Where is linux-wlan-ng?
I recently downgraded a laptop of mine (Thinkpad X24) from an out of date Testing (sarge when it was in testing) distribution to Stable (sarge as of Feb 2006). To get the pinning to work as I downgraded, I had to remove linux-wlan-ng. Unsurprisingly, now the built-in prism2 based wireless doesn't work and I can't seem to find linux-wlan-ng in the apt repositories. * Has this become unavailable? * Is it better to shift up to a 2.6.[n] kernel and use the built in prism drivers? If so are they built in or do I need to compile a custom kernel? * Is there a new package to handle this? Many Thanks, Branden -- Branden Faulls -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laptop sharing home directory with desktop
On Fri, Aug 05, 2005 at 09:12:19AM +0200, wim wrote: Luca Pireddu wrote: I just got a laptop and I'm looking for a way to keep my home directories on the laptop and my desktop synchronised (possibly with the option of excluding some paths). Looking around it seems that the InterMezzo filesystem provides what I want, but it seems to be dead (no recent releases, nothing happening on the mailing lists). Scanning the Debian packages names for 'synchroni' showed two other potential candidate tools: 1. Tra (still in early development) 2. Unison It seems that Unison is the best choice at the moment, but it would be nice to hear recommendations or advice from people with experience. I presume that this is a problem that most laptop owners run into. How are you solving it? Any recommended tools/solutions? Thanks. Luca I'll second Unison. The Gui version unison-gtk is simple and easy to use. I use it for my laptop as well as keeping all of my various usb-keys in sync with my desktop folders. I recently moved all my home directories onto an NFS server and during the migration, used Unison to ensure there weren't any conflicts with file versions. Getting the application to ignore paths temporarily/permanently is as easy as it could get. Try it, you'll like it! Branden -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
exim4 spamassassin - no spam scanning
After a recent upgrade to sarge, I decided to update exim to exim4. This was fairly painless, until I tried to configure spamassassin. Following instructions at: http://koivi.com/exim4-config/ I added a transport to /etc/exim4/conf.d/transport/30_exim4-config_spamcheck and a router to /etc/exim4/conf.d/router/850_exim4-config_spamcheck_router Mail is still being delivered fine, but the SPAM headers are not being added to the received email and the /var/log/exim4/mainlog reports that mail is being collected and delivered immediately to the necessary Maildir folder. What am I missing? How do I get Spamassassin to scan the mail and tag it so that I can filter it out with .forward rules, as I had previously? I upgraded in the hope I could get sa-learn working, but so far spamassassin is a non-starter. Any help would be appreciated. -- Branden Faulls -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dvd playback problems - dma, udev, 2.6 kernel
On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 05:25:54PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure how to disable ide-scsi using udev, but you can do a modprobe ide-cd and/or add it to /etc/modules, removing ide-scsi, then update /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst as necessary. John Branden Faulls writes: I'm trying to get DVD playback working on my Sid system running on an Epia MII mobo. After a recent upgrade from a 2.4 kernel to the 2.6.11 stock kernel, I lost my dvd cdrom drive. By installing udev and hotplug, I was able to get the drive to appear and have even managed to get Xine to play unencrypted DVDs. When I attempt playback of encrypted DVDs, Xine complains about Error cracking CSS key Since libdvdcss2 and all the related packages are installed, I suspect there is a performance issue? Running xine-check shows all is fine except for the DMA settings. This complains that DMA is likely to be disabled because of ide-scsi. Enabling DMA with hdparm -d1 /dev/scd0 fails.How do I remove ide-scsi, or is there a way to set the DMA using the udev rules? Udev is new to me, should I be using it at all? Thanks for any assistance. Branden Removing ide_scsi from my /etc/modules and doing a quick reboot has removed the DMA problem for the DVD drive. But still having DVD playback problems. Unencrypted DVDs still play fine, but playback of commercial DVDs gives me lots of libdvdread complaints about not being able to crack the css. Furthermore /var/log/messages is full of: hdc:command error: status=0x51 {DriveReady SeekComplete Error} hdc: command error: error=0x54{AbortedCommand LastFailedSense=0x05} I'm googling like a madman, but not sure what to look for now. Never had a problem with DVD on my other systems, so I'm suspecting a compatibility problem with either the Epia MII motherboard or the slot loading DVD drive. Any other thoughts? Branden -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[SOLVED] Re: dvd playback problems - dma, udev, 2.6 kernel
Finally got this worked out. First I set the DVD region on my drive with regionset, which got rid of the seek errors that hdc was complaining of. At this point I could get the DVDs to actually start playing, but then xine or mplayer would quit, complaining of css issues. This seemed odd, since I had installed libdvdcss2 previously. However, installing it again, after adding the videolan sources to apt-get, all works fine! Thanks for the help Branden -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dvd playback problems - dma, udev, 2.6 kernel
I'm trying to get DVD playback working on my Sid system running on an Epia MII mobo. After a recent upgrade from a 2.4 kernel to the 2.6.11 stock kernel, I lost my dvd cdrom drive. By installing udev and hotplug, I was able to get the drive to appear and have even managed to get Xine to play unencrypted DVDs. When I attempt playback of encrypted DVDs, Xine complains about Error cracking CSS key Since libdvdcss2 and all the related packages are installed, I suspect there is a performance issue? Running xine-check shows all is fine except for the DMA settings. This complains that DMA is likely to be disabled because of ide-scsi. Enabling DMA with hdparm -d1 /dev/scd0 fails.How do I remove ide-scsi, or is there a way to set the DMA using the udev rules? Udev is new to me, should I be using it at all? Thanks for any assistance. Branden -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Possibility of personalizing OpenOffice documents automatically?
On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 10:03:30AM -0400, Gregory Seidman wrote: On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 12:36:51PM +0200, Herv? Piedvache wrote: } On Tuesday 31 May 2005 12:08, Lee Braiden wrote: } On Tuesday 31 May 2005 11:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } No I want the operators to not be able to modify the original document } ... And to have only a main administrator of the documents ... } It's a kind of contact center, where people manage phone calls and for } each call they will attribute to the customer a status ... and this } status will produce a postal mail ... to be generated immediatly or by } batch at the end of the day ... all the mail will be printed and put in } wrap to be posted ! } } It's clearer ? ;o) } } The usual way to do this sort of thing would be with a webserver running on } your intranet, which is linked to a database, and keeps a list of your } customers. Staff can then pull up a webpage, click a button, and have the } server generate reports. } } Yes ... marvelous ... but with what kind of tool do you manage the production } of the mail ? } Yes It'll be a web application .. no problem for this ... but I want to manage } about 100 mail style sheet ... and be able to do the redaction of thoses mail } easily ... and then have a system to produce them in file and print them ... } } So how to do that ? An OOo file is a zip file containing XML files. I don't have deep insight into the XML schema used, but it is well-documented and with a little examination of a sample file I find that it is pretty simple. Importantly, simple (same-styled) spans of text in a document show up as actual text strings in the XML. It is therefore possible to put in something like X_1_X in the running text and decompress/find/replace/recompress to produce a new file. Note that it is content.xml that you want to modify. I can confirm that this process is just as simple as described. I'd create the template document, split it into its component parts on the server and then make changes to content.xml before zipping the whole thing up automagically and sending it off to the user/printer. Given the web architecture, I'd suggest doing the templating with XSL transformations on the original content.xml file. Easy peasy! Good luck. Branden -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
having trouble with xdm/xfs 4.3.0.dfsg.1-9?
[Followups set to debian-x.] Hi folks, I just wanted to bring the following information to the attention of those who may be frustrated by problems with the latest xdm and xfs packages. [...] [14 December] XFree86 4.3.0.dfsg.1-9 sneaked out with a couple of small but annoying bugs in it. Specifically, the xdm and xfs packages suffer from some bad shell syntax in conffiles. Fabio and I plan to release what it is currently on the SVN trunk as 4.3.0.dfsg.1-10 in a couple of days. In the meantime, you can grab fixes (in unified diff format) for the [14]xdm bug and the [15]xfs bug from the archives of the debian-x mailing list. 14. http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2004/12/msg00411.html 15. http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2004/12/msg00410.html [...] The above is from the X Strike Force news page. If you use Debian X Strike Force-maintained packages from testing or unstable, please bookmark the following site: http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/NEWS.xhtml -- G. Branden Robinson| The greatest productive force is Debian GNU/Linux | human selfishness. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Robert Heinlein http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: lost my 'c' key in X
[I am not subscribed to debian-user; please retain the debian-x list in your replies if they are on-topic.] On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 08:40:26PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Nori Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.07.20.2012 +0200]: as suggested in an earlier thread[1]: `setxkbmap us` (or whatever variant you're using -- for a good time, try `setxkbmap dvorak` ;) heh. sorry for not having checked the archives. it was too surreal for me to experience to even think that this may happen twice. also, the machine in question is being really wicked lately. anyway, my problem appears way before I even get an xterm. it's already present in xdm. sucks if your login name contains one of the broken characters... nevertheless, I am using the us keymap, and XF86Config-4 is correctly configured. I also see it in the logs: (**) Option XkbLayout us (**) XKB: layout: us it's cool to have a workaround, but i think we need to fix the bug at a deeper level. what the heck is going on? and why 'c' and 'e'? sounds like a corruption of the keyboard map files to me. or something like that... A problem sounding suspiciously similar to this afflicts U.K. keyboard users who had specified uk as their XkbLayout rather than gb. The XKB layout names are based on ISO 3166 country codes, which means that the U.K. gets the odd country code of gb rather than uk. Does this information help any? -- G. Branden Robinson| If atheism is a religion, then Debian GNU/Linux | health is a disease. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Clark Adams http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a Province of China?
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 07:28:49PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: Given what I understand of the politics and history of Taiwan/China, I think it is unlikely that the two use the same language *in every detail*. Particularly, I doubt that their usage of technical language jargon is the same. I'm just a naïve gaijin[1], but I'm not sure you're right about that. Written zh_CN and zh_TW look very similar to Western eyes. I've seen a comparison of the two in some Sun documentation, and they really just looked like the exact same glyphs in two different fonts. Like look at English lettering in bold versus normal weight. (Not *exactly* like that, but close). Sun Microsystems has a lot of expertise in this area. We have nothing to gain by taking sides political conflicts like this. The Debian OS can be customized by regional interests if needed. Beijing and Taipei can each make their own politically-correct forks of Debian if they need to, deleting offensive nomenclature about the other country. Similarly, Kurds in Iraq or Turkey may create Kurdistan GNU/Linux, to the irritation of the Turkish government and the U.S. occupation force in Iraq. Chechen rebels or Basque separatists could fork Debian, too. IMO, we should neither try to take a strong position on these politically explosive issues, nor should we try to walk on eggshells. I think we should take a similar approach as we do to package management. If we have developer(s) willing to vouch for legitimacy of a locale, and willing to maintain support for it, we should include it. If some governmental interest needs to bowdlerize our distribution to satisify their political sensibilities, they can go ahead. I think it says a lot about Debian success that we've come as far as we have -- we're a long way from worrying about fortunes-off and the Purity Test. Now we're worried about pissing off governments. :) If any Chinese would like to offer me some education on this subject in private mail, please feel free. I have read the Wikipedia article on the Republic of China[3] already, though. [1] Yes, I know that's not a Chinese word. [2] At the same time, from my modest knowledge of Chinese history since 1949, it's hard to find neutral terminology. Neutral terms about this issue seem to get perverted over time into euphemisms for either unificiation or independence, and then become political footballs. [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_China -- G. Branden Robinson|I reverse the phrase of Voltaire, Debian GNU/Linux |and say that if God really existed, [EMAIL PROTECTED] |it would be necessary to abolish http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |him. -- Mikhail Bakunin signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How do I make dpkg-reconfigure rewrite XF86Config-4?
