Re: What files to backup
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:07:50 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: I have three standard Debian Squeeze systems and am setting up Backuppc to backup to an extra hard drive I have on one of the systems. I plan on backing up the following directories: /etc /home /var/www (An Apache server resides on one of the systems) Is there anything else that should be included. It depends. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jm2j9j$lov$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Aptitude update - http://dl.google.com?
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 16:15:02 +, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 17:25:30 +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote: on my Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid system when I update with aptitude I see lines: Ign http://dl.google.com stable InRelease Get: 35 http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg [198 B] Get: 36 http://dl.google.com stable Release [1347 B] Get: 37 http://dl.google.com stable/main amd64 Packages [765 B] Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main TranslationIndex Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-en Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-hu (...) Must I worry about of those lines: 'dl.google.com'? Dude, you accepted their terms ;-) *** https://tools.google.com/chrome/eula.html?hl=en Note: Installing Google Chrome will add the Google repository so your system will automatically keep Google Chrome up to date. If you don't want Google's repository, do sudo touch /etc/default/google-chrome before installing the package. indeed. Why people choose to install Google Chrome is a mystery to me. I would not touch it with a barge pole. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jlt9ah$pnn$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: [OT] Posting styles
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 14:11:23 -0500, Indulekha wrote: In linux.debian.user, keith mckenzie fat...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Decided the easiest way to stop the annoyance of 'Mika Suomalainen', is to send his messages straight to 'trash'. No more half page fulls of meaningless numbers/letters, no more requests for confirmation; life has returned to normal. :) That's what some people don't seem to understand -- they're posting to a mailing list where any assistance received depends on having everyone's good will, yet they insist on posting all that pointless garbage, making their emails really annoying to read. Certainly we are all free to do as we wish, but sometimes getting along with others requires certain little sacrifices. :) In all the arguments people have made here in favor of pgp/gpg signing to the list, not one person even bothered to address the annoying chunk of non-human-readable text to which we are subjected, whether or not we are interested. In fact, the matter tends to get edited out in the pro-pgp replies. Guess what they really think is screw you if you don't like it, underneath all the (rather silly) rationalizations. I used to have mutt configured to verify that crap, but then guess what happened? I learned that half the people using it do so incorrectly, so then you have all these error messages :\ What a waste. +1. I have killfiled Suomalainen too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jlt9n0$pnl$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Free as in speech hardware ebook reader
On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 00:12:45 +0300, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote: Hiya, Having a bad track record of not taking care of dead tree books, I am looking to buy an electronic book reader. The Amazon's Kindle does look good and it boasts a Linux kernel, but I am very disappointed at the many restrictions they want to place on me: automatic installation of firmware, limitations to its use, access to my data, and ads! To mention a few. I know it's possible to circumvent these restrictions, but what I am looking for is a hardware reader that is designed to respect my freedoms. Preferably one that runs a GNU/Linux system, and which I am allowed to tinker with. It does not have to work out of the box, and I am prepared to invest time in it and deal with bugs, as I would with a regular computer, provided it has a community around it to support it, as Linux distros do. Any suggestions? calibre -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jlnorg$32m$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: [OT] Posting styles
On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 22:23:07 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: iQIuBAEBCAAYBQJPf0KXERxNaWthIFN1b21hbGFpbmVuAAoJEE21PP6CpGcoycAP /iZU6Cdm8buOgsIT0LQEekvpC+ryn00/bUX9Xxcs9VvvBcMeXghr8TMnvbMnRLz1 bzlo/hYvQh1EX62oT9JW8NkKz6ydq3QBecdPAGtYdaMVm1pNPkPITA8VF3GQHAvr IMntClybbUIQU05GouahlZH0rMwxkHz5fx84Uwi5EPnxQ2D3pW74VYFtXSBdbRVz qhCQNOXg43G8mHlu3B7rE96VS49taSyZVU8Ro5AcifbvKsjO789Bb+iiaxhJe/WF 0ysTAYmiS4HWCF0xVPgrZZjMMPJQmSGWi8aWAIA8Bi+jyauxsOcjci5/oBqInqn+ 41RmFmalE7GRnEDRXBiPyrBUqopn6B974ZKQXzkqrMK8l97mgrPjgwcdIaOnYZwu 1j5cCvep2jy6Otu72Vx9oeojBXjZ1x5GkDqrcxLFJSb/fDM19OpQ1JwJv+vg1QQX ovU0PPkXWye12HDSINaAnUa1SiYpKVDEJdsdcNDNsXZJC3WeRWDs2S7VlLm5DG96 kXMcXp6HdhEUQxClgTc7vEQSkIFtmbYKspi0MoKRtN+f12jTcfBMZMv3k5hQVaOH iDxYENBYIzIrn/QvtgiJ9KRD71EJDdVL8V6Rd0he2sbnXtk5Dq/3dyCN9VzhIOhb YQ//Ph5VfeS73JOJV2jAMbqakwqeNZx1TvaEEsRS08IK =iPZG -END PGP SIGNATURE- How utterly ridiculous and pointless to sign messages posted to mailing lists. I agree with Chris Bannister. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jlnp6g$32m$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re: OT: change of mail provider
On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 14:13:03 +, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 14:29:51 -0500, Indulekha wrote: In linux.debian.user, Camaleón wrote: I don't use Gmail's webmail but Mutt and Pan (newsreader). Me too, except it's mutt and slrn. The mail for my domains is hosted by gmail for four years now, never had any trouble beyond an outage that lasted about four hours once. Yes, and that's precisely what makes me doubt for migrating to another provider: Gmail's reliability is very good. I first used my ISP e-mail facility (@telefonica.net) but it had (has?) two big problems: 1/ Their e-mail service is very poor (timed based pop3 logins, smtp service slow and more than often their e-mail servers are down/ unaccessible, in brief, a very unreliable service). 2/ The e-mail service is binded to their phone line services which means that if you stop using their DSL or land line service you also lose the e- mail address. Too bad. But Google services are starting to worrying me because they want to control almost any aspect of what you do and how it has to be done. Although I know how to prevent being tracked I don't like that policy so much, it's a matter of principles :-) You might like to try Lavabit. It is free, and I have found it excellent. Here is a review: http://email.about.com/od/freeemailreviews/gr/lavabit.htm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jld1uj$lfo$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: OT:change of mail provider
On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 14:12:15 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 1:48 PM, richard rich...@g8jvm.com wrote: THIS LIST SEEMS TO HAVE A HIGH POPULATION OF SELF APPOINTED PREMADONNAS THAT ARE ONLY CAPABLE OF CRITICISM. Can we get this guy tossed out the door? Talk about a negative nancy. Already killfiled here under his new name - rich...@g8jvm.com (and long ago killfiled under the old one - richard.b...@blueyonder.co.uk). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jlajt0$fh2$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: A correction: was Re: Can't read or boot from Squeeze 6.0.4 [ppc] disk 1 on Original iMac
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:55:32 +0100, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 27 March 2012 00:30:57 jwesleycoo...@cox.net wrote: Correction of my earlier email. You had been waiting 20 hours (the original datelines I used were in different time zones). It really is a bit much to call 20 hours days on end. Top posting his replies too. Enough. Plonk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jktivc$o26$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: CC-ing gmane (was: Re: QuickCam Orbit AF Pan/Tilt Broken in Sid)
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:32:39 +, Camaleón wrote: On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:46:55 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: I don't know about that. Sure, I subscribe to the most used ones, or that I might start using more, but if I have a one off question... Although I wouldn't ask for a CC, I would check the archives. And I have subscribed, asked a question, gotten an answer and unsubscribed in some cases - just because gmane, google groups, etc piss me off with their interfaces. I wish Google had never bought deja news... What Gmane interface are you referring to? I'm only aware about its web form mail to send posts but I rarely use that, I prefer by far a newsreader. OTOH, most (95%?) of the lists I have used don't require a subscription, with exceptions, of course (e.g., HylaFAX, IIRC). The gmane web interfaces are at (for example): http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user I much prefer to use Pan though. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jjvsqo$nji$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: CC-ing gmane (was: Re: QuickCam Orbit AF Pan/Tilt Broken in Sid)
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:57:52 +, Camaleón wrote: On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:48:24 +0100, Claudius Hubig wrote: Hello Camaleón, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:08:00 -0700, Mike Alborn wrote: Please CC me as I'm not subscribed to the list. I can't CC, sorry :-( At least Claws-Mail supports an additional To: Header when posting via Gmane. And also Thunderbird and I guess any other usual e-mail client. But I'm using Pan (a dedicated newsreader) and it's a bit limited in this regard (I can't also send attachments)... or maybe the limited it's me, so if someone knows how to add a CC e-mail address within Pan I would be more than glad to read the steps O:-) I use Pan too, and (like you, I think) read the list exclusively via Gmane. But even if I could cc, I don't think I would. I regard it as discourteous to seek help from a mailing list without even bothering to subscribe to it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jjtc8m$tlm$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Securing Debian Manual: 10.4.2.1 Proactive defense
