Re: branding debian releases
Morning, I vaguely suspect that renaming the releases won't actually solve the problem that it's meant to - reducing confusion among new Debian users. You're likely to just end up with a new set of labels to explain. Any name you come up with is going to be too short to fully explain the situation: call stable 'server', testing 'desktop' for example, and you still have to explain that the server release is good for desktops if you prefer stability over new stuff, and the desktop release might be good for a server if you need more recent packages and don't want to search for backports. You can't fit all that info into a short name. I run unstable on my desktop machine, stable on my mail server because I know what the names mean. Education as to what goes in to the various Debian releases is the key, and changing the release names doesn't do much for that. The current names for releases are pretty good, I think. The confusion comes from not knowing what the names apply to, not the names themselves. What's needed is not new names, but a rethink of the descriptions of releases as at http://www.debian.org/releases/. Instead of calling stable the one which we primarily recommend using., perhaps call it the one which we primarily recommend using when stablity is your main need. Testing then might be the one which we primarily recommend using when up to date software is your main need., and unstable the one which we primarily recommend using when you want the very latest and are willing to sacrifice stability. Or something like that. Explain what the release names mean more accurately, rather than use new names that will still need explanation. Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian and women? from DWN #10
* Rebecca Dridan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-25 18:37]: On the other hand, I'm not sure if anyone caught the issue on Full Disclosure. Check this link [0] to see how some females do get treated on tech lists. Bec [0] http://www.oneeyedcrow.net/securitygeekfemme.html I'm an op on the irc channel involved here. We've had a bunch of Gobble's people come in and behave like idiots, also a bit of [EMAIL PROTECTED] probing of the irc server. (Running Woody, and laughing in the face of such things). I guess this is because we're foolish enough to not ask women to give us blowjobs as an incentive to hiring them, which appears to be the Gobble's hiring strategy as shown in the irc logs. /motd Women are people. In fact women are more peoplish than you. You are a broken tennis bat. Unless the brazen evil fuctardedness displayed by Gooble's minions is stamped upon soon with a salted rubber wellington, then I expect that intelligent life on Earth will cease even earlier than the most pessimistic slug could have predicted. Sorry. Got a bit fed up with kicking Gobbles wankers lately. Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What up with www.debian.org ?
* Roberto Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-21 18:25]: Jerome BENOIT wrote: Hello All, What happens to www.debian.org ? Dan't know. I can't get to it either. Don't know if it's a related problem, but I'm having a terribly hard time finding a working mirror for apt just now. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rms on debian
* Mike Fedyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-08-20 09:18]: On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 01:19:42AM +1000, Tom Massey wrote: * Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-08-17 15:06]: RMS: When I recommend a GNU/Linux distribution, I choose based on ethical considerations. Today I would recommend GNU/LinEx, Hmm. I respect Mr Stallman's ethical position, but shouldn't he be a bit more consistent? If he wants to credit GNU as in GNU/Linux, shouldn't he also credit Linux as in GNU/Linux? Has the government of Extramadura written a kernel called LinEx that can be run as the kernel of a GNU system? Quite seriously, recognising the role that GNU has had to play, I think it's equally necessary to recognise the role of Linux. Why should anybody call it GNU/Linux over Linux if RMS endorses GNU/LinEx? God! (oh, wait this is the Debian list, nevermind) LinEx uses the same Linux that Debian does. Mmm, I realise that. I think you missed my point. Personally, I don't care what they call it, but Mr Stallman has a long history of caring very much that Linux have GNU added to the front. Given this, why is he not concerned when people start playing around with vowels? Would GNE/Linux be OK? I think that in order to recognise the joint contribution of GNU and Linux, I'll start running GNI/Lunix, because We are the *nix who say gni. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rms on debian
* Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-08-17 15:06]: RMS: When I recommend a GNU/Linux distribution, I choose based on ethical considerations. Today I would recommend GNU/LinEx, Hmm. I respect Mr Stallman's ethical position, but shouldn't he be a bit more consistent? If he wants to credit GNU as in GNU/Linux, shouldn't he also credit Linux as in GNU/Linux? Has the government of Extramadura written a kernel called LinEx that can be run as the kernel of a GNU system? Quite seriously, recognising the role that GNU has had to play, I think it's equally necessary to recognise the role of Linux. Why should anybody call it GNU/Linux over Linux if RMS endorses GNU/LinEx? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Does the GPL requires recognition?
