Where is linux-wlan-ng?

2006-02-24 Thread Branden Faulls
I recently downgraded a laptop of mine (Thinkpad X24) from an
out of date Testing (sarge when it was in testing) distribution to
Stable (sarge as of Feb 2006).  

To get the pinning to work as I downgraded, I had to remove linux-wlan-ng. 
Unsurprisingly, now the built-in prism2 based wireless doesn't work
and I can't seem to find linux-wlan-ng in the apt repositories. 

* Has this become unavailable?
* Is it better to shift up to a 2.6.[n] kernel and use the built in
prism drivers? If so are they built in or do I need to compile a
 custom kernel?
* Is there a new package to handle this?

Many Thanks,

Branden 
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Re: laptop sharing home directory with desktop

2005-08-08 Thread Branden Faulls
On Fri, Aug 05, 2005 at 09:12:19AM +0200, wim wrote:
 Luca Pireddu wrote:
 I just got a laptop and I'm looking for a way to keep my home directories 
 on
 the laptop and my desktop synchronised (possibly with the option of 
 excluding
 some paths).  
 
 Looking around it seems that the InterMezzo filesystem provides what I 
 want,
 but it seems to be dead (no recent releases, nothing happening on the 
 mailing
 lists).  Scanning the Debian packages names for 'synchroni' showed two 
 other
 potential candidate tools:
 
 1. Tra (still in early development)
 2. Unison
 
 It seems that Unison is the best choice at the moment, but it would be 
 nice to
 hear recommendations or advice from people with experience.  I presume that
 this is a problem that most laptop owners run into.  How are you solving 
 it? Any recommended tools/solutions?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Luca


I'll second Unison.  The Gui version unison-gtk is simple and easy to use.  I 
use it for my laptop as well as keeping all of my various usb-keys in 
sync with my desktop folders.  

I  recently moved all my home directories onto an NFS server and during the 
migration, used Unison to ensure there weren't any conflicts with file 
versions.  Getting the application to ignore paths temporarily/permanently is 
as easy as it could get.  

Try it, you'll like it!

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exim4 spamassassin - no spam scanning

2005-07-09 Thread Branden Faulls
After a recent upgrade to sarge, I decided to update exim to exim4.  This was 
fairly painless, until I tried to configure spamassassin.  

Following instructions at: http://koivi.com/exim4-config/

I added a transport to /etc/exim4/conf.d/transport/30_exim4-config_spamcheck
and a router to /etc/exim4/conf.d/router/850_exim4-config_spamcheck_router

Mail is still being delivered fine, but the SPAM headers are not being added 
to the received email and the /var/log/exim4/mainlog reports that mail is 
being collected and delivered immediately to the necessary Maildir folder.  

What am I missing?  How do I get Spamassassin to scan the mail and tag it so 
that I can filter it out  with .forward rules, as I had previously?  I 
upgraded in the hope I could get sa-learn working, but so far spamassassin is 
a non-starter.

Any help would be  appreciated.
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Re: dvd playback problems - dma, udev, 2.6 kernel

2005-06-25 Thread Branden Faulls
On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 05:25:54PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Not sure how to disable ide-scsi using udev, but you can do a
 modprobe ide-cd
 and/or add it to /etc/modules, removing ide-scsi, then update 
 /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst as necessary. 
 
 John 
 
 
 Branden Faulls writes: 
 
 I'm trying to get DVD playback working on my Sid system
 running on an Epia MII mobo.  After a recent upgrade from a
 2.4 kernel to the 2.6.11 stock kernel, I lost my dvd  cdrom
 drive. By installing udev and hotplug, I was able to get the
 drive to appear and have even managed to get Xine to play
 unencrypted DVDs. 
 
 When I attempt playback of encrypted DVDs, Xine complains
 about Error cracking CSS key Since libdvdcss2 and all
 the related packages are installed, I suspect there is a
 performance issue? 
 
  Running xine-check shows all is  fine except for the DMA
 settings. This complains that DMA
 is likely to be disabled because of ide-scsi. 
 
 
 Enabling DMA  with hdparm -d1 /dev/scd0 fails.How do I remove
 ide-scsi, or is there a way to set the DMA  using the udev
 rules?  Udev is new to me, should I be using it at all?   
 
 Thanks for any assistance. 
 
 Branden  

Removing ide_scsi from my /etc/modules and doing a quick
reboot has removed the DMA problem for the DVD drive. But
still having DVD playback problems.

Unencrypted DVDs still play fine, but playback of commercial
DVDs gives me lots of libdvdread complaints about not being
able to crack the css.  

Furthermore /var/log/messages is full of:

hdc:command error: status=0x51 {DriveReady SeekComplete
Error}
hdc: command error: error=0x54{AbortedCommand
LastFailedSense=0x05}

I'm googling like a madman, but not sure what to look for
now.  Never had a problem with DVD on my other systems, so
I'm suspecting a compatibility problem with either the Epia
MII motherboard or the slot loading DVD drive.  

Any other thoughts?

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[SOLVED] Re: dvd playback problems - dma, udev, 2.6 kernel

2005-06-25 Thread Branden Faulls
Finally got this worked out.  

First I set the DVD region on my drive with regionset,  which
got rid of the seek errors that hdc was complaining of.

At this point I could get the DVDs to actually start playing,
but then xine or mplayer would quit, complaining of css
issues. This seemed odd, since I had installed libdvdcss2
previously.  However, installing it again, after adding the
videolan sources to apt-get,  all works fine!

Thanks for the help

Branden


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dvd playback problems - dma, udev, 2.6 kernel

2005-06-24 Thread Branden Faulls
I'm trying to get DVD playback working on my Sid system
running on an Epia MII mobo.  After a recent upgrade from a
2.4 kernel to the 2.6.11 stock kernel, I lost my dvd  cdrom
drive. By installing udev and hotplug, I was able to get the
drive to appear and have even managed to get Xine to play
unencrypted DVDs.

When I attempt playback of encrypted DVDs, Xine complains
about Error cracking CSS key Since libdvdcss2 and all
the related packages are installed, I suspect there is a
performance issue?

 Running xine-check shows all is  fine except for the DMA
settings. This complains that DMA
is likely to be disabled because of ide-scsi.


Enabling DMA  with hdparm -d1 /dev/scd0 fails.How do I remove
ide-scsi, or is there a way to set the DMA  using the udev
rules?  Udev is new to me, should I be using it at all?  

Thanks for any assistance.

Branden 



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Re: Possibility of personalizing OpenOffice documents automatically?

2005-06-01 Thread Branden Faulls
On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 10:03:30AM -0400, Gregory Seidman wrote:
 On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 12:36:51PM +0200, Herv? Piedvache wrote:
 } On Tuesday 31 May 2005 12:08, Lee Braiden wrote:
 }  On Tuesday 31 May 2005 11:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 }   No I want the operators to not be able to modify the original document
 }   ... And to have only a main administrator of the documents ...
 }   It's a kind of contact center, where people manage phone calls and for
 }   each call they will attribute to the customer a status ... and this
 }   status will produce a postal mail ... to be generated immediatly or by
 }   batch at the end of the day ... all the mail will be printed and put in
 }   wrap to be posted !
 }  
 }   It's clearer ? ;o)
 } 
 }  The usual way to do this sort of thing would be with a webserver running 
 on
 }  your intranet, which is linked to a database, and keeps a list of your
 }  customers.  Staff can then pull up a webpage, click a button, and have the
 }  server generate reports.
 } 
 } Yes ... marvelous ... but with what kind of tool do you manage the 
 production 
 } of the mail ? 
 } Yes It'll be a web application .. no problem for this ... but I want to 
 manage 
 } about 100 mail style sheet ... and be able to do the redaction of thoses 
 mail 
 } easily ... and then have a system to produce them in file and print them ...
 } 
 } So how to do that ?
 
 An OOo file is a zip file containing XML files. I don't have deep insight
 into the XML schema used, but it is well-documented and with a little
 examination of a sample file I find that it is pretty simple. Importantly,
 simple (same-styled) spans of text in a document show up as actual text
 strings in the XML. It is therefore possible to put in something like
 X_1_X in the running text and decompress/find/replace/recompress to
 produce a new file. Note that it is content.xml that you want to modify.
 

I can confirm that this process is just as simple as described. I'd create the 
template document, split it into its
component parts on the server and then make changes to content.xml before 
zipping the whole thing up automagically
and sending it off to the user/printer.  

Given the web architecture, I'd suggest doing the templating with XSL 
transformations  on the original content.xml
file. Easy peasy!

Good luck.

Branden


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having trouble with xdm/xfs 4.3.0.dfsg.1-9?

2004-12-14 Thread Branden Robinson
[Followups set to debian-x.]

Hi folks,

I just wanted to bring the following information to the attention of those
who may be frustrated by problems with the latest xdm and xfs packages.

[...]
   [14 December] XFree86 4.3.0.dfsg.1-9 sneaked out with a couple of
   small but annoying bugs in it. Specifically, the xdm and xfs packages
   suffer from some bad shell syntax in conffiles. Fabio and I plan to
   release what it is currently on the SVN trunk as 4.3.0.dfsg.1-10 in a
   couple of days. In the meantime, you can grab fixes (in unified diff
   format) for the [14]xdm bug and the [15]xfs bug from the archives of
   the debian-x mailing list.

  14. http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2004/12/msg00411.html
  15. http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2004/12/msg00410.html
[...]

The above is from the X Strike Force news page.  If you use Debian X Strike
Force-maintained packages from testing or unstable, please bookmark the
following site:

http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/NEWS.xhtml

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Re: lost my 'c' key in X

2004-07-27 Thread Branden Robinson
[I am not subscribed to debian-user; please retain the debian-x list in
your replies if they are on-topic.]

On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 08:40:26PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
 also sprach Nori Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.07.20.2012 +0200]:
  as suggested in an earlier thread[1]: `setxkbmap us` (or whatever variant
  you're using -- for a good time, try `setxkbmap dvorak` ;)
 
 heh. sorry for not having checked the archives. it was too surreal
 for me to experience to even think that this may happen twice. also,
 the machine in question is being really wicked lately.
 
 anyway, my problem appears way before I even get an xterm. it's
 already present in xdm. sucks if your login name contains one of the
 broken characters...
 
 nevertheless, I am using the us keymap, and XF86Config-4 is
 correctly configured. I also see it in the logs:
 
 (**) Option XkbLayout us
 (**) XKB: layout: us
 
 it's cool to have a workaround, but i think we need to fix the bug
 at a deeper level. what the heck is going on?
 
 and why 'c' and 'e'? sounds like a corruption of the keyboard map
 files to me. or something like that...

A problem sounding suspiciously similar to this afflicts U.K. keyboard
users who had specified uk as their XkbLayout rather than gb.

The XKB layout names are based on ISO 3166 country codes, which means that
the U.K. gets the odd country code of gb rather than uk.

Does this information help any?

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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a Province of China?

2004-04-05 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 07:28:49PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
 Given what I understand of the politics and history of Taiwan/China, I 
 think it is unlikely that the two use the same language *in every detail*.
 Particularly, I doubt that their usage of technical language jargon is the
 same.

I'm just a naïve gaijin[1], but I'm not sure you're right about that.
Written zh_CN and zh_TW look very similar to Western eyes.  I've seen a
comparison of the two in some Sun documentation, and they really just
looked like the exact same glyphs in two different fonts.  Like look at
English lettering in bold versus normal weight.  (Not *exactly* like
that, but close).

Sun Microsystems has a lot of expertise in this area.

We have nothing to gain by taking sides political conflicts like this.
The Debian OS can be customized by regional interests if needed.
Beijing and Taipei can each make their own politically-correct forks of
Debian if they need to, deleting offensive nomenclature about the other
country.  Similarly, Kurds in Iraq or Turkey may create Kurdistan
GNU/Linux, to the irritation of the Turkish government and the U.S.
occupation force in Iraq.  Chechen rebels or Basque separatists could
fork Debian, too.

IMO, we should neither try to take a strong position on these
politically explosive issues, nor should we try to walk on eggshells.
I think we should take a similar approach as we do to package
management.  If we have developer(s) willing to vouch for legitimacy of
a locale, and willing to maintain support for it, we should include it.

If some governmental interest needs to bowdlerize our distribution to
satisify their political sensibilities, they can go ahead.

I think it says a lot about Debian success that we've come as far as we
have -- we're a long way from worrying about fortunes-off and the Purity
Test.  Now we're worried about pissing off governments.  :)

If any Chinese would like to offer me some education on this subject in
private mail, please feel free.  I have read the Wikipedia article on
the Republic of China[3] already, though.

[1] Yes, I know that's not a Chinese word.

[2] At the same time, from my modest knowledge of Chinese history since
1949, it's hard to find neutral terminology.  Neutral terms about this
issue seem to get perverted over time into euphemisms for either
unificiation or independence, and then become political footballs.

[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_China

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Re: How do I make dpkg-reconfigure rewrite XF86Config-4?

2003-10-01 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:43:18AM +0800, Benjamin J. Tilly  wrote:
 I have a locally modified XF86Config-4 file.  I would like to
 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' and have it overwritten.
 But it won't because the file is locally modified.
[...]
 The FAQ does not spell out how to convince it to overwrite anyways.

I've been meaning to fix that.

 It looks like I just need to run the right command to put the right
 MD5 checksum in the right format in the right place.  Can anyone
 tell me what those values of right are?  And as a follow-up,
 should an answer to this question be put in the FAQ?

Yes.  In the meantime you can get the instructions from a
dexconf-written config file.  Just do this:

$ dexconf -output=/tmp/foo
$ pager /tmp/foo

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Re: Anti Open Source Psyops / Mind Tweakers? (they'll never believe we're really aliens dept)

2003-06-01 Thread Branden Robinson
 to make you believe
 that what is said in this message cannot be reality.

Karl, people like you should not be _allowed_ to see _The Matrix
Reloaded_.

 You may think this is a joke eMail, but it is not.  It resembles
 reality in some regard -- you must admit it.

Oh, if only I could escape the reality that has a Karl Hegbloom running
around without the supervision of a neurologist!

 That's a target on your back.  