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:43:18AM +0800, Benjamin J. Tilly wrote: I have a locally modified XF86Config-4 file. I would like to 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' and have it overwritten. But it won't because the file is locally modified. [...] The FAQ does not spell out how to convince it to overwrite anyways. I've been meaning to fix that. It looks like I just need to run the right command to put the right MD5 checksum in the right format in the right place. Can anyone tell me what those values of right are? And as a follow-up, should an answer to this question be put in the FAQ? Yes. In the meantime you can get the instructions from a dexconf-written config file. Just do this: $ dexconf -output=/tmp/foo $ pager /tmp/foo -- G. Branden Robinson| There is no gravity in space. Debian GNU/Linux | Then how could astronauts walk [EMAIL PROTECTED] | around on the Moon? http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | Because they wore heavy boots. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Anti Open Source Psyops / Mind Tweakers? (they'll never believe we're really aliens dept)
to make you believe that what is said in this message cannot be reality. Karl, people like you should not be _allowed_ to see _The Matrix Reloaded_. You may think this is a joke eMail, but it is not. It resembles reality in some regard -- you must admit it. Oh, if only I could escape the reality that has a Karl Hegbloom running around without the supervision of a neurologist! That's a target on your back. So what else is new? Did you see those other guys' platforms? I mean, did you *see* them? If I run next year I'll be accused of freeing Willie Horton! http://www.teahouseofdanger.com/dti/html/WOORRDS/words_3.html http://www.unsolvedmysteries.com/usm205362.html http://mediafilter.org/MFF/USDCO.PsyWar.html http://www.greenpanthers.org/psychological-warfare.html Sorry, can't be bothered to check any of these links out at present. Unsolved Mysteries, eh? Did you notice that they killed off Robert Stack? See what loyalty they show to their faithful minions? HE GOT TOO CLOSE TO THE TRUTH, and POP, just LIKE THAT, he'd DEAD. Old age, natural causes, HAH! Just because they've classified you as paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you. If I were a religious man, I'd thank God that occasional real paranoiacs like you turn up from time to time to remind me that what I call my paranoia is really just sensible caution. And I'm not even as careful as Manoj. There are head hunters and there are head hunters. I hear there's a whole line of porn flicks by this name. Word of the day: Opportunistic Silentism That's two words. Thanks for the amusement. On a more serious note, Karl, please do get back on your medication. [1] Bizarrely enough, I've never actually seen _The Matrix_, so I don't know if the MIBs in that movie smoke or not. All I need to know about MIBs I learned from the first season of _The X-Files_, anyway. -- G. Branden Robinson| Good judgement comes from Debian GNU/Linux | experience; experience comes from [EMAIL PROTECTED] | bad judgement. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | -- Fred Brooks pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Toshiba laptop keybounce
reassign 121335 kernel thanks [I am not subscribed to debian-user.] On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 08:30:53PM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 11:14:19PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: I take it 121335 should be reassigned to the kernel, then? I would not object. However, it would probably be wise to get someone with a Toshiba to see if 2.5 really fixes the problem or not. All I've got is an unconfirmed report that it's fixed. If the new input system in 2.5 doesn't fix it then I'm afraid that you'll still have to work around it in X, or wait until someone like Marcello takes over control. If some folks with Toshiba laptops would visit: http://bugs.debian.org/121335 and attempt to reproduce this problem, Herbert and I would very much appreciate it. -- G. Branden Robinson| Convictions are more dangerous Debian GNU/Linux | enemies of truth than lies. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Friedrich Nietzsche http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Microsoft's plans to kill open source: TCPA
On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 12:19:44PM -0500, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: FUD! FUD FUD FUD FUD!!! This is completely all wrong. Recently a talk was given at MIT by one of the designers of Microsoft Palladium (their trusted computing initiative) at MIT. I was at the talk, which received lots of coverage on sites like slashdot and arstechnica. I reel at your credulity, sir. No less a personage as Steve Ballmer has described FS/OSS as enemy number one, or words to that effect. Microsoft has bent its every division to a single goal in the past; it would be foolish to assume that they aren't doing so this time. -- G. Branden Robinson| Debian GNU/Linux | De minimis non curat lex. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | msg10857/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Make Debian better (Re: Two Debian 3.0 reviews at Slashdot)
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 12:15:16PM -0700, Michael Cardenas wrote: On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 12:49:34PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 09:07:48AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: - broken home/end keys in bash in xterm (even in Woody) You'll have to persuade the upstream bash/libreadline cabal that actually supporting DEC VT100 and later terminal emulation is a worthwhile thing to do, instead of half-assing their way through it. Isn't it the downstream packager's job to take upstream and configure it in a usable way for most users? It seems that if the patches discussed earlier in this thread work, then whining about upstream attitudes is just an excuse for not applying them. You need to know whereof you speak before you shoot off your mouth like this. * VT220+ terminal emualtion is a stateful thing. Certain keys have a one meaning in application-keypad mode, and another meaning in normal mode. Terminal control sequences can (and will) move the terminal in and out of application-keypad mode. /etc/inputrc doesn't know how to express if the terminal is in application-keypad mode, issue this escape sequence when the Home key is pressed; else issue this other escape sequence. * It is not the downstream packager's job to fix major design flaws in upstream software. * There are times when shortsightedness makes it impossible to please all of the users, because they have conflicting expectations. * Sometimes Debian developers don't have the skills or knowledge necessary to fix a problem. Hypothetically, it may be the case that Debian's bash package maintainer isn't a wizard when it comes to the details of DEC terminal emulation, and/or cannot think of and implement a clever way to track arbitrary states for arbitrary keygroups in libreadline so as to achieve a general solution. Should we really expect so much of our package maintainers, or should we simply expect them to do a good job *packaging* software? I think not; not unless you're willing to underwrite their educational expenses. Whining about Debian developers whining about upstream implies that you expect Debian developers to fix every problem. For instance, I suppose you expect me as XFree86 package maintainer to configure XFree86 in a usable way for most users that don't even use video cards that XFree86 supports. If that is true, perhaps you'd like to arrange to get programming documentation from the manufacturers of such video cards, supply me with the hardware in question, and pay me enough money that it would it be a worthwhile use of my time to do such a thing. If *you're* offended by the home/end issue, perhaps *you* should stop complaining and put some of your effort to resolving the limitations of bash/libreadline when it comes to keeping track of the terminal's application-keypad state. Finally, you should be careful to ensure that your words don't get interpreted as coming from the domain identified in the From: line of your message, or the organization identified in your .signature, if your words aren't to be taken as position statements from that company. -- G. Branden Robinson|I'm sorry if the following sounds Debian GNU/Linux |combative and excessively personal, [EMAIL PROTECTED] |but that's my general style. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |-- Ian Jackson msg08181/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Make Debian better (Re: Two Debian 3.0 reviews at Slashdot)
[I am not subscribed to -user.] On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 09:07:48AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: - broken home/end keys in bash in xterm (even in Woody) You'll have to persuade the upstream bash/libreadline cabal that actually supporting DEC VT100 and later terminal emulation is a worthwhile thing to do, instead of half-assing their way through it. - missing apt localisation extensions (who t.f. told we that we are going to release in the next few weeks, again and again for almost 6 months?!) It's a western Canadian conspiracy to have the whole world talking English, eh? - centralised setup tool which would reconfigure etherconf, pppoeconf, and do sth. as gx-debconf does, but be more understandable. Like the configlet-capplet frontend (cf. configlet-frontends)? -- G. Branden Robinson| Never underestimate the power of Debian GNU/Linux | human stupidity. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Robert Heinlein http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | msg08190/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Make Debian better (Re: Two Debian 3.0 reviews at Slashdot)
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 01:21:00PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 02:45:44PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: Whining about Debian developers whining about upstream implies that you expect Debian developers to fix every problem. For instance, I suppose My problem is some developers will tell the user to submit it upstream, when my understanding is the devel is supposed to flag it as upstream and go submit it upstream themselves, since they're supposed to have an idea what bugs are upstream anyway, and know how to provide more helpful input for upstream. And sometimes the Debian developer can't really be helpful. I, for instance, have *never* had any luck acting as a go-between for Debian users and upstream XFree86 problems. The upstream XFree86 guys *always* seem to want to deal with the user directly. This, and the lack of a bug tracking system for the XFree86 Project, is why I don't mark XFree86 bugs as forwarded in the Debian BTS. I enjoy what I think is a good working relationship with XFree86 upstream despite the fact that the Developers' Reference tells me to do things differently than I do. It is better to be accomodating of upstream than to mindlessly adhere to a Debian-specific best practices document. In this case, our users are better served the way I'm doing it, because that's how XFree86 wants to handle things. Who am I to tell them to change their ways? -- G. Branden Robinson| Convictions are more dangerous Debian GNU/Linux | enemies of truth than lies. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Friedrich Nietzsche http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | msg08236/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: inappropriate racist and other offensive material
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 09:42:48AM +0200, Alexey Vyskubov wrote: Do you really believe this? The following citation is from 'science' fortune file, which is NOT in fortune-offensive: Thus mathematics may be defined as the subject in which we never know what we are talking about, nor whether what we are saying is true. -- Bertrand Russell My speciality is mathematics and I find this citation extremely offensive. Yeah, but it's probably a good idea to stick that fortune in the offensive package, because the types of people who are likely to easily take offense likely also adhere to Creationism, believe in spontaneous generation, that the world is flat and was created in six days, that the Sun goes around the Earth, and that there's no such thing as irrational numbers. Only the last belief is consistent; after all, if your mind has an absolute monopoly on irrationality, there's none left for the rest of the universe. ;-) -- G. Branden Robinson|The first thing the communists do Debian GNU/Linux |when they take over a country is to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |outlaw cockfighting. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |-- Oklahoma State Senator John Monks pgpKqCR4nUDAp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: inappropriate racist and other offensive material
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 03:46:40PM -0600, Timothy R. Butler wrote: Just curious, but why do we have to drag Creationism into this, and further more, try to make all creationists look like backwards folks from six centuries ago? What, don't I get to have some fun in this thread, too? Does being a DPL candidate mean you have to give up your sense of humor? Darn. Oh well, if so maybe you're better qualified to run than I am. ;-) Since this conversation clearly has nothing to do with creationism, is there a benefit in insulting people who disagree with you? What's insulting about it? I'm a big fan of irrationalism. I'd read Nietzsche in the original if I were fluent in German. You wouldn't be suggesting that opposing opinions should be expressed, would you? Of course not. I'll defend to death your right to espouse what I consider erroenous or misguided beliefs. Will you do the same for me? -- G. Branden Robinson| Debian GNU/Linux | // // // / / [EMAIL PROTECTED] | EI 'AANIIGOO 'AHOOT'E http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | pgp2uiOMDmzyH.pgp Description: PGP signature
[eich@XFree86.Org: [Xpert]Trident 9397 Color Distortion Problem]
Hi folks, friendly neighborhood X maintainer here. Egbert Eich and Alan Hourihane are chipset driver authors for XFree86. Help them help you! - Forwarded message from Egbert Eich [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Egbert Eich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xpert@xfree86.org Subject: [Xpert]Trident 9397 Color Distortion Problem Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 20:02:04 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A while ago several people have posted reports about color distortion with the Trident 9397. Alan and I followed up on these reports and we had it debugged half ways when the person who helped us debugging suddenly disappeared. Neither Alan nor I have access to a 9397 therefore we have to rely on somebody else to help us. Also we don't think that if we spare our time to follow up on people's reports we ask to much if we request to do some simple tests for us. Therefore anyone seeing this problem is invited to help us tracking it down. Egbert. ___ Xpert mailing list Xpert@XFree86.Org http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson| Mob rule isn't any prettier just Debian GNU/Linux | because you call your mob a [EMAIL PROTECTED] | government. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | pgpu9aTR5NBwO.pgp Description: PGP signature
[root@eboga.d2g.com: No Screen Found]
Could someone please help this gentleman out? - Forwarded message from root [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: root [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: No Screen Found Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 01:11:16 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Hello Branden, I have an ATI radeon (mobility) upon startup x tells me no screen found. On redhat, same version, I have no problems. On #debian, some people have the SAME problem with an ATI all-in-wonder, for ages. I know you probably hate me allready, but I thought writing you this email before hanging myself with a network cable. Guillaume P.S. Sorry about the root@ email... - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson|I have a truly elegant proof of the Debian GNU/Linux |above, but it is too long to fit [EMAIL PROTECTED] |into this .signature file. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | pgpk0W38nXa5C.pgp Description: PGP signature
[tw@webit.com: [Xpert]Looking for people/machines with SiS 315,550,730]
Anyone with a SiS 315, 550, or 730 video chipset, please get in touch with this gentleman. He is current maintainer of the XFree86 sis video driver, and his involvement is critical if we want these chipsets supported in XFree86 4.x. -- G. Branden Robinson|Men use thought only to justify Debian GNU/Linux |their wrong doings, and speech only [EMAIL PROTECTED] |to conceal their thoughts. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |-- Voltaire ---BeginMessage--- Hi, if your machine has a SiS730, SiS550, SiS315, SiS315H or SiS315PRO VGA chipset, please drop me a note. Thanks, Thomas -- Thomas Winischhofer Vienna/Austria mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** http://www.webit.com/tw ___ Xpert mailing list Xpert@XFree86.Org http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert ---End Message--- pgp7qOBl3hgxz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Broadcast Solution Request
On Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 12:21:32PM -0600, Keith G. Murphy wrote: Benjamin Krueger wrote: [ X] Actually post something relevant Actually, I think getting it off all those irrelevant lists is very relevant. Not to weigh in on your other points. Oh, stop it, you'll interfere with his righteous fury. It's cruel to take away a man's sole means of finding satisfaction in life; if he can find Inner Peace from riffing on a 10-year old Standard USENET Troll Form, then I have to admit I'm envious. ;-) -- G. Branden Robinson| Never attribute to malice that Debian GNU/Linux | which can be adequately explained [EMAIL PROTECTED] | by stupidity. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | pgpn1VByH6DSD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Broadcast Solution Request
On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 10:59:04PM -0500, Charles wrote: I have published multiple radio stations from a single box using 22khz stereo Kindly get this bullshit thread off of debian-x. In all likelihood most of the readers of the other lists would like you to do likewise for them, as well. -- G. Branden Robinson|It's like I have a shotgun in my Debian GNU/Linux |mouth, I've got my finger on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] |trigger, and I like the taste of http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |the gunmetal. -- Robert Downey, Jr. pgpKKeLbgRcxY.pgp Description: PGP signature
[root@mysql.cc: Problem with ATI Radeon Mobile]
If someone could help this person out I'd appreciate it. I hope this root reads his mail... -- G. Branden Robinson|America is at that awkward stage. Debian GNU/Linux |It's too late to work within the [EMAIL PROTECTED] |system, but too early to shoot the http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |bastards. -- Claire Wolfe ---BeginMessage--- Hi Branden! Ive buyed a new Compaq Laptop with an ATI Radeon Mobile (32mb, AGP). I configured Xfree 4.1.1 with dpkg-reconfigure xfree86-server. I think configuration is ok, but when I start he always says: (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0 (II) ATI: Candidate Device section Radeon Mobile. (EE) No devices detected. Fatal server error: no screens found You can grab my config at http://mysql.cc/XF86Config-4 and the complete error log at http://mysql.cc/XFree86.0.log Can it be possible that Xfree is not supporting my Graphicscard? Please help me i dont now what the problem would is :( greets Markus Hoffelner ---End Message--- pgpR5T37OyV0X.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: XFree86: Fatal Server error
On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 06:07:28PM +0100, Scott H. Hawley wrote: I just installed XFree86 in a new installation of Debain (testing). When I try to run it XFree86, I get an error: Fatal server error could not open default font 'fixed' I've installed the xfonts-base (and of course xfree86-common) but I'm still not having any luck. I looked for a font called fixed, but I only seem to find 100dpi, 75dpi, Speedo, Type1, cyrillic, and misc. Can you recommend a solution? fixed is the name of a font alias, so you won't find any file or directory by that name. Some font package -- and no one has yet been able to figure out which one -- is apparently managing to clobber the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.alias file. There are mechanisms in the Debian Policy for ensuring that this doesn't happen, but someone is not using them. What's probably happened is that some font package is shipping /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.alias as part of their package, and so when that package is upgraded or removed, the file is automatically deleted. Alternatively, there is a prerm or postrm script that is intentionally removing this file. Running the command update-fonts-alias misc as root should fix the problem. Anything you can do to help track down which package is clobbering the fonts.alias file will have my eternal gratitude. I'd really like to think that this isn't a problem that will affect potato-woody upgraders, but since I don't know which package is at fault, I have no justification for that, and I fear the impact of this rogue package may be large. The bottom line is that as long as xfonts-base is installed, you should never have this problem (well, unless you've configured the X server to use only a font server, and that font server is unavailable or unable to serve a fixed font...). Some rogue package is screwing things up. -- G. Branden Robinson|You should try building some of the Debian GNU/Linux |stuff in main that is [EMAIL PROTECTED] |modern...turning on -Wall is like http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |turning on the pain. -- James Troup pgp1Hr4qDpmMT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: XFree86: Fatal Server error
On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 07:21:00PM +0100, Scott H. Hawley wrote: Thanks very much. I followed your advice, and I did some further checking in hopes of finding this rogue package to no avail. I have tried removing xfonts-base and re-installing it, to no avail. I even removed everything in the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ directory. I removed all other fonts and again re-installed xfonts-base. ls -l /etc/X11/fonts/misc -- G. Branden Robinson|I must despise the world which does Debian GNU/Linux |not know that music is a higher [EMAIL PROTECTED] |revelation than all wisdom and http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |philosophy. -- Ludwig van Beethoven pgp44wSXR1Kp5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Usenix LISA 2001
On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 05:28:24PM -0800, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: i'll be the guy with the long hair, black laptop case, and denim jacket. Yeah, I'm sure that'll narrow it down. Bwa ha ha ha ha. -- G. Branden Robinson| The software said it required Debian GNU/Linux | Windows 3.1 or better, so I [EMAIL PROTECTED] | installed Linux. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | pgpYGojOmL3TL.pgp Description: PGP signature
[up5a@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de: a probably FAQuestion]
This person needs some help with his laptop and X. Can someone help him out, please? -- G. Branden Robinson| Debian GNU/Linux | Please do not look directly into [EMAIL PROTECTED] | laser with remaining eye. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | ---BeginMessage--- HI. Sorry for direct s.p.amming you. After querying the docs, I have to go on mailing. Where do I direct a question? (Or could you bounce this to apropriate places?) 1.) My laptop fades to white everytime I switch from the console to the X-server 4.1.0 - I have to restart X. 2.) SuSE uses 4.0.3 or so and there it works. 3.) from the log-files I could find that SuSE-X seems to (either be more verbose in the XFree86.log or) have APM - ABI - and all extensions loading - unlike the debian one. Before I start recompiling the xserver-xfree86 package, is there already some solution for these problems. Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Tobias. ---End Message--- pgpMEby5Srsoz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: XF86 4.1 on potato
