thunderbird missing arrows for scrolling through list of email messages
Greetings fine free software people. A number of years ago, the little arrows at the top and bottom of the scrollbar to the right of my "message list" view in thunderbird (I'm currently using debian stable) disappeared. As I have a huge number of emails in my work inbox (not this account), this means that in order to "gradually" move backwards or forwards through the list of messages, I am forced to use mouse/trackpad/scrollwheel features (usually two fingers on my trackpad) as there is not enough "granularity" for me to pick up the scrollbar and move it (there's no way I can be accurate enough not to jump past many hundreds or even thousands of messages when I do this). I use KDE on one computer and Gnome Classic on others. Neither of these seems to provide for the "old school" arrows at the top and bottom of the scrollbar in the GUI which I can click on and hold (it used to be possible to do this and then have the messages scroll by at a speed which allowed me to notice what's going by and stop when i see a subject, recipient or sender that is relevant and so which I want to stop and open the message). Any clue whether it's possible (by using a different window manager, configuring something in tbird, and/or by other means) to regain that older (and for me, very useful!) functionality, GUI-feature, or whatever the proper way to describe/categorize these widgets that disappeared might be? thanks so very very much in advance for any links to documentation, direction, guidance, advice, information, etc... ~c P.S. CCs directly to me are fine (but I'll check the list for a few days too).
using pam-ldap to allow ssh logins from only *some* ldap accounts (and not all)
Hi again everyone, Having gotten an excellent (and quite simple) response to my query about automatic homedir creation upon ssh login, i'm going to push my luck (expecting @ any moment to receive responses with RTFM or somethings close to that sentiment in them). Our goal is to allow not just *any* LDAP user in our openldap (version 2.4.40) directory, but only those specified as members of a particular group (in our LDAP). We have a custom LDAP attribute (groupSR) that is attached directly to the user's entry (ou=People,uid=) or we could easily also populate a "more standard" (cn=) entry (with memeberUID attributes corresponding to the "allowed SSH users") in the ou=Group branch of our directory. Pretty sure this was set up quite some time ago here, but the colleagues who I collaborated with to do it are no longer working with me, and I can't for the life of me remember how exactly it was done... as always, thanks so much for any assistance, as well as for all that everyone does for debian, ~c
Re: Re: oddjob-mkhomedir question
Thx so much, Stanislav! pam_mkhomedir works like a charm (and it didn't even take me too long to figure out how to set it up) best, ~c -- charlie derr systems thinker and nature lover https://medium.com/@cderr signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
oddjob-mkhomedir question
Greetings everyone, (apologies for the resend, but my initial attempt to post the below to the list well over half an hour ago from my other address (CCed) hasn't yet made it to the list, though i don't know why, so...) i'm not subscribed to the list (but will check back via the web archives for responses that don't get CCed or BCCed to me). Given that fact, do feel free to loop me in directly via (B)CC if you wish (though again, it's not necessary). i've been using debian for ~25 years, and first of all, i have to express my debt of gratitude. It just keeps getting better and better. Bullseye is truly awesome. On this relatively new platform, i was able to quite trivially get pam-ldap functionality (for SSH logins) working. However, after installing the oddjob package(s), a user who does not yet have a home directory on the server is still not getting one autocreated upon SSHing in. I've looked in log files, bumped sshd_config loglevel up to DEBUG, and restarted dbus, ssh and the oddjobd services. Should any of you have any advice about where to look in order to troubleshoot (there seems to be no evidence that any attempt was even made to create a homedir upon the user logging in), i'd love to have you share it. And/or if there's a different auto-create-homedir solution you might suggest, I'm also happy to try that (it does seem that oddjob is somewhat redhat specific?). thanks again for all that you all do -- what a great community, ~c -- charlie derr https://medium.com/@cderr pgp8GUGvJ36Df.pgp Description: PGP signature
oddjob-mkhomedir question
Greetings everyone, i'm not subscribed to the list (but will check back via the web archives for responses that don't get CCed or BCCed to me). Given that fact, do feel free to loop me in directly via (B)CC if you wish (though again, it's not necessary). i've been using debian for ~25 years, and first of all, i have to express my debt of gratitude. It just keeps getting better and better. Bullseye is truly awesome. On this relatively new platform, i was able to quite trivially get pam-ldap functionality (for SSH logins) working. However, after installing the oddjob package(s), a user who does not yet have a home directory on the server is still not getting one autocreated upon SSHing in. I've looked in log files, bumped sshd_config loglevel up to DEBUG, and restarted dbus, ssh and the oddjobd services. Should any of you have any advice about where to look in order to troubleshoot (there seems to be no evidence that any attempt was even made to create a homedir upon the user logging in), i'd love to have you share it. And/or if there's a different auto-create-homedir solution you might suggest, I'm also happy to try that (it does seem that oddjob is somewhat redhat specific?). thanks again for all that you all do -- what a great community, ~c
Re: requesting assistance troubleshooting Kmail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 15:28:37 -0500 m...@neidorff.com wrote: > This may or may not be helpful to Charlie, but others might find it > helpful > > For the sake of others with a similar problem with the stock kmail from within debian 9 stretch, I'm following up here to explain what it is that solved things for me. Almost all of the responses I received were from people who are using newer versions of kmail (as I explained (perhaps over in the other thread) earlier, I'm using 5.2.3 -- while I've run debian sid in the past (mostly quite successfully), I'm very much interested in sticking with the stable distro for the moment). Anyhow, one of the suggestions (I think again over on the other thread) was to delete the problematic IMAP account and recreate it using the wizard. This immediately fixed the problem (on both computers -- it was the realization that the laptop had recently developed the same issue that had happened on the desktop back in late January which spurred me into trying this answer). Thanks so very much for all of the feedback you all gave, and have a great day, ~c -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEETiJHl0qlojpckrtNu4s9czGpNn8FAlqeZvoACgkQu4s9czGp Nn+Uxw//WEcVel/4Dxf0usyYBsBppaTDVloPQLUQewwVnN4oOkQ33Joylm3nkchT AeYarRl+DF5u+gjThGwxGc1Ge5OHzlgV3ltCElUILolk0wGB4yBBNbP1YnCRRYXR EkBBkCjngzSCBbGFJmtU1FHdo1MOKgTpxHWTgGCey6uByG3+AMyx8wPuRYFZBCRb 8YrP0CaZMjlZ0xnQRAVY/I7PyptHA9Kqxc1CfOkD4+3RXe47HZD923zEs5jE0wrM iWYF04nj2tvuAXu/0B9ZhDIBoBrBaov8SG4q8CDSE1DaVcEPks12ykzO1awSue2T bqdV8Jk5eU1IUGj/h9ieW/QAHQsrrCqfNgsOtqV1dv3x1jrg+0V5ghu2D0iO8/tm 04OF7X3ZzjocdhEVHGfvBCy7M+GN4K5L3ey4hwpni1ZbhvMaZnh3sbg3D5X6ezH0 N7NMdeMIshEPO4yodkvQSDqNm3H5W+xUAk3Lp1oqt3yxdynOWpbIjKxusmfpeIW0 YMIb8yJekwkDfJhQTocnqQRFFMqxsBQ0Kc+m75yBnuTKJ2LwyTa8cuFiMiQol65V vH+LNOTSysdmAzvSFRnafmn8VYHyP6SV3b3LOvAkfyLlco+CJrvizkyEzEIcG3F4 w6xgbk2Rex+nUojiDIHy4WtLKx0fcUfnd8fzMCYG9+6T6Hxs8VY= =aNXd -END PGP SIGNATURE-
requesting assistance troubleshooting Kmail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Apologies if this turns out to be a duplicate message. I tried to send to the list using my problematic Kmail client (and a message appeared in my sent mail folder) but so far I don't see it having posted when I look at the web archives for debian-user. I sent a similar message to debian-kde this morning, but it appears there's not much activity there, so I figured I'd also try here. I've been a debian GNU/linux user (I like KDE for my desktop, though I generally keep openbox (and gnome) available as "fallbacks") for quite some time now (decades at least) and am in general a very happy user. I've been using both thunderbird and claws-mail as IMAP clients for some time, but recently (a few months ago) I set up Kmail (and I like it very much, as integration with gnupg was relatively painless). I am again using it as an IMAP client (with a different gmail address). I have two computers, both running debian 9 stretch. On one of them (the laptop), Kmail is functioning properly, but on the desktop machine which I'm writing from now, incoming email has not been appearing since the end of January. I don't see any obvious menu entries which would give me access to log files in order to try to troubleshoot the problem, so I'm looking for any advice as to how I might go about correcting the issue so this instance of Kmail can again receive email (it's possible that the problem is as simple as an incorrectly entered password though I've just attempted to reenter it with no improvement in mail fetching behavior). I'm not currently subscribed to this list, so CCing me is perfectly fine (though I'll monitor the web archives for responses on which I may not be CCed). thanks so much in advance for any information anyone may have to share with me, ~c -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEETiJHl0qlojpckrtNu4s9czGpNn8FAlqImY8ACgkQu4s9czGp Nn/OzQ/+IBWlE2dCMIe/e74XGA8Uq8Gd2ngiWFPMUim18rLjNP2Ovz94ZmiIWk6u 8/jQEBi8e9rXw4I+cZ9746vBlsHgg7up685BTU4E0x5l8jKvWd5X5fOtZEKmKqZw wQmG5QDeDhlDc8cJSIvy2x+lydMcBK+tb5OWmGVk6oqL+MrD6YHF7kR1EjLKpRzO s8w41HNYLfykkcp5sccyDWizMu1YxlW5uft0p7ZeaEbqR7Dvq53M+VaVhckyUCuO 4BkTe8U5WVmP9cWwA3qADH5xg/TLmyzOUlNNVNHck0AVG/sg73M86vsayeTnHEhh 81uCDWPqBl7Z7WtqYBVFnIwQ7oa0tSmEn5RaEceEELeLAKlbiMJI6zzqB1f95ro4 xESoXAFxWtGr+snBMKFQU0RG3D900ehdeRa6lzr4A4QnndbVSd7B1soxmRaB5jFI 3y5Daknz6Fgdq74lJbW71m6vBz7qcfAGpPCBXm2t8DfeCQ6i/xQgv97Quse7l1Bi wuInU+Hdxa4W7kW005qiiaP4ZQGhg3/dMQCsSehBKJHEWdzeB51mKAtVOW/iF+m+ Odwkbhe9YqxQr4dS7ad1dVZ0In64RM2kWaQpezKYqpqf1k+f2C5/YEE9AzFQsgMI 7OAtbLni/eAwH7HGy+iHhpjzWBZGlb7YwDnfGaILhrEk5PhgofA= =4e9G -END PGP SIGNATURE-
floppy drive in debian stable
Greetings, I'm not subscribed to debian-user anymore, so would appreciate a CC on the response if someone has an idea about how to solve the below. I have a friend who has used debian GNU/linux (with the help of others) for many years. After his most recent upgrade to stable, everything is working on his machine except his floppy drive. He has data on floppies (written from an old DOS machine) that he wants to print. As I said, he's done this in the past (prior to this latest upgrade) without trouble. He's now tried multiple different floppy disks. Below is some information directly from him. Anyone got any ideas on what he needs to do in order to get /dev/fd0 to live again? thanks so very much in advance, ~c pasted message w/info follows Here's what happens now: I type mtfl and get: mount: special device /dev/fd0 does not exist Here's the contents of mtfl #!/bin/bash sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 %%% dmesg [0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset [0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu [0.00] Linux version 2.6.26-1-686 (Debian 2.6.26-13lenny2) (da...@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.3 20080704 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.2-25)) #1 SMP Fri Mar 13 18:08:45 UTC 2009 [0.00] BIOS-provided physical RAM map: [0.00] BIOS-e820: - 000a (usable) [0.00] BIOS-e820: 000f - 0010 (reserved) [0.00] BIOS-e820: 0010 - 1fff (usable) [0.00] BIOS-e820: 1fff - 1fff3000 (ACPI NVS) [0.00] BIOS-e820: 1fff3000 - 2000 (ACPI data) [0.00] BIOS-e820: fec0 - fec01000 (reserved) [0.00] BIOS-e820: fee0 - fef0 (reserved) [0.00] BIOS-e820: fefffc00 - ff00 (reserved) [0.00] BIOS-e820: - 0001 (reserved) [0.00] 0MB HIGHMEM available. [0.00] 511MB LOWMEM available. [0.00] found SMP MP-table at [c00f4d70] 000f4d70 [0.00] Entering add_active_range(0, 0, 131056) 0 entries of 256 used [0.00] Zone PFN ranges: [0.00] DMA 0 - 4096 [0.00] Normal 4096 - 131056 [0.00] HighMem131056 - 131056 [0.00] Movable zone start PFN for each node [0.00] early_node_map[1] active PFN ranges [0.00] 0:0 - 131056 [0.00] On node 0 totalpages: 131056 [0.00] DMA zone: 32 pages used for memmap [0.00] DMA zone: 0 pages reserved [0.00] DMA zone: 4064 pages, LIFO batch:0 [0.00] Normal zone: 992 pages used for memmap [0.00] Normal zone: 125968 pages, LIFO batch:31 [0.00] HighMem zone: 0 pages used for memmap [0.00] Movable zone: 0 pages used for memmap [0.00] DMI 2.3 present. [0.00] ACPI: RSDP 000F6790, 0014 (r0 Nvidia) [0.00] ACPI: RSDT 1FFF3000, 002C (r1 Nvidia AWRDACPI 42302E31 AWRD 0) [0.00] ACPI: FACP 1FFF3040, 0074 (r1 Nvidia AWRDACPI 42302E31 AWRD 0) [0.00] ACPI: DSDT 1FFF30C0, 4B6B (r1 NVIDIA AWRDACPI 1000 MSFT 10E) [0.00] ACPI: FACS 1FFF, 0040 [0.00] ACPI: APIC 1FFF7C40, 006E (r1 Nvidia AWRDACPI 42302E31 AWRD 0) [0.00] Nvidia board detected. Ignoring ACPI timer override. [0.00] If you got timer trouble try acpi_use_timer_override [0.00] ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x4008 [0.00] ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee0 [0.00] ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x00] lapic_id[0x00] enabled) [0.00] ACPI: LAPIC_NMI (acpi_id[0x00] high edge lint[0x1]) [0.00] ACPI: IOAPIC (id[0x02] address[0xfec0] gsi_base[0]) [0.00] IOAPIC[0]: apic_id 2, version 17, address 0xfec0, GSI 0-23 [0.00] ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 0 global_irq 2 dfl dfl) [0.00] ACPI: BIOS IRQ0 pin2 override ignored. [0.00] ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 9 global_irq 9 high level) [0.00] ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 14 global_irq 14 high edge) [0.00] ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 15 global_irq 15 high edge) [0.00] ACPI: IRQ9 used by override. [0.00] ACPI: IRQ14 used by override. [0.00] ACPI: IRQ15 used by override. [0.00] Enabling APIC mode: Flat. Using 1 I/O APICs [0.00] Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration information [0.00] Allocating PCI resources starting at 3000 (gap: 2000:dec0) [0.00] PM: Registered nosave memory: 000a - 000f [0.00] PM: Registered nosave memory: 000f - 0010 [0.00] SMP: Allowing 1 CPUs, 0 hotplug CPUs [0.00] PERCPU: Allocating 37960 bytes of per cpu data [0.00] NR_CPUS: 8, nr_cpu_ids: 1 [0.00] Built 1
Re: weird problem in X with recent sid packages
Florian Kulzer wrote:
dibble:~# dpkg -l xkb\* x11-\* xserver-xorg-input\* libx11\* | awk '/^i/{print
$1,$2,$3}'
ii libx11-6 6.8.2.dfsg.1-6
[...]
The other packages listed were up-to-date for Sid, but your libx11-6 is
way too old. (Even Etch/oldstable has version 2:1.0.3-7 already!)
Upgrade this package to 2:1.2-1 and restart gdm.
That did the trick, thank you so very much :-]
You probably should run
aptitude search '~o|~U'
to check for other obsolete/upgradable packages on your system.
I certainly will, thanks for that tip.
I really appreciate your help,
~c
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Re: weird problem in X with recent sid packages
Florian Kulzer wrote:
[...]
