Re: Two questions (Archive search + Dpkg frontend for X)
At 20:28 27/11/2001 -0500, dman wrote: A GUI can do the things the designer thought of quite easily, but they can't do anything else easily. Pipes and filters allow fairly simple programs to be combined to perform complex and unique operations quite easily, once the learning curve of the utilities is overcome. (BTW I have a fair amount of experience in developing GUI apps) Agreed, of course. Winzip and Notepad weren't made to extract the names of the classes from a Jar file, and a command line with more general commands would do the work much more easily. But what if there was a Graphical Interface for this specific task? What if you could press a button, select a file and receive the desired report formatted on your favorite font, ready to print out? I know it's exaggerated, but it's just an example. New and uncommon tasks (like the one your Boss asked you) are command line tasks. Everyday stuff is for X. Whatever we develop, we have to make it stable and as bugless as possible first, but then we have to think about user-friendliness too. If Linux were more user-friendly, people wouldn't still be stuck on Windows. Again, that's what I think... Peace, - Vítor __ Vítor Estêvão Silva Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two questions (Archive search + Dpkg frontend for X)
At 14:49 27/11/2001 -0800, Brian Nelson wrote: It probably didn't show any matches because the string "dpkg frontend for X" didn't appear in the archives. Try separating the words with ;. Thanks. I'll try that. > Question two: I'm looking for a good graphical frontend for > dpkg, sort of like a dselect for X. Any suggestions? I'm using potato > and don't want to upgrade to unstable, so I need it to be on a potato > deb package. No. The only frontends for dpkg that seem to be stable and reliable enough for everyday use is dselect and apt. Why would you want it to be graphical anyway? Well, graphical interfaces are easier to use and generally more powerful than text-based interfaces. I wish I had a graphical interface for everything I do in my computer. __ Vítor Estêvão Silva Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Two questions (Archive search + Dpkg frontend for X)
Hello everyone, Question one: when I'm using the archive search form on http://lists.debian.org/search.html, if I select all quarters on the Date Filter, does it search in all quarters or just the first quarter of the selection? I searched for "dpkg frontend for X" and it returned "No matches" when I marked all quarters. Question two: I'm looking for a good graphical frontend for dpkg, sort of like a dselect for X. Any suggestions? I'm using potato and don't want to upgrade to unstable, so I need it to be on a potato deb package. Thanks in advance, - Vítor __ Vítor Estêvão Silva Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Win2000 , Debian Dual Boot
At 11:39 20/11/2001 +0100, Albert Heijn wrote: Installed windows first then Debian . Cant tell the version of grub right now ... but it is the version from Debian testing . If you have another Linux box available, log on it, download the latest GRUB images and docs and make a GRUB boot floppy. Put a blank floppy on your drive and on the same dir as the images, do: # dd if=stage1 of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 count=1 # dd if=stage2 of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 seek=1 Use the floppy to boot your system and correct the problem. Guessing your Win2000 is on (hd0,0) and your Debian is on (hd0,1), do: To boot win2k: root (hd0,0) chainloader +1 makeactive boot To boot debian: kernel (hd0,1)/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 Once you boot up again, you can check what's wrong with grub and maybe do a grub-install again. __ Vítor Estêvão Silva Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 doubts
At 22:04 9/11/2001 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear members , I have 2 doubts : 1) How do you take lilo out of MBR in a fully functional Win-Lin dual-boot machine ? 2) How do you write (manually) either the Win 98 boot loader or the Win 2K/Win NT boot loader to MBR ? Seems like you want to use many different operating systems on the same machine, right? IMHO, best aproach now would be to download grub (www.gnu.org/software/grub), make a grub boot floppy, read the documentation (especially the examples) and install it. You'll not need any other bootloader ever again. __ Vítor Estêvão Silva Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting Grub to Recognize Kernel Update to 2.4.12
At 23:09 25/10/2001 -0400, eDoc wrote: > To boot the kernel from /dev/hda2 with ide bus speed set to 66MHz, enter on > the GRUB command line: > root (hd0,1) OK. > kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 idebus=66 When I enter this I get an "Error 15: File not found" What is it that it cannot find and how do I go about repairing that, please? Thanks! Doc Have you tried the command 'find'? I don't know if it works with any file (so I don't know if 'find /boot/vmlinuz' would work), but if your stage1 file is in /boot/grub/stage1, try using 'find /boot/grub/stage1' and it will tell you which partition that is. Then, use that partition with the command 'root'. If your grub version is old, maybe you'll need a newer version of grub on a boot disk. Check out www.gnu.org/software/grub/index.html for more info on that. __ Vítor Estêvão Silva Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Modem PCTel HSP56Micromodem on-board funciona no Debian 2.2 r3?