On Thu, 08 Mar 2012 23:21:12 +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Hi Stayvoid! I am overwhelmed by your posting flood. I'm not. He is already in the bozo bin. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jjbd0v$kqf$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: OT: Copying a URL from a text browser (was: Re: text browsers)
On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 16:56:07 -0500, Randy Kramer wrote: Hijacking this thread Then don't. Start a new one, or better still, do a little research first. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jiu9sp$igs$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: General unstability on wheezy (unstable repository)
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 22:59:03 +0100, Abou Al Montacir wrote: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 TRANSITIONAL//EN HTML HEAD META HTTP-EQUIV=Content-Type CONTENT=text/html; CHARSET=UTF-8 META NAME=GENERATOR CONTENT=GtkHTML/4.2.2 /HEAD BODY Hi All,BR BR During the last few months I've been experiencing an increasing instability on my systems running wheezy. This used to be a good quality repository and good compromise between stability and new features for a desktop usage.BR BR However, with the gnome3 transition I started to experience more and more instabilities.BR The first issue was that on 1 of my 2 systems, gnome-shell starts loosing characters after a few minutes of working. This could results into unusable desktop (as you can see in screen shot of A HREF=mailto:636...@bugs.debian.org;bug#636874/A in A HREF=http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi? bug=636874#60message#60/A)BR For me this problem should be tagged with severity grave as it renders package not usable, isn't it?BR BR Also, evolution starts crashing more and more and now I can not have it running a few hours without it dies. On one on my systems it even results on segmentation fault upon starting, unless I disable network or I run it inside gdb otherwise, no mail.BR BR A third issue is that I have an UML machine running sid for years. Now this UML machin is crashing regularly and when it crashe, al the X system dies. What is the relationship? I don't see, but the UML starts in a xterm and runs no X application, only used for compiling (Lazarus/fpc and other packages I maintain).BR BR I've started suspecting HW issue, but as some of these issues happens only on 1 systems and others on the second, I don't think it is related to HW. Also I can see that some of my issues are experienced by other users.BR BR Can anyone advise on how to proceed? Please keep me on copy of this mail as I'm not subscribed to this mailing list.BR BR Cheers, /BODY /HTMLAttachment not shown: MIME type application/pgp-signature; filename signature.asc Please post in plain text. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jim81f$484$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: a quick Q: what is the .alias for
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 22:24:23 +0800, lina wrote: Hi, /lib/modules/3.2.5mj-lina/modules.alias /lib/modules/3.1.13.1-mj-lina/modules.alias I don't know what the .alias stands for, Thanks for any explainations, Would it not have been quicker and easier to try file and then less on one of these rather than post? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ji88ki$en$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Firefox and PDF incompatibility
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:01:57 -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 07:59:49AM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 03:22, Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, When opening PDFs documents in Firefox (e.g. by clicking on a PDF link in a webpage), it sometimes happens to my Firefox to stuck when loading the PDF. The PDF seems to be completely downloaded, but does not load in the acrobat plug-in. However, Firefox is still stable and responds correctly in other tabs. It looks like there's some issue with the Firefox-acrobat reader plugin. I noticed this on other computers running Linux and Firefox, even on different distros and acroread versions. I am running Firefox 10.0.1., but have got the same problem on Firefox 10.0. I am running acroread 9.0 but tried with other versions as well. Thanks for any info. My first two questions are: 1) Do you really need Adobe Reader features or will Evince or Okular or similar work for you? Poppler-based PDF readers are really very good nowadays. This is my recommendation. acroread is non-free. Install evince or xpdf, and tell ICEWEASEL to use that. Works great here. +1 for Evince (never tried xpdf). I'm not having any bloated proprietary crapware Ad*be Acr*bat here, thank you very much. Nor any G**gle Chr*me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jhmctf$fap$1...@dough.gmane.org
OT: (Fairly) new very long URLs on news.yahoo?
On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:52:47 -0500, Randy Kramer wrote: This is OT. Yes, it is. So please label it with 'OT' at the beginning of the subject line. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jh6pg6$lkt$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Restoring filenames from partly damaged ext4-filesystem
On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:29:53 +, Rudolf Zran wrote:
Hi everybody!
I recently damaged an ext4 partition by accident (mistakenly forced a
RAID sync with another partition onto it, which I realized after about
3% completion). As a result the beginning of the ext4 partition seems to
be overwritten with garbage and refuses to mount.
As you might guess, I'd now like to get as most of my data back (from
the part which hasn't been overwritten, of course :)).
Maybe somebody knows a good method to just repair the ext4-structure
from the remaining part of the partition?
Background information:
Operation system: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.4 (Squeeze) Kernel:
Linux 2.6.32-5 Architecture: x86-amd64 e2fsprogs: 1.41.12
Filesystem type: ext4, with default settings (mkfs.ext4 /dev/xyz)
Filesystem size: Around 1TB, filled with around 800GB of data.
Filesystem content: From a lot of ASCII stuff up to files with several
GB in size and arbitrary
non-standard type.
What I've tried so far:
* First of all, though the source drive is physically fine, I work on
images of the partition on a spare drive, to experiment with.
Everytime I make unrecoverable errors to that image, I recopy the
original.
* dumpe2fs -b $SBERR /dev/loop0 does NOT work, for SBERR={32768,
98304,
163840, 229376, 294912, 819200, 884736, 1605632, 2654208, 4096000,
7962624} ( see https://pzt.me/1l55 )
* dumpe2fs -b $SBOK /dev/loop0 DOES (partly) work, for SBOK={11239424,
2048, 23887872, 71663616, 78675968, 214990848} ( see
https://pzt.me/6txz )
* mkfs.ext4 -S /dev/loop0 results in a completely empty filesystem
* fsck.ext4 -b $SBOK -B 4096 -v -n /dev/loop0 shows a lot of errors.
Filesystem isn't mountable afterwards ( see https://pzt.me/42yk and
https://pzt.me/3frg )
* fsck.ext4 -b $SBOK -B 4096 -v -y /dev/loop0 recoveres after a long
time.
Filesystem is mountable. Root is empty besides lost+found folder,
which contains about 300GB mostly useless data: Millions of files
with wrong permissions, useless names and some random content.
* photorec from the testdisk package recoveres, luckily!, about 500GB of
data. Though the content seems to be pretty reasonable, no filenames
are recovered, since photorec operates without using filesystem
knowledge.
Do you see any chances (besides consulting professional recovery
companies) getting the filenames back? I looked into the ext4 specs a
bit to figure out where this information is stored on disk, but before I
step with hexedit through a terabyte of data, I'd rather try some
solutions which are maybe already out there.
The best, simplest and safest plan I think, would be simply to format the
partition and restore from backup.
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Re: the disappear of taskbar ( was: system locks, was was: something weird)
On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:11:16 +0800, lina wrote: How could set the taskbar back, for everything. I used to have the taskbar at the top. Do you *ever* manage to do *anything* without a major disaster? It might be a good idea to give up Linux and take up basket weaving instead. It clearly doesn't suit you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jgkqbk$823$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: ALSA instead of pulseaudio on new sid
On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:32:34 +0100, Raven wrote: Hi guys. I have a fairly new install of sid with the new fancy gnome3 and all the eye-candy tweaks. I don't really like it, but that's another story.. Anyway, before reinstalling sid I used to have the sound coming from ALSA..it was working great. Mic worked, SPDIF worked and I had real control over the volume level. Now I'm running pulseaudio. Which sucks! Digital out is mute, sound level seems to be reduced by 60-70% and I haven't even started trying to configure it for HDMI. I would really want to go back to ALSA, but I'm kind of afraid that it might break my install. I tried following some ubuntu howtos but I always end up with aptitude wanting to remove gnome-desktop-environment. Does any one have experience on how to go about for replacing pulseaudio? Or maybe some tips? ALSA is not an alternative to PulseAudio; PA sits *on top of* ALSA and directs traffic. By default you probably have both installed, which is as it should be. When PA was first released, it was a bit awkward to deal with, as Lennart Poettering's stuff tends to be. Hence there were many wails and howtos on removing PA, which can easily be found by Googling. But PA is fine now. Perhaps the fine ALSA and PA manuals will help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jfnfqp$ja0$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: POP3 in Debian
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:38:23 +, Jon Dowland wrote: I'd strongly recommend using something *other* than fetchmail: getmail or mpop are options. What's wrong with Fetchmail? Works flawlessly for me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jfcd3v$c01$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re: hi, how to set gnome3 in fallback mode?
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 18:35:04 -0500, Mike Viau wrote:
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shiyao.ma wrote:brgt; brgt; gt; On 2012年01月20日 15:34,
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wrote:brgt; gt;gt; I did a fresh installation of debian tesing on
my laptop. After firstbrgt; gt;gt; login, the gnome3 told me that
due to hardware problem, gnome3 was inbrgt; gt;gt; fallback mode.