Try to change the above section (and restart gdm):
Section InputDevice
Identifier Keyboard0
Driver kbd
Option CoreKeyboard
Option XkbRules xorg
Option XkbModel pc105
Option XkbLayout us
EndSection
The keyboard driver has been superseded by kdb for a while; see the
remarks in /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-input-kbd/NEWS.Debian.gz. The
xfree86 rules still exist as a legacy symlink, but it cannot hurt to
update the XkbRules line to xorg when you are editing the
configuration anyway.
Thanks for the quick reply. Unfortunately the symptoms remain (only every
other keystroke is registered in gdm).
If the new configuration does not solve your problem then I would like
to see the output of this command:
dpkg -l xkb\* x11-\* xserver-xorg-input\* libx11\* | awk '/^i/{print $1,$2,$3}'
dibble:~# dpkg -l xkb\* x11-\* xserver-xorg-input\* libx11\* | awk '/^i/{print
$1,$2,$3}'
ii libx11-6 6.8.2.dfsg.1-6
ii x11-apps 7.3+4
ii x11-common 1:7.3+18
ii x11-session-utils 7.3+1
ii x11-utils 7.4+1
ii x11-xfs-utils 7.4+1
ii x11-xkb-utils 7.4+2
ii x11-xserver-utils 7.3+5
ii xkb-data 1.5-2
ii xserver-xorg-input-all 1:7.3+18
ii xserver-xorg-input-evdev 1:2.0.8-1
ii xserver-xorg-input-kbd 1:1.3.1-1
ii xserver-xorg-input-mouse 1:1.3.0-1
ii xserver-xorg-input-synaptics 0.14.7~git20070706-3
ii xserver-xorg-input-wacom 0.8.1.6-1
thanks again for taking the time to look at this,
~c
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Re: weird problem in X with recent sid packages
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 20:56:03 -0400, charlie derr wrote: I have a machine that's quite old and underpowered that I've been running as Debian unstable for several years. A week or so ago, after upgrading a bunch of packages (including lots of xserver-xorg* and the kernel) I found that my keystrokes were not being properly registered (but only in X -- the command line and remote SSH sessions work fine). Basically I found that on the gdm login screen when I hit a key nothing would happen, but the second time I hit it, the character would be rendered on my screen. Going on a hunch I tried to login by typing every character in both my username and password twice and it succeeded. Once logged in (to KDE) things were worse (keystrokes were obviously being mapped to strange things, as I couldn't even get any letters to render in a konsole session). [...] How is your keyboard configured? Please post the output of these two commands (you can run them in a non-X terminal, e.g. CTRL+ALT+F1): Thank you very much for the response. awk '/Section InputDevice/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf n...@dibble:~$ awk '/Section InputDevice/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver keyboard Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xfree86 Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout us EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Serial Mouse Driver mouse Option Protocol Microsoft Option Device /dev/ttyS1 Option Emulate3Buttons true Option Emulate3Timeout 70 Option SendCoreEvents true EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier PS/2 Mouse Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 Option Device /dev/psaux Option Emulate3Buttons true Option Emulate3Timeout 70 Option SendCoreEvents true EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier USB Mouse Driver mouse #Option Device/dev/input/mice Option Device/dev/psaux Option SendCoreEventstrue Option Protocol auto Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 Option Buttons 5 EndSection grep -i keyboard /var/log/Xorg.0.log n...@dibble:~$ grep -i keyboard /var/log/Xorg.0.log (**) |--Input Device Keyboard0 (II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD (**) Option CoreKeyboard (**) Keyboard0: always reports core events (**) Keyboard0: Protocol: standard (**) Keyboard0: XkbRules: xfree86 (**) Keyboard0: XkbModel: pc105 (**) Keyboard0: XkbLayout: us (**) Keyboard0: CustomKeycodes disabled (II) evaluating device (Keyboard0) (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Keyboard0 (type: KEYBOARD) Thanks to anyone for any suggestions (or more requests for information). ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
weird problem in X with recent sid packages
I have a machine that's quite old and underpowered that I've been running as Debian unstable for several years. A week or so ago, after upgrading a bunch of packages (including lots of xserver-xorg* and the kernel) I found that my keystrokes were not being properly registered (but only in X -- the command line and remote SSH sessions work fine). Basically I found that on the gdm login screen when I hit a key nothing would happen, but the second time I hit it, the character would be rendered on my screen. Going on a hunch I tried to login by typing every character in both my username and password twice and it succeeded. Once logged in (to KDE) things were worse (keystrokes were obviously being mapped to strange things, as I couldn't even get any letters to render in a konsole session). I'm not providing many specifics because I don't really have a clue where to look. If someone can suggest a direction, I'd be happy to post configs, versions of packages or whatever. The processor in this machine is an AMD-K6 500MHz The kernel is 2.6.28-1-486 and while composing this message it occurred to me that I ought to try to boot back into my old kernel to see if the problem exists there, but due to all my upgrading I now get a kernel panic with a message stating kernel too old (the old kernel (that worked fine for many months if not years) was 2.6.17-1-486). thanks much in advance for any guidance, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [OT I think] Which Distro?
Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/26/2009 07:41 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: What applications or usage scenarios get more out of your hardware as with 32bit / 64bit kernel? How much better are those on amd64? If you have over 3 GB of memory then you need 64 bit. I really think that's myth. I'll confirm that. My laptop has 4G of RAM (though only 3.4G is addressable, but my understanding is that that's a BIOS limitation (thanks Dell) since both windows XP (which I dual boot) and Debian show the same value). I'm running 32 bit just fine (2+ years ago when I tried 64-bit on this hardware I couldn't get ubuntu64 nor debian64 to work completely correctly), though I often feel like I'm an inferior sort of geek (because I'm wasting those extra bits of processing power). ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: testing or unstable?
Kent West wrote: Rodolfo Medina wrote: I've been using Debian for more than three years now, but always using the official DVDs of the most current stable version: first Sarge, and then Etch. Recently, many times I've been needing to use a testing/unstable Debian version for many applications that were too old in stable Debian, so now I'm thinking of switching to a testing/unstable Debian version for good. Now, my question is: which one is more advisable, testing or unstable? All my non-critical work stations run unstable. This way I get the newest stuff. I tried to run testing for a while, but when bugs creep in, it sometimes took two weeks for them to creep out. With unstable, I run the risk of bugs creeping in more often, but they also tend to creep out within a day. And the unstable branch is still more stable (yes, I know, I'm mixing the meanings of the terms) than Windows. I think in about ten years I've only been bitten once by a serious bug, and even that worked itself out in about two days. (Just stagger the updates of your various boxes, so you always have at least one box that doesn't get horked.) +1 I also have several boxes running unstable (including my main work machine). I've been doing this for years. In general testing will have important things broken for longer periods of time (due to delays in dependencies bubbling down from unstable). Kent's advice above is very good. I also highly recommend installing apt-listbugs and reading the output (and possibly excluding some packages based on bugs that might affect you) when upgrading. ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: OT: Bush quotes
Hal Vaughan wrote: On Thursday 05 February 2009, Ignacio Mondino wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/05/2009 08:44 AM, consultores1 wrote: [snip] Are you refering to Unitedstatesdians? because i am from El Salvador and without any dude i am American. The oldest nation[0] in the region gets to pick it's name and abbreviation. That would be us. Sorry, we prefer not to be represented by you, thank you very much. Thus is the natural order of man. That is Gengis Kahn style of management. I've got the same response to both comments: You have to understand Ron. He's just being imperialistic. As always. Hal I completely agree. As someone who lives here (and is a citizen), I hold a very different opinion (than Ron) about who gets to name what. If other (non-USian) residents of the greater Americas take offense at us referring to ourselves as Americans, I'm happy to attempt to get this right (and even support the effort to attempt to educate my fellow USians). ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [Offtopic?] IRC blocked at school
Michael Pobega wrote: On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 10:25:04AM -0600, Stackpole, Chris wrote: From: Michael Pobega [mailto:pob...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Offtopic?] IRC blocked at school On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 05:11:44PM -0500, Paul Gupta wrote: Michael Pobega wrote: I just got into my new dorm room, only to find out that they block all IRC clients. I find this pretty disheartening since I often lurk on #debian and #debian-eeepc Is there any good way to tunnel or encrypt my data, or something similar? I am looking for something feasible, considering I can't afford to run my own tunnel or proxy. Do you have access to an SSH server somewhere? Nope. I wish I had a blinkenshell account, but I can't actually get into IRC to get two members to vouch for me. Does anyone know of any good free/cheap shell services that offer IRC? (I wouldn't mind paying say $1/month for it, but it'd be preferable not to since I don't have my own PayPal). I know I am late to the party, but thought I would chime in anyway. It has been a few years, but when I had the same issues at my school I used SDF ( http://sdf.lonestar.org ). I am not sure about pricing now, but back then they only required 1$ to sign up and that was just to prevent people from using their services as spam/attacks/ect. It was a good when I needed it. Have fun! ~Stack~ Thanks for the tipoff, perhaps I'll pay their price to use IRC, but do they have irssi as an IRC client? Perhaps I'll give it a spin this Sunday, as IRC access is free on Sundays. Once you have a place to SSH into, you can tunnel to a local port and use whatever client (including non-command-line choices) that you prefer on your local machine. man ssh ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: trouble with an upgrade
I never did get any responses to this query, but instead started over (wiping the system a couple days later and reinstalling (on a reformatted ext3 partition instead of XFS)). For the sake of the archives, I'm thinking that bug 239111 may have gotten me (though since all evidence has now been overwritten I don't think there's any way to confirm that categorically). ~c charlie derr wrote: Hi, I was fiddling with bzr last night for the first time and on one of my debian sid workstations pulled in the bzr-svn from experimental (because the one in sid was segfaulting when i tried to pull from a svn repo that wanted http auth). After noticing that there were some 500 or so packages left back, I thought I'd work on upgrading most everything else (to current unstable). I started with: aptitude install aptitude which seemed to succeed just fine. Then I kicked off: aptitude safe-upgrade just before going to bed. In the morning I found that the system was totally wonky (here's what I can read from the bottom of the screen session (I've since rebooted, so can't scroll up unfortunately)): E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (5 Input/output error) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? E: Could not regain the system lock! (Perhaps another apt or dpkg is running?) E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (5 Input/output error) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? Reading package lists... Error! E: Could not open file /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin - open (5 Input/output error) E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (5 Input/output error) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? Current status: 0 updates [-547], 0 new [-15337]. E: Could not open file /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin - open (5 Input/output error) E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. kronk:~# aptitude safe-upgrade -su: /usr/bin/aptitude: Input/output error kronk:~# kronk:~# kronk:~# halt -su: halt: command not found kronk:~# df -h -su: /bin/df: Input/output error kronk:~# Read from remote host kronk: Connection reset by peer Connection to kronk closed. obviously the final entry was me holding down the power button on the machine after rebooting aptitude gave errors (asking to run 'dpkg --configure -a' which didn't work at all because /usr/bin/dpkg was now an empty file --- I tried copying /usr/bin/dpkg from a different (working) sid system but that doesn't seem to be enough to fix it, I'm not getting an error when I run aptitude about e2fsprogs being improperly installed. However 'aptitude -f install' doesn't seem to want to fix it, and 'aptitude purge e2fsprogs' doesn't want do much for me either (even when I type I am aware that this is a very bad idea repeatedly in repsonse to the prompts (because of initscripts depending on e2fsprogs I'm not able to actually complete a purge no matter what choices I try from the manual dependency handling choices). My root filesystem on this machine is xfs (probably that last time I intentionally do that) and I suspect that an underlying physical hard drive problem is the original cause of the first error (the disk was certainly not close to full in any case). If I have to back up some remaining files from my home directory and wipe and start over, that's no biggie (as the machine still allows me to SSH (or SCP) out from it (incoming is not working, it seems there's something a bit wonky with the networking) so I can still look around for things I want to save before totally wiping and starting over with a fresh intall). But in the interest of possibly learning something, are there other things I could try first to try to resurrect the current brokenness back into a working system? thanks so much in advance for any suggestions, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lots of Gnome missing from Sid?
Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: A while ago i asked for advice about upgrading--i wanted more up to date packages on my Lenny laptop. Thanks to some helpful suggests, i concluded that it was safe to go to unstable. I change /etc/apt/sources.list from lenny to sid, and away i went. Since then things have been ok; sometimes a package i needed broke but it was alwaays back in a day or two. Usually i use Synaptic, but today i ran apt-get from the commandline and it prompted me to remove unnecessary packages, so i ran this and without paying too much attention realized that it had removed 270MB of stuff, including very large chunks of Gnome as being unnecessary'. Now my box is sort of unusable. Is this some very temporary thing, or did i really bite off more than i could chew? How do i get back to a usable system? Jen My understanding is that sometimes packages need to get uninstalled to solve dependency issues (in order to properly process a significant upgrade). If you're running unstable/sid, this will happen sometimes. As someone who's used sid/unstable on my main desktop machines for many years I can tell you that most of the time the fix is as simple as reinstalling afterwards. Have you tried yet something like (I've been following the advice to use aptitude instead of apt-get happily for years now also): aptitude install gnome-desktop-environment If you're very unlucky, then that might not be a sufficient answer (and there may be more fiddling/waiting necessary before you're back up and running). Sorry I'm not a gnome power user (I prefer KDE) so I can't help with specifics (but I think it's likely that others can/will). My advice is to be much more careful with the timing of attempted upgrades. When running unstable, you shouldn't just blithely upgrade regularly, and when you do upgrade, pay more attention to what is proposed for removal before allowing it to proceed. And always give yourself a little bit of time afterwards to sort stuff out (don't ever attempt upgrades 10 minutes before planning to leave your machine/office/home/whatever). good luck, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
trouble with an upgrade
Hi, I was fiddling with bzr last night for the first time and on one of my debian sid workstations pulled in the bzr-svn from experimental (because the one in sid was segfaulting when i tried to pull from a svn repo that wanted http auth). After noticing that there were some 500 or so packages left back, I thought I'd work on upgrading most everything else (to current unstable). I started with: aptitude install aptitude which seemed to succeed just fine. Then I kicked off: aptitude safe-upgrade just before going to bed. In the morning I found that the system was totally wonky (here's what I can read from the bottom of the screen session (I've since rebooted, so can't scroll up unfortunately)): E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (5 Input/output error) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? E: Could not regain the system lock! (Perhaps another apt or dpkg is running?) E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (5 Input/output error) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? Reading package lists... Error! E: Could not open file /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin - open (5 Input/output error) E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (5 Input/output error) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? Current status: 0 updates [-547], 0 new [-15337]. E: Could not open file /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin - open (5 Input/output error) E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. kronk:~# aptitude safe-upgrade -su: /usr/bin/aptitude: Input/output error kronk:~# kronk:~# kronk:~# halt -su: halt: command not found kronk:~# df -h -su: /bin/df: Input/output error kronk:~# Read from remote host kronk: Connection reset by peer Connection to kronk closed. obviously the final entry was me holding down the power button on the machine after rebooting aptitude gave errors (asking to run 'dpkg --configure -a' which didn't work at all because /usr/bin/dpkg was now an empty file --- I tried copying /usr/bin/dpkg from a different (working) sid system but that doesn't seem to be enough to fix it, I'm not getting an error when I run aptitude about e2fsprogs being improperly installed. However 'aptitude -f install' doesn't seem to want to fix it, and 'aptitude purge e2fsprogs' doesn't want do much for me either (even when I type I am aware that this is a very bad idea repeatedly in repsonse to the prompts (because of initscripts depending on e2fsprogs I'm not able to actually complete a purge no matter what choices I try from the manual dependency handling choices). My root filesystem on this machine is xfs (probably that last time I intentionally do that) and I suspect that an underlying physical hard drive problem is the original cause of the first error (the disk was certainly not close to full in any case). If I have to back up some remaining files from my home directory and wipe and start over, that's no biggie (as the machine still allows me to SSH (or SCP) out from it (incoming is not working, it seems there's something a bit wonky with the networking) so I can still look around for things I want to save before totally wiping and starting over with a fresh intall). But in the interest of possibly learning something, are there other things I could try first to try to resurrect the current brokenness back into a working system? thanks so much in advance for any suggestions, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: how do i change to lenny?
