Re: HOWTOs to txt..

1999-05-04 Thread homega
I think all Howtos and mini- are a bit too much for printing... is there
any reseller who sells hard copies of the whole set?

Horacio.
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Re: basic question on splitting partitions

1999-05-02 Thread homega
~ I have a 3.2 GB hard drive and 16-bit addressing, so it's partitioned
~ into a C drive of about 2 GB and a D drive for the rest of the space.
~ I'd like to keep Windows 95 on the C drive while I work on installing
~ Linux on D.
~ 
~ From reading the installation instructions it sounded like I should
~ create a Swap partition within D.  So I created a system floppy with
~ the FIPS directory on it.  Upon execution it displayed the partition
~ table showing partition 1 consisting of 2047 MB and partition 2
~ consisting of 1047 MB.  It asked which partition to split, and I chose
~ 2.  The resulting error message said:  Can't split extended
~ partitions.  FIPS can not yet split extended DOS partitions.

I'm not sure if there's something I'm misunderstanding here... you
already have your HDD partitioned into two, and you have windoze
installed into it (which you want to keep).  If that's correct, I can't
see what you need fips for (unless you want to reclaim some space from
your first partition).

All you have to do is move any data from d: to c:, leaving thus the
second partition empty, and then install Linux in the second partition.
The Linux setup will take you through the right steps (including
repartitioning the second drive to create both Linux swap part. and
Linux native part.)

Regards

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Qmail question

1999-04-29 Thread homega
I'm currently using smail as a MTA, but I'd like to give another one a
try as soon as I get my slink CDs delivered.  I thought of giving qmail
a try, but since there's no binaries (just sources), why is it packed as
a .deb?  will that work like a .tar.gz file, and which options should I
pass to dpkg?

TIA

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Re: Copying system to another disk

1999-04-28 Thread homega
Micha Feigin dixit:
~ I want to copy the whole system to another disk to run on another
~ computer (after  copy it i can take care of configuration). Seems to be
~ easier and shorter then downloading about 300 megs.
~ I was wondering how  do i go abou doing this.
~ If anyone knows the answear or can point me to an apropriate HOWTO.
~ 
~ Another problem is that it will probably no longer be on drive C and
~ would reside together with win95. Where is the information on setting
~ this up? 

/usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade

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Real need for upgrades?

1999-04-28 Thread homega
Hi,

I started using Debian 1.3 for a short while, a few months later 2.0
came out, so I ordered it, and made a reinstall;  now I'm waiting for
2.1 to arrive (still... damn post!), and I'll try not to reinstall, just
to upgrade (that's the way it should be, right?).

As I see it, releasing new versions can take place more than twice a
year.  While ppl are waiting for the next official release, they keep
gradually upgrading their systems from the ftp server, so by the time
the new release is official, they already have their systems greatly
upgraded but they still re-upgrade ... and with some packages they
downgrade since they already installed from the version after next.  Is
it all that necessary?

The same goes for new kernel releases.  While I see some using the very
latest Linux kernels (2.2.x), others still use older versions of the
kernel (2.0.2x) and they seem to be quite happy with them.  Same goes
for this:  unless there is a specific new feature (module) in a newer
kernel version, is there much point in upgrading it?

With M$, OS or applications upgrades were, most times, a matter of $$$,
which I hated;  but this is obviously not the case here.

Is there any pointer where to see what the differences from one
distribution release to another are?  and for kernels?

Regards,

Horacio.
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Re: lilo, map and system.map

1999-04-28 Thread homega
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit:
~ 
~ The standard procedure is to make a symlink between /System.map and
~ /boot/System.map-x.y.z (assuming that you're using the x.y.z kernel).
~ If you have more than one kernel on the system, you're supposed to
~ have a System.map-x.y.z file in /boot for each kernel x.y.z that you
~ want to be able to boot.

Is there any technical reason for the /vmlinuz symlink (or a /System.map
symlink)?  By telling lilo.conf where they are... isn't that good
enough?

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Re: Compilando kernel...

1999-04-27 Thread homega
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit:
~ 
~ Ya descomprimí las fuentes del kernel, todo bien (gracias a quien me
~ ayudo aqui). Me situo en /usr/src/linux:
~ 
~ make menuconfig (ok)
~ make dep (ok)
~ make clean (ok)
~ make bzImage
~ 
~ Hasta aqui llego. Luego de mucho texto saltando por la pantalla, se
~ detiene de repente:
~ 
~ gcc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11
~ 
~ make[3]:  [dir.o] Error1
(...)
~ 
~ Dos veces lo he intentado, y en ambas me da el error distinto (por
~ ejemplo, la primera vez la lista comenzaba en make[2].
~ 
~ Que estoy haciendo mal???
*
Imagino que nada.  A mí también me pasa con bastante frecuencia, hasta
que al final consigo compilar el núcleo.  Inténtalo varias veces;  para
evitar pasar cada vez por la misma configuración (make config), puedes
guardar /usr/src/linux/.config (por ejemplo en /tmp/), luego, desde
/usr/src/linux/ haces:
# make mrproper
# cp /tmp/.config /usr/src/linux/
# make oldconfig
# make dep
# make clean
# make zImage (o bzImage)
# make modules
# make modules_install

# cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-dragon01
# cp /usr/src/linux/System.map /boot/System.map-dragon01

# cd /etc
editar lilo.conf y añadir:

image=/boot/vmlinuz-dragon01
root=/dev/hdxn (donde esté, vg. hda2)
label=lin01 (o como quieras llamarlo)
read-only

guardarlo, y ejecutarlo:
# lilo

Luego reinicias, y cuando aparezca la línea lilo:, tecleas:
lin01 (o como lo hayas nombrado en label)

*¡Ah!  antes que nada (bueno, después de haber instalado los fuentes,
renombrado el directorio, y haber recreado el enlace simbólico linux al
directorio de fuentes), en README dice:

- make sure your /usr/include/asm, /usr/include/linux, and /usr/include/scsi
  directories are just symlinks to the kernel sources:

  cd /usr/include
  rm -rf asm linux scsi
  ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386 asm
  ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux linux
  ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/scsi scsi

o sea, que borres esos tres ficheros en /usr/include y los vuelvas a
crear como enlaces a sus correspondientes en el directorio de los
fuentes.

