Re: jessie+kde: how to make gtk apps look better integrated
You just need gtk themes that provide both gtk2 and gtk3 versions. Tim Kelley On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 11:17 AM, lostson wrote: > > > On 05/01/2015 08:55 AM, baldyeti wrote: > > Hello, just trying out debian8 (amd64) with the KDE. > > Looks real good so far, just dislike the bulky scrollbars > > (e.g in iceweasel) > > Can someone suggest what package(s) to install to remedy > > (in earlier releases I think one needed an oxygen theme for > > gtk but is it gtk2 or gtk3, and something to be able to > > configure from system settings would be nice) > > > > > apt-get install gtk2-engines-oxygen gtk3-engines-oxygen > kde-config-gtk-style > > That will get what you need. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5543a724.7080...@lostsonsvault.org > >
Re: System wide proxy in Debian Jessie
Great suggestion! Yeah, actually for some reason that slipped my mind ... if it's just a local system you're concerned with, iptables can easily redirect your web traffic to the local running proxy (whatever it is). Tim Kelley On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Matthias Bodenbinder < matth...@bodenbinder.de> wrote: > Am 01.05.2015 um 08:49 schrieb Avinash Sonawane: > >> Which is the standard/recommended way to set system wide proxy in >> Debian instead of editing utility specific rc files (wgetrc, apt.conf >> etc)? >> >> I am aware of /etc/environment, setting http_proxy environ variable >> and then export it, editing bashrc. >> >> > What you need is a "transparent proxy". This is setup in the background > with iptables and squid. It will ensure that all IP traffic is routed > through the proxy. Regardless of invidual app settings or environment > variables. > > I had this running a few years ago and it worked perfectly. But I can not > recall the detailed setup anymore. Just google "transparent proxy" and you > will find your way. > > e.g. > http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/TransparentProxy-5.html > http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/TransparentProxy-6.html > > Matthias > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a > subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: https://lists.debian.org/mhvted$i3h$1...@ger.gmane.org > >
Re: Colorized Prompts Problem
I do like to use a colorized promt to show my running jobs and whether my AWS creds are in the environment, but I usually use the built in PS2 rather than create insanely long lines. It took a while to develop that habit, though, but it works better. You can of course break lines arbitrarily with a "\" Tim Kelley On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI < edua...@kalinowski.com.br> wrote: > On 05/01/2015 12:07 PM, Thomas H. George wrote: > > I entered the following in .bashrc > > > >PS1='\033[01;33m\h:\w\$ \033[00m' > > > > to colorize the prompt (very handy to find the prompt when a command > > fills the console screen with lines of text) > > > > The only problem occurs when the next entry is more than one line. In > > that case the entry wraps around without moving to a new line. Instead > > it overwrites the begining of the current line. The command will still > > work but cannot be revised in the case of a typo. > > > > For example the prompt alone may be almost a line long, the \w means it > > will contain the full path to the current directory. The next command > > to be entered is a long one that should wrap to a new line but instead > > begins to overwrite the directory path. You see you made a typo and try > > to move back with the left arrow key and instead the cursor jumps to the > > line above. > > > > Admittedly this is an infrequent and not a serious problem. Still it is > > annoying when it occurs. Have I made an error in the colorizing prompt? > > The bash manpage suggests enclosing the non-printing escape sequences > inside \[ and \]. This is not 100% effective, but it helps. > > > -- > Eduardo M KALINOWSKI > edua...@kalinowski.com.br > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55439e1b.2010...@kalinowski.com.br > >
Re: System wide proxy in Debian Jessie
On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 1:49 AM, Avinash Sonawane wrote: > Which is the standard/recommended way to set system wide proxy in > Debian instead of editing utility specific rc files (wgetrc, apt.conf > etc)? > > I am aware of /etc/environment, setting http_proxy environ variable > and then export it, editing bashrc. > Environment’s the only method I know of. Almost all of those programs will honor it, as will a lot of GUI programs and desktop environments, although they might want you to manually check off an option for it to do so.
Re: Question: Why do you dist-upgrade?
> So a client comes to you as a professional admin. Let's say they have > an aging Squeeze LTS based web server. They want to move to Jessie > which you may have heard is recently released. Would you re-install > their system to Jessie and ask them to reinstall their web site from > scratch? Or would you spend twenty minutes upgrading from Squeeze 6 > to Wheezy 7 and then from Wheezy 7 to Jessie 8? > > I would recommend they stop hosting their own machine and use a hosted service if they do not have a full time admin, actually. I generally haven't done work like that (freelancing or working for an integrator), but this isn't 2005 any more, either. Are there really that many companies - companies without their own IT department - with self hosted, unmanaged servers running around these days? Seriously? And really, running a server on bare metal these days is a total waste. Any hypervisor will make remote work a lot easier, and avoid the whole issue with ssh and rebooting and everything else. Sheesh, it's 2015, ya'll. Sorry for the top posting.
Re: Question: Why do you dist-upgrade?
>*Grumble* x86 desktop users. So many things are taken for granted. >No offense meant. I'm a server admin for a living, for the last 25 years, I mean data centers and lately, cloud. There a very few conditions that would make me dist-upgrade a server, that is absolutely primitive. Servers are created from scratch in minutes at will from an SCMS or automated install and if not, you are wrong! Tim Kelley On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 13:52:07 -0500 > Tim Kelley wrote: > > > Tim Kelley > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Reco wrote: > > > > > Hi. > > > > > > On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:11:52 -0500 > > > Tim K wrote: > > > > > > > For me, and I think anyone with a sensibly laid out system, it's so > much > > > > less trouble and time to reinstall. > > > > > > While the amount of trouble is subjective, the install/upgrade time is > > > objective. And it's the last one that you estimated wrong. > > > > > > An debian-installer, being a complex frontend to debootstrap, install > > > packages and configures them. It also does disks partitioning, and the > > > whole process requires two reboots (to installer and to a new system). > > > > > > An upgrade process installs the packages, configures them, but does not > > > do partitioning. Also requires a single reboot that can be postponed > > > indefinitely. > > > > > > An upgrade is simply faster. > > > > > > > Hm. Not for me, anyway. None of those reboots matter to me much. > > Get yourself a server hardware. Every reboot equals to 20-30 minutes on > hardware self-tests alone. Every reinstall requires that *magic* > firmware of very specific version (non-free, of course, so it's not > included in Debian CD). > > Don't like server hardware? Get yourself a VPS, where every reinstall > requires you to communicate with those "friendly" overseas support guys. > And you'll be lucky if they don't charge you extra for console access. > > Don't need a VPS? Get yourself an ARM board where every $DEITY-damn > *model* requires its' own street magic special trickery to run the > installer. > > *Grumble* x86 desktop users. So many things are taken for granted. > No offense meant. > > > > > I can only really think of one reason > > > > to dist-upgrade, and that's if the system is remote (and a very good > > > reason > > > > it is). I'm wondering why some of you dist-upgrade ... do you just > like > > > it > > > > that way? A habit? > > > > > > Upgrade can be done via SSH. Upgrade retains all my packages installed. > > > The most important thing is - upgrade does its best in handling all > > > those customizations in /etc. > > > > > > Oh absolutely. But it can make /etc cruftier over time. > > # du -sxh /etc > 40M > # du -sxh /etc/.git > 32M > # tune2fs -l /dev/root | grep creat > Filesystem created: Fri Jan 27 23:41:53 2008 > > I can live with that cruft :) > > > > Being able to > > upgrade a distribution remotely is a very nice feature of Debian indeed. > > Debian is not the only one in this regard. > Unless I'm mistaken, the only major distribution which does not > support major version upgrade is RHEL. > > > > > /var contents will do you little good without /etc in most server > > > environments > > > > /var's only separate because of the SSD (trying to activity on it, but > I'm > > not sure that's really even an issue any more) > > In my case, I use the same SCMS at home as I do at work (salt) and that's > > where I configure most everything, and that is backed by remote git, and > > backed up remotely in addition to that, so, I think I'm covered there. > > If you have a backup - it's not an issue. Provided, of course, that > such backup is tested on a regular basis. > > > > You're right though, the new install would be very painful without that, > > since you'd have to change a hundred little things, from /etc/papersize > to > > all the shell settings (which I have a lot of). And I admit it's very > > uncommon for a home user to back their configuration up with an SCMS. > > :) > > > > > > The cons are that firstly, it's very time consuming and much more > > > > complicated. > > > > > > See above. > > > > > > > > You have
Re: Question: Why do you dist-upgrade?
Tim Kelley On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:11:52 -0500 > Tim K wrote: > > > For me, and I think anyone with a sensibly laid out system, it's so much > > less trouble and time to reinstall. > > While the amount of trouble is subjective, the install/upgrade time is > objective. And it's the last one that you estimated wrong. > > An debian-installer, being a complex frontend to debootstrap, install > packages and configures them. It also does disks partitioning, and the > whole process requires two reboots (to installer and to a new system). > > An upgrade process installs the packages, configures them, but does not > do partitioning. Also requires a single reboot that can be postponed > indefinitely. > > An upgrade is simply faster. > Hm. Not for me, anyway. None of those reboots matter to me much. > I can only really think of one reason > > to dist-upgrade, and that's if the system is remote (and a very good > reason > > it is). I'm wondering why some of you dist-upgrade ... do you just like > it > > that way? A habit? > > Upgrade can be done via SSH. Upgrade retains all my packages installed. > The most important thing is - upgrade does its best in handling all > those customizations in /etc. > > Oh absolutely. But it can make /etc cruftier over time. Being able to upgrade a distribution remotely is a very nice feature of Debian indeed. > > /var contents will do you little good without /etc in most server > environments /var's only separate because of the SSD (trying to activity on it, but I'm not sure that's really even an issue any more) In my case, I use the same SCMS at home as I do at work (salt) and that's where I configure most everything, and that is backed by remote git, and backed up remotely in addition to that, so, I think I'm covered there. You're right though, the new install would be very painful without that, since you'd have to change a hundred little things, from /etc/papersize to all the shell settings (which I have a lot of). And I admit it's very uncommon for a home user to back their configuration up with an SCMS. > > The cons are that firstly, it's very time consuming and much more > > complicated. > > See above. > > You have to admit, there is much more to go wrong on an upgrade than a reinstall. Unless you were super-careful with your backports and software from outside the release in general that will cause problems, and while you might say "you should always be careful about that" it's also true that most people just aren't. But yes if you do it right, use /usr/local or /opt and /etc/local and /etc/opt, /var/opt and /var/local you should be fine, but I've never personally met anyone who does that. Or if you kept your stable plain vanilla - never met anyone who does that either. | And that's a perfect example of good software as all those years your > system booted successfully. > > Well, yes, it is. I'm not dissing upgrading. I'd just rather re-install.