Jeff Soules wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Jochen Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aptitude is the preferred package manager since sarge. Preferred by whom, for what reason? I've always been much happier with apt-get when I want precision, aptitude when I want to browse. When I upgraded from etch to lenny, apt-get gave me useful feedback that helped me fix things; aptitude wanted to mark my entire system for purge, for no specified reason... For whatever it's worth, I haven't used apt-get for years (and have never been dissatisfied with aptitude). I very rarely use aptitude interactively though (mostly I use it as a drop-in replacement on the command-line for the apt-get commands I used to use). My memory is that the advice I followed several years ago (to switch from apt-get to aptitude) was due to a slightly better dependency-processing algorithm, but it's possible I've misremembered that detail. ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to separate Debian list emails from my other emails ...
David Bernier wrote: Dear Debian users, I use the Icedove mail-client for my email. Icedove works like Thunderbird. I continue my subscription so that I can send mail to the list. With the high volume on this list, it's necessary for me to sift through lots of headers to separate the List messages from my other email. I think the List messages also go to Usenet. Any help with ideas in managing all these emails (List + others) would be appreciated. David Bernier The obvious solution is to set up a filter in icedove to automatically place messages in a debian folder. Write a rule (or rules) based on whatever header you'd like. good luck, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help...I hosed my system trying to apt-get dist-upgrade
Mark Phillips wrote: I don't have a man entry for apt-file. What is it and how do I use it to solve this problem?? thanks! Mark aptitude update aptitude install apt-file apt-file update and then apt-file search filename will tell you what packages filename appears in good luck, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox 3?
Stackpole, Chris wrote: Is there a version of Firefox 3--or, i guess, Iceweasel 3--in package form yet, or is it still in some kind of testing form where you have to compile it yourself? It is only in Sid right now: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=iceweasel Of course there is nothing stopping you from installing firefox3 manually, but if you want Iceweasle deb packages, you will have to pull from Sid. Have fun! The current version of iceweasel in sid (3.0~rc2-2) doesn't seem to play very well with some plugins. I'm using a ff3 binary I downloaded from mozilla.com and run out of my home directory until a final (non-rc) version of iceweasel makes it into the sid repo. ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CPU Frequencies Don't scale independently
Jochen Schulz wrote: Hakan BAYINDIR: P.S. I cannot send a config.gz since the kernel is prepackaged. You'll find the configuration of the currently running kernel in /proc/config.gz. At least Debian kernels have that feature enabled by default. J. It would sure be nice if that were the case, but I don't think it's true. I have linux-image-2.6.25-2-686 installed from the debian package (in sid) and I'm booted into it, but there's no config.gz in /proc ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: making bootup fsck more user-friendly
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: I guess the defaults are very conservative settings regarding reliability of your data and were implemented at a time when there was no journalling for data protection. Actually, kernel bugs, memory problems, corruption in the CPU to disk platter path, and media bitrot are the reasons for which scheduled fsck exist. Journals don't help or hinder it in any way. Otherwise, you'd fsck only on unclean shutdown, or after a known data-trashing event (like an erroneous write access to the raw device, or IO errors on the device, etc). I'd love an explanation about why only certain filesystem types seem to need this fsck as a regular event. Maybe I've got some details wrong, but my understanding has always been that xfs, reiserfs and others don't recommend any counting mechanism (to force an fsck at a certain number of boots, or after a certain period of time). If one of you experts has time to enlighten me about this, and whether there's something about the ext2/ext3 family of filesystems that makes it particularly susceptible to corruption, or whether I'm just misinformed about the best practices for these other journaling filesystems (which I admittedly have little 1st-hand experience with), I'd very much appreciate any info or links to info that will teach me more. thanks so very much in advance, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slow ping?
Andrei Popescu wrote: Hello everybody, My favorite radio station is not working correctly and I just run a ping on it and surprise! Have a look at the following: ,[ time ping live.eliberadio.ro ] | PING live.eliberadio.ro (80.86.106.3) 56(84) bytes of data. | 64 bytes from 80.86.106.3: icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=21.1 ms | 64 bytes from 80.86.106.3: icmp_seq=2 ttl=54 time=20.2 ms | 64 bytes from 80.86.106.3: icmp_seq=3 ttl=54 time=20.0 ms | 64 bytes from 80.86.106.3: icmp_seq=4 ttl=54 time=20.9 ms | 64 bytes from 80.86.106.3: icmp_seq=5 ttl=54 time=31.5 ms | 64 bytes from 80.86.106.3: icmp_seq=6 ttl=54 time=39.3 ms | 64 bytes from 80.86.106.3: icmp_seq=7 ttl=54 time=20.7 ms | 64 bytes from 80.86.106.3: icmp_seq=8 ttl=54 time=20.0 ms | 64 bytes from 80.86.106.3: icmp_seq=9 ttl=54 time=22.2 ms | 64 bytes from 80.86.106.3: icmp_seq=10 ttl=54 time=19.5 ms | 64 bytes from 80.86.106.3: icmp_seq=11 ttl=54 time=25.5 ms | | --- live.eliberadio.ro ping statistics --- | 11 packets transmitted, 11 received, 0% packet loss, time 50455ms | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 19.524/23.764/39.321/5.957 ms | | real0m51.032s | user0m0.008s | sys 0m0.020s ` ,[ time ping google.com ] | PING google.com (64.233.167.99) 56(84) bytes of data. | 64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=1 ttl=239 time=185 ms | 64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=2 ttl=238 time=158 ms | 64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=3 ttl=239 time=185 ms | 64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=4 ttl=239 time=188 ms | 64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=5 ttl=239 time=183 ms | 64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=6 ttl=239 time=187 ms | 64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=7 ttl=239 time=187 ms | 64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=8 ttl=238 time=159 ms | 64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=9 ttl=239 time=181 ms | 64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=10 ttl=239 time=181 ms | | --- google.com ping statistics --- | 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 8998ms | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 158.750/179.938/188.626/10.718 ms | | real0m9.500s | user0m0.008s | sys 0m0.016s ` Can anybody explain why the first ping takes 5 times longer, while getting more than 5 times faster ping replies? My only guess is that the DNS lookup took an inordinately long time to complete -- if you ping by ip (rather than name) you should be able to test my theory. ~c Regards, Andrei -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
upgrading X in sid
I have a laptop with a native resolution of 1900x1200 which has been working fine for the past year an a half. This weekend I upgraded (which included both X and kde) in unstable/sid and now I find that my X session is being rendered (according to xvidtune) at 1680x1050 What's odd is that the relevant section from /etc/X11/xorg.conf (pasted below) wouldn't seem to allow that. Anyone know what's going on? The only explanation that makes sense to me is that Xorg now directly queries the graphics subsystem and essentially ignores what's been set in xorg.conf. I'm definitely interested in knowing how to get back the full 1900x1200 resolution. thanks much in advance, ~c Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Device Generic Video Card Monitor Generic Monitor DefaultDepth16 SubSection Display Depth 1 Modes 1920x1200 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 4 Modes 1920x1200 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 8 Modes 1920x1200 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 15 Modes 1920x1200 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 16 Modes 1920x1200 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1920x1200 EndSubSection EndSection and here's the relevant part of Xorg.0.log (--) NV(0): Panel size is 1920 x 1200 (II) NV(0): Panel is LVDS (--) NV(0): VideoRAM: 262144 kBytes (==) NV(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (II) NV(0): Generic Monitor: Using hsync range of 30.00-70.00 kHz (II) NV(0): Generic Monitor: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-160.00 Hz (II) NV(0): Clock range: 12.00 to 400.00 MHz (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 320x175 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 320x200 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 360x200 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 320x240 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 320x240 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 320x240 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 320x240 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 400x300 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 400x300 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 400x300 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 400x300 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 400x300 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 1024x768 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 512x384 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 512x384 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 512x384 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 512x384 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 512x384 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 576x432 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 640x480 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 1280x960 (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 640x480 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 640x512 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 1280x1024 (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 640x512 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 1280x1024 (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 640x512 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 1600x1200 (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 800x600 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 1600x1200 (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 800x600 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 1600x1200 (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 800x600 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 1600x1200 (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 800x600 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 1600x1200 (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 800x600 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 1792x1344 (exceeds panel
Re: upgrading X in sid
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 03:04:32PM -0500, charlie derr wrote: snippage Section Monitor Identifier Generic Monitor Option DPMS HorizSync 30-70 VertRefresh 50-160 EndSection I'd start by commenting out the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines above to let xorg pick it's own instead of being constrained. woohoo, that worked! thanks so much for this hint more snippage also, check Jorg-Volker's idea too. It may be relevant. A Yeah, it looks like there's some good info there, but since I no longer have a problem, I'm less inclined to make sure I understand it all :-] thanks to all, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrading X in sid
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 09:29:18AM -0500, charlie derr wrote: I have a laptop with a native resolution of 1900x1200 which has been working fine for the past year an a half. This weekend I upgraded (which included both X and kde) in unstable/sid and now I find that my X session is being rendered (according to xvidtune) at 1680x1050 What's odd is that the relevant section from /etc/X11/xorg.conf (pasted below) wouldn't seem to allow that. from you're Xorg.0.log below, it is clear the it's trying to get 1920x1200 but can't because all the options it tries are out of sync. Thanks for the info. What's odd is that my xorg.conf file is timestamped 2006-10-29 (which is definitely the last time I intentionally messed with it). And I was definitely getting 1900x1200 before this recent upgrade. So it used to work fine (prior to the new X packages (7.3+10) being installed). Anyone know what's going on? The only explanation that makes sense to me is that Xorg now directly queries the graphics subsystem and essentially ignores what's been set in xorg.conf. I'm definitely interested in knowing how to get back the full 1900x1200 resolution. thanks much in advance, ~c Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Device Generic Video Card Monitor Generic Monitor DefaultDepth16 SubSection Display Depth 1 Modes 1920x1200 EndSubSection ... SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1920x1200 EndSubSection EndSection the rest of your xorg.conf would be helpful. I've attached it in its entirety. and here's the relevant part of Xorg.0.log (--) NV(0): Panel size is 1920 x 1200 (II) NV(0): Panel is LVDS (--) NV(0): VideoRAM: 262144 kBytes (==) NV(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (II) NV(0): Generic Monitor: Using hsync range of 30.00-70.00 kHz (II) NV(0): Generic Monitor: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-160.00 Hz these generic specs may be the problem. What are the actual hsync and vrefresh ranges of this monitor? especially for the mode you want? ... (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 1920x1200 (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 960x600 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 1920x1200 (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 960x600 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 1920x1440 (exceeds panel dimensions) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 960x720 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 2048x1536 (exceeds panel dimensions) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 1024x768 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 2048x1536 (exceeds panel dimensions) (II) NV(0): Not using default mode 1024x768 (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NV(0): Not using driver mode 1920x1200 (hsync out of range) (II) NV(0): Not using mode 1920x1200 (no mode of this name) --^^ it can't find a 1920x1200 mode that works. Just as a wild guess, I would say that the hsync and vrefresh ranges above are not wide enough to accomodate the mode you want. And sometimes it is possibly just a rounding error. I have a monitor that is supposed to max out at 86kHz (note making up numbers here) hsync, but xrandr rounds it to 86.01 and then fails that mode. I had to spec it to 87kHz in xorg.conf to get it to operate at it's native resolution. Thanks for the explanation. I'm still puzzled why my recent upgrade changed things (when my xorg.conf file is still the same). One would think that both the new and older xserver-xorg packages would round in the same way... (--) NV(0): Virtual size is 1680x1050 (pitch 1696) (**) NV(0): Default mode 1680x1050: 147.1 MHz, 65.2 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) NV(0): Modeline 1680x1050x60.0 147.14 1680 1784 1968 2256 1050 1051 1054 1087 (65.2 kHz) note that this mode sets the hsync at 65.2kHz. It's very possible that 1920x1200 bumps right up against or beyond the 70kHz max you're using. So, get the specs of the display and set up your xorg.conf properly. When I try to use Dell's online system, here's the truncated information available for what's specifically installed (in terms of the LED screen). Doesn't seem that helpful to me, but maybe someone with expertise can intuit the actual details about what hardware is being described: 1 PF006 LIQUID CRYSTAL DISPLAY..., 17, WU, VIDEO ELEC. STDS. ASSOC, SHARP..., V2 1 RG688 ASSEMBLY..., CABLE..., COAXIAL ..., LIQUID CRYSTAL DISPLAY..., 17, ZANZIBAR/RIKERS/SUVA... I just went back and found the original invoice (which is much less helpful). That simply specifies 17 WUXGA display. I find the read-edid package helpful if you can't get the specs
Re: etch -- testing
Rick Dooling wrote: On Jan 21, 7:20 pm, charlie derr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's really eager to upgrade from etch to something newer. You didn't say why? Is there a particular program he craves a newer version of? Most of them :-[ It looked to me like icedove 2.0.0.9-3 is available in testing right now (when I searched on packages.debian.org) and I figured that most other stuff would be available in a relatively contemporary version too. I went the Ubuntu route a couple of years ago. It's fun until you do a routine update and everything breaks. If he's not an expert and it's his workstation (that is, where he works) I would stick with stable, unless there is a compelling need for a newer version of something he needs to get his work done. He actually has a second machine (laptop) with ubuntu on it (an attempt to switch distros in the past). Since I'm not nearly as proficient with untangling ubuntu problems as I am with understanding debian, I don't think that it really makes sense (in the past there were other ubuntu-lovers around that he could also lean on but that's no longer the case). The laptop has dapper on it, and from what little I've read, the upgrade path for ubuntu mostly means wipe;reinstall -- if the desktop machine goes to testing without much of a hitch, then I guess we'll then be faced with the decision of what to upgrade the laptop to. This guy has actually been running debian for a lot longer than I have (though always with assistance). While it's sometimes a bit frustrating to always be on the hook no matter what issue he might be having, I do feel it's important to support the ethos that drives his insistence on using debian/GNU linux (his understanding of the political ramifications of using free software is something I obviously support completely, and it's the reason I'm willing to go the extra mile for him). It's a little bit interesting to me that my query brought a debate as to whether ubuntu would be more appropriate (not a question I was asking). I was more looking for some feedback from someone who might have upgraded from etch to testing recently about specific pitfalls. In Debian, stable means something, as they say. You're preaching to the choir (though I personally run unstable, I do understand that I'm going to sometimes have problems doing this). thanks in any case to all 3 of you for your feedback, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: etch -- testing
steve wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 charlie derr wrote: | | | I went the Ubuntu route a couple of years ago. It's fun until you do a | routine update and everything breaks. ? Ive used it on this laptop for almost 3 years, and never had a problem with anything breaking. you use some off the wall repositories or something? The above quote wasn't mine, so sorry, can't answer that one. I | He actually has a second machine (laptop) with ubuntu on it (an attempt | to switch distros in the past). Since I'm not nearly as proficient with | untangling ubuntu problems as I am with understanding debian, I don't | think that it really makes sense (in the past there were other | ubuntu-lovers around that he could also lean on but that's no longer the | case). The laptop has dapper on it, and from what little I've read, | the upgrade path for ubuntu mostly means wipe;reinstall -- if the | desktop machine goes to testing without much of a hitch, then I guess | we'll then be faced with the decision of what to upgrade the laptop to. wipe and reinstall? the only reason anyone might want to do that is if the disk is corrupted. when the upgrades work flawlessly in ubuntu, why would anyone want to re install? I thought that at one point (in the past, when I was paying a little more attention) that a certain ubuntu release might be better installed as a clean reinstall (rather than trying to upgrade from a previous release). Hearing that (or thinking I heard that), I simply extrapolated the more conservative answer that I'd probably always be safer reinstalling. But maybe that was a one time thing (or maybe it was only true just prior to a final release?) or maybe it was never true and I'm making this up (because I'm incapable of remembering any more details). But if folks think that I've got a shot at going from Dapper to a current ubuntu release on his laptop, I'll definitely give that a shot -- nice to know that's an option. As for the rest of it, I gave him the instructions I'd initially pasted and as far as I know he's either upgrading his debian stable desktop to testing or breaking it badly. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it's the former. ~c - -- Steve Reilly http://reillyblog.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHlhuU1L48K811Km0RAkXMAJwPpIm92Up7Ql6uaWLaYgBJB9T16gCghl/M VGyVtdxqAngJsTuTzPAUzw4= =Ug8Y -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