Thus, I installed the linux-firmware-nonfree. After abrgt; gt;gt;
restart, the gnome3 was in standard mode automatically. However,
Ibrgt; gt;gt; found myself like the fallback mode more. I found
Systembrgt; gt;gt; settings-gt;System info-gt;Graphics has no
setting of fallback mode. Itbrgt; gt;gt; just shows that I am in
standard expe
rience. How can I set it tobrgt; gt;gt; fallback mode again?
Thanks.brgt; brgt; gt; I found the solution. Though impossible
to set in gnome-control-center,brgt; gt; the mode can be chosen in
gdm3.brgt; brgt; As the fallback mode won't be always there, I
would start by getting used brgt; to gnome-shell or looking for
another DE/WM brgt; brbrI amnbsp; using Gnome3 Classic as a
choice from the gdm3 login in screen. Is this what fallback implies, or
will the Gnome 3 classic option always be there?brbrI am using
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*Please* don't do that.
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Re: hi, how to set gnome3 in fallback mode?
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gt; gt; *Please* don't do that.brbrMy apologizes, this is the
Plonk.
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Re: [OT] Ownership of words
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 19:08:41 -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: I wake up every morning with only a limited allotment of energy for arguing. I find I must save this arguing energy for issues that are worth arguing about. This one didn't make the cut. But I paid for the full half-hour. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jefkdh$ics$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Vodafone Mobile Internet modem
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 20:07:29 +0200, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote: Hi! I am running a mix of GNewSense (which is based on Squeeze) and Squeeze on a Lemote YeeLoong netbook. To access the internet I have paid for a Vodafone Mobile Internet Contract. However the provided Huawei usb modem has been nothing but trouble. Can you suggest a GNU\Linux compatible modem (usb I assume) that will work without hassle? Works perfectly for me. I use Sakis3G with a little Vodafone USB dongle. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jeafd2$h3j$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Vodafone Mobile Internet modem
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 00:04:15 +0200, Panayiotis wrote: What is the dongle's model? Mine is not particularly little, I think it's the Huawei E220. It's a Vodafone K3570-Z - a small white dongle that looks like a fat memory stick. Please don't top post, or reply to my email address. Reply to the list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jeahus$g38$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: take screen shot error
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 11:11:48 +0800, lina wrote: actually I have started to enjoy using scrot. Here is the script which I have bound to my 'PrtSc' key: - #!/bin/bash TIME=`date +%Y-%m-%d-%T` FILE=$HOME/Pictures/Screenshot_$TIME.png scrot -s -b $FILE canberra-gtk-play --id=screen-capture gpicview $FILE -- You'll need to substitute your png viewer for gpicview, and alter the canberra-gtk-play line depending on whether you have it (and/or the sound clip) installed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/je29cm$7nr$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Order of cron.daily jobs
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 19:03:22 +, T o n g wrote: On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 16:59:27 +, Camaleón wrote: Yup, but this can be found by simply trial and error tests. trial and error can sure yield some conclusion, but whether the conclusion is good really depend on the trials. For Vincent's case specifically, I believe no matter how many trials I did, I would never realize it. I wouldn't have thought the order of jobs in cron.daily ought to matter, but if it does, why not just give them names like 10FirstJob, 20NextJob etc. - along the lines of the old sysv init stuff? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/je2ach$7nr$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Best remote control software
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 16:33:33 +1000, yudi v wrote: Currently I am using x11vnc as the server on Debian and tightvnc viewer on Windows 7. Both machines are connected via LAN cable and are only meters apart. Debian is installed on a 12' laptop and windows 7 on a desktop with dual screens, I wanted to see if I can use VNC to access Debian on win7 machine. It works but the performance using the above applications is not that good. There's lag and the display output is not as clear as expected. I was just wondering what is the best software solution available. Otherwise I might invest in a KVM switch. I don't know whether this will help, but in case it does: I do it the other way around: I can control my son's Windoze 7 PC (in his bedroom upstairs) when he needs something sorted out, from my Linux laptop using TightVNC as the server on my son's box and Remmina as the client on mine. TightVNC viewer works too, but I preferred Remmina. Quality and performance are fine. The link is wireless (we share a common wireless router). We both have static IP addresses on the home LAN. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/je2cna$7nr$3...@dough.gmane.org
Re: what's the nice package to open eps file
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:38:54 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: It will also open with Okular - I'm not sure if that means your default .pdf viewer will open them. Just for information, Evince views them just fine. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jdvcag$7qv$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Doubled external usb hard drives?
On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 18:22:46 +, Brian wrote: On Sun 25 Dec 2011 at 15:16:11 +, Sharon Kimble wrote: This morning my usb external hard drive started playing up by showing two instances, i.e.;- ~~~ ls -l /media total 48 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Dec 22 20:10 8eef3b99-c17b-4913-ae61-d34c7fd5d459 drwxrwxr-x 184 root boztu 12288 Dec 24 18:13 8eef3b99-c17b-4913-ae61-d34c7fd5d459_ ~ ^ ^ ^ These are two different mount points. ^ Correct. And it has happened because udisks tries to automount drives onto /media/partition label (creating a new directory there first). But if it finds a directory already exists there, it will append an underscore and try again, and so on. Witness: $ cd /media $ ls Elements Elements-1T u01 $ mount|grep Elements-1T /dev/sdb1 on /media/Elements-1T type ext2 (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_xattr,acl,barrier=1,uhelper=udisks) $ sudo umount /dev/sdb1 $ mount|grep Elements-1T $ ls Elements u01 $ sudo mkdir Elements-1T $ ls Elements Elements-1T u01 (now unplug the disk, then plug it in again) $ ls Elements Elements-1T Elements-1T_ u01 $ mount|grep Elements-1T /dev/sdb1 on /media/Elements-1T_ type ext2 (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_xattr,acl,barrier=1,uhelper=udisks) $ Additional remark: That's why I always give my USB thumb drives as well as my USB external disks sensible labels like Red_USB or Elements-1T. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jd88vh$sb5$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Ownership of external usb hard drive
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:28:45 +, Sharon Kimble wrote: On 22 December 2011 17:09, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 00:26:04 +, Sharon Kimble wrote: I have an external usb hard drive that I use solely for storing backups which are done every three hours of my home folder. It is 'owned' by root, but I want to have the user boztu to have ownership of it so that boztu can write to it from their cron backup program, but how do I do it please? At the moment root writes to it at midnight and creates a new dated folder, because only root has write access to it. Then every three hours boztu writes to it and backs up the changes in the home folder, but I want user boztu to do =all= of it including creating the new dated folder. Does this make sense? Mmm, why don't you just... - Mount the USB disk to be user writeable (this can be set at /etc/ fstab), and then - Use the user's crontab to run the task? Very succinctly put, except the hard drive is automatically mounted by Gnome, thats the only mistake you made. It wouldn't be if it were in fstab. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jcvpsf$tdu$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: FETCHMAIL AND GMAIL?
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:26:38 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Ma, 20 dec 11, 17:51:10, Brian wrote: On Tue 20 Dec 2011 at 18:24:19 +0100, Alex Padoly wrote: How do you do to run fecthmail with gmail with POP3 protocol, I can't it! How do you do to write the file .fetcmailrc. This what I have as part of my ~/.fetchmailrc poll pop.googlemail.com protopop3 service 995 user justforme password something_longish ssl Just something that might not be obvious in Brian's example: the username must always be your complete e-mail address. Yep. Mine looks like: poll imap.gmail.com protocol imap tracepolls: user 'walterhu...@gmail.com', with password 'hidden', is walter here options ssl Obviously OP would need to change the server being polled to the POP3 one, as well as the protocol (though the reason why people want to use POP3 when IMAP is available escapes me). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jcr0s5$u3p$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: what's the best media player ?
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 23:44:16 +0800, lina wrote: Hi, which media player is your favoriate and love to recommend. I have a problem in using movie player, it's kinda of funny when open some song with it, all the process just being killed and came to login interface. (more like the new-started laptop without truely re-start). Thanks with best regards, mplayer, gxine, gnome-mplayer, vlc, totem. They all work very well indeed with pretty much anything you throw at them, provided you have the codecs installed. Take your pick. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jcoas3$p0g$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Sqeeze installation: manually defining partitions
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 23:51:50 +0100, Klaus Jantzen wrote: Hi, for (each?) partition I define there is an entry for Reserved Blocks with a suggested value of 5%. Questions: 1) What are these reserved blocks for? Root. For recovery if you fill it. 2) Do I have to have them? Not necessarily, but you would be ill advised not to. 3) What are the consequences of setting the quota to 0%? Disaster. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jce89b$jdu$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Counting occurances of a word in a file.