Re: making thumbnails
You could use convert to degrade the quality rather than size, so the page won't be moving about when loading. Tim Kelley On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Siard wrote: > Steve Greig wrote: > > I have about 60 large jpg files in a directory. They are almost all > > over 2MB in size. I want to put them on the internet but wanted to > > make a thumbnail version and a small version (about 75KB) of each one > > so the web page does not take too long to load. Normally I just open > > them in GIMP and modify them and save the smaller versions. Because > > there are 60 this is going to take quite a lot of time. > > > > Is there a utility available for Debian that could do them all. > > You could install package gimp-plugin-registry. > Among many other things, it adds batch processing to GIMP. > Access it via Filters > Batch > Batch Process... > Under tab 'Resize' you can enter either scale factor or absolute size. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: > https://lists.debian.org/20150428191450.f3030e17.shiems...@kpnplanet.nl > >
Re: no ntp installed
Yes, far preferable to running a local ntpd on every machine. Tim Kelley On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Curt wrote: > On 2015-04-28, Erwan David wrote: > >> > >> $ systemctl enable systemd-timesyncd.service > >> $ systemctl start systemd-timesyncd.service > >> > >> > > Which won't work in many work environment because querying ntp servers > > outside the site is blocked by firewall. > > > > > > This is a client; can't it be configured to consult a local ntp server > on the lan (which server gets its time from where in your work > environment scenario?)? > > Well, anyway, I find it appreciable for a home machine to be able to turn > on system-timesyncd and away you go without further ado or installing an > extra package (that slimness thing usually appeals to people here). > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: > https://lists.debian.org/slrnmjvcl3.2tc.cu...@einstein.electron.org > >
Re: jessie: how to suppress emacs24 warnings
As I understand it, it is generally considered unprofessional to have your application print warnings. Tim Kelley On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Erwan David wrote: > > Juha Heinanen a écrit : > > > Is there anything that can be done to get rid of those warnings? Which > > > package the bug lies? Is there any hope that the bugs are fixed before > > > the next Debian release? > > To fix the bugs associated with those Gtk-WARNING messages it would be > necessary to roll up the sleeves, break out the editor, source code, > and compilers, and start working on the GTK libraries. There are > seemingly endless bugs there. > > > You may also use lucid-emacs which works well in X11 and does nit have > > those warnings since it does not use GTK. (and has same functionality). > > +1 FTW! Except that it is spelled "emacs-lucid". I am using the > emacs-lucid to avoid some bugs in the GTK+ libraries. > > # apt-get install emacs24-lucid > > Bob >
Re: jessie: how to suppress emacs24 warnings
Well, typing it is cumbersome so you can do in ~/.bash_aliases or ~/.bashrc alias emacs='emacs > /dev/null 2>&1' I agree though, that is annoying, and a lot of GTK programs do that. And sending the output to null isn't really the right answer, since you'll miss actual errors that are important. As far as I can tell, it's a compiled flag on gtk, so filing a bug against gtk is probably the best thing to do. You could rebuild the gtk deb from the source deb and change that and install it too, if you want to do that. Tim Kelley On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Juha Heinanen wrote: > Tim Kelley writes: > > > If you just use the console emacs, you can install the emacs-nox version > of > > 24. > > In this case, i used x11 emacs, but started it from console. > > > In anycase, they’re just warnings, and can be ignored. > > Yes, I know, but the warnings consume the whole page of the terminal > window and I cannot anymore see, what was there without scrolling back, > which is annoying. > > > It’s just > > stating something some other packager did was deprecated but still > > functional .. you can start emacs with emacs >/dev/null 2>&1 if you like, > > or not start it from the terminal and start from an icon or menu. > > Typing emacs >/dev/null 2>&1 is too cumbersome and starting from menu > looses the directory where I am. For example, if the current dir has a > file that I want to edit, I just used to type > > emacs file > > but now I get all the garbage to the window which is not good. > > Is there anything that can be done to get rid of those warnings? Which > package the bug lies? Is there any hope that the bugs are fixed before > the next Debian release? > > -- Juha >
Re: jessie: how to suppress emacs24 warnings
If you just use the console emacs, you can install the emacs-nox version of 24. In anycase, they’re just warnings, and can be ignored. It’s just stating something some other packager did was deprecated but still functional .. you can start emacs with emacs >/dev/null 2>&1 if you like, or not start it from the terminal and start from an icon or menu. Tim Kelley On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Juha Heinanen wrote: > after upgrading to jessie that came with emacs24, i get the warnings > below to terminal window each time i start emacs in x11 environment. > any hints on how to get rid of them? > > -- juha > > (emacs:12957): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk-widgets.css:57:17: > Theming engine 'unico' not found > > (emacs:12957): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: > gtk-widgets.css:289:20: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'. > > (emacs:12957): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: > gtk-widgets.css:323:20: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'. > > (emacs:12957): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: > gtk-widgets.css:1828:20: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'. > > (emacs:12957): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: > gtk-widgets.css:1845:21: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'. > > (emacs:12957): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: > gtk-widgets.css:1861:20: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'. > > (emacs:12957): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: > gtk-widgets.css:2146:20: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'. > > (emacs:12957): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: > gtk-widgets-backdrop.css:16:20: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming > 'px'. > > (emacs:12957): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: > gtk-widgets-backdrop.css:93:20: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming > 'px'. > > (emacs:12957): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: > gtk-widgets-backdrop.css:183:20: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming > 'px'. > > (emacs:12957): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: > gtk-widgets-backdrop.css:503:20: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming > 'px'. > > (emacs:12957): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: > gtk-widgets-backdrop.css:850:20: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming > 'px'. > > (emacs:12957): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: > gtk-widgets-backdrop.css:925:20: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming > 'px'. > > (emacs:12957): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: > gtk-widgets-backdrop.css:941:20: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming > 'px'. > > (emacs:12957): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: > gtk-widgets-backdrop.css:957:20: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming > 'px'. > > (emacs:12957): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: > gtk-widgets-backdrop.css:1012:21: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming > 'px'. > > (emacs:12957): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: > gtk-widgets-backdrop.css:1020:21: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming > 'px'. > > (emacs:12957): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: > gtk-widgets-backdrop.css:1034:21: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming > 'px'. > > (emacs:12957): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: > gtk-widgets-backdrop.css:1103:21: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming > 'px'. > > (emacs:12957): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: > gtk-widgets-backdrop.css:1237:20: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming > 'px'. > > (emacs:12957): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gnome-panel.css:94:21: > Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'. > > (emacs:12957): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: nautilus.css:18:18: > Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'. > > (emacs:12957): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: nautilus.css:18:20: > Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'. > > (emacs:12957): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: nautilus.css:81:20: > Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'. > > (emacs:12957): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: nautilus.css:86:20: > Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'. > > (emacs:12957): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: nautilus.css:145:20: > Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: https://lists.debian.org/21822.33998.31670.529...@tutpro.com > >
Re: testing or stable
True that. When you run unstable or testing it's best to take great care when updating or installing anything, as in sid installing something can trigger a shitstorm depending on what was uploaded that day ... stable only for me these days. Tim Kelley On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Sven Hartge wrote: > Joris Bolsens wrote: > > > I've been using Debian Jessie for ~ a year now, now that it is stable > > should I update to sid? or stick with jessie? > > > I enjoy tinkering with everything, so I'm OK with things breaking or > > needing some special configuration, hell I'll even patch a thing and > > recompile from source if I have to (I know, shocking right). > > Then just put "testing" instead of "jessie" into your sources.list and > you will stay on the testing branch forever. > > But be prepared, once the floodgates from Unstable to Testing have been > opened there will be a tsunami of new packages rushing in form Unstable > so the ride may be a bit rough during the first weeks of the new > development cyble. > > Grüße, > Sven. > > -- > Sigmentation fault. Core dumped. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: https://lists.debian.org/2biocu9hd...@mids.svenhartge.de > >
Re: apt vs aptitude (was ... Re: non-stable packages infestation)
I think the reason some prefer apt is that aptitude has more finely grained dependency handling and the dependencies have grown tremendously over the years (over 40,000 discrete packages now). Even though apt will not break anything, it's never a bad idea to use aptitude as it always offer solutions. It's slower to search than apt-cache but it is much more powerful in searching. Aptitude does a LOT more than apt-get. It like an apt-* I really use them interchangeably, and synaptic and other tools as well. It really doesn't matter. But here's a copy / paste of the major differences: - aptitude will automatically remove eligible packages, whereas apt-get requires a separate command to do so - The commands for *upgrade* vs. *dist-upgrade* have been renamed in aptitude to the probably more accurate names *safe-upgrade* and *full-upgrade*, respectively. - aptitude actually performs the functions of not just apt-get, but also some of its companion tools, such as apt-cache and apt-mark. - aptitude has a slightly different query syntax for searching (compared to apt-cache) - aptitude has the *why* and *why-not* commands to tell you which *manually installed* packages are preventing an action that you might want to take. - If the actions (installing, removing, updating packages) that you want to take cause conflicts, aptitude can suggest several potential resolutions. apt-get will just say "I'm sorry Dave, I can't allow you to do that." Tim Kelley On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 7:21 AM, Francisco M Neto wrote: > I actually miss the good'ol days of dselect. Apart from that I've been > using a combination of apt for small tasks and synaptic for large numbers > of packages. > > > On 04/27/2015 08:21 AM, Teresa e Junior wrote: > >> On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 11:40:37 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> >>> On Monday 27 April 2015 11:35:42 Chris Bannister wrote: >>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 03:22:33AM -0300, Teresa e Junior wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sat, 25 Apr 2015 19:16:24 -0400, Kynn Jones wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm considering going back to apt, even though most of the advice I've >>>>>> read on apt vs aptitude leans in favor of the latter. After this >>>>>> experience, I've lost trust in aptitude. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Probably old advice, apt is the most recommended nowadays. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I don't think that is true at all. >>>> >>> >>> Agreed. There are pros and cons. I like and use aptitude. >>> >> >> Yeah, I thought I read somewhere that aptitude is not recommended >> anymore, but looking back, what really happened is that I had many negative >> experiences with aptitude (it would always try to uninstall packages >> installed by apt), so the right sentence would be "apt is the most >> recommended nowadays by me"® >> >> >> > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a > subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: https://lists.debian.org/553e29e1.6010...@gmail.com > >
Re: Best way for "Red Hat guy" to learn Debian?
Oh, also, you may some some habits that you can dispense with, such as looking around the internet for your software instead of your distribution. Debian has everything, pretty much, try the Debian repos first. And don't willy-nilly add repos to Debian without knowing what you're doing ... there are official backports and those are fine, but generally if you really need something newer than stable has, you can add the source repos from unstable, get the source debs and it's dependencies, then re-locate (so they can't disturb anything else and won't trigger removing the current versions) and recompile them. This gets a little unworkable with apps that have huge and non-trivial dependencies (e.g., whole desktop environments, some desktop apps), but generally works. These things can be accomplished in a few commands with a little upfront work. Debian's package source building utilities go far beyond what yum does. Tim Kelley On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:45 AM, Tim Kelley wrote: > Do read throught the Debian Aministrator's guide and for quick question > irc freenode #debian is a big help > > Tim Kelley > > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:41 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby < > mihamina.rakotomandi...@rktmb.org> wrote: > >> On 04/26/2015 10:30 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote: >> >>> Does anyone know of any good resources (books, web sites, etc.) to help >>> an experienced "Red Hat guy" make the transition? >>> >> >> This really depends on the complexity of your setup. >> >> Network is configured from different files, for example. >> Apache has different default configuration tree,... >> >> Please telle us more about your setup so taht one can poit out specific >> things. >> >> Thank you. >> >> >> -- >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a >> subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org >> Archive: https://lists.debian.org/553dda06.5010...@rktmb.org >> >> >
Re: Best way for "Red Hat guy" to learn Debian?