etch -- testing
An associate is not quite as avid a linux user as I am (though he's been at it at least as long). He's got a machine that's running etch that he uses as a general all-purpose workstation desktop (gnome, icedove, iceweasel, ooo, emacs, cups, and a bunch more often-used apps). He's really eager to upgrade from etch to something newer. So I thought I'd ask here about any possible pitfalls, or suggestions of how best to get him to a semi-stable bunch of packages from testing/lenny. For that matter is there any information about when a lenny freeze might happen? (so that I can help him time a in switch his /etc/apt/sources.list back from testing to lenny so that he can avoid shooting himself in the foot later) Anyhow, if I were going to do this without anyone else's input (go from etch to testing), here's the way I'd attempt it on my own machine: aptitude update; aptitude upgrade // to make sure etch is current change /etc/apt/sources.list by applying s/etch/testing/ aptitude update aptitude install aptitude aptitude install apt-listbugs aptitude safe-upgrade (if that's available in the aptitude in testing right now) thanks much in advance for any suggestions, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
problems upgrading texlive-base-bin in unstable
I'm upgrading a sid machine (that's not been upgraded for years probably). Over the last 18 hours (it's a pretty slow old beast) I've gotten most of the way towards an updated system, but ran into a problem late that I'm unsure how to address. I'm trying to avoid uninstalling texlive-base-bin (and the packages it depends on), but if that's the only way, I'll do it. Thanks much in advance for any suggestions. ~c Setting up texlive-base-bin (2007.dfsg.1-2) ... Running mktexlsr. This may take some time... done. Building format(s) --all. This may take some time... fmtutil-sys failed. Output has been stored in /tmp/fmtutil.LeoF4270 Please include this file if you report a bug. Below is the first part of the contents of that file: fmtutil: running `mf-nowin -ini -jobname=mf -progname=mf mf.ini' ... This is METAFONT, Version 2.71828 (Web2C 7.5.6) (INIMF) (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/metafont/config/mf.ini (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/metafont/base/plain.mf Preloading the plain base, version 2.71: preliminaries, basic constants and mathematical macros, macros for converting from device-independent units to pixels, macros and tables for various modes of operation, macros for drawing and filling, macros for proof labels and rules, macros for character and font administration, and a few last-minute items.)kpathsea: Running mktexmf modes ! I can't find file `modes'. l.3 \input modes Please type another input file name: ! Emergency stop. l.3 \input modes Transcript written on mf.log. Error: `mf-nowin -ini -jobname=mf -progname=mf mf.ini' failed fmtutil: running `tex -ini -jobname=tex -progname=tex tex.ini' ... This is TeX, Version 3.141592 (Web2C 7.5.6) (INITEX) (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/plain/config/tex.ini (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/plain/base/plain.tex Preloading the plain format: codes, registers, parameters, fonts, more fonts, macros, math definitions, output routines, hyphenation (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/generic/hyphen/hyphen.tex)) ) Beginning to dump on file tex.fmt (format=tex 2008.1.13) 2020 strings of total length 29031 4990 memory locations dumped; current usage is 1104877 926 multiletter control sequences \font\nullfont=nullfont \font\tenrm=cmr10 \font\preloaded=cmr9 \font\preloaded=cmr8 \font\sevenrm=cmr7 \font\preloaded=cmr6 \font\fiverm=cmr5 \font\teni=cmmi10 \font\preloaded=cmmi9 \font\preloaded=cmmi8 \font\seveni=cmmi7 \font\preloaded=cmmi6 \font\fivei=cmmi5 \font\tensy=cmsy10 \font\preloaded=cmsy9 \font\preloaded=cmsy8 \font\sevensy=cmsy7 \font\preloaded=cmsy6 \font\fivesy=cmsy5 \font\tenex=cmex10 \font\preloaded=cmss10 \font\preloaded=cmssq8 \font\preloaded=cmssi10 \font\preloaded=cmssqi8 \font\tenbf=cmbx10 \font\preloaded=cmbx9 \font\preloaded=cmbx8 \font\sevenbf=cmbx7 \font\preloaded=cmbx6 \font\fivebf=cmbx5 \font\tentt=cmtt10 \font\preloaded=cmtt9 \font\preloaded=cmtt8 \font\preloaded=cmsltt10 \font\tensl=cmsl10 \font\preloaded=cmsl9 \font\preloaded=cmsl8 \font\tenit=cmti10 \font\preloaded=cmti9 \font\preloaded=cmti8 \font\preloaded=cmti7 \font\preloaded=cmu10 \font\preloaded=cmmib10 \font\preloaded=cmbsy10 \font\preloaded=cmcsc10 \font\preloaded=cmssbx10 \font\preloaded=cmdunh10 \font\preloaded=cmr7 at 14.51799pt \font\preloaded=cmtt10 at 14.4pt \font\preloaded=cmssbx10 at 14.4pt \font\preloaded=manfnt 14787 words of font info for 50 preloaded fonts 14 hyphenation exceptions Hyphenation trie of length 6075 has 181 ops out of 35111 181 for language 0 No pages of output. Transcript written on tex.log. fmtutil: /var/lib/texmf/web2c/tex/tex.fmt installed. fmtutil: running `tex -ini -jobname=latex -progname=latex latex.ini' ... This is TeXk, Version 3.141592 (Web2C 7.5.6) (INITEX) %-line parsing enabled. (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/latexconfig/latex.ini (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/latex.ltx (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/texsys.cfg) ./texsys.aux found [EMAIL PROTECTED] set to: ./. Assuming \openin and \input have the same search path. Defining UNIX/DOS style filename parser. catcodes, registers, compatibility for TeX 2, parameters, LaTeX2e 2005/12/01 hacks, control, par, spacing, files, font encodings, lengths, Local config file fonttext.cfg used (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/fonttext.cfg (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/fonttext.ltx === Don't modify this file, use a .cfg file instead === (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/omlenc.def) (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/t1enc.def) (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/ot1enc.def) (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/omsenc.def) (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/t1cmr.fd) (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/ot1cmr.fd) (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/ot1cmss.fd) (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/ot1cmtt.fd))) Local config file fontmath.cfg used
Re: problems upgrading texlive-base-bin in unstable
on texlive-pstricks; however: Package texlive-pstricks is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing prosper (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of tipa: tipa depends on texlive-base-bin; however: Package texlive-base-bin is not configured yet. tipa depends on texlive-latex-base; however: Package texlive-latex-base is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing tipa (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: texlive-base-bin texlive-base texlive-fonts-recommended texlive-latex-base texlive-latex-recommended texlive tetex-bin dvipdfmx kdvi kdegraphics kde latex-xcolor texlive-generic-recommended texlive-pstricks prosper tipa E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) charlie derr wrote: I'm upgrading a sid machine (that's not been upgraded for years probably). Over the last 18 hours (it's a pretty slow old beast) I've gotten most of the way towards an updated system, but ran into a problem late that I'm unsure how to address. I'm trying to avoid uninstalling texlive-base-bin (and the packages it depends on), but if that's the only way, I'll do it. Thanks much in advance for any suggestions. ~c Setting up texlive-base-bin (2007.dfsg.1-2) ... Running mktexlsr. This may take some time... done. Building format(s) --all. This may take some time... fmtutil-sys failed. Output has been stored in /tmp/fmtutil.LeoF4270 Please include this file if you report a bug. Below is the first part of the contents of that file: fmtutil: running `mf-nowin -ini -jobname=mf -progname=mf mf.ini' ... This is METAFONT, Version 2.71828 (Web2C 7.5.6) (INIMF) (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/metafont/config/mf.ini (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/metafont/base/plain.mf Preloading the plain base, version 2.71: preliminaries, basic constants and mathematical macros, macros for converting from device-independent units to pixels, macros and tables for various modes of operation, macros for drawing and filling, snipped dpkg: error processing tetex-bin (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of kde: kde depends on kdegraphics (= 4:3.4.3); however: Package kdegraphics is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing kde (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of dvipdfmx: dvipdfmx depends on tetex-bin | texlive-base-bin; however: Package tetex-bin is not configured yet. Package texlive-base-bin is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing dvipdfmx (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of latex-xcolor: latex-xcolor depends on texlive-latex-recommended; however: Package texlive-latex-recommended is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing latex-xcolor (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: texlive-base-bin tipa texlive-base texlive-generic-recommended texlive-fonts-recommended texlive-pstricks kdvi texlive-latex-base texlive prosper kdegraphics texlive-latex-recommended tetex-bin kde dvipdfmx latex-xcolor Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Reading extended state information Initializing package states... Done Reading task descriptions... Done Building tag database... Done -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problems upgrading texlive-base-bin in unstable
Sven Joachim wrote: On 2008-01-13 17:23 +0100, charlie derr wrote: I'm upgrading a sid machine (that's not been upgraded for years probably). Generally speaking, this is risky business, but you probably know that. Leaping over the last stable release is not supported. Thanks for that hint. I don't mind doing it exactly *because* it's risky business. I like the challenge of trying to hunt down the solution when things break. Of course, part of my lack of fear is knowing that there's a mailing list here as a support option when I get too confused. Thanks :-] Setting up texlive-base-bin (2007.dfsg.1-2) ... Running mktexlsr. This may take some time... done. Building format(s) --all. This may take some time... fmtutil-sys failed. Output has been stored in /tmp/fmtutil.LeoF4270 Please include this file if you report a bug. Below is the first part of the contents of that file: fmtutil: running `mf-nowin -ini -jobname=mf -progname=mf mf.ini' ... This is METAFONT, Version 2.71828 (Web2C 7.5.6) (INIMF) (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/metafont/config/mf.ini (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/metafont/base/plain.mf Preloading the plain base, version 2.71: preliminaries, basic constants and mathematical macros, macros for converting from device-independent units to pixels, macros and tables for various modes of operation, macros for drawing and filling, macros for proof labels and rules, macros for character and font administration, and a few last-minute items.)kpathsea: Running mktexmf modes ! I can't find file `modes'. l.3 \input modes Please type another input file name: ! Emergency stop. l.3 \input modes Can it be that you purged your old tetex-base package during the upgrade? It's possible, I've upgraded 700+ packages since yesterday and it didn't all go smoothly, but up until this point, everything has been solvable. It sounds like you rediscovered http://bugs.debian.org/420390. My advice would be to reinstall all texlive packages and take care that missing conffiles are regenerated, like that: # dpkg -i --force-confmiss /var/cache/apt/archives/texlive*.deb I tried that but it didn't really help -- i put more info in a different message on this thread before seeing your reply. I'll go read the bug report on 420390 now. Good luck, Sven Thanks again, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrading in sid
I missed this message until just now, thanks so much for all the info I snipped out, I'm going to try to understand it now. aptitude-create-state-bundle doesn't apparently exist on my system -- was this a relatively recent addition to aptitude? (it may have been a year or slightly longer since I've upgraded aptitude) Actually, if you have a way to post large files on the internet, it would be interesting if you could run aptitude-create-state-bundle snapshot.tar.bz2 and then let me know how to get access to it; then I might be able to reproduce your problems here and find out exactly what's happening. Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrading in sid
Daniel Burrows wrote: On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 03:59:16PM -0500, charlie derr [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: Daniel Burrows wrote: It would be interesting to know what ldd /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2 says. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cache/apt$ ldd /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2 linux-gate.so.1 = (0xb7fb7000) libdl.so.2 = /lib/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2 (0xb7e7e000) libz.so.1 = /usr/local/lib/libz.so.1 (0xb7e6a000) ^^ You may not know it's there, but you have a local version of libz.so.1 that isn't binary-compatible with the Debian-supplied libz. You're probably better off just deleting this (or moving it to some other name, like was-libz.1); as it is, you risk random breakage and security holes (because you probably aren't getting security updates for your local version of the library). You may want to check if anything else has been placed in /usr/local/bin or /usr/local/lib, and what the timestamps are (run ls -l /usr/local/bin /usr/local/lib), as any other files in there will override the system libraries. Thanks so very much to you and Florian both being patient with me and explaining in this sort of detail. The timestamp on the problematic libz.so.1.2.3 (where libz.so.1 was linked to told me that I'd installed it on 11-16-2006 which was long enough ago that I can understand forgetting that I'd done it (and also at a period of time, that I might very well have been trying to install new software (some of which I might not have been able to find in debian)). Erk. That means something is hosed in your apt cache. I would guess this isn't related to your earlier problems, but it would be interesting to know whether running aptitude update fixes this problem, it hasn't yet (subsequent upgrades/removals won't all succeed (all of the gnome related stuff is foobared)) -- this is why i've Huh, interesting. delete:~# apt-cache showpkg desktop-base shared-mime-info Package: desktop-base Versions: 4.0.4(/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages) 4.0.3(/var/lib/dpkg/status) OK, apt believes that version 4.0.4 is available from unstable. But when it goes to actually install that version, it apparently blows up, complaining that no file in the archive actually provides version 4.0.4. At least, that's how I interpret that message (pkgAcqArchive::pkgAcqArchive generates it if QueueNext fails)...although from the source it looks like there are a few other things it could be caused by, such as unusual trust errors. You didn't mention trust problems, though, so I assume that's not what's happening. I wonder what these commands will show: grep -A 1000 ^Package: desktop-base$ /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages | sed '/^$/,$d' apt-cache policy desktop-base apt-get -s install desktop-base apt-get -s install desktop-base=4.0.4 aptitude -s install desktop-base=4.0.4 aptitude - show desktop-base Actually, if you have a way to post large files on the internet, it would be interesting if you could run aptitude-create-state-bundle snapshot.tar.bz2 and then let me know how to get access to it; then I might be able to reproduce your problems here and find out exactly what's happening. Daniel With the removal of the problematic libz stuff, aptitude is humming along just fine. I now understand (I think) completely what the sequence of events was. In trying my upgrade the other day, there was a problem with 5 packages: desktop-base gnome-session libgnome2-common libgnomevfs2-common shared-mime-info It was the gzopen64 error, but not understanding it, my first thought was that perhaps the downloaded files were maybe corrupted (I'd seen what I'd thought was a similar error in the past and forcing a redownload had apparently fixed it), so I deleted the .deb files out of /var/cache/apt/archives --- this part didn't go as well as I'd hoped because there was no immediate attempt to redownload anything (I just got the same error), and this is when I tried apt-get -f install which may or may not have screwed up the state of those 5 packages. thanks again to everyone for the assistance, you're all great, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrading in sid
Thanks again for explaining everything. After continuing through a few more upgrades (actually, I got the word that I should now be using safe-upgrade, so was using that when I remembered), I'm now almost fully up to date (kde wants to uninstall itself when I try to upgrade kdebase, so I'm putting that off for a week or so to see if it works better after available packages are built on the other end). I really appreciate all the assistance, ~c Daniel Burrows wrote: On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 09:09:53AM -0500, charlie derr [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: aptitude-create-state-bundle doesn't apparently exist on my system -- was this a relatively recent addition to aptitude? (it may have been a year or slightly longer since I've upgraded aptitude) Yes, it was added in version 0.4.6. All it really does is make a compressed archive of the following files/directories: /var/lib/aptitude /var/lib/apt /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin /etc/apt /var/lib/dpkg/status ...but I find it's easier to tell people to run it than to tell them to make a compressed archive of a half-dozen cryptically named items. :) Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrading in sid
Sven Joachim wrote: On 2008-01-02 17:42 +0100, charlie derr wrote: After continuing through a few more upgrades (actually, I got the word that I should now be using safe-upgrade, so was using that when I remembered), I'm now almost fully up to date (kde wants to uninstall itself when I try to upgrade kdebase, so I'm putting that off for a week or so to see if it works better after available packages are built on the other end). That might take a while. Apparently the i386 buildd has been down for ten days at least, and the whole KDE team is running amd64. :-( maybe I should attempt an amd64 install again (I do have an alternate / partition on this machine where I attempted to do this when it was new (over a year ago) -- I got it mostly working but the mouse was wonky (it almost worked, but it was very hard to successfully select text) and the clock ran twice as fast as it was supposed to and I gave up trying to research the answers to those two issues -- maybe they're fixed by now and simply booting back to that partition and upgrading everything will work). I'd put testing in my sources.list and install kdebase from there. i don't think i'll do that -- there's no new feature that I'm missing, so I'll probably just wait thanks in any event for the info, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome won't uninstall because I messed up dpkg by mixing and matching apt-get and aptitude incorrectly (used to be Re: upgrading in sid)
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/31/07 15:48, charlie derr wrote: [snip] Of course, I would do all this from the (real) console, not a GNOME terminal window. you're just chicken :-] Real Men use the console. I'm not sure what Real Women use. Yeah, I used to think that way too. But I find that a full-featured X environment is definitely preferrable to the command-line when I have an option (yeah I *can* do everything from a single console if I have to (as long as screen and emacs are installed), but I'm a lot more efficient with a mouse and graphics, etc...). I'm at the point where I really don't believe that very many folks are actually browsing the internet regularly with a text-only browser from a command line. But who knows, maybe there're more Real Men out there than I'm guessing... (i'm still in the same original openbox session I started in a couple days ago (my one concession was to not do this from my usual busy (50-100 application windows spread across 4 desktops) KDE session)) i did take the extra step of doing my upgrade from within a screen session (inside konsole, not gnome-terminal) Lastly, I'd *never* use aptitude. It appears (to me at least) that that's an irrational bias you have there. Irrational? I was last irrational in... in... well, it's been a *long* time since I've been irrational. aptitude (and wajig) likes to be more than slightly aggressive in what else it wants to remove when you remove a top level (not meta-) package. ahh, right, I do remember that argument being used (in favor of refusing to switch out apt-get for aptitude in general), but I never really bought it -- first of all, I found it helpful to have packages pruned out when I probably never used them, and for the odd case where something I wanted was removed, I never minded simply reinstalling once I realized it was missing -- also, my understanding is that this is a configurable option that can be set in some config file to act any way one wants (the problem was the people were complaining about aptitude's default setting being problematic -- seemed like a really nitpicky complaint to me if it's actually a tuneable parameter and not hard-coded to lock one in to that behavior) Recent versions of apt-get strike a nice balance by listing the packages that become orphanable by a remove, and helpfully suggests running apt-get autoremove. And just install the ones you want to keep, so that apt-get stops pestering/reminding you to autoremove them. Do you really feel like apt-get is fully supported? The last things I remember seeing from developers on the lists (not even very recently) seemed to indicate that use of apt-get is now (and has been for some time) deprecated. Of course, if you're not running sid/unstable, that might not yet be true for the version you're using, but... be well, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gnome won't uninstall because I messed up dpkg by mixing and matching apt-get and aptitude incorrectly (used to be Re: upgrading in sid)