On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 12:34:45 +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: Yes, you are right. My suggestion doesn't work if a word appears more than once in a line since only lines which contain the word are counted. Sorry for the confusion. PMFJI. Never mind; *I'm* glad you mentioned it anyway. I have a script which needs just the count of lines containing something, and hitherto grepped the file and then piped the result into wc -l. I have now changed it to use grep - c instead. Saves a process, and is more elegant. Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jbtenk$fk$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled
On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 18:24:56 -0500, doug wrote: On 12/09/2011 04:29 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm looking for a laptop with Linux preinstalled by vendor. I'm aware of System76 who ships with Ubuntu. Is there anyone else? I would like to do some comparison shopping. Thank you. I think I've heard that Asus will ship with Linux, and perhaps also eMachines, altho from what I read, eMachines does not have a good record. All vendors I've read about ship with Ubuntu, so if you don't want that, you'll have to install something else yourself, and/or set up a dual boot with 2 Linux distros. That works fine--I have 3 distros plus XP on this Dell laptop. From any of the Linuxes, you can access the files the others and XP. Unfortunately, I can't access the Linux files from XP. If I had set up the Linuxes on exp2 or exp3 I think I could have found a program that lets XP communicate with them, but I didn't. Hint: if you run more than one Linux distro, within each Documents directory, put a filename that says pclos, or ubuntu, or whatever, so when you select a partition, you can figure out what system you're accessing. Otherwise it gets confusing! There might be an easier way, but I don't know it. Labelling the partitions sensibly is probably a better plan. And you are almost certainly well served by being unable to access your Linux partitions from Windoze (there are ways, but they should be treated with extreme caution, since Windoze does not understand file permissions properly). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jbu643$3gg$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled
On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 21:01:47 -0500, doug wrote: OK, I'll bite. How do you label the partitions? I was under the impression that they would have to be called / or /home or /boot, and so on. I think you are confusing partition labels with mount points. Scroogle is your friend. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jbufvs$636$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Wheezy X broken ?
On Tue, 06 Dec 2011 20:39:26 +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2011-12-06 10:50 +0100, Shaun wrote: On 05/12/2011 22:25, Sven Joachim wrote: For gnome-shell you need a 3D OpenGL driver, and in wheezy the nouveau 3D drivers are not installed by default yet. This has been changed¹ in unstable already, however. Is there a way to test this? $ glxinfo | grep render It should print something like direct rendering: Yes OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on NV86 This is for my GeForce 8500 GT, the exact number after NV in the second line is different from card to card¹. Is glxgears enough to tell if a suitable 3D OpenGL driver is loaded? No, but the above glxinfo command should tell. Just want a quick way to find out if my system is gnome-shell ready :) You will need libgl1-mesa-dri 7.11.1-1 from unstable, it should install fine on wheezy. Or wait a few more days for it to migrate² to testing. Just for information, here's mine: $ glxinfo | grep render direct rendering: Yes OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RS780 GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_AMD_draw_buffers_blend, ..but I have no idea whether it will run GNOME shell, nor am I interested in finding out. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jbltlo$inm$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re: GRUB2 themes
On Mon, 05 Dec 2011 22:16:12 +, Lisi wrote: On Saturday 03 December 2011 22:19:54 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: IMO it is too bad that Debian does not put a nice theme together, it would look so much better at a first install. I do dislike nice themes. Surely there is Ubuntu for those that like such things. Debian is the refuge for those who like their software actually to _work_. If nice themes take over Debian as well, where are we to go, those of us who think that the first objective of software is to do its job and do it well? And surely there is always KDE4. IMHO, of course. ;-) Lisi +1. And KDE is a monolithic bloated POS IMHO. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jbjkvp$svr$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: a short cut on desktop on gnome3
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 14:18:37 -0500, doug wrote: On 12/02/2011 01:28 PM, Brian Flaherty wrote: On 12/02/2011 03:03 AM, abdelkader belahcene wrote: *Hi, I am trying to be familiar with gnome 3, So I installing from debian testing the gnome 3, It seems good, but sometimes I am lost, for example, I want to put a file on the Desktop, like drag it from the usb to the screen!! as usual, it didn't work !!! another case I used to add button on the bar just by clicking on the topbar menu to add it, the right click is not working ??!! How to enable it?? is it possible?? thanks for help* My understanding is that by default, GNOME 3 desktop does not correspond to a directory as in previous GNOME and Mac (for example). But there's an option in gnome-tweak-tool to tell the file manager (nautilus, I assume) to manage the desktop. I haven't tried it, but it sounds like it should do what you want. If you can't put icons on your desktop, what good is the desktop? You might as well have DOS! I don't have icons on my desktop, but that is through choice. $ cd Desktop $ ls -A $ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jbb96k$hju$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Re (2): Laptop with external display running X11.
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 01:25:16 +0100, deloptes wrote: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE What's the purpose of this superfluous cat (and the pipe)? grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jb99te$vlv$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: GRUB version
On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 15:40:52 +, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 08:37:33 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Is there a way to find out what version of grub is installed in the MBR of a drive? grub-install -v will tell the installed version. Anyway... IIRC, the version is printed at the top of the boot menu. The question aroused my curiosity, so I tried looking at the boot sector itself: $ sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=mbr_backup.bin bs=512 count=1 1+0 records in 1+0 records out 512 bytes (512 B) copied, 0.00038036 s, 1.3 MB/s $ file mbr_backup.bin mbr_backup.bin: x86 boot sector; GRand Unified Bootloader, stage1 version 0x3, stage2 address 0x2000, stage2 segment 0x200, GRUB version 0.94; partition 1: ID=0x27, starthead 1, startsector 63, 25173792 sectors; partition 2: ID=0x7, starthead 254, startsector 25173855, 208845 sectors; partition 3: ID=0x7, active, starthead 254, startsector 25382700, 44194815 sectors; partition 4: ID=0x5, starthead 254, startsector 69577576, 243000472 sectors, code offset 0x48, Bytes/sector 190, sectors/ cluster 124, reserved sectors 191, FATs 6, root entries 185, sectors 64514 (volumes =32 MB) , Media descriptor 0xf3, sectors/FAT 20644, heads 6, hidden sectors 309755, sectors 2147991229 (volumes 32 MB) , physical drive 0x7e, dos 4.0 BootSector (0x0) $ One (slightly) interesting thing is that this reports version 0.94 whereas the version of GRUB on the partition from where it was installed claims to be 0.97. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jb5lda$kmt$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: NNTP server
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:52:35 +, Tony van der Hoff wrote: My ISP blocks NNTP traffic. To get round this, I propose to use my Squeze VPS, which has direct access to the Internet, to collect news articles from a few selected groups, and access these over SSH (or something like that). Can anyone advise me on which package(s) to install, bothe on my desktop, and on the VPS? Sorry, I can't answer the question posed, but if it were me I'd be looking to switch ISP. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jb3eo0$de1$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: .deb / dpkg for dummies
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:26:36 +0100, Piotr Wydymus wrote: At first, hello everyone - I subscribed yesterday. Please don't: a) Top post b) Post HTML Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jb0q6m$f2q$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Nautilus 3.2.1 and file associations
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 17:22:51 +, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 09:43:15 +, Alan Chandler wrote: On 26/11/11 21:18, Camaleón wrote: Anyway, try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/82652/file-association-to-unlisted- application It basically says that you have to append a trailing %U at /usr/share/ applications/freemind.deskop file, at the Exec stanza, that is: *** Exec=/usr/bin/freemind %U *** Now the application should be listed at the Open with... menu so you can now set it as the default for that kind of file types. Actually it is incomplete - you need to also (or maybe only) edit the setting in ~/.local/share/applications/freemind.desktop Hum... It worked for me by just editing the suggested file (and I even don't have Freemind installed at all). That's because the .desktop file in ~/.local will override the default in /usr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jau4pd$a3n$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: How can I get GNOME 2 back
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 11:04:24 +, Cam Hutchison wrote: I have tried GNOME 3. I have tried it with fallback mode. I've now tried xfce, kde and my own hacked together xsession with gnome components. I don't like any of it. What I like is the setup I had. I had GNOME 2 set up just the way I wanted it, and there was nothing wrong with it. Is there any way to get this back, while still using Debian? I've been using Debian (sid) a long time and I'm not changing distros. Are the debian patches for the last of the GNOME 2 releases still available? Can I build my own packages? You are on a hiding to nothing. GNOME2 is dead. Yes, there is at least one fork, but it/they are doomed. You could try to hang on to GNOME2 by switching to another distribution - which anyway you say you don't want to do - or reverting to Squeeze, but either is only a short term solution. When GNOME3 arrived (early for me, in Fedora 15) I evaluated KDE and XFCE, and neither was to my taste. Then I looked at LXDE and switched to it. It suits me fine, and I use it as my DE in Squeeze too. Camaleón recommends trying to assimilate GNOME3 and its shell, and waiting for it to be improved, but that's not for me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jaua6g$a3n$3...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Fixing corrupt mysql table
