Re: Do ATI HD cards have good working drivers for Linux (Debian Squeeze in particular)
Hello again, It turns out that the problem was not having the proper driver for my i3 processor's integrated graphics. I had the drivers for a previous processor versions and after this upgrade, I get the maximum resolution supported by my screen. On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 5:40:03 PM UTC+5:30, aditya menon wrote: Hello everyone, I'm planning to get a new computer, and the one I really like is an All-in-one from Lenovo with ATI HD 6450 graphics. Does anyone have experience with that? I made a huge mistake last time by getting an nVidia Optimus card, it turned out that neither Linux nor many games work properly with it (nVidia's fault for not releasing proper drivers). I tried a lot of stuff including bumblebee etc (which doesn't work but I botched the uninstall and it still lives on my computer) I want to mitigate that risk this time... please help? Thanks! -- sincerely, aditya menon - +91989309 - http://www.forrst.me/adityamenon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/77207f1d-02e8-419f-98d1-114d6e7df...@googlegroups.com
Re: What commands do I need to remove all vestiges of X + Bumblebee from my Squeeze installation?
Thanks, I'll try the Purge option. However, there is a slight difficulty because I don't know what packages X has installed... there are many xserver-xorg-* packages I can't track down - will it be okay if I do a regex remove (something like `aptitude purge xserver-*`, for example)? Also, Bumblebee was not installed via Aptitude, and even after following the instructions to uninstall it won't go away... I can understand if it's not possible to help me with this info, no problem... On Sunday, July 15, 2012 9:30:01 AM UTC+5:30, Gary Dale wrote: On 14/07/12 09:32 PM, aditya menon wrote: span style=white-space:pregt; Hello! gt; gt; I have had to install and remove X multiple times using aptitude gt; trying to debug my graphic card. Now, I#39;m ready to give up and simply gt; get X as it is. gt; gt; I also have tried the uninstall process outlined in Bumblebee#39;s gt; documentation, but it still tries to start up (I can see it calling gt; #39;starting Bumblebeed - failed#39;) when I start the system on terminal. gt; gt; So I#39;d like to restore my system to a #39;clean#39; level, without gt; re-formatting. I have no real personal data on the install, but it#39;s gt; a pain to reformat. I want to achieve a state where there is no X or gt; bumblebee... help please? gt; gt; Thanks!/span Use the purge option with aptitude to remove the configuration files as well as the packages. However, to debug your graphics card, we#39;d need more information. Linux amp; X work with almost anything you can throw at it, even if it doesn#39;t enable all the high-end features. You may however need to install Wheezy if your card is really new. /div -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/c652b7a8-767d-4c04-8342-5d8bc4998...@googlegroups.com
Re: What commands do I need to remove all vestiges of X + Bumblebee from my Squeeze installation?
Hi, Kindly disregard my previous message - I've done a reinstall of the OS, and I'm about to start a new thread for recommendations. Thanks... On Sunday, July 15, 2012 7:30:01 AM UTC+5:30, aditya menon wrote: Hello! I have had to install and remove X multiple times using aptitude trying to debug my graphic card. Now, I#39;m ready to give up and simply get X as it is. I also have tried the uninstall process outlined in Bumblebee#39;s documentation, but it still tries to start up (I can see it calling #39;starting Bumblebeed - failed#39;) when I start the system on terminal. So I#39;d like to restore my system to a #39;clean#39; level, without re-formatting. I have no real personal data on the install, but it#39;s a pain to reformat. I want to achieve a state where there is no X or bumblebee... help please? Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of quot;unsubscribequot;. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/56fd283b-ffb4-4fc7-be07-123fc7be0...@googlegroups.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/678e01ec-2ddc-415a-b0f0-3cb794c9c...@googlegroups.com
What commands do I need to remove all vestiges of X + Bumblebee from my Squeeze installation?