Si después de todo esto (prueba varias veces) no te funcionara, mira si
tienes las versiones correctas del compilador gcc y de binutils.
Según el Kernel-faq:

2. What are the recommended compiler/binutils for building 2.0.x
   kernels and 2.2.x kernels?
  + (RRR) The recommended compiler is gcc 2.7.2.x. The
  recommended binutils is 2.8.1.0.23, or 2.9.1.0.3 and newer.
  Avoid binutils versions from 2.8.1.0.25 to 2.9.1.0.2, these
  were beta releases and known to be buggy. See the Changes
  file for details.

Un saludo,

Horacio.
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Re: Compilando kernel...

1999-04-27 Thread homega
Conrado Badenas dixit:
~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
~  *¡Ah!  antes que nada (bueno, después de haber instalado los fuentes,
~  renombrado el directorio, y haber recreado el enlace simbólico linux al
~  directorio de fuentes), en README dice:
~  (...)
~  o sea, que borres esos tres ficheros en /usr/include y los vuelvas a
~  crear como enlaces a sus correspondientes en el directorio de los
~  fuentes.
~ 
~ ¡Pues, sí! Eso es lo que se decía en los antiguos README's (lo estoy
~ leyendo ahora en /usr/doc/kernel-source-2.0.34/README.gz) y según Linus
~ eso es totalmente desaconsejable.
~ 
~ Menos mal que en los nuevos kernels los README's
~ (/usr/doc/kernel-source-2.2.1/README.gz) ya no dicen eso. Parece ser que
~ ya han hecho caso a los consejos de Linus respecto a estos links (sus
~ palabras están incluidas en /usr/doc/kernel-source-*/README.headers.gz)

... pues ya lo podrían haber quitado del README de los núcleos
anteriores a 2.2.x ...

Un saludo,

Horacio.
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Re: LOG messages

1999-04-25 Thread homega
Bob Hilliard dixit:
~ 
~  dmesg|your favorite pager is the easiest way to see these
~ messages.

nope!  dmesg shows only one portion of the bootin log.

Regards

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Re: Help!!!

1999-04-25 Thread homega
George Bonser dixit:
~ On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, William R Pentney wrote:
~ 
~  
~  Okay, much worse problem now. man doesn't work, period.
~  
~  Ask it man anything, and it will say No manual entry for anything.
~  
~  What do I do?
~ 
~ install the manpages package?

having anything.n.gz in /usr/man/man(n)/?

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Re: X Window

1999-04-25 Thread homega
Richard Harran dixit:
~ That is the name of the configuration file:  the setup program uses all
~ lowercase letters:
~  xf86config

Also XF86Setup, but I believe this one would only work if you have
xserver_svga (or xserver_vga16, or any of those two, not sure) installed.
You may install it together with the xserver you'll be using, configure,
and then have it removed it:

dpkg --purge xserver...

Regards

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Re: xwin

1999-04-25 Thread homega
Jason Winters dixit:
~ How can I get it so that xwin does not start up when I boot up?

From /etc/X11/config:

run-xconsole
allow-user-resources
allow-user-modmap
allow-user-xsession
allow-failsafe
use-sessreg
no-start-xdm

Regards

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Re: the ~ files

1999-04-24 Thread homega
Khalid EZZARAOUI dixit:
~ 
~ I would like to know if it is possible to delete all file ending by the
~ symbol ~
~ with the command without risk :
~ rm -R *~
~ I have more and more of them every day.

I guess it is (just guess).  If you use vim you can tell the editor not
to do any backup files (.vimrc).

Horacio
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Re: Instalacion del kernel

1999-04-23 Thread homega
Angel Vicente Perez dixit:
~ 
~ ¿No seria mas conveniente crear el link como vmlinuz.fb, para hacer despues
~ una configuracion del lilo.conf a mano?. De esta manera, no se tocaria el
~ nucleo vigente.

¿es realmente necesario hacer el enlace simbólico en / a la nueva
imagen?  Yo simplemente hago que lilo.conf apunte a:
image=/boot/vmlinuz-nuevo

Un saludo,

Horacio
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Re: make modules question

1999-04-23 Thread homega
Stephen Pitts dixit:
~  
~  homega:/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot# make modules
~  make: *** No rule to make target `modules'.  Stop.
~  
~  what about the new modules?  `lsmod' returns nothing at all:
~  
~  homega:~$ lsmod
~  Module PagesUsed by
~  
~ Modules are in /lib/modules/'kernel version'. make modules_install installs
~ modules into this directory. Use kernel-package, it automates all of this
~ and compiles kernels into '.deb' files for easy installation.

This is what I have in /lib/modules/
2.0/misc/
devtrace
iBCS

2.0.34/-- I can see most modules here (foo.o?)

2.0.35/
block/
rd.o
misc/
lp.o
modules.dep
net/
bsd_comp.o

I really chose more modules while running `make config', both compiled
in the kernel and as installable modules.

BTW, I did run `make modules' from /usr/src/linux/, the above (from
/usr/src/.../boot/) was run later on.

Thanks

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slink dir: binary-hurd-i386?

1999-04-23 Thread homega
I've read binutils 2.9.1-0.2 is broken or faulty, and the suggestion is
to get 2.9.1-0.3
I found the package in ftp.debian.org/.../sid/main/bin/binary-hurd-i386
what's the reason behind adding hurd to binary-i386?
is it safe to install that package from sid?