Do read throught the Debian Aministrator's guide and for quick question irc freenode #debian is a big help Tim Kelley On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:41 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby < mihamina.rakotomandi...@rktmb.org> wrote: > On 04/26/2015 10:30 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote: > >> Does anyone know of any good resources (books, web sites, etc.) to help >> an experienced "Red Hat guy" make the transition? >> > > This really depends on the complexity of your setup. > > Network is configured from different files, for example. > Apache has different default configuration tree,... > > Please telle us more about your setup so taht one can poit out specific > things. > > Thank you. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a > subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: https://lists.debian.org/553dda06.5010...@rktmb.org > >
Re: [way OT, but desperate] GoBook speakers
Are you using pulseaudio? If you're using Gnome and haven't changed anything, you are. If you look at "Sound" in system settings, that's what you're configuring, although it only presents a fraction of it to you. I'd dig into that, look at the pusle audio tools (like man -k pulse) They will help you debug this issue, you might see why the speakers are disconnecting. Tim Kelley On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Glenn English wrote: > Is anyone here familiar with GoBook XR-1 laptops? > > A friend and I have several of them (running Wheezy and Ubuntu), and the > speakers quit on them, from time to time. The headphones jacks still work > just fine, and the speakers have been known to come back on with a reboot. > But not always. > > I've searched the 'Net for documentation on this thing, and there doesn't > seem to be *any* at all, aside from glossy 2 page sales brochures. > > If you know what's going on with these, or what to set in the BIOS (or OS) > to keep the speakers on, I'd be eternally grateful if you'd tell me about > it. (I've futzed with the 'stealth' settings in the BIOS, with no success.) > > TIA > > -- > Glenn English > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: > https://lists.debian.org/0e7d1cbe-c481-4bcc-ae04-dae6e050c...@slsware.net > >
Re: do I really need "make-kpkg clean"?
On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 01:05:01AM +0300, Andres J?rv wrote: > I'm missing the point of make-kpkg. It doesn't make any other difference > than make things more complicated IMHO. I just use the old fashion way of cp > and make modules_install ;) ? It doesn't take any longer, and you get version tracking and a nice deb. Seems like a no brainer to me. It's much more convenient than cp and editing your bootloader files ... -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on an old PC
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 03:36:44PM +0100, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 14:54 +0100, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: > >> I need some advice. Is debian fit for a Pentium 100MHz PC with 16MB RAM > >> and approx 4Gb harddisk? Are there anyone who has experience with such a > >> slow machine running debian (or any other linux dist)? > > > > Depends on what software you decide to install on it. > > > > What do you want to do with the box? > > > With this box I am trying to convince my father that linux is an excellent > replacement for windows98se for writing textdocuments and maybe some > scientific documents. He needs a machine with a simple gui, openoffice.org > and some other simple programs. For the window-manager I had xfce in > mind, which is as I have understood, the easiest to lern of the small > wm's. No way, forget running that on a P100 with 16MB. I am frankly surprised windows 98SE runs on it either. slink might run ok on it at the console. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: aic7xxx won't load?
On Thu, Dec 30, 2004 at 04:16:30PM +0100, Didde Brockman wrote: > After trying a stable install which of course could not find the > drive(s) I resorted to the Debian Installer which has helped in the > passed when I had to deal with hardware not supported by woody's boot > disks. Sarge seems to have the necessary modules (aic7xxx etc.) but > while it's "detecting hardware" it says that some of the modules failed > to load ? more specifically the aic7xxx, which of course results in no > disks being found either. I figured that I might be able to load it > manually but insmod simply returns an error from which I can tell > nothing... Just that it fails to load. This applies to both rc2 and the > newer daily builds... The driver in the kernel does not work and never will, Red Hat patches their RHEL 3 U3 kernel for this card. No other linux works with these cards. To install debian on this machine you will need to build a custom install cd with a kernel that can see this card .. which is quite a process. > The hardware seems to be fine as I can install RH without a glitch and > it runs well, so I'm starting to wonder if this module might be broken > under sarge? Has this happened to anybody but me? I'd be very glad if > someone could point me into the right direction on this one as I am now > officially stuck... Let me guess - RHEL 3 update 3? > Might mention that I also tried running linux26 off the Debian > Installer but with the same results... For some reason the aic7xxx driver in the linux kernel tree is ancient. If you download the source from adaptec, you get version 2.08. The version included with the kernel is like 1.3, even with 2.6. this doesn't appear to have changed at all from 2.4.18 or before, which is a long time. I don't know why this is, but you might ask the drivers maintainer. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian sid and "risk management"
On Saturday 25 December 2004 10:05, Alex Malinovich wrote: > Sid is probably not the right choice if you need to run a nuclear > defense grid, but for day to day work on the desktop and even on > servers, it's plenty stable enough in my experience. You've got to be kidding me. I've run sid for about five years now and no way in hell would I even think of considering using it for a production system. This is the whole point of stable. If you think testing or unstable is suitable for production systems you are one of 1. an idiot 2. have very limited needs/no experience 3. talking out of your ass 4. have no concept of what it means to be responsible for others' work I am getting really sick of people pushing sid for production use. Please stop doing it. I don't really care if it meets your needs. If it does, you are a tiny minority; your experience with it in this capacity is anecdotal, and none of it is likely to have any bearing on anyone else's needs. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge Betting Pool
On Friday 17 December 2004 15:07, William Ballard wrote: > I'll say Sarge on April 1st, 2005. Takers? April 1, 2017, unless they can't get their shit together, in which case April 2027. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backup with versioning
On Saturday 18 December 2004 05:51, Bob Alexander wrote: > In my neverending tweaking of the system I would like to setup a backup > cron job which would not only (possibly incrementally) save the files or > directories I indicate, but for /etc and /home would keep the revisions > of the files in a versioning schema (like rcs, cvs etc.) so that I have > the possibility of going back to some previous state of the file. i think you want to look into rdiff-backup -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD 64 with woody or sarge
On Thursday 16 December 2004 10:38, Nick Miller wrote: > Hey all, > > I am wondering what experiences, positive or negative, you all have had > running woody or sarge with AMD's line of 754 & 939 64bit processors. I > would really like to push my company to replace some of our lower end > servers with systems built around these chips. Well, I think they're great systems, and it's about time, but ... unless you're running into the limits of 32 bits sytems (like 1GB memory max), there isn't a truly compelling argument to running the 64 bit system. On the other hand, it will be faster than almost any other "pc" processor, and they aren't terribly expensive, so ... -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hardware hassles: Linux vs. Windows
On Wednesday 15 December 2004 10:56, Christian Convey wrote: > Hi guys, > > Recently I've spent a lot of time digging through udev / hotplug issues, > getting to know modprobe, modules.conf, alsaconf, XF86Config-4 etc. > This was all to get a digicam and a flashdrive to be useful, or to make > sound/video work. > > As much as I like Linux and its ideals, I thought to myself, "I've never > had to deal with issues like these in Windows. I buy a product, plug it > in, and almost always, it just works." > > I'd really like to advocate Linux more to friends and family, but I just > don't feel like I can recommend the OS to non-techies until dealing with > hardware gets easier. > > Do you guys have any reflections on why, for technical / social / market > / whatever reasons, this difference exists between the two OS's exists? > And are those differences necessary or accidental? Well part of your answer is that linux is more complex in depth than windows is. Windows is monolithic, so there is only one thing that has to happen, in one place. Linux is modular, and has many layers. This philosophy is built into the design of either system, respectively. With linux, in the case of say, a usb trackball, you have the kernel, then X, requiring configuration to be made in at least two places. This is a tradeoff, since while it definitely gives more difficulty in configuration, it does offer good modularization, considering once it's done, our trackball will work in Gnome, KDE, fvwm, olwm, blackbox, ad infinitum. There's no "right" answer to this question, since it is really rather several questions, once of which now appears to be "is modularization a good thing"? -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Conversion PDF->WMF
On Friday 10 December 2004 17:36, Gregory Seidman wrote: > Because of unpleasant requirements at work, I am producing diagrams in a > Windows program that has no export capabilities at all. I can print, > however, and I am using the free PDFCreator project from sourceforge to > generate PDFs. This is all well and good, but I now need to insert these > diagrams in Word and modify them, which sucks. Well all you need to is define a windows postscript printer that prints to a file (any decent one will do). Word should be able to deal with that. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: postfix logrotate
On Friday 10 December 2004 05:07, Tom Allison wrote: > I would like to be able to rotate my logs on a daily (midnight) basis. > Currently they are rotating at 6:23AM daily. > > I didn't see anything that would specify the time of day to do a > daily/weekly rotation. You can change the time scripts in /etc/cron.daily run by modifying the file /etc/crontab. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can I setup my computer to print off of a windows network?
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 06:09:07PM -0500, Shawn McCuan wrote: > Right now i do not have a printer attached to my computer. But, I am > networked with another computer in my house that IS connected to a > printer. However, that computer is running WinXP Home. Can I set up > Debian Unstable (with 2.6.9) kernel to print off of that printer like > you can using windows networking? Install cupsys, cupsys-bsd (if you want to print with lp) and smbclient. When defining the print queue in cups, use the smb:// device type and point it to the windows print queue, and make sure you have access to print to windows remotely. That's it, except you'll need to also find a driver (ppd file) that works for linux. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DFSG-free replacement of DJBDNS ?
On Saturday 27 November 2004 02:09, Frank Bauer wrote: > Hello. > > I'm searching for dns server for a small network. I have used djbdns > in the past, but now I'd like to switch to something dfsg-free. > > The dns server should have both authoritative (for computers in local > network only) and recursive part. The recursive part must be easily > scriptable, because we are on dialup and we can get different set of > nameservers each time we connect (we have several providers, etc). BIND works fine, even if monolithic and a little clunky. Though everytime your recursive nameservers switch, you would need to change the "forwarders" statement and HUP named. Or, you can just not have any forwarders, which will work, but it will go to the root servers quite often ... -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with CUPS: need to enter password for lp and lpq several times
On Sunday 21 November 2004 17:34, Andreas Ehn wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using CUPS (cupsys-1.1.20final+rc1-10) in Sarge and have a problem > using any functions that require authentication. > > If I want to print a document using lp, I have to enter my password > three times before it is accepted. If I want to query the status of the > printer queue using lpq, I have to enter the password five (usually) or > four (rarely) times. > > I see similar issues when I'm trying to access the web interface. I can > login to the main menu without problem, but if I try to access the jobs > listing, I am prompted for the password for what seems to be an infinite > number of times. It sounds like you have /jobs set to AuthType Basic / AuthClass User; which I believe is the default. It should accept your Unix password. Are you using some other sort of authentication, such as NIS or ldap? If not, I would strace your attempts at using lp to see just what the hell cups is doing ... like: strace lp filename -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: about cups-client
On Saturday 20 November 2004 00:24, tiger wrote: > However, I installed cupsys-client pacakage, and added the ServerName in > /etc/cups/client.conf. After that lpstat could see the printer name and > status. But when I use lp -d printername filename, lpstat said " sending > 341515 bytes. " something like this for a long time. And the printer > on the server did not reponse. So what's the matter? The server uses > cupsys and seems quite normal. other client machines( windows or BSD lpr > system in linux) could use the printer withou problems. > Thanks Are you running the BSD compatible lpd on the cups server? It's run through inetd; check netstat -a and see if it's listening on port 515 (printer). -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partitioning hard drives
On Wednesday 17 November 2004 08:06, Bob wrote: > Hello list, I've read the section in the install manual about > recommended partitioning schemes, but thought I would also see what the > collective wisdom has to say on the matter. Well, if you are going to have all these filesystems on the same set of drive spindles, there really isn't any use to carving up /usr and everything else at all. Separating filesystems mainly gives the advantage of using different mount options for each filesystem; such as mounting /var "noexec" and /usr "read only". putting /var on a separate filesystem is almost always a good idea, since it is so active; but on a different set of drives is the best idea. putting /usr on a part by itself allows read only mounting if that gets you off. Of course installing software requires an extra step. In debian most all of the server packages will have most of their data in /var (apache, mysql, postgresql, and so forth). If it's a file server then /srv (or /export) separate would be a good idea as well. Really it depends on the machines purpose and what's running on it. If your /home is nfs mounted, of course you have no use for a separate /home, do you? RAID 10 is a huge money waster as well, only in the most extreme situations would I use it. RAID 5 is fine for four drives. If real time redundancy is not that important, you may consider a non-raid setup. It depends on what you are running and what you intend to do with it. Partitioning schemes don't exist in a vacuum; what makes sense for one machine may be utterly stupid for another. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partitioning hard drives
On Wednesday 17 November 2004 17:35, Steve Lamb wrote: > I tend to put /, /usr and /var on their own partitions of decent size > (180Mb, 2.7Gb, 1.8Gb on my laptop) and then take the remainder and mount it > under it's drive name in /mnt. So for my laptop /dev/hda7, a 15Gb > partition, is mounted under /mnt/hda7. Not to be pedantic, but /srv is for that ... -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firewall on DSL router - good enough?