At 00:07 22/10/2001 -0200, André Muniz Costa wrote: Olá, Já testei várias distribuições do Linux, e agora estou com o Debian 2.2 r3. Porém estou tendo um antigo problema: meu modem é pctel hsp56micromodem on-board e não estou conseguindo instalar no Debian. Já peguei o driver, já instalei o kernel-source, já fiz tudo o que me mandaram, mas no final de tudo, o modem não responde. :( Será que este modem funciona no Debian 2.2 r3? Minha placa mãe é uma LMR755 com tudo on-board. Se alguém puder me ajudar em relação a isso ficarei grato. Atenciosamente, André. Caro André, A lista debian-user é internacional, portanto o inglês é usado. Existe uma lista semelhante em português: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visite a página do Debian na Internet e procure saber como se inscrever nela. Quanto ao modem PCTel, tenho aqui instruções que podem te ajudar. São relatos de quando eu instalei esse modem no meu computador. Contudo, o meu modem não é onboard, então você vai ter que descobrir quais são as diferenças. Caso consiga, me avise como, por favor. Enviei esta mensagem para você certa vez e você tornou a escrever um email para a lista. Não posso enviar arquivos anexados para a lista, portanto, se você quiser que eu reenvie os arquivos para você, me avise. Um abraço, - Vítor __ Vítor Estêvão Silva Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X problem: No startx or xinit
Hello again,
Here I am with one more problem...
I installed potato using the CDs. I used dselect to select packages to
install and I left it unchanged, that means I did not install any X
packages. Afther that, I changed the apt source to testing and ran "apt-get
dist-upgrade". Then I installed wmaker and all the dependencies (and some
suggestions/recommendations) using dselect. I configured xserver-svga, thus
creating /etc/X11/XF86Config.
When I tried to run startx, it didn't existed. Neither did xinit or any
documentation about it ('locate xinit' didn't return anything). Then I
tried installing some other packages such as xserver-xfree86, but that
didn't install xinit or created startx. Also I noticed that xf86config
didn't existed, but a xf86config-v3 did. Is everything just broken or did I
do something wrong in the process? What package do I need to install to
have xinit, startx and xf86config in my system?
Thanks in advance,
- Vítor
XF86Config-4
Hi, I was browsing through the archives to find a way to make the wheels of my MS Intellimouse work on X. I found a piece of configuration that should be inserted on XF86Config: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "Protocol""IMPS/2" Option "SendCoreEvents" "true" Option "Buttons" "5" Option "ZAxisMapping""4 5" EndSection So, I inserted it as directed, and when I tried to run startx: Config Error: /etc/XF86Config:21 Section "InputDevice" ^ not a recognized section name Here's the version of xfree that I'm using: seattle:/etc# dpkg -l xfree* Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name VersionDescription +++-==-==- ii xfree86-common 4.0.3-4X Window System (XFree86) infrastructure What did I do wrong? When I upgraded xfree86-common from 3.x to 4.x I think I told dpkg to use my config file instead of the maintainer's new version, so it wouldn't stop working. Is there a way to tell X to read new versions of XF86Config, so I can rewrite the config file and add the "InputDevice" section? Thanks, - Vítor Souza __ Vítor Estêvão Silva Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can Linux use a Microsoft Proxy Server to access the Internet?