TIA

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make modules question

1999-04-22 Thread homega
Hi,

after compiling a new kernel, `make mrproper', `make config', `make
dep', and `make clean', I run `make modules' with this result:

homega:/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot# make modules
make: *** No rule to make target `modules'.  Stop.

what about the new modules?  `lsmod' returns nothing at all:

homega:~$ lsmod
Module PagesUsed by

Where are the modules (new and old)?

TIA

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Re: linux paritition error

1999-04-21 Thread homega
Emil Soleyman-Zomalan dixit:
~ 
~  Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table.
~  Syncing disks.
~  Re-read table failed with error 16: Device or resource busy
   
~  Reboot your system to ensure the partition table is updated.
~  
~  I have Debian booting from /dev/hda3 and the partition I am trying
~  to make work is /dev/hda1.

May be it was mounted and you have to unmount it first?

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Re: Lotus Notes apps???

1999-04-21 Thread homega
John Gay dixit:
~ 
~ he had a look at Lotus' site, and they say that work is in progress.
~ I was just wondering if anyone knew of anything that could be used.

I had a look at Lotus site yesterday (hoping they might have plans to
release Lotus 123 for Linux), but saw no indication whatsoever.

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Re: Upgrading gcc, libc6 and others from hamm to slink

1999-04-20 Thread homega
John Foster dixit:
~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
~  
~  I've downloaded (from Slink):
~  bin86_0.14.3-1.deb (and I already have binutils_2.9.1-0.2 installed)
~  cpp_2.7.2.3-7.deb (BTW, what's cpp_2.91.66-0slink1_alpha.deb from proposed
~  upgrades?)
~  gcc_2.7.2.3-7.deb
~  gcc-docs_2.7.2.3-7.deb
~  glibc-doc_2.0.7.19981211-6.deb
~  libc6_2.0.7.19981211-6.deb
~  make_3.77-4.deb
~  make-doc_3.77-4.deb
~  
~ upghrading from hamm to slink is a snap:
~ 
~ 1.as root open an internet connection
~ 
~ 2.open dselect, from the first menu choose apt and choose the stable
~ version (probably already selected)
~ 
~ 3. quit dselect
~ 
~ 4.run apt-get dist-upgrade
~ 
~ 5.go take a nap or do it overnight.

I haven't had a look to apt yet.  I must admit I don't feel at ease with
deselect, and I like the way dpkg works: dpkg --info... depends, suggests,
recommends, conflicts... and for a full upgrade... slink has to arrive sooner
or later (and I've got some potato .debs already installed).
Anyone knows where dbg is in slink?

Thank You

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Re: Self-extracting compressed binaries in Linux?

1999-04-20 Thread homega
Carl Mummert dixit:
~  
~  Is there any program that can create compressed self-extracting
~  executables a la PKLite in Linux? Anyone know of any? Just curious.
~ 
~ SHAR(1)   SHAR(1)

Isn't shar (and by extent any self extracting) supposed to be a bit of a
security hole?  I've read about a trojan being easy to get through with a
shar file.

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Re: More problems compiling kernel

1999-04-20 Thread homega
John Foster dixit:
~ -
~ Im just curious, what are you doing? A partial upgrade or an initial
~ install. If you are planning to upgrade an existing system INCLUDING the
~ kernel you should use dselect, choose the apt option and pick the stable
~ version of debian from the menu. It is a lot safer and easier the trying
~ to pick and choose what you need, This is especially true if you are new
~ to linux or in a reasonale hurry :-) If you have a stable system and a
~ good internet connection you can do this overnight and have a new setup
~ the next day.

In principle, just a partial upgrade, thought I thought upgrading libc6 might
help (I recently couldn't upgrade to the latest gnupg version due to hamm's
libc6 not being fit for it).  I will finally upgrade the entire system, but
LSL messed up my slink CDs order (about a month ago) and they will only be
sending it today (so I'll still have to wait for over a week or so).

I just wanted to compile a new kernel, but after much trying, I got a compiler
error, which is why I'd like to upgrade gcc and almost anything related.

Regards

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Re: linux

1999-04-20 Thread homega
Avril Dieno dixit:
~ Hi, My name is Leland Dieno and I am looking for a program like linux
~ for my older 286. I really don't know much about computers so if you can
~ help me that would be great!

Minix:

http://thompson.oit.umass.edu/INFO.html

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Re: Help! More problems compiling kernel

1999-04-19 Thread homega
~ 
~  by doing a make clean after make dep you are clean out all that you
~  just did.
~  
~ Actually, make mrproper is what cleans out everthing. make clean removes
~ object files and kernel images and such. Do an ls -a after make clean
~ sometime. You should still see .depend, .config, etc.

So, I'm doing the right steps in the correct order:
(as root)
cd /usr/src
rm linux

tar zxvf linux-2.0.35.tar.gz
or, in another case:
tar Ixvf linux-2.0.35.tar.bz2

mv linux linux-2.0.35
or
mv linux kernel-source-2.0.35

cd \linux
make mrproper
make config
make dep
make clean
make zImage
or
make bzImage

and that's it since I get the error (after a while) and the image is not
generated at /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/

If it's of any help, I include the .config file generated by `make config'.

Also, I have installed:

bin86 0.13.0-4
binutils 2.9.1-0.2
libc6 2.0.7.19981211
make 3.76.1-8
ncurses3.4-dev 1.9.9g-8.8
patch 2.5-2

which, I believe, it's all I need to compile kernel 2.0.35 on a Debian 2.0
machine... or?