On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 08:01:29PM -0500, Carl Fink wrote: Why is SPI so against frequent, less-dramatically-different releases, anyway? SPI has absolutely nothing to do with Debian's release management practices. Note: I'm posting this to Debian-Policy as well as Debian-User, and suggest further discussion take place there. No, the Policy list isn't correct, either. -- G. Branden Robinson| Exercise your freedom of religion. Debian GNU/Linux | Set fire to a church of your [EMAIL PROTECTED] | choice. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | pgpnjtbB0aGoU.pgp Description: PGP signature
[typo@netcabo.pt: X upgrade broke NVIDIA binary driver]
Can someone who uses NVIDIA's binary-only drivers with Debian's X packages help this guy out? -- G. Branden Robinson|I am sorry, but what you have Debian GNU/Linux |mistaken for malicious intent is [EMAIL PROTECTED] |nothing more than sheer http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |incompetence! -- J. L. Rizzo II ---BeginMessage--- -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I don't know if you care about binary drivers but the last X upgrade broke 3D/DRI/GLX in the nvidia's driver. glxinfo shows: name of display: :1.0 @@Created GLX Context.. display: :1 screen: 0 direct rendering: No server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation server glx version string: 1.2 server glx extensions: client glx vendor string: Brian Paul client glx version string: 1.2 Mesa 3.0 client glx extensions: GLX_utah_direct_0_2, GLX_no_accel GLX extensions: OpenGL vendor string: `Q^D899,@256/AGP OpenGL renderer string: `Q^D899,@256/AGP OpenGL version string: `Q^D899,@256/AGP OpenGL extensions: GL_EXT_paletted_texture, GL_EXT_shared_texture_palette glu version: 1.2 Mesa 3.2 beta 1 glu extensions: GL_EXT_abgr visual x bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer ms cav id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat - -- 0x21 16 tc 0 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 16 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 None 0x22 16 dc 0 16 0 r . . 5 6 5 0 0 16 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 None 0x2a 16 tc 0 16 0 r . . 5 6 5 0 0 16 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 None 0x2b 16 tc 0 16 0 r . . 5 6 5 0 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 None 0x2c 16 tc 0 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 None 0x2d 16 dc 0 16 0 r . . 5 6 5 0 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 None 0x2e 16 dc 0 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 16 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 None 0x2f 16 dc 0 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 None For a Geforce 2 MX AGP and dmesg: NVRM: loading NVIDIA kernel module version 1.0-1541 NVRM: AGPGART: Intel 440BX chipset NVRM: AGPGART: aperture: 64M @ 0xe800 NVRM: AGPGART: aperture mapped from 0xe800 to 0xcd959000 NVRM: AGPGART: mode 2x NVRM: AGPGART: allocated 16 pages NVRM: AGPGART: freed 16 pages NVRM: AGPGART: backend released NVRM: AGPGART: Intel 440BX chipset NVRM: AGPGART: aperture: 64M @ 0xe800 NVRM: AGPGART: aperture mapped from 0xe800 to 0xcd959000 NVRM: AGPGART: mode 2x NVRM: AGPGART: allocated 16 pages NVRM: AGPGART: freed 16 pages NVRM: AGPGART: backend released I didn't submit this as a bug report because I don't know which of the packages in X caused this. I tried this with 2.2.19, 2.2.20 and 2.4.13 kernels, they all show roughly the same symptons. I did reinstall the driver after I upgraded X, so the problem isn't there. And I am absolutely sure it's not a hardware problem. I put the board in a computer with an older version of X and it worked, when I upgraded X it stopped working in the exact same way. If this was already reported of if you don't care about binary modules, I apologize. Greetings from Portugal, Pedro. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE76AgB2SBo0jBmgGARAor2AKDCMFsOVcdKhA2EAq9M4i2COPGIYQCZAVAk ClyDtI7MyDstx7XjEcUimiw= =DsAn -END PGP SIGNATURE- ---End Message--- pgpfWy6V6wMPi.pgp Description: PGP signature
[phil@mail.brainlink.com: Not configuring]
Would someone like to help this gentleman out? -- G. Branden Robinson|The errors of great men are Debian GNU/Linux |venerable because they are more [EMAIL PROTECTED] |fruitful than the truths of little http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |men. -- Friedrich Nietzsche ---BeginMessage--- Hi I'm a Newbie. Just got a copy of Offical Debian GNU/Linux along with a CD with version of 2.1. I've got the OS up and running and I'm learning how to get around in the command line. I'm trying to install xbase - now XFree86 X-window support. I deslect the proper packages (I think) and immediately after install it starts to ask a few questions (i.e. vga-16 as default, olvwm as default etc) but never gets into hardware questions. I get an installation complete message, and when I try to start (startx, xinit command) I get missing config file messages along with places Linux has looked for it. I moved a config file to the correct place and now I'm getting messages concerning keyoard configuration. HELP!!! Where can I find info on writing a proper config file WITH EXAMPLES PLEASE.Any help or even pointing me in the right direction would be great. |---| | Phil Beder | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | www.brainlink.com/~phil | |___| ---End Message--- pgpmERWTpWrQT.pgp Description: PGP signature
PROPOSED: new package: xinit
[Please followup to debian-x@lists.debian.org.] The clamor for a small package containing just what you need to get the X server started is becoming a roar in the wake of XFree86 4.x, where Mesa-enabled X clients -- with their concomitant library dependencies -- are part of xbase-clients. Some people, with justification, don't want or need all this ancillary stuff when all the really need is startx and xauth (and sometimes just xauth). Therefore, I propose to split off xauth, startx, and xinit from xbase-clients into a new package called xinit. The x-window-system-core metapackage will depend on it, and retain its existing dependency on xbase-clients, though I could possibly be persuased to move xbase-clients over to x-window-system from -core if the xinit package is implemented. Advantages of a new xinit package: 1) People who don't need Mesa libraries, etc., won't get them. This saves space. 2) It's as much of a client-side as people using things like X -indirect are likely to need. 3) People *keep* filing bugs about how bug xbase-clients plus its dependencies are, and this should satisfy some of them. 4) Should be convenient for users who have standardized on, say, the KDE, GNOME, or XFce environments and have no need for the miscellaenous Athena apps in xbase-clients. Disadvantages of a new xinit package: 1) Yet Another New X Package to keep track of. 2) Anybody who manages to not have the metapackages installed, and gets xinit but not xbase-clients, may end up wondering where that stuff is, and will file bugs instead of RTFM'ing. 3) People will probably be complaining for new things to be put in it. Like, say, xset. However, everything that xset does is accessible through X protocol requests. There's no reason that KDE or GNOME control-panel type applets can't achieve the same thing. 4) People won't understand that the purpose of the package is just to bootstrap an X session -- without using a display manager -- which might actually run on a remote host. While the programs in xinit will be X clients in the strictest sense (because they use the X protocol to communicate with an X server), they aren't user-interactive GUI apps. Sure, the purpose of the package is easily documented in the package description and elsewhere, but if you think people will read this, you've forgotten Rule #1 of Debian: armchair package maintainers never read things like package descriptions when telling another package maintainer how to organize his packages. (Hello, Nick Phillips.) I have no intention of splitting xbase-clients into xbase-clients-core, xbase-clients-dps, and xbase-clients-gl, or what have you. Extensions like Xrender, DPS, and GLX are increasingly important in XFree86, and it doesn't make sense to me to hide these things from the user. I will continue to close bugs asking for such packages, because I think what most of these people are really after is the new xinit package anyway. At present, I am leaning in favor of implementing this proposal. However, I could be dissuaded. I am seeking feedback on this proposal. I am NOT currently seeking feedback on auxiliary matters. Specifically: 1) This is NOT a proposal on what the metapackages should depend on; and 2) This is NOT a proposal on whether or how xbase-clients should be further fragmented. Both of these are issues to be decided *after* this one. Please address only the core of the proposal, which is: To create a new package xinit containing the programs xauth, xinit, and startx, and their manual pages. Comments? [Remember, please followup to debian-x@lists.debian.org.] -- G. Branden Robinson|You can have my PGP passphrase when Debian GNU/Linux |you pry it from my cold, dead [EMAIL PROTECTED] |brain. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |-- Adam Thornton pgp1RNM01b0lg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: x-window-system-core_4.1.0-7_all.deb
On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 01:37:05PM +0800, Michael Robinson wrote: I don't know what you did from 4.1.0-6 to 4.1.0-7, but it broke my Dell i5000e (ATI Rage Mobility 128, using ati driver). The screen was covered with random display glitches (correlated with CPU utilization), and when I switched back to console mode, the system locked up. Downgrading to 4.1.0-6 restored normal system operation. If you need any further information, please let me know. In the future, please ask for help on the debian-user mailing list first. You can always find out what I did to a package by reading its changelog. There were no patches applied to the ATI drivers between -6 and -7. -- G. Branden Robinson|A celibate clergy is an especially Debian GNU/Linux |good idea, because it tends to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |suppress any hereditary propensity http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |toward fanaticism.-- Carl Sagan pgpehVYtWZoM7.pgp Description: PGP signature
XFree86 news; users of TESTING or UNSTABLE, PLEASE READ
[Here are the latest news items from the X Strike Force webpage; see the URL in my .signature.] There is a small problem with a very obvious effect in XFree86 4.1.0-7. It consists of erroneous quoting of a shell variable in the file /etc/ X11/Xsession.d/99xfree86-common_start. This problem was warned about shortly after 4.1.0-7 was released on the debian-devel and debian-x mailing lists, but apparently lots of people who use Debian's releases-in-preparation, testing (woody) and unstable (sid), do not read these lists. Also, many folks apparently do not take advantage of the features of packages like reportbug, or otherwise check_the_existing_list_of_bug_reports_against_a_package before filing a new one. Remember, as satisfying as expressing your anger, frustration, and/or annoyance with a bug may be, filing additional reports just forces the maintainer to spend time doing bug triage that could be spent preparing a fixed package. In this case, however, a preview of the next release (XFree86 4.1.0-7pre8v1) is available for i386 in my repository. If you're already using either of these versions, I suggest reading the new Xsession manpage, which I almost completely rewrote to properly document the new run- parts approach to the Xsession.d directory. Just man Xsession and you're good to go. In other news, automatic usage of xmodmap on X session startup is now deprecated. The main reason for this is that unpredictable things can happen if both the system and the user are using Xmodmap files, and sometimes the user doesn't even have to have one for the keyboard to get screwed up by unintended side effects; if you want to use Xmodmap to prep the keyboard for use with the xdm greeter (login widget) for instance, you may execute it in a file like /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup, but it will get run again when the session starts, followed by a user's Xmodmap, for a total of three possible executions of Xmodmap for a single X session. Unless the files are carefully written, this can cause the keyboard to behave strangely. Therefore, on upgrading to 4.1.0- 7 or later, the files /etc/X11/Xsession.d/40xfree86-common_xmodmap and /etc/ X11/Xmodmap are no longer marked as conffiles, and are moved to /etc/X11/ Xsession.d/40xfree86-common_xmodmap.xfree86-common-old and /etc/X11/ Xmodmap.xbase-clients-old respectively, if they are unchanged from the version last distributed as a conffile with the package. This decision is made separately for each file; if you've changed it, it doesn't get moved and stays where it is, on the presumption that you're actively using this feature. What used to be /etc/X11/Xmodmap continues to be available, however, as /usr/share/ doc/xbase-clients/examples/Xmodmap, and the Xsession manual page describes how to write a replacement for /etc/X11/Xsession.d/40xfree86-common_xmodmap. Of course, if you're upgrading, you can just move the -old versions of these files back into place. Be sure to give them different names, or change their contents (say, by adding a comment), so that they aren't moved again on the next upgrade of XFree86. -- G. Branden Robinson|I've made up my mind. Don't try to Debian GNU/Linux |confuse me with the facts. [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-- Indiana Senator Earl Landgrebe http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | pgpShKJMnTiJz.pgp Description: PGP signature
[jan@trantor.ux.his.no: Nvidia Riva TNT2Pro, with XFree86 v. 4.1.0]
Can any NVidia Riva TNT2Pro owners help him out? I guess the first thing to do would be to make sure he doesn't have the dreaded Xsession bug. - Forwarded message from Jan Finjord [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Jan Finjord [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Nvidia Riva TNT2Pro, with XFree86 v. 4.1.0 Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:07:05 +0200 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I have an Nvidia Riva TNT2Pro card on my PC. It worked under the debian potato distribution, XFree86 version 3.3.6. According to the data for the 4.1.0 distribution it should work as well or better with that one. So I felt confident to upgrade to woody even if that distribution is still under testing. Well, the card doesn't seem to become recognized with the XF86_XFree86 server, version 4.1.0-7, which if I understand the documentation correctly should replace everything like XF86_SVGA version 3.3.6-38, etc. With the latter one (as well as xserver-common-v3) installed it does fire up with the old XFree86Config although so far the display and all consoles hang so that a reboot is needed. I hope you might just briefly indicate to me whether I should bet on getting the card alive with the XF86_XFree86 server, and possibly how. Or whether I should rather keep XF86_SVGA version 3.3.6. Best regards, Jan Finjord Stavanger, Norway - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson| The software said it required Debian GNU/Linux | Windows 3.1 or better, so I [EMAIL PROTECTED] | installed Linux. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | pgpfAxm7tEgX8.pgp Description: PGP signature
[danchev@spnet.net: Weird XFree 4.1.0-6 problem on Sid]
-- G. Branden Robinson|Damnit, we're all going to die; Debian GNU/Linux |let's die doing something *useful*! [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-- Hal Clement, on comments that http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | space exploration is dangerous ---BeginMessage--- Hello there, Since I've upgraded from XFree 3.3.6. to 4.0.3 and now 4.1.0 I have being experienced 2 probs with it no my Debian/Sid. First is if any non-root user tries to startx the following happend: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ startx giving up xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): server error. But if root startx , everything is OK. The second problem is : debian:~# apt-get -f install Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 532 not upgraded. 1 packages not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. Setting up xserver-xfree86 (4.1.0-6) ... dpkg: error processing xserver-xfree86 (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: xserver-xfree86 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) debian:~# Here are the configs and outputs: debian:/# cat /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc #!/bin/sh exec /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 -dpi 100 $* debian:/# debian:/etc/X11# cat Xserver /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 #RootOnly #Console #(anyone whose controlling tty is on the console) Anybody debian:/etc/X11# cat Xsession.options allow-failsafe allow-user-modmap allow-user-resources allow-user-xsession use-ssh-agent debian:/etc/X11# cat Xwrapper.config allowed_users=console nice_value=-10 debian:/etc/X11# debian:/etc/X11# dpkg -l |grep xserver ii xserver-common 4.1.0-6files and utilities common to all X servers pi xserver-common 3.3.6-38 files and utilities common to XFree86 3.x X rc xserver-svga 3.3.6-38 X server for SVGA graphics cards iF xserver-xfree8 4.1.0-6the XFree86 X server debian:/etc/X11# How can I use some X wrapper to allow other console users to startx successfully? Well I do not know how to resolve these problems. dpkg --force=all also doesn't help .Hope I was quite informative about the system Thank you in advance -- Greets, George ---End Message--- pgpWCzFEEwz6t.pgp Description: PGP signature
[jps@maxlingua.com: xfree86, installation question]
Someone please introduce this gentleman to our packaging system! :) -- G. Branden Robinson| Debian GNU/Linux | If ignorance is bliss, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | is omniscience hell? http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | ---BeginMessage--- Sorry to trouble you, but if you have a moment to answer a question, I would appreciate it. I run Debian/Sid on all my machines. I use apt and dpkg for every application but XFree86. My XFree86 server is installed by direct application of `yes | sh Xinstall.sh' in the XFree86 4.1.0 binaries directory I keep lying around. Everytime new XFree86 packages are installed on my system (I use `apt-get dist-upgrade' everyday) my XFree86 installation is broken. Then I have to run `yes | sh Xinstall.sh' again, and round and round we go! Do you have any ideas how I can bring my systems in line with the Debian packages (without losing all my installed X applications)? ---End Message--- pgpGpJd2S4Tl1.pgp Description: PGP signature
[voltan@bigpond.com: XF86_NONE]
-- G. Branden Robinson| Don't use nuclear weapons to Debian GNU/Linux | troubleshoot faults. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- US Air Force Instruction 91-111 http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | ---BeginMessage--- Hi Branden, Found your mail address from a yahoo search on XF86_NONE. My girlfriend and I have installed Debian on one of our systems.I am sure we are close to starting an X session however we recieve the XF86_NONE error along with "Can't Connet: errno = 111". Could you pls advise us what to do? Any help greatly appreciated, Kat and John. ---End Message--- pgp6wMdoIE0KV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: vim 6.0 packages
On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 07:04:45PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 08:01:44AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 29 Sep 2001, Craig Sanders wrote: On Fri, Sep 28, 2001 at 03:29:39PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Not needed, I'll settle for Essential: yes :) good idea :) I don't think so. has debian really turned into a bunch of humourless robots who can't spot a joke when it walks up and slaps them in the face? Consider the source. :- -- G. Branden Robinson| To stay young requires unceasing Debian GNU/Linux | cultivation of the ability to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | unlearn old falsehoods. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | -- Robert Heinlein pgpA0XZU7k0bd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: xlib problem
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 04:25:49AM -0500, Colin Watson wrote: On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 10:04:45PM -0400, Brian Schramm wrote: Unpacking replacement xlibs ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.1.0-6_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/mouse.xpm', which is also in package qcad dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) This bug was already fixed in qcad 1.4.6-1, so once you upgrade to that version you should be fine - but perhaps xlibs should replace qcad ( 1.4.6-1) to make this easier? Cc'd to debian-x for comments. Will be taken care of in 4.1.0-7. -- G. Branden Robinson| We either learn from history or, Debian GNU/Linux | uh, well, something bad will [EMAIL PROTECTED] | happen. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | -- Bob Church pgpsve5qGWZXo.pgp Description: PGP signature
[tpeters@xs4all.nl: XF86 on Debian documentation]
Would someone please help this gentleman out? -- G. Branden Robinson|Damnit, we're all going to die; Debian GNU/Linux |let's die doing something *useful*! [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-- Hal Clement, on comments that http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | space exploration is dangerous ---BeginMessage--- I freshly installed Debian (Progeny actually) on a new disk. First I got the problem that X isn't working the way I like it, and then I got the problem that I cannot find documentation on how exactly X is supposed to work on current Debian systems. Since you are the package maintainer, I thought I should write you directly. I really hate xdm (gmd, kdm). I want to do a startx whenever I need X, usually as a mortal. However, on my latest installation I am told that this user is not allowed to start X. Says who, why not, and what can I do about it? The /usr/X11R6/bin/X program is setuid and setgid root, as it is on my previous installation, but when I run it I get that message anyhow. I tried tracing what happens in and after the startx script, but I lost track. On debian-user someone suggested that this is configured in /etc/X11/Xserver, but I believe that that file is obsoleted: it is not in my new install, `dpkg -S` doesn't know about it (apparently on my old installation it is a relict of a previous Debian version), and I cannot find it documented anyways. Note that this file used to contain the name of the actual X server, but apparently that has been replaced by an old-fashiond symlink. So I like to know exactly how the various X components are put together and configured in current Debian systems. Is that documented somewhere? What I do find are release notes and generic X stuff that apparently does not relate well to how the Debian system actually is put together. * What is the preferred way of starting X? * What is the proper sequence of events? * What exactly are the executables, scripts, and config files that are used, and where are they supposed to live? * How and where is all that configured: - X server - access (mortals must be able to run X, not just root or gdm!) - programs to start (desktop manager, window manager, application launcher, initial programs) - X defaults. Any guidance will be welcome. -- #!$!%(@^%#%*(([EMAIL PROTECTED]@^$##*#@(%)@**$!(!^(#((#%!)%*@)($($$%(@#)*!^$)[EMAIL PROTECTED]@) Tom thriving on chaos Peters NL-1062 KD nr 149 tel.+31-204080204 Amsterdam e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---End Message--- pgp7I8LvnfjK6.pgp Description: PGP signature
[cls@truffula.sj.ca.us: xlibs vs xlib6g ?]