So what else is new?  Did you see those other guys' platforms?  I mean,
did you *see* them?  If I run next year I'll be accused of freeing
Willie Horton!

 http://www.teahouseofdanger.com/dti/html/WOORRDS/words_3.html
 http://www.unsolvedmysteries.com/usm205362.html
 http://mediafilter.org/MFF/USDCO.PsyWar.html
 http://www.greenpanthers.org/psychological-warfare.html

Sorry, can't be bothered to check any of these links out at present.

Unsolved Mysteries, eh?  Did you notice that they killed off Robert
Stack?  See what loyalty they show to their faithful minions?  HE GOT
TOO CLOSE TO THE TRUTH, and POP, just LIKE THAT, he'd DEAD.  Old age,
natural causes, HAH!

 Just because they've classified you as paranoid doesn't mean they're not
 really out to get you.

If I were a religious man, I'd thank God that occasional real paranoiacs
like you turn up from time to time to remind me that what I call my
paranoia is really just sensible caution.  And I'm not even as careful
as Manoj.

 There are head hunters and there are head hunters.

I hear there's a whole line of porn flicks by this name.

 Word of the day:  Opportunistic Silentism

That's two words.

Thanks for the amusement.  On a more serious note, Karl, please do get
back on your medication.

[1] Bizarrely enough, I've never actually seen _The Matrix_, so I don't
know if the MIBs in that movie smoke or not.  All I need to know about
MIBs I learned from the first season of _The X-Files_, anyway.

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Toshiba laptop keybounce

2003-03-14 Thread Branden Robinson
reassign 121335 kernel
thanks

[I am not subscribed to debian-user.]

On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 08:30:53PM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 11:14:19PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
 
  I take it 121335 should be reassigned to the kernel, then?
 
 I would not object.  However, it would probably be wise to get someone
 with a Toshiba to see if 2.5 really fixes the problem or not.  All I've
 got is an unconfirmed report that it's fixed.  If the new input system
 in 2.5 doesn't fix it then I'm afraid that you'll still have to work
 around it in X, or wait until someone like Marcello takes over control.

If some folks with Toshiba laptops would visit:

  http://bugs.debian.org/121335

and attempt to reproduce this problem, Herbert and I would very much
appreciate it.

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Re: Microsoft's plans to kill open source: TCPA

2002-11-03 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 12:19:44PM -0500, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:
 FUD! FUD FUD FUD FUD!!!  This is completely all wrong.  Recently a talk
 was given at MIT by one of the designers of Microsoft Palladium (their
 trusted computing initiative) at MIT.  I was at the talk, which received
 lots of coverage on sites like slashdot and arstechnica.

I reel at your credulity, sir.  No less a personage as Steve Ballmer has
described FS/OSS as enemy number one, or words to that effect.
Microsoft has bent its every division to a single goal in the past; it
would be foolish to assume that they aren't doing so this time.

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Re: Make Debian better (Re: Two Debian 3.0 reviews at Slashdot)

2002-10-21 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 12:15:16PM -0700, Michael Cardenas wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 12:49:34PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
  On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 09:07:48AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
  
- broken home/end keys in bash in xterm (even in Woody)
  
  You'll have to persuade the upstream bash/libreadline cabal that
  actually supporting DEC VT100 and later terminal emulation is a
  worthwhile thing to do, instead of half-assing their way through it.
 
 Isn't it the downstream packager's job to take upstream and configure
 it in a usable way for most users? It seems that if the patches
 discussed earlier in this thread work, then whining about upstream
 attitudes is just an excuse for not applying them. 

You need to know whereof you speak before you shoot off your mouth like
this.

* VT220+ terminal emualtion is a stateful thing.  Certain keys have a
  one meaning in application-keypad mode, and another meaning in normal
  mode.  Terminal control sequences can (and will) move the terminal in
  and out of application-keypad mode.  /etc/inputrc doesn't know how to
  express if the terminal is in application-keypad mode, issue this
  escape sequence when the Home key is pressed; else issue this other
  escape sequence.
* It is not the downstream packager's job to fix major design flaws in
  upstream software.
* There are times when shortsightedness makes it impossible to please
  all of the users, because they have conflicting expectations.
* Sometimes Debian developers don't have the skills or knowledge
  necessary to fix a problem.  Hypothetically, it may be the case that
  Debian's bash package maintainer isn't a wizard when it comes to the
  details of DEC terminal emulation, and/or cannot think of and
  implement a clever way to track arbitrary states for arbitrary
  keygroups in libreadline so as to achieve a general solution.  Should
  we really expect so much of our package maintainers, or should we
  simply expect them to do a good job *packaging* software?  I think
  not; not unless you're willing to underwrite their educational
  expenses.

Whining about Debian developers whining about upstream implies that you
expect Debian developers to fix every problem.  For instance, I suppose
you expect me as XFree86 package maintainer to configure XFree86 in a
usable way for most users that don't even use video cards that XFree86
supports.

If that is true, perhaps you'd like to arrange to get programming
documentation from the manufacturers of such video cards, supply me with
the hardware in question, and pay me enough money that it would it be a
worthwhile use of my time to do such a thing.

If *you're* offended by the home/end issue, perhaps *you* should stop
complaining and put some of your effort to resolving the limitations of
bash/libreadline when it comes to keeping track of the terminal's
application-keypad state.

Finally, you should be careful to ensure that your words don't get
interpreted as coming from the domain identified in the From: line of
your message, or the organization identified in your .signature, if your
words aren't to be taken as position statements from that company.

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Re: Make Debian better (Re: Two Debian 3.0 reviews at Slashdot)

2002-10-21 Thread Branden Robinson
[I am not subscribed to -user.]

On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 09:07:48AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:

  - broken home/end keys in bash in xterm (even in Woody)

You'll have to persuade the upstream bash/libreadline cabal that
actually supporting DEC VT100 and later terminal emulation is a
worthwhile thing to do, instead of half-assing their way through it.

  - missing apt localisation extensions (who t.f. told we that we are going to
release in the next few weeks, again and again for almost 6 months?!)

It's a western Canadian conspiracy to have the whole world talking
English, eh?

  - centralised setup tool which would reconfigure etherconf, pppoeconf, and
do sth. as gx-debconf does, but be more understandable.

Like the configlet-capplet frontend (cf. configlet-frontends)?

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Re: Make Debian better (Re: Two Debian 3.0 reviews at Slashdot)

2002-10-21 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 01:21:00PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 02:45:44PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
  Whining about Debian developers whining about upstream implies that you
  expect Debian developers to fix every problem.  For instance, I suppose
 
 My problem is some developers will tell the user to submit it
 upstream, when my understanding is the devel is supposed to flag it as
 upstream and go submit it upstream themselves, since they're supposed
 to have an idea what bugs are upstream anyway, and know how to provide
 more helpful input for upstream.

And sometimes the Debian developer can't really be helpful.

I, for instance, have *never* had any luck acting as a go-between for
Debian users and upstream XFree86 problems.  The upstream XFree86 guys
*always* seem to want to deal with the user directly.

This, and the lack of a bug tracking system for the XFree86 Project,  is
why I don't mark XFree86 bugs as forwarded in the Debian BTS.

I enjoy what I think is a good working relationship with XFree86
upstream despite the fact that the Developers' Reference tells me to do
things differently than I do.  It is better to be accomodating of
upstream than to mindlessly adhere to a Debian-specific best practices
document.  In this case, our users are better served the way I'm doing
it, because that's how XFree86 wants to handle things.  Who am I to tell
them to change their ways?

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Re: inappropriate racist and other offensive material

2002-03-14 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 09:42:48AM +0200, Alexey Vyskubov wrote:
 Do you really believe this? The following citation is from 'science'
 fortune file, which is NOT in fortune-offensive:
 
 Thus mathematics may be defined as the subject in which we never know
 what we are talking about, nor whether what we are saying is true.
 -- Bertrand Russell
 
 My speciality is mathematics and I find this citation extremely
 offensive.

Yeah, but it's probably a good idea to stick that fortune in the
offensive package, because the types of people who are likely to
easily take offense likely also adhere to Creationism, believe in
spontaneous generation, that the world is flat and was created in six
days, that the Sun goes around the Earth, and that there's no such thing
as irrational numbers.

Only the last belief is consistent; after all, if your mind has an
absolute monopoly on irrationality, there's none left for the rest of
the universe.  ;-)

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Re: inappropriate racist and other offensive material

2002-03-14 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 03:46:40PM -0600, Timothy R. Butler wrote:
   Just curious, but why do we have to drag Creationism into this, and further 
 more, try to make all creationists look like backwards folks from six 
 centuries ago? 

What, don't I get to have some fun in this thread, too?  Does being a
DPL candidate mean you have to give up your sense of humor?  Darn.  Oh
well, if so maybe you're better qualified to run than I am.  ;-)

 Since this conversation clearly has nothing to do with creationism, is
 there a benefit in insulting people who disagree with you? 

What's insulting about it?  I'm a big fan of irrationalism.  I'd read
Nietzsche in the original if I were fluent in German.

 You wouldn't be suggesting that opposing opinions should be expressed, would 
 you?

Of course not.  I'll defend to death your right to espouse what I
consider erroenous or misguided beliefs.  Will you do the same for me?

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[eich@XFree86.Org: [Xpert]Trident 9397 Color Distortion Problem]

2002-03-13 Thread Branden Robinson
Hi folks, friendly neighborhood X maintainer here.

Egbert Eich and Alan Hourihane are chipset driver authors for XFree86.

Help them help you!

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From: Egbert Eich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: xpert@xfree86.org
Subject: [Xpert]Trident 9397 Color Distortion Problem
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 20:02:04 +0100 (MET)
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


A while ago several people have posted reports about
color distortion with the Trident 9397. 
Alan and I followed up on these reports and we had it 
debugged half ways when the person who helped us debugging 
suddenly disappeared. 

Neither Alan nor I have access to a 9397 therefore we have 
to rely on somebody else to help us.
Also we don't think that if we spare our time to follow
up on people's reports we ask to much if we request to 
do some simple tests for us.

Therefore anyone seeing this problem is 
invited to help us tracking it down.

Egbert.



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[root@eboga.d2g.com: No Screen Found]

2002-02-08 Thread Branden Robinson
Could someone please help this gentleman out?

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From: root [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: No Screen Found
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 01:11:16 -0500
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i

Hello Branden,

I have an ATI radeon (mobility) upon startup x tells me no screen
found. On redhat, same version, I have no problems. On #debian, some
people have the SAME problem with an ATI all-in-wonder, for ages.
I know you probably hate me allready, but I thought writing you this
email before hanging myself with a network cable.

Guillaume
P.S. Sorry about the root@ email...


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[tw@webit.com: [Xpert]Looking for people/machines with SiS 315,550,730]

2002-01-28 Thread Branden Robinson
Anyone with a SiS 315, 550, or 730 video chipset, please get in touch
with this gentleman.  He is current maintainer of the XFree86 sis
video driver, and his involvement is critical if we want these chipsets
supported in XFree86 4.x.

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Hi,

if your machine has a SiS730, SiS550, SiS315, SiS315H or SiS315PRO VGA
chipset, please drop me a note.

Thanks,

Thomas


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Re: Broadcast Solution Request

2002-01-28 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 12:21:32PM -0600, Keith G. Murphy wrote:
 Benjamin Krueger wrote:
   [ X] Actually post something relevant
 
 Actually, I think getting it off all those irrelevant lists is very
 relevant.  Not to weigh in on your other points.

Oh, stop it, you'll interfere with his righteous fury.  It's cruel to
take away a man's sole means of finding satisfaction in life; if he can
find Inner Peace from riffing on a 10-year old Standard USENET Troll
Form, then I have to admit I'm envious.  ;-)

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Re: Broadcast Solution Request

2002-01-26 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 10:59:04PM -0500, Charles wrote:
 I have published multiple radio stations from a single box using 22khz
 stereo

Kindly get this bullshit thread off of debian-x.  In all likelihood most
of the readers of the other lists would like you to do likewise for
them, as well.

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[root@mysql.cc: Problem with ATI Radeon Mobile]

2001-12-28 Thread Branden Robinson
If someone could help this person out I'd appreciate it.

I hope this root reads his mail...

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Hi Branden!

Ive buyed a new Compaq Laptop with an ATI Radeon Mobile (32mb, AGP).
I configured Xfree 4.1.1 with dpkg-reconfigure xfree86-server.

I think configuration is ok, but when I start he always says:

(II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0
(II) ATI:  Candidate Device section Radeon Mobile.
(EE) No devices detected.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

You can grab my config at http://mysql.cc/XF86Config-4 and the
complete error log at http://mysql.cc/XFree86.0.log

Can it be possible that Xfree is not supporting my Graphicscard?
Please help me i dont now what the problem would is :(

greets
Markus Hoffelner
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Re: XFree86: Fatal Server error

2001-12-11 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 06:07:28PM +0100, Scott H. Hawley wrote:
 I just installed XFree86 in a new installation of Debain (testing).
 When I try to run it XFree86, I get an error:
 
 Fatal server error
 could not open default font 'fixed'
 
 I've installed the xfonts-base (and of course xfree86-common) but I'm 
 still not having any luck.  I looked for a font called fixed, but I 
 only seem to find 100dpi, 75dpi, Speedo, Type1, cyrillic, and
 misc.  
 Can you recommend a solution?

fixed is the name of a font alias, so you won't find any file or
directory by that name.

Some font package -- and no one has yet been able to figure out which
one -- is apparently managing to clobber the
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.alias file.

There are mechanisms in the Debian Policy for ensuring that this doesn't
happen, but someone is not using them.  What's probably happened is that
some font package is shipping /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.alias
as part of their package, and so when that package is upgraded or
removed, the file is automatically deleted.

Alternatively, there is a prerm or postrm script that is intentionally
removing this file.

Running the command

update-fonts-alias misc

as root should fix the problem.  Anything you can do to help track down
which package is clobbering the fonts.alias file will have my eternal
gratitude.  I'd really like to think that this isn't a problem that will
affect potato-woody upgraders, but since I don't know which package is
at fault, I have no justification for that, and I fear the impact of
this rogue package may be large.

The bottom line is that as long as xfonts-base is installed, you should
never have this problem (well, unless you've configured the X server to
use only a font server, and that font server is unavailable or unable to
serve a fixed font...).  Some rogue package is screwing things up.

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Re: XFree86: Fatal Server error

2001-12-11 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 07:21:00PM +0100, Scott H. Hawley wrote:
   Thanks very much.  I followed your advice, and I did some further checking
 in hopes of finding this rogue package to no avail.  
 