At 21:44 26/9/2001 +0200, Martin F Krafft wrote: http access is one thing. have fun trying to get out of the network with something like ssh or smtp/pop3. don't worry, micro$oft made sure that everyone has to use their crap, at least afaik. if you *do* find a way to use the proxy server as a regular gateway to the net, please do let me know. I *almost* did find a way for Linux to use an MS Server as a Gateway. It's not working quite properly. This is what I did: - Installed socks-clients package from potato CD; - Set the FTP_PROXY, HTTP_PROXY and HTTPS_PROXY environment variables with "http://100.124.125.50:80/";; - Set the LD_PRELOAD environment variable with the path to the socks library (I forgot the path right now); - Configured /etc/socks.conf so it would use the proxy to all addresses but local intranet ones; - Changed apt sources.list to point to ftp.debian.org.br testing main contrib non-free; - Tried to run apt-get update and it didn't work (I also tried dselect using Access Mode apt and ftp). However, I was able to run ftp and connect to ftp.debian.org.br manually. When I did that, the command CD works, but LS and GET don't. What's going on? Does this have anything to do with FTP being in passive mode, or the host I'm connected to can't find me because I'm behind a proxy? Can this be corrected? I read on the archives that with this socks-clients package and using the script runsocks (which has the same effects as setting the LD_PRELOAD var) apt would work. Did I miss something? TIA, - Vítor __ Vítor Estêvão Silva Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can Linux use a Microsoft Proxy Server to access the Internet?
Hello all, The company I work for has a Windows NT 4.0 Server connected to an ISP through a T1 (I think). Anyways, this machine has a Microsoft Proxy Server (SOCKS5, I think) and every other machine on the network access the Internet using Microsoft Proxy Client 2.0. I have Debian (potato) installed on one of the machines, and the network is properly configured (I can ping the proxy server). I have managed to configure a Web Browser (such as Netscape) to use the proxy, but what I want to do is to have apt use the proxy to access the Internet. Is there any way to do that at all? Like, configuring a gateway or something? Is there any Windows Software that, if installed on the server, allows Linux boxes to access the Internet through that server? Any kernel modules specially for that? Thanks, - Vítor __ Vítor Estêvão Silva Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: S3 savage on potato
At 20:04 5/8/2001 +1000, Sam Varghese wrote: I have a new PC here that has some form of S3 Savage video onboard, which isn't supported by XFree86 3.3.6, but apparently is supported under version 4. I am running Debian 2.2r3 (potato), which only supports XFree86 3.3.6 -- it seems that XFree86 4 is in testing/unstable. Has anyone tried running potato with XFree86 4 from testing and what gotchas are there? Alternatively, am I better off just upgrading to testing/unstable? XF86Setup has four flavors of S3 Savage4 on the Card list, and one of them worked for me. I had more problems adjusting the modelines for my SyncMaster 15GLi than selecting the Video Card. If you want, I can send you my XF86Config, but I think you can make it if you run XF86Config. No need to upgrade do 4.0. Good luck! -Vítor __ Vítor Estêvão Silva Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PCTel Modem vs. Debian 2.2r3
At 19:39 25/7/2001 -0300, Vitor Silva Souza wrote: For the last couple of weeks I've been unsuccessfully trying to connect to the Internet on my Debian 2.2r3 (potato) distribution, running kernel 2.2.19pre17, using a PCTel modem. Hello again, After a while I did manage to use my PCTel PCI modem on my Debian system. If anyone is having the same problem as I am, please read my mini-Howto on installing PCTel PCI modem on Debian 2.2r3 (potato) attached. If you know someone who's having problem, this document tells exactly what I did and it might help. Peace, - Vítor == PCTel HSP56 Micromodem PCI at Debian 2.2r3 (potato) Mini-HOWTO 0.1 == 1 - Introduction 1.1 - Purpose The purpose of this document is to be a guide to anyone who is having problems installing a HSP56 PCI Micromodem from PCTel on a Debian 2.2r3 (potato) system. In the folowing paragraphs I will try to describe how I installed this modem (which is becoming popular on the latest computer models) on my Debian system (a very popular Linux distro). I did not try other distributions of Linux or other kinds of Winmodems. For more information on Winmodems/Linmodems and the installation of their drivers, please consult: - Linmodems.org - Rob Clark's site: http://www.kcdata.com/~gromitkc/winmodem.html - The Linux Documentation Project: http://www.linuxdoc.org - Jan Stifter's Homepage: http://www.medres.ch/~jstifter/linux/pctel.html These links have been very helpful to me. Last but not least, please excuse my english. I'm not a native speaker. I wrote this in english so it could reach more users, but if you think portuguese is easier for you to understand, please contact me. I'll be glad to write to you in my native language. 