* Aryan Ameri [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-04-05 23:53]: Hi there: A basic licensing question: Does the GNU GPL, requires authors of derivative works, to give credit to the original authors or not? I mean, let's say if I write a GPL program, and someone uses a portion of my code in his GPL software, is it mandatory for him to give me credit for my work? I think it depends on what copyright notice you attached to the original source code. I think that the author of a derivative work is only required to include any copyright notice and license found in the original work. If you, as the copyright holder, just include the GPL and state that you are licensing the software under the GPL without mentioning yourself by name as the copyright holder, I don't think the author of a derivative work is obliged to mention you. Possibly he is not obliged to mention you at all. The whole issue of copyright with the GPL is a bit dodgy IMHO. It says: conspicuously and appropriately publish on each copy an appropriate copyright notice How to read 'conspicuous' and 'appropriate' here? Have to wait for it to be defined in court. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose
* John Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-04-03 13:09]: what I'm after is a recommendation from others who might have used something like this to write 5,000 word plus english language documents. I've written a couple of 50,000 word novels, a 10,000 word Honours thesis, and numerous short stories using Emacs. I find Emacs more comfortable to use than vi/vim for longer works. The switching between command and edit modes in vi tends to break my concentration. In Emacs, I find it easier to stay focused on the writing rather than the commands needed to control the editer. But it's really a personal thing, which one you prefer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Where stands 'rc' for?
* David Fokkema [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-04-01 23:00]: What does 'rc' mean in: For a bit of history: http://kb.indiana.edu/data/abnd.html runcom (as in .cshrc or /etc/rc) The rc command derives from the runcom facility from the MIT CTSS system, ca. 1965. From Brian Kernighan and Dennis Ritchie, as told to Vicki Brown: There was a facility that would execute a bunch of commands stored in a file; it was called runcom for run commands, and the file began to be called a runcom. rc in Unix is a fossil from that usage. Note: The name of the shell from the Plan 9 operating system is also rc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Toy Story List
* Lindsay Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-03-29 22:45]: Well I guess an nix OS is the ultimate toy so y not name them after a story about such. When's Buzz gunna get his turn? He already has, for Debian 1.1. http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html#s-oldcodenames -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: security rating
* fLokNo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-11-29 21:24]: some time ago (more than a year) friend showed me a cool consolecommand to test the security rating of a system considering the opened ports and the os type etc. it said something like: the rating is 3462356; which is very good i think mine was like 435647... (w2k then). Sounds like nmap http://nmap.org, which is a port scanner. apt-get install nmap. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where to put pon ???!!
* Dave Selby [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-11-25 20:08]: Ive configured my pppd as dial on demand, it works great !!! Where do I put pon ? I want it to automatically be executed as I boot the system. No need to put pon in a startup script. I think what you want is to rename /etc/ppp/no_ppp_on_boot to /etc/ppp/ppp_on_boot. This will fire up pon on boot and get it ready to connect to 'provider', just as if you'd typed in pon yourself. If you've set it up to connect to somebody other than 'provider', have a read of /etc/ppp/no_ppp_on_boot and edit the default provider as required. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bind8 vs bind9
* Nathan E Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-11-19 15:51]: Uh, no. There's nothing proprietary about it. Have you read http://cr.yp.to/softwarelaw.html ? DJB's position seems to be that software licenses are unenforceable, so he chooses to not have one. Instead, he places restrictions on distribution (I assume he asserts his rights under copyright law as justification). See http://cr.yp.to/distributors.html According to the FSF definition of 'proprietary' http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html#ProprietarySoftware I think that DJB's software is proprietary because of the restrictions placed on distribution. You may be using a different definition of 'proprietary'. I think that DJB does have a license for his software to allow for certain types of distribution. http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html for example looks like a license to me. http://cr.yp.to/distributors.html is a waiver of certain rights provided by copyright preventing distribution - the rights set out at http://cr.yp.to/softwarelaw.html - so probably strictly shouldn't be called a license. I assume DJB thinks that his licensing scheme is enforcable, otherwise why use it? The enforcement element can be activated if people start distributing versions of his tools that he hasn't authorised for distribution. It seems to me that the point is not that software licenses as a whole are unenforcable, but that software licenses that aim to remove the rights provided by http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/117.html are unenforcable. These rights do not include the right to distribute modified software. The key difference between the GPL and DJB's licenses (I think) is that the GPL grants you much greater rights beyond these rights with regards to distribution. This is essentially why DJB's software is proprietary. If somebody starts distributing a new unauthorised version of qmail, DJB can say I didn't give you the right to do that. If somebody starts distributing a new version of exim, well that's what the GPL is all about. DJB's license is not a free software license according to http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html#NonFreeSoftwareLicense http://www.linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/#djb makes some interesting points about this issue. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using LILO to boot Linux/Win98
* Anand Parikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-26 22:49]: Next I set up the Linux HD as A (active) and Win98 HD as B (standby). I can boot up with Linux, but with Win98 the system just hangs, no error messages. How can I fix this problem? I think you'll find that Windows needs to be on the first drive. It's a bit fussy about where it's installed. Try switching the drives and it should work OK. Install LILO to the MBR of /dev/hda - the Windows disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using LILO to boot Linux/Win98
* ernst [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-26 23:25]: I really don't think you'll need windoze on hda1, well...I know you don't. Interesting. I've never had Windows 95/98 run happily from anywhere but the first primary partition. Not that I've particularly tried; always seemed just easier to put it there. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using LILO to boot Linux/Win98
* Anand Parikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-27 00:06]: I tried it with removing table but its the same problem with windoze. If I want to try with Win98 on HDA and Linux on HDB, how do I put LILO in the MBR of /dev/hda? What should boot point to in that case? I think /etc/lilo.conf should look something like: boot=/dev/hda delay=10 image=/vmlinuz root=/dev/hdb2 label=Linux other=/dev/hda1 table=/dev/hda label=Win98 But this is because I've only had success booting Windows 98 from /dev/hda1 - this is apparently not necessary. You might also try adding 'lba32' to the file, just under delay. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to request specific IPaddress with DHCP?
* mdevin [2002-09-21 22:42]: Hmmm, that is interesting. But how do I change my mac address? My ethernet card has this hard coded in its chip by the manufacturer. I can't see how you can override that. If you did, then the ARP system would break, right? You can use ifconfig to change the MAC address quite easily on a number of cards. You need to bring the interface down first, and then the command is something like: ifconfig eth0 hw ether 00:00:AA:AA:AA:AA Where eth0 is the interface you want to change and 00:00:AA:AA:AA:AA is the MAC address you want to give it. I'm not entirely sure what this does to ARP requests, but I think the system is robust enough that this doesn't break anything. This doesn't work on all cards, and usually the changed address only lasts until the next boot. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: about out-of-box
* John Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-18 12:43]: could you explain out-of-the-box and stock in the following? transforming a stock out of the box Red Hat installation into ... Just means changing the default installation with all the standard settings into ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: quick one about which realease I got
* Mike Egglestone [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-13 01:42]: but is there a quick fast way or command to see what I'm running? cat /etc/debian_version -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dependancy Analysis
On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 09:48:49PM -0400, Phillip Hofmeister wrote: I recalled a package (in woody) that would analyze your dependancies and point out unused libraries, etc. Does anyone recall what the name of that package is? deborphan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bradcast2000 for Woody?
On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 06:46:56PM -0400, stan wrote: Anyone know where i can get this? Add: deb http://http.demudi.org/debian woody local main contrib non-free to your /etc/apt/sources.list, then apt-get update, apt-get install bcast. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bradcast2000 for Woody?
On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 09:15:29PM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: I get this: Get:1 http://http.demudi.org woody/local bcast 2000c-1 [3373kB] Fetched 3373kB in 37s (90.1kB/s) Selecting previously deselected package bcast. (Reading database ... 82734 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking bcast (from .../bcast_2000c-1_i386.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/bcast_2000c-1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/cjpeg.1.gz', which is also in package libjpeg-progsErrors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/bcast_2000c-1_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) I don't have libjpeg-progs installed, so don't have this problem. You could uninstall libjpeg-progs I guess to install bcast. Note that this isn't an official Debian package. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Creating a boot disk?