 I have tried removing xfonts-base and re-installing it, to no avail.
 I even removed everything in the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ directory.
 I removed all other fonts and again re-installed xfonts-base.

ls -l /etc/X11/fonts/misc

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Re: Usenix LISA 2001

2001-12-04 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 05:28:24PM -0800, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:
 i'll be the guy with the long hair, black laptop case, and denim jacket.

Yeah, I'm sure that'll narrow it down.  Bwa ha ha ha ha.

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[up5a@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de: a probably FAQuestion]

2001-11-23 Thread Branden Robinson
This person needs some help with his laptop and X.  Can someone help him
out, please?

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HI.

Sorry for direct s.p.amming you.
After querying the docs, I have to go on mailing.
Where do I direct a question? (Or could you bounce this to apropriate
places?)

1.) My laptop fades to white everytime I switch from the console to the
X-server 4.1.0 - I have to restart X.
2.) SuSE uses 4.0.3 or so and there it works.
3.) from the log-files I could find that SuSE-X seems to (either be more
verbose in the XFree86.log or) have APM - ABI - and all extensions
loading - unlike the debian one.

Before I start recompiling the xserver-xfree86 package, is there already
some solution for these problems.

Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,
Tobias.

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Re: XF86 4.1 on potato

2001-11-17 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 08:01:29PM -0500, Carl Fink wrote:
 Why is SPI so against frequent, less-dramatically-different releases,
 anyway?

SPI has absolutely nothing to do with Debian's release management
practices.

 Note:  I'm posting this to Debian-Policy as well as Debian-User, and suggest
 further discussion take place there.

No, the Policy list isn't correct, either.

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[typo@netcabo.pt: X upgrade broke NVIDIA binary driver]

2001-11-06 Thread Branden Robinson
Can someone who uses NVIDIA's binary-only drivers with Debian's X
packages help this guy out?

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I don't know if you care about binary drivers but the last X upgrade broke 
3D/DRI/GLX in the nvidia's driver.

glxinfo shows:

 name of display: :1.0
@@Created GLX Context..
display: :1  screen: 0
direct rendering: No
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
client glx vendor string: Brian Paul
client glx version string: 1.2 Mesa 3.0
client glx extensions:
GLX_utah_direct_0_2, GLX_no_accel
GLX extensions:
OpenGL vendor string: `Q^D899,@256/AGP 
OpenGL renderer string: `Q^D899,@256/AGP
OpenGL version string: `Q^D899,@256/AGP
OpenGL extensions:
GL_EXT_paletted_texture, GL_EXT_shared_texture_palette
glu version: 1.2 Mesa 3.2 beta 1
glu extensions:
GL_EXT_abgr

   visual  x  bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer  ms  cav
 id dep cl sp sz l  ci b ro  r  g  b  a bf th cl  r  g  b  a ns b eat
- --
0x21 16 tc  0 16  0 r  y  .  5  6  5  0  0 16  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x22 16 dc  0 16  0 r  .  .  5  6  5  0  0 16  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x2a 16 tc  0 16  0 r  .  .  5  6  5  0  0 16  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x2b 16 tc  0 16  0 r  .  .  5  6  5  0  0 16  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x2c 16 tc  0 16  0 r  y  .  5  6  5  0  0 16  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x2d 16 dc  0 16  0 r  .  .  5  6  5  0  0 16  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x2e 16 dc  0 16  0 r  y  .  5  6  5  0  0 16  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x2f 16 dc  0 16  0 r  y  .  5  6  5  0  0 16  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 None

For a Geforce 2 MX AGP

and dmesg:

NVRM: loading NVIDIA kernel module version 1.0-1541
NVRM: AGPGART: Intel 440BX chipset
NVRM: AGPGART: aperture: 64M @ 0xe800
NVRM: AGPGART: aperture mapped from 0xe800 to 0xcd959000
NVRM: AGPGART: mode 2x
NVRM: AGPGART: allocated 16 pages
NVRM: AGPGART: freed 16 pages
NVRM: AGPGART: backend released
NVRM: AGPGART: Intel 440BX chipset
NVRM: AGPGART: aperture: 64M @ 0xe800
NVRM: AGPGART: aperture mapped from 0xe800 to 0xcd959000
NVRM: AGPGART: mode 2x
NVRM: AGPGART: allocated 16 pages
NVRM: AGPGART: freed 16 pages
NVRM: AGPGART: backend released

I didn't submit this as a bug report because I don't know which of the 
packages in X caused this.

I tried this with 2.2.19, 2.2.20 and 2.4.13 kernels, they all show roughly 
the same symptons.

I did reinstall the driver after I upgraded X, so the problem isn't there.

And I am absolutely sure it's not a hardware problem. I put the board in a 
computer with an older version of X and it worked, when I upgraded X  it 
stopped working in the exact same way.

If this was already reported of if you don't care about binary modules, I 
apologize.

Greetings from Portugal,

Pedro. 
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[phil@mail.brainlink.com: Not configuring]

2001-10-29 Thread Branden Robinson
Would someone like to help this gentleman out?

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Hi 
I'm a Newbie. Just got a copy of Offical Debian GNU/Linux along with a CD
with version of 2.1.  I've got the OS up and running and I'm learning how
to get around in the command line.  I'm trying to install xbase - now
XFree86 X-window support.  I deslect the proper packages (I think) and
immediately after install it starts to ask a few questions (i.e. vga-16 as
default,  olvwm as default etc) but never gets into hardware questions.  I
get an installation complete message,  and when I try to start (startx,
xinit command) I get missing config file messages along with places Linux
has looked for it.  I moved a config file to the correct place and now I'm
getting messages concerning keyoard configuration.  HELP!!!  

Where can I find info on writing a proper config file WITH EXAMPLES
PLEASE.Any help or even pointing me in the right direction would be
great.
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PROPOSED: new package: xinit

2001-10-23 Thread Branden Robinson
[Please followup to debian-x@lists.debian.org.]

The clamor for a small package containing just what you need to get the
X server started is becoming a roar in the wake of XFree86 4.x, where
Mesa-enabled X clients -- with their concomitant library dependencies --
are part of xbase-clients.

Some people, with justification, don't want or need all this ancillary
stuff when all the really need is startx and xauth (and sometimes just
xauth).

Therefore, I propose to split off xauth, startx, and xinit from
xbase-clients into a new package called xinit.  The
x-window-system-core metapackage will depend on it, and retain its
existing dependency on xbase-clients, though I could possibly be
persuased to move xbase-clients over to x-window-system from -core if
the xinit package is implemented.

Advantages of a new xinit package:
1) People who don't need Mesa libraries, etc., won't get them.
   This saves space.
2) It's as much of a client-side as people using things like X
   -indirect are likely to need.
3) People *keep* filing bugs about how bug xbase-clients plus
   its dependencies are, and this should satisfy some of them.
4) Should be convenient for users who have standardized on, say,
   the KDE, GNOME, or XFce environments and have no need for the
   miscellaenous Athena apps in xbase-clients.

Disadvantages of a new xinit package:
1) Yet Another New X Package to keep track of.
2) Anybody who manages to not have the metapackages installed,
   and gets xinit but not xbase-clients, may end up wondering
   where that stuff is, and will file bugs instead of RTFM'ing.
3) People will probably be complaining for new things to be
   put in it.  Like, say, xset.  However, everything that xset
   does is accessible through X protocol requests.  There's no
   reason that KDE or GNOME control-panel type applets can't
   achieve the same thing.
4) People won't understand that the purpose of the package is
   just to bootstrap an X session -- without using a display
   manager -- which might actually run on a remote host.  While
   the programs in xinit will be X clients in the strictest
   sense (because they use the X protocol to communicate with an
   X server), they aren't user-interactive GUI apps.  Sure, the
   purpose of the package is easily documented in the package
   description and elsewhere, but if you think people will read
   this, you've forgotten Rule #1 of Debian: armchair package
   maintainers never read things like package descriptions when
   telling another package maintainer how to organize his
   packages.  (Hello, Nick Phillips.)

I have no intention of splitting xbase-clients into xbase-clients-core,
xbase-clients-dps, and xbase-clients-gl, or what have you.  Extensions
like Xrender, DPS, and GLX are increasingly important in XFree86, and it
doesn't make sense to me to hide these things from the user.  I will
continue to close bugs asking for such packages, because I think what
most of these people are really after is the new xinit package anyway.

At present, I am leaning in favor of implementing this proposal.
However, I could be dissuaded.

I am seeking feedback on this proposal.  I am NOT currently seeking
feedback on auxiliary matters.

Specifically:
1) This is NOT a proposal on what the metapackages should depend on; and
2) This is NOT a proposal on whether or how xbase-clients should be
   further fragmented.

Both of these are issues to be decided *after* this one.

Please address only the core of the proposal, which is:

To create a new package xinit containing the programs xauth, xinit,
and startx, and their manual pages.

Comments?

[Remember, please followup to debian-x@lists.debian.org.]

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Re: x-window-system-core_4.1.0-7_all.deb

2001-10-18 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 01:37:05PM +0800, Michael Robinson wrote:
 I don't know what you did from 4.1.0-6 to 4.1.0-7, but it broke my Dell i5000e
 (ATI Rage Mobility 128, using ati driver).  The screen was covered with 
 random display glitches (correlated with CPU utilization), and when I 
 switched back to console mode, the system locked up.
 
 Downgrading to 4.1.0-6 restored normal system operation.
 
 If you need any further information, please let me know.

In the future, please ask for help on the debian-user mailing list
first.

You can always find out what I did to a package by reading its
changelog.

There were no patches applied to the ATI drivers between -6 and -7.

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XFree86 news; users of TESTING or UNSTABLE, PLEASE READ

2001-10-17 Thread Branden Robinson
[Here are the latest news items from the X Strike Force webpage; see the URL in
my .signature.]

There is a small problem with a very obvious effect in XFree86 4.1.0-7.  It
consists of erroneous quoting of a shell variable in the file /etc/
X11/Xsession.d/99xfree86-common_start.  This problem was warned about shortly
after 4.1.0-7 was released on the debian-devel and debian-x mailing lists, but
apparently lots of people who use Debian's releases-in-preparation, testing
(woody) and unstable (sid), do not read these lists.  Also, many folks
apparently do not take advantage of the features of packages like reportbug, or
otherwise check_the_existing_list_of_bug_reports_against_a_package before
filing a new one.  Remember, as satisfying as expressing your anger,
frustration, and/or annoyance with a bug may be, filing additional reports just
forces the maintainer to spend time doing bug triage that could be spent
preparing a fixed package.  In this case, however, a preview of the next release
(XFree86 4.1.0-7pre8v1) is available for i386 in my repository.  If you're
already using either of these versions, I suggest reading the new Xsession
manpage, which I almost completely rewrote to properly document the new run-
parts approach to the Xsession.d directory.  Just man Xsession and you're good
to go.

In other news, automatic usage of xmodmap on X session startup is now
deprecated.  The main reason for this is that unpredictable things can happen if
both the system and the user are using Xmodmap files, and sometimes the user
doesn't even have to have one for the keyboard to get screwed up by unintended
side effects; if you want to use Xmodmap to prep the keyboard for use with the
xdm greeter (login widget) for instance, you may execute it in a file like
/etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup, but it will get run again when the session starts,
followed by a user's Xmodmap, for a total of three possible executions of
Xmodmap for a single X session.  Unless the files are carefully written, this
can cause the keyboard to behave strangely.  Therefore, on upgrading to 4.1.0- 7
or later, the files /etc/X11/Xsession.d/40xfree86-common_xmodmap and /etc/
X11/Xmodmap are no longer marked as conffiles, and are moved to /etc/X11/
Xsession.d/40xfree86-common_xmodmap.xfree86-common-old and /etc/X11/
Xmodmap.xbase-clients-old respectively, if they are unchanged from the version
last distributed as a conffile with the package.  This decision is made
separately for each file; if you've changed it, it doesn't get moved and stays
where it is, on the presumption that you're actively using this feature.  What
used to be /etc/X11/Xmodmap continues to be available, however, as /usr/share/
doc/xbase-clients/examples/Xmodmap, and the Xsession manual page describes how
to write a replacement for /etc/X11/Xsession.d/40xfree86-common_xmodmap.  Of
course, if you're upgrading, you can just move the -old versions of these files
back into place.  Be sure to give them different names, or change their contents
(say, by adding a comment), so that they aren't moved again on the next upgrade
of XFree86.

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[jan@trantor.ux.his.no: Nvidia Riva TNT2Pro, with XFree86 v. 4.1.0]

2001-10-17 Thread Branden Robinson
Can any NVidia Riva TNT2Pro owners help him out?

I guess the first thing to do would be to make sure he doesn't have the
dreaded Xsession bug.

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From: Jan Finjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Nvidia Riva TNT2Pro, with XFree86 v. 4.1.0
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:07:05 +0200
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello,

I have an Nvidia Riva TNT2Pro card on my PC. It worked under
the debian potato distribution, XFree86 version 3.3.6.
According to the data for the 4.1.0 distribution it should
work as well or better with that one. So I felt confident to
upgrade to woody even if that distribution is still under
testing.

Well, the card doesn't seem to become recognized with the
XF86_XFree86 server, version 4.1.0-7, which if I understand
the documentation correctly should replace everything like
XF86_SVGA version 3.3.6-38, etc. With the latter one (as well
as xserver-common-v3) installed it does fire up with the old
XFree86Config although so far the display and all consoles
hang so that a reboot is needed.

I hope you might just briefly indicate to me whether I should
bet on getting the card alive with the XF86_XFree86 server,
and possibly how.
Or whether I should rather keep XF86_SVGA version 3.3.6.


Best regards,

Jan Finjord
Stavanger, Norway



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[danchev@spnet.net: Weird XFree 4.1.0-6 problem on Sid]

2001-10-15 Thread Branden Robinson

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---BeginMessage---
Hello there, 

Since I've upgraded from XFree 3.3.6. to 4.0.3 and now 4.1.0 I have being 
experienced 2 probs with it no my Debian/Sid. First is if any non-root user 
tries to startx the following happend:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ startx
giving up
xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): unable to connect to X server
xinit: No such process (errno 3): server error.