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 09:26:52 +1100, Robert S wrote: I recently rebooted my server and mysql didn't start - it reported password problems. I have reset the root password but there are other errors: # /etc/init.d/mysql start Starting MySQL database server: mysqld. Checking for corrupt, not cleanly closed and upgrade needing tables.. ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES) When I get into phpmyadmin and go to the Privileges tab I get the following: SQL query: (SELECT `User`, `Host`, `Select_priv`, `Insert_priv`, `Update_priv`, `Delete_priv`, `Create_priv`, `Drop_priv`, `Grant_priv`, `Index_priv`, `Alter_priv`, `References_priv`, `Create_tmp_table_priv`, `Lock_tables_priv`, `Create_view_priv`, `Show_view_priv`, `Create_routine_priv`, `Alter_routine_priv`, `Execute_priv`, `Event_priv`, `Trigger_priv`, `Db` FROM `mysql`.`db` WHERE 'contacts' LIKE `Db` AND NOT (`Select_priv` = 'N' AND `Insert_priv` = 'N' AND `Update_priv` = 'N' AND `Delete_priv` = 'N' AND `Create_priv` = 'N' AND `Drop_priv` = 'N' AND `Grant_priv` = 'N' AND `References_priv` = 'N' AND `Create_tmp_table_priv` = 'N' AND `Lock_tables_priv` = 'N' AND `Create_view_priv` = 'N' AND `Show_view_priv` = 'N' AND `Create_routine_priv` = 'N' AND `Alter_routine_priv` = 'N' AND `Execute_priv` = 'N' AND `Event_priv` = 'N' AND `Trigger_priv` = 'N')) UNION (SELECT `User`, `Host`, `Select_priv`, `Insert_priv`, `Update_priv`, `Delete_priv`, `Create_priv`, `Drop_priv`, `Grant_priv`, `Index_priv`, `A[...] MySQL said: #1054 - Unknown column 'Event_priv' in 'field list' I have run myisamchk and myisamchk -r on all of the databases. Will it be necessary to rebuild everything from scratch? I've got a lot of it running temporarily by using the root user and password in a few scripts but how can I restore the system? Wrong list. Try a MySQL list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jaughj$5l9$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Debian: A noob query
On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 17:47:08 +, Andrew Wood wrote: Adobes version of Flash was (when I downloaded it a month or so ago) 32 bit which will run on a 64 bit OS BUT only with a 32 bit web browser so you need to make sure you have the 32 bit version of Firefox. I made that mistake:) Wrong on both counts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jaoq0k$h2n$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Debian: A noob query
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 06:43:54 -0500, Sam Vagni wrote: Hello everyone, I just want to go into Linux, coming from Windows XP. Just want to know if Debian is good to go with and learn then? Just to clear my doubts that head people saying about its' non-compatibility with the newest hardware and not having latest technology, is it a myth? Further, I hope I can use easily Flash, Java, etc.. if Firefox if I install and go with Debian Debian is a fine distribution; but there are others too. By the way, of course people here will extol the virtues of Debian - it is a Debian mailing list after all. But I'd like to focus on two other issues: 1) Why are you looking to move to Linux? What do you want to do? You have mentioned web browsing and Flash. What else? 2) What is your hardware (in detail) please? You may find it helpful to do a web search on Linux hardware and spend a little time researching. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jalh3e$do7$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Debian: A noob query
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 08:39:29 -0500, Sam Vagni wrote: On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Walter Hurry walterhu...@lavabit.com wrote: Debian is a fine distribution; but there are others too. By the way, of course people here will extol the virtues of Debian - it is a Debian mailing list after all. Ok, I see. That really I forgot to consider...! After all a fact it is! 1) Why are you looking to move to Linux? Windows is having more of security issues, it is not that robust as is Linux and we have to pay also! I heard of Linux having more security. Indeed; it is considerably more secure. What do you want to do? Just want to learn Linux, the basics first and then to step up. You have mentioned web browsing and Flash. What else? Like I want to have everything in Linux, linux in everyday use since it is better... So my target is whatever I do, I should do in Linux (Debian or openSUSE or Fedor, whatever) A little vague, I'm afraid. But not to worry, there are Linux applications for most things. By the way, I'd strongly recommend (with few exceptions) sticking to software which is in the repositories (which are very comprehensive), rather than downloading stuff from the 'net. 2) What is your hardware (in detail) please? You may find it helpful to do a web search on Linux hardware and spend a little time researching. Yeah sure, I am having processor x86_64, 250 GB Hard disk (SATA), 2 GB RAM, speakers and Samsung printer, the monitor begin LG and it is a desktop, for home but some office work also done (like documentation etc...). Are you planning to use wireless? If so, what is your wireless card/chip? What graphics card/chips? These are the areas which occasionally give problems for some. As to the printer, you'll need to check the exact model, not just the brand. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jali5o$do7$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Debian: A noob query
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 14:03:03 +, Lisi wrote: On Thursday 24 November 2011 13:51:52 Walter Hurry wrote: As to the printer, you'll need to check the exact model, not just the brand. Samsung's splix can manage most Samsungs, just as HP's hpijs and hplip can manage most HP printers. (But not necessarily all its all-in-ones.) Ah, right, thanks. I didn't know that - I tend to stick with HP as I've always had excellent results with their printers and HPLIP. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jalmai$kdf$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Debian: A noob query
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 09:57:06 -0500, Sam Vagni wrote: On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Walter Hurry walterhu...@lavabit.com wrote: A little vague, I'm afraid. But not to worry, there are Linux applications for most things. By the way, I'd strongly recommend (with few exceptions) sticking to software which is in the repositories (which are very comprehensive), rather than downloading stuff from the 'net. Oh well, I would be sticking with the recommendations of the OS only Are you planning to use wireless? If so, what is your wireless card/chip? Well right now - no, right now I have a wired connection. What graphics card/chips? These are the areas which occasionally give problems for some. Yeah sure, but it could really be silly but I don't know which graphics card/chips I am using...? Can you please tell me about it...But my speakers give sound whenever I play any song in Windows XP, however, I remember it used Real tek audio drivers when I installed windowsSpeakers are giving sound, still graphic card is different from it...? These questions could really be of very basic nature, I do understand, but computers was not my field ever As to the printer, you'll need to check the exact model, not just the brand. It is Samsung ML 1610. On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Olivier BATARD obat...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah. Give a try to others like OpenSuse or Fedora and choose the one you prefer, best testing by using ! Oh well, that's a good suggestion, trying each distro, but really much bandwidth is required for it , but I would try Then again, debian is your friend, because you can start with bash easily. Gui are confusing for a start, old windows habits are pretty anoying Okay, so debian is again good. On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: There is no reason why you should not use GUI for some time if you are more comfortable with it. I have been using Linux for 7 years and am at home on the CLI, but there are still some things that I do in the GUI. [snip] Yes, but the main concern (for which I am hopeful) is that I have to use Linux (either GUI or CLI, doesn’t matter). But I heard people saying that CLI gives better control (whatever be the reason, don't want to get into that debate...), so for me both new, at least GUI would be pretty easy, for sure.. You are confusing two separate things: Downloading a CD from which to install Debian and installing all but the basic system from the net. If you have a connection which often disconnects, then you would be better to do the initial installation of your system from an optical medium: preferably DVD if it is possible for you. Download the first DVD by torrent - that will give you a more than adequate system. Well, I guess (not sure I am) but would CD work also...? DVD downloading would take a lot of time (yes internet problems here), I guess I am true. But I hope there is nothing (I mean no problem) in downloading CD, would I lose something in case if I go for CD? When searched for getting CD option for amd64 (which is also called Intel 64, as someone says here...), there are a lot of CDs with numbering from 1 to some 30 or even more, probably at, http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.3/amd64/bt-cd/ , but I don't know which ONE to download? Then just go with the defaults. You can start choosing things once you are comfortable with Debian. Okay. You will at one stage in the installation be asked which type of system you want. Make sure that standard and desktop are among the things that have been selected by default. They probably have, but I am not sure at the moment. Okay. GNOME is now the Debian default desktop. Ah, well. No, you do not need to download a 64 bit system if you do not want to do so. In my opinion, the jury is still out on whether life is easier if you stick to x86 (32 bit) or go with 64 bit. I will let those, who have stronger opinions than I on which is preferable, tell you their opinions. I guess I should go (of course) with 64 since my processor supports that (this I came to know).. But ia64 is for Intel's Itanium range, so only use it if you have an Itanium processor. Otherwise you need AMD64 for a 64 bit processor, even if your processor is Intel. Oh I see. My processor is Intel's only not Intel's Itanium (since no where the word 'Itanium' was mentioned in properties of processor). Debian is made to sound much more daunting than it actually is. Way back in history when Debian and Linux were both young, Debian was for experts only. The reputation has stuck with it, but the world has moved on. Don't worry about all the scary words and names that people use. Initially you will not need any of them. Get your initial system set up and then ask questions if you need to do so. I think that Firefox comes as standard with the GNOME
Re: Debian: A noob query
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 15:50:31 +, Lisi wrote: On Thursday 24 November 2011 14:57:06 Sam Vagni wrote: I guess I should go (of course) with 64 since my processor supports that (this I came to know).. There is no of course. Sorry, I did not make myself clear. With a 64 bit processor, either a 32bit or 64bit system would work without problems. There was a time when several things (like Flash!!) would not work in 64bit. I haven't myself tried to run Adobe's version of Flash on a 64bit system, so do not know whether one now can. It is not impossible that there may be some things that don't run in 64bit Linux. I myself am running an x86 system with a 64bit processor, so cannot look and see for you. Flash 64 works just fine here - and so does everything else. By the way, even in the old days before Flash 64 bit was available, it was quite easy to get Flash 32 bit working on 64 bit Linux. I see no reason for OP to avoid 64 bit Debian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jalqjh$pj5$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Unknown HZ value! (92) Assume 100.