http://www.assembla.com/wiki/show/door/SidGnomeRefusingToDie It seemed like there was too much output there to want to burden the list with it all (but I thought someone clueful might still possibly catch something I haven't) my working assumption at this point is that last night either manually deleting the deb files for 5 packages (from the /var/cache/apt/archives directory) and/or the fact that immediately after trying that I then tried running apt-get -f install (when I'd only been using aptitude previously) created the problem -- but i'm not sure I care all that much about how I mucked things up, it's rather getting things straightened out that's important -- so does anyone have any tricks they'd suggest for how I get all of these uninstalls to complete despite the fact that gconftool-2 is very unhappy and barfs complaining about a lib mismatch problem with gzopen64 (the root of the problem is with libxml2.so.2, so perhaps the package . But at this point I'd rather that I accept that all gnome stuff will be forever broken on this box than have aptitude continue to be borked. If someone has an elegant solution, of course I'm happy to consider that too, but I'd appreciate any thoughts (no matter how outrageous/potentially-destructive). here's a small snip for those who don't want to follow the link at the top: gconftool-2: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: gzopen64 dpkg: error processing capplets-data (--remove): subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 127 dpkg: error processing desktop-base (--remove): Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal. and as I pasted this I realized I ought to see where that file comes from and the package is libxml2 if I try to do aptitude remove libxml2 the first couple dozen choices to resolve dependencies leave it at its current version (and I'm unsure whether aptitude might actually give me a better choice if i keep clicking n -- it does seem to be able to indefinitely suggest new solutions) if I try to upgrade libxml2 I get this (desktop-base (along with shared-mime-info is one of those 5 packages I talked about above (that I incorrectly removed the .deb files from my archives directory) : Resolving dependencies... E: I wasn't able to locate file for the desktop-base package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. The following actions will resolve these dependencies: Remove the following packages: deskbar-applet epiphany-extensions evince evolution evolution-common evolution-data-server evolution-exchange gnome-mount gnome-power-manager gnome-screensaver gnome-volume-manager nautilus-cd-burner rhythmbox sound-juicer sun-java5-jre yelp Install the following packages: bittorrent [3.4.2-11 (unstable, now)] fam [2.7.0-13 (unstable)] gnome-mime-data [2.18.0-1 (unstable, now)] libavahi-glib1 [0.6.21-4 (unstable, now)] libbonobo2-0 [2.20.2-1 (unstable, now)] libbonobo2-common [2.20.2-1 (unstable, now)] libbonoboui2-0 [2.20.0-1 (unstable, now)] libbonoboui2-common [2.20.0-1 (unstable)] libcamel1.2-10 [1.12.2-1 (unstable, now)] libebook1.2-9 [1.12.2-1 (unstable, now)] libecal1.2-7 [1.12.2-1 (unstable, now)] libedataserver1.2-9 [1.12.2-1 (unstable, now)] libgnome-desktop-2 [2.20.2-1 (unstable, now)] libgnome2-0 [2.20.1.1-1 (unstable, now)] libgnomeui-0 [2.20.1.1-1 (unstable, now)] libgnomeui-common [2.20.1.1-1 (unstable)] libgnomevfs2-0 [1:2.20.1-1 (unstable, now)] libgnomevfs2-extra [1:2.20.1-1 (unstable, now)] libgtkhtml3.14-19 [3.16.1-1 (unstable)] libnotify1 [0.4.4-3 (unstable, now)] libpanel-applet2-0 [2.20.2-2 (unstable, now)] libsoup2.2-8 [2.2.104-1 (unstable, now)] libwnck-common [2.20.2-1 (unstable)] libwnck22 [2.20.2-1 (unstable)] libxres1 [2:1.0.3-1 (unstable, now)] python-gnome2 [2.20.1-1 (unstable)] rdesktop [1.5.0-3+cvs20071006 (unstable)] Upgrade the following packages: gtkhtml3.14 [3.14.2-1 (now) - 3.16.1-1 (unstable)] libgnome2-common [2.18.0-4 (now) - 2.20.1.1-1 (unstable)] libgnomevfs2-common [1:2.18.1-2 (now) - 1:2.20.1-1 (unstable)] notification-daemon [0.3.7-1 (now) - 0.3.7-1+b1 (unstable)] Leave the following dependencies unresolved: libgnomevfs2-0 recommends gnome-mount meld recommends yelp Score is -4309 thanks much in advance for any that are still tuned in -- it's a bit of a muddle, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrading in sid
Daniel Burrows wrote: On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 05:28:48PM -0500, charlie derr [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: It's been a while, but I just attempted a massive upgrade (executing aptitude upgrade) and ended up with: Errors were encountered while processing: The interesting thing is why these packages failed, which would be in the output preceding the list of failed packages. i did it in a screen session (which i still have access to). I'll put that info up somewhere (again there's a ton of output) if it's truly important. For the moment I'm going to concentrate on answering accurately all of your below queries. And thanks :-] Unpacking replacement desktop-base ... gconftool-2: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: gzopen64 dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 127 dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ... gconftool-2: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: gzopen64 dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/desktop-base_4.0.4_all.deb (--unpack): It's pretty clear from that that your problem is that your version of libxml2 is failing to load because it doesn't contain gzopen64. yeah, i understood that intuitively, but you rephrased it better than i could It would be interesting to know what ldd /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2 says. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cache/apt$ ldd /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2 linux-gate.so.1 = (0xb7fb7000) libdl.so.2 = /lib/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2 (0xb7e7e000) libz.so.1 = /usr/local/lib/libz.so.1 (0xb7e6a000) libm.so.6 = /lib/i686/cmov/libm.so.6 (0xb7e44000) libc.so.6 = /lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0xb7cf7000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x8000) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cache/apt$ Some hits on Google suggest that people get this problem when they have another version of libz hanging out in $LD_LIBRARY_PATH (e.g., in /usr/local/lib or /lib). I didn't intentionally install anything in addition to anything debian did (I definitely didn't recompile my own version of glibc or anything else on this box, it's all deb binaries loaded from sid repositories). echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH gets me nothing (both as root and as ni) The above is in response to apt-get -f install (what used to work in the past for fixing issues, maybe that's my mistake?) That ought to work fine. If I try to upgrade one of those packages individually with aptitude install shared-mime-info then the below happens: The following packages will be upgraded: gnome-session libgnome2-common libgnomevfs2-common shared-mime-info 4 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 795 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/2706kB of archives. After unpacking 1461kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] y Writing extended state information... Error! E: I wasn't able to locate file for the desktop-base package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root? Erk. That means something is hosed in your apt cache. I would guess this isn't related to your earlier problems, but it would be interesting to know whether running aptitude update fixes this problem, it hasn't yet (subsequent upgrades/removals won't all succeed (all of the gnome related stuff is foobared)) -- this is why i've and to see the output of apt-cache showpkg desktop-base. i included shared-mime-info as it's also messed up (along with 3 additional gnome packages) and part of the logjam -- and thanks very much for helping, this is all greek to me at this point, but it's fun to try to follow along: delete:~# apt-cache showpkg desktop-base shared-mime-info Package: desktop-base Versions: 4.0.4(/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages) 4.0.3(/var/lib/dpkg/status) Reverse Depends: nautilus,desktop-base 0.2 gnome-session,desktop-base libgnome2-common,desktop-base 0.3.16 xfce4-session,desktop-base 0.3.20 xfce4,desktop-base nautilus,desktop-base 0.2 libgnome2-common,desktop-base 0.3.16 gnome-session,desktop-base gnome-desktop-environment,desktop-base gdm-themes,desktop-base 0.3.15 Dependencies: 4.0.4 - librsvg2-common (0 (null)) gnome (16 (null)) kde (16 (null)) xfce4 (16 (null)) wmaker (0 (null)) 4.0.3 - librsvg2-common (0 (null)) gnome (16 (null)) kde (16 (null)) xfce4 (16 (null)) wmaker (0 (null)) Provides: 4.0.4 - 4.0.3 - Reverse Provides: Package: shared-mime-info Versions: 0.22-2(/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages) 0.21-2(/var/lib/dpkg/status) Reverse Depends: nautilus,shared-mime-info xdg-utils,shared-mime-info libgnomevfs2-common,shared-mime-info xlog,shared-mime-info xdg-utils,shared-mime-info tracker,shared-mime-info thunar,shared-mime-info rox-filer,shared-mime-info 0.16 revelation,shared-mime-info planner,shared-mime-info pcmanfm-nohal,shared-mime-info pcmanfm,shared-mime-info
Re: upgrading in sid
Thanks much for the help. gzopen64 should be defined in /usr/lib/libz.so.1; something is wrong with this on your system. Post the output of the following commands: dpkg -l zlib1g ldd /usr/bin/gconftool-2 | grep libz ldd /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2 | grep libz nm -D /usr/lib/libz.so.1 | grep gzopen64 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cache/apt$ dpkg -l zlib1g Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name Version Description +++-=-=-== ii zlib1g1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-8 compression library - runtime [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cache/apt$ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cache/apt$ ldd /usr/bin/gconftool-2 | grep libz libz.so.1 = /usr/local/lib/libz.so.1 (0xb7be) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cache/apt$ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cache/apt$ ldd /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2 | grep libz libz.so.1 = /usr/local/lib/libz.so.1 (0xb7dc) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cache/apt$ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cache/apt$ nm -D /usr/lib/libz.so.1 | grep gzopen64 3f80 T gzopen64 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cache/apt$ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome won't uninstall because I messed up dpkg by mixing and matching apt-get and aptitude incorrectly (used to be Re: upgrading in sid)
Charlie, In this kind of situation, I would # apt-get --purge remove the problematic package(s), then # apt-get update and try again. as Daniel and Florian have pointed out elsewhere in this thread, my problem is with libxml2 being completely borken at the moment (I think) and aptitude is just showing me the manifestation (because of all the calls to gconftool-2 in postinstall scripts for gnome apps and libs). Of course, I would do all this from the (real) console, not a GNOME terminal window. you're just chicken :-] (i'm still in the same original openbox session I started in a couple days ago (my one concession was to not do this from my usual busy (50-100 application windows spread across 4 desktops) KDE session)) i did take the extra step of doing my upgrade from within a screen session (inside konsole, not gnome-terminal) Lastly, I'd *never* use aptitude. It appears (to me at least) that that's an irrational bias you have there. I'm going with the debian/GNU party line which says aptitude is superior to apt-get in some way (though I still don't think there's a drop-in replacement for apt-get source functionality to make aptitude do the right thing, so I would still use apt-get there, but now that i know aptitude install -f is the equivalent of apt-get -f install, I really use apt-get for nothing except downloading source packages, aptitude happily works just fine (until this event, and I think it was really the number of upgradeable packages I was trying to do at once, and the unfortunate circumstance of not reading the apt-listbugs output closely enough to catch that this libxml2 problem was gonna bite me)) -- i'm confident it'll get solved though (and if not, a reinstall isn't a huge burden for me). - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA thanks, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrading in sid
ii zlib1g1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-8 compression library - runtime [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cache/apt$ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cache/apt$ ldd /usr/bin/gconftool-2 | grep libz libz.so.1 = /usr/local/lib/libz.so.1 (0xb7be) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cache/apt$ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cache/apt$ ldd /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2 | grep libz libz.so.1 = /usr/local/lib/libz.so.1 (0xb7dc) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cache/apt$ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cache/apt$ nm -D /usr/lib/libz.so.1 | grep gzopen64 3f80 T gzopen64 You have the latest version of the zlib1g package, but you also have a non-Debian libz.so.1 in /usr/local/lib/ (probably an older version installed together with some non-Debian software). Until September 2007 the default behavior would have been to use the Debian library in /usr/lib/ (therefore you might not have noticed this problem earlier), but now the default is for /usr/local/lib/ to take precedence. You have to get your system to use the proper file when libz.so.1 is needed. The most straightforward approach is to delete or to rename /usr/local/lib/libz.so.1 and to run ldconfig (without arguments as root). Afterwards you should see something like this: $ ldconfig -pNX | grep 'libz\.so' libz.so.1 (libc6,x86-64) = /usr/lib64/libz.so.1 libz.so.1 (libc6) = /usr/lib/libz.so.1 libz.so (libc6) = /usr/lib/libz.so [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /sbin/ldconfig -pNX | grep 'libz\.so' libz.so.1 (libc6) = /usr/local/lib/libz.so.1 libz.so.1 (libc6) = /usr/lib/libz.so.1 libz.so (libc6) = /usr/local/lib/libz.so libz.so (libc6) = /usr/lib/libz.so [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ I'm not aware of ever intentionally doing anything to install any 64bit libs. My whole system is running as 32-bit. $ ldd /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2 | grep libz libz.so.1 = /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0xb7e43000) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ldd /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2 | grep libz libz.so.1 = /usr/local/lib/libz.so.1 (0xb7e83000) This tells you that /usr/lib/libz.so.1 will be used from now on, and we already verified that this one has gzopen64 defined (the nm ... command above). This should allow you to (un)install all the currently broken packages. I think I'd like to understand why this first attempt didn't work. aptitude is still very broken, full output here at http://www.assembla.com/wiki/show/door/AptitudeUpgradeStillFailing If you need to keep /usr/local/lib/libz.so.1 then you have to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to make sure that /usr/lib/ has a higher priority than /usr/local/lib/. I would advise not to keep alternate versions of Debian-provided libraries around, at least not if they have the same soname. If you want to check which other local libraries might cause problems in the future, you can run: ldconfig -pNX | grep local i'm totally lost by now (but eagerly trying to keep up), here's the output from that one: $ /sbin/ldconfig -pNX | grep local libz.so.1 (libc6) = /usr/local/lib/libz.so.1 libz.so (libc6) = /usr/local/lib/libz.so libsvn_ra_local-1.so.1 (libc6) = /usr/lib/libsvn_ra_local-1.so.1 liblocalkonnector.so (libc6) = /usr/lib/liblocalkonnector.so so should i get rid of all those (or rename them) and see if that helps? thanks again, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
upgrading in sid
It's been a while, but I just attempted a massive upgrade (executing aptitude upgrade) and ended up with: Setting up debhelper (5.0.63) ... Errors were encountered while processing: libgnomevfs2-extra libgnomevfs2-0 libedata-book1.2-2 libedata-cal1.2-6 libgnome2-0 gnome-about libbonoboui2-0 libexchange-storage1.2-3 libgnomeui-0 libgnome-window-settings1 libecal1.2-7 libebook1.2-9 evolution-data-server libpanel-applet2-0 libgnome-desktop-2 gnome-control-center bug-buddy libgnome-menu2 libedataserverui1.2-8 libcamel1.2-10 libslab0 capplets-data dia-common dia metacity-common python-gmenu gnome-menus libmetacity0 libgnomekbd-common libgnomekbd1 metacity libgnomekbdui1 sun-java5-jre sun-java5-bin sun-java5-plugin So I fiddled a bit without success. Unpacking replacement desktop-base ... gconftool-2: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: gzopen64 dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 127 dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ... gconftool-2: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: gzopen64 dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/desktop-base_4.0.4_all.deb (--unpack): subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 127 gconftool-2: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: gzopen64 dpkg: error while cleaning up: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127 Preparing to replace gnome-session 2.18.2-1 (using .../gnome-session_2.20.2-1_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement gnome-session ... gconftool-2: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: gzopen64 dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 127 dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ... gconftool-2: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: gzopen64 dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-session_2.20.2-1_i386.deb (--unpack): subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 127 gconftool-2: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: gzopen64 dpkg: error while cleaning up: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127 Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/shared-mime-info_0.22-2_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/libgnomevfs2-common_1%3a2.20.1-1_all.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/libgnome2-common_2.20.1.1-1_all.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/desktop-base_4.0.4_all.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-session_2.20.2-1_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) The above is in response to apt-get -f install (what used to work in the past for fixing issues, maybe that's my mistake?) If I try to upgrade one of those packages individually with aptitude install shared-mime-info then the below happens: The following packages will be upgraded: gnome-session libgnome2-common libgnomevfs2-common shared-mime-info 4 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 795 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/2706kB of archives. After unpacking 1461kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] y Writing extended state information... Error! E: I wasn't able to locate file for the desktop-base package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root? This is my main workstation, and I'd like to get it sorted out. If I have to uninstall all of gnome or something in order to do that, that's fine (I figure it'll be possible to reinstall most of it later if I need it (and anyhow it's my third choice in desktop environment behind kde and openbox)). I'm sure I can google and figure out the exact technical detail that's causing my failure, but it seems prudent to ask here about what steps I ought to take to try to remedy the problem with the least amount of hassle. thanks so much in advance for any advice, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrading in sid
The above is in response to apt-get -f install (what used to work in
the past for fixing issues, maybe that's my mistake?)