On Monday 15 November 2004 19:39, Davor_Balder/FOAMS/PACBRANDS/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi all, > > I have recently acquired a router/dsl modem with built-in firewall > (according to manufacturers technical documentation) and am planning to use > it with my Debian box. > > I have noticed there is a firewall built in as well as NAT and a few other > bits and pieces. > > Google search revealed there are quite a few manufacturers that offer DSL > modems/routers with firewall protocols built in. > > >From a practical point of view, how good are these and should I consider > > rolling my own firewall? With the router as firewall you get convenience and simplicity, at the expense of flexibility. With an iptables based firewall you get complexity but tremendous flexibility. Your call, I guess :) -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bizarre NFS Problem
On Tuesday 16 November 2004 08:45, Derek "The Monkey" Wueppelmann wrote: > I know this is an old thread now, but I finally got a chance to try out > the above. And while I was very hopeful in that it might work it still > ended up with the same results. I don't know about everybody else but I > am thoroughly puzzled by this. Have you looked at tcpdump output while this is happening? you might see some clues ... If you are using udp, just do tcpdump udp or icmp and port nfs You might see a lot of icmp error messages, and you'll certainly see the fragmentation. You might try switching to tcp. Most likely udp is the culprit here, since any sort of network problem at all will result in data loss. Tcp is not noticeably slower and will work much better. On modern systems tcp and rsize and wsize of 32k is pretty standard. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why debian
On Sunday 14 November 2004 11:47, Alexandru Cabuz wrote: > Debian and actually the whole free software community would be an > awesome case study in political theory. It's been done, people just have a short memory. In fact, it's a little unnerving that software developers are so ignorant of politics and history. Look up syndicalism or industrial unionism. or just: apt-get install anarchism -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why debian - longer
On Friday 12 November 2004 22:24, Alvin Oga wrote: thanks for your response > > Well, first, some very general things: > > just some comments ... > > > 1. Debian is not a commercial organization, but a protected non-profit. > > This means they cannot be bought out. > > people can and will jump ship for any number of reasons ... Strength in numbers, etc. If enough debian developers "jumped ship" as you say, there would have to be a damn good reason to do so. > > a. Debian provides the most stable linux environment, both as a target > > for development and for daily work, of any linux distributor. > > "stable" meaning as in woody ??? > - that can be good and bad ... it's too too old for me or for > me to show/demo to potential customers > > - customers usually want latest greatest widgets and features > and they want *you/us* to fix the bugs/problems .. > and if not, they'd stay with what they know works for the past > few years, losing the chance for upgrades and changes Home users, yes. In any organization, however, stability is prized above all else. Most organizations prefer a a 24 month release cycle at best. I agree this is painful for the home/casual user. I won't make any excuses for sarge; at 28 months or so, it really needs to get out the door. > > b. Debian provides mechanisms for ease of administration and management > > like nothing else I've ever seen. Almost everything is done uniformly > > and sensibly. This goes far, far beyond "apt-get". > > uniform across windoze ( 95, 98, 2k, xp, solaris, hp, sgi, linux ... ) > - not a trivial problem .. but easily manageable as long > long as the pointy haired execs don't make random changes > > - apt-get won't help you in the majority of cases Debian provides a stable target that will not change; that's rather a big deal, Red Hat and SuSE cannot say the same (9.0 vs 9.1 vs 9.2, etc). Windows is such a chaotic mess I won't even belabor the point. Solaris has very long release cycles and patches that break things - i.e., they include enhancements along with security fixes. Debian does not do this: security only, if you like. apt-get does help, obviously software managements a big issue here, right? > > d. Debian is enormous; sarge will be approximately 15 cd's or 2 dvd's. > > Almost the entire free software repository is at the users fingertips. > > "size" ( number of cd's ) is not an issue It is a tremendous issue. Who wants to maintain a local source tree of hundreds of programs? Nobody who has done it I warrant. The enormity of debian gives instant access to all manner of very useful programs that simply don't make it into mainstream distros. This is very important to an admin, at least to me. > people just want the minimum stuff ... > - a webserver ... > - a dns server ... > - a firewall .. > - a mail server... > - users workstation ( kde/gnome ) .. Not once they've had a taste of all the useful programs that are out there. For instance, debian has a type of dependency named "provides". Therefore, debian can ship all manner of webservers which "provide" "httpd". thus programs which need a web server to operate, don't depend on "apache", they depend on "httpd" which is provided by some dozen packages. This sort of thinking underlies debian's infrastructure. > > e. Debian keeps up with security very, very, well; > > probably a good strong poiint ... > > but it will ask the user some silly questions once in a while > ( not a good thing ... keep the user's original config ) Sometimes (rarely) this simply has to be done (I recall the sshd exploit that was fixed by a change in the sshd_config) > > d. security is made a easy as possible; > there is more too it... > > - there is the install issue ... > - there is the get it working for what they want > - there is the keep it working once its up ... > - there is the patches and new apps to install after-the-fact... > - there is the security updates > ... > > apt-get is NOT the answer to all the user's problems Users are not the issue here, admins are, or more properly, people who tend to others systems. > > Let's look at some of the details and niceties the above policies and > > attitudes have engendered: > > > > 1. debsums - check md5sums of files on filesystem with debian packages. > > good thing to have .. but all distro and files can also have the same Yet they don't. If I suspect my "find" command's been hacked, I can compare what's on the filesystem to what is in the debian package. Not so with any other distro; at least not so easily. > > 2. apt-get - easy package management (SECURITY made easy -as it *should* > > be) > > everybody has their own variation of the same functions though > some are more cumbersome to use ... Much more cumbersome. they are in fact *bolt ons* to an inferior infrastructure, whereas in debian apt-get is the *result* of a well engineered infrastructure. > > 3. apt-cache - search / browse available
Re: why debian
On Friday 12 November 2004 02:11, ken keanon wrote: > Hi, > > There are so many distros out there its confusing. Any reason(s) why Debian > should be the preferred choice? > > Any statistics from any source(s) to proof the popularity of Debian? > > I'm in the dark waiting to be enlightened. Well, first, some very general things: 1. Debian is not a commercial organization, but a protected non-profit. This means they cannot be bought out. 2. Debian is a democratic organization, this means they cannot change directions suddenly, are not subject to the whims of an executive, and will not incur massive upsets in the user base nor in its developers. It also means it will not just dissappear overnight: too many people are involved. 3. Debian has a social contract with its users which makes certain (considerable) guarantees. 4. Debian is run and maintained by its core user base (debian developers) and as such has a tendency to make things as easy to manage as possible. As a direct result of the above, we also see that: a. Debian provides the most stable linux environment, both as a target for development and for daily work, of any linux distributor. b. Debian provides mechanisms for ease of administration and management like nothing else I've ever seen. Almost everything is done uniformly and sensibly. This goes far, far beyond "apt-get". c. Debian has a Bug Tracking System which is 100% open to the public, a boon to admins troubleshooting problems. No one else, not Red Hat, Sun, Novell, Microsoft nor Suse, has anything remotely comparable. d. Debian is enormous; sarge will be approximately 15 cd's or 2 dvd's. Almost the entire free software repository is at the users fingertips. e. Debian keeps up with security very, very, well; and does so with a minimum of disruption. It is quite safe, in stable, to update security without worrying that your configuration will be blown away. d. security is made a easy as possible; Red Hat for example, has a vested interest in selling you RHN to get security updates. They will therefore never have a system as simple and elegant as "apt-get". Let's look at some of the details and niceties the above policies and attitudes have engendered: 1. debsums - check md5sums of files on filesystem with debian packages. 2. apt-get - easy package management (SECURITY made easy -as it *should* be) 3. apt-cache - search / browse available packages 4. equivs - bypass the packaging system while satisfying it 5. apt-listbugs - query the bug tracking system 6. apt-listchanges - notification of what your updates did 7. separating configuration files from the files in the package (making it easy to update without disrupting operation, among other things) see concept of "conffile" in a debian package 8. wonderful docs; for example, all package changes are listed in /usr/share/doc/package/changelog.Debian.gz, and all upstream changes in /usr/share/doc/package/changelog.gz. /usr/share/doc also contains useful examples where appropriate. you thus have a complete history of the upstream package and the changes the packager made to it, separated neatly. 9. installs only what you tell it to (c.f. Red Hat) 10. wonderful way of abstracting kernel and kernel module building (also apples to other packages in general) 11. politely splitting up of packages when appropriate (e.g., snort-mysql vs snort-pgsql and snort-common, same for many, many others) 12. apt-build - build packages on the fly from source 13. auto-apt - install packages automagically when a (missing) file is accessed (great for ./configure; make ; make install freaks) 14. reportbug - easy way to report bugs to the BTS There are dozens of others, I'm getting tired. Someday perhaps I'll compile a reasonably complete list of niceties :). Anyone care to add? -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DNS problem
On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 10:47:50PM -0800, RituRaj wrote: > I have DNS problem. THe mails from our company sent > outside have started buncing with following error. It > was working till yesterday... > > ... while talking to smtp.pspl.co.in.: > >>> MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SIZE=3535954 > <<< 451 4.1.8 Domain of sender address > [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not resolve > Deferred: 451 4.1.8 Domain of sender address > [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not resolve > Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours > Will keep trying until message is 5 days old > > real username / domainame is replaced in above. > What could be the reason? I am able to send mails to > my yahoo account but do not receive any mails from > yahoo. What is the domainname? Can anyone send your domain mail, or not? Did you forget to pay the registrar by chance? Do a whois on this domain and see what it says ... -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new colour printer only uses black and white
On Wed, Nov 03, 2004 at 03:19:12PM +, Dave Howorth wrote: > I'm a lucky boy! We just installed a new HP4650dn colour laserjet. > Almost everything seems good but it is printing in monochrome from my > Debian box (mostly!). What ppd are you using with this printer? Is the printer capable of postscript? If not, you will have to use one of the foomatic ppds which may or may not do color (I don't know). You may have to do some searching on linuxprinting.org. It's almost certain the problem is the ppd you're using. If the printer does postscript just use the ppd from the manufacturer, and you will certainly get color. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SCSI Disk/Controller advice please