But if root startx , everything is OK. 
The second problem is :
debian:~# apt-get -f install
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 532  not upgraded.
1 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
Setting up xserver-xfree86 (4.1.0-6) ...
dpkg: error processing xserver-xfree86 (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 xserver-xfree86
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
debian:~#

Here are the configs and outputs:

debian:/# cat /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc
#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 -dpi 100  $*
debian:/#

debian:/etc/X11# cat Xserver
/usr/bin/X11/XFree86
#RootOnly
#Console
#(anyone whose controlling tty is on the console)
Anybody

debian:/etc/X11# cat Xsession.options
allow-failsafe
allow-user-modmap
allow-user-resources
allow-user-xsession
use-ssh-agent

debian:/etc/X11# cat Xwrapper.config
allowed_users=console
nice_value=-10
debian:/etc/X11#

debian:/etc/X11# dpkg -l |grep xserver
ii  xserver-common 4.1.0-6files and utilities common to all X servers
pi  xserver-common 3.3.6-38   files and utilities common to XFree86 3.x X
rc  xserver-svga   3.3.6-38   X server for SVGA graphics cards
iF  xserver-xfree8 4.1.0-6the XFree86 X server
debian:/etc/X11#

How can I use  some X wrapper to allow other console users to startx 
successfully?
Well I do not know how to resolve these problems. dpkg --force=all also 
doesn't help .Hope I was quite informative about the system
Thank you in advance 

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[jps@maxlingua.com: xfree86, installation question]

2001-10-06 Thread Branden Robinson
Someone please introduce this gentleman to our packaging system!  :)

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---BeginMessage---
Sorry to trouble you, but if you have a moment to answer a 
question, I would appreciate it.

I run Debian/Sid on all my machines. I use apt and dpkg for 
every application but XFree86. My XFree86 server is installed
by direct application of `yes | sh Xinstall.sh' in the XFree86 4.1.0
binaries directory I keep lying around.
Everytime new XFree86 packages are installed on my system (I use
`apt-get dist-upgrade' everyday) my XFree86 installation is broken.
Then I have to run `yes | sh Xinstall.sh' again, and round and round
we go! 

Do you have any ideas how I can bring my systems in line with the Debian
packages (without losing all my installed X applications)?

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[voltan@bigpond.com: XF86_NONE]

2001-09-30 Thread Branden Robinson
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Debian GNU/Linux   | troubleshoot faults.
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---BeginMessage---



Hi Branden,

Found your mail address from a yahoo search on 
XF86_NONE. My girlfriend and I have installed Debian on one of our 
systems.I am sure we are close to starting an X session however we recieve 
the XF86_NONE error along with "Can't Connet: errno = 111". 

Could you pls advise us what to do?


Any help greatly appreciated,

Kat and John.
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Re: vim 6.0 packages

2001-09-29 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 07:04:45PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 08:01:44AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sat, 29 Sep 2001, Craig Sanders wrote:
   On Fri, Sep 28, 2001 at 03:29:39PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Not needed, I'll settle for Essential: yes :)
   good idea :)
  
  I don't think so.
 
 has debian really turned into a bunch of humourless robots who can't
 spot a joke when it walks up and slaps them in the face?

Consider the source.  :-

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Re: xlib problem

2001-09-26 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 04:25:49AM -0500, Colin Watson wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 10:04:45PM -0400, Brian Schramm wrote:
  Unpacking replacement xlibs ...
  dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.1.0-6_i386.deb
  (--unpack):
   trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/mouse.xpm', which is
  also in package qcad
  dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
 
 This bug was already fixed in qcad 1.4.6-1, so once you upgrade to that
 version you should be fine - but perhaps xlibs should replace qcad (
 1.4.6-1) to make this easier? Cc'd to debian-x for comments.

Will be taken care of in 4.1.0-7.

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[tpeters@xs4all.nl: XF86 on Debian documentation]

2001-09-23 Thread Branden Robinson
Would someone please help this gentleman out?

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---BeginMessage---
I freshly installed Debian (Progeny actually) on a new disk.  First I got
the problem that X isn't working the way I like it, and then I got the
problem that I cannot find documentation on how exactly X is supposed to
work on current Debian systems.  Since you are the package maintainer, I
thought I should write you directly.

I really hate xdm (gmd, kdm).  I want to do a startx whenever I need
X, usually as a mortal.  However, on my latest installation I am told that
this user is not allowed to start X.  Says who, why not, and what can I do
about it?  The /usr/X11R6/bin/X program is setuid and setgid root, as it
is on my previous installation, but when I run it I get that message
anyhow.  I tried tracing what happens in and after the startx script, but
I lost track.

On debian-user someone suggested that this is configured in
/etc/X11/Xserver, but I believe that that file is obsoleted: it is not in
my new install, `dpkg -S` doesn't know about it (apparently on my old
installation it is a relict of a previous Debian version), and I cannot
find it documented anyways.  Note that this file used to contain the name
of the actual X server, but apparently that has been replaced by an
old-fashiond symlink.

So I like to know exactly how the various X components are put together
and configured in current Debian systems.  Is that documented
somewhere?  What I do find are release notes and generic X stuff that
apparently does not relate well to how the Debian system actually is put
together.
* What is the preferred way of starting X?
* What is the proper sequence of events?
* What exactly are the executables, scripts, and config files that are
used, and where are they supposed to live?
* How and where is all that configured:
- X server
- access (mortals must be able to run X, not just root or gdm!)
- programs to start (desktop manager, window manager, application
launcher, initial programs)
- X defaults.

Any guidance will be welcome.
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[cls@truffula.sj.ca.us: xlibs vs xlib6g ?]

2001-09-11 Thread Branden Robinson

-- 
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---BeginMessage---

When I tried to install licq_1.0.3-3_i386.deb on potato,
I ran into a maze of dependencies, and upgrading
dependent libraries ended with a deadlock between
xlibs and xlib6g.  Each seems to require the other
already be there.
And I couldn't find anything about it on debian.org.

Where should I have looked to find out how this upgrade
path is supposed to work?  Is there an upgrade roadmap
someplace? I couldn't find anything in the FAQ.

TIA


Cameron
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ALERT: XFree86 4.1.0-3 maintainer scripts hosed; please wait for 4.1.0-4

2001-08-30 Thread Branden Robinson
Folks might want to wait for 4.1.0-4.  I'm preparing it now.

Several bugs have already been filed; no one needs to add to them.  The
problem is understood, and the fix has been written and tested.

If you already have 4.1.0-3 installed successfully, there is nothing to
worry about.

Data points:
* the problem is in the preinst and postinst scripts of several of the
  packages, including ones that almost everyone has installed
* if your /bin/sh is ash, you will likely have this problem
* if your filesystem is screwed up so that my check_symlinks_and_bomb()
  shell function needs to call analyze_path(), you will have this
  problem no matter what your shell script interpreter is

I apologize for the screwup.  My own system met neither of the above
criteria, so I did not detect the problem when testing my packages.

Here's the changelog entry, for the morbidly curious:

  * debian/shell-lib.sh:
- fix grievous typo in analyze_path (Closes: #110630)
- also made analyze_path() more helpful (thanks, Andrew Suffield)

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[richard@rowell.com: X4 SHAPE extension]

2001-08-14 Thread Branden Robinson
Would someone help this person out?

He probably is not using the X server configuration templates to
generate his XF86Config-4, so he is missing the Module section.

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From: Richard Rowell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: X4  SHAPE extension
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:30:48 -0500
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I upgraded to your X4.03 package but none of my window managers will run now. 
 The all complain about a missing shape extension.  Any ideas?

_
Richard Rowell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete themselves 
upon execution. - Robert Sewell 

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Re: problems in upgrading xdm from potato to woody.

2001-08-11 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 02:26:58AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 Please, if I'm in the wrong address, may you point to the
 good one?

In the future, please direct questions like this to the debian-user
mailing list.

 I have a big problem in upgrading xdm from potato to woody
 in the binary_i386 version of it.
 
 In my local network, I have several X-terminals which use
 X -indirect xdmserver option. After the dist-upgrade
 procedure, the clients no longer have the menu, because
 the chooser is not found. The message saids /chooser is
 not found.
 
 I tried to add the option in command line telling xdm where
 the chooser was, but the only thing I could do to fix
 the problem was to add a soft link:
 
 ln -s /usr/bin/X11/chooser /chooser ( in the root ! )

You should probably customize the /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config file.

xdm(1) says:

   DisplayManager.DISPLAY.chooser
  Specifies the program run to offer a host menu for
  Indirect queries redirected to the special host name
  CHOOSER.  XRoot/lib/X11/xdm/chooser is the default.  See
  the sections XDMCP Access Control and Chooser.

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[rpbrown@xtra.co.nz: XFree86 4.1.0-1 Emulate3Buttons doesnt work]

2001-07-31 Thread Branden Robinson
Could someone help this person out?

Incidentally, xf86config is highly deprecated.  Its database is not up to
date and it only barely knows about the new 4.x XF86Config file format.

Debian woody/sid users should use the X servers' debconf templates to
configure the X server, perhaps seasoned with editing of the
XF86Config{,-4} file.

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From: mdew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: XFree86 4.1.0-1 Emulate3Buttons doesnt work
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:58:42 +1200
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Im sure you have heard a few problematic tails in the latest XF 4.1.0-1 in Sid..

I have the option
Option Emulate3Buttons 

(2 button PS/2 Mouse)...nothing flash

which doesnt seem to what it says, I cant copy and paste text etc... damn 
annoying ya know :)

even configuring through xf86config, wont fix things...  well thanks for the 
4.1.0 release anyway :-)

mdew

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Re: startx -- :1, xinit

2001-07-15 Thread Branden Robinson
Please direct questions like this to debian-user.

On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 08:51:42AM -0400, Paul wrote:
 Hello branden, I have a question about the startx script that you 
 modified. Would it affect xhost in any way??

No.

 I recently installed the xbase-common package and replaced the startx
 with the one you posed to the debian newsgroup, and now I can't connect
 to a local xserver using xhost.
 
 I do this:
 # as paul
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xhost +localhost
 
 # as root
 bart:~# export DISPLAY=localhost:0.0
 bart:~# kpaint
 kpaint: cannot connect to X server localhost:0.0
 
 If you have any info plz let me know.

Well, if you started the X server as display :1, and there is no X server
on :0, that would explain the above quite tidily.

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[kreutz@inf.ufsm.br: Just one question.]

2001-07-15 Thread Branden Robinson
- Forwarded message from Diego Luis Kreutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

From: Diego Luis Kreutz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Just one question.
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 16:46:22 -0300 (BRT)
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I'm trying to install xlibs-4.0.3-4_i386.deb
but the instalation process say that it 
conflicts whit xlib6g smaller than 4.0.
But I couldn't find any version of xlib6g
over 3.3.6.
I don't now what I can do for this.
And the problem is that I've a lot of programs
depending on xlib6g and others amount that a needed 
to install that depend on xlibs.

If you could give me any idea about this
I'll be thankfull.

Congratulations.

DLK 
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startx in xbase-clients 4.0.[23]

2001-07-14 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Jul 14, 2001 at 04:36:34AM -0400, Warren Turkal wrote:
 Why does a construct like startx -- :1 not work anymore (ever since 
 like 4.0.2 or something)?
 Warren

It's a bug, and it's fixed in the 4.1.0 prerelease packages at the URL in
my .sig (and therefore will be in 4.1.0-1).

For your convenience, I have attached a fixed /usr/X11R6/bin/startx.
Replace your existing version with it, and keep a copy in a safe place as
any changes to the xbase-clients package will remove this version of the
file.

In the future, please address questions like these to the debian-user
mailing list.

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#!/bin/sh

# $Xorg: startx.cpp,v 1.3 2000/08/17 19:54:29 cpqbld Exp $
#
# This is just a sample implementation of a slightly less primitive
# interface than xinit.  It looks for user .xinitrc and .xserverrc
# files, then system xinitrc and xserverrc files, else lets xinit choose
# its default.  The system xinitrc should probably do things like check
# for .Xresources files and merge them in, startup up a window manager,
# and pop a clock and serveral xterms.
#
# Site administrators are STRONGLY urged to write nicer versions.
#
# $XFree86: xc/programs/xinit/startx.cpp,v 3.7 2001/04/19 15:08:32 dawes Exp $



userclientrc=$HOME/.xinitrc
userserverrc=$HOME/.xserverrc
sysclientrc=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc
sysserverrc=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc
defaultclient=/usr/X11R6/bin/xterm
defaultserver=/usr/X11R6/bin/X
defaultclientargs=
defaultserverargs=
clientargs=
serverargs=






if [ -f $userclientrc ]; then
defaultclientargs=$userclientrc
elif [ -f $sysclientrc ]; then
defaultclientargs=$sysclientrc
fi




if [ -f $userserverrc ]; then
defaultserverargs=$userserverrc
elif [ -f $sysserverrc ]; then
defaultserverargs=$sysserverrc
fi

whoseargs=client
while [ x$1 != x ]; do
case $1 in
# extraneous null string required to keep cpp from treating /* as a C comment
/''*|\.*)
if [ $whoseargs = client -a x$clientargs = x ]; then
client=$1
elif [ x$serverargs = x ]; then
server=$1
fi
;;
--)
whoseargs=server
;;
*)
if [ $whoseargs = client ]; then
clientargs=$clientargs $1
else
# display must be the FIRST server argument
if [ x$serverargs = x ]  expr $1 : '^:[0-9]\+$'  /dev/null 
21; then
display=$1
else
serverargs=$serverargs $1
fi
fi
;;
esac
shift
done

# process client arguments
if [ x$client = x ]; then
# if no client arguments either, use rc file instead
if [ x$clientargs = x ]; then
if [ -f $userclientrc ]; then
client=$userclientrc
elif [ -f $sysclientrc ]; then
client=$sysclientrc
fi
else
client=$defaultclient
fi
fi

# process server arguments
if [ x$server = x ]; then
# if no server arguments or display either, use rc file instead
if [ x$serverargs = x -a x$display = x ]; then
if [ -f $userserverrc ]; then
server=$userserverrc
elif [ -f $sysserverrc ]; then
server=$sysserverrc
fi
else
server=$defaultserver
fi
fi

if [ x$XAUTHORITY = x ]; then
export XAUTHORITY=$HOME/.Xauthority
fi

removelist=


# set up default Xauth info for this machine







authdisplay=${display:-:0}
mcookie=`mcookie`
for displayname in $authdisplay `hostname -f`$authdisplay; do
if ! xauth list $displayname | grep $displayname  /dev/null 21; then
xauth add $displayname . $mcookie
removelist=$displayname $removelist
fi
done


xinit $client $clientargs -- $server $display $serverargs

if [ x$removelist != x ]; then
xauth remove $removelist
fi





if command -v deallocvt  /dev/null 21; then
deallocvt
fi












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[acidburn@efni.com: xbase-client 4.0.3-4 bug.]