-- G. Branden Robinson|The basic test of freedom is Debian GNU/Linux |perhaps less in what we are free to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |do than in what we are free not to http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |do. -- Eric Hoffer ---BeginMessage--- When I tried to install licq_1.0.3-3_i386.deb on potato, I ran into a maze of dependencies, and upgrading dependent libraries ended with a deadlock between xlibs and xlib6g. Each seems to require the other already be there. And I couldn't find anything about it on debian.org. Where should I have looked to find out how this upgrade path is supposed to work? Is there an upgrade roadmap someplace? I couldn't find anything in the FAQ. TIA Cameron ---End Message--- pgpOQ1070h0hp.pgp Description: PGP signature
ALERT: XFree86 4.1.0-3 maintainer scripts hosed; please wait for 4.1.0-4
Folks might want to wait for 4.1.0-4. I'm preparing it now. Several bugs have already been filed; no one needs to add to them. The problem is understood, and the fix has been written and tested. If you already have 4.1.0-3 installed successfully, there is nothing to worry about. Data points: * the problem is in the preinst and postinst scripts of several of the packages, including ones that almost everyone has installed * if your /bin/sh is ash, you will likely have this problem * if your filesystem is screwed up so that my check_symlinks_and_bomb() shell function needs to call analyze_path(), you will have this problem no matter what your shell script interpreter is I apologize for the screwup. My own system met neither of the above criteria, so I did not detect the problem when testing my packages. Here's the changelog entry, for the morbidly curious: * debian/shell-lib.sh: - fix grievous typo in analyze_path (Closes: #110630) - also made analyze_path() more helpful (thanks, Andrew Suffield) -- G. Branden Robinson|America is at that awkward stage. Debian GNU/Linux |It's too late to work within the [EMAIL PROTECTED] |system, but too early to shoot the http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |bastards. -- Claire Wolfe pgpPhi8nHRxgF.pgp Description: PGP signature
[richard@rowell.com: X4 SHAPE extension]
Would someone help this person out? He probably is not using the X server configuration templates to generate his XF86Config-4, so he is missing the Module section. - Forwarded message from Richard Rowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Richard Rowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: X4 SHAPE extension Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:30:48 -0500 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I upgraded to your X4.03 package but none of my window managers will run now. The all complain about a missing shape extension. Any ideas? _ Richard Rowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete themselves upon execution. - Robert Sewell - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson| It's not a matter of alienating Debian GNU/Linux | authors. They have every right to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | license their software however we http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | like. -- Craig Sanders pgpGbcCimDP2r.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: problems in upgrading xdm from potato to woody.
On Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 02:26:58AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Please, if I'm in the wrong address, may you point to the good one? In the future, please direct questions like this to the debian-user mailing list. I have a big problem in upgrading xdm from potato to woody in the binary_i386 version of it. In my local network, I have several X-terminals which use X -indirect xdmserver option. After the dist-upgrade procedure, the clients no longer have the menu, because the chooser is not found. The message saids /chooser is not found. I tried to add the option in command line telling xdm where the chooser was, but the only thing I could do to fix the problem was to add a soft link: ln -s /usr/bin/X11/chooser /chooser ( in the root ! ) You should probably customize the /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config file. xdm(1) says: DisplayManager.DISPLAY.chooser Specifies the program run to offer a host menu for Indirect queries redirected to the special host name CHOOSER. XRoot/lib/X11/xdm/chooser is the default. See the sections XDMCP Access Control and Chooser. -- G. Branden Robinson|The errors of great men are Debian GNU/Linux |venerable because they are more [EMAIL PROTECTED] |fruitful than the truths of little http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |men. -- Friedrich Nietzsche pgpx3aMZSI8zM.pgp Description: PGP signature
[rpbrown@xtra.co.nz: XFree86 4.1.0-1 Emulate3Buttons doesnt work]
Could someone help this person out? Incidentally, xf86config is highly deprecated. Its database is not up to date and it only barely knows about the new 4.x XF86Config file format. Debian woody/sid users should use the X servers' debconf templates to configure the X server, perhaps seasoned with editing of the XF86Config{,-4} file. - Forwarded message from mdew [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: mdew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: XFree86 4.1.0-1 Emulate3Buttons doesnt work Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:58:42 +1200 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im sure you have heard a few problematic tails in the latest XF 4.1.0-1 in Sid.. I have the option Option Emulate3Buttons (2 button PS/2 Mouse)...nothing flash which doesnt seem to what it says, I cant copy and paste text etc... damn annoying ya know :) even configuring through xf86config, wont fix things... well thanks for the 4.1.0 release anyway :-) mdew -- id: 9DF3262C key fingerprint: B556 04DA CFD9 78DD 9215 A970 8196 FB6D 9DF3 262C - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson| You don't just decide to break Debian GNU/Linux | Kubrick's code of silence and then [EMAIL PROTECTED] | get drawn away from it to a http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | discussion about cough medicine. pgpkqYjNHXvXe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: startx -- :1, xinit
Please direct questions like this to debian-user. On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 08:51:42AM -0400, Paul wrote: Hello branden, I have a question about the startx script that you modified. Would it affect xhost in any way?? No. I recently installed the xbase-common package and replaced the startx with the one you posed to the debian newsgroup, and now I can't connect to a local xserver using xhost. I do this: # as paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xhost +localhost # as root bart:~# export DISPLAY=localhost:0.0 bart:~# kpaint kpaint: cannot connect to X server localhost:0.0 If you have any info plz let me know. Well, if you started the X server as display :1, and there is no X server on :0, that would explain the above quite tidily. -- G. Branden Robinson| Suffer before God and ye shall be Debian GNU/Linux | redeemed. God loves us, so He makes us [EMAIL PROTECTED] | suffer Christianity. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | -- Aaron Dunsmore pgptntc5E2cuE.pgp Description: PGP signature
[kreutz@inf.ufsm.br: Just one question.]
- Forwarded message from Diego Luis Kreutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Diego Luis Kreutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Just one question. Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 16:46:22 -0300 (BRT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm trying to install xlibs-4.0.3-4_i386.deb but the instalation process say that it conflicts whit xlib6g smaller than 4.0. But I couldn't find any version of xlib6g over 3.3.6. I don't now what I can do for this. And the problem is that I've a lot of programs depending on xlib6g and others amount that a needed to install that depend on xlibs. If you could give me any idea about this I'll be thankfull. Congratulations. DLK -- - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson| Debian GNU/Linux | Exercise your freedom of religion. Set [EMAIL PROTECTED] | fire to a church of your choice. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | pgpAuGjYDScZk.pgp Description: PGP signature
startx in xbase-clients 4.0.[23]
On Sat, Jul 14, 2001 at 04:36:34AM -0400, Warren Turkal wrote: Why does a construct like startx -- :1 not work anymore (ever since like 4.0.2 or something)? Warren It's a bug, and it's fixed in the 4.1.0 prerelease packages at the URL in my .sig (and therefore will be in 4.1.0-1). For your convenience, I have attached a fixed /usr/X11R6/bin/startx. Replace your existing version with it, and keep a copy in a safe place as any changes to the xbase-clients package will remove this version of the file. In the future, please address questions like these to the debian-user mailing list. -- G. Branden Robinson| Debian GNU/Linux | Bother, said Pooh, as he was [EMAIL PROTECTED] | assimilated by the Borg. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | #!/bin/sh # $Xorg: startx.cpp,v 1.3 2000/08/17 19:54:29 cpqbld Exp $ # # This is just a sample implementation of a slightly less primitive # interface than xinit. It looks for user .xinitrc and .xserverrc # files, then system xinitrc and xserverrc files, else lets xinit choose # its default. The system xinitrc should probably do things like check # for .Xresources files and merge them in, startup up a window manager, # and pop a clock and serveral xterms. # # Site administrators are STRONGLY urged to write nicer versions. # # $XFree86: xc/programs/xinit/startx.cpp,v 3.7 2001/04/19 15:08:32 dawes Exp $ userclientrc=$HOME/.xinitrc userserverrc=$HOME/.xserverrc sysclientrc=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc sysserverrc=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc defaultclient=/usr/X11R6/bin/xterm defaultserver=/usr/X11R6/bin/X defaultclientargs= defaultserverargs= clientargs= serverargs= if [ -f $userclientrc ]; then defaultclientargs=$userclientrc elif [ -f $sysclientrc ]; then defaultclientargs=$sysclientrc fi if [ -f $userserverrc ]; then defaultserverargs=$userserverrc elif [ -f $sysserverrc ]; then defaultserverargs=$sysserverrc fi whoseargs=client while [ x$1 != x ]; do case $1 in # extraneous null string required to keep cpp from treating /* as a C comment /''*|\.*) if [ $whoseargs = client -a x$clientargs = x ]; then client=$1 elif [ x$serverargs = x ]; then server=$1 fi ;; --) whoseargs=server ;; *) if [ $whoseargs = client ]; then clientargs=$clientargs $1 else # display must be the FIRST server argument if [ x$serverargs = x ] expr $1 : '^:[0-9]\+$' /dev/null 21; then display=$1 else serverargs=$serverargs $1 fi fi ;; esac shift done # process client arguments if [ x$client = x ]; then # if no client arguments either, use rc file instead if [ x$clientargs = x ]; then if [ -f $userclientrc ]; then client=$userclientrc elif [ -f $sysclientrc ]; then client=$sysclientrc fi else client=$defaultclient fi fi # process server arguments if [ x$server = x ]; then # if no server arguments or display either, use rc file instead if [ x$serverargs = x -a x$display = x ]; then if [ -f $userserverrc ]; then server=$userserverrc elif [ -f $sysserverrc ]; then server=$sysserverrc fi else server=$defaultserver fi fi if [ x$XAUTHORITY = x ]; then export XAUTHORITY=$HOME/.Xauthority fi removelist= # set up default Xauth info for this machine authdisplay=${display:-:0} mcookie=`mcookie` for displayname in $authdisplay `hostname -f`$authdisplay; do if ! xauth list $displayname | grep $displayname /dev/null 21; then xauth add $displayname . $mcookie removelist=$displayname $removelist fi done xinit $client $clientargs -- $server $display $serverargs if [ x$removelist != x ]; then xauth remove $removelist fi if command -v deallocvt /dev/null 21; then deallocvt fi pgpQqonVseNJF.pgp Description: PGP signature
[acidburn@efni.com: xbase-client 4.0.3-4 bug.]
Would someone teach this person how to query the BTS? - Forwarded message from Paul Stanisci [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Paul Stanisci [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: xbase-client 4.0.3-4 bug. Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 19:58:25 -0400 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Branden. I know on the site you wanted all bugs to goto the XFree86 team, but this is a little different. I recently installed XFree86 4.0.3 from your .deb distributions and the X server works fine. I can even run multiple X servers (ex: X :1). However startx will NOT run multiple X servers. if I type: startx -- :1(When i'm trying to start up a secon X server) it complains about not being able to open display 0 because it's already open. However, I can start the X server using other means, such as (X :1). If you have any sugestions or if this has been reported already plz let me know. thanx ~Paul Stanisci - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson| You should try building some of the Debian GNU/Linux | stuff in main that is modern...turning [EMAIL PROTECTED] | on -Wall is like turning on the pain. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | -- James Troup pgpTtXEQkW2tg.pgp Description: PGP signature
[bgjestva@uncultured.org: xfonts-base]
- Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: xfonts-base Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 12:23:05 -0700 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm having trouble with X on woody/testing: Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' I can't even run xf86cfg. xfonts-base looks like it was modified yesterday. --Bill P.S. Thanks for all your work on X for Debian. I know you've been at it for a while. - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson| You can have my PGP passphrase when you Debian GNU/Linux | pry it from my cold, dead brain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Adam Thornton http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | pgpNUW90EMWdY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: xfree86-sis -- needs patching?