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 12:01:43AM +0100, Joao Clemente wrote: > Hi. > For the first time I'm gonna setup a server with SCSI disks (until now > I've done it only with IDE - regular ATA or SATA) > > I'm getting a completly new server (P4 3Ghz, Dual-Channel DDR 400, MB > with intel chipset) and, while I have a good ideia on these components, > I would like to setup a RAID-1 system with SCSI disks... > > I'm looking for advice on these: wich scsi controller should I buy? > Software or Hardware RAID-1? Wich disk brand? (I'm getting a couple of > 36GB, it is more than enough space for my setup) > > Which are the tradeoffs of hard vs software raid1? What happens/How do > we proceed if 1 disk fails (how do we know it, how do we replace/resync > them?) > > This server can be shutdown for maintenance at off-work hours, so I > don't need any hot-plugging capability.. (this is a controller feature, > right?) > > I'm quite confused about all the SCSI variations.. > > This is what I've found so far are somewhat like this: > - SCSI disks, all Ultra320Wide: n Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 12:01:43AM +0100, Joao Clemente wrote: > I'm looking for advice on these: wich scsi controller should I buy? > Software or Hardware RAID-1? Wich disk brand? (I'm getting a couple of > 36GB, it is more than enough space for my setup) The controllers by Mylex, LSI and Adaptec all work well. Make sure it is supported by a plain vanilla linux kernel. > Which are the tradeoffs of hard vs software raid1? What happens/How do > we proceed if 1 disk fails (how do we know it, how do we replace/resync > them?) Software raid eats up more CPU, but linux' software raid seems to be rather good. Doing the root filesystem on raid in linux is kind of a PITA. > This server can be shutdown for maintenance at off-work hours, so I > don't need any hot-plugging capability.. (this is a controller feature, > right?) Well that means you can simply buy 68 pin disks. The SCA disks are hot plug and require a backplane ($$$). > - SCSI disks, all Ultra320Wide: > Seagate Cheetah 10K 68 pin,36Gb - 160 EUR > Fujitsu 10K 68 pin,36Gb - 150 EUR > Fujitsu10K SCA/80pin, 36Gb - 150 EUR > Fujitsu 15K 68 pin,18Gb - 185 EUR > Fujitsu15K SCA/80pin, 18Gb - 185 EUR > Ok, no problem with these... any brand/model suggestions? Any of the 68 pin drives will do. > - Controllers > Several Adaptec SCSI Cards from 200 to 400 EUR, wich can have: > - 32 or 64bit > - 160MB or Ultra320 > - Raid (or not, when they say nothing.. I think) (the RAID ones start > at 400 EUR and I've seen up to 950 EUR) Any u160 controller will do so long as it is supported by linux. With a two drive raid1, ultra 320 would be a complete waste of money (just two drives cannot even approach using all that bandwidth). > Damn... Really confused... Please confirm these toughs also: > UltraWideSCSI = 68 pin ... What is "2", "3" or "4" ?!? These seem > "similar" to ATA 66/100/133 - the bus speed, is that it? > So, what's SCA? None of these controllers says SCA... You would be looking for a hardware raid controller, with one channel, two ultra 160 68 pin disks, and an LVD 68 pin scsi cable with a terminator attached. A regular 68 pin SE cable will not do. Now raid one is really for redundancy, not performance (though it performs fine). You get best performance when separating filesystems on different sets of drive spindles. for e.g., for a webserver (in debian), you might set up /var on one raid array, and everything else on another. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SCSI Disk/Controller advice please - fun
> > hi ya > > On Sat, 30 Oct 2004, Joao Clemente wrote: > > > I'm getting a completly new server (P4 3Ghz, Dual-Channel DDR 400, MB > > with intel chipset) and, while I have a good ideia on these components, > > I would like to setup a RAID-1 system with SCSI disks... > > there is zero point ot setting up raid-1 if you do not need > to be online 24x7 Uh, no. If the data is important to you, raid1 is always the best choice. If performance, mirror two stripe (raid0) sets. > problem with raid1 ( aka mirror ) > - if one disk goes bad, the other disk will copy that bad info > onto the good disk the whole point of mirror, both disk > is identical Completely false. Physical disk errors mirrored by raid? No, No, No. Fat fingered deletes? Yes. > > I'm looking for advice on these: wich scsi controller should I buy? > > Software or Hardware RAID-1? Wich disk brand? (I'm getting a couple of > > 36GB, it is more than enough space for my setup) > > if you insist on using raid1 ... > do software raid1 so you can monitor it and maintain it whatever > if you use hw raid1, you will suffer from not being able to monitor it > and at the mercy of the hw vendor to provide you > "monitoring/maintenance tools" > > - for the costs of the $200 hw raid1 controller, you can buy how > many additional disks to do your "mirroring" with rsync and tar > and other backup apps This is hackery, and is completely inappropriate in many situations. > > Which are the tradeoffs of hard vs software raid1? What happens/How do > > we proceed if 1 disk fails (how do we know it, how do we replace/resync > > them?) > > with raid1 .. you're gonna be S.O.L if one disk dies in a bad way > that will make the "good" disk also go bad Nonsense. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to install MTA from source without breaking apt-get dependencies
On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 03:06:16PM -0500, Adi Linden wrote: > > I don't think you need to build postfix from source to use cyrus-imap > > (i suspect you need to look carefully at the sasl authentication), but > > if you insist, i suggest to use the debian sources and build a debian > > package. Anyway, to do what you ask, i think you need to look at the > > "equivs" package... > > I posted a seperate message with the details of my postfix troubles. I > have a workaround solution of using the cyrus deliver program. I > understand that all it does is accept piped input and talk to cyrus-imap > via lmtp. > > I will work through the "equivs" package and go from there. I still 'don't > get' how Debian packages are built. I will have to look at that some time. more or less it's like this: apt-get build-dep packagename (installs the build dependencies) apt-get source packagename (grabs and unpacks the source deb) it will unpack the deb in the current directory, just switch to the source directory, then "debian" and edit the "rules" file (a makefile). The configure line is in there. edit it to your hearts content. back up one directory and run "debian/rules binary" That's pretty much it ... -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fbcon problems
I'm using the fb driver to get a high res console. Unfortunately, it still only has 43 columns (well 43 characters), and after that, typing becomes a mess. Is there some way around this? I am using both the intel i810 driver (2.4) and the radeon driver (2.6) and they both do this. I don't seem to remember my matrox card doing this though ... -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: space-limiting /var/cache/apt/archives
On Friday 15 October 2004 14:05, Maurits van Rees wrote: > On Fri, Oct 15, 2004 at 12:33:07PM -0400, Derrick Hudson wrote: > > One solution would be to make that directory a separate file system. > > Then when the filesystem's space is consumed apt won't be able to > > exceed that limit. > > I wonder how hard apt would crash when it hits the limit. I have hopes > that it will handle this gracefully, but it won't be installing any > more packages at that moment. It errors and quits. What more do you want? :) -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NFS slow/lockups
On Fri, Oct 15, 2004 at 11:00:18AM +0100, Alan Chandler wrote: > Both you guys have missed my main message - the speed I was talking about > was using SCP - so perhaps its also processors trying to do encrypt the > message. No, that is neglegible, unless this is a 386 or something. > The throughput with nfs was more like 2MB every 3 or 4 minutes - something > somewhere in that setup is causing me extreme grief and I don't know what. > I could really do with some pointers as to why that is not working. As far > as I am concerned 05.Mbytes (thats what it was) is plenty fast enough (and > its a 100mbit ethernet anyway). Have you tried what I suggested? I have seen this before. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian & Contivity VPN
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 01:51:19PM -0700, Jeremy Brooks wrote: > We use a Contivity VPN switch where I work. There is a linux client from > Apani that works just fine with kernel >= 2.4.21. And they have a beta > that works with 2.6.8, but ONLY on RH/Fedora/Suse. When used with Debian, > it just causes kernel panics. And the soultion is "Don't use Debian". Does it work on a vanilla kernel (from kernel.org) compiled on red hat? If so, the same should apply to debian. Seems worth a try ... -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple CD ISO's into single DVD ISO?
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 01:23:32PM -0700, Eric Wagar wrote: > But, I was not able to find any file like a .discinfo > (referenced in above article about which disk, etc) > on Debian. > > Has anyone been able to do the multi CD's into single > DVD? If so, how? Well, I don't know about concatenating all the disks into a single dvd, but certainly you could, for instance, mount all the cds then burn them all to dvd that way. But you would have multiple lines in sources.list (one for each cd you added to the disk). To me this wouldn't be so bad at all. You could make it really easy by putting a README in the root of it that had a sources.list you could just copy to /etc/apt. Then again, sarge takes up two dvds. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Equivalents ?.
On Thursday 14 October 2004 04:05, Erik Jakobsen wrote: > Artur M. Piwko wrote: > > I do not know what '-ql' does. > > Try 'dpkg -X package', where 'X' is: l, L, s, S. Maybe you'll find > > what you want. > > q means what version of a package. > l means where are the package installed, and it also shows all the > different files in > a package. > > I'll try what you suggest, and thanks for your reply. dpkg -L packagename does the same dpkg -S /path/to/filename tells what package owns what file -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NFS slow/lockups
On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 09:05:21PM +0100, Alan Chandler wrote: > I am trying copy about 350Mb of files - each one about 2.8MB each - over an > nfs link. Although I primarily trying this via drag and drop inside kde, > command line copying is also not working > > With the sync option it is very slow - the dialog box can't report the copy > rate and marks it as stalled. With the async option it goes fast until about > 30MB are copied and then comes to a complete halt. > > I was using the nfs-user daemon, but I have also switched over to the > nfs-kernel one. Doesn't seem to make any difference. > > Just to show its not networking problems, I have resorted to copying the files > via scp - even encrypted I am getting about 0.5Mb/sec That's horrible! Is this a 10Mb network or dialup or what? Surely you mean .5 MBytes/sec (which also isn't too hot for a 10Mbit ethernet). > Any idea whats wrong and how to improve performance? Some basic things: 1. If you have a switch, make sure it your interfaces are at full duplex 2. try mounting with the tcp option passed to mount, you can put this in your auto.master or at mount time or whatever. You would need tcp support compiled in on the server side for this. Look for "CONFIG_NFSD_TCP=y" in config for your current kernel (this is only necessary on the linux nfs server) 3. make sure if your using udp that you mount with rsize=8192,wsize=8192. If you are using tcp you can go to rsize=32768,wsize=32768 4. make sure you're using nfs version 3. nfstat will tell you, in fact, it may tell you a bit more about what is wrong. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: trouble with pam-ldap
On Tuesday 12 October 2004 15:09, Jeremy Brown wrote: > I'm trying to get a Debian sarge machine to authenticate against an > OpenLDAP server (running on the same box) with no success. > > Here are all non-comment lines in the relevant PAM files: > > /etc/pam.d/common-account: > account required pam_ldap.so > > /etc/pam.d/common-auth: > authrequired pam_ldap.so > > /etc/pam.d/common-session: > session required pam_ldap.so > > /etc/pam.d/common-password: > password required pam_ldap.so Try sufficient instead of required and place it first. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Serious problems after "apt-get dist-upgrade"
On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 12:35:19PM -0700, Eric Dickner wrote: > > That was a very powerful command that I will remember > for later use...after I reinstall Woody and start > over. Tons of things were installed that "apt-get > dist-upgrade" missed but they ended up hosing the > system. I had to boot off of the floppy and re-run > LILO even. After I got the kernel going the X-windows > system was missing a bunch of things. It works fine when you go from one (former) stable release to another, though you would probably have to enter it several times. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: change /dev/console owner to user logged on console?