Thanks

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#
# Automatically generated make config: don't edit
#

#
# Code maturity level options
#
# CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL is not set

#
# Loadable module support
#
CONFIG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y
# CONFIG_KERNELD is not set

#
# General setup
#
# CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set
CONFIG_NET=y
# CONFIG_MAX_16M is not set
CONFIG_PCI=y
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y
CONFIG_KERNEL_ELF=y
# CONFIG_M386 is not set
# CONFIG_M486 is not set
CONFIG_M586=y
# CONFIG_M686 is not set

#
# Floppy, IDE, and other block devices
#
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y

#
# Please see Documentation/ide.txt for help/info on IDE drives
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_IDE is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDETAPE=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEFLOPPY=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDESCSI is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_PCMCIA is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD640 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RZ1000 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_TRITON is not set
CONFIG_IDE_CHIPSETS=y

#
# Note: most of these also require special kernel boot parameters
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_ALI14XX is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DTC2278 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HT6560B is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_QD6580 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_UMC8672 is not set

#
# Additional Block Devices
#
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=m
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD is not set
# CONFIG_PARIDE is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD is not set

#
# Networking options
#
# CONFIG_FIREWALL is not set
# CONFIG_NET_ALIAS is not set
CONFIG_INET=y
# CONFIG_IP_FORWARD is not set
# CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST is not set
CONFIG_SYN_COOKIES=y
# CONFIG_IP_ACCT is not set
# CONFIG_IP_ROUTER is not set
# CONFIG_NET_IPIP is not set

#
# (it is safe to leave these untouched)
#
# CONFIG_INET_PCTCP is not set
# CONFIG_INET_RARP is not set
# CONFIG_NO_PATH_MTU_DISCOVERY is not set
CONFIG_IP_NOSR=y
CONFIG_SKB_LARGE=y

#
#  
#
# CONFIG_IPX is not set
# CONFIG_ATALK is not set
# CONFIG_AX25 is not set
# CONFIG_NETLINK is not set

#
# SCSI support
#
# CONFIG_SCSI is not set

#
# Network device support
#
CONFIG_NETDEVICES=y
CONFIG_DUMMY=y
# CONFIG_EQUALIZER is not set
# CONFIG_PLIP is not set
CONFIG_PPP=m

#
# CCP compressors for PPP are only built as modules.
#
CONFIG_SLIP=y
# CONFIG_SLIP_COMPRESSED is not set
CONFIG_SLIP_SMART=y
# CONFIG_SLIP_MODE_SLIP6 is not set
# CONFIG_NET_RADIO is not set
# CONFIG_NET_ETHERNET is not set
# CONFIG_TR is not set
# CONFIG_FDDI is not set
# CONFIG_ARCNET is not set

#
# ISDN subsystem
#
# CONFIG_ISDN is not set

#
# CD-ROM drivers (not for SCSI or IDE/ATAPI drives)
#
# CONFIG_CD_NO_IDESCSI is not set

#
# Filesystems
#
CONFIG_QUOTA=y
CONFIG_MINIX_FS=y
# CONFIG_EXT_FS is not set
CONFIG_EXT2_FS=y
# CONFIG_XIA_FS is not set
CONFIG_NLS=y
CONFIG_ISO9660_FS=y
CONFIG_FAT_FS=y
CONFIG_MSDOS_FS=y
# CONFIG_UMSDOS_FS is not set
CONFIG_VFAT_FS=y
CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_437=y
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_737 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_775 is not set
CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_850=y
CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_852=y
CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_855=y
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_857 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_860 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_861 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_862 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_863 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_864 is not set
CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_865=y
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_866 is not set
CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_869=y
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_874 is not set
CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_1=y
CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_2=m
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_3 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_4 is not set
CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_5=m
# 

Re: More problems compiling kernel

1999-04-19 Thread homega
Wayne Topa dixit:
~ 
~  Subject: Re: Help! More problems compiling kernel
~  Date: Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 02:43:38PM +0200
~ 
~ In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
~ 
~ ln -s kernel-source-2.0.35 linux
~  
~ ls -l should show you that linux - points to kernel-source-2.0.35
~ 
~  cd \linux*** without the link (ln -s ) there isn't a linux
~ dir after you did the  mv linux kernel-source-2.0.35

I forgot to write it down here, but I surely did it.  I've found many problems,
downloaded kernels from different places (.gz and .bz2), fixed myself wrong
headers (probably corrupted due to line noise and/or during source installation)
... Finally I got one error message about the compiler, so I've decided to
upgrade as much as I can.

I've downloaded (from Slink):
bin86_0.14.3-1.deb (and I already have binutils_2.9.1-0.2 installed)
cpp_2.7.2.3-7.deb (BTW, what's cpp_2.91.66-0slink1_alpha.deb from proposed
upgrades?)
gcc_2.7.2.3-7.deb
gcc-docs_2.7.2.3-7.deb
glibc-doc_2.0.7.19981211-6.deb
libc6_2.0.7.19981211-6.deb
make_3.77-4.deb
make-doc_3.77-4.deb

I hope there's nothing else missing, and not having any trouble upgrading all
that load.  I've also tried to upgrade gdb (I've got 4.17-0.1), but haven't
been able to find it.
It would be much better to upgrade to Slink at once, but I've been waiting for
more than a month for LSL to deliver the CDs.

One final question... following /usr/src/linux/README instructions, I removed
asm/, linux/, and scsi/ from /usr/include/ and remade them as symlinks to
asm-i386/, linux/, and scsi/ in /usr/src/linux/include/linux/ ... but if I now
removed the kernel source... what will it be?  orphan symlinks?  will that be a
problem?

Horacio
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Upgrading gcc, libc6 and others from hamm to slink

1999-04-19 Thread homega
After much trouble trying to compile a 2.0.35 kernel on a hamm 2.0.34 machine,
I've decided to upgrade some stuff.  Will this be enough, or would I need
anything else?  Will it cause any trouble in hamm? (touching libc6 scares the
hell out of me!)

