worked out, and it's so "stable"...   Many people
would call that "obsolete."

 --- Jim Woodward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: > I suggest you install sarge and immediately
> thereafter install kernel 2.6.5
> "Trollcollect" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Hello list,
> >
> > after 3 days of twiddling with a "recent" copy of
> > debians woody release i need to vent a bit of the
> > anger and frustration that this distribution has
> > caused.
> >
> > I want to start with saying that i was a strong
> > advocate of debian compared to distributions such
> as
> > RedHat and SuSE. Being a UNIX admin professionally
> > (Solaris mainly), i felt home on a debian system
> > pretty quick, and the packaging method was unique
> > among all linux deriatives i have seen. Also i
> used to
> > like debians approach of stability before
> > bleeding-edge stuff.
> >
> > However as i have to install a small network now
> (7
> > WS's and one server), i have to reconsider this
> > assessment. I downloaded woody (2 failed attempts
> to
> > get an installation CD with the new jigdo method).
> > What i got after installation was
> > - a 2.2 Kernel without ext3 support
> > - a KDE 2.0
> > overall totally outdated and useless versions of
> > libraries and software.
> >
> > I then tried to figure out how to update those
> > packages i need in recent versions. As i know KDE
> from
> > Solaris, i trust enough in their own QA procedure
> to
> > consider their 3.2.1 stable enough for usage. Why
> > debian believes KDE 2.0 is more stable, or even
> usable
> > at all, is beyond my understanding.
> >
> > However it turned out that i could not update only
> > selected packages easily. In fact neither of
> dselect
> > or apt-get seemed to have a method to do this in a
> > sensible way.
> >
> > Now it MAY well be that i am just an idiot who is
> not
> > capable of doing this, however i asked in a few
> linux
> > related channels and also at work, noone could
> tell me
> > how to set up a half-way decent debian without
> > compromising the pkg system. Sure many told me to
> > build it all by hand but then, without the
> packaging
> > system what good is debian?
> >
> > I hope that whoever is responsible for the
> direction
> > debian is steering to currently thinks about the
> > target of the whole distribution, which is to
> provide
> > users with a decent linux system that comes
> stable,
> > yet with all neccessary parts to be competetive
> among
> > other distributions.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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kphone

2004-03-28 Thread Thomas Pomber
Does anybody out there know how to use kphone?  For
instance, how do I know what my "User Part of SIP url"
is, or the host part?  And how do I call someone on
their home phone (they say you can!)?

Any help whatsoever would be appreciated.

Thanks

Art

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RE: please read this

2003-10-23 Thread Thomas Pomber
It's called a joke, dumbass.

Not everything revolves around the United States, or
the small minority of its citzens who are idiots, such
as yourself.

Hey Trevor, don't listen to us.  I'm a true believer,
and this other guy's a retard.  I think you better put
something else in your assignment.

--- "Joyce, Matthew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Thomas Pomber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Friday, 24 October 2003 11:03 AM
> > To: trevor brooks; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: please read this
> > 
> > 
> >  --- trevor brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   Hi my name is Trevor Brooks. I go to Gardner
> > > middle school in Lansing Michigan. We have to do
> a
> > > project with donating a dollar to an
> organization.
> > > we have to know where the dollar goes and how it
> > > helps. We have to pretend that we are the dollar
> and
> > > tell where we are going. I was hoping you could
> give
> > > me some info. It would be very much appreciated.
> > > THANK YOU!
> > > 
> > > 
> > >Trevor Brooks
> > 
> > Hi Trevor.
> > (I mean 'dollar.')
> > 
> > You want to know where you are going.  Well, you
> will
> > be happy to learn that you are going toward the
> > destruction of the evil Microsoft.  Yes!  You are
> > helping open-source software, which Microsoft and
> its
> > dreaded, evil, king, Bill Gates hates.  Tell your
> > teacher that you (the dollar) are going toward the
> > destruction of the evil Microsoft empire, and the
> > freedom of computer users everywhere.
> > 
> > I hope you get an A.
> > 
> 
> 
> /s/Microsoft/America
> /s/open-source software/freedom fighter
> /s/Bill gates/George Bush
> /s/computer users/true believers
> 
> > You want to know where you are going.  Well, you
> will
> > be happy to learn that you are going toward the
> > destruction of the evil America.  Yes!  You are
> > helping freedom fighters, which America and its
> > dreaded, evil, king, George bush hates.  Tell your
> > teacher that you (the dollar) are going toward the
> > destruction of the evil Microsoft empire, and the
> > freedom of true believers everywhere.
> 
> /s/Microsoft/Enemies
> /s/open-source software/Democracy/
> 
> etc,etc,etc
> 
> destruction 2
> evil 3
> dreaded 1
> hates 1
> 
> For goodness sake, Debian is a computer operating
> system, not everything is
> a fundementalist conflict.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: please read this

2003-10-23 Thread Thomas Pomber
 --- trevor brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
>   Hi my name is Trevor Brooks. I go to Gardner
> middle school in Lansing Michigan. We have to do a
> project with donating a dollar to an organization.
> we have to know where the dollar goes and how it
> helps. We have to pretend that we are the dollar and
> tell where we are going. I was hoping you could give
> me some info. It would be very much appreciated.
> THANK YOU!
> 
> 
>Trevor Brooks

Hi Trevor.
(I mean 'dollar.')