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 01:50:36PM +0100, Rev Simon Rumble wrote: I have a laptop which doesn't work with the SiS X server included in Debian. It does, however, work when I compile and install the patched version from the SiS web site. (http://www.sis.com.tw) The xserver-sis package is quite obsolete. If you're using Debian 2.2, I suggest using xserver-svga; if you're using Debian's testing or unstable releases, I suggest xserver-xfree86. -- G. Branden Robinson|I came, I saw, she conquered. The Debian GNU/Linux |original Latin seems to have been [EMAIL PROTECTED] |garbled. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |-- Robert Heinlein pgp1vh5uqHwWQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
[palic@billgotchy.de: What's wrong?]
- Forwarded message from Jan-Hendrik Palic [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Jan-Hendrik Palic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: What's wrong? Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:02:57 +0200 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Branden... sorry, I don't know whether write a bugreport or mail to debian-devel.. so I think, it is a good way to mail you my problem... I want to to build the new xfree41-packages on my sid box. After installing the missing deb's I got these. I paste he whole screen, sorry :) cut dpkg-buildpackage: source maintainer is Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] dpkg-buildpackage: build architecture is i386 dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libpam0g-dev | libpam-dev, libfreetype6-dev, libglide2-dev, libglide3-dev dpkg-buildpackage: Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied; aborting. dpkg-buildpackage: (Use -d flag to override.) debuild: fatal error at line 322: dpkg-buildpackage failed! gromitt:/mnt/freespace/xfree86-4.1.0# apt-get install libpam0g-dev libfreetype6-dev libglide2-dev libglide3-dev Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: libglide2 libglide3 The following NEW packages will be installed: libfreetype6-dev libglide2 libglide2-dev libglide3 libglide3-dev libpam0g-dev 0 packages upgraded, 6 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. Need to get 1306kB of archives. After unpacking 4973kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y cut Unpacking libfreetype6-dev (from .../libfreetype6-dev_2.0.2.20010514-1_i386.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package libglide2. Unpacking libglide2 (from .../libglide2_2001.01.26-1_i386.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package libglide2-dev. Unpacking libglide2-dev (from .../libglide2-dev_2001.01.26-1_i386.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package libglide3. Unpacking libglide3 (from .../libglide3_2001.01.26-1_i386.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package libglide3-dev. Unpacking libglide3-dev (from .../libglide3-dev_2001.01.26-1_i386.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package libpam0g-dev. Unpacking libpam0g-dev (from .../libpam0g-dev_0.72-25_i386.deb) ... Setting up libfreetype6-dev (2.0.2.20010514-1) ... Setting up libglide2 (2001.01.26-1) ... Setting up libglide2-dev (2001.01.26-1) ... Setting up libglide3 (2001.01.26-1) ... Setting up libglide3-dev (2001.01.26-1) ... Setting up libpam0g-dev (0.72-25) ... gromitt:/mnt/freespace/xfree86-4.1.0# debuild dpkg-buildpackage: source package is xfree86 dpkg-buildpackage: source version is 4.1.0-0pre1v1 dpkg-buildpackage: source maintainer is Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] dpkg-buildpackage: build architecture is i386 dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libglide2-dev, libglide3-dev dpkg-buildpackage: Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied; aborting. dpkg-buildpackage: (Use -d flag to override.) debuild: fatal error at line 322: dpkg-buildpackage failed! Sorry about the long lines Hmmm... something goes wrong, I don't know why. Thanks for your help! Jan-Hendrik Palic (Gromitt) -- One time, you all will be emulated by linux! Jan- Hendrik Palic Url:http://www.billgotchy.de; E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson | You don't just decide to break Kubrick's Debian GNU/Linux| code of silence and then get drawn away [EMAIL PROTECTED] | from it to a discussion about cough http://www.debian.org/~branden/ | medicine. pgpk79D81AP89.pgp Description: PGP signature
[shan.mignot@paris.ensmp.fr: installing XFree86 4.0.3]
- Forwarded message from Shan Mignot [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Shan Mignot [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: installing XFree86 4.0.3 Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 09:48:48 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I've tried installing the xlibs-4.0.3-3.deb and associated packages yesterday and I've got three related questions: * How can I have dselect install them without complaining about conflicts xlib6g and suggesting to remove all the software that depends on it (virtually everything on my machine as you can guess) ? Do I need to update to a version of the debian utilities which handles these things better ? * my video card is a VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage LT Pro AGP-133 (rev dc) according to lspci and I am not sure the corresponding driver was part of the XFree86 distributions lately. Does the xlibs-4.0.3-3.deb support it ? * The XFree86 distribution indicates a number of precautions to take when changing version (among which there is the fact that it is highly preferable to avoid having a running X server when doing it). Are there any similar precautions I should take when installing xlibs-4.0.3-3.deb ? Thanks a lot, you guys are doing a great job ! Shan - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson | Debian GNU/Linux| The software said it required Windows [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 3.1 or better, so I installed Linux. http://www.debian.org/~branden/ | pgpTFvNxf4RnA.pgp Description: PGP signature
[mrz.pct@home.com: XF86 4.x?]
- Forwarded message from MRZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: MRZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: XF86 4.x? Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 14:34:59 -0700 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi. I understand you're the maintainer of the XFree86 packages on Debian? I just wanted to ask you what the planned schedule (is there one ?) is for X 4.x to become available via apt-get. Before you ask, yes I am aware that there are pre-official debs currently available but I've had no luck getting them installed without losing my system. If it would make things easier and hopefully faster - I am willing to help in whatever way I can. Fair warning though, I'm not yet expert with *nix, hence my asking for this pre-packaged in deb format.. Regards, Marc. - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson |I suspect Linus wrote that in a Debian GNU/Linux|complicated way only to be able to have [EMAIL PROTECTED] |that comment in there. http://www.debian.org/~branden/ |-- Lars Wirzenius pgpZaNzzlcvjp.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Kris.VanHeurck@siemens.atea.be: i810 chipset on potato]
Can someone help this guy out, please? - Forwarded message from Van Heurck Kris [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Van Heurck Kris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: i810 chipset on potato Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 15:00:39 +0200 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear X Strike Force, I am currently installing Debian GNU/Linux potato on a machine in our labs. I found out (by opening the case, since I had no documentation on the machine) that there is a i810 chipset inside. I found the debian-page on this matter (XFree86 with i810 chipset) but had no succes so far on inserting the module which I succesfully compiled from i810-agpgart-module.tar.gz into my kernel which is kernel-image-2.2.18pre21 (and I also compiled succesfully myself). It reports unresolved symbols. Should I upgrade my xserver to woody or sid, since you say on your webpage: [23 Dec 2000] This has been removed since the official Linux kernel and XFree86 4.x are now in sync with each other.. what does this mean ?? Can you help me out by getting my xserver running ? thanks, Kris Kris Van Heurck Software Engineer Network Solutions - Communication Services Siemens IC D NC C current project: Mobile applications level 1 tel. +32 (0)14/25 3966 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Private: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Linux... every EE should consider it - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson | You don't just decide to break Kubrick's Debian GNU/Linux| code of silence and then get drawn away [EMAIL PROTECTED] | from it to a discussion about cough http://www.debian.org/~branden/ | medicine.
[bmw2288@yahoo.com: installing xfree86]
Can someone help this person? - Forwarded message from ubto [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: ubto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: installing xfree86 Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 21:41:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am new to Debian and am having problems getting dselect to install from floppy. All the files I downloaded have a .DEB file extension. Dselect keeps saying that these are not Packages. What am I doing wrong? Thanks for your help Wayne Mains __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson | Debian GNU/Linux| If God had intended for man to go about [EMAIL PROTECTED] | naked, we would have been born that way. http://www.debian.org/~branden/ | pgplP5IomNhwb.pgp Description: PGP signature
[joris@linux.be: X4 + 2.4 causes system freezes?]
- Forwarded message from Joris [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Joris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: X4 + 2.4 causes system freezes? Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 08:10:13 +0200 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I know you're probately not the right person to email this to, but I have no idea where else I can report this, or get it solved... Since I switched to linux 2.4.x and Xfree 4.0.x, I experience complete system lockups (no network or serial responses either). There seems to be no specific cause for it, it meight happen 3 minutes after startx, or 3 days. The only way to get out of it, is a hard reset, wich obviously isn't really gentle. I'm currently in a second process of stress testing the hardware, but after already 36hours of cpuburn and burnMMX there is not a single sign of instability. I do have the weird subjective impression the freezes are happening more frequently lately (system usage hasn't really changed, fyi)... I'm currently running debian unstable on linux 2.4.4 with no ac patches, and the latest xfree avaiable in debian unstable, altough I experienced it also with the previous versions of both kernel and Xfree. Hardware includes a p5 200mmx, 192Mb ram and a pci voodoo banshee vga card. I know at least one system (owned by a friend) also experiencing this I'm kinda desperate in finding a solution, because this really reduces the usability of my system to almost zero :( Much respect and greetings, -- Greetings Joris [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 25569167 PGP is currently out-of-use - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson |A committee is a life form with six or Debian GNU/Linux|more legs and no brain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-- Robert Heinlein http://www.debian.org/~branden/ | pgp6nWfR3sTph.pgp Description: PGP signature
[tnetter@ini.unizh.ch: xmesa.h etc?]
- Forwarded message from Thomas Netter [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Thomas Netter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: xmesa.h etc? Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:31:27 +0200 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Branden, I'm worried this might be a FAQ but I searched and searched... In which Debian package are the includes xmesa.h and xmesa_x.h ? Many thanks for all your work, -Thomas - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson | Debian GNU/Linux|It tastes good. [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-- Bill Clinton http://www.debian.org/~branden/ | pgpn0bXLNCoSH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Progeny Debian 1.0 released
Media Contact: Aaron Stenhoff Progeny Linux Systems, Inc. (317) 833-0313 (ext. 137) [EMAIL PROTECTED] PROGENY LINUX SYSTEMS ROLLS OUT PROGENY DEBIAN Enhanced Version of Debian Available for Download INDIANAPOLIS, Indiana - April 9, 2001 - Progeny Linux Systems, Inc. announces the release of the first edition of Progeny Debian. The download edition is available now at www.progeny.com/download. The boxed set will be available on April 23rd. Progeny Debian was developed in cooperation with Debian GNU/Linux, founded by Ian Murdock, President and CEO of Progeny Linux Systems. The company includes a number of leading Debian developers who are led by CTO John H. Hartman, a prominent expert in operating systems. Progeny Debian provides an enhanced feature set that includes easy graphical installation, hardware detection support, and improved configuration and management tools. Other additions include improved USB support and an auto-install feature for streamlining multiple installations. Most of Progeny's enhancements have already been contributed back to the Debian development tree, and the remainder will be as time permits. All of the software in Progeny Debian is licensed under terms compatible with the Debian Free Software Guidelines[1], including all changes, updates, and new packages Progeny has created. The boxed set will offer a 90-day subscription to the Progeny Service Network and 30 days of telephone installation support. Progeny Service Network provides timely, secured software updates seamlessly to corporate customers. The service includes free e-mail assistance and various support levels depending on the customers' needs. In addition to providing Progeny Debian, the archive.progeny.com site hosts a full mirror of the Debian package archives. We welcome downloads of Debian and Progeny Debian alike. Progeny Linux Systems would like to extend its thanks to the Debian user and development community; their contributions and hard work over the past several years have made Debian GNU/Linux an outstanding foundation upon which to base a commercial product. Progeny looks forward to continued collaboration with the Free Software community and the Debian Project. [1] Netscape Communicator 4.76 is the only exception to this rule; it is included due to its continuing popularity and inertia, with freely-licensed graphical web browsers (such as Mozilla and Konqueror, both available with Progeny Debian) only recently able to compete favorably in terms of stability and feature set. -- Branden Robinson | GPG signed/encrypted mail welcome [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 1024D/9C0BCBFB Senior Software Developer | D5F6 D4C9 E25B 3D37 068C Progeny Linux Systems | 72E8 0F42 191A 9C0B CBFB
Re: Progeny Debian 1.0 released
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 05:53:14PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Branden Robinson wrote: Media Contact: Aaron Stenhoff Progeny Linux Systems, Inc. (317) 833-0313 (ext. 137) [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, do we get $1k for posting an advertisement now? Just out of curiousity, has the $1000 that Progeny donated to Debian been deposited yet? Progeny is freely available for download. This is noted in the announcement. Does that constitute spam? Progeny has a full Debian mirror with a significant amount of bandwidth that may be useful to North American users. This is noted in the announcement. Does that constitute spam? When I announce experimental .debs of XFree86, does that constitute spam? Since this message is mentioning all of the above, does it constitute spam? In addition to providing Progeny Debian, the archive.progeny.com site hosts a full mirror of the Debian package archives. We welcome downloads of Debian and Progeny Debian alike. If you think the announcement is nothing but spam/crap/BS, send Progeny a bill. If you don't ever want announcements from Progeny on any subject posted to any Debian mailing list ever again, speak up now. -- G. Branden Robinson | A celibate clergy is an especially good Debian GNU/Linux| idea, because it tends to suppress any [EMAIL PROTECTED] | hereditary propensity toward fanaticism. http://www.debian.org/~branden/ | -- Carl Sagan pgpNI660cGaST.pgp Description: PGP signature
[olly@lfix.co.uk: Question re DGA extension]
- Forwarded message from Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk - From: Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Question re DGA extension Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 12:00:24 +0100 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hallo, I'm running xserver-xfree86 4.0.2-13 on a Matrox Millenium card I'm trying to discover how to enable DGA (of whose lack Vmware is complaining), but I haven't yet found much that is relevant on the web and nothing at all in any Debian documentation, except the dga program in xbase-clients. I see that Connectiva have an rpm for Matrox cards for 4.0.1. Is this likely to help? (but if so, why isn't there a Debian version?) or do I need do something in XF86Config-4? -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP: 1024R/32B8FAA1: 97 EA 1D 47 72 3F 28 47 6B 7E 39 CC 56 E4 C1 47 GPG: 1024D/3E1D0C1C: CA12 09E0 E8D5 8870 5839 932A 614D 4C34 3E1D 0C1C Thou will keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee, because he trusts in thee. Isaiah 26:3 - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson | One man's magic is another man's Debian GNU/Linux| engineering. Supernatural is a [EMAIL PROTECTED] | null word. http://www.debian.org/~branden/ | -- Robert Heinlein pgpy4FwLK4Enl.pgp Description: PGP signature
[yoush@cs.msu.su: A question about Debain xdm package]
- Forwarded message from Nikita V. Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Nikita V.Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: A question about Debain xdm package Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 16:19:51 +0400 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, Branden Many people in comp.windows.x.kde newsgroup report that when they start terminal windows under their KDE sessions, they find that the variables that are exported in their /etc/profile and ~/.bash_profile, are not set. The problem is that when user logins with xdm (or some xdm replacement), no login shell is run. Seems to be a bug. Several distributoins are affected, including Debian. It could be fixed by changing the first line in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession from #!/bin/sh to #!/bin/bash --login Maybe this fix shoul go to the xdm package ? - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson |You can have my PGP passphrase when you Debian GNU/Linux|pry it from my cold, dead brain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-- Adam Thornton http://www.debian.org/~branden/ | pgpSXJKuXmQD9.pgp Description: PGP signature
[alex.bongers@phil.uu.nl: abiword does not find fonts]
- Forwarded message from Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: abiword does not find fonts Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:08:37 +0100 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi branden, i seem to have thesame problem, have you had any luck correcting this problem yet? i use redhat7 thanx, cheers, alex. - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson |Convictions are more dangerous enemies Debian GNU/Linux|of truth than lies. [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-- Friedrich Nietzsche http://www.debian.org/~branden/ | pgpCpRrtn5zkC.pgp Description: PGP signature
[amshey@thecia.net: X4 Feedback]
Can someone help this person please? - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: X4 Feedback Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:23:10 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hullo there, Many thanks for being crazy enough to maintain the X debs. I recently 'upgraded' to testing + X4, and had the following problems: On build in archives on 3/5/2001: No XF86Config-4 file created (even though I was asked questions by X4 that were like xf86config) xf86config ran and created XF86Config-4, but this file claimed to be unable to get video modes. Changing driver in XF86Config-4 to 'nv' (I have Creative 3DBlaster with Nvidia chipset) made X work when called as XF86Config. Neither xdm nor startx succeed; they wait forever for Xserver to start accepting connections. .xsession files seem not to be executed, probably because I am calling X directly. I hope this is not useless information, but I also cannot find anywhere on your X Strike Force website a mention of how severe of a problem should be reported to you, or where it should be reported, or what forum to watch for more information.. I think that a short list of 'known problems' and 'when/where to talk/listen'would get you more useful information from testers. Happy Hacking! --Chris - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson | Men use thought only to justify their Debian GNU/Linux| wrong doings, and speech only to conceal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | their thoughts. http://www.debian.org/~branden/ | -- Voltaire pgprSwEVVqGEP.pgp Description: PGP signature
[ze_mil@club-internet.fr: X error]
Would someone help this user for me? - Forwarded message from Laurent Dubois [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Laurent Dubois [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: X error Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I'm a french Debian user and I've just reinstall my system (kernel 2.4.1). But after installing Xfree86 4.0.2, I got a problem when I tried to launch it : X : cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), abording. I don't know what is the problem so I ask you if you can help me. Thank you, Laurent - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson | If you make people think they're Debian GNU/Linux| thinking, they'll love you; [EMAIL PROTECTED] | but if you really make them think, http://www.debian.org/~branden/ | they'll hate you. pgpZf7damBozO.pgp Description: PGP signature
[tallison@phoenixdsl.com: XFree4.0.2 upgrade problem]
, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 XInput Driver ABI class: XFree86 XInput driver, version 0.1 (II) APM: driver for the Alliance chipsets: AP6422, AT24, AT3D (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0 (EE) No devices detected. Fatal server error: no screens found When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send the full server output, not just the last messages. This can be found in the log file /var/log/XFree86.0.log. Please report problems to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson |The first thing the communists do when Debian GNU/Linux|they take over a country is to outlaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] |cockfighting. http://www.debian.org/~branden/ |-- Oklahoma State Senator John Monks pgpgU1sWvM5YK.pgp Description: PGP signature
[sgaerner@gmx.net: ]
- Forwarded message from Sven Gaerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Sven Gaerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Branden, I tried to install XFree86 Version 4.0.2 on a Potato system. Unfortunately apt/dselect does not upgrade xbase-client, so I'm not able to run X. When I run 'apt-get update' the status line begins with an 'Ign'. There seems to be a problem because this package is not upgraded. Do you have an idea how to solve this? Here are my /etc/apt/sources.list lines deb http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/ xf402_potato/i386/ deb http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/ xf402_potato/all/ I copied these lines from your email to the X mailing list. Thanks in advance. Bye, Sven -- +-+ | Please reply only to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Other email addresses may no longer be valid... | | | | Do not send HTML mails, they may not be read... | +-+ - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson | When I die I want to go peacefully in Debian GNU/Linux| my sleep like my ol' Grand Dad...not [EMAIL PROTECTED] | screaming in terror like his passengers. http://www.debian.org/~branden/ | pgpx0tbbpFojI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [thrawn01@mindspring.com: Bug ?]
On Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 08:28:09PM -0500, admiral thrawn wrote: I guess this means the Maintainer couldn't help me .. It means I am not a user support list, so I forwarded your mail to one. You might not think so but. I have a funny feeling you will be receaving a patch from me soon. If it's a good patch, I'll accept it. If not, I won't. Then agian might be wrong... Please excuse my ramblings. I'm pissed right now. I am one person. Many people read debian-user, and many of them would be happy to help you. Odds are you'll get a faster, better answer from there. -- G. Branden Robinson | If a man ate a pound of pasta and a Debian GNU/Linux| pound of antipasto, would they cancel [EMAIL PROTECTED] | out, leaving him still hungry? http://www.debian.org/~branden/ | -- Scott Adams pgpDtzRjpq3bM.pgp Description: PGP signature
[thrawn01@mindspring.com: Bug ?]
- Forwarded message from admiral thrawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: admiral thrawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Bug ? Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ apt-get upgrade ( installed xserver-common 4.0.2-4 ) $ startx Unable to stat ( /etc/X11/X ) File not found aborting. I ran xinit, and /usr/X11R6/bin/X both with the same error. there is no. /etc/X11/bin/X the only X I have is in /usr/X11R6/bin/X I could run /usr//X11R6/bin/SVGA_{SERVER} ( what ever it's called, I'm in windows right now. cause I dunno have time to set up pine and sendmail.. And I don't wan't to stay in windows for long... GRIN ) of couse it had no Xterm. so i could n't get anything running. Somthing is wrong with the wrappers ( I beleave that is the correct term. ) startx,xinit all seam to eventually call /usr/X11R6/bin/X and that is part of your package. I tried downgrading to Xserver-common 3. somthin. but I have to uninstall have the packages on my system to do it. Anypointers ? is this a config bug ? or somthing missing.? Thanks for any Help. I'll keep looking , notify you if i find anything. - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson |Q: How does a Unix guru have sex? Debian GNU/Linux|A: unzip;strip;touch;finger;mount;fsck; [EMAIL PROTECTED] | more;yes;fsck;fsck;fsck;umount;sleep http://www.debian.org/~branden/ | pgpSziYppPDVt.pgp Description: PGP signature
[jimg@cray.com: X can't find font 'fixed' and I'm going nuts!]
- Forwarded message from Jim Gale [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Jim Gale [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: X can't find font 'fixed' and I'm going nuts! Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm getting a weird message from X when I try to start it: Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' I get this error with both XF4 and Xf3. It first appeared with 4.0.2-4 (but it could be unrelated to the version) and now I'm at 4.0.2-7. The people on #debian seemed to be familiar with this as being a symptom of an incorrectly installed xfonts-base. I tried several times to uninstall xfonts*, xserver*, xfree* and reinstall them. It didn't help. I removed all packages related to X and deleted the remaining /etc/X11 and /usr/X11R6 cruft and then re-installed everything. Didn't help. (yeah, I was desperate.) I've checked and monkeyed endlessly with /etc/X11/XF86Config* to try and get it to work. Same thing every time. My package database is up-to-date and doesn't have any problems that I can see. So in desperation I am emailing you hoping that you might have an idea about what might be wrong or where I could turn to for help. I'm including the /var/log/XFree86.0.log in case you think it might be useful. Thanks for any help you can provide and also for providing me with a (mostly) excellent operating system, Jim - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson | Men use thought only to justify their Debian GNU/Linux| wrong doings, and speech only to conceal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | their thoughts. http://www.debian.org/~branden/ | -- Voltaire pgp8oXdORETUe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [jimg@cray.com: X can't find font 'fixed' and I'm going nuts!]
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 10:39:01PM -0700, Jimmy Richards wrote: Hello There Branden, Try installing 'xfs'. Hurry, hurry... get your xfs now while they're hot! hehe All joking aside hope that helps. Here's what I got installed xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi (although i'm just using the 100dpi) xfonts-base xfonts-scalable xfs Er, thanks for the help, but I think you might have missed the fact that I forwarded the message from another person. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the person to whom you should reply. It was mailed to me directly, since some people seem to think they will get help faster and better if they mail a package maintainer privately. BTW, with the default X configurations generated by dexconf in unstable, installing the X font server should not be necessary. But I suspect the person who mailed me was not using a dexconf-generated file, but possibly some hand-rolled one, with problems. -- G. Branden Robinson | Human beings rarely imagine a god that Debian GNU/Linux| behaves any better than a spoiled child. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Robert Heinlein http://www.debian.org/~branden/ | pgp615jNxRQui.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: XFree Packages
Klaus, please direct your questions to debian-user. On Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 03:27:07PM +0100, Klaus Naumann wrote: Ugh, I was that close :/ dh_shlibdeps -Nxlibs --exclude=usr/X11R6/lib/modules dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: could not find path for libXaw.so.7 dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: could not find path for libXaw.so.7 dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: could not find path for libXaw.so.7 BUG IN DYNAMIC LINKER ld.so: dl-version.c: 217: _dl_check_map_versions: Assertion `needed != ((void *)0)' failed! dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: ldd on `debian/xbase-clients/usr/X11R6/bin/glxinfo' gave error exit status 1 dh_shlibdeps: command returned error code make: *** [debian/stampdir/binary-arch] Error 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/X4/xfree86-4.0.2# ldd debian/xbase-clients/usr/X11R6/bin/glxinfo BUG IN DYNAMIC LINKER ld.so: dl-version.c: 217: _dl_check_map_versions: Assertion `needed != ((void *)0)' failed! Is there any work around for that ? Do I need to build the package again now (it took over 5 hours even on that machine ...) ?? CU, Klaus -- Full Name : Klaus Naumann | (http://www.mgnet.de/) (Germany) Nickname: Spock | Org.: Mad Guys Network Phone / FAX : ++49/177/7862964 | E-Mail: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key : www.mgnet.de/keys/key_spock.txt -- G. Branden Robinson|Any man who does not realize that he is Debian GNU/Linux |half an animal is only half a man. [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-- Thornton Wilder http://deadbeast.net/~branden/ | pgpIQkH8WieSr.pgp Description: PGP signature
[hugovdm@mail.com: Re: XF86Setup: how are the Modelines generated?]
I forwarded the initial question to debian-user, I might as well send this as well. - Forwarded message from Hugo van der Merwe [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Hugo van der Merwe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: XF86Setup: how are the Modelines generated? Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 17:07:48 +0200 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from hugo on Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 12:37:48PM +0200 Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 12:37:48PM +0200, hugo wrote: XF86Setup generates invalid modelines on my machine. They all (all resolutions up to 1024x768) have dotclocks of 65.15, which is only valid for 1024x768. The test performed just before saving the config file, works perfectly - why does the config file not match this test? To sort-of answer my own question: I think this is related to the fact that I have a laptop, and the way an LCD screen works. I'm trying to find out more about it now. (It would help to know how XF86Setup gets its modelines - I think xvidtune does the same, it also gets invalid mode lines...) Maybe laptops do not use hsync or vsync at all - and the lct always expects 65.15 dotclock, and the card always gives this - the only problem is that the modes appear invalid because of hsync or vsync settings? I am speculating, and have too little knowledge on the matter to know whether I am uttering rubbish. I'll continue my quest for better laptop support on the debian-laptop mailing list. Thanks, Hugo van der Merwe - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson| I am sorry, but what you have mistaken Debian GNU/Linux | for malicious intent is nothing more [EMAIL PROTECTED] | than sheer incompetence! http://deadbeast.net/~branden/ | -- J. L. Rizzo II pgpOpgaXozfEy.pgp Description: PGP signature
[hugovdm@mail.com: XF86Setup: how are the Modelines generated?]
Would someone like to help this gentleman, or instruct him on bug-filing procedures? - Forwarded message from Hugo van der Merwe [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Hugo van der Merwe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: XF86Setup: how are the Modelines generated? Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:37:48 +0200 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Hello, XF86Setup generates invalid modelines on my machine. They all (all resolutions up to 1024x768) have dotclocks of 65.15, which is only valid for 1024x768. The test performed just before saving the config file, works perfectly - why does the config file not match this test? Thanks, Hugo van der Merwe - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson| One man's magic is another man's Debian GNU/Linux | engineering. Supernatural is a [EMAIL PROTECTED] | null word. http://deadbeast.net/~branden/ | -- Robert Heinlein pgpmcP51D5vlE.pgp Description: PGP signature
[krs@hsv.tybrin.com: Deb 2.2 - startx works, xdm and gdm don't]
Can someone help this person, please? - Forwarded message from Karl Sackett [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Karl Sackett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Deb 2.2 - startx works, xdm and gdm don't Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 14:38:59 -0500 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i I've installed Debian 2.2 on a workstation and I'm having problems getting X to work properly. I've gone through the docs, config files, and the Debian mailing list archives, but I can't find anything that points out what my problem is. When I start the X server with startx everything works fine. When I try logging in through xdm the session fails and the following messages appear in .xsession-errors: Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server xrdb: Can't open display ':0' Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server xmodmap: unable to open display ':0' Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server /usr/bin/X11/WindowMaker fatal error: could not open display :0 I get similar messages when I use gdm instead of xdm. These are all clean installations -- the only file I've modified is XF86config and everything else works fine X-wise if I use startx. Do you have any ideas about where my problem is? I'll appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks. -- Karl Sackett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tybrin Corporation - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson|It's not a matter of alienating authors. Debian GNU/Linux |They have every right to license their [EMAIL PROTECTED] |software however we like. http://deadbeast.net/~branden/ |-- Craig Sanders, in debian-devel pgpUH1iFezMhP.pgp Description: PGP signature
[ykarant@csci.csusb.edu: xdm potato wm no go]
Can someone help this person, please? - Forwarded message from Dr. Yasha Karant [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Dr. Yasha Karant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: xdm potato wm no go Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 12:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mr. Robinson (Branden?), I am sending you this email based on the email headers from bug report 66422 as the xdm maintainer for Debian. I have just upgraded to potato (2.2) and a new (binary image distribution) kernel (2.2.17). xdm *REFUSES* to exec my wm (fvwm which was formerly known as fvwm2). When I login via a regular scrolling terminal screen (e.g., screen on F5), and issue a startx command (the is background mode in tcsh), everything works. (That is, everything works after I login as root and issue a /etc/init.d/xdm stop command so that startx can grab the normal :0 screen on F7). I have a .xsession file in my $HOME and also in /root just in case xdm wants to default there. I have done a strings on xdm (binary) to find what it is using, but to no avail. Any assistance as to how to configure xdm so that it works would be appreciated. One note: when I installed potato (upgrade from slink), I did permit the xbanner; is this the cautionary no warranty Debian message that appears via startx but not via xdm? The script file from the upgrade that seems relevant to X appears below for your information. Thanks for *ANY* assistance; this was working fine under slink and kernel 2.0.36 . Yasha Karant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Setting up xbanner (1.31-16) ... Xbanner configuration - A popular use of xbanner is to make it run when xdm is run, to beautify the xdm login screen. I can modify some files to make this work, if you want. Should I modify xdm files to make xbanner be launched on xdm startup? [Y/n] Xdm files modified to run xbanner. Setting up xbase-clients (3.3.6-10) ... Installing new version of config file /etc/X11/Xmodmap ... Setting up xfonts-100dpi (3.3.6-2) ... Running mkfontdir in 100dpi font directory...done. Running update-fonts-alias in 100dpi font directory...done. Setting up xfonts-75dpi (3.3.6-2) ... Running mkfontdir in 75dpi font directory...done. Running update-fonts-alias in 75dpi font directory...done. Setting up xfonts-base (3.3.6-2) ... Running mkfontdir in misc font directory...done. Running update-fonts-alias in misc font directory...done. Setting up xfonts-scalable (3.3.6-2) ... Running update-fonts-scale in Speedo font directory...done. Running mkfontdir in Speedo font directory...done. Running update-fonts-scale in Type1 font directory...done. Running mkfontdir in Type1 font directory...done. Setting up xbmbrowser (5.1-6) ... Setting up xcal (4.1-8) ... Setting up xcolorsel (1.1a-8) ... Setting up xcontrib (3.3.3.1-0.1) ... Setting up xdaliclock (2.18-4) ... Setting up xdm (3.3.6-10) ... Installing new version of config file /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess ... Installing new version of config file /etc/X11/xdm/Xreset_0 ... Installing new version of config file /etc/X11/xdm/Xresources ... Installing new version of config file /etc/X11/xdm/Xresources_0 ... Configuration file `/etc/X11/xdm/Xservers' == File on system created by you or by a script. == File also in package provided by package maintainer. What would you like to do about it ? Your options are: Y or I : install the package maintainer's version N or O : keep your currently-installed version D : show the differences between the versions Z : background this process to examine the situation The default action is to keep your current version. *** Xservers (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ? Configuration file `/etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0' == File on system created by you or by a script. == File also in package provided by package maintainer. What would you like to do about it ? Your options are: Y or I : install the package maintainer's version N or O : keep your currently-installed version D : show the differences between the versions Z : background this process to examine the situation The default action is to keep your current version. *** Xsetup_0 (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ? Configuration file `/etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup' == File on system created by you or by a script. == File also in package provided by package maintainer. What would you like to do about it ? Your options are: Y or I : install the package maintainer's version N or O : keep your currently-installed version D : show the differences between the versions Z : background this process to examine the situation The default action is to keep your current version. *** Xstartup (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ? Installing new version of config file /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config ... Installing new version of config file /etc/X11/xdm/xdm.options ... Installing new version of config
IMPORNTANT FIX: Having weird X problems? Wheel mouse or xterm keys not working right?