On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 01:06:17PM +0100, Charlie Grosvenor wrote: How can I create a boot disk for my system? I am running woody with the 2.4.18-k7 kernel with initrd. I have one 20gb partition. Try 'mkboot'. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Making a boot floppy
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 07:05:01PM -0700, David Smead wrote: I just installed a new kernel and would like to make a boot floppy. I've wasted an hour on google and debian looking for how that is done. I.e. shove a floppy into the drive and type ENTER. Type 'mkboot' ENTER. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Modems - Drivers for
On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 11:23:35AM +1000, Maurice Helwig wrote: I am about to upgrade my modem ( currently a 33.3k hardware based ) . Can anyone give me advice concerning two types of software ( Win ) based modems. 1)Modems using Lucent chipsets Are probably the best supported software modems under Linux. It's generally quite easy to get these working, though make sure you get the Apollo or Mars Lucent chipsets - Lucent AMR modems don't work. http://www.heby.de/ltmodem 2)Modems using the Smartlink Chipsets, ( such as Skymaster ) Have some support but it is pretty limited. You're better off with Lucent, given the choice. http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/ for general info. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: check for root kit
On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 02:31:05PM +, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: There is a very small possibility that someone has intruded into our network. I would like to test my 3 woody machines for possible root kits. What is the best way of doing this? Should I check the md5sum of programs such as find, ps and ifconfig against the packaged versions? $ apt-cache show chkrootkit Description: Checks for signs of rootkits on the local system chkrootkit identifies whether the target computer is infected with a rootkit. May get you started. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Re: CALL FOR HELP
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 03:59:04PM -0600, Elizabeth Barham wrote: I responded to a similar letter a while back concerning the civil unrest in Nigeria and the plot of smuggling funds into the United States, but the recipient failed to respond. Have a look at http://home.rica.net/alphae/419coal/ and http://www.nigerianfraudwatch.org/. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using the menu system
On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 03:41:42AM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: what's this Menudrake all about? GUI menu editing system. any URL? http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Spotlight/MenuDrake/ Does MDK use the Debian's menu system? I don't think so.
Re: Accelerated NVidia XWindows ? ....
On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 08:26:40AM -0600, hanasaki wrote: It does not look like there is DRI support for the NVidia chips. How is acceleration and DRI accomplished. You need to use the driver available from http://nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=linux.
Re: Bizarre mouse pointer
On Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 11:35:34PM +0100, Nick Boalch wrote: I've just installed potato on a new box, and the mouse pointer under X appears very odd -- it's a large square about 60x60 pixels and looks something like bar code. The operation of the mouse is normal. Try adding the line: Option sw_cursor to your /etc/X11/XF86Config file, within the section that describes your video card.
Re: new kernel option
On Mon, Dec 24, 2001 at 02:05:52AM +0100, Jerome BENOIT wrote: Bonjour: I have just tried to build an SMP kernel: surprisingly some options can be seen in grey (when `make xconfig' is used) but they cannot be selected: apparently the Makefile does a pre-choice. How can we make all options available ? Say 'Y' to 'Prompt for development drivers' in 'Code maturity level'
Re: Internal Modem- compatibility
On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 12:10:14AM +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sub:Internal Modem -Comptibility I have an internal Modem Compaq Presario 56K-VSC.Request to find out whether it is compatible to Linux. It works well in Windows.Ramachandran.C This appears to be a Lucent based modem, and so will possibly work with the driver available from http://www.heby.de/ltmodem.
Re: Life related.
On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 10:45:10AM +0530, Jeffrin wrote: What is M-x life related stuff in emacs ? Can someone explain. This is another of the tidbits that makes Emacs more than just an editor, it's a whole life style choice. :-) 'M-x life' runs Conway's Game of Life - those little @'s running around are single celled creatures that multipy, move, die, etc to a set of rules laid out in the game. This page has a few similar bits of fun. http://www.linux-france.org/article/appli/emacs/manuel/html/amusements.html
Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 11:19:00AM +, Frank Zimmermann wrote: As long as your talking about servers this uptime thing is ok, but when talking about workstaions it's redicolous, premature and an unjustifiable waste of natural resources. offtopicish Is it really? Just thinking in terms of wastage of resources here. My understanding is that most of the electricity a workstation consumes goes into booting, the power consumed while running is much less than this. While running, most of the power seems to go to the monitor. So, I would think that a machine left running, with the monitor turned off when not in use (either through manually turning it off, or with power management etc) would actually be less of a drain on resources than one which is booted every day, with the huge drain that a boot seems to include. (Admittedly, most of my info on this is based on testing in the 486 era, but I don't see why it would have changed). /offtopicish
Re: How to apply a patch?