Hello! I have had to install and remove X multiple times using aptitude trying to debug my graphic card. Now, I'm ready to give up and simply get X as it is. I also have tried the uninstall process outlined in Bumblebee's documentation, but it still tries to start up (I can see it calling 'starting Bumblebeed - failed') when I start the system on terminal. So I'd like to restore my system to a 'clean' level, without re-formatting. I have no real personal data on the install, but it's a pain to reformat. I want to achieve a state where there is no X or bumblebee... help please? Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/56fd283b-ffb4-4fc7-be07-123fc7be0...@googlegroups.com
Do ATI HD cards have good working drivers for Linux (Debian Squeeze in particular)
Hello everyone, I'm planning to get a new computer, and the one I really like is an All-in-one from Lenovo with *ATI HD 6450 *graphics. Does anyone have experience with that? I made a huge mistake last time by getting an nVidia Optimus card, it turned out that neither Linux nor many games work properly with it (nVidia's fault for not releasing proper drivers). I tried a lot of stuff including bumblebee etc (which doesn't work but I botched the uninstall and it still lives on my computer) I want to mitigate that risk this time... please help? Thanks! -- sincerely, aditya menon - +91989309 - http://www.forrst.me/adityamenon
Re: Do ATI HD cards have good working drivers for Linux (Debian Squeeze in particular)
Hi Ralf, Sorry about the formatting, I'll keep it plain from now on =) Thank you for your detailed reply. The main reason I want Graphics card support on Linux is that I want a high resolution to work with. The integrated card offers atrocious support for resolution (only 800x600). So the summary would be that there are open source drivers available, they do work, but I may be violating licences - am I right? On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.netwrote: On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 17:30 +0530, aditya menon wrote: All-in-one from Lenovo with ATI I bought a mobo with an integrated ATI that as separated card has got proprietary driver support, but the integrated thingy only worked with the FLOSS driver, without 3D acceleration. The manual does call it Integrated ATI Radeon X 1250-based graphics, the keyword seems to be based. I bought a NVidia card for the mobo. I suspect that for many needs Intel graphics will work best with Linux, but I don't know people playing games, perhaps Intel graphics don't fit to gamer's needs. For NVidia cards I only heard about issues with the new proprietary drivers, but older drivers work like a charm. Since I'm a kernel-rt user, there's a serous license issue. Nouveau (FLOSS) is a PITA for many needs and many tasks and nv (FLOSS) is dropped, just a few distros still ship with the nv driver. The proprietary driver is hard to use with a kernel-rt and if it should work, than you'll offend the licenses. I dunno if there are licenses issues for ATI too, there shouldn't be such issues for Intel drivers. Cheers, Ralf PS: I like the color of your email, but it's uncommon to forma mails to mailing lists by HTML, please use plain text only. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1342009161.2072.13.camel@precise -- sincerely, aditya menon - +91989309 - http://www.forrst.me/adityamenon
Re: Do ATI HD cards have good working drivers for Linux (Debian Squeeze in particular)
Okay, thanks again... I'll research more again if the card is supported (and whether I can get extended VGA standards) :) On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.netwrote: If a card isn't supported, than usually the open source vesa driver does work without 3D acceleration and only with a limited resolution, take a look at (extended) vesa standards. Oops, (extended) VGA standards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1342011376.2072.24.camel@precise -- sincerely, aditya menon - +91989309 - http://www.forrst.me/adityamenon
Re: Do ATI HD cards have good working drivers for Linux (Debian Squeeze in particular)
Thank you, *everyone*, for the very helpful and detailed replies! I am much more confident of that chip now. Looks like it's a Buy ;D On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 17:30:05 +0530, aditya menon wrote: I'm planning to get a new computer, and the one I really like is an All-in-one from Lenovo with *ATI HD 6450 *graphics. Does anyone have experience with that? I made a huge mistake last time by getting an nVidia Optimus card, it turned out that neither Linux nor many games work properly with it (nVidia's fault for not releasing proper drivers). I tried a lot of stuff including bumblebee etc (which doesn't work but I botched the uninstall and it still lives on my computer) I want to mitigate that risk this time... please help? Thanks! I find the current graphics card market very unpleasant for linux users: 1/ Intel chipsets are usually well supported from the open source driver but their hardware is (or can be, depending on the user needings) a bit lacking. 2/ nVidia has a good deal between their hardware (apart from their bambidubi thingy, of course) and driver but you probably end up using the closed source one which is very good but non free. 3/ ATI... well, ATI has (or should have by now) a good open source driver (radeon) and also powerful VGA cards/chipsets but you'd first ensure the chipset you are planning to buy is supported within the kernel version you planning to install. Let's see. ATI HD 6450 pertains to their northern island (caicos)¹ series and looking into the Xorg card matrix², it seems this chipset is supported since kernel 2.6.38 (remember that Squeeze has an older kernel 2.6.32 but there's still the backported one 3.2.x). ¹ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units#Northern_Islands_.28HD_6xxx.29_series ² http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature#Feature_Matrix_for_Free_Radeon_Drivers Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jtk192$4fh$6...@dough.gmane.org -- sincerely, aditya menon - +91989309 - http://www.forrst.me/adityamenon
Re: How to install drivers for this nVidia graphics card?