I've downloaded (from Slink):
bin86_0.14.3-1.deb (and I already have binutils_2.9.1-0.2 installed)
cpp_2.7.2.3-7.deb (BTW, what's cpp_2.91.66-0slink1_alpha.deb from proposed
upgrades?)
gcc_2.7.2.3-7.deb
gcc-docs_2.7.2.3-7.deb
glibc-doc_2.0.7.19981211-6.deb
libc6_2.0.7.19981211-6.deb
make_3.77-4.deb
make-doc_3.77-4.deb

I hope there's nothing else missing, and not having any trouble upgrading all
that load.  I've also tried to upgrade gdb (I've got 4.17-0.1), but haven't
been able to find it.
It would be much better to upgrade to Slink at once, but I've been waiting for
more than a month for LSL to deliver the CDs.

TIA

Horacio
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Re: New Kernel install (II)

1999-04-18 Thread homega
Thanks everyone, I got lilo dual booting the two kernels.  I'm having some
trouble since the new kernel does not recognize hdd as a block device, and
therefore I can't mount my iomega zip drive.  I've checked both
/boot/config-2.0.35 and /boot/config-2.0.34, and this might be the cause:

# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEFLOPPY is not set

I thought this kernel option was this other kernel option was the one for the
zip drive:

CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDETAPE=y

Also, during booting I'm getting some warnings: can't locate modules...
one of them is vfat, but I can mount a floppy with `mount -t vfat ...' ???
another is cdrom, but I can mount cdrom.

I ran lsmod and got:

homega:/boot$ lsmod
Module PagesUsed by

Are there no modules loaded???

Last, if I try to mount a DOS formatted disk, it mounts but:

homega:~# mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy
Unable to load NLS charset cp437(nls_cp437)
^^^  ???
and the same for `mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /floppy'
`mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /floppy' is working ok.

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Help! More problems compiling kernel

1999-04-18 Thread homega
I'm having problems with compiling a new kernel 2.0.35 on a Debian 2.0 (2.0.34)
machine.  I've tried downloading the kernel a couple of times, but after
`make config', `make dep', and `make clean', when I do `make bzImage',
eventually I get the following error:

In file included from /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.35/include/asm/processor.h:11,
from /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.35/include/linux/sched.h:81,from readdir.c:11:
/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.35/include/asm/math_emu.h:54: parse error before `'
/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.35/include/asm/math_emu.h:55: warning: function
declaration isn't a prototype
make[2]: *** [readdir.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.35/fs'
make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.35/fs'
make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2
homega:/usr/src/linux#

Please, could you help me with this?  Also, the first time I tried to install
the latest downloaded sources with `tar zxvf', the system completely stopped
and had to press the restart switch (I could switch terminals, but no ^C, nor
any other key would work).

TIA

Horacio
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New Kernel install

1999-04-17 Thread homega
It seems I've finally succeeded into compiling the kernel successfully (cross
fingers).  Now, for installation, I have to:

# cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.35
# cp /usr/src/linux/System.map /boot/System.map-2.0.35
# cp /usr/src/linux/.config /boot/config-2.0.35

Next, remove /vmlinuz symlink to /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.34, and create a new symlink
/vmlinuz pointing to /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.35.

If all this is correct so far, what's the point in running lilo to update it?
In fact, lilo already point to /vmlinuz:

boot=/dev/hda2
root=/dev/hda2
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
delay=20
image=/vmlinuz
label=Linux
read-only

How about the other places lilo.conf point to?  /boot/boot.b and /boot/map,
haven't been changed, should they?

TIA

Horacio
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New Kernel install (II)

1999-04-17 Thread homega
I believe it's possible to maintain both kernel and have a dual boot (eg. one
for kernel-2.0.34 and another for kernel-2.0.35)... how do I go about this with
lilo?

TIAYA

Horacio
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Can't load modules [Re: Kernel compile OK]

1999-04-17 Thread homega
The new kernel seems to load ok with a lilo dual bootup, but I get a message
saying it can't load some modules... if I run `lsmod' I get the following output

homega:~$ lsmod
Module PagesUsed by
homega:~$

So, does it mean no modules have been loaded?  What do I have to do next?

TIA

Horacio
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Corel Debian/GNU [Re: Busco a Debian...]

1999-04-16 Thread homega
Enrique Zanardi dixit:
~ 
~ ¿Os habéis enterado ya de lo de Corel Debian GNU/Linux?

Yo no, ¿qué tal si lo cuentas?  (a ver si hay suerte y han portado Corel Draw).

Horacio.
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Re: Corel Debian/GNU [Re: Busco a Debian...]

1999-04-16 Thread homega
Enrique Zanardi dixit:
~ 
~ Se trata de algo que se lleva cocinando desde hace unos meses, pero
~ básicamente consiste en que van a usar Debian como base para su propia
~ distribución de Linux. Quieren añadirle amigabilidad a base de mejorar
~ la instalación, hacer una selección de programas, integrar el KDE y cosas
~ así... Lo mejor (en mi opinión) es que hablan de aportar parte de sus
~ mejoras de vuelta al proyecto Debian, con lo cual nos beneficiaremos
~ todos, no sólo sus clientes. 
~ 
~ Por otro lado, no está mal que haya más distribuciones populares que usen
~ el formato deb. Así contrarestamos la moda de anunciar programas para
~ Red Hat Linux (como si no fuesen a funcionar en las demás... :-P ).
~ 
~ No es que no tenga mis pequeños miedos frente a esta implicación tan
~ fuerte de una empresa en principio ajena a nuestro mundillo... pero eso
~ es porque soy muy paranóico. :-)

¿Miedo a algo como esto?