1.2 - Warning Use this document as a guide only, adapting the instructions in it to your case. This is not a final solution, and things can go wrong! The author does not guarantee the instructions below won't damage your system in any ways and will not be held responsible for any harm caused by the use of this document. In other words: use this guide at your own risk. I am not a Linux expert. This document tells you my experience by describing exactly what I did. This has worked on a i686 system (AMD Athlon) with Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r3 (potato) installed, and a PCTel HSP56 Micromodem PCI (not onboard). I don't know if it works in any other plataforms or kinds of modem so, if you try it and it works, please let me know. 1.3 - The author If you want to contact me, please use my email: Vítor Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Feel free to send me a message if you have any questions or suggestions for this Mini-Howto. 2 - Before you begin Before you begin, please be sure to have the following: - The CD Set for Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r3 (potato) binaries (at least CDs 1 and 2 of the 3-CDs Set). - Access to the internet on another machine or system. - Some hard disk space (can't precise how much). 3 - The installation procedure == The installation procedure consists on: - Getting the driver from the Internet; - Installing and preparing the kernel source; - Compiling and fixing the driver; - Connecting to the Internet. I did all the steps above as root, so I won't describe which steps requires root access and which ones don't. If you don't want to do all the instructions as root, try to do them as a normal user and su as root for the instructions that tell you "Permission denied". I'm just not that cautious about running my system as root when I'm installing things. My opinion is that as long as you don't play games or access the Internet as root, you'll be OK. 3.1 - Getting the driver from the Internet The drivers that worked for me were on Jan Stifter's Homepage, at http://www.medres.ch/~jstifter/linux/pctel.html. The name of the archive is pctel-2.2.tar.gz, and it should still be there. Download it and copy to any directory to which you have access to when logged in Linux. Also, you'll need a little script called 'fixscript'. You can find the latest version of it reading the Linmodem-Howto (look for it a the Linux Documentation Project). At the end of this document there is a version that worked for me, and you can use that also. $ cd /directory/where/files/were/downloaded/to First of all, access the directory where you copied both of the files (the drivers and fixscript). $ cp pctel-2.2.tar.gz /usr/src $ cp
PCTel Modem vs. Debian 2.2r3
Hello users (and hopefully developers) of Debian, For the last couple of weeks I've been unsuccessfully trying to connect to the Internet on my Debian 2.2r3 (potato) distribution, running kernel 2.2.19pre17, using a PCTel modem. For those who don't have the time to read big messages, I'll go straight to the point: 1) If anyone managed to connect a PCTel HSP56 PCI Micromodem to the Internet on a Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r3, please write a mini-HOWTO. I'm not the only one struggling with this. 2) Developers: I think what happens is that pppd sets off a kernel bug when trying to connect to an ISP (I was told that from /var/log/messages analysis). I don't know if it's the kernel's fault, or if it's PCTel module's fault (it is a 2.2.18 precompiled module), but I thought I should say this so you guys would decide if it's something worth taking a deeper look. Sending this message is my last act of hope. I'm already considering buying a real modem, something I should have done since the very beginning. Things I've already tried: -> PCTel's module (link available from Rob Clark's site and Linmodems.org) -> Jan Stifter's module (http://www.medres.ch/~jstifter/linux/pctel.html) -> Configuring with pppconfig and calling pon/poff. -> Installing ppp and wvdial package and using wvdial. -> Sean Walbran & Marvin Stodolsky's Linmodem-HOWTO -> Searching the web (found many mailing list archives about this) -> etc (don't remember right now)... I read that PCTel used to work on Debian 2.1, but doesn't on 2.2. Some user updated his Debian distro and pppd started crashing. If anyone knows *exactly* what to do, or want to exchange ideas, please email me. Thanks, __ Vítor Estêvão Silva Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