On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what...say again? actually this is what happens when I try to apply the patchperhaps it's bec. a wrong patch was applied? RRR:/usr/src# patch ext3-2.4-0.9.5-247ac3 Try something like: patch -p0 ext3-2.4-0.9.5-247ac3
Re: How to use Linux as a dial-up provider?
On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 09:49:16PM -0500, Kent West wrote: I don't know exactly the terminology to use. I'd like to set up a Linux box on the ethernet at home, slap a modem on it (attached to an analog line of course), and then dial-up from home to the modem, authenticate, and have internet access. In essence, I want to be my own ISP, allowing myself to dial into the T1 via my office Linux box. This might help: http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/ISP-Setup-RedHat-HOWTO-4.html#ss4.12 Based on RedHat, but the dialin part is pretty generic.
Re: Modem Question
On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 01:24:32PM -0400, Narasimhamurthy Giridhar wrote: Its a PCTel V.90 56K modem. Manf: MAC(this is what the WinME Hardware Config blah blah blah says). For general info that will help you: http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/ For specific PCTel info: http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/linmodem-howto/linmodem-howto-5.html#ss5.4
Re: Starting X directly
On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 03:36:59PM +0200, Julio Merino wrote: What I meant as security hole... I wanted to say if that kdm autologin is a security hole exploitable remotely? No, it's only a problem if you have evil people who have physical access to the machine so that they could reboot it and get logged in automatically. I think this is so anyway. Maybe if you started a remote X session it would be able to log you in, but I don't think it lets you do this. So no more a security hole then having a floppy drive in the machine into which somebody could stick a boot disk.
Re: Returned message - mailbox size exceeded - what's going on
On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 01:08:09PM +, Rajesh Fowkar wrote: I am subscribed to the list with gmx address. That mailbox in no case be full. Mmm, it's not complaining that your mailbox is full, it's complaining that the mailbox it's sending to is full. It's not an error at your end, it's just giving you a warning that it couldn't send an email to somebody you tried to send an email to. And remember that when you send email to a list, your message gets sent to everybody subscribed to that list. How I am getting those bounces from [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?, when I have sent the message to the list ? Because [EMAIL PROTECTED] is subscribed to the list, so every mail you send to the list gets sent there, as well as to everybody else who's subscribed to the list. Since heiliger's mail box is full and since you're listed in the From: line, you get an error message because the mail wasn't accepted.
Re: Something fishy is going on
On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Bill Wohler wrote: A fish just swam across my screen. What the hell is up with that? No need to panic, it's a Gnome easter egg. Unless you're not running Gnome.
Re: Choosing a Debian Variant
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 07:29:39AM -0700, Avdi B. Grimm wrote: Here's what I want out-of-box: No, I really shouldn't say it. But anyway. What you've just asked for reads almost exactly like the specs for Mandrake 8.1 (due out in a month or so). In my experience, you're not going to get this out-of-box from Debian, because it tends to focus on stability rather than bleeding edge (though you always have the option of moving to testing/unstable via apt-get and friends), whereas Mandrake sticks the latest version of everything in and tries to make it work together. Both paths have merits. But if you want the latest stuff, you're not going to find it in standard Debian without a fairly long upgrade process. Possibly Progeny and others have more recent packages while still being based on Debian, you might have some joy with them.
Re: Kernel image installed. Now what?
On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, I did an apt-get of the 2.2.19 kernel image .deb package and installed it. I went through the prompts, rebooted, and did a modconf. Still one problem - my system still says I have 2.2.10 installed. I checked my LILO.conf, changed the image= line to the vmlinuz-2.2.19 file and the map= line to System.map-2.2.19 or something like that. Did you run lilo after you made this change, before you rebooted?
Re: Kernel image installed. Now what?
On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I rebooted first. I take that I'm supposed to run lilo after I edit lilo.conf but *before* I reboot? Yes.
Re: Power down
On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, dude wrote: i am using 2.4.8 that my computer no longer shutoff when they are shutdown and i have to manually turn off the computers. What am i forgetting to do? In General Setup when using make config (or menu, x, whatever), have you set both Power Management Support and Advanced Power Management BIOS Support to Yes? You may need both.