Okay, okay, half a dozen bug reports about this is enough. The reading in of X resource files got broken in 3.3.6-7. Sorry. And I offer an apology to Lars Wirzenius. Yes, sometimes the damnedest things DO happen... :) Please stop filing bugs about this. I know about the problem and the fix is in place for -8. For those of you who can't wait, here it is. (Also MIME-attached.) --- /etc/X11/Xsession.broken Mon May 29 23:54:52 2000 +++ /etc/X11/Xsession Wed May 31 01:21:01 2000 @@ -78,11 +78,13 @@ esac if [ -d $sysresources ]; then - if [ $(echo $sysresources/*) != $sysresources/* ]; then -for resourcefile in $(echo $sysresources/* 2 /dev/null | egrep '^[-/_[:alnum:]]*$'); do - xrdb -merge $resourcefile -done - fi + for resourcefile in $sysresources/*; do +if [ -f $resourcefile ]; then + if expr $resourcefile : '.*/[:alnum:_-]*' /dev/null 21; then +xrdb -merge $resourcefile + fi +fi + done fi if [ -x /usr/bin/X11/xmodmap ]; then -- G. Branden Robinson| Debian GNU/Linux | Music is the brandy of the damned. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- George Bernard Shaw roger.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | --- /etc/X11/Xsession Mon May 29 23:54:52 2000 +++ xfree86-common/Xsession Wed May 31 01:21:01 2000 @@ -78,11 +78,13 @@ esac if [ -d $sysresources ]; then - if [ $(echo $sysresources/*) != $sysresources/* ]; then -for resourcefile in $(echo $sysresources/* 2 /dev/null | egrep '^[-/_[:alnum:]]*$'); do - xrdb -merge $resourcefile -done - fi + for resourcefile in $sysresources/*; do +if [ -f $resourcefile ]; then + if expr $resourcefile : '.*/[:alnum:_-]*' /dev/null 21; then +xrdb -merge $resourcefile + fi +fi + done fi if [ -x /usr/bin/X11/xmodmap ]; then pgpmS1EA6ejN9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Long time Debian user with semi-technical question
On Tue, Apr 25, 2000 at 12:02:36AM -0400, Andrew Weiss wrote: I have been using Debian since the old A.out days of Debian 1.0, and I was A remark like this makes me wonder if you REALLY WERE a user back then. :) 1) There was no Debian 1.0. InfoMagic saw to that. 2) The first official Debian release (1.1 or buzz) was ELF-based. 3) The previous numbered version, 0.93R6, was a.out-based. -- G. Branden Robinson| Debian GNU/Linux |Never attribute to malice that which can [EMAIL PROTECTED] |be adequately explained by stupidity. roger.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | pgpHcRijFf14N.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: END Key in Emacs (only in Xterm)
On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 07:50:31PM -0300, Rodrigo Castro wrote: Hello Branden, On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 05:07:11PM -0400, Branden Robinson wrote: On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 10:48:24AM -0300, Rodrigo Castro wrote: Sorry for sending this message again and sorry for sending to devel (I don't know if I should). I really need your help, I tried everything I know and I can't make my Emacs work with END key, when it is in Xterm. If you're using xterm 3.3.6-6, please be sure and read the Debian X FAQ. There is a section about debugging key binding problems. file:/usr/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz I had already read it. If I change TERM variable to linux, it works. Look at what is returned by these commands (xev reports everything fine): infocmp xterm linux reveals that kend is defined the same for both terminal types, and the default xterm Xresources file explicitly binds the End key to ESC [ 4 ~. If xemacs can't handle that I suggest you contact its package maintainer. -- G. Branden Robinson|Somewhere, there is a .sig so funny that Debian GNU/Linux |reading it will cause an aneurysm. This [EMAIL PROTECTED] |is not that .sig. roger.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | pgpgzY0ZBEtzU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: END Key in Emacs (only in Xterm)
On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 10:48:24AM -0300, Rodrigo Castro wrote: Sorry for sending this message again and sorry for sending to devel (I don't know if I should). I really need your help, I tried everything I know and I can't make my Emacs work with END key, when it is in Xterm. If you're using xterm 3.3.6-6, please be sure and read the Debian X FAQ. There is a section about debugging key binding problems. file:/usr/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz -- G. Branden Robinson| The greatest productive force is human Debian GNU/Linux | selfishness. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Robert Heinlein roger.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | pgpykJAPiO6pC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ATTN: pjw@edmc.net
On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 09:45:35AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 03:55:39AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: I suggest you close bugs filed by such people without comment. Call it the Malicious Blacklist User Behavior Modification System. Of course, you could always just get the work done and email back to [EMAIL PROTECTED]; since it'll go through Debian the email will indeed arrive just fine. Blacklisters may have the right to speak and *say* what they think I should do, but they have no right to be heard. If you have the right to refuse to listen to me on my terms, I have the right to refuse to listen to you on yours. There are many options available for blacklist-employing Debian users that require only minimal additional effort on their part. If they are using an ISP that employs the DUL and have no ability to opt out of it, perhaps they should explore using a different ISP. There are lots of them, you know. That's pretty hypocritical coming from you lot who claim you can't find another ISP -- you're the ones with the broken ISP after all. My regualr email address rejects on RSS, RBL and DUL (I configured it that way myself) -- you can still email me at debian.org just fine though. You have a staggering inability to perceive rhetorical congruence. -- G. Branden Robinson|If you wish to strive for peace of soul, Debian GNU/Linux |then believe; if you wish to be a [EMAIL PROTECTED] |devotee of truth, then inquire. roger.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ |-- Friedrich Nietzsche pgpLDF8R5ZB7x.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ATTN: pjw@edmc.net
On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 04:02:43PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: You should at the very least mention why you're closing the bug report. It may, for example, be the case that user is unaware that their usual mail system uses the DUL or whatever. Randomly closed bugreports will just annoy people without actually helping them realise that you find yourself unable to talk to them and what they can do to work around this situation. Did you bother to read my close message? Obviously not. I did in fact include an explanation of why I was closing the bug. Not that I would advocate doing this in the first place. Fine; if you want to have a conversation with people who refuse to listen to you, that's your right. I see communication as a bidirectional process, however. -- G. Branden Robinson| One man's magic is another man's Debian GNU/Linux | engineering. Supernatural is a [EMAIL PROTECTED] | null word. roger.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | -- Robert Heinlein pgpFMozaTVFFJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ATTN: pjw@edmc.net
On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 01:50:09PM -0800, Joseph Carter wrote: If you wish to email me about any of my packages, do so from an address which does not reject my mail as coming from a dialup IP. My IP is STATIC and your ISP is run by morons who can't tell the difference, even though I am no longer listed on the DUL. I am attempting once and once only to reach you via the lists. I will not attempt to do so in the future. Mail me from an ISP with a clue in the future if you'd like a reply. I suggest you close bugs filed by such people without comment. Call it the Malicious Blacklist User Behavior Modification System. If they don't want to communicate with package maintainers, they have several options for getting their problems resolved: 1) they can obtain an email address at a place that doesn't use the DUL; 2) they can file the bug through a friend who doesn't use the DUL; 3) they can fix the problem themselves and post the fix to debian-devel. There are many options available for blacklist-employing Debian users that require only minimal additional effort on their part. If they are using an ISP that employs the DUL and have no ability to opt out of it, perhaps they should explore using a different ISP. There are lots of them, you know. -- G. Branden Robinson| Debian GNU/Linux |The noble soul has reverence for itself. [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-- Friedrich Nietzsche roger.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | pgpqsAVz8VPyF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: XFree 3.3.6 SOUND problem (?)
On Sun, Mar 26, 2000 at 12:28:08PM +, Esdras Beleza de Noronha wrote: I'm having a very, very strange problem with XFree 3.3.6. I have a SiS 6326 (it uses the XF86_SVGA server) and a CMI 8330/SB16 soundcard, and they're configured. When I run X using the 16 bpp resolution, my sound is very, very bad, with creaks. But when I run it using 8 bpp, the sound is very good. I tried ask this to half Linux community, but nobody gave me a solution. Can you help me? Perhaps someone else on debian-user could share their experiences with this person? The only thing I can think of that is that whatever you're doing in 16bpp puts more demands on the host processor than 8bpp mode. This is definitely going to be true in situations where the host CPU does a lot of blitting to the framebuffer by hand. This might happen in 2D games, for instance, where there are a lot of refresh events. Other than that, I really have no idea. There is currently no defined standard for interfacing a sound server of any sort with the X server. (There probably should be, but life is short and art is long.) -- G. Branden Robinson|Suffer before God and ye shall be Debian GNU/Linux |redeemed. God loves us, so He makes us [EMAIL PROTECTED] |suffer Christianity. roger.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ |-- Aaron Dunsmore pgp3Ea4ackG0Y.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Bash, Keys, Potato
On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 06:17:21PM -0300, Rodrigo Castro wrote: I started with no .inputrc, no /etc/profile, no /etc/inputrc and even so I had problems with letter E (upcase only). Any idea? Even with no setup, no config files, I get no success. I upgraded my libreadline4 today and it didn't work either. Hmm, since you are from brazil you might not be used a key layout 100% identical to a North American keyboard. You may have fallen victim to Yann Dirson's 100%-bug-free console-data package. Install the kbd package, and from the console (not X), use the showkey command to determine what scan code is being generated by the E key. If none, you either have a hardware problem or a kernel problem. Otherwise, your console keymap is messed up and you should file a bug against the console-data package. Don't feel bad; Yann Dirson has the default keymap set to some French thing -- this affects every Debian user in the world, and most of the world isn't France. I guess some people take the figurative expression lingua franca too literally. :) -- G. Branden Robinson|Software engineering: that part of Debian GNU/Linux |computer science which is too difficult [EMAIL PROTECTED] |for the computer scientist. roger.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | pgpkH3GD354xW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Bug#60891: xdm: Installs default tty7 line in Xservers -- breaks system
On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 04:11:44PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Package: xdm Version: N/A Severity: critical I don't appreciate critical bug reports that reveal such profound ignorance of the Debian system in general, and of the xdm package specifically. When installed with apt-get xdm postinst inserts a default line in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers of ':0 local /usr/bin/X11/X vt7' if instructed to handle a local session. It does no such thing. You obviously didn't bother to read the postinst script, so here it is. #!/bin/sh # Debian xdm package post-installation script # Copyright 1998-2000 Branden Robinson. # Licensed under the GNU General Public License, version 2. See the file # /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL or http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.txt. # Acknowlegements to Stephen Early, Mark Eichin, and Manoj Srivastava. set -e cleanup () { # unroll changes in xdm preinst for file in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-config; do if [ -e $file.xdm-old ]; then rm $file mv $file.xdm-old $file fi done /etc/init.d/xdm start } # TODO comment out these two functions for stable release maplink () { # returns what symlink should point to case $1 in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-config) echo /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config ;; esac; } readlink () { # perl kludge until readlink(1) from tetex-bin is moved into an essential package # returns what symlink actually points to perl -e '$l = shift; exit 1 unless -l $l; $r = readlink $l; exit 1 unless $r; print $r\n' $1; } trap echo ;\ echo 'Received signal. Aborting configuration of xdm package.' ;\ echo -n 'Cleaning up...' ;\ cleanup ;\ echo 'done.' ;\ echo ;\ exit 1 1 2 3 15 case $1 in configure) ;; abort-upgrade|abort-remove|abort-deconfigure) cleanup exit 0 ;; *) echo ERROR: xdm postinst called with unknown argument \$1\. echo Aborting configuration of xdm package. echo -n Cleaning up... cleanup echo done. exit 1 ;; esac condecho=: # TODO sanity checks -- comment out these for stable release for symlink in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-config; do if [ -L $symlink ]; then if [ $(maplink $symlink) != $(readlink $symlink) ]; then $condecho echo ERROR: $symlink symbolic link points to the wrong echo place. Please report this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. condecho=echo fi elif [ -e $symlink ]; then $condecho echo ERROR: $symlink is not a symbolic link. echo Please report this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. condecho=echo else $condecho echo ERROR: $symlink symbolic link does not exist. echo Please report this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. condecho=echo fi done if [ -d /usr/doc -a ! -e /usr/doc/xdm -a -d /usr/share/doc/xdm ]; then ln -sf ../share/doc/xdm /usr/doc/xdm fi # deal with a bug in very old versions of xbase for dir in rc0.d rc1.d rc6.d; do if [ -L etc/$dir/K1xdm ]; then mv /etc/$dir/K1xdm /etc/$dir/K01xdm fi done # don't start xdm if we're currently in X on the display it attempts # to manage by default nostart= xdm_running= for hostname in localhost $(hostname) $(hostname -f); do if echo $DISPLAY | grep -q ^$hostname:0.*; then nostart=yes fi done # or if it's already running if start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --signal 0 --pid /var/run/xdm.pid --exec /usr/bin/X11/xdm; then nostart=yes xdm_running=yes fi # or if the options file says not to if ! grep -qs ^restart-on-upgrade /etc/X11/xdm/xdm.options; then nostart=yes fi update-rc.d xdm defaults 99 01 /dev/null 21 if [ $xdm_running ]; then if [ -d /var/state/xdm ]; then $condecho echo Note: obsolete directory /var/state/xdm cannot be removed because xdm is still echo running. Reinstall the xdm package (or remove the directory manually) when xdm echo is not running. condecho=echo fi else if [ -d /var/state/xdm ]; then rm -r /var/state/xdm fi fi [ $nostart ] || /etc/init.d/xdm start || true exit This will cause ANY system that has 'login' running on vt7 to break. In the instance of login running on the vt that xdm attempts to start on, ALL keyboard input is disabled. Mouse events work fine, but one is unable to enter a username/password. If the system is not network connected to allow killing xdm from remote a HARD reset is required and the system must be started in SINGLE mode in order to correct the error. If YOU had READ the FAQ that is shipped with ALL Debian installations of the X WINDOW SYSTEM, you would KNOW that this problem is WELL-KNOWN about and that there is a WELL-KNOWN FIX. You'd also UNDERSTAND that because /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers is a CONFFILE, your CHANGES to the file, such as NOT STARTING AN X SERVER ON VT 7, are RESPECTED during upgrades; if the upstream version has changed AND you have MODIFIED your version, then you are ASKED which version you want to install. You are EXPLICITLY given the OPTION of KEEPING YOUR VERSION of the file. In FACT
Re: Bug#60891: xdm: Installs default tty7 line in Xservers -- break s system
On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 01:33:38AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note to the other two maintainers. Branden has closed the bug I submitted. Based on the information he provided to me in his message I feel that you also should close the bugs I submitted against gdm and wdm. They should possibly be re-submitted at a lesser severity, but not as critical. Please read my message below and determine for yourself. Branden, I've just subscribed to debian-users and have yet to get any messages after my confirmation. Please feel free to forward this if my CC dosn't go through. Hmm, Just re-read my bug-report message. Used too much cut/paste to post the three reports. As stated in the final paragraph, I do NOT have xdm installed right now, I have wdm. So I relied on the fact that all 3 packages defaulted to tty7 and that it is applied by the wdm.postinst script... Thank you for your calm reply to my very aggravated message. I did in fact download the sources to the standard getty program that we use and started poking around for a solution. I don't know if we'll be able to implement a final solution to this problem in time for the potato release (which will hopefully be soon), but here's what I think: 1) Modifying /etc/inittab would be a bad idea because it's a very sensitive thing; if a buggy package screws it up you may be very, very sorry. 2) I think a better approach would be to modify the X server and console getty programs to use lock files on the console devices. I'll want to chat with some people I trust about file locking issues (say, MDA maintainers :) ) before starting to hack on this. I guess this solution would go for programs like openvt as well. It would ultimately become Policy, but first I want to have a workable solution in place. I did some experimenting this evening and I've found that no programs seem to have any respect for any others when it comes to pouncing on a VC. getty will step on X, X will step on getty, X will step on X, etc. Permit me to *beseech* the other display manager maintainers to not modify the conffiles of another package, if that's what you're doing. I expect [gkw]dm to have their own config directories under /etc/X11/ and not fool with mine. I would do you the same courtesy, and besides, policy says you shouldn't. :) Anyway, anyone who wants to work on this issue should subscribe to debian-x and help hash it out. -- G. Branden Robinson|Suffer before God and ye shall be Debian GNU/Linux |redeemed. God loves us, so He makes us [EMAIL PROTECTED] |suffer Christianity. roger.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ |-- Aaron Dunsmore pgptPORRuBljO.pgp Description: PGP signature
[ga5in@psu.edu: DGA support]
Can someone help this gentleman out? - Forwarded message from Gavin Burris [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Gavin Burris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DGA support Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:32:13 + Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en, ja, zh Could you give me a pointer to more documentation on DGA support. I'm trying to get full screen to work with VCDs. I tried running dga and got this: X Error of failed request: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) Major opcode of failed request: 78 (X_CreateColormap) Serial number of failed request: 12 Current serial number in output stream: 269 Thank you for your time, -- --=[ Gavin Warfield Burris aka 86 ]=-- --=[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]=-- --=[ www.personal.psu.edu/gwb112 ]=-- --=[ EOF ]=-- - End forwarded message - -- G. Branden Robinson| One man's magic is another man's Debian GNU/Linux | engineering. Supernatural is a [EMAIL PROTECTED] | null word. roger.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | -- Robert Heinlein pgpfHrAH4hXxF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: So, what's up with the XFree86 4.0 .debs?