2001-07-11 Thread Branden Robinson
Would someone teach this person how to query the BTS?

- Forwarded message from Paul Stanisci [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

From: Paul Stanisci [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: xbase-client 4.0.3-4 bug.
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 19:58:25 -0400
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello Branden. I know on the site you wanted all bugs to goto the 
XFree86 team, but this is a little different.  I recently installed 
XFree86 4.0.3 from your .deb distributions and the X server works fine. 
I can even run multiple X servers (ex: X :1). However startx will NOT 
run multiple X servers. if I type:
startx -- :1(When i'm trying to start up a secon X server)
it complains about not being able to open display 0 because it's already 
open. However, I can start the X server using other means, such as (X :1).

If you have any sugestions or if this has been reported already plz let 
me know.

thanx

~Paul Stanisci


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[bgjestva@uncultured.org: xfonts-base]

2001-07-10 Thread Branden Robinson
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: xfonts-base
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 12:23:05 -0700
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm having trouble with X on woody/testing:
   Fatal server error:
   could not open default font 'fixed'
I can't even run xf86cfg.

xfonts-base looks like it was modified yesterday.

--Bill

P.S.  Thanks for all your work on X for Debian.  I know you've been at it for a 
while.

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Re: xfree86-sis -- needs patching?

2001-07-02 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 01:50:36PM +0100, Rev Simon Rumble wrote:
 I have a laptop which doesn't work with the SiS X server included in
 Debian.  It does, however, work when I compile and install the patched
 version from the SiS web site.  (http://www.sis.com.tw)

The xserver-sis package is quite obsolete.

If you're using Debian 2.2, I suggest using xserver-svga; if you're using
Debian's testing or unstable releases, I suggest xserver-xfree86.

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[palic@billgotchy.de: What's wrong?]

2001-06-12 Thread Branden Robinson
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From: Jan-Hendrik Palic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: What's wrong?
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:02:57 +0200
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Branden...

sorry, I don't know whether write a bugreport or mail to debian-devel.. so I
think, it is a good way to mail you my problem...

I want to to build the new xfree41-packages on my sid box.

After installing the missing deb's I got these. I paste he whole screen,
sorry :)

cut
dpkg-buildpackage: source maintainer is Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dpkg-buildpackage: build architecture is i386
dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libpam0g-dev | libpam-dev, 
libfreetype6-dev, libglide2-dev, libglide3-dev
dpkg-buildpackage: Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied; aborting.
dpkg-buildpackage: (Use -d flag to override.)
debuild: fatal error at line 322:
dpkg-buildpackage failed!
gromitt:/mnt/freespace/xfree86-4.1.0# apt-get install libpam0g-dev 
libfreetype6-dev libglide2-dev libglide3-dev
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  libglide2 libglide3
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libfreetype6-dev libglide2 libglide2-dev libglide3 libglide3-dev
libpam0g-dev
0 packages upgraded, 6 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1  not upgraded.
Need to get 1306kB of archives. After unpacking 4973kB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y

cut

Unpacking libfreetype6-dev (from 
.../libfreetype6-dev_2.0.2.20010514-1_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libglide2.
Unpacking libglide2 (from .../libglide2_2001.01.26-1_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libglide2-dev.
Unpacking libglide2-dev (from .../libglide2-dev_2001.01.26-1_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libglide3.
Unpacking libglide3 (from .../libglide3_2001.01.26-1_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libglide3-dev.
Unpacking libglide3-dev (from .../libglide3-dev_2001.01.26-1_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libpam0g-dev.
Unpacking libpam0g-dev (from .../libpam0g-dev_0.72-25_i386.deb) ...
Setting up libfreetype6-dev (2.0.2.20010514-1) ...

Setting up libglide2 (2001.01.26-1) ...

Setting up libglide2-dev (2001.01.26-1) ...

Setting up libglide3 (2001.01.26-1) ...

Setting up libglide3-dev (2001.01.26-1) ...

Setting up libpam0g-dev (0.72-25) ...

gromitt:/mnt/freespace/xfree86-4.1.0# debuild
dpkg-buildpackage: source package is xfree86
dpkg-buildpackage: source version is 4.1.0-0pre1v1
dpkg-buildpackage: source maintainer is Branden Robinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
dpkg-buildpackage: build architecture is i386
dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libglide2-dev, libglide3-dev
dpkg-buildpackage: Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied; aborting.
dpkg-buildpackage: (Use -d flag to override.)
debuild: fatal error at line 322:
dpkg-buildpackage failed!

Sorry about the long lines

Hmmm... something goes wrong, I don't know why. 

Thanks for your help!

Jan-Hendrik Palic (Gromitt)


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[shan.mignot@paris.ensmp.fr: installing XFree86 4.0.3]

2001-06-07 Thread Branden Robinson
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From: Shan Mignot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: installing XFree86 4.0.3
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 09:48:48 +0200 (MEST)
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

I've tried installing the xlibs-4.0.3-3.deb and associated packages yesterday
and I've got three related questions:

* How can I have dselect install them without complaining about conflicts xlib6g
and suggesting to remove all the software that depends on it (virtually
everything on my machine as you can guess) ? Do I need to update to a version of
the debian utilities which handles these things better ?

* my video card is a VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage LT
Pro AGP-133 (rev dc) according to lspci and I am not sure the corresponding
driver was part of the XFree86 distributions lately. Does the xlibs-4.0.3-3.deb
support it ?

* The XFree86 distribution indicates a number of precautions to take when
changing version (among which there is the fact that it is highly preferable to
avoid having a running X server when doing it). Are there any similar
precautions I should take when installing xlibs-4.0.3-3.deb ?

Thanks a lot, you guys are doing a great job !

Shan

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[mrz.pct@home.com: XF86 4.x?]

2001-05-28 Thread Branden Robinson
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From: MRZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: XF86 4.x?
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 14:34:59 -0700
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi. 
I understand you're the maintainer of the XFree86 packages on Debian?
I just wanted to ask you what the planned schedule  (is there one ?) is for X 
4.x to become available via apt-get.
Before you ask, yes I am aware that there are pre-official debs currently 
available but I've had no luck getting them installed without losing my system.

If it would make things easier and hopefully faster - I am willing to help in 
whatever way I can. Fair warning though, I'm not yet expert with *nix, hence my 
asking for this pre-packaged in deb format..


Regards,
Marc.

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[Kris.VanHeurck@siemens.atea.be: i810 chipset on potato]

2001-05-26 Thread Branden Robinson
Can someone help this guy out, please?

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From: Van Heurck Kris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:  i810 chipset on potato
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 15:00:39 +0200
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dear X Strike Force,

I am currently installing Debian GNU/Linux potato on a machine in our labs.
I found out (by opening the case, since I had no documentation on the
machine) that there is a i810 chipset inside.
I found the debian-page on this matter (XFree86 with i810 chipset) but had
no succes so far on inserting the module which I succesfully compiled from
i810-agpgart-module.tar.gz into my kernel which is kernel-image-2.2.18pre21
(and I also compiled succesfully myself). It reports unresolved symbols.
Should I upgrade my xserver to woody or sid, since you say on your webpage:
[23 Dec 2000] This has been removed since the official Linux kernel and
XFree86 4.x are now in sync with each other.. what does this mean ??
Can you help me out by getting my xserver running ?

thanks,
Kris

Kris Van Heurck
Software Engineer 
Network Solutions - Communication Services
Siemens IC D NC C
current project: Mobile applications level 1
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[bmw2288@yahoo.com: installing xfree86]

2001-05-03 Thread Branden Robinson
Can someone help this person?

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From: ubto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: installing xfree86
Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 21:41:23 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am new to Debian and am having problems getting
dselect to install from floppy. All the files I
downloaded have a .DEB file extension. Dselect keeps
saying that these are not Packages. What am I doing
wrong?

 Thanks for your help
 Wayne Mains

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[joris@linux.be: X4 + 2.4 causes system freezes?]

2001-05-03 Thread Branden Robinson
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From: Joris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: X4 + 2.4 causes system freezes?
Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 08:10:13 +0200
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

I know you're probately not the right person to email this to, but I have no
idea where else I can report this, or get it solved...

Since I switched to linux 2.4.x and Xfree 4.0.x, I experience complete
system lockups (no network or serial responses either). There seems to be no
specific cause for it, it meight happen 3 minutes after startx, or 3 days.
The only way to get out of it, is a hard reset, wich obviously isn't really
gentle. I'm currently in a second process of stress testing the hardware,
but after already 36hours of cpuburn and burnMMX there is not a single sign
of instability.
I do have the weird subjective impression the freezes are happening more
 frequently lately (system usage hasn't really changed, fyi)...


I'm currently running debian unstable on linux 2.4.4 with no ac patches, and
the latest xfree avaiable in debian unstable, altough I experienced it also
with the previous versions of both kernel and Xfree.
Hardware includes a p5 200mmx, 192Mb ram and a pci voodoo banshee vga card. 

I know at least one system (owned by a friend) also experiencing this


I'm kinda desperate in finding a solution, because this really reduces the
usability of my system to almost zero :(


Much respect and greetings,
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[tnetter@ini.unizh.ch: xmesa.h etc?]

2001-04-19 Thread Branden Robinson
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From: Thomas Netter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: xmesa.h etc?
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:31:27 +0200
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello Branden,

I'm worried this might be a FAQ but I searched and searched...

In which Debian package are the includes xmesa.h and xmesa_x.h ?

Many thanks for all your work,

-Thomas

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Progeny Debian 1.0 released

2001-04-09 Thread Branden Robinson
Media Contact:
Aaron Stenhoff
Progeny Linux Systems, Inc.
(317) 833-0313 (ext. 137)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

PROGENY LINUX SYSTEMS ROLLS OUT PROGENY DEBIAN

Enhanced Version of Debian Available for Download

INDIANAPOLIS, Indiana - April 9, 2001 - Progeny Linux Systems, Inc.
announces the release of the first edition of Progeny Debian.  The download
edition is available now at www.progeny.com/download.  The boxed set will
be available on April 23rd.

Progeny Debian was developed in cooperation with Debian GNU/Linux, founded
by Ian Murdock, President and CEO of Progeny Linux Systems.  The company
includes a number of leading Debian developers who are led by CTO John H.
Hartman, a prominent expert in operating systems.

Progeny Debian provides an enhanced feature set that includes easy
graphical installation, hardware detection support, and improved
configuration and management tools.  Other additions include improved USB
support and an auto-install feature for streamlining multiple
installations.  Most of Progeny's enhancements have already been
contributed back to the Debian development tree, and the remainder will be
as time permits.  All of the software in Progeny Debian is licensed under
terms compatible with the Debian Free Software Guidelines[1], including all
changes, updates, and new packages Progeny has created.

The boxed set will offer a 90-day subscription to the Progeny Service
Network and 30 days of telephone installation support.  Progeny Service
Network provides timely, secured software updates seamlessly to corporate
customers.  The service includes free e-mail assistance and various support
levels depending on the customers' needs.

In addition to providing Progeny Debian, the archive.progeny.com site hosts
a full mirror of the Debian package archives.  We welcome downloads of
Debian and Progeny Debian alike.

Progeny Linux Systems would like to extend its thanks to the Debian user
and development community; their contributions and hard work over the past
several years have made Debian GNU/Linux an outstanding foundation upon
which to base a commercial product.  Progeny looks forward to continued
collaboration with the Free Software community and the Debian Project.

[1] Netscape Communicator 4.76 is the only exception to this rule; it is
included due to its continuing popularity and inertia, with freely-licensed
graphical web browsers (such as Mozilla and Konqueror, both available with
Progeny Debian) only recently able to compete favorably in terms of
stability and feature set.

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Re: Progeny Debian 1.0 released

2001-04-09 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 05:53:14PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
 Previously Branden Robinson wrote:
  Media Contact:
  Aaron Stenhoff
  Progeny Linux Systems, Inc.
  (317) 833-0313 (ext. 137)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 So, do we get $1k for posting an advertisement now?

Just out of curiousity, has the $1000 that Progeny donated to Debian been
deposited yet?

Progeny is freely available for download.  This is noted in the
announcement.  Does that constitute spam?

Progeny has a full Debian mirror with a significant amount of bandwidth
that may be useful to North American users.  This is noted in the
announcement.  Does that constitute spam?

When I announce experimental .debs of XFree86, does that constitute spam?

Since this message is mentioning all of the above, does it constitute spam?

 In addition to providing Progeny Debian, the archive.progeny.com site hosts
 a full mirror of the Debian package archives.  We welcome downloads of
 Debian and Progeny Debian alike.

If you think the announcement is nothing but spam/crap/BS, send Progeny a
bill.

If you don't ever want announcements from Progeny on any subject posted to
any Debian mailing list ever again, speak up now.

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[olly@lfix.co.uk: Question re DGA extension]

2001-04-04 Thread Branden Robinson
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From: Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Question re DGA extension
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 12:00:24 +0100
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hallo,

I'm running xserver-xfree86 4.0.2-13 on a Matrox Millenium card

I'm trying to discover how to enable DGA (of whose lack Vmware is
complaining), but I haven't yet found much that is relevant on the web
and nothing at all in any Debian documentation, except the dga program
in xbase-clients.

I see that Connectiva have an rpm for Matrox cards for 4.0.1.  Is this
likely to help? (but if so, why isn't there a Debian version?) or do I need 
do something in XF86Config-4?

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[yoush@cs.msu.su: A question about Debain xdm package]

2001-04-01 Thread Branden Robinson
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From: Nikita V.Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: A question about Debain xdm package
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 16:19:51 +0400
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello, Branden

Many people in comp.windows.x.kde newsgroup report that when they start 
terminal windows under their KDE sessions, they find that the variables 
that are exported in their /etc/profile and ~/.bash_profile, are not set.

The problem is that when user logins with xdm (or some xdm replacement), 
no login shell is run. Seems to be a bug.