Microsoft Corporation anuncia el próximo lanzamiento de una nueva suite de
productos basados en Linux.  Microsoft ha hecho público su propósito de apoyar
el software de libre distribución bajo licencia GPL.

Microsoft Linux Suite 2000 incluirá programas recientemente portados a Linux
tan populares como Word, Excel, Access, y hasta Internet Explorer.  Un portavoz
oficial de MS Corp. declaró esta mañana que éste es un primer paso hacia
nuestro firme propósito de soporte al desarrollo abierto.  Estamos en
conversaciones para contratar en Microsoft a personas tan claves en el
desarrollo de Linux como pueden ser Linus Torvalds o Alan Cox;  asimismo
estamos estudiando el modo de desviar fondos hacia las organizaciones que hasta
ahora han estado trabajando en estos proyectos, mediante la adquisición de
paquetes de acciones de forma mayoritaria en proyectos varios tal como puedan
ser Gnome o OpenStep de modo que puedan colaborar activamente con nuestro
equipo de desarrolladores en proyectos más amplios de interfaces gráficas.

Hasta el momento MS Corp. no ha dejado entrever sus intenciones en lo relativo
al precio final de mercado de Microsoft Linux 2000, tan sólo se han aventurado
a comentar que ... estamos estudiando la posibilidad de, en un futuro, poner
a disponibilidad de centros educativos y estudiantes unas licencias especiales
con ofertas especiales, probablemente basados en una versión más asequible del
producto.  En este aspecto, y dentro de lo que será Microsoft Linux Suite 2000,
hemos hecho un esfuerzo para lanzar una versión especial, MS Linux Light 2000,
que está orientada a un amplio sector del público que no requiere las
prestaciones de un sistema operativo multitarea, sino tan sólo necesite de la
funcionalidad y la amigabilidad de programas sólidos y estables como los que
hace tiempo ofrece Microsoft.

Al ser requerido insistentemente sobre el precio de los nuevos productos, el
portavoz de Microsoft acabó declarando que ... no tenemos intención de
incrementar precios sobre productos ya exsitentes, y como prueba de ello,
seguimos adhiriéndonos a la filosofía de la Licencia Pública GNU;  El usuario
mantendrá el valor de su dinero con la adquisición de la suite completa.  Así
pues, el precio final seguirá siendo el que hasta ahora había sido para el
sistema operativo Linux;  no existirá un precio real añadido pues éste sólo
se debe a la adquisición de la interfaz gráfica de Windows, y los programas que
componían la suite de Microsoft Office.  Piense en el coste actual, por
separado, de todo ello y se dará cuenta de nuestra firme decisión de
estabilidad en cuanto a precios.  La guinda a todo esto la pone MS Internet
Explorer, actualmente el navegador más rápido y seguro, que se distribuirá de
forma gratuita y como parte integral de Microsoft Linux Suite Pro 2000.  De
modo adicional, los usuarios de Microsoft Linux Suite Light 2000 podrán
adquirir el navegador de forma gratuita, aunque no integrado en la suite, sino
con la compra adicional de Microsoft Internet Plus, que incluye programas para
la conexión a internet y el uso del correo electrónico como sendmail, procmail,
fetchmail, en combinación con MS Outlook.

Nota:  lo siento, pero leí algo parecido el 1 de Abril, fool's day ( = día de
los tontos, algo así como Todos los Santos) y me pareció gracioso a la vez que
ingenioso.

Un saludo,

Horacio
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error installing kernel source

1999-04-16 Thread homega
Hi,

I tried to unpack/install kernel 2.0.35 source tarball in /usr/src, and it gave
me the following error (with `tar zxvf linux-2.0.35.tar.gz'):

gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--crc error
tar: Child returned status 1
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors

though it has created linux/ dir and, I guess, everything within it.

What went wrong?

TIA

Horacio
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FW: Problem with debian-user-list? [Hiba: error installing kernel source]

1999-04-16 Thread homega
I just sent a message to debian-user@lists.debian.org, and it made it through
to the list straight away, but I also go this reply from somewhere else.

I SENT the message to and only to debian-user, it was not a reply or else.
What does this mean?

Horacio.

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:56:45 +0200
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Rem: _eZT_a_lEVELET_lATTAM_mAR

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Kernel compiling errors

1999-04-16 Thread homega
I just had an error while running `make zInstall':

gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.0.35/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 
-fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe -m486 -malign-loops=2 
-malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586  -c -o ide.o ide.c
{standard input}: Assembler messages:
{standard input}:170: Error: Unknown pseudo-op:  `.long0.lc8'
make[3]: *** [ide.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.35/drivers/block'
make[2]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.35/drivers/block'
make[1]: *** [sub_dirs] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.35/drivers'
make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2

Actually, I ran by mistake `make modules' before than `make zInstall' ... does
that make a difference?  What now... should I start from scratch or may I start
from any point?

TIA

Horacio
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Kernel: Make config errors (First time compile)

1999-04-15 Thread homega
Hi,

I've just started to try compiling kernel 2.0.35 on a Debian 2.0 (2.0.34)
machine, and just tried `make config' and got the following error(s):

consolemap.c:303: uni_hash.tbl: No such file or directory
consolemap.c: In function `con_set_default_unimap':
consolemap.c:404: `dfont_unitable' undeclared (first use this function)
consolemap.c:404: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
consolemap.c:404: for each function it appears in.)
consolemap.c:406: `dfont_unicount' undeclared (first use this function)
consolemap.c:397: warning: `j' might be used uninitialized in this function
consolemap.c:398: warning: `p' might be used uninitialized in this function
make[3]: *** [consolemap.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.35/drivers/char'
make[2]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.35/drivers/char'
make[1]: *** [sub_dirs] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.35/drivers'
make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2
You have new mail in /var/spool/mail/root
homega:/usr/src/linux-2.0.35#

Can anyone help me with it?