It is better to use aptitude install -f if aptitude is your package
manager of choice.
Anyway, it seems that you have a problem running update-gconf-defaults,
which is called in many installation scripts, the ones of desktop-base
among them. This might be caused by an issue with the libxml2 package or
it could be the symptom of a more general problem with python on your
system.
Thanks much for that explanation.
Let's see, which output do you get from these two commands:
dpkg -l libxml2 gconf2 | awk '/^[^D|+]/{print $1,$2,$3}'
delete:~# dpkg -l libxml2 gconf2 | awk '/^[^D|+]/{print $1,$2,$3}'
ii gconf2 2.20.1-2
ii libxml2 2.6.30.dfsg-3
/usr/bin/python -V
delete:~# /usr/bin/python -V
Python 2.4.4
If I try to upgrade one of those packages individually with aptitude
install shared-mime-info then the below happens:
The following packages will be upgraded:
gnome-session libgnome2-common libgnomevfs2-common shared-mime-info
4 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 795 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/2706kB of archives. After unpacking 1461kB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] y
Writing extended state information... Error!
E: I wasn't able to locate file for the desktop-base package. This might mean
you need to manually fix this package.
E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?
You used apt-get to break the desktop-base package behind aptitude's
back and that seems to have confused aptitude. I would hope that this
problem goes away once you have fixed the desktop-base package.
Thanks again for letting me know that it was my mixing apt-get and aptitude
that probably screwed me up.
I'll look into fixing the desktop-base package.
~c
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Re: upgrading in sid
charlie derr wrote:
The above is in response to apt-get -f install (what used to work in
the past for fixing issues, maybe that's my mistake?)
It is better to use aptitude install -f if aptitude is your package
manager of choice.
Anyway, it seems that you have a problem running update-gconf-defaults,
which is called in many installation scripts, the ones of desktop-base
among them. This might be caused by an issue with the libxml2 package or
it could be the symptom of a more general problem with python on your
system.
Thanks much for that explanation.
Let's see, which output do you get from these two commands:
dpkg -l libxml2 gconf2 | awk '/^[^D|+]/{print $1,$2,$3}'
delete:~# dpkg -l libxml2 gconf2 | awk '/^[^D|+]/{print $1,$2,$3}'
ii gconf2 2.20.1-2
ii libxml2 2.6.30.dfsg-3
/usr/bin/python -V
delete:~# /usr/bin/python -V
Python 2.4.4
If I try to upgrade one of those packages individually with aptitude
install shared-mime-info then the below happens:
The following packages will be upgraded:
gnome-session libgnome2-common libgnomevfs2-common shared-mime-info
4 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 795 not
upgraded.
Need to get 0B/2706kB of archives. After unpacking 1461kB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] y
Writing extended state information... Error!
E: I wasn't able to locate file for the desktop-base package. This
might mean you need to manually fix this package.
E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?
You used apt-get to break the desktop-base package behind aptitude's
back and that seems to have confused aptitude. I would hope that this
problem goes away once you have fixed the desktop-base package.
Thanks again for letting me know that it was my mixing apt-get and
aptitude that probably screwed me up.
I'll look into fixing the desktop-base package.
~c
after much fussing (all with aptitude now -- i'm not mixing in any apt-get commands), I've managed to successfully remove a lot of
gnome stuff, but not enough to completely succeed. I've snipped lots of output above this (and in my mind, the gzopen64 thing
seems to be key -- it's certainly repeated once for each of these packages that are now still failing)
Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
A package failed to install. Trying to recover:
Setting up dia-common (0.96.1-6) ...
gconftool-2: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol:
gzopen64
dpkg: error processing dia-common (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of dia:
dia depends on dia-common (= 0.96.1-6); however:
Package dia-common is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing dia (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Setting up metacity-common (1:2.20.1-1) ...
gconftool-2: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol:
gzopen64
dpkg: error processing metacity-common (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libmetacity0:
libmetacity0 depends on metacity-common (= 1:2.20); however:
Package metacity-common is not configured yet.
libmetacity0 depends on metacity-common ( 1:2.21); however:
Package metacity-common is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing libmetacity0 (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Setting up sun-java5-jre (1.5.0-13-1) ...
update-mime-database: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2: undefined
symbol: gzopen64
dpkg: error processing sun-java5-jre (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of metacity:
metacity depends on libmetacity0 (= 1:2.19.5); however:
Package libmetacity0 is not configured yet.
metacity depends on metacity-common (= 1:2.20); however:
Package metacity-common is not configured yet.
metacity depends on metacity-common ( 1:2.21); however:
Package metacity-common is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing metacity (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
dia-common
dia
metacity-common
libmetacity0
sun-java5-jre
metacity
I feel like I could be close to straightening this out.
Is there any way to zero-out aptitude's local configuration/cache/state/whatever because I get the sense that there are still
potential internal inconsistencies due to my mixing tools (apt-get and aptitude).
thanks again in advance for any thoughts,
~c
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Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Nov 6, 2007 8:53 PM, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: emacs (comes with a free operating system) Me don't understand. The long-standing joke is that emacs is a great editor, but a mediocre operating system. Most often pitted against its arch-rival vi in religious wars, emacs is (in that context) somewhat bloated according to its detractors. The fact that one can do email, webbrowsing, and work in a command-line environment simultaneously (all of that and much more without ever leaving emacs) is what has given rise to this mythos. Personally I feel that any editor that can't do M-x psychoanalyze-pinhead is woefully incomplete, but that's just me (and I hate getting stuck on a system where all that's available is vi), and this probably isn't the place or time to re-ignite that never ending religious war... be well, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian only sees 885.5 MiB memory
I'm pretty sure the option is HIGHMEM -- grepping a 2.6.18 config file that I used to build a working kernel (that allows the ability to access more than 885M of RAM) finds # CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM is not set CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set CONFIG_HIGHMEM=y hth, ~c Bonnel Christophe wrote: I remember an old option in kernel that asked you which size of ram you think to be used. This option seems to have disappeared now. If you want a 2.6.11 kernel, try to compile the kernel and search for such an option... Christophe Nigel Henry a écrit : On Friday 15 June 2007 16:46, arijit sarkar wrote: On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 08:02 -0500, Gary Rosenfeldt wrote: Hello, I recently installed Debian Etch on my desktop system. My mobo is an abit nf-7s with nforce2 chipset. I have 1 gig of ram installed but debian only sees 885.5 MiB of my ram. Fortunately, I'm not experiencing any stability issues. Anyone know the cause of this oddity. Thanks, Gary It's obvious, your motherboard has 128mb shared memory. So debian sess only 885.5 mb. I also have 1gig RAM and 128 mb as shared graphics memory. My 'system monitor' shows ~885mb. check out your BIOS settings. :-) -- Arijit Sarkar Kolkata, India That's interesting. I was booted up in Lenny using the 2.6.11 kernel, and usually see Gkrellm showing 885Mb of my 1Gb RAM. I've since rebooted with the 2.6.17 kernel , and with that kernel, Gkrellm is showing the full 1005Mb of RAM. The onboard graphics card is a Cyberbladei1 (trident driver). Quite why booting with the 2.6.11 shows 885Mb, and booting with the 2.6.17 shows 1005Mb is a bit bizarre. Probably some kernel thingy. Nigel. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iceweasel and javascripts
BartlebyScrivener wrote: On Apr 24, 12:00 am, Mathias Brodala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so if something does not work you either misconfigured your browser or the specific site just sucks. Well, so I would have thought. But then why does Firefox 2.0.0.3 on Windows XP have no problems rendering the site, but iceweasel 2.0.0.3 on Etch cannot seem to render it? Same settings as near as I can tell. Thanks for any help. bs If you really care, I suppose you could install the firebug plugin in both XP/firefox and etch/iceweasel and compare the results of visiting your bank's page. The webdeveloper plugin might also prove useful. No guarantees that you'll definitively find the answer this way, but what's the harm in trying? good luck, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Daily Updates
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: You never really run just Sid. If you run Sid, then you run testing/unstable (or lenny/sid in this case). This is because as packages propagate from unstable to testing, then they are no longer in unstable. If you only have unstable in your sources.list, you will find that you cannot install certain pacakges, as their dependencies will no longer be available to you. Regards, -Roberto ??? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib This is how I've run my laptop for several years (actually several laptops by now). I can't swear that I've never run into the problem you're describing, as occasionally aptitude tells me that some package is uninstallable and I have to fiddle with uninstalling, reinstalling and/or upgrading the specific dependency packages that are causing the problem, but this has never really been much of a problem for me, and it's almost always just a matter of just a few minutes of fiddling with aptitude. Over the years there may have been one or two times that I've chosen to simply wait a few days (or maybe a week at most) for some new version of some package to be checked in so that I could then install what I wanted, but my memory is that this never happened to any important package that affected my ability to use my laptop. ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using Etch to resize NTFS partitions??
Randy Patterson wrote: On Tuesday 10 April 2007 07:05, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: snippage Also, please don't thread-hijack. I had another response about needing to start a new thread and now this one. I am the one that started this thread with the subject titled Using Etch to resize NTFS partitions and every question that I have asked has been a question about that subject. What is it that I have done wrong here and how have I hijacked my own thread? Randy When I look at the threading in thunderbird, it appears that what you did was reply to a message from Ed G in the Re: Sam Hocevar, is this true? thread and then simply type in a new subject. Instead you should simply compose a fresh email when trying to start a new thread. be well, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sneakernet .deb packages by usb thumb?
Celejar wrote: On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:07:54 -0700 charles norwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2007-03-18 at 19:32 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My desktop debian system is at home with no available internet connection. Work provides internet with no linux. is there any way to aquire .deb packages from the repository and take them home on a usb for install/upgrade? I have poured through the pages with no luck. Install cygwin on the windows box, then use sft to move them to your box at home. No need for cygwin; just use putty - it's excellent. Celejar I'm a big fan of both cygwin and putty, but I doubt either one of them is going to help much with getting files to a non-internet-connected debian machine. ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sirius radio streaming?
At the very end of the process (after signing in with my username/password to the applet in either iceweasel or epiphany), I get the following error from totem: Totem could not play 'mmsh://a1518.I2280061804.c22800.g.lm.akamaistream.net/incredibly_long_url_truncated.asx'. Any clues on how I would get totem to play this apparent .asx file? Is there a different application that would work better? I assume there's lots of ugliness involving non-free codecs or some such, but I just wondered if anyone else had this working and could give some hints. I'm running sid. thanks so much in advance, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sirius radio streaming?
charlie derr wrote: At the very end of the process (after signing in with my username/password to the applet in either iceweasel or epiphany), I get the following error from totem: Totem could not play 'mmsh://a1518.I2280061804.c22800.g.lm.akamaistream.net/incredibly_long_url_truncated.asx'. Any clues on how I would get totem to play this apparent .asx file? Is there a different application that would work better? I assume there's lots of ugliness involving non-free codecs or some such, but I just wondered if anyone else had this working and could give some hints. I'm running sid. thanks so much in advance, ~c Answering my own question (obviously should have googled *first*), I've now installed mplayer and run the script to get the non-free components, so I think I'm close. The final hurdle seems to be getting totem to let go of the association to .asx files. Installing mozilla-mplayer interestingly didn't pry totem away in iceweasel. I'm thinking now that the file associations are maintained in the KDE control center. Does that sound right? (obviously I use KDE on my desktop) ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sirius radio streaming?
snippage I'm thinking now that the file associations are maintained in the KDE control center. Does that sound right? (obviously I use KDE on my desktop) ~c It seems strange to me that if you use KDE you'd even have totem. I don't only use KDE, I have a lot of other stuff installed (I almost never login directly to gnome, but sometimes I'll use openbox instead of KDE (especially when my main purpose is to run vmware to get at a virtual machine)). So I'm not at all surprised that totem is there (it works well for a surprising number of things, but not quite everything it thinks it ought to work for). Yes, KDE holds file associations in the control center, but Iceweasel handles them too. You need to tell Iceweasel how to handle the file. Edit - Preferences, Content tab, Manage button. I don't know if there's a bug here or not, but I can't figure out how to actually add a new file association with that interface (modify and delete seem to be the only options available). Probably there's some preferences file (xml?) somewhere that could be edited directly in my .mozilla/firefox directory to fix this. But it does seem that there ought to be a GUI option for adding a new file association. In poking around, I see a pluginreg.dat file that looks like it's probably the ticket, but at the top there's a warning not to edit it, as it's a generated file. Anyone got any clues on this? If you have mplayer, you can dump totem because mplayer can play anything that totem can. You might want to look into kaffeine as well. That is a popular media player for KDE, as well as kmplayer, which is a kde front-end to mplayer. Yeah, I installed kmplayer, but konqueror won't even get the www.sirius.com homepage to load properly (perhaps because of flash?). Oh, the choices...how does one know which app is best for each task? Recommendations from others (including myself) are only so good. The best method is to try for yourself and pick your favorite. Yeah, thanks very much for the suggestions. I'm still a little baffled about how much of a grip totem seems to have on my media files. In the KDE control center I've modified the file associations so that mplayer is at the top of the list of applications for opening .asx files, and yet iceweasel still continues to try to use totem. thanks again, ~c Joe - -- Registerd Linux user #443289 at http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF+adciXBCVWpc5J4RAr0KAKDM0Rqgg10b49HVl5OPZj1ulCZjLACeIxcm g0Btpe4ISEw6ElbIIpWEzSo= =SOKW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sirius radio streaming?