Several distributoins are affected, including Debian.

It could be fixed by changing the first line in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession from
#!/bin/sh
to
#!/bin/bash --login

Maybe this fix shoul go to the xdm package ?

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[alex.bongers@phil.uu.nl: abiword does not find fonts]

2001-03-12 Thread Branden Robinson
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From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: abiword does not find fonts
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:08:37 +0100
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

hi branden,

i seem to have thesame problem, have you had any luck correcting this
problem yet?
i use redhat7

thanx,
cheers,
alex.


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[amshey@thecia.net: X4 Feedback]

2001-03-08 Thread Branden Robinson
Can someone help this person please?

- Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: X4 Feedback
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:23:10 -0500
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hullo there,
  Many thanks for being crazy enough to maintain the X debs.
  I recently 'upgraded' to testing + X4, and had the following problems:
On build in archives on 3/5/2001:

No XF86Config-4 file created (even though I was asked questions by X4 that 
were like xf86config)
xf86config ran and created XF86Config-4, but this file claimed to be unable 
to get video modes.
Changing driver in XF86Config-4 to 'nv' (I have Creative 3DBlaster with 
Nvidia chipset) made X
work when called as XF86Config.

Neither xdm nor startx succeed; they wait forever for Xserver to start 
accepting connections.
.xsession files seem not to be executed, probably because I am calling X 
directly. 

  I hope this is not useless information, but I also cannot find anywhere on 
your X Strike Force website
  a mention of how severe of a problem should be reported to you, or where it 
should be reported, or what
  forum to watch for more information.. I think that a short list of 'known 
problems' and 'when/where to 
  talk/listen'would get you more useful information from testers.

  Happy Hacking! 

--Chris



   
   
   

 

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[ze_mil@club-internet.fr: X error]

2001-03-06 Thread Branden Robinson
Would someone help this user for me?

- Forwarded message from Laurent Dubois [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

From: Laurent Dubois [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: X error
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


   Hello,
   
   
   
   
   
   I'm a french Debian user and I've just reinstall my system (kernel
   2.4.1).
   
   But after installing Xfree86 4.0.2, I got a problem when I tried to
   launch it :
   
   
   
   X : cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), abording.
   
   
   
   I don't know what is the problem so I ask you if you can help me.
   
   
   
   Thank you,
   
   Laurent

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[tallison@phoenixdsl.com: XFree4.0.2 upgrade problem]

2001-03-06 Thread Branden Robinson
, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 XInput Driver
ABI class: XFree86 XInput driver, version 0.1
(II) APM: driver for the Alliance chipsets: AP6422, AT24, AT3D
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0
(EE) No devices detected.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send
the full server output, not just the last messages.
This can be found in the log file /var/log/XFree86.0.log.
Please report problems to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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[sgaerner@gmx.net: ]

2001-02-26 Thread Branden Robinson
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From: Sven Gaerner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hi Branden,

I tried to install XFree86 Version 4.0.2 on a Potato system.
Unfortunately apt/dselect does not upgrade xbase-client, so I'm not able to
run X.
When I run 'apt-get update' the status line begins with an 'Ign'. There seems
to be a problem because this package is not upgraded.

Do you have an idea how to solve this?

Here are my /etc/apt/sources.list lines
deb http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/ xf402_potato/i386/
deb http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/ xf402_potato/all/
I copied these lines from your email to the X mailing list.

Thanks in advance.

Bye,

Sven

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Re: [thrawn01@mindspring.com: Bug ?]

2001-02-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 08:28:09PM -0500, admiral thrawn wrote:
 I guess this means the Maintainer couldn't help me ..

It means I am not a user support list, so I forwarded your mail to one.

 You might not think so but.
 I have a funny feeling you will be receaving a patch from me soon.

If it's a good patch, I'll accept it.  If not, I won't.

 Then agian might be wrong...
 Please excuse my ramblings. I'm pissed right now. 

I am one person.  Many people read debian-user, and many of them would be
happy to help you.  Odds are you'll get a faster, better answer from there.

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[thrawn01@mindspring.com: Bug ?]

2001-02-23 Thread Branden Robinson
- Forwarded message from admiral thrawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

From: admiral thrawn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Bug ?
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


   $ apt-get upgrade
   
   
   
   ( installed xserver-common 4.0.2-4 )
   
   
   
   $ startx
   
   
   
   Unable to stat ( /etc/X11/X ) File not found aborting.
   
   
   
   I ran xinit, and /usr/X11R6/bin/X both with the same error.
   
   
   
   there is no. /etc/X11/bin/X the only X I have is in 
   /usr/X11R6/bin/X 
   
   
   
   I could run /usr//X11R6/bin/SVGA_{SERVER} ( what ever it's called, I'm
   in windows right now. cause I dunno  have time to set up pine and
   sendmail.. And I don't wan't to stay in windows for long... GRIN )
   
   of couse it had no Xterm. so i could n't get anything running.
   
   
   
   Somthing is wrong with the wrappers ( I beleave that is the correct
   term. )
   
   startx,xinit all seam to eventually call /usr/X11R6/bin/X and that is
   part of your package.
   
   
   
   I tried downgrading to Xserver-common 3. somthin. but I have to
   uninstall have the packages on my system to do it.
   
   
   
   Anypointers ? is this a config bug ? or somthing missing.?
   
   
   
   Thanks for any Help. I'll keep looking , notify you if i find
   anything.

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[jimg@cray.com: X can't find font 'fixed' and I'm going nuts!]

2001-02-23 Thread Branden Robinson
- Forwarded message from Jim Gale [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

From: Jim Gale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: X can't find font 'fixed' and I'm going nuts!
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm getting a weird message from X when I try to start it:

Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed'

I get this error with both XF4 and Xf3. It first appeared with 4.0.2-4
(but it could be unrelated to the version) and now I'm at 4.0.2-7.  The
people on #debian seemed to be familiar with this as being a symptom of
an incorrectly installed xfonts-base. I tried several times to
uninstall xfonts*, xserver*, xfree* and reinstall them. It didn't
help.  I removed all packages related to X and deleted the remaining
/etc/X11 and /usr/X11R6 cruft and then re-installed everything. Didn't
help. (yeah, I was desperate.)

I've checked and monkeyed endlessly with /etc/X11/XF86Config* to try
and get it to work. Same thing every time. My package database is
up-to-date and doesn't have any problems that I can see.

So in desperation I am emailing you hoping that you might have an idea
about what might be wrong or where I could turn to for help.

I'm including the /var/log/XFree86.0.log in case you think it might be
useful.

Thanks for any help you can provide and also for providing me with a
(mostly) excellent operating system,

Jim




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Re: [jimg@cray.com: X can't find font 'fixed' and I'm going nuts!]

2001-02-23 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 10:39:01PM -0700, Jimmy Richards wrote:
 Hello There Branden,
 
 Try installing 'xfs'. Hurry, hurry... get your xfs now while they're hot!
 hehe
 
 All joking aside hope that helps. Here's what I got installed
 
 xfonts-100dpi
 xfonts-75dpi (although i'm just using the 100dpi)
 xfonts-base
 xfonts-scalable
 xfs

Er, thanks for the help, but I think you might have missed the fact that I
forwarded the message from another person.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the person to
whom you should reply.

It was mailed to me directly, since some people seem to think they will get
help faster and better if they mail a package maintainer privately.

BTW, with the default X configurations generated by dexconf in unstable,
installing the X font server should not be necessary.  But I suspect the
person who mailed me was not using a dexconf-generated file, but possibly
some hand-rolled one, with problems.

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Re: XFree Packages

2000-12-31 Thread Branden Robinson
Klaus, please direct your questions to debian-user.

On Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 03:27:07PM +0100, Klaus Naumann wrote:
 
 Ugh, I was that close :/
 
 dh_shlibdeps -Nxlibs --exclude=usr/X11R6/lib/modules
 dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: could not find path for libXaw.so.7
 dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: could not find path for libXaw.so.7
 dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: could not find path for libXaw.so.7
 BUG IN DYNAMIC LINKER
 ld.so: dl-version.c: 217: _dl_check_map_versions: Assertion `needed !=
 ((void
 *)0)' failed!
 dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: ldd on
 `debian/xbase-clients/usr/X11R6/bin/glxinfo' gave error exit status
 1
 dh_shlibdeps: command returned error code
 make: *** [debian/stampdir/binary-arch] Error 1
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/X4/xfree86-4.0.2# ldd 
 debian/xbase-clients/usr/X11R6/bin/glxinfo
 BUG IN DYNAMIC LINKER
 ld.so: dl-version.c: 217: _dl_check_map_versions: Assertion `needed !=
 ((void
 *)0)' failed!
 
 Is there any work around for that ? Do I need to build the package
 again now (it took over 5 hours even on that machine ...) ??
 
   CU, Klaus
 
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[hugovdm@mail.com: Re: XF86Setup: how are the Modelines generated?]

2000-09-16 Thread Branden Robinson
I forwarded the initial question to debian-user, I might as well send this
as well.

- Forwarded message from Hugo van der Merwe [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

From: Hugo van der Merwe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: XF86Setup: how are the Modelines generated?
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 17:07:48 +0200
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In-reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from hugo on
 Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 12:37:48PM +0200
Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i

On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 12:37:48PM +0200, hugo wrote:
 XF86Setup generates invalid modelines on my machine. They all (all
 resolutions up to 1024x768) have dotclocks of 65.15, which is only valid
 for 1024x768. The test performed just before saving the config file,
 works perfectly - why does the config file not match this test?

To sort-of answer my own question: I think this is related to the fact
that I have a laptop, and the way an LCD screen works. I'm trying to
find out more about it now. (It would help to know how XF86Setup gets
its modelines - I think xvidtune does the same, it also gets invalid
mode lines...)

Maybe laptops do not use hsync or vsync at all - and the lct always
expects 65.15 dotclock, and the card always gives this - the only
problem is that the modes appear invalid because of hsync or vsync
settings? I am speculating, and have too little knowledge on the matter
to know whether I am uttering rubbish.

I'll continue my quest for better laptop support on the debian-laptop
mailing list. Thanks,
Hugo van der Merwe

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[hugovdm@mail.com: XF86Setup: how are the Modelines generated?]

2000-09-15 Thread Branden Robinson
Would someone like to help this gentleman, or instruct him on bug-filing
procedures?

- Forwarded message from Hugo van der Merwe [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

From: Hugo van der Merwe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: XF86Setup: how are the Modelines generated?
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:37:48 +0200
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i

Hello,

XF86Setup generates invalid modelines on my machine. They all (all
resolutions up to 1024x768) have dotclocks of 65.15, which is only valid
for 1024x768. The test performed just before saving the config file,
works perfectly - why does the config file not match this test?

Thanks,
Hugo van der Merwe

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[krs@hsv.tybrin.com: Deb 2.2 - startx works, xdm and gdm don't]

2000-08-25 Thread Branden Robinson
Can someone help this person, please?

- Forwarded message from Karl Sackett [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

From: Karl Sackett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Deb 2.2 - startx works, xdm and gdm don't
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 14:38:59 -0500
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i

I've installed Debian 2.2 on a workstation and I'm having problems
getting X to work properly.  I've gone through the docs, config files,
and the Debian mailing list archives, but I can't find anything that
points out what my problem is.

When I start the X server with startx everything works fine.  When I
try logging in through xdm the session fails and the following
messages appear in .xsession-errors:

Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
xrdb: Can't open display ':0'
Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
xmodmap:  unable to open display ':0'
Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
/usr/bin/X11/WindowMaker fatal error: could not open display :0

I get similar messages when I use gdm instead of xdm.  These are all
clean installations -- the only file I've modified is XF86config and
everything else works fine X-wise if I use startx.

Do you have any ideas about where my problem is?  I'll appreciate
any help you can give me.  Thanks.

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[ykarant@csci.csusb.edu: xdm potato wm no go]

2000-08-17 Thread Branden Robinson
Can someone help this person, please?

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From: Dr. Yasha Karant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: xdm potato wm no go
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 12:16:57 -0700 (PDT)
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)]
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mr. Robinson (Branden?),

I am sending you this email based on the
email headers from bug report 66422 as the
xdm maintainer for Debian.  I have just
upgraded to potato (2.2) and a new (binary
image distribution) kernel (2.2.17).

xdm *REFUSES* to exec my wm (fvwm which was
formerly known as fvwm2).  When I login via
a regular scrolling terminal screen (e.g., screen
on F5), and issue a startx  command (the  is
background mode in tcsh), everything works.
(That is, everything works after I login as root
and issue a /etc/init.d/xdm stop command so that
startx can grab the normal :0 screen on F7).

I have a .xsession file in my $HOME and also in /root
just in case xdm wants to default there.  I have done
a strings on xdm (binary) to find what it is using,
but to no avail.

Any assistance as to how to configure xdm so that it works
would be appreciated.

One note:  when I installed potato (upgrade from slink), I did
permit the xbanner; is this the cautionary no warranty
Debian message that appears via startx but not via xdm?

The script file from the upgrade that seems relevant to X
appears below for your information.

Thanks for *ANY* assistance; this was working fine under
slink and kernel 2.0.36 .

Yasha Karant
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Setting up xbanner (1.31-16) ...

Xbanner configuration
-

A popular use of xbanner is to make it run when xdm is run, to beautify
the xdm login screen. I can modify some files to make this work, if you
want.

Should I modify xdm files to make xbanner be launched on xdm startup? [Y/n] 
Xdm files modified to run xbanner.

Setting up xbase-clients (3.3.6-10) ...
Installing new version of config file /etc/X11/Xmodmap ...
Setting up xfonts-100dpi (3.3.6-2) ...
Running mkfontdir in 100dpi font directory...done.
Running update-fonts-alias in 100dpi font directory...done.

Setting up xfonts-75dpi (3.3.6-2) ...
Running mkfontdir in 75dpi font directory...done.
Running update-fonts-alias in 75dpi font directory...done.

Setting up xfonts-base (3.3.6-2) ...
Running mkfontdir in misc font directory...done.
Running update-fonts-alias in misc font directory...done.

Setting up xfonts-scalable (3.3.6-2) ...
Running update-fonts-scale in Speedo font directory...done.
Running mkfontdir in Speedo font directory...done.
Running update-fonts-scale in Type1 font directory...done.
Running mkfontdir in Type1 font directory...done.