TIA

Horacio

P.S.  I want to try the `make config' method first, then I'll try `make
menuconfig' and `make kpkg'.
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Re: Resizing ext2 filesystems

1999-04-15 Thread homega
Max dixit:
~ I have a problem in that I'm quickly running out of space in /usr but
~ I have tons of space left in /home.  Here's what df shows:
~ 
~ Filesystem   1k-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
~ /dev/sda1   497667 35357436608   7% /
~ /dev/sda5   497667385312 86653  82% /var
~ /dev/sda6  2478138   2271514 78508  97% /usr
~ /dev/sda7  4616953643170   3734818  15% /home
~ 
~ Obviously, I didn't estimate the filesystem sizes correctly to begin
~ with.  At this poit, does anyone know of a way to resize them so that
~ some of the space from /dev/sda7 can be added to /dev/sda6?  I have
~ heard of resize2fs but it appears that it's not available other than
~ as part of Partition Magic.  Is there anything else out there?

How about the following:  tarzip /home to a tape drive (like iomega zip) and
then repartition it ... one to untarunzip /home, the other one you might call
it /usr2 and symlink it to /usr ... not sure this would work, just wait until
someone else comments on it.

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Re: Kernel: Make config errors (First time compile)

1999-04-15 Thread homega
This is what I've got installed (and think I need):

bin86 0.13.0-4
binutils 2.9.1-0.2
gcc 2.7.2.3-4.8
kernel-package 4.11
kernel-source-2 2.0.34-4
libc6-dev 2.0.7t-1
make 3.76.1-8
ncurses3.4 1.9.9g-8.8
patch 2.5-2

but I thought the kernel-package was required to install with kpkg, I'll
upgrade that one ... if there's anyone else you might think of, please let me
know.

Thank you

Alan Tam dixit:
~ Hi,
~ 
~ Have you installed all the packages mentioned according to the 
dependencies
~ and recommends of kernel-package 6.05 and don't forget the bin86 package as 
well on
~ intel x86 platforms.
~ 
~ Cheers.
~ 
~ Alan
~ 
~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
~ 
~  Hi,
~ 
~  I've just started to try compiling kernel 2.0.35 on a Debian 2.0 (2.0.34)
~  machine, and just tried `make config' and got the following error(s):
~ 
~  consolemap.c:303: uni_hash.tbl: No such file or directory
~  consolemap.c: In function `con_set_default_unimap':
~  consolemap.c:404: `dfont_unitable' undeclared (first use this function)
~  consolemap.c:404: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
~  consolemap.c:404: for each function it appears in.)
~  consolemap.c:406: `dfont_unicount' undeclared (first use this function)
~  consolemap.c:397: warning: `j' might be used uninitialized in this function
~  consolemap.c:398: warning: `p' might be used uninitialized in this function
~  make[3]: *** [consolemap.o] Error 1
~  make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.35/drivers/char'
~  make[2]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
~  make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.35/drivers/char'
~  make[1]: *** [sub_dirs] Error 2
~  make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.35/drivers'
~  make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2
~  You have new mail in /var/spool/mail/root
~  homega:/usr/src/linux-2.0.35#
~ 
~  Can anyone help me with it?
~ 
~  TIA
~ 
~  Horacio
~ 
~  P.S.  I want to try the `make config' method first, then I'll try `make
~  menuconfig' and `make kpkg'.

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rxvt in windowmaker

1999-04-13 Thread homega
Hi,

how can I have a console program opened running in a rxvt as in an x-term on
windowmaker?

ie.  I have the following in menu.hook:

Mutt  EXEC xterm  -T Mutt -e /usr/bin/mutt

how can have the same program opened with rxvt instead?
  
Mutt  EXEC rxvt  -d Mutt -e /usr/bin/mutt

and other combinations haven't worked so far.

TIA

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Re: Switching pine to mutt - but...

1999-04-13 Thread homega
Shao Zhang dixit:
~ 
~  1. I use vi for composing the mails, but ZZ does not save the
~ message, I will have to use :wq. Is there a way to configure mutt to
~ recognise this??

It works ok for me.

~  2. I have three mail folders. Instead of typing the location of
~ each folder, can I configure a shortcut key to go to each folder?

Type c and then tab, you'll be able to browse through your folders.

~  4. Rather than reading the message page by page, I would like to
~ read the message by scrolling it down. Can I configure mutt to do that?

PgUp PgDown will take you to the previous/next message, you can avoid this
by adding to your .muttrc:  set menu_scroll
You might also want to have less as your pager:  set pager=less

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Howto text/html to man?

1999-04-12 Thread homega
Hi,

I downloaded some man pages in html and text formats which I'd like to use as
man pages.  How can I convert them?  They do have the look and feel of man
pages.

TIA

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Re: vi GUI for X ?

1999-04-11 Thread homega
David Z. Maze dixit:
~ shaleh  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
~   Also, is CR the only way to avoid broken words at the end of a line?
~ SEP 
~ SEP And yes, hitting enter is the only way.
~ 
~ No it's not...in vim, I routinely do
~ 
~ :set wm=4
(...)

Fine, I downloaded vim and kept nvi as well (for now, just while I'm learning).
but I suppossed there should be a configuration file, either general for all
vi programs, or for nvi or vim in particular ... the problem is I haven't found
any not in my home directory, nor in /etc.

How can I create a general one (for nvi/nex and vim/...?)?  or, in case this is 
not possible, could anyone send to me a sample rc file?

TIA

Horacio
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Re: vi GUI for X ?