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 18:52:59 +, Camaleón wrote: I'm afraid the rootkit is not distribution specific. I would run a deep scan with the mentioned tool (rkhunter) to be sure. PMFJI. What is an rkhunter deep scan? I use rkhunter but am not aware of any deep scan option. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jam4sk$70u$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Debian: A noob query
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 20:24:34 +, Lisi wrote: On Thursday 24 November 2011 16:15:45 Walter Hurry wrote: I see no reason for OP to avoid 64 bit Debian. Sorry - as usual I am not making myself clear. I am not suggesting that he should. I said that here would no doubt others who could better inform him of the pros and cons. Agreed; you did say that. It is just that mentioning the matter at all raises a certain amount of fear, uncertainty and doubt. It is of course entirely possible to run 32 bit Linux on 64 bit hardware, but IMO there is absolutely no reason for OP to do so. Your remark about 32 bit Flash on 64 bit Debian *was* incorrect, though. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jama8j$aq5$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Unknown HZ value! (92) Assume 100.
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 22:38:05 +, Brian wrote: On Thu 24 Nov 2011 at 19:11:16 +, Walter Hurry wrote: PMFJI. What is an rkhunter deep scan? I use rkhunter but am not aware of any deep scan option. 'deep scan' mode was a planned but unimplemented addition to rkhunter's capabilities. From the unpublished manual: --deep-scan One of rkhunter's functions is to search for non-existent rootkits on a computer system. This option extends the search to rootkits from parallel universes which penetrate the space-time continuum. The project was discontinued when it was became known that chkrootkit's proposed --fairies-at-the-bottom-of-the-garden option covered the same ground and more. Ah, right. Thanks ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jamna8$rr$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: CUPS assuming I'm the admin instead of prompting for user/pass
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:07:56 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: Camaleón wrote: Kent West wrote: No, on further tinkering, that doesn't seem to be quite the issue. I'm getting different Home pages at various times, and I just now realized that if I start at localhost:631, sometime I wind up at an IPADDRESS:631 which is not the IPAddress of my localhost box. Then if I try to browse to http://MYLOCALIP:631 I get a can't establish connection to the server at THATADDRESS. That's what happens here. http://localhost:631 → works http://192.168.0.154:631 → does not work It seems that CUPS thinks my localhost IP address is something different than what it actually is. Mmm, or can be that CUPS default settings only allow connections coming from the own machine and not from other network hosts (look at /etc/cups/ cupsd.conf file, variable Listen localhost:631). Look at the listening socket to see the result of the setup. $ netstat -na | grep :631.*LISTEN tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:631 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN tcp6 0 0 ::1:631 :::*LISTEN In this example from my machine it is listening on 127.0.0.1 which isn't available to remote systems. Compare this to ssh port 22 which is open for all addresses. $ netstat -na | grep :22.*LISTEN tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:22 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN tcp6 0 0 :::22 :::*LISTEN I'm wondering if OP just has something muddled in his hosts file. AFAIK, the first line should be something like: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost and then http://localhost:631 (note to OP: not 621) should work fine as long as CUPS is up with its default configuration. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jae9dr$341$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2011 #2111
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 15:39:29 -0500, sunny...@pghmail.com wrote: Funny I can get mail from this list but I cannot unsubscribe from it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jaeghj$s34$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: gnome 3 refugee: obstructive panel in xfce
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:52:46 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: The screen savers are pretty, but would it be possible to have them just go blank and save power when the laptop in not plugged in? You don't need any screensavers installed. man xset. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ja6i7h$9nf$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: cut's counterpart: vcut ?!
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:58:54 +, Joao Ferreira Gmail wrote: Hi all, a crazy ideia just crossed my mind ? Is there a command that allows me to glue to text files together line by line ? more or like the inverse operation of 'cut' ... a vertical cat :P # cat abc a b c # cat 123 1 2 3 # vert_cat abc 123 a1b2c3 # cat a1b2c3.txt a1 b2 c3 # :) Is there such a 'vert_cat' :) One way would be to number the lines in each file first, then use join on the line number, then remove the line number from the result. There may be an easier way, but it is unknown to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ja0qt4$ree$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:13:42 -0300, Iuri Guilherme dos Santos Martins wrote: Em 12-11-2011 17:57, Walter Hurry escreveu: On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:13:49 -0500, Doug wrote: I seem to recall that this Gnome3 and Unity first came from Ubuntu. Unity did. GNOME3 has no origin in Ubuntu. Yes, Unity is still using gtk2. That's not really the point, though. It is irrelevant whether Unity uses GTK2, GTK3 or GTK17. Unity came from Canonical, whereas GNOME came from the GNOME Project. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9rlup$5ob$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Can we stop whining about GNOME3 please?
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:34:36 -0500, Tom H wrote: For the latest Fedora beta, gnome-shell will run even on hardware without a native 3D driver, including virt guests. Umm, there isn't a Fedora beta at the moment. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9sdls$m45$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Is for this community XFCE the most common DE to replace GNOME 3?
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:53:59 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: LXDE is even smaller and faster, but also has less features. Interesting comment. What in your opinion is missing? FWIW I am using LXDE and Openbox and have not noticed any missing functionality which cannot be remedied by editing a text file. Disclaimer: I do run a couple of GNOME applications; i.e. Gedit 2 (as I find macros useful, and there are none available AFAIK for Leafpad), and Evince, as I didn't find the default LXDE PDF viewer satisfactory. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9seg9$m45$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Can we stop whining about GNOME3 please?
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:14:07 -0500, Tom H wrote: On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Walter Hurry walterhu...@lavabit.com wrote: On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:34:36 -0500, Tom H wrote: For the latest Fedora beta, gnome-shell will run even on hardware without a native 3D driver, including virt guests. Umm, there isn't a Fedora beta at the moment. Fedora has rawhide, which is a permanent beta. Not so. Fedora 17 is not even alpha yet. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9seka$m45$3...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Is GNOME 2 panel still in unstable?
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 13:18:13 +, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:54:43 +, Richard wrote: Sorry printscreen doesn't function until logged in. You can use a digital still camera or your cell phone's one :-) Or xnest -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9oh28$t1k$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Is GNOME 2 panel still in unstable?
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 16:17:01 +, Camaleón wrote: I think Fedora 15 shipped gnome-shell 3.0, the same we have right now in Debian. But again, this 3.0 release provides little to nothing customization options unless you manually go and edit the required files. Upcoming versions of the shell will improve this a lot. Indeed it did. That was my reason for switching to LXDE on Fedora. But I have been so happy with LXDE that I use it on Debian Squeeze as well, even though Squeeze still has GNOME2. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9m71v$pmt$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Debian is asking for DVD...
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:14:46 -0500, Douglas Saylor wrote: On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 2:01 AM, Victor Nitu vic...@debian-linux.ro wrote: Please paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list here, as I suspect a setup removable media still hanging around in the settings. I hope you have network access on the troubling machine... # # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.3 _Squeeze_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1 20111008-13:01]/ squeeze main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.3 _Squeeze_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1 20111008-13:01]/ squeeze main deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main # squeeze-updates, previously known as 'volatile' deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main Ah ...so I could # or since it's copied twice, delete out the deb cdrom notation? (I do have network access) Yes, comment out or remove the second instance. Victor nailed it. Please don't post HTML. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9m789$pmt$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:13:49 -0500, Doug wrote: I seem to recall that this Gnome3 and Unity first came from Ubuntu. Unity did. GNOME3 has no origin in Ubuntu. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9mmkj$8c9$1...@dough.gmane.org
Can we stop whining about GNOME3 please?