jef e wrote: charlie derr wrote: Any clues on how I would get totem to play this apparent .asx file? Is there a different application that would work better? I assume there's lots of ugliness involving non-free codecs or some such, but I just wondered if anyone else had this working and could give some hints. Look into Sipie... saves you a lot of trouble with grabbing urls, etc. http://freshmeat.net/projects/sipie/ Requires mplayer, python + one module, wxpython if you want a GUI. Check the readme here: http://eli.criffield.net/sipie/sipie_README It's not pretty, but I've found it to be functional, and makes changing channels tremendously easier. jef Thanks so much, got it up and running quickly and easily. ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 10:32:43PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Unless you are the sort of person who keeps 20,000 messages in a folder or mailbox. I have seen such a thing. does that mean I have a problem? A For whatever it's worth, I'm writing this message using icedove, and there are currently 96179 messages in my inbox. Sorting by thread takes 60 seconds or so, but everything else is pretty quick (i have a high-bandwidth connection to the IMAP mailserver). In the past, I've occasionally been up over 200,000 messages in a single folder without any problem (other than increased slowness when doing things like sorting and/or searching). ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/15/07 15:21, charlie derr wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 10:32:43PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Unless you are the sort of person who keeps 20,000 messages in a folder or mailbox. I have seen such a thing. does that mean I have a problem? A For whatever it's worth, I'm writing this message using icedove, and there are currently 96179 messages in my inbox. Sorting by thread takes 60 seconds or so, but everything else is pretty quick (i have a high-bandwidth connection to the IMAP mailserver). In the past, I've occasionally been up over 200,000 messages in a single folder without any problem (other than increased slowness when doing things like sorting and/or searching). With IMAP, slowness is the only issue (unless your Uni's IT dept uses uw-imap, which uses mbox). No, we use dovecot which stores email files in Maildir format on the server. Thanks for clarifying that though, as I hadn't the energy to scroll up this rather long thread to see that that was the issue under discussion. I still wouldn't want 96,000 emails in my Inbox. Yeah, lots of people tell me that :-] I find that it works pretty well for me though, ~c -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF1NSLS9HxQb37XmcRAt9YAJ0Wcf1MjkMv5GuD8UQYXKVewrYjigCbBlLH 25wnmyt4qAonrLyVbRU7dMw= =dRBO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: yahoo mail and firefox
T wrote: Hi, Do you use yahoo mail, its web interface, regularly? Do you use firefox for that? Have you notice any problems? I access my yahoo mail web interface using firefox almost every day. But I bumped into problem from time to time. Sometimes I have Sorry, Bad Request. Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand. when trying to use any of the yahoo mail command buttons, e.g. delete, mark read, mark as spam, sometimes they just simply don't respond when clicking on them. Today, the yahoo mail command buttons are not responding again (when clicking on them). Moreover, every email turns out completely blank. I tried to select the blank space via dragging the mouse but also nothing there. Only Printable View can show them. The problem does not exist when using epiphany. Have you notice any problems? thanks PS, my firefox: $ apt-cache policy firefox firefox: Installed: 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-1 Candidate: 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-1 I use yahoo infrequently (but usually at least a couple of times a week). I've never seen this error (and I just logged in now and don't see it now either). apt-cache policy firefox firefox: Installed: 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-2 Candidate: 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-2 Version table: *** 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-2 0 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
df discrepencies
On one of the machines that I oversee there is an issue with the df output that I don't understand. here's a part of the output from df -h /dev/sda1 440G 420G 0 100% /backup if i don't use the -h it looks like this: /dev/sda1461293804 440335112 0 100% /backup It appears that there really are 20Gigs free, but that column shows 0 -- can i reliably ignore that column and use subtraction with the previous two to compute the true free space? If I clear up enough more diskspace the 4th column will eventually show more than 0, but it won't be equivalent to the difference of the 2nd and 3rd. My recollection is that rebooting will fix this problem (for a while), but I'd prefer not to have to reboot every couple weeks. This machine is running sarge and that partition is ext3 over a RAID5 array. I do slip up on occasion and allow this partition to completely fill up (not sure if that might be relevant) so that the rsync processes that are writing to it fail (because of no more remaining disk space). thanks so much for any hints, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: df discrepencies
Liam O'Toole wrote: On Mon, 01 May 2006 09:14:03 -0500 Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I'm going on very hazy memory here, but it might give you enough info for googling. If I recall correctly, the system wants at least 10% free for system overhead; as 20Gig is only about 5% of your 440Gig partition, that's why it's showing as 100% used. Why rebooting would change this number is beyond me. This would make sense with a journaling filesystem such as ext3. Immediately after a reboot the journal is empty. Thanks Kent, Liam and Martin for the quick responses. I wasn't entirely clear on the situation -- the machine didn't always show this discrepency, so I don't think it's due to the system overhead sort of thing. I've deleted some more files since my previous email, so here's the current output of df -h /dev/sda1 440G 396G 22G 95% /backup and here's df -i /dev/sda158589184 9980656 48608528 18% /backup so it seems i have plenty of available inodes After rebooting I get: /dev/sda1 440G 396G 22G 95% /backup so that didn't actually fix things like I thought it might -- sorry for the bad info on that in my original email I am absolutely certain that in the past I've seen output similar to the following: /dev/sda1 440G 431G 9G 98% and over time, this degrades to the present situation -- it does appear to me that the 2nd and 3rd columns are definitive (and that the 4th column is in error) because the rsync scripts that ran last night all seemed to succeed in writing to this partition despite the fact that column 4 was reporting 0 as the available disk space. be well, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: strange uid attribute in OpenLDAP
Eugen Wintersberger wrote: Hi there I'm trying to use LDAP to administer the users on our department network. So far, Kerberos works fine, and also storing the user data into LDAP seems to work. However, if I set in an LDIF file the uid attribute to, for instance testuser and add the LDIF file to the LDAP tree, asubsequent ldapsearch yields something like this: . . . . uid::=Xgswqef . . . or something in this way. If I use gq (a GTK program) to search the LDAP tree the uid attribute of the new user looks ok. Has anyone of you an idea whats going on here. thanks Eugen PS: I use a Debain testing system on this machine. The second colon (:) signifies that it's base64 encoded. The client gq (and lots of other clients) will transparently base64 decode any attributes that are stored that way. The ldapsearch client shows you exactly what's stored in the directory. The spec says that any value may (or may not) be base64 encoded. be well, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian-laptop.org
Kevin Coyner wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 06:24:17PM -0400, Philip Schwartz wrote.. I am pleased to announce that debian-laptop.org will be the home of the Debain on Laptops Information and Guide repo. Great idea but way too heavy of a website for me with all that Flash and music. Just my two cents. Wow, I agree (and i'm usually not critical at all of someone else's idea of a busy, fun website). Here's what it looks like in firefox (where i do more browsing than from any other browser, though i regularly use epiphany, konqueror, mozilla, safari, links and lynx as well) http://people.simons-rock.edu/cderr/debian-laptop.png I do think the idea of a debian laptop site is a fantastic one though, and I'll probably start randomly clicking on links to try and find the content pretty quickly even if you don't get rid of all the glitter :-] keep on keepin on, ~c Kevin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XServer Randomly restarting
Kent West wrote: Mr Mike wrote: snip Actually I had no idea what would be relevant and absolutely no idea where to even start.. Thanks for the help... I'll look into these and see if there's anything noteworthy.. snip I'm unsure what he's trying to accomplish with the zcat command; I find no config.gz file in my /proc directory If you set the proper option when building your kernel, it will put a gzipped kernel configuration here (so it turns out to be a great way to get the configuration for how the currently running kernel was build). ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie looking for some answers please...........
Chad wrote: I just installed Debian 3.0 r3. I'm a newbie and looking for some anwers to some of my questions...if someone can anwser one, some, or all Please 1. I know that apt-get is the main utility to add and remove programs (in Debian anyways), also to veiw what is installed on your OS. But what about other packages or applications that are not installed through apt-get. Is there a another utility to tell you want is all installed on your OS, or to keep track of all software/packages/applications installed? i find that dpkg works well -- in order to not truncate the package names, you may want to increase the COLUMNS environment variable, so from the command line: $ export COLUMNS=150 $ dpkg -l that will give you all installed packages 2. How do you check for all running services and how to start/stop system services that are unused? $ ps aux that should give you a list of every running service to start stop, use the scripts in /etc/init.d as an example, to stop apache, you would do # /etc/init.d/apache stop 3. How do you check for all open ports and what programs are using the ports. netstat is probably what you want $ man netstat ought to give you plenty of options 4. What is the common folder Where most software/packages/applications installed into? there's no equivalent to Program Files or Applications if that's what you're looking for -- the executables usually end up in a bin directory (/bin /usr/bin /sbin /usr/sbin /usr/local/bin ) -- other components are scattered throughout the filesystem -- in order to see what files were installed where for a particular package use dpkg -L, i.e. for apache: $ dpkg -L apache 5. Anyone has a good site for descriptions of the configuration files on a linux system. For Example XF86Config-4. I have no idea of what configuration files do what or where they are located. Most configuration files have their own documentation (often inside the file in the form of comments). You may also find that there are more heavily commented example files inside /usr/share/doc/. 6. Where is the boot files? So I can control or know what programs start at boot. inside the /etc/rc*.d directories are a bunch of symlinks to the scripts in /etc/init.d I find update-rc.d to be a useful tool to use for managing this (though you're welcome to create/delete your own symlinks once you understand the paradigm) good luck, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SCPM
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Folkert wrote: | On Wed, 2004-08-18 at 13:49 -0500, Michael Satterwhite wrote: | |-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- |Hash: SHA1 | |This message seems to have gone into the mailing list bit bucket, so I'm |resending it. All help appreciated. | |I'm bringing up a laptop on Debian sarge. I've created the hardwired network |profile and wanted to save it. The problem is that I can't find scpm |anywhere. It's not on my computer, and apt-cache search scpm returns |nothing. | |Either it's done a different way here, or I'm really looking in the wrong |place. Can someone point out where I'm going wrong? | | | Exactly which and what is SCPM? | | Datacard® Smart Card Personalization Manager? | http://www.datacard.com/products/products.jhtml?contentId=86141BmfQmzk3WB | | Is that it? My guess (based on nothing but the context really) was that the OP meant scp. ~c -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBI7ZD2jMec4xgOWsRAg9DAJ9ZegbZ2iPt52SRR2aDZfAEJ6c9gQCfdbR3 zmdiO1VGnhGKvtbVhof25GU= =QNMq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: See what a weak password will get ya?
Paul Stolp wrote:
* dircha [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-07-22 21:48]:
Scarletdown wrote:
| == K
== X
| == P
Anyone else care to add to this little list?
0 == O
$ == S
|-| == H
|_| == U
|_ == L
\/\/ == W
/\/\ == M
|V| == M
|\| == N
|-o-| == tie fighter
{-o-} == tie interceptor
Good plan, I need to improve my ascii art collection.
^ = V or n //well, sort of :-0
! = i
4 = A
= G
3 = E
5 = S
+ = T
i suppose now i ought to look at the rest of the thread too (i didn't
notice where it started)
~c
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Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
Kirk Strauser wrote: At 2004-06-16T06:03:14Z, Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another issue is that more gui and more memory mean more power which translate to less battery time on the laptop. OK, that's a valid point that I won't dispute. I've always bought used laptops and I've yet to get one with a working battery, so I've never personally experienced that problem. :) i'll dispute it :-] i run kde (and gnome and openbox) on my laptop and i like that i can set the screen to turn off completely after two minutes (not disputing there're probably many other ways to do this too, but kde does make it easy, probably gnome does too) also, i don't think the memory consumption of the desktop is all that much weight on the battery life -- much more important (in my experience) is what peripherals are on -- display, soundcard (actively playing seems to draw a lot of power (or at least create a lot of heat) unless there's something plugged into the headphone jack, so maybe i mean the amplifier component of the sound card), usb, etc... of course, ymmv ~c -- free information zealot -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Gentoo users show their intelligence...
Adam Funk wrote: On Saturday 05 June 2004 13:20, Nicholas Lativy wrote: On Thu, Jun 03, 2004 at 03:33:46PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: ...and they're tied with AOL users. http://funroll-loops.org/ All that page does is quote a few stupid things that *some* Gentoo users have said. Considering the vast number of posts on the Gentoo Forums it's inevitable that some of them will be factually incorrect or simply ignorant. As Larry Wall said[1]: I do quarrel with logic that says, Stupid people are associated with X, therefore X is stupid. Stupid people are associated with everything. [1] [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm sure one could even find some stupid posts here (after an exhaustive search). Doesn't even require an exhaustive search -- for instance http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2004/06/msg00091.html (and the post that it's in immediate response to) are both pretty stupid (IMNHO). ~c -- free information zealot -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: backport site
Hector Scaramelli wrote: On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 19:26, Mark Ferlatte wrote: Hector Scaramelli said on Mon, May 24, 2004 at 07:02:42PM -0300: Hi, Can anybody recommend an updated backport site to add to the sources.list file so as to be able to upgrade the kernel and some packages. I am using 2.4.18-bf24. I like backports.org quite a bit. M Thanks for your help. I added to sources.list deb http://www.backports.org/debian stable deb-src http://www.backports.org/debian stable and apt-get update came up with error 404, what else is needed to write after stable? or what am i doing wrong?. You're making assumptions about the form of the answer. It's a website. Visit http://www.backports.org with a browser (links, mozilla, lynx, konqueror, ie, safari, ). Look for the specific packages that you want backports for (there are lots of them, and backport interaction is a tricky thing). If you want a bunch of things, then you probably want to find a packager who has done those backports as a group (actually if you want a bunch of things, you're probably better off with sarge, but you didn't ask that question). I would be hesitant to add several different discrete backport urls to my /apt/sources/list unless i was certain there would be no overlap in affected libraries. good luck, ~c Thanks again Hector -- free information zealot -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How can I make startx start Gnome, instead of KDE?
stan wrote: I'm fighting a rather strange problem that I trigered when I built a new kernel. I've got a amchien that I was running gdm on, and loging in through that I got a Gnome session. Now GDM crashes. But strangley enough startx does not (scratches head). IBut start starts a KDE session. How can I make startx start a Gnome session? Probably in your ~/.xinitrc you have something like /usr/bin/startkde You should comment that out (with a #) and add /usr/bin/gnome-session and you should be good to go. If it's not specified in that file, perhaps 'man startx' would get you started looking for other choices? good luck, ~c -- That's one of the cool things about being a Catholic ... it's a multifaceted experience. If you lose the faith, chances are you'll keep the guilt, so it isn't as if you've been skunked altogether. -Stephanie Plum -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Postgre/PHP installation woes
My recommendation (I didn't see this in your extensive littany of steps taken) is to add the following line to /etc/postgresql/postgresql.conf and then restart postgresql) tcpip_sociket = 1 good luck, ~c Danny O'Brien wrote: Thanks to everyone for the helpful replies (my original post is below, under the line). It appears that PHP is not connecting to our postgre database, as indicated by the following error that appears on the main PHP web page: Parse error: parse error in /var/www/srp/dbconnect.php on line 5 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kde gone
Rick Pasotto wrote: On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 09:02:16PM -0500, Dan Weikert wrote: Any suggestions from those more experienced? I'll be happy to provide any further information but don't be shy about giving explicit instructions. :) After updating I always use the '-s' option to apt-get first before actually doing anything else. apt-get -s upgrade or apt-get -s install [...] This lets you know what apt-get *wants* to do so you can abort without problem. Thanks for that. I always (until now) have done apt-get -u upgrade (which explicitly tells what is about to be done and offers a chance to abort). ~c -- That's one of the cool things about being a Catholic ... it's a multifaceted experience. If you lose the faith, chances are you'll keep the guilt, so it isn't as if you've been skunked altogether. -Stephanie Plum -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.4.24 on ML330
P.Racec wrote: Hi, I'm trying to install a kernel 2.4.24 on HP Proliant ML330. After 'make-kpkg kernel-image' I get the following error make: [stamp-debian] Error 1 (ignored) echo done stamp-debian /usr/bin/make -f debian/rules INCLUDE_KERNEL_MAKEFILE=yes conf_vars make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.24-2.4.24' make[1]: *** No rule to make target `conf_vars'. Stop. make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.24-2.4.24' make: *** [conf.vars] Error 2 What this means? Could some one help me? i think (though i'm far from an expert) that what you want to know is on the lines just above the first one you pasted good luck, ~c Thank you for your time! Paul. PS I didn't subscribe on this list. I --- | Lehrstuhl Theoretische Physik | Department of Theoretical Physics| | Technische Universität Cottbus | Brandenburg University of Technology | | Postfach 101344| PO BOX 101344| | 03013 Cottbus | 03013 Cottbus| | Deutschland| Germany | --- | tel. +49-355-693004 fax. +49-355-693011 | | http://www.physik.tu-cottbus.de/~racec| --- -- http://www.canada.com/winnipeg/story.asp?id=842BBA94-3FF7-4E41-AE2F-A2AF18BE7E7E -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Toshiba Tecra S1
Leonardo Custodio wrote: Has anybody tried to run Debian on a Toshiba Tecra S1? I'm thinking over removing the old OS and placing a 'real' one. Appreciate your response. Sure. I'm answering you right now from mine. The ati radeon mobility 9000 in this model requires X4.3 (from experimental), but it's otherwise running sid. My only gripe is that Intel hasn't yet produced the drivers for the embedded wireless. good luck, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Better program than Putty?