Setting up xbmbrowser (5.1-6) ...
Setting up xcal (4.1-8) ...

Setting up xcolorsel (1.1a-8) ...

Setting up xcontrib (3.3.3.1-0.1) ...

Setting up xdaliclock (2.18-4) ...

Setting up xdm (3.3.6-10) ...
Installing new version of config file /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess ...
Installing new version of config file /etc/X11/xdm/Xreset_0 ...
Installing new version of config file /etc/X11/xdm/Xresources ...
Installing new version of config file /etc/X11/xdm/Xresources_0 ...

Configuration file `/etc/X11/xdm/Xservers'
 == File on system created by you or by a script.
 == File also in package provided by package maintainer.
   What would you like to do about it ?  Your options are:
Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version
N or O  : keep your currently-installed version
  D : show the differences between the versions
  Z : background this process to examine the situation
 The default action is to keep your current version.
*** Xservers (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ? 

Configuration file `/etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0'
 == File on system created by you or by a script.
 == File also in package provided by package maintainer.
   What would you like to do about it ?  Your options are:
Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version
N or O  : keep your currently-installed version
  D : show the differences between the versions
  Z : background this process to examine the situation
 The default action is to keep your current version.
*** Xsetup_0 (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ? 

Configuration file `/etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup'
 == File on system created by you or by a script.
 == File also in package provided by package maintainer.
   What would you like to do about it ?  Your options are:
Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version
N or O  : keep your currently-installed version
  D : show the differences between the versions
  Z : background this process to examine the situation
 The default action is to keep your current version.
*** Xstartup (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ? 
Installing new version of config file /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config ...
Installing new version of config file /etc/X11/xdm/xdm.options ...
Installing new version of config

IMPORNTANT FIX: Having weird X problems? Wheel mouse or xterm keys not working right?

2000-06-02 Thread Branden Robinson
Okay, okay, half a dozen bug reports about this is enough.  The reading in of X
resource files got broken in 3.3.6-7.  Sorry.  And I offer an apology to Lars
Wirzenius.  Yes, sometimes the damnedest things DO happen... :)

Please stop filing bugs about this.  I know about the problem and the fix is
in place for -8.

For those of you who can't wait, here it is.  (Also MIME-attached.)

--- /etc/X11/Xsession.broken   Mon May 29 23:54:52 2000
+++ /etc/X11/Xsession Wed May 31 01:21:01 2000
@@ -78,11 +78,13 @@
 esac
 
 if [ -d $sysresources ]; then
-  if [ $(echo $sysresources/*) != $sysresources/* ]; then
-for resourcefile in $(echo $sysresources/* 2 /dev/null | egrep 
'^[-/_[:alnum:]]*$'); do
-  xrdb -merge $resourcefile
-done
-  fi
+  for resourcefile in $sysresources/*; do
+if [ -f $resourcefile ]; then
+  if expr $resourcefile : '.*/[:alnum:_-]*'  /dev/null 21; then
+xrdb -merge $resourcefile
+  fi
+fi
+  done
 fi
 
 if [ -x /usr/bin/X11/xmodmap ]; then

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--- /etc/X11/Xsession   Mon May 29 23:54:52 2000
+++ xfree86-common/Xsession Wed May 31 01:21:01 2000
@@ -78,11 +78,13 @@
 esac
 
 if [ -d $sysresources ]; then
-  if [ $(echo $sysresources/*) != $sysresources/* ]; then
-for resourcefile in $(echo $sysresources/* 2 /dev/null | egrep 
'^[-/_[:alnum:]]*$'); do
-  xrdb -merge $resourcefile
-done
-  fi
+  for resourcefile in $sysresources/*; do
+if [ -f $resourcefile ]; then
+  if expr $resourcefile : '.*/[:alnum:_-]*'  /dev/null 21; then
+xrdb -merge $resourcefile
+  fi
+fi
+  done
 fi
 
 if [ -x /usr/bin/X11/xmodmap ]; then


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Re: Long time Debian user with semi-technical question

2000-04-26 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Apr 25, 2000 at 12:02:36AM -0400, Andrew Weiss wrote:
 I have been using Debian since the old A.out days of Debian 1.0, and I was

A remark like this makes me wonder if you REALLY WERE a user back then.  :)

1) There was no Debian 1.0.  InfoMagic saw to that.
2) The first official Debian release (1.1 or buzz) was ELF-based.
3) The previous numbered version, 0.93R6, was a.out-based.

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Re: END Key in Emacs (only in Xterm)

2000-04-03 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 07:50:31PM -0300, Rodrigo Castro wrote:
 Hello Branden,
 
 On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 05:07:11PM -0400, Branden Robinson wrote:
  On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 10:48:24AM -0300, Rodrigo Castro wrote:
 Sorry for sending this message again and sorry for sending to
   devel (I don't know if I should). I really need your help, I tried
   everything I know and I can't make my Emacs work with END key, when it
   is in Xterm.
  
  If you're using xterm 3.3.6-6, please be sure and read the Debian X FAQ.
  There is a section about debugging key binding problems.
  
  file:/usr/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz
 
   I had already read it. If I change TERM variable to linux, it
 works. Look at what is returned by these commands (xev reports
 everything fine):

infocmp xterm linux reveals that kend is defined the same for both
terminal types, and the default xterm Xresources file explicitly binds the
End key to ESC [ 4 ~.  If xemacs can't handle that I suggest you contact
its package maintainer.

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Re: END Key in Emacs (only in Xterm)

2000-04-02 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 10:48:24AM -0300, Rodrigo Castro wrote:
   Sorry for sending this message again and sorry for sending to
 devel (I don't know if I should). I really need your help, I tried
 everything I know and I can't make my Emacs work with END key, when it
 is in Xterm.

If you're using xterm 3.3.6-6, please be sure and read the Debian X FAQ.
There is a section about debugging key binding problems.

file:/usr/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz

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Re: ATTN: pjw@edmc.net

2000-04-01 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 09:45:35AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 03:55:39AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
  I suggest you close bugs filed by such people without comment.
  Call it the Malicious Blacklist User Behavior Modification System.
 
 Of course, you could always just get the work done and email back
 to [EMAIL PROTECTED]; since it'll go through Debian the
 email will indeed arrive just fine.

Blacklisters may have the right to speak and *say* what they think I should
do, but they have no right to be heard.

If you have the right to refuse to listen to me on my terms, I have the
right to refuse to listen to you on yours.

  There are many options available for blacklist-employing Debian users that
  require only minimal additional effort on their part.  If they are using an
  ISP that employs the DUL and have no ability to opt out of it, perhaps they
  should explore using a different ISP.  There are lots of them, you know.
 
 That's pretty hypocritical coming from you lot who claim you can't find
 another ISP -- you're the ones with the broken ISP after all.
 
 My regualr email address rejects on RSS, RBL and DUL (I configured
 it that way myself) -- you can still email me at debian.org just fine though.

You have a staggering inability to perceive rhetorical congruence.

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Re: ATTN: pjw@edmc.net

2000-04-01 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 04:02:43PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
 You should at the very least mention why you're closing the bug report.
 It may, for example, be the case that user is unaware that their usual
 mail system uses the DUL or whatever.  Randomly closed bugreports will
 just annoy people without actually helping them realise that you find 
 yourself unable to talk to them and what they can do to work around this
 situation.

Did you bother to read my close message?  Obviously not.  I did in fact
include an explanation of why I was closing the bug.

 Not that I would advocate doing this in the first place.

Fine; if you want to have a conversation with people who refuse to listen
to you, that's your right.  I see communication as a bidirectional process,
however.

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Re: ATTN: pjw@edmc.net

2000-03-31 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 01:50:09PM -0800, Joseph Carter wrote:
 If you wish to email me about any of my packages, do so from an address
 which does not reject my mail as coming from a dialup IP.  My IP is
 STATIC and your ISP is run by morons who can't tell the difference, even
 though I am no longer listed on the DUL.  I am attempting once and once
 only to reach you via the lists.  I will not attempt to do so in the
 future.  Mail me from an ISP with a clue in the future if you'd like a
 reply.

I suggest you close bugs filed by such people without comment.

Call it the Malicious Blacklist User Behavior Modification System.

If they don't want to communicate with package maintainers, they have
several options for getting their problems resolved:

  1) they can obtain an email address at a place that doesn't use the DUL;
  2) they can file the bug through a friend who doesn't use the DUL;
  3) they can fix the problem themselves and post the fix to debian-devel.

There are many options available for blacklist-employing Debian users that
require only minimal additional effort on their part.  If they are using an
ISP that employs the DUL and have no ability to opt out of it, perhaps they
should explore using a different ISP.  There are lots of them, you know.

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Re: XFree 3.3.6 SOUND problem (?)

2000-03-26 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Mar 26, 2000 at 12:28:08PM +, Esdras Beleza de Noronha wrote:
 I'm having a very, very strange problem with XFree 3.3.6.
 
 I have a SiS 6326 (it uses the XF86_SVGA server) and  a CMI 8330/SB16
 soundcard, and they're configured.
 When I run X using the 16 bpp resolution, my sound is very, very bad,
 with creaks. But when I run it using 8 bpp, the sound is very good.
 
 I tried ask this to half Linux community, but nobody gave me a solution.
 Can you help me?

Perhaps someone else on debian-user could share their experiences with this
person?

The only thing I can think of that is that whatever you're doing in 16bpp
puts more demands on the host processor than 8bpp mode.  This is definitely
going to be true in situations where the host CPU does a lot of blitting
to the framebuffer by hand.  This might happen in 2D games, for instance,
where there are a lot of refresh events.

Other than that, I really have no idea.  There is currently no defined
standard for interfacing a sound server of any sort with the X server.
(There probably should be, but life is short and art is long.)

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Re: Bash, Keys, Potato

2000-03-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 06:17:21PM -0300, Rodrigo Castro wrote:
   I started with no .inputrc, no /etc/profile, no /etc/inputrc
 and even so I had problems with letter E (upcase only). Any idea? Even
 with no setup, no config files, I get no success. I upgraded my
 libreadline4 today and it didn't work either. 

Hmm, since you are from brazil you might not be used a key layout 100%
identical to a North American keyboard.

You may have fallen victim to Yann Dirson's 100%-bug-free console-data
package.

Install the kbd package, and from the console (not X), use the showkey
command to determine what scan code is being generated by the E key.  If
none, you either have a hardware problem or a kernel problem.  Otherwise,
your console keymap is messed up and you should file a bug against the
console-data package.

Don't feel bad; Yann Dirson has the default keymap set to some French thing
-- this affects every Debian user in the world, and most of the world isn't
France.  I guess some people take the figurative expression lingua franca
too literally.  :)

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Re: Bug#60891: xdm: Installs default tty7 line in Xservers -- breaks system

2000-03-22 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 04:11:44PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Package: xdm
 Version: N/A
 Severity: critical

I don't appreciate critical bug reports that reveal such profound ignorance
of the Debian system in general, and of the xdm package specifically.

 When installed with apt-get xdm postinst inserts a default line in
 /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers of ':0 local /usr/bin/X11/X vt7' if instructed to
 handle a local session.

It does no such thing.  You obviously didn't bother to read the postinst
script, so here it is.

#!/bin/sh
# Debian xdm package post-installation script
# Copyright 1998-2000 Branden Robinson.
# Licensed under the GNU General Public License, version 2.  See the file
# /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL or http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.txt.
# Acknowlegements to Stephen Early, Mark Eichin, and Manoj Srivastava.

set -e

cleanup () {
  # unroll changes in xdm preinst
  for file in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-config; do
if [ -e $file.xdm-old ]; then
  rm $file
  mv $file.xdm-old $file
fi
  done
  /etc/init.d/xdm start
}

# TODO comment out these two functions for stable release
maplink () {
  # returns what symlink should point to
  case $1 in
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-config) echo /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config ;;
  esac;
}

readlink () {
  # perl kludge until readlink(1) from tetex-bin is moved into an essential 
package
  # returns what symlink actually points to
  perl -e '$l = shift; exit 1 unless -l $l; $r = readlink $l; exit 1 unless $r; 
print $r\n' $1;
}

trap echo ;\
  echo 'Received signal.  Aborting configuration of xdm package.' ;\
  echo -n 'Cleaning up...' ;\
  cleanup ;\
  echo 'done.' ;\
  echo ;\
  exit 1 1 2 3 15

case $1 in
  configure) ;;
  abort-upgrade|abort-remove|abort-deconfigure)
cleanup
exit 0 ;;
  *)
echo ERROR: xdm postinst called with unknown argument \$1\.
echo Aborting configuration of xdm package.
echo -n Cleaning up...
cleanup
echo done.
exit 1 ;;
esac

condecho=:

# TODO sanity checks -- comment out these for stable release
for symlink in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-config; do
  if [ -L $symlink ]; then
if [ $(maplink $symlink) != $(readlink $symlink) ]; then
  $condecho
  echo ERROR: $symlink symbolic link points to the wrong
  echo place.  Please report this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED].
  condecho=echo
fi
  elif [ -e $symlink ]; then
$condecho
echo ERROR: $symlink is not a symbolic link.
echo Please report this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED].
condecho=echo
  else
$condecho
echo ERROR: $symlink symbolic link does not exist.
echo Please report this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED].
condecho=echo
  fi
done

if [ -d /usr/doc -a ! -e /usr/doc/xdm -a -d /usr/share/doc/xdm ]; then
  ln -sf ../share/doc/xdm /usr/doc/xdm
fi

# deal with a bug in very old versions of xbase
for dir in rc0.d rc1.d rc6.d; do
  if [ -L etc/$dir/K1xdm ]; then
mv /etc/$dir/K1xdm /etc/$dir/K01xdm
  fi
done

# don't start xdm if we're currently in X on the display it attempts
# to manage by default
nostart=
xdm_running=
for hostname in  localhost $(hostname) $(hostname -f); do
  if echo $DISPLAY | grep -q ^$hostname:0.*; then
nostart=yes
  fi
done
# or if it's already running
if start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --signal 0 --pid /var/run/xdm.pid --exec 
/usr/bin/X11/xdm; then
  nostart=yes
  xdm_running=yes
fi
# or if the options file says not to
if ! grep -qs ^restart-on-upgrade /etc/X11/xdm/xdm.options; then
  nostart=yes
fi

update-rc.d xdm defaults 99 01  /dev/null 21

if [ $xdm_running ]; then
  if [ -d /var/state/xdm ]; then
$condecho
echo Note: obsolete directory /var/state/xdm cannot be removed because xdm 
is still
echo running.  Reinstall the xdm package (or remove the directory 
manually) when xdm
echo is not running.
condecho=echo
  fi
else
  if [ -d /var/state/xdm ]; then
rm -r /var/state/xdm
  fi
fi

[ $nostart ] || /etc/init.d/xdm start || true

exit

 This will cause ANY system that has 'login'
 running on vt7 to break. In the instance of login running on the vt
 that xdm attempts to start on, ALL keyboard input is disabled. Mouse
 events work fine, but one is unable to enter a username/password.
 If the system is not network connected to allow killing xdm from
 remote a HARD reset is required and the system must be started in
 SINGLE mode in order to correct the error.