On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 09:19:48AM -0400, Marc D Ronell wrote: > > Hi, > > Under Debian, is there a method which allows any user directly logged > onto the host and using the host's keyboard and monitor to take > ownership of some that host's devices? For example, to change the > ownership of /dev/xconsole or /dev/fd0 to be owned by the user > currently logged directly onto the host. Then when the user logs off, > the ownerships revert to their default values until the next user logs > directly on the host. Remote users do not change the device ownership > properties. Why would you want to do this? Why do you want "remote" users to be treated any different than "local" ones? Debian dynamically creates whatever devices that are neccessary when you log in (e.g., /dev/pts/) -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HOW to move one window from one desktop to another?
On Friday 08 October 2004 07:22, gimmy tang wrote: > Just like solaris. > gimmy from one desktop to another - function of the wnidow manager from one display to another - use xmove utility -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF "Ich bin ein Berliner!" John Kennedy, Berlin, 1963 "I am a Napoleon!" George Bush, USS Lincoln, 2003 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HOWTO build and package CMYK seperate plugin for the GIMP (SID)
On Friday 08 October 2004 02:50, Gerhard Gaussling wrote: > Hello, > > I'm running Sarge/SID. > > I want to build and package the gimp plugin Seperate [3], > which relies on the CMM of the little-cms [5] and seems to > make a first step toward the needed CMYK seperation in > the GIMP. To compile gimp2, try using apt-build to build the src deb. This will let you keep your gimp 1.3 and apt-build will grab all the build time dependencies for you. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF "Ich bin ein Berliner!" John Kennedy, Berlin, 1963 "I am a Napoleon!" George Bush, USS Lincoln, 2003 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: firewall + mail gw
On Thursday 07 October 2004 10:20, Carlos Alberto Pereira Gomes wrote: > I'd like to set up some kind of email server (in the firewall machine) that > collects all the emails for each user and let them read it with webmail or > outlook from the internal network, and let me use some kind of > spam/virus filter. > > What is the best combination of software that I should use to get this > solution? fetchmail - to fetch the remote mail from the various accounts and deliver it to local users. You would configure fetchmail to deliver the mail to localhost exim - the mail server, listening only on localhost spamassassin & razor - to check spam exiscan - the anti virus plugin for exim clamav - the virus scanner All in debian ... set up fetchmail and exim first and get it working. Then get spamassassin, exiscan and clamv plugged in. there's lots of docs for integrating exim (3 or 4) working with all this. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF "Ich bin ein Berliner!" John Kennedy, Berlin, 1963 "I am a Napoleon!" George Bush, USS Lincoln, 2003 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: printing Woody
On Monday 04 October 2004 11:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Installed CUPS... and then did: > > /usr/sbin/lpadmin -p Laser -v parallel:/dev/lp0 -P /root/laser.ppd > > Got the following error: > lpadmin: add-printer failed: client-error-not-found tried: /usr/sbin/lpadmin -E -p Laser -v parallel:/dev/lp0 -P /root/laser.ppd ? -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF "Ich bin ein Berliner!" John Kennedy, Berlin, 1963 "I am a Napoleon!" George Bush, USS Lincoln, 2003 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dist-upgrade . . . to what?
On Saturday 02 October 2004 21:19, David A. Cobb wrote: > I can't find anything in the docs to give me a clue. > If I do apt-get dist-upgrade, how do I direct it which of [stable, > testing, unstable] to target? Or am I misunderstanding the whole thing? > > Dist-upgrade seems to have been the cause of my present brokenness -- a > lot of packages got removed or downgraded. Right now I've > fiddled sources.list so only 'testing' stuff is visible, since that is > where I want to go. Isn't there a "better" way? > > It looked as though the "-o=whatever" was the trick, but I can't put > anything there that doesn't get a complaint. If you wish to go from one branch to another (e.g., stable to testing) you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list, then do your update/dist-upgrade. dist-upgrade handles dependencies differently from "upgrade", which will never remove anything - "dist-upgrade" might. You still need to change the branch in sources.list to dist-upgrade to a different branch. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there a stable mail client for linux?
On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 02:50:40PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: > On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 10:02:52AM -0400, Ed Sutherland wrote: > > Is there a secure, solid and stable e-mail client built for linux? > > No. Every mail client in existence is utter crap, including mutt and > gnus. The best you can hope for is something that is barely tolerable, > and I'm still searching for it... I use kmail mostly, and I'm satisfied with it, but I wish the vfolder feature worked better. I like gpg integration and a lot of the other features. Evolution is rumored to a have a mature vfolder implementation ... -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "resolving host"
On Thursday 30 September 2004 19:45, Ralph Katz wrote: > > Subject: "resolving host" > > Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:14:42 -0500 > > From: Your Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Newsgroups: linux.debian.user > > > > I wonder why browsing is so slow with Mozilla in > > Debian (well, Libranet). > > > > Using the ip addresses of websites it is blazing > > fast.. but using the www address it is slower than > > molasses in January. > > > > Not just Mozilla, but even Firefox and Galeon > > behave the same way. > > > > I do not have this problem in my FC2 box. > > > > Any ideas? (besides dumping Libranet/Debian, I mean).. What dns servers are you using in your resolv.conf? the dig tool prints the time it took to resolve names - do some experimenting with it. dnstracer can also be helpful. are you running any dns caching utility, like nscd? are they configured properly? -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SSH Cracking Attempts
On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 08:58:26AM -0500, Jacob S wrote: > No, I already have root logins disabled via ssh. Now I'd like to get > something setup that starts blocking ips automatically when it sees a > certain number of failed logins. Not blocking based on username, but > blocking based on ip addresses or even mac addresses (since I notice > iptables is capable of filtering on mac addresses). Filtering by MAC address is only possible on your local network, unless you simply wish to block your own isp's routers. I don't think one should ever be writing firewall rules based on MAC addresses, unless you are "fixing" something that is broken and can't be fixed any other way ... the whole point of the higher level abstraction of tcp/ip is that we don't have to deal with mac addresses. There's really no reason to be blocking addresses "automatically" based on certain criteria; it usually doesn't make you any less vulnerable and complicates things unneccessarily; it's just more trouble than it's worth.. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /bin contents
On Wednesday 29 September 2004 21:03, Tim Kelley wrote:
> On Wednesday 29 September 2004 13:28, Don Hayward wrote:
> > Is there a package that contains the standard contents of the /bin
> > directory? I erred.
>
> The following should get all the packages which had files in /bin
> reinstalled: (one line)
>
> apt-get install --reinstall `dpkg -S /bin/[a-z]* | awk
> 'BEGIN{FS=":"};{print $1}' | sort | uniq`
actually that won't work since you don't have /bin/sh ...
you may need to somehow get coreutils and bash installed first.
hope you didn't log out ...
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Re: /bin contents
On Wednesday 29 September 2004 13:28, Don Hayward wrote:
> Is there a package that contains the standard contents of the /bin
> directory? I erred.
The following should get all the packages which had files in /bin reinstalled:
(one line)
apt-get install --reinstall `dpkg -S /bin/[a-z]* | awk 'BEGIN{FS=":"};{print
$1}' | sort | uniq`
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Re: Lost printing from OpenOffice; spadmin doesn't add printer
On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 07:37:54PM +, Pedro M. (Morphix User) wrote: > I am sure we need a standard, easy, free(freedom), free( gratis) system > for printing in Linux, in a similar way to Windows (relating to standard > and easy). There is, it is cups. the problem is 1) win printers 2) crummy drivers from manufacturers (namely, HP IJS) 3) clunky hacks to deal with non postscript printers 3) depends on the printer but cups provides a nice framework for dealing with any printer. But I do think foomatic is a mess and many of them don't really support all the printers features and are exceedingly slow. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VIA sound problem
On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 11:47:17AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 09:39:02AM -0400, Jim Lynch wrote: > > > > Just as an aside, I installed CUPS and I can't print. It says there > > isn't anything connected to the port, however during install it went out > > and found the printer and reported back to me that it was the HP > > LaserJet 6L so at some point something found a printer connected to the > > port. > The only pronter I've been able to get to work with Debian is a networked > HP printer. CUPS seems to be able to find things on my LAN, given the IP nomber. > > My Epson 777 priter is all properly configures, but when I print to > it, nothing happens except that after a while CUPS thinks it has > been printed. Cups works great when you have a postscript printer ... otherwise you are using some driver that cups calls via a special type of ppd file which could range from "works ok" to "kludgy hack". For non-postscript HP printers lprng with if-hp drivers work well. I've never had much luck getting modern ink jets working with cups (unless they are postscript, which a few are). Buy a postscript module for your printer, though, and your unix printing problems are over. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: partition /var is full
On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 11:07:03PM +0100, Gerard Robin wrote: > > Hello, > I have a problem with my partition /var which seems to be too small. > When it is full my system deosn't work fine, for example: fetchmail can't > download my messages in /var/mail/mylogin. > To solve the problem temporarily, I have removed the biggest files in > /var/log/. > How can I solve this problem neatly ? > Thinks in advance for your reply or for a link which gives me a hint > for good solution ? use symlinks. However, all those filesystems are a little small - is this one disk? There's no need to go overboard with all those filesystems unless you really do have different drive spindles to put them on. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux Installation with SCSI Drive
On Sunday 26 September 2004 23:26, Nick Lidakis wrote: > Ronald wrote: > > I often try out (installing) Linux distributions, so > > this is an I/O intensive operation (writing to the drive). > I was wondering the same and was about to post a similar message to the > list. I feel as if my up-to-date Debian box (P4 3GHZ / Intel 875PBZ / 1 > GIG RAM / WD ATA 133 Caviar SE) is somehow baing held back bit its on > board controller and PATA hard disk, even though I have this disk > optimized via hdparm. I feel the system to be jerky/slugish when opening > up multiple applications at a time and when copying files. I was also > hoping for fatser boot times via a SCSI system but always read > conflicting reports regarding the pros of scsi on the desktop. I don't recommend SCSI, really, and I am a (shame faced) SCSI fetishist. Yes, it is a little faster, and if the whole system is SCSI, it will be more responsive. You would be better off with perhaps SCSI DVD / CD recorder and SATA disks. That's a good combo. Unless you have money to burn. No, it isn't worth it on a home system. I *happened* to luck out buying used stuff. This has not been the case in the past - bad IBM ServRAID, flaky AMI MegaRAID, bad cables, etc. LVD cables and terminators are not that cheap either. You might want to check some bonnie++ benchmarks I did this week with some scsi drives and a couple of different controllers: http://www.it.kpt.cc/~tpk/res.html The results show that really even with RAID5 (software), you aren't getting much more throughput than with a single drive; probably not until you have 5 or 6 drives in there are you going to see it really scream. Do you want to buy a 600w power supply too? :) Unless you go RAID0, which most likely insane, depending on your needs. The IBM udma100 drive also compares quite favorably with the Quantum Atlas, really. Though I must say the Quantums feel a lot faster in practice than bonnie suggests. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Via CLE266 Graphics
On Thursday 23 September 2004 07:02, David Dorward wrote: > Andrea Vettorello wrote: > Adding that didn't work. I'll try a new kernel and then build the DRM > module this evening. If you just want to get a working X, forget about drm and agpgart, just try to get X working. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: samba versus nfs