You want to know where you are going.  Well, you will
be happy to learn that you are going toward the
destruction of the evil Microsoft.  Yes!  You are
helping open-source software, which Microsoft and its
dreaded, evil, king, Bill Gates hates.  Tell your
teacher that you (the dollar) are going toward the
destruction of the evil Microsoft empire, and the
freedom of computer users everywhere.

I hope you get an A.




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Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL (BS)

2003-10-23 Thread Thomas Pomber
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xfwm4 crashes at startup

2003-10-23 Thread Thomas Pomber
Does anybody else know?klaus imgrund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thursday 23 October 2003 04:45, you wrote:> Do you have any idea why the settings manager would> suddenly become inoperable in xfwm4?> > On start-up the background is a black screen, and all> the font sizes have gone back to their default sizes.> The panel tray that is normally a thin bar across the> bottom of the screen has collapsed into a little> square that strongly resembles a waffle. It has also> migrated to the top of the screen. If I right-click> on it, and try to pick any selection from the> right-click pop-up menu, the whole window manager> crashes and I go into gnome. > > Is it the wallpaper or something? It keeps happening> to me over and over, and I don't know how to correct> the problem. It's very frustrating.>  > Thomas Pomber
 >
 Sorry - can't help you there.Never used it and at the moment I got gentoo with gnome 2.4 on this box which is slightly screwed up anyway.You could try to run xfwm4 directly from the login w/o gnome and see what happens.There seems to be a lot of different things breaking with different distros with all that gtk1/2 migration.Sorry,KlausPost your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals

A newbie's confusion about BS

2003-10-22 Thread Thomas Pomber
Okay, I'm out.  I got too many weirdos emailing me
about my dick.  Who are these people?  Leave me alone!

Besides, everybody's picking on the Americans, and
that's way too cliche.  What are you, jealous?  I just
feel sorry for them, because they're starting to
believe their own BS and are allowing their government
to behave like arrogant idiots.

Of course Canada is worse (commies), but you still
have to call a spade a spade once in a while.

Anybody know how to configure the network settings for
Xmule?  Do I use a text editor, or what?

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Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL (BS)

2003-10-21 Thread Thomas Pomber
Fuck off!  Are you serious?
 
Do you think you've got a bigger dick than me, too, just because you're an American?
 
I was talking to this electrician who just relocated here to Canada from Russia, and I was blown away when he told me that they didn't brainwash their people in The Commie Days half as much as the US does today.  Yeah right, I said!  But he said that they never had movies where the Americans were depicted as ignorant morons like you guys do.  Anyway, to make a long story short, the guy's got a point.
 
If you, as an individual, want to remain ignorant, that's up to you.  But don't criticize us for having the courage to think beyond what they tell us on the American news.  
 
And it's not about any of that European bullshit either.  It's about what's true, and what's right. 
 
Peace.Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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 ut the
 first gulf war: on TV, you saw pictures of Iraqis surrendering to TV crews. In the radio room, my friend told me stories of Iraqis walking out of bunkers only to be gunned down.So, if you want to get all pissed off, get REALLY pissed off, cause the truth is 500 times worse than your theories, but don't be mistaken that what's going on Iraq is because we couldn't massacre the fuck out of them. We're holding back, trying to be nice.The whole European "we've evolved beyond war" is an illusion - I can't wait for the next good war you get yourselves into. It'll happen. And I'll be there calling you a baby killer.-- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL (BS)

2003-10-21 Thread Thomas Pomber
Two-cents-worth from Canada:
 
It's nice being a Canadian because you get a little bit of variety in the propaganda you're exposed to, which lends itself to a more well-rounded brainwashing.  You get to pick what bullshit you are going to believe.
 
We sympathize for our brothers in the States who don't have this.  If there's a war, you have this thing where all debate is shut down - supposedly to support the troops.
 
But you are being played.  There was nothing virtuous or honorable about the war in Iraq.  It was a really big guy (the US) picking on a little guy (Iraq).  Whether or not Saddam is an asshole is beside the point.
 
Anybody who supports Bush on Iraq is asking their leaders to lie.  This thing in Iraq is worse for you than it is for Iraq because you guys - the torch-bearers for freedom and democracy - are selling out that which made you great.  And you would prefer to believe your government's BS than think for yourselves.
 
It's pretty sad, really.
 
And the way you permit your President to lie to the entire world (including yourselves) is shameful.  In one day, you threw all the integrity and respect you had out the window - and in the name of blind patriotism you believed the lie.
 
But I suspect American feelings about their military might are over-rated.  For instance, if they gave a shit, China would kick your ass in a war.
 
America has become a bully.  And pride comes before a fall.
 
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Does anyone know how to...

2003-10-20 Thread Thomas Pomber
fix the network settings for Xmule so that it will work properly?
 
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