Mark Maas wrote: Hi All, I've been using Putty (Windows) to remotely connect to my Debian box as long as I can remember. Recently though i'm getting tired of the way it works... Does anyone use a program that can handle cut and paste, handle ascii art better etc? Thanks! Mark M Putty will handle cut and paste just fine (it's just probably not in the way you expect). As soon as you select text in a putty window, it's available to the clipboard (just go to your other application and paste as you would normally). To go the other direction, simply right click in your putty window and whatever was in the clipboard buffer will be pasted into the putty session. good luck, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache won't start
Stephen wrote: On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 01:37:01PM -0500 or thereabouts, Adam Aube wrote: snip Could you post the full line in question from httpd.conf? Sure, does this help? Sure does. Try instead using: ServerName barnyard.sweetpig.dyndns.org --- # snip #ServerName new.host.name barnyard.sweetpig.dyndns.org -- Be not afraid of your own subjectivity, just streamline its flow ;) - Youlian Troyanov -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dynamic IP questions?
Vikki Roemer wrote:
On Sat, Jan 10, 2004 at 09:13:55AM -0500, 0debian user wrote:
Also I wanted to run my own web server and mail server but my machine is
not always online so how can I do it?
Go to http://www.dyndns.org/ and sign up there. They give you up to 5
hostnames for free, you just have to update the IP address every time you
redial. That's who I get my 3 hostnames through, and I'm happy with them. :)
I recommend ipcheck.py (apt-get install ipcheck) to update the addy.
However, don't ask me how to *automate* the update script, because I'm still
trying to figure that out myself.
HTH.
Here's the entry in /etc/crontab on my gateway/router machine (that
connects via pppoe to my adsl provider) for those interested in
automating this sort of thing.
0-55/5 * * * * root /root/radscripz/reconnector.py
And the contents of reconnector.py (with my personal details replaced
with something).
file
#!/usr/bin/env python
import os, string, sys, time, smtplib
fi,fo = os.popen2('/sbin/ifconfig','t')
sss = fo.read()
fi.close()
fo.close()
if string.find(sss,ppp0) -1:
sys.exit(0)
ei, eo = os.popen2('/usr/local/bin/start-pppoe', 't')
ei.close()
eo.close()
time.sleep(10)
os.chdir('/root/dyndns')
gi, go = os.popen2('/usr/bin/python /root/dyndns/ipcheck.py -l -i ppp0
dyndns-username dyndns-password dyndns-hostname','t')
gi.close()
res = go.read()
go.close()
mailcon = smtplib.SMTP('mailserver', port=25)
recips = ['address1', 'address2']
mailcon.sendmail('connexor@machine-name', recips, res)
mailcon.quit()
sys.exit(0)
/file
Basically, it runs every five minutes and if the connection has died, it
reconnects, then updates the dyndns stuff and also emails me at several
addresses with the new IP (which is probably redundant, but it does have
the added benefit of providing me with a record of how often I've been
disconnected).
good luck,
~c
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Re: PHP PGSQL
Raquel Rice wrote: On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 08:47:36 -0800 Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 07:45:12PM -0800, Raquel Rice wrote: I'm running Woody. Soon after I installed Debian, I installed PHP4 with MySQL support but not with PostgreSQL. Now I want to include support for PostgreSQL, but I'm not sure how to recompile PHP to include it ... when it was done automatically for me when installed via apt-get. Thanks! I don't know php at all, but I do have php installed with Postgresql and it works. Do you need the php4-pear package installed, perhaps? -- Bill Moseley Thank you for your help, Bill. Compiling PHP and adding new features doesn't bother me. I've done it several times on my non-Debian machine. I'm concerned most about what recompiling will do to my Debian package system. I don't really want to mess anything up there. Have you tried simply #apt-get install php4-pgsql yet? This shouldn't interfere with your php/mysql stuff and it shouldn't require recompiling anything. good luck, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ
Governments don't have as much power to fuck my life up as corporations. Perhaps true in some situations, but from my point of view (as a usian), it's getting harder and harder to tell the two apart. ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xtree for Linux
sid$ apt-cache search xtree ytree - A file manager that looks like Xtree Gold(tm) cool, i remember xtree ~c Gruessle wrote: Somebody told me about a software like xtree gold (msdos software) I used it before but I don't recall it's name or how to install it. xTree Gold is a dos based program where you can have two folders side by side and work with them, like copy move etc. -- Gruessle -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: My email is rejected by some sites
Debian User wrote: maybe i missed something in a previous post... isn't it the purpose to soecify hosts you are allowing to relay w/ the host_accept_relay setting in exim.conf? this will allow you not to be an open relay eventhough you have a dynamic IP address. I think what you missed is that more and more places will not allow you to then deliver mail to them (because you're on a dynamic IP range that they've received spam from). You can certainly run a mailserver on your dynamic IP, but you may have problems delivering things your users want to send to certain domains (and it probably won't get easier in the future). ~c -- if i top posted, i probably did it on purpose, and yes i know my lines might trail out the right end of your mail viewer/client (but only if you have an inadequate one) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sreelal Chandrasenan
Jonathan Melhuish wrote: WTF is going on? Why is this guy bombarding the list with junk? It's not even proper spam! Can somebody block him or something? Cheers, Jon Here's his reply to my note from a few minutes ago. So he obviously wouldn't mind being blocked (if there's anyone paying attention that can help before everything left in some buffer gets sent). Yes there was some problem with my mail client configuration. I fixed it. I am really sorry for the inconvenienece. Thanks for letting me know. Could you please send an email to debian user group list to stop forwarding my email also to the users to delete all my emails? It will be a greate help. thanks Sreelal -Original Message- From: charlie derr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 12:30 PM To: Sreelal Chandrasenan Subject: Re: FW: Audio quality testing with Nero Hi Sreelal, The last couple dozen messages that you've sent to the debian user mailing list (all within the last hour) appear to be some sort of mis-forwarding configuration in your mail client (because it seems that we're all seeing your private correspondence). be well, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XF86Config for ATI Radeon 9000
Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: Okay, so after some googling and help I've installed alien, discover, xserver-common and x-window-system-core, used apt pinning to get XFree86 4.3 and re-ran xf86config 'startx' still fails as does 'kdm' What can I do? for what it's worth, here's what i use for X4.3 on a radeon 9000 (on a toshiba tecra S1) works ok with both 2.4.23 and 2.6.0-test11 ~c ### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION # XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file) generated by dexconf, the # Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the debconf database. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config-4 manual page. # (Type man XF86Config-4 at the shell prompt.) # # If you want your changes to this file preserved by dexconf, only make changes # before the ### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION line above, and/or after the # ### END DEBCONF SECTION line below. # # To change things within the debconf section, run the command: # dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 # as root. Also see How do I add custom sections to a dexconf-generated # XF86Config or XF86Config-4 file? in /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz. Section Files FontPathunix/:7100# local font server # if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi EndSection Section Module LoadGLcore Loadbitmap Loaddbe Loadddc Loaddri Loadextmod Loadfreetype Loadglx Loadint10 Loadrecord Loadspeedo Loadtype1 Loadvbe Loadsynaptics EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver keyboard Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xfree86 Option XkbModel pc104 Option XkbLayout us EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse Driver mouse Option CorePointer Option Device/dev/psaux Option Protocol PS/2 Option Emulate3Buttons true Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Mouse Driver mouse Option SendCoreEventstrue Option Device/dev/input/mice Option Protocol ImPS/2 Option Emulate3Buttons true Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Section InputDevice Driversynaptics IdentifierSynaptics Touchpad OptionCorePointer true OptionDevice/dev/psaux OptionProtocol auto-dev OptionLeftEdge 1900 OptionRightEdge 5400 OptionTopEdge 1900 OptionBottomEdge4000 OptionFingerLow 25 OptionFingerHigh30 OptionMaxTapTime180 OptionMaxTapMove220 OptionVertScrollDelta 100 OptionMinSpeed 0.02 OptionMaxSpeed 0.18 OptionAccelFactor 0.0010 OptionSHMConfig on # Option Repeater /dev/ps2mouse EndSection Section Device Identifier Generic Video Card Driver ati EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Generic Monitor HorizSync 30-75 VertRefresh 50-85 Option DPMS EndSection Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Device Generic Video Card Monitor Generic Monitor DefaultDepth16 SubSection Display Depth 1 Modes 1600x1200 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 4 Modes 1600x1200 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 8 Modes 1600x1200 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 15 Modes 1600x1200 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 16 Modes 1600x1200 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1600x1200
Re: unchecked 31 times
Tom Vier wrote: On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 03:39:16PM -0800, Mark Ferlatte wrote: Is there any need for a /boot partition on modern hardware? Why do you like a seperate boot partition? yes, many bootloaders (aboot, silo, lilo) can only read ext2. I don't think this is completely true. I'm using lilo and / is ext3 (i have no separate /boot partition). ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unchecked 31 times
Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 at 02:41 GMT, Tom Vier penned: On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 03:39:16PM -0800, Mark Ferlatte wrote: Is there any need for a /boot partition on modern hardware? Why do you like a seperate boot partition? yes, many bootloaders (aboot, silo, lilo) can only read ext2. Odd. I use lilo on unstable, and look at what mount says: /dev/hda1 on /boot type ext3 (rw) It occurred to me after posting almost the exact same response that probably Tom was referring to the case where / was either reiserfs or xfs or jfs, or... ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: python problem in unstable
It seems the correct course of action is right there. dpkg: considering removing python in favour of python2.3 ... For me, something like this worked: # apt-get remove python (or maybe it was apt-get remove python2.3) Which will remove a lot of packages (paste the list to a file before you answer Y if you want to reinstall them after). Take my advice with a grain of salt (it's not exact, this issue arose for me about a week ago, and I don't remember for sure whether these are the precise steps), but usually hunting for the conflicting package(s) and removing it/them solves this sort of issue. ~c J.S.Sahambi wrote: When I upgrade my system (Debian/unstable) with dselect or apt-get upgrade I get the following errors about python dependency/conflict. A Few days back there was some mails in the list about the problem and some people said that the python was broken in unstable distribution. Has this problem been solved or not? Since it started I have not been able to install any new package. :( I am pasting the output in the end of email. Thanks JSS Need to get 0B/49.1MB of archives. After unpacking 67.4MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y Preconfiguring packages ... (Reading database ... 128035 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace python 2.3.2-2 (using .../python_2.3.2-6_all.deb) ... Unpacking replacement python ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/python_2.3.2-6_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/doc/python2.3/python-policy.html', which is also in package python2.3 dpkg: considering removing python in favour of python2.3 ... dpkg: no, cannot remove python (--auto-deconfigure will help): gadfly depends on python ( 2.4) python is to be removed. dpkg: regarding .../python2.3_2.3.2-6_i386.deb containing python2.3: python2.3 conflicts with python (= 2.3.2-5) python (version 2.3.2-2) is installed. dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.3_2.3.2-6_i386.deb (--unpack): conflicting packages - not installing python2.3 dpkg: regarding .../python2.3-doc_2.3.2-6_all.deb containing python2.3-doc: python2.3-doc conflicts with python2.3 ( 2.3.2-6) python2.3 (version 2.3.2-2) is installed. dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.3-doc_2.3.2-6_all.deb (--unpack): conflicting packages - not installing python2.3-doc Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/python_2.3.2-6_all.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.3_2.3.2-6_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.3-doc_2.3.2-6_all.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) Some errors occurred while unpacking. I'm going to configure the packages that were installed. This may result in duplicate errors or errors caused by missing dependencies. This is OK, only the errors above this message are important. Please fix them and run [I]nstall again Press enter to continue. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GRUB for Debian
apt-get install grub good luck, ~c Victory wrote: Hello all, How to install GRUB for Debian 3.0r1 in conjunction with kernel-image and kernel-source. By default it's LILO. Regards, Victor, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xfree86 4.3
I've been using Daniel Stone's X 4.3 packages for some time with no problems. Well, actually the machine would lock up periodically when I was using X but that hasn't happened since I stopped using kde on my desktop (more than 2 weeks now, i still use konqueror and konsole from fvwm2 with no problems). I'm running an almost vanilla unstable (except for the daniel stone X packages and a java 1.4 source) which i keep updated. Micha Feigin wrote: On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 22:23, John Holland wrote: Can anyone say how stable the experimental XFree86 4.3 packages are? Is there any reliable way to install this into debian? I'm running a mix of stable and unstable. Thanks, John Holland I've been running the version from experimental for quite some time now and it seems ok. I've had a few crashes under load but I'm not sure if its X or the window manager. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: root login How ???
It's probably not a full and complete answer to your question, but I find what works for me is to log in to the graphical user environment of your choice as a regular user and then execute su in one of the terminals (xterm, gnome-terminal, konsole, whatever...) inside the gui (not su -). I can then execute a graphical program (as root) by initiating it from that terminal. hth, ~c Victory wrote: I found out that after debian 3.0r1 installed, try to login as root and passwd at the GNOME Desktop Manager and it said The system administrator is not allowed to login form this screen How to login with root account to run some utility from graphic mode ??? Regards, Victor, -- If you haven't got an agenda, chances are good that you're not doing much useful. --Stephen Frost -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful (was Re: Look at
Thanks very much for the very informative post. We also use postfix here. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I should note that there are a number of emails that are bounced as undeliverable from real people because of my UCE controls being so strict. Generally these are few and can easily be corrected by adding their address to the postfix access.db file. How do you identify these situations? Is there anything short of grepping mail.log for rejects and then trying to guess which might be spam and which might be real? I understand that technically-savvy users will recognize the bounce and possibly reply to spam@our-domain (as we direct in our reject/bounce) but it seems to me quite possible that there will be some sizeable portion of users who don't have the inclination (or understanding) to go ahead and do that (as we direct in our reject/bounce). thanks very much in advance, ~c -- If you haven't got an agenda, chances are good that you're not doing much useful. --Stephen Frost -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LDAP
Tom Allison wrote: If I install openLDAP, what tools do I use to configure the various databases? If you're converting accounts from an existing machine, you'll probably want to check out the migration tools from padl.com. For administration, it's pretty essential to understand the command line utilities (slapadd, ldapadd, ldapmodify, ldapsearch, etc...). I also like the Java LDAP browser, though there are several other tools that come highly recommended as well (GQ comes to mind). In addition, if you're going to be doing any bulk operations, it's quite helpful to be facile with a scripting language (at least comfortable enough to do simple text parsing to read and write .ldif files). I'm interested in NSS/PAM (passwd, group, hosts...) The primary source of information is man pages and configuration files (cat /etc/pam.d/ssh; man pam; cat /etc/ldap/slapd.conf; man slapd; ) I'm a big fan of mailing lists, so you might want to check the archives of the debian-ldap list at snowman.net and the openldap-software list at openldap.org. There are tons of books out there that will give you an overview on ldap -- pick one if you're a book person. and also an LDAP address book for Mozilla. I personally haven't done this, so can't help with suggestions, but maybe someone else will chime in. But I'm not even sure where to start RTFM-ing. If it's any consolation I haven't found the manual myself yet either :-] -- but there are lots of good resources out there. Just thoroughly reading through whatever you can find on www.openldap.org and www.padl.com should give you a decent start. help? good luck, and go ahead and ask more questions if you have them, ~c -- If you haven't got an agenda, chances are good that you're not doing much useful. --Stephen Frost -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pipes, dpkg and default screen width (sort of)
Hi, Often I find myself executing the following: $ dpkg -l '*foo*' to find all packages with foo in the name. When instead I look for only installed foo packages as follows: $ dpkg -l '*foo*' | grep ii the output is truncated, and if there's a foo package with a particularly long package name, I won't see the full name. Is there an envrironment variable I could set to prevent this? Or some other workaround simpler than redirecting the first command to a temporary file (and then using grep on that)? thank you so much in advance, ~c -- If you haven't got an agenda, chances are good that you're not doing much useful. --Stephen Frost -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