On Friday 24 September 2004 07:23, Stephen Tait wrote: > At 12:58 24/09/2004, you wrote: > >Hello, > > > >If I have a file server that has a samba server installed and is accessed > > by both linux and WinXP machines do I really need NFS installed and > > running? My understanding is that samba is more secure than NFS and since > > one can mount a samba server from a linux machine via mntsamba I am > > wondering if there is any reason to use NFS? Any thoughts? > NFS allows for faster transfers than I can achieve through samba, with less > CPU utilisation than smbd. I'm not sure where the "lack of security" comes > from though; NFS is quite easy to lock down. It's one downside is that IIRC > it doesn't use encrypted passwords and so is vulnerable to packet sniffing, > but since I only use it on small trusted LAN's this isn't a concern for me. For speed I get about the same, using nfs3 over tcp. NFS over udp (default in linux) is way slower than samba in my experience. NFS is far more convenient in all unix environments, especially combined with NIS or ldap and an automounter. The security issues are due to the fact that nfs environments are usually running several daemons (statd, mountd, nfsd, lockd, portmapper) as opposed to one (smbd) and many of those unix rpc related services have an absolutely atrocious security history. Either way, neither samba nor nfs should be exposed publically whatsoever, so on a private internal lan either is fine. There's really no reason to use nfs in an environment with windows pc's and linux servers. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to disable /tmp clean on boot
On Friday 24 September 2004 07:33, Vijaya S wrote: > Hi all, > > When Debian is booted i find that /tmp is cleaned.. > How do i disabled it? The correct way is to use /var/tmp for temp files instead; /tmp is supposed to be cleaned on boot, /var/tmp is supposed to remain. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache 2 error log - Looks like somebody has been trying to break into my machine HELP
On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 10:17:54PM +0100, Charlie Grosvenor wrote: > I believe that somebody has been trying to break into my machine via > apache2. I have the following in my In my apache2 error log > /var/log/apache2/error.log can somebody explain how they have managed this? > How have I miss configured apache2 to allow this? That was not an apache log, that was the output of a session on your machine. Obviously someone did already break in and tried to compile eggdrop on this machine, but it looks like they were unsuccessful. I would re do this machine from scratch and be more careful next time. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: All these open ports
On Tuesday 21 September 2004 04:57, Tom Allison wrote: > > At the risk of provoking the usual "WELL GO RUN WINDOWS THEN!!!" > > knee-jerk reaction, I will mention that the Gatesware-based firewall > > packages (like "Zone Alarm") will detect *outgoing* connection attempts > > and query whether they are legitimate. > > > > There has been some dicsuscion on the net w/r/t the fact that apparently > > the later (per)versions of Gatesware have some "trojans" embedded in the > > OS, which will connect to Billsoft to report your social security > > number, sexual preference, etc. etc. - the point being that (allegedly) Well, there isn't any easy way i know of to do this on linux, however, it really is a case of a solution in search of a problem. This sort of thing really isn't an issue with free software, or really with any properly designed system. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Delays accesing some urls from debian
On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 09:46:10AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > I just tried it from my Debian box at the office; took about 51 seconds, > 50 of which were spent "resolving www.nytimes.com". A traceroute gets > about 13 hops down the route and then hits a major snag just after > ge-1-2.a00.nycmny01.us.da.verio.net, getting nothing but three *'s on > each hop thereafter. (I'm too traceroute-illiterate to know what this > means, but I'm pretty sure it's not supposed to do that). It means the ttl-exceeded message traceroute was expecting back from the packet it sent never arrived, usually it's due to firewalls blocking outbound icmp. If you want to know how long it takes to resolve a hosts name, dig is the best way, it informs you how long the transaction took in the output. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Preinstalled System
On Monday 20 September 2004 19:02, robin wrote: > >"Sid" is the testing kernel and is more advanced than > >"Sarge" and will cause you problems; stay away from > >that one. > > I would disagree. For a production machine definitely but maybe not a > desktop machine. I have run unstable without any problems for 18 months. > Maybe I've been lucky but debian in all its forms is one of the most > stable linux distribution I have run. I've been using unstable on my dektop for five years now, and I have to disagree. It's really a matter of what you're willing to put up with. Woody, when it was released, was a little of a heartbreak as far as desktop software goes; much of it was quite outdated when woody was released. Sarge is not, and most of the desktop software is very mature. With sid, I just have gotten tired of things breaking. It's never anything crippling, but it gets fatiguing after a while. Mostly these things show up when others come over and use my computer, and find that something's broken I almost never use. It almost always something i can fix in 10 minutes, but I don't want to deal with that anymore at all. I'll definitely be moving to sarge from sid when it goes stable. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [exim4debian] Re: Debian-exim - blech!
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 01:07:52PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 09:48:43AM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote: > > "mail" is and always has been a standard system account: > > "mail" is also the account that owns the mail spool, hence all MUAs > run sgid mail per policy. Running the MTA as mail as well would mean > that the MTA's queue would have to belong to mail as well, giving MUAs > read access to the MTA's queue, which is a significant security risk. That's funny, none of the MUA's on my debian systems are sgid mail, nor is anything of the kind written in the debian policy that I can see. > > nor of files that exim4 did not install. > > So we shouldn't purge the mail queue and hints database? Since policy > requires a purged package to vanish without leaving any trace of its > installation, that would be a policy violation. Huh? There is no such policy. The policy defines "purge" as "removing everything in it's file list except conffiles", and since the package's file list could not possibly contain files created post installation, it cannot delete anything in the system mail directory. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DLT7000 block size
On Friday 10 September 2004 07:59, Gabor Melis wrote: > After heavy googling I tried passing tar the block size explicitly with -b > (for both invocations). It is not until '-b 216' that tar finally manages > to read back the archive. I can find no documentation for the Quantum > DLT7000 that mentions a minimum block size and since it is a critical > server I'm a bit worried about this magic number that _seems_ to make it > work. > # cat /proc/scsi/scsi > Attached devices: > Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 > Vendor: MegaRAID Model: LD0 RAID5 39760R Rev: 2.48 > Type: Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02 > Host: scsi0 Channel: 04 Id: 06 Lun: 00 > Vendor: PE/PVModel: 1x6 SCSI BP Rev: 1.1 > Type: ProcessorANSI SCSI revision: 02 > Host: scsi0 Channel: 05 Id: 06 Lun: 00 > Vendor: QUANTUM Model: DLT7000 Rev: 2561 > Type: Sequential-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02 Are you sure the raid controller will support tape drives? Strictly speaking, it should, but many do not like anything but disks attached to them. Have you asked Dell? Is your tape SE, HVD or LVD? Are you sure the cabling is correct? Termination? -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cheap network card supported by linux
On Friday 10 September 2004 14:40, Alvin Oga wrote: > if you want network performance... you have to spend a day tuning it > and testing it and changing the tcp/ip parameters and hope your nic > can also keep up ( most all of um fail ... none can run(sustained) at > even 50% of its 100Mbps or 1000Mbps rated speeds ) > > $5 for a cheap rt1839too or $150 intel is it worth the difference ? > - depends .. Intel Gigabit adapters are only $45 US, and they perform admirably. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tripwire
On Friday 10 September 2004 03:48, David Baron wrote: > Anyone using this on Debian? > > This is a file-system integrity checker, will detect hacks, intrusions, > etc. I tried it but seems to find lots of stuff that seem part of the > dynamics of the ongoing system operation, and attempts to change its > "policy" are crippled by all these items. Examples are things deleted from > /proc// numbered subfolders that seem to correspond to processes > that start and end on the system, permissions in .../.kde subdirectories > which I certainly did not touch within the lifetime of this test, INODES > also touching /proc/ stuff. Welcome to tripwire. It really is mostly useless except on public systems that you never mess with, but are very worried about. You can tweak the settings in /etc/tripwire though, to get it to be at least somewhat useful. Debian gives a good start for a configuration file for it. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bandwidth management
On Friday 10 September 2004 10:53, Delta Sierra wrote: > hi guys, > > i'm just finish installing woody for our gateway. > Is there any bandwidth management tool in dist? The QOS stuff in the kernel is good, but the iproute version in woody (the tools to manipulate the kernel features) is showing its age. Take a look at the Linux Advanced Routing & Traffic Control How-To. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to set up CUPS client
On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 11:35:08AM -0400, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > For the benefit of anyone else trying this, you don't have to touch > anything on the client machine(s). Just the default install of the basic > CUPS packages is needed on the client. The CUPS daemon running on the > client will then automatically discover the printer(s) on the local > network, and the printcap file for the remote printer will show up at > /var/run/cups/printcap on the client. At that point, the remote printer > will be available to your applications to print from. What's wrong with just putting the servers name in /etc/cups/client.conf? There's no need to be running another daemon ... all you need in debian to use cups on another server is cupsys-client and it's depends. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: php connection to apache
On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 10:32:59AM -0700, belahcene abdelkader wrote: > Hi every body, > I want ask a question about php/apache? > When I send throw a post method from a form a > variable, the called file(php ) doesn't receive it > Probably you have register globals turned off ... (a new default) you may want to take a look at /etc/php4/apache/php.ini -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Squid Proxy Permission
On Monday 06 September 2004 08:13, My Linux wrote: > Hi! > > Can squid proxy configure control user authentication and desktop IP > control..? Squid can do ntlm authentication, or ip based access. I don't think it's pam aware. But does it really matter? Not sure what you mean by "desktop ip control" -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux Installation with SCSI Drive
On Monday 06 September 2004 00:00, Ronald wrote: > I often try out (installing) Linux distributions, so > this is an I/O intensive operation (writing to the drive). > > Would using SCSI drive significantly improve the installing > time? (halve it?) Yes, from CD/DVD of course. > FYI currently I use Seagate 7200.7 80 GB and to get > full 3 GB install takes around ~10 to 20 minutes. Hmm, a full (everything that doesn't conflict i guess) install of debian is more like 12GB! This must be woody ... > Motherboard is Abit KG7-Raid which doesn't have inbuilt > SCSI adapter, so I have to buy a separate adapter. > CPU is Athlon XP 2400+ with 512 MB RAM. > And the drive I want to get is probably > Seagate Cheetah 15K.3: 18 GB, 15,000 prm Ultra320 SCSI > http://www.seagate.com/cda/products/discsales/marketing/detail/0,1081,619,0 >0.html Really it probably isn't worth it. My system is all SCSI (hardware raid and SCSI dvd and cdwriter) and although it is very responsive and never jerky (I mean never), it really doesn't justify the cost on a home pc. I assembled a Frankenstein system though, of somewhat older equipment that was cheaper (most from ebay). If you mobo has onboard ide raid I would just go with that, unless you got money to burn. If you do I would get an adaptec or bus logic controller though, the linux drivers are very good. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dock Appts II
On Friday 03 September 2004 17:01, John Lowell wrote: > 1. Is the Debian versioning system so rigid as too require only the > installation of Debian packages? I ask because installation of "stable" > and "unstable " packages is clearly discouraged and it occured to me > that the use of non-Debian packages might equally be discouraged. The > dock appts I'm considering are in most cases non-Debian packages and in > the few instances where they are Debian packages, they're "unstable" or > "stable". For little trivial things like dockapps, well, I wouldn't care, but it can get messy. If you are going to use pinning and grab stuff from different branches, it is really best to grab the src-deb with apt-build and compile it (well there's no apt-build in woody, so you'll have to compile src-debs manually if using woody). Mostly, like every other linux distro, packages compiled for other distros don't work. Thankfully, debian has almost *everything*. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Howto Observe My DSL Router Traffice Load...?