Re: Lucent 56k Suddenly Stopped Working!
On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 01:04:17PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: making a backup of my old one. I tried the new kernel, and now when I run PPPD, I get an error saying it can't open /dev/modem OR /dev/ttyS14 (my modem). When I run minicom, it says I'm online already as soon as it initializes the modem and won't let me get a command in edgewise to dial or Possibly there's a lock file left over from an earlier attempt to dial. Check for /var/lock/LCK..modem, or /var/lock/LCK..ttyS14 and delete.
Re: Lucent 56k modem
On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 07:41:51PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know the Lucent 56k modem built into my Gateway Solo 5300cs is supported under Linux, but I can't seem to find any information on how to set it up. Can anyone tell me, or point me to a good HOWTO? Thanks. http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
Re: Corel Linux
On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 08:29:58PM +1000, Bruce wrote: I hope you can direct me. I have just bought corel linux and install it in its own partition. My problem is that i cant get my modem to initialise. It works quite well with windows me on the same machine, but when i query the modem on linux it returns nothing. The modem is a lucent v.90. can you assist? Bad news: You've got a winmodem which won't work under Linux except with some extra work on your part. Good news: It's a Lucent winmodem which is currently one of the best supported winmodems under Linux. Some pages you'll need to read are: http://www.linmodems.org http://linmodems.technion.ac.il http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/Linmodem-howto.html The driver you need can be downloaded from: http://www.heby.de/ltmodem It can be downloaded under Windows, but don't try to open the tar file under Windows or some of the scripts will be corrupted by DOS end of line characters. Copy it to your Linux partition and open it while running Linux using the command tar -zxvf ltmodem-6.00a.tar.gz. Read the 1ST-READ file, then read everything in the DOCs directory. You can also find help on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail list, but please read the documentation and try for yourself first, people who obviously haven't done this tend to get ignored.
Re: Screwed up cursor under X
On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 03:21:11PM +, Hereward Cooper wrote: Hi, I'm running an ATi AGP Rage (pro?) card with a proview monitor, and X 3.3.6. Under X my mouse point, rather than being a normally arrow, is now a white long and thin rectangular box with a couple of vertical transparent lines passing through it, and it happens under all window managers. It moves around fine, but causes me difficulties when trying to do precision work! Have you tried putting Option sw_cursor into your /etc/X11/XF86Config? I think this belongs in Section Device.
Re: RPM ...
On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 03:10:49PM -0500, Jonathan Daugherty wrote: Does anyone know of a really featureful and intelligent rpm update tool out there, besides these listed? Mandrake's urpmi, which has similar features to apt-get. Though I don't know if you'd get it to work with RedHat. http://www.linux.com/enhance/newsitem.phtml?sid=1aid=12474
Re: Screwed up cursor under X -- SOLVED
On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 04:48:20PM +, Hereward Cooper wrote: On Wednesday 18 July 2001 14:49, you wrote: Option sw_cursor Worked perfectly, thanks. What does it actually do? My understanding is it gets X to render the cursor in software rather than through your graphics card.
Re: winmodem
On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 02:55:29PM -0300, GARGIULO Eduardo INGDESI wrote: Hi all. I have a driver for my LT winmodem running on 2.2.12-20 kernel. Now, I had compiled 2.4.5 kernel, and when I try to load the driver, it tells unresolved symbols, and a message saying was compiled for 2.2.12-20 kernel. Is there a way to load the driver without the kernel check moudule version? Should I compile the kernel again? Do you know where can I found the sources for the ltmodem.o driver? Get an up to date version from http://www.heby.de/ltmodem. There's no way of getting your current version to work with a 2.4.5 kernel.
Re: enlightenment broken or what?
On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 02:29:46PM -0700, Reza wrote: Hi.. One thing I've noticed in my Enlightenment, is that There's no Configuration Menu, so the e-conf isn't there.. is it a broken package? Or should I do something with it, so the e-conf works? Please help me :) I think you'll find that e-conf is no longer used by Enlightenment - everything is now configured via the Settings menu.
Re: [OT] Attn: HP Pavilion 9680C (US) owners
On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 05:13:09PM +0200, Martin F. Krafft wrote: shipped their systems with that Conexant SoftK56 piece of junk modem. Is that the HSF or HSP version? If HSF, you might like to check out http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/Linmodem-howto.html And see if you can get it working under Linux.