It seems fashionable to complain about GNOME3. If you don't like it (and personally I detest it), then you have three choices: a) Wait until it improves (3,2, 3.3, 3.4)? b) Put up with it as it as it is. c) Switch to another desktop environment. There are several to choose from. GNOME2 is not coming back. Fallback mode is for a limited time only. But it seems to me that complaining gains little or nothing. Just my 2c. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9n23f$uqp$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: problems
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:47:07 +, HEDDY, WILLIAM wrote: To whom it may concern, I downloaded and installed Debian on my computer last night and I rebooted the computer and now all that comes up is a white cursor on a black screen. Did I just completely kill my Windows 7 operating system? One certainly hopes so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9k8tb$kdv$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Adobe flash is dead
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 10:28:53 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 09 nov 11, 20:14:28, Walter Hurry wrote: On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 19:51:14 +, Andrew Wood wrote: Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by default? Interesting question. Which distributions do that? Debian of course :) It didn't for me when I installed Squeeze. Maybe I did it differently. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9g3ke$kcd$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: OT: Just a simple query
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 13:34:59 -0500, Doug wrote: Out of curiosity I downloaded the LIVE Fedora 16. The user interface is like nothing I ever saw. If this is the future of computing, I think I'll go back to pocket calculator and typewriter! Fedora is my main distribution, though I use Debian Squeeze as well. I abandoned GNOME when Fedora 15 emerged with GNOME3, and after trying KDE, XFCE and LXDE, adopted LXDE as my DE instead. I have never looked back. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9eidj$hr0$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Adobe flash is dead
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 19:51:14 +, Andrew Wood wrote: Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by default? Interesting question. Which distributions do that? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9emv4$4rm$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Adobe flash is dead
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 19:51:14 +, Andrew Wood wrote: Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by default? Interesting question. Which distributions do that? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9emv3$4rn$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: OT: Just a simple query
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 21:12:01 -0200, Ismael Scalcon wrote: But it's still opensource, so the source code is free to download and compile. The guys at CentOS do it, they get all the source code for RHL, remove the Red Hat branding and distribute it. And the guys at Scientific Linux (Fermilab and CERN) do the same, only with a far better ethos. Personally I detest the attitude at CentOS. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9f5e7$5eu$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: wheezy update system - how?
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 23:01:01 +, Brian wrote: The fruit of timidity is neither gain nor loss. And there I was, thinking it was the ability to play and visualise MIDI files ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9f5ir$5eu$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Adobe flash is dead
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 16:10:31 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: Why bother with non-free software when we're talking about a technology that's dying like BSD these days? Because right now, realistically it's the only game in town if one wants to watch flash content. When HTML5 comes along and I am able to get rid of /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so I shall be only too delighted. Until then, one has to be pragmatic. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9f6p4$5eu$3...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Formatting external HDD
On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 20:38:50 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Ma, 18 oct 11, 17:02:39, Walter Hurry wrote: I have an external 1T USB drive, which I use to storage of AV files, plus daily (rsync) backups. It is formatted as a single partition. I use ext2 to avoid the overhead of journalling, but do carry out an e2fsck from time to time. And how long does it take? Tip: it is possible to have ext4 without a journal and still enjoy the lightning fast (compared to ext2) fsck. About a quarter of an hour - I just unmount the disk and let e2fsck run while I get on with something else. I confess I had not realised it was possible to have ext4 without a journal; thanks for the pointer. Perusing http://kernelnewbies.org/Ext4 right now. Thanks again. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9c0sp$20q$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Understanding versioning.
On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:56:02 -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: On Nov 8, 2011, at 2:07 AM, Sthu Deus wrote: it seems to me to be weird having those epoches If all software developers were well behaved and they all co- operated in their versioning, it would be weird to have epochs. All versions, from all sources, would be monotonically increasing as a function of time. But, as we know, software developers are an independent bunch of cowboys. Sometimes, for reasons that seem good and reasonable to the individual upstream developer involved, software version time seems to run backwards. Epochs are there so the rest of us (who aren't upstream developers) can pretend it didn't do that -- when the developers glitch their versions, we just move into a different epoch and go on about our lives. It might be less confusing for the uninitiated though, if the term used were incarnation rather than epoch; at least IMHO. Especially so in the light of the other *nix use of the term epoch regarding time. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9c9cb$3jh$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Permission violations
On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 22:37:38 +0100, Anon wrote: Hello, I'm not quite sure whom I should send this report to but recently I've noticed that I can remove files which owner is root and that have access mode set as 644 (see example below). I'm using Debian wheezy/sid with 3.0.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP kernel. # touch rootfile # ls -l rootfile -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Nov 8 22:21 rootfile ouid@laptop:~$ id uid=1000(ouid) gid=1000(ouid) groups=1000(ouid),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46 (plugdev),105(netdev) $ rm rootfile rm: remove write-protected regular empty file `rootfile'? y And then the file was removed, as you can see I've checked my uid, I've also checked whether there is sticky bit in bash or rm: $ ls -l /bin/rm -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 60472 Oct 1 18:48 /bin/rm $ ls -l /bin/bash -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 926536 Apr 10 2010 /bin/bash Finally I've checked my /etc/sudoers and there is no NOPASSWD set for the user. I've tried to reproduce it with another user but everything works as it should, i.e. I couldn't remove files which owner is root, so I assume that maybe there was a problem with amd64 testing netinstall iso which I installed my system from. Thanks in advance. Ability to rm a file depends on permissions on the containing directory. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9ca5t$3jh$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re: emacs RMAIL -- help needed
On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 22:52:34 +, Sian Mountbatten wrote: I have been trying to get an email client which would access my web mail. I've tried kmail -- which simply does not retrieve the mail balsa -- which asks for an SMTP address (I don't have SMTP) and I am now using emacs23. Can anybody tell me how to configure RMAIL so that it accesses my mail server. What web mail? For gmail and other accounts I use fetchmail/postfix/ procmail (and spamassassin) to retrieve using IMAP, and process. Works perfectly for me. I'm afraid I have never heard of RMAIL. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9cl8h$ftk$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Gnome Control Panel Is there one?
On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:43:39 -0600, John W. Foster wrote: I have Linux Mint Ubuntu Installed So why are you asking this question on a Debian list? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9cmae$q35$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: install glitch - re. networking
On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 15:43:24 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: I find myself in an odd situation: - I have a box I use as a sandbox, at home - I've installed all kinds of different distributions on it over the past couple of years - I recently installed OpenSuse with no problems, but then I tried to reinstall Debian (Squeeze) off a CD-Rom, and the installer hangs when it goes off to detect network hardware -- this is repeatable - if I just let it boot the OpenSuse distro that's currently on the hard drive, everything comes up fine - so the NIC, DHCP on our home LAN, and so forth all are working - so any thoughts on what might be going wrong, or how to track down what's happening? note: I'm pretty sure that I installed Squeeze on this box at some point, but it could be that the last Debian install was Lenny - and recent discussion suggests that some of the network plumbing has changed, perhaps in ways that are incompatible with my network card. Thanks for any suggestions. Here's a suggestion: Next time you ask a question like this, tell us what NIC you have. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j99g8q$4i9$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: install glitch - re. networking
On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 16:03:14 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Walter Hurry wrote: On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 15:43:24 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: I find myself in an odd situation: - I have a box I use as a sandbox, at home - I've installed all kinds of different distributions on it over the past couple of years - I recently installed OpenSuse with no problems, but then I tried to reinstall Debian (Squeeze) off a CD-Rom, and the installer hangs when it goes off to detect network hardware -- this is repeatable - if I just let it boot the OpenSuse distro that's currently on the hard drive, everything comes up fine - so the NIC, DHCP on our home LAN, and so forth all are working - so any thoughts on what might be going wrong, or how to track down what's happening? note: I'm pretty sure that I installed Squeeze on this box at some point, but it could be that the last Debian install was Lenny - and recent discussion suggests that some of the network plumbing has changed, perhaps in ways that are incompatible with my network card. Thanks for any suggestions. Here's a suggestion: Next time you ask a question like this, tell us what NIC you have. Easier said than done - the box is an off-brand box assembled by a local computer store - there's a broadcom chip on the motherboard, and an Intel card that I installed separately - but I'd have to do some dissassembly to find specific model numbers (or figure out what commands work in OpenSuse to grab the information). [Now if these were the production servers, in the data center, I'd have no problem providing details.] Up to now, hardware autodetect has worked just fine - finding both NICs, identifying them, and giving me a choice. Now it all just hangs. I expect that I could escape out of the installer, and plug in some magic incantations - but a little guidance is what I'm looking for. (I have a vague memory that there's a package of non-free NIC drivers floating around that might need to be installed for the broadcom chip to work, but not the Intel one.) So OpenSuse doesn't have the standard commands to list your PCI and/or USB hardware? That's difficult to believe. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j99li1$8kl$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: KVM networking.
On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 02:18:08 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Good time of the day. I try to run KVM network w/o under normal user w/ the following result: /usr/bin/kvm -localtime -m 256 -no-reboot -cdrom ./debian-6.0.2.1-amd64-netinst/debian-6.0.2.1-amd64-netinst.iso -boot d -hda ./da -net nic -net tap,ifname=tap0,script=no kvm: -net tap,ifname=tap0,script=no: could not configure /dev/net/tun (tap0): Operation not permitted kvm: -net tap,ifname=tap0,script=no: Device 'tap' could not be initialized the user has write permission for /dev/kvm and has these permissions in sudoers file though it seems it is not used (as it asks not for sudo password): user ALL = /sbin/ifconfig *, /sbin/ifup br0, /sbin/ifdown br0, /sbin/ip *, /sbin/brctl *, /sbin/tunctl * So, what's wrong w/ my setup? $ cd w bash: cd: w: No such file or directory cd /w bash: cd: /w: No such file or directory I am baffled by your mention of w/. Can you amplify please? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j96qsa$i9v$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: KVM networking.