On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 11:04:46AM -0500, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote: > Documentation on munin is pretty sparse. Can you give a basic > example of what to put in munin.conf to create some basic load graphs > from the localhost? [localhost] address 127.0.0.1 use_node_name = yes This will cause the collector/grapher to contact the munin node running on localhost. Of course munin-node must also be running on localhost. To configure munin-node you just install it and make symlinks from /usr/share/munin/plugins to /etc/munin/plugins for the things you want to graph. (these are the locations from the debian packages) Note that the plugins can be almost anything, most are sh or perl. It can graph any script that can spit out numbers. For a router you would use a script that used snmpget to grab the various objectID's from the router you wanted to track. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Howto Observe My DSL Router Traffice Load...?
On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 01:30:52PM +0530, Nayyar Ahmed wrote: > Hello All, > > I am connected to a DSL Router in my office who's IP is > 192.168.1.1 and i wana check its traffice load and Bandwidth > consumption...how can I as my machine IP is 192.168.1.252 You could use mrtg or munin for this (both have debian packages). Munin is much easier to set up and more flexible. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Integrating creating users through WebMin
On Mon, Aug 30, 2004 at 02:53:50PM -0700, Curtis Vaughan wrote: > Currently we have a RedHat 8 server that was a special order to do the > following: > When I create a user through WebMin, it automatically creates a samba > user profile for them, and a MailDir for Postfix. > > Well, that server is getting old and I can't update samba, for example, > without killing it's integration w/WebMin. > > So, my question is whether anything similar has been developed under > Debian. All of our other servers are Debian and I feel more > comfortable with it. Not that I know of, but a simple wrapper to the adduser script (or whatever it is webmin calls) and some mods to /etc/skel would do fine. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PowerEdge 700 SATA anyone?
On Mon, Aug 30, 2004 at 12:48:49PM -0700, Richard Weil wrote: > I have a Dell PowerEdge 600SC which is SATA. I got it at the beginning > of the year. I run Sarge on it no problems w/ the 2.6.7 kernel. > > It comes with some crap on the drive. I did a fresh install, wiping the > drive clean in the process and I've had no problems. I just installed > Sarge on another system and the rc installer is great (netinst cd > image). Enter "expert" at the boot prompt in the install and you'll be > able to install the 2.6.7 kernel right from the start. I would leave the "crap" on the drive, it's just about 30MB worth of DOS utilities and some windowzy gunk for the Dell reps to use if you even have a problem with the hardware. Generally they'll insist on running this stuff before sending out any replacements. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Working backup solution?
On Sunday 29 August 2004 02:33, Didde Brockman wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to find a decent backup solution for our 5 Debian systems – > all on Dell hardhardware. Been looking at the Dell PowerVault 122 as it > seems to fit our needs quite good in terms of capacity (640Gb max). > > I'm now curious as to see if anyone out there have been successful in > settings it up and running it along with Amanda or similar on Debian. > If you have a better suggestion or any kind of help / advise on what's > working for you, please let me know! All i can say is, do some good research before assuming something like amanda will work properly with your tape robot. The commercial alternatives are very, very expensive. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF
Re: "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable"
On Saturday 28 August 2004 03:11, Phil Thomson wrote: > TIA. This is my first time installing Debian, and I'm not a Linux wizard at > the best of times. Some of these questions may appear basic, but I'm just > trying to learn how to do this stuff. You can reply to me offlist if you > want. Just turn your eth0 card off ifdown eth0 unload the driver modprobe -r rtl8139 load the new one modprobe 8139too bring the card back up ifup eth0 lastly, edit /etc/modules and remove rtl8139 permanently, replace with the other one. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Modems for Linux?
On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 12:24:28AM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: > Hi, > > My existing dialup modem does not have linux drivers (its one of those > winmodems), and so am planning on buying a new modem for my machine. I > checked around the net for a list of modems that are known to work > with linux (hardware modems preferred, if not winmodems that do have > drivers for linux) ... but couldn't find anything concrete. Any ideas > where I can find such info? Any "hardware" modem will work fine; which includes by neccessity all external modems. Such a modem will only require the OS to have a serial driver, which linux has. So just get an external or buy an old one. ebay probably has plenty of them dirt cheap. Multitech and Zyxel are the most well respected brands. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Snort default config ?
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 10:27:33AM -0500, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote: > Installed snort the other day and I am getting daily reports > from the default setup. I did nothing but install. > > So, is there anything I should/need do to this default config > for simple monitoring or/and a bit of added security or is > the default config adequate? > > I know this is a loaded question but I am asking primarily > about any simple/no brainer type of added configs that a > simple user might want/need. Depending on why you're using snort, if anything you may want to turn quite a few rules off. The default config alerts way too much ... -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fine-tuning du -h ?
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 04:06:45PM +0200, Josef Oswald wrote: > Sorry I was not clear here, I want to check more then _one_ directory, > at once: try du -csm /home/* and note the difference leaving the wildcard off the end makes. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HylaFax receives rubbish
On Tuesday 24 August 2004 10:56, Clement wrote: > Just tried Hylafax. After spending hours to play around, I finally got > Hyafax to receive fax. However, the pages received are just rubbish. When > I setup Hylafax to email received fax as a PDF to me, that PDF is a totally > white page. > > Do you know where can I start to find and fix the problem? > > Debian installed is Sarge, with kernel 2.6.7. Hylafax-server, hylafax-doc > and hylafax-client are all 4.1.8-13 > > The only suspicious thing in the installation is the complaint about > ghostscript fonts. I did this to quiet the complaint: > > ln -s /usr/share/fonts/type1/gsfonts /usr/share/gs-gpl/fonts > > This works to get hylafax to send. well first just simplify ... don't bother with email or translating formats ... just try to read the tiff files that hylafax creates when it receives a fax if the problem is with tiff files then you can usually force the modem to negotiate a more compatible format; there are all manner of tiff varieties and it can be a real PITA tiff libraries in sarge were recently upgraded to libtiff4 and this could be the issue is translation to postscript is the issue you should look at ghostscript ... check the BTS for hylafax and ghostscript -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: windowmanager stopped working
On Wednesday 25 August 2004 21:08, Tom Allison wrote: > Tim Kelley wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 05:18:31PM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: > >>OK, I finally got one of those annoying surprises. > >> > >> > >>No syslog entries. > >>No XFree log entries. > >>Executing 'startx' works perfectly, including the NVidia driver support. > >>dmesg | less doesn't show anything failing or warnings. > >> > >>I'm just stuck on a rather silently failing xdm login process. > >>I'm not sure where to look at this point. > > > > ~/.xsession-errors ? > > That was it!!! > > Corrupted .wmpinboard file killed it off. > removed it and it's back to 100%. Yeah, the XFree logs only show problems with the xserver (x|g|k)dm logs show probs with the display manager (and X) xsession-errors logs problems with your session once it's started Obviously your Xserver was fine since xdm would start ... and .xsession-errors can grow *quite* large if you have errors you don't notice! I've had it fill up disks. glad to be of help! -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Real Time monitoring/alerting utility..
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 08:14:50AM +1000, Michael Bellears wrote: > No - He wants to be notified immediately if an FTP or SSH connection is > established. Using snort and tailing the logfile, it doesn't get much more real time than that. Just modify the config files to treat all accesses as alerts. Use acidlab with it and you have a history of every access, ever. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: windowmanager stopped working
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 05:18:31PM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: > OK, I finally got one of those annoying surprises. > No syslog entries. > No XFree log entries. > Executing 'startx' works perfectly, including the NVidia driver support. > dmesg | less doesn't show anything failing or warnings. > > I'm just stuck on a rather silently failing xdm login process. > I'm not sure where to look at this point. ~/.xsession-errors ? -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 09:14:53PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: > John Hasler wrote: > Or even better maybe, four shorewall packages - the current one being > renamed shorewall-common and the others each depending on > shorewall-common and having sample configurations for one interface, two > (common gateway) three (like two but with DMZ). Huh? there are three shorewall packages shorewall shorewall-doc webmin-shorewall At any rate, the splitting up of packages is done for a variety of good reasons. Maybe you want the client and not the server. Maybe many other packages can get away with dependencies on "foo-common," rather than all of "foo." There lots of reasons why debian packagers do this and it usually is for good reason, not the least of which is courtesy to you, the user. > this is not a comment directed at Shorewalll so much as I've picked a > package with which I'm familiar, and which comes without config files it > will need. What's the problem is they are in /usr/share/doc/package/examples? It seems to me a perfectly sane way to do things. That's the standard place packagers put these things, especially configurations for packages like shorewall, which could completely break your system (or make it inaccessible) if incorrect, so leaving it out altogether makes pretty sure you aren't going to start it misconfigured. Debian makes extensive use of /usr/share/doc, so one really should look there for answers first. Speaking of which, as for splitting up packages, you might check the changelog.Debian.gz in the packages doc folder. The reason will probably be in there somewhere. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ask for fwbuilder, get AOHellServer?!? [stable/woody]
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 12:26:51PM -0600, s. keeling wrote: > What the heck is this? On the basis of recomendations from this list, > I decided I ought to look into fwbuilder. > > aptitude install fwbuilder apt-cache depends fwbuilder has no dependency on httpd, so I don't know how it got on your system; if you have sarge or sid you might try apt-cache rdepends to figure it out. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using SuSE9.1 software to upgrade X?
On Tuesday 24 August 2004 03:21, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > Hi all, > I got SuSE 9.1 professional edition and aliened some of its GUI packages to > produce .deb packages. These packages were specifically X-related since I > wanted a better GUI than that provided by woody 3.0r2. This most especially > applies to gnome which I want to upgrade to 2.4 that I find in SuSE. I was > not successful in my quest and would like some advise. Thanks. Well that is about the worst way to accomplish that I've ever heard of :) Try to find a backport of gnome for woody (look on backports.org) or Use sarge, it has gnome 2.6, and is going stable sometime soon anyway there may be other backports of gnome to woody, look around -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ ( t | i | m | @ | i | t | . | k | p | t | . | c | c ) \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ GPG key fingerprint = 1DEE CD9B 4808 F608 FBBF DC21 2807 D7D3 09CA 85BF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