Re: process w/o attached tty?
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 03:36:54PM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote: This doesn't answer the original question: background or not, when a terminal is closed, it HUPs all of its child processes. True, if you background a task you can use the Eterm to start other processes as well, but when you close that Eterm, anything you started from it will be HUPed, and will close unless you ran it through nohup. Depends on how you close the Eterm - if you close it by clicking on the close button of the window it's in, yes you're right. But if you exit from the shell with a Ctrl-D or 'exit' the Eterm closes and leaves backgrounded processes running. And I don't like messages vanishing into nohup.out instead of being displayed... :-)
Re: process w/o attached tty?
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 01:35:04AM -0700, Geoff Ludwiczak wrote: Hey, I have a question for you guys. Can you run a program and make it detach itself from the tty you run it from? Like say I open up an eterm, run xmms from it and then decide to close down eterm, but it'll close xmms with it. Any way to get it so it doesn't close xmms as well? A tty isn't really the same thing as an Eterm, but anyway to do what you want the simplest way is to run xmms in the background before closing the Eterm. You can do this by running xmms with: xmms (goes straight away into the background, you can do what you like with the Eterm) or, if you've already run xmms and later want to get rid of the Eterm: Click somewhere in the Eterm to get it's attention. Hit Ctrl-Z to temporarily stop xmms - it'll give you a message something like [1]+ Stopped xmms, and a prompt. Type bg, to background xmms, and then do what you like with the Eterm.
Re: What kind of attack is this?
On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 09:03:04AM -0400, Eugene Tyurin wrote: Hello, I've got 868 lines in my syslog with strange binary data (see attached file) that go on for about 17 minutes. This looks very strange, and I am not running any services open to the outside world (except through portsentry). Any ideas/suggestions? Looks like an attempted buffer overflow to me. If you're sure that you don't have an externally available services then you can probably just ignore it. Could be worth sending mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], if you have their IP number logged and want to follow it up.
Re: Message on console not updated
On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 06:02:57AM +0200, Evrard Nicolas wrote: I did an update of my kernel 2.2 - 2.4, and I expected the message on the console (i.e. Debian GNU/Linux ver hostname ttyn?) to be updated but it still Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 Nutella ( Well, I love chocolate :) ). It displays the Debian version, not the kernel version there. eg Mine currently says 'testing/unstable'.
Re: icq through masqueraded firewall /socks4
Paul Haesler wrote: Hi all, Look, I'm trying to get icq working on windoze client computers on the private LAN through a Debian masquerading gateway (ipchains - kernel 2.2.19). Have you tried using the ip_masq_icq module from http://members.tripod.com/~djsf/masq-icq/? I used it with a 2.2.19 kernel in a similar situation. You need to add something like this to your firewall script: insmod ip_masq_icq ports=4000,4001,4002,4003,4004,4005,4006,4007,4008,4009,4010,4011 range=60200,61000 tcp_timeout=14400 tcp_fin_timeout=60 limit=512 log=i And possibly set ICQ to use those ports (I have a vague recollection that it does so by default anyway). Or upgrade to a 2.4 kernel - iptables is very much nicer for doing this. :-)
Re: icq through masqueraded firewall /socks4
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 05:20:18PM +1000, Paul Haesler wrote: Tom Massey wrote: Have you tried using the ip_masq_icq module from http://members.tripod.com/~djsf/masq-icq/? I used it with a 2.2.19 kernel in a similar situation. I looked into that, but that URL doesn't work. You just get an html document back. Ah yes, that's Tripod's weird downloads page. The file is there, but you have to click through a few pages to get to it. Actually, I've probably got a copy of it lying around somewhere I could email to you if you're interested in trying it.
Re: Winmodem translator?
On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Nathan E Norman wrote: On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 07:34:24AM +0200, Robert Voigt wrote: Not any more. There is now a driver available as source for this particular Lucent chipset (if we talk about the same thing) used in some notebook modems. It works fine here. Oh? That's good news :) Where can it be found? http://www.heby.de/ltmodem. Note that this is *not* fully open source - it contains a binary object file with the proprietary stuff, with some code that allows it to be compiled against pretty much any 2.2 or 2.4 kernel.