If YOU had READ the FAQ that is shipped with ALL Debian installations of the
X WINDOW SYSTEM, you would KNOW that this problem is WELL-KNOWN about and
that there is a WELL-KNOWN FIX.

You'd also UNDERSTAND that because /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers is a CONFFILE,
your CHANGES to the file, such as NOT STARTING AN X SERVER ON VT 7, are
RESPECTED during upgrades; if the upstream version has changed AND you have
MODIFIED your version, then you are ASKED which version you want to
install.  You are EXPLICITLY given the OPTION of KEEPING YOUR VERSION of
the file.  In FACT

Re: Bug#60891: xdm: Installs default tty7 line in Xservers -- break s system

2000-03-22 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 01:33:38AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Note to the other two maintainers. Branden has closed the bug I
 submitted. Based on the information he provided to me in his message I
 feel that you also should close the bugs I submitted against gdm and
 wdm. They should possibly be re-submitted at a lesser severity, but not
 as critical. Please read my message below and determine for yourself.
 
 Branden, I've just subscribed to debian-users and have yet to get any
 messages after my confirmation. Please feel free to forward this if my
 CC dosn't go through.
 
 Hmm, Just re-read my bug-report message. Used too much cut/paste to post
 the three reports. As stated in the final paragraph, I do NOT have xdm
 installed right now, I have wdm. So I relied on the fact that all 3
 packages defaulted to tty7 and that it is applied by the wdm.postinst
 script...

Thank you for your calm reply to my very aggravated message.  I did in
fact download the sources to the standard getty program that we use and
started poking around for a solution.

I don't know if we'll be able to implement a final solution to this problem
in time for the potato release (which will hopefully be soon), but here's
what I think:

1) Modifying /etc/inittab would be a bad idea because it's a very sensitive
   thing; if a buggy package screws it up you may be very, very sorry.
2) I think a better approach would be to modify the X server and console
   getty programs to use lock files on the console devices.  I'll want to
   chat with some people I trust about file locking issues (say, MDA
   maintainers :) ) before starting to hack on this.  I guess this solution
   would go for programs like openvt as well.  It would ultimately become
   Policy, but first I want to have a workable solution in place.

I did some experimenting this evening and I've found that no programs seem
to have any respect for any others when it comes to pouncing on a VC.
getty will step on X, X will step on getty, X will step on X, etc.

Permit me to *beseech* the other display manager maintainers to not modify
the conffiles of another package, if that's what you're doing.  I expect
[gkw]dm to have their own config directories under /etc/X11/ and not fool
with mine.  I would do you the same courtesy, and besides, policy says you
shouldn't.  :)

Anyway, anyone who wants to work on this issue should subscribe to debian-x
and help hash it out.

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[ga5in@psu.edu: DGA support]

2000-03-18 Thread Branden Robinson
Can someone help this gentleman out?

- Forwarded message from Gavin Burris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

From: Gavin Burris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: DGA support
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:32:13 +
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686)
X-Accept-Language: en, ja, zh

Could you give me a pointer to more documentation on DGA support.
I'm trying to get full screen to work with VCDs.
I tried running dga and got this:

X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
  Major opcode of failed request:  78 (X_CreateColormap)
  Serial number of failed request:  12
  Current serial number in output stream:  269


Thank you for your time,
-- 
--=[ Gavin Warfield Burris aka 86 ]=--
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- End forwarded message -

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Re: So, what's up with the XFree86 4.0 .debs?

2000-03-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Mar 12, 2000 at 07:06:19PM -0800, Alex Romosan wrote:
 the problem is with curses.h in libncurses5-dev. it redefines ERR and
 as such it conflicts with the definition from the glibc headers. this
 was the same problem noticed in dpkg 1.6.10. i just commented out the
 redefinition of ERR in /usr/include/curses.h and then the X package
 compiled just  fine. i am sure the proper solution is the one used in
 dpkg-1.6.11 though.

Hmm.  I am using the following patch, which I got from slashdot of all
places:

--- xc/config/makedepend/cppsetup.c.origSun Mar 12 15:47:41 2000
+++ xc/config/makedepend/cppsetup.c Sun Mar 12 15:48:21 2000
@@ -188,7 +188,7 @@
return 0;
 do {
var = (*s)-s_value;
-   if (!isvarfirstletter(*var))
+   if (!isvarfirstletter(*var) || !strcmp((*s)-s_name, var))
break;
s = lookup_variable (ip, var, strlen(var));
 } while (s);

It did seem to fix the problem.  If someone who understands cppsetup.c
could comment and it turns out that this patch doesn't in fact disable some
feature of cppsetup, I will submit this patch to XFree86.

Anyway, XFree86 4.0 built without errors on a potato system and I am
basically deep in the guts of it right now, figuring out how I need to
break it up for packaging.

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Re: So, what's up with the XFree86 4.0 .debs?

2000-03-12 Thread Branden Robinson
Today's news flash: omitted words can really change the meaning of a sentence.

On Sun, Mar 12, 2000 at 01:16:55PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
 They're not available yet, so I am sending this message to apprise Debian
 users my fellow developers of the situation.

...users AND my fellow developers...

 These packages will be highly, HIGHLY experimental, and I will make any
 effort to support smooth upgrades between them.

...and I will NOT make any effort...

Also, in case it was unclear in my previous mail, I have no plans to
support full versions of XFree86 3.3.x and 4.x in the same Debian release.
By the time official 4.0 .debs are ready, it is my hope that the legacy
chipsets currently only supported in 3.3.x will be supported in 4.x as
well.  3.3.x libc5-compatibility libraries will be provided for i386 and
m68k per my previous mail until and unless consensus is reached that this
support should be dropped.

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RFC: NO, THE X SERVERS SHOULD NOT DEPEND ON XFONTS-BASE

2000-02-25 Thread Branden Robinson
In a stressful time like freeze, it is really aggravating to deal with the
nonstop trickle of people who tell me that because *THEIR* system is
broken, I need to add a DEPENDENCY on xfonts-base to all the X servers, or
to xserver-common.

This is WRONG.  Utterly, completely, and totally WRONG.

There's more than one way the get font services to the X server.
Installing fonts locally is only one of them.

If anybody has any suggestions that would get this fact through cluebies'
thick skulls that doesn't:
  1) require me to dick with the package interrelationships
  2) isn't documentation, since the people who report this problem can't
 be bothered to read any (the Debian X FAQ, the xserver-common package
 description)
  3) will not inconvenience users who already know what's going on, or
 understand the concept of a font server
I'd very much appreciate hearing these suggestions.  Please DON'T send them
directly to me; send them to debian-x@lists.debian.org instead so they can
be considered and discussed by a number of people.

People who don't have a handle on the issues involved need not reply to
this message.  I'm looking for suggestions from people who know what
they're talking about, and who understand that Debian is a distribution
that refuses to compromise its flexibity for the sake of less-knowledgeable
users.  We need intelligent solutions that hold the newbie's hand without
hamstringing the wizard.

Thanks in advance for any intelligent suggestions.

I'm Cc'ing the xviddetect package maintainer because there may be a way to
work a question about font services into anXious (this is the X-configuring
component of the new install system for potato).  If the user doesn't
understand the question, then we should default to piling fonts on his
machine.  The penalty for ignorance is reduced free space on the drive.  :)

N.B.: I am no longer subscribed to debian-user, so I will not see messages
posted only to this list.

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Re: RFC: NO, THE X SERVERS SHOULD NOT DEPEND ON XFONTS-BASE

2000-02-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 07:16:24PM +1100, Brian May wrote:
  Branden == Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Branden In a stressful time like freeze, it is really aggravating
 Branden to deal with the nonstop trickle of people who tell me
 Branden that because *THEIR* system is broken, I need to add a
 Branden DEPENDENCY on xfonts-base to all the X servers, or to
 Branden xserver-common.
 
 I might be on the wrong foot here... 
 
 However, you already have a program that checks /etc/XF86Config for
 errors before xdm starts (gdm doesn't use it, so I can't check).

Minor point: it's /etc/X11/XF86Config for Debian, not /etc/XF86Config

Major point: The program you refer is parse-xf86config, and it is going
away in 3.3.6-4; no one has time to keep it up to date with the myriad
bizarre options (some undocumented) that XF86Config uses.  I've already
removed it from my development tree for 3.3.6-4.  Besides, the reason for
its existence (to prevent xdm from starting and looping on a broken
XF86Config) has been otherwise addressed for quite some time.  xdm is now
well behaved on a broken config file, or any other factor that keeps it
from starting properly.

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Re: New X for stable

1999-09-03 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 08:37:33PM -0700, Greg  Heather Vence wrote:
 Thanx for the work on X.  I've got a Viper 770 and was wondering what the
 plan was for stable?  I know netgod is hosting 3.3.3.x  What about 3.3.4 and
 3.3.5?

Please see http://www.debian.org/~branden/ for the latest information.

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Re: where do i find crypt ?

1999-07-08 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Jul 08, 1999 at 03:08:58AM -, Pollywog wrote:
  /tmp/ccc00945: In function `try':
  /tmp/ccc00945(.text+0xb83): undefined reference to `crypt'
  
can anyone tell me please where/what package do i get the crypt function
  from ?
 
 Isn't that in libc6, folks?

Yes.  Be sure you supply -lcrypt on the gcc command line when building
that file.

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Re: xterm with utf-8

1999-07-04 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Jul 02, 1999 at 05:57:10PM +0100, Stefan Baums wrote:
 From /usr/doc/xterm/changelog.Debian.gz:
 
  xfree86-1 (3.3.3.1-4) unstable; urgency=low
 
* (#011): Debian-specific xterm patches
- disable UTF-8 support, upstream author is still working on it
 
 How can I reenable the UTF-8 support? I got myself the sources, but do
 not know _where_ to disable the patch.

I don't appear to have mentioned this in the changelogs (oops), but UTF-8
support was turned back on after a release or two (possibly 3.3.3.1-7).

3.3.3.1-10 is the current unstable version.

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Re: X -- switching colour depths on the fly

1999-06-30 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Jun 30, 1999 at 01:32:44AM -0700, G. Crimp wrote:
   I know about changing resolutions in X by using the Ctrl and Alt
 keys along with the keypad + or -.  I am wondering now if anyone knows if it
 is possible to switch colour depths without restarting X and demanding a
 specific depth.

It is not possible to change the color depth the X server is using without
restarting it, no.  See /usr/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.

XFree86 4.0 (which isn't expected out for months) is supposed to support
overlays, however (for instance, 8bpp PseudoColor windows when the server
is 24 or 32 bpp TrueColor).  To some extent, I am told, this will depend on
the supported features of the graphics card.

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Re: vim 5.4m BETA packages

1999-06-29 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Jun 29, 1999 at 01:39:32AM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
 I might create a vim-xaw later, which will be the same as vim but with
 an Xaw frontend. If you want this please let me know, otherwise I might
 just take the easy way out and skip it:).

Do it, man.  Athena OWNS you.  :)

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Re: WHERE IN THE WORLD IS X-WINDOWS? (I'M SO CONFUSED!)

1999-06-29 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Jun 28, 1999 at 11:04:40PM -0700, Wendell Buckner wrote:
WHAT PACKAGE CONTAINS X WINDOWS!!!

There are many pieces to the X Window System.

The best place to start is the xfree86-common package:

Package: xfree86-common
Status: install ok installed
Priority: standard
Section: x11
Installed-Size: 369
Maintainer: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Source: xfree86-1
Version: 3.3.3.1-9
Replaces: xbase ( 3.3.2.3a-9), xlib6g-dev ( 3.3.2.3a-2), xstd
Suggests: twm, xbase-clients, xdm, xf86setup, xfonts-100dpi | xfonts-75dpi, 
xfonts-base, xfonts-scalable, xlib6g, xlib6g-dev, xserver-common, xserver-vga16 
| xserver, xterm
Conffiles:
 /etc/X11/Xresources/xfree86-common a0f3911120c49038cb87607e3c545b90
 /etc/X11/Xsession 35ac1fe026fb8b6465997c5b0955753f
 /etc/X11/Xsession.options 1fa7cd6f1072b72467e14442efbbf9d6
Description: X Window System (XFree86) infrastructure
 xfree86-common contains the filesystem infrastructure required for further
 installation of the X Window System in any configuration.
 .
 Those wishing an X server only (with remote font services and clients) will
 also require the xserver-common package and an X server package.
 .
 The counterpart to the above configuration is a machine with the X libraries
 (the xlib6g package), xbase-clients, a window manager, some X font packages,
 and likely many more client packages.
 .
 Those who desire a standalone X workstation (and/or are fuzzy on the concepts
 of X servers and X clients) will require both of the above sets of packages.
 A recommended minimal list of packages for such a configuration is:
 xbase-clients, xf86setup, xfonts-100dpi or xfonts-75dpi, xfonts-base,
 xfonts-scalable, xlib6g, xserver-common, an xserver (several are available,
 and which you use is largely dependent on your graphics hardware), a window
 manager (several are available, and which you use is largely a matter of
 preference), and a terminal emulator X client package (again, several are
 available and which you use is your decision).
 .
 A number of terms are used to refer to the X Window System, including X, X
 Version 11, X11, X11R6, and X11R6.3.  The version of X used in Debian
 GNU/Linux is derived from the version released by the XFree86 Project, Inc.,
 and is thus often also referred to as XFree86.  All of the preceding quoted
 terms are functionally interchangeable in a Debian system.
 .
 Still confused?  Install this package and then read the files in
 /usr/doc/xfree86-common/ for assistance.

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