Hi Tom and everybody, Really sorry, I'll make sure to never reply personally again. It's kind of common sense, I should have resisted the temptation to just hit the reply button on every mail... I'll send all mail to debian-user@lists.debian.orgfrom now - that's the right thing right? You can still track what I'm saying, correct? Yes, indeed, X does work once I rid the system of nvidia drivers, the xorg.conf file and install something like vesa for instance. The main problem right now is less about X not starting and more about the low resolution (which I'm guessing is because there is no nVidia support). You are right, I have Optimus on my laptop, and I tried installing bumblebee to no success :( I'm attaching my X files again so everyone else can try to see what the problem is, too... Also, I have the *same* laptop make, lspci output, and probably even the same X configuration and errors, as this guy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1790201 - and what I want is a better screen resolution, just like the OP. I tried to implement the answers over there by messing with my X files, but I keep breaking things. May I please have instructions, or Step-by-Step links to instructions? Reply #8 to that thread sounds tantalizingly like a solution but whatever I write into the x.conf file to implement it, ends up in a syntax error... On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 2:18 AM, Tom deb...@virta.be wrote: Hey Aditya, You shouldn't write to people on mailing lists directly. It's bad form and more importantly prevents a possible answer from being archived for others to find. Besides, plenty of people on the list know plenty of things about X that I don't. I did try that wiki page - installing all those things step by step. Ehm, I only mentioned Bumblebee because I believe your card comes with Nvidia Optimus. I haven't checked it yet, but it'll be necessary to get the best out of the card in any case. I'm still having trouble with X starting up .. attaching my X files In the meantime, as I said, it was enough to get rid of nvidia/nouveau and run X with the intel driver. So: * check lspci, if you have both a VGA line and a Display controller line, the latter is probably Intel * if so, get rid of nvidia/nouveau (check with something like dpkg -l '*nvidia*' | grep ^ii) * make sure you have the intel driver (xserver-xorg-video-intel), maybe install libva-intel-vaapi-driver too * for me libgl1-mesa-glx and libgl1-mesa-dri were needed too * finally, move your old xorg.conf out of the way and start X without one, it should figure it out by itself This worked for me. If it doesn't for you, please don't forget you can use Google just like anybody would have to. Only that vague error line (nvidia x no devices detected) was enough to get you started. Luck! Tom -- np: Vagon Brei - Praclarush Taonas -- sincerely, aditya menon - +91989309 - http://www.forrst.me/adityamenon xorg.conf Description: Binary data Xorg.0.log Description: Binary data
How to install drivers for this nVidia graphics card?
Hello everyone, Can you give me an easy way to install drivers for this card *Nvidia GeForce GT520M*? I'm on a laptop. I've tried many things, including this command: aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r` nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-glx from an answer I got on StackOverflow. Everything I do results in X failing to start. In fact I just re-installed X and now it refuses to start at all. So are there a set of commands I can use to simply install the driver? My primary need is to raise the resolution of the monitor... Thanks! -- sincerely, aditya menon - http://www.forrst.me/adityamenon