On Sun, Mar 12, 2000 at 07:06:19PM -0800, Alex Romosan wrote: the problem is with curses.h in libncurses5-dev. it redefines ERR and as such it conflicts with the definition from the glibc headers. this was the same problem noticed in dpkg 1.6.10. i just commented out the redefinition of ERR in /usr/include/curses.h and then the X package compiled just fine. i am sure the proper solution is the one used in dpkg-1.6.11 though. Hmm. I am using the following patch, which I got from slashdot of all places: --- xc/config/makedepend/cppsetup.c.origSun Mar 12 15:47:41 2000 +++ xc/config/makedepend/cppsetup.c Sun Mar 12 15:48:21 2000 @@ -188,7 +188,7 @@ return 0; do { var = (*s)-s_value; - if (!isvarfirstletter(*var)) + if (!isvarfirstletter(*var) || !strcmp((*s)-s_name, var)) break; s = lookup_variable (ip, var, strlen(var)); } while (s); It did seem to fix the problem. If someone who understands cppsetup.c could comment and it turns out that this patch doesn't in fact disable some feature of cppsetup, I will submit this patch to XFree86. Anyway, XFree86 4.0 built without errors on a potato system and I am basically deep in the guts of it right now, figuring out how I need to break it up for packaging. -- G. Branden Robinson| I am sorry, but what you have mistaken Debian GNU/Linux | for malicious intent is nothing more [EMAIL PROTECTED] | than sheer incompetence! roger.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | -- J. L. Rizzo II pgpJHheMKJq5i.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: So, what's up with the XFree86 4.0 .debs?
Today's news flash: omitted words can really change the meaning of a sentence. On Sun, Mar 12, 2000 at 01:16:55PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: They're not available yet, so I am sending this message to apprise Debian users my fellow developers of the situation. ...users AND my fellow developers... These packages will be highly, HIGHLY experimental, and I will make any effort to support smooth upgrades between them. ...and I will NOT make any effort... Also, in case it was unclear in my previous mail, I have no plans to support full versions of XFree86 3.3.x and 4.x in the same Debian release. By the time official 4.0 .debs are ready, it is my hope that the legacy chipsets currently only supported in 3.3.x will be supported in 4.x as well. 3.3.x libc5-compatibility libraries will be provided for i386 and m68k per my previous mail until and unless consensus is reached that this support should be dropped. -- G. Branden Robinson|The errors of great men are venerable Debian GNU/Linux |because they are more fruitful than the [EMAIL PROTECTED] |truths of little men. roger.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ |-- Friedrich Nietzsche pgp0PSHL61VUq.pgp Description: PGP signature
RFC: NO, THE X SERVERS SHOULD NOT DEPEND ON XFONTS-BASE
In a stressful time like freeze, it is really aggravating to deal with the nonstop trickle of people who tell me that because *THEIR* system is broken, I need to add a DEPENDENCY on xfonts-base to all the X servers, or to xserver-common. This is WRONG. Utterly, completely, and totally WRONG. There's more than one way the get font services to the X server. Installing fonts locally is only one of them. If anybody has any suggestions that would get this fact through cluebies' thick skulls that doesn't: 1) require me to dick with the package interrelationships 2) isn't documentation, since the people who report this problem can't be bothered to read any (the Debian X FAQ, the xserver-common package description) 3) will not inconvenience users who already know what's going on, or understand the concept of a font server I'd very much appreciate hearing these suggestions. Please DON'T send them directly to me; send them to debian-x@lists.debian.org instead so they can be considered and discussed by a number of people. People who don't have a handle on the issues involved need not reply to this message. I'm looking for suggestions from people who know what they're talking about, and who understand that Debian is a distribution that refuses to compromise its flexibity for the sake of less-knowledgeable users. We need intelligent solutions that hold the newbie's hand without hamstringing the wizard. Thanks in advance for any intelligent suggestions. I'm Cc'ing the xviddetect package maintainer because there may be a way to work a question about font services into anXious (this is the X-configuring component of the new install system for potato). If the user doesn't understand the question, then we should default to piling fonts on his machine. The penalty for ignorance is reduced free space on the drive. :) N.B.: I am no longer subscribed to debian-user, so I will not see messages posted only to this list. -- G. Branden Robinson|The only way to get rid of a temptation Debian GNU/Linux |is to yield to it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-- Oscar Wilde roger.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | pgp5PS0PNeqrR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: RFC: NO, THE X SERVERS SHOULD NOT DEPEND ON XFONTS-BASE
On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 07:16:24PM +1100, Brian May wrote: Branden == Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Branden In a stressful time like freeze, it is really aggravating Branden to deal with the nonstop trickle of people who tell me Branden that because *THEIR* system is broken, I need to add a Branden DEPENDENCY on xfonts-base to all the X servers, or to Branden xserver-common. I might be on the wrong foot here... However, you already have a program that checks /etc/XF86Config for errors before xdm starts (gdm doesn't use it, so I can't check). Minor point: it's /etc/X11/XF86Config for Debian, not /etc/XF86Config Major point: The program you refer is parse-xf86config, and it is going away in 3.3.6-4; no one has time to keep it up to date with the myriad bizarre options (some undocumented) that XF86Config uses. I've already removed it from my development tree for 3.3.6-4. Besides, the reason for its existence (to prevent xdm from starting and looping on a broken XF86Config) has been otherwise addressed for quite some time. xdm is now well behaved on a broken config file, or any other factor that keeps it from starting properly. -- G. Branden Robinson|Any man who does not realize that he is Debian GNU/Linux |half an animal is only half a man. [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-- Thornton Wilder roger.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | pgpiw7NaCXlLn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: New X for stable
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 08:37:33PM -0700, Greg Heather Vence wrote: Thanx for the work on X. I've got a Viper 770 and was wondering what the plan was for stable? I know netgod is hosting 3.3.3.x What about 3.3.4 and 3.3.5? Please see http://www.debian.org/~branden/ for the latest information. -- G. Branden Robinson | When dogma enters the brain, all Debian GNU/Linux | intellectual activity ceases. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Robert Anton Wilson cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | pgpgzvM23fyLU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: where do i find crypt ?
On Thu, Jul 08, 1999 at 03:08:58AM -, Pollywog wrote: /tmp/ccc00945: In function `try': /tmp/ccc00945(.text+0xb83): undefined reference to `crypt' can anyone tell me please where/what package do i get the crypt function from ? Isn't that in libc6, folks? Yes. Be sure you supply -lcrypt on the gcc command line when building that file. -- G. Branden Robinson |The greatest productive force is human Debian GNU/Linux |selfishness. [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-- Robert Heinlein cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | pgp1zGx0f8fpa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: xterm with utf-8
On Fri, Jul 02, 1999 at 05:57:10PM +0100, Stefan Baums wrote: From /usr/doc/xterm/changelog.Debian.gz: xfree86-1 (3.3.3.1-4) unstable; urgency=low * (#011): Debian-specific xterm patches - disable UTF-8 support, upstream author is still working on it How can I reenable the UTF-8 support? I got myself the sources, but do not know _where_ to disable the patch. I don't appear to have mentioned this in the changelogs (oops), but UTF-8 support was turned back on after a release or two (possibly 3.3.3.1-7). 3.3.3.1-10 is the current unstable version. -- G. Branden Robinson | Q: How does a Unix guru have sex? Debian GNU/Linux | A: unzip;strip;touch;finger;mount;fsck; [EMAIL PROTECTED] | more;yes;fsck;fsck;fsck;umount;sleep cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | pgpogDPy9AQ5a.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: X -- switching colour depths on the fly
On Wed, Jun 30, 1999 at 01:32:44AM -0700, G. Crimp wrote: I know about changing resolutions in X by using the Ctrl and Alt keys along with the keypad + or -. I am wondering now if anyone knows if it is possible to switch colour depths without restarting X and demanding a specific depth. It is not possible to change the color depth the X server is using without restarting it, no. See /usr/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ. XFree86 4.0 (which isn't expected out for months) is supposed to support overlays, however (for instance, 8bpp PseudoColor windows when the server is 24 or 32 bpp TrueColor). To some extent, I am told, this will depend on the supported features of the graphics card. -- G. Branden Robinson | Debian GNU/Linux | Mob rule isn't any prettier just because [EMAIL PROTECTED] | you call your mob a government. cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | pgpQinbxpl1aG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: vim 5.4m BETA packages
On Tue, Jun 29, 1999 at 01:39:32AM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I might create a vim-xaw later, which will be the same as vim but with an Xaw frontend. If you want this please let me know, otherwise I might just take the easy way out and skip it:). Do it, man. Athena OWNS you. :) -- G. Branden Robinson | Debian GNU/Linux |kernel panic -- causal failure [EMAIL PROTECTED] |universe will now reboot cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | pgpY0CRGhWFiF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: WHERE IN THE WORLD IS X-WINDOWS? (I'M SO CONFUSED!)
On Mon, Jun 28, 1999 at 11:04:40PM -0700, Wendell Buckner wrote: WHAT PACKAGE CONTAINS X WINDOWS!!! There are many pieces to the X Window System. The best place to start is the xfree86-common package: Package: xfree86-common Status: install ok installed Priority: standard Section: x11 Installed-Size: 369 Maintainer: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source: xfree86-1 Version: 3.3.3.1-9 Replaces: xbase ( 3.3.2.3a-9), xlib6g-dev ( 3.3.2.3a-2), xstd Suggests: twm, xbase-clients, xdm, xf86setup, xfonts-100dpi | xfonts-75dpi, xfonts-base, xfonts-scalable, xlib6g, xlib6g-dev, xserver-common, xserver-vga16 | xserver, xterm Conffiles: /etc/X11/Xresources/xfree86-common a0f3911120c49038cb87607e3c545b90 /etc/X11/Xsession 35ac1fe026fb8b6465997c5b0955753f /etc/X11/Xsession.options 1fa7cd6f1072b72467e14442efbbf9d6 Description: X Window System (XFree86) infrastructure xfree86-common contains the filesystem infrastructure required for further installation of the X Window System in any configuration. . Those wishing an X server only (with remote font services and clients) will also require the xserver-common package and an X server package. . The counterpart to the above configuration is a machine with the X libraries (the xlib6g package), xbase-clients, a window manager, some X font packages, and likely many more client packages. . Those who desire a standalone X workstation (and/or are fuzzy on the concepts of X servers and X clients) will require both of the above sets of packages. A recommended minimal list of packages for such a configuration is: xbase-clients, xf86setup, xfonts-100dpi or xfonts-75dpi, xfonts-base, xfonts-scalable, xlib6g, xserver-common, an xserver (several are available, and which you use is largely dependent on your graphics hardware), a window manager (several are available, and which you use is largely a matter of preference), and a terminal emulator X client package (again, several are available and which you use is your decision). . A number of terms are used to refer to the X Window System, including X, X Version 11, X11, X11R6, and X11R6.3. The version of X used in Debian GNU/Linux is derived from the version released by the XFree86 Project, Inc., and is thus often also referred to as XFree86. All of the preceding quoted terms are functionally interchangeable in a Debian system. . Still confused? Install this package and then read the files in /usr/doc/xfree86-common/ for assistance. -- G. Branden Robinson | Debian GNU/Linux |If existence exists, [EMAIL PROTECTED] |why create a creator? cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | pgpJjx1N2Drgz.pgp Description: PGP signature