On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 16:46:46 -0600, Christofer C. Bell wrote: On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Walter Hurry walterhu...@lavabit.com wrote: On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 02:18:08 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Good time of the day. I try to run KVM network w/o under normal user w/ the following result: So, what's wrong w/ my setup? $ cd w bash: cd: w: No such file or directory cd /w bash: cd: /w: No such file or directory I am baffled by your mention of w/. Can you amplify please? In this case, w/ is an abbreviation of the word with. You can replace the statement with: I try to run KVM network without under normal user with the following result: and So, what's wrong with my setup? This, admittedly, doesn't make much sense, either, but without and with are the accepted expansions of w/o and w/. It is not a directory name. Ah, right. I misunderstood; I thought we wrote in words here rather than l33t spk 4 txt msgs. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9760m$40j$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: wheezy konqueror - cannot download Adobe Flashplayer
On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:19:27 +, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 16:49:43 +, Sian Mountbatten wrote: Camaleón wrote: On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 23:21:13 +, Sian Mountbatten wrote: Konqueror displays the following when I try to download Ubuntu APT version --/cfusion/downloadcenter/flashplayer/otherversions/[object HTMLAnchorElement]/ (...) Try with the tar.gz file. It is the easiest way to get the plugin from Adobe's site. You only have to place the *.so file into the plugins folder. I tried that, but it did not work. However, from another reply, I have installed the flashplugin-nonfree package which does work. Maybe is that you did something wrong because this option has been working since years for me :-) Indeed. As I understand it all the flashplugin-nonfree does in essence is to install a script which effectively does the same thing. For my part, all I do (for Firefox/Iceweasel) is download the .tgz from Adobe, extract libflashplayer.so, throw away anything else, copy it into the plugins directory (/usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins in my case) and set the permissions appropriately. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j918ba$nrm$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: wheezy konqueror - cannot download Adobe Flashplayer
On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:45:14 +, Walter Hurry wrote: On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:19:27 +, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 16:49:43 +, Sian Mountbatten wrote: Camaleón wrote: On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 23:21:13 +, Sian Mountbatten wrote: Konqueror displays the following when I try to download Ubuntu APT version --/cfusion/downloadcenter/flashplayer/otherversions/[object HTMLAnchorElement]/ (...) Try with the tar.gz file. It is the easiest way to get the plugin from Adobe's site. You only have to place the *.so file into the plugins folder. I tried that, but it did not work. However, from another reply, I have installed the flashplugin-nonfree package which does work. Maybe is that you did something wrong because this option has been working since years for me :-) Indeed. As I understand it all the flashplugin-nonfree does in essence is to install a script which effectively does the same thing. For my part, all I do (for Firefox/Iceweasel) is download the .tgz from Adobe, extract libflashplayer.so, throw away anything else, copy it into the plugins directory (/usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins in my case) and set the permissions appropriately. To clarify, that means I do the same as Camaleón. Permissions should be 755, btw. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j918kc$nrm$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re: gnome3 now in wheezy?
On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 13:27:01 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: GNOME Shell is the defining technology of the GNOME 3 user experience. That's exactly the problem, and precisely why I have moved on to LXDE. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j91inb$4jg$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Wifi with squeeze on Lenovo X61s laptop - difficulties
On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:39:29 -0200, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: On Sex, 04 Nov 2011, Sian Mountbatten wrote: Problem solved by installing wheezy. Couldn't you just post this once por thread, instead of replying to each message saying the same thing? Problem solved by consigning Mountbatten to the bozo bin. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j91ivo$4jg$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Can I insall from xp partition?
On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:29:57 +, Sian Mountbatten wrote: USB stick. He had a small one (yes, he said it was small) with only 4GB (which to me is vast) for only £15 LOL. A fiver at most. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j8umra$fu6$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: creaing new 3.0.4 kernel in squeeze --kernel panic
On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 19:43:20 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: It is important that you *not* use traditional device nomenclature, such as /dev/hda1 /dev/sda1 Why? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j8q0c5$noi$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: creaing new 3.0.4 kernel in squeeze --kernel panic
On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:00:54 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 19:46:13 -0400 (EDT), Walter Hurry wrote: On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 19:43:20 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: It is important that you *not* use traditional device nomenclature, such as /dev/hda1 /dev/sda1 Why? Two reasons. First, whether an IDE hard disk shows up as /dev/hda, /dev/hdb, etc. or /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, etc. depends on which drivers are being used. For example, the 2.6.32-3-686 kernel and earlier ones use the traditional IDE drivers, with device names /dev/hda, /dev/hdb, etc. The 2.6.32-5-686 and later kernels use the libata SCSI emulation drivers, with device names /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, etc. Second, the devices are not necessarily discovered in the same order every time with newer kernels. Let's say you have a system with one hard disk and one CD-ROM drive. On one boot, your hard disk may be assigned device name /dev/sda and the CD-ROM drive may be assigned the device name /dev/sdb. But on the next boot, it is possible that the CD-ROM drive may be assigned the device name /dev/sda and the hard disk may be assigned the device name /dev/sdb. You can never be sure. By using UUIDs or LABELs, you will always get the same physical partition mounted as the root file system every time, regardless of what its device name happens to be in the current boot. The same applies to non-root file sytems in /etc/fstab (i.e. /boot, /home, etc.) But my (single internal) hard disk is always /dev/sda, and my two external USB disks are always /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc. So what difference does it make? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j8q3n0$eor$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: [Semi-OT] Automatic subscription to self-opened bug reports
On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 13:13:01 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Tom H wrote: Walter Hurry wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Auto-subscribing to Debian bugs I file [redacted the munged URL] 404 http://madduck.net/blog/2008.06.20:auto-subscribing-to-debian-bugs-i- file/ Thanks Tom for the correction. My cut-n-paste ran into my editor macro for i-I. Walter, Sorry for not catching it before posting. Thanks, Bob; no problem. I do think it is laughable that this is necessary, though. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j8hjsj$og4$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: [Semi-OT] Automatic subscription to self-opened bug reports
On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 15:54:08 +, Camaleón wrote: Hello, I would like to know if there is a way to get automatically subscribed¹ to Debian bugs I report. I mean, something like a tag I can use when I report the bug by e-mail or something at reportbug I can select to automate this task. As far as I can see, this can be done manually after receiving the bug number confirmation but it requires of two extra e-mails from the bug reporter: one to bug#-subscribe@ to get subscribed and a second one to confirm the subscription. How are you people managing this? Thanks for any hints :-) ¹http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer.en.html#subscribe If the original submitter is not automatically subscribed (and yes, I believe you), that seems absolutely stupid to me. Sorry for the bluntness. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j8he69$kua$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: [Semi-OT] Automatic subscription to self-opened bug reports
On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 12:23:45 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Camaleón wrote: I would like to know if there is a way to get automatically subscribed¹ to Debian bugs I report. Auto-subscribing to Debian bugs I file http://madduck.net/blog/2008.06.20:auto-subscribing-to-debian-bugs-I- file/ 404 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j8hgiq$5e7$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Just a simple query
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 22:55:40 +0530, Linux Tyro wrote: Hi, I am beginner in Linux and do another job. But I use computer very less. Just a simple doubts regarding the selection. Please suggest me regarding the following: Debian vs openSUSE for a novice I am very beginner, however, I do have used Linux (only installed and net surfed in it) but never learned simply because I didn't get the time. Please let me know regarding and once selected I would be with that distro to learn that (no matter how much time I need). I may get flamed for this (we are on a Debian list after all), but both are IMHO quite straightforward and simple to use for virtually all mainstream tasks, provided one reads and follows the instructions on the side of the tin. Leaving aside technical considerations however, personally I would not consider SUSE because of the Novell (hence Micro$oft indirectly) connection. But that is just my preference. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j89gjm$s2m$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Recommendation for National Public Radio player
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:47:33 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: Recommendation for National Public Radio player National? What nation? Don't bother to answer; I can guess, since you did not mention one. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j8a26f$asr$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: bad downloads during apt-get upgrade
On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 00:42:15 +, Steve Kleene wrote: snip output I'm not sure how to interpret all of that output, but it looks bad. Thanks for your help. I agree with Bob. It would be a good plan to be ready to replace the disk and restore from backup at any moment. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j852gl$3hj$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: GRUB2 in edit mode
On Sat, 22 Oct 2011 20:31:46 +, Camaleón wrote: I was talking about the kernel parameter boot_delay that you can pass to the kernel line of GRUB2 to slowdown the messages presented on the screen when your computer boots. Hope now is more clear. It was crystal clear in the first place. Only a moron could have thought that it referred to the GRUB timeout. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j7val2$icr$1...@dough.gmane.org