1999-04-11 Thread homega
David Z. Maze dixit:
~ homega  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
~ homega Fine, I downloaded vim and kept nvi as well (for now, just
~ homega while I'm learning).  but I suppossed there should be a
~ homega configuration file, either general for all vi programs, or for
~ homega nvi or vim in particular ... the problem is I haven't found
~ homega any not in my home directory, nor in /etc.
~ 
~ You can create in your home directory a '.exrc' file that works for
~ all versions of ex, vi, vim, elvis, ..., or you can create a '.vimrc'
~ file that contains vim-specific commands.  Try ':help vimrc' in vim
~ for more information.

~$ vim
:help
Sorry, help file /usr/share/vim/doc/help.txt not found

in fact there's not vim/ (nor vi/, nor nvi/) dir within /usr/share, and I
haven't been able to find that help.txt so far.  Likewise, vim installed no man 
pages at all;  vi.1.gz and ex.1.gz are symlinks to nvi.1.gz and nex.1.gz
respectively.

Could anyoneone help with this, please?

TIA

Horacio
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vi GUI for X ?

1999-04-10 Thread homega
Hi there,

I'm just starting with vi, and am wondering whether there's an X front end
for vi (or nvi, or vim), or any X specific vi editor.

Also, is CR the only way to avoid broken words at the end of a line?

TIA

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Problems upgrading libraries for Fonts

1999-04-07 Thread homega
Hi,

I'm trying to install the packages xfonts-cyrillic_3.3.2.3a-11.deb and
xfonts-cjk_3.3.2.3a-11.deb, for which I need xfs and xbase-clients;

xbase-clients_3.3.2.3a-11.deb depends, among others, on xlib6g (= 3.3.2.3a-2)
(the rest of the dependencies were already installed in the system);

xlib6g_3.3.2.3a-11.deb depends on xfree86-common, libc6 (libc6 is ok, and
xfree86-common... shouldn't it be installed with the basic X installation? it
doesn't show with `dpkg -l' though).  But xlib6g conflicts (and replaces)
xlib6 ( 3.3.2.3a-8) and xlib6g-dev ( 3.3.2.3a-2), and replaces xbase
( 3.3.2.3a-2) ... a bit too much fiddling with the x-window system?

Now, this is the output of my attempt to install xlib6g:

homega:/tmp# dpkg -i xlib6g_3.3.2.3a-11.deb
dpkg: considering removing xlib6 in favour of xlib6g ...
dpkg: no, cannot remove xlib6 (--auto-deconfigure will help):
 tk42 depends on xlib6 (= 3.3-0)
  xlib6 is to be removed.
dpkg: regarding xlib6g_3.3.2.3a-11.deb containing xlib6g:
 xlib6g conflicts with xlib6 ( 3.3.2.3a-8)
  xlib6 (version 3.3.2.2-4) is installed.
dpkg: error processing xlib6g_3.3.2.3a-11.deb (--install):
 conflicting packages - not installing xlib6g
Errors were encountered while processing:
 xlib6g_3.3.2.3a-11.deb

Now, the current system is running hamm, and the installation includes (none
of these, except for xfs, have ever been upgraded):

libc5 5.4.38-1.1;  libc6 2.0.7.19981211;  libc6-dev 2.0.7t-1;
libc6-doc 2.0.7t-1;  tk4.2 4.2p2-7;  tk42 4.2p2-7;  tk8.0 8.0p2-4;
tk8.0-dev 8.0p2-4;  xbase 3.3.2.2-4;  xlib6 3.3.2.2-4;  xlib6g 3.3.2.2-4;
xlib6g-dev 3.3.2.2-4;  xfnt100 3.3.2.2-4;  xfnt75 3.3.2.2-4;
xfntbase 3.3.2.2-4;  xfntbig 3.3.2.2-4;  xfntcyr 3.3.2.2-4;  (these last two
packages I believe will be replaced);  xfntscl 3.3.2.2-4

(Probably I should upgrade more packages from potato, ... how about libc6).

I can't uninstall tk42, I can't remember which packages need it, but I
recall installing it for some reason(s).  Please, could you help me with
this?

TIA

Horacio
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Re: What do I do with tarballs?

1999-04-07 Thread homega
David B.Teague dixit:
 
 On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Stefan Langerman wrote:
 
 I have thought about using alien to create a .deb and then used dpkg to
 install it. IF the tarball puts things in the right places, it seems to me
 that this should work find. It has the added advantage of my being able to
 un-install. 
 
 I'd like some feed back about this, as I suspect there is some danger
 involved, since there does not appear to be much in the way of controls. 

A tarball may only be debianized with alien if it is as Slackware package
(usually .tgz).  But .tgz and .tar.gz may also be source, not binaries, so
nothing to do with alien here.

Regards

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Re: email threat

1999-04-06 Thread homega
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit:

 Today I received the following threat in e-mail from Eric Raymond. The message
 was copied to the Silicon Valley Linux User's Group officers, who you may
 consult regarding its authenticity. The police have been notified.
 
 Because I know that Eric is a firearms enthusiast, for my own protection,
 I feel the best strategy is for me to publicize the threat widely.

Forgive my ignorance here (and my curiousity) but just ... who is Eric
Raymond, and who are you (or what you've done/said) so that he threatens you?

Regards

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Re: Acentos, eñes y demás zarandajas...

1999-04-05 Thread homega
Javier Ramirez dixit:
 ¡Hola!
 
 Tengo instalada la debian 2.0 y en el /etc/profile tengo lo siguiente:
 
 export LC_MESSAGES=es_ES
 export LANG=es_ES
 export LESSCHARSET=latin1
 export LC_CTYPE=es_ES.ISO8859-1
 export MM_CHARSET=ISO-8859-1
 
 Así consigo utilizar acentos(*), eñes y demás zarandajas con el vi, pero no
 así con el joe.
 ¿Qué tengo que hacer para poderlos utilizar con joe(**)?

En la línea 106 del fichero ~/.joerc, esto es lo que tuve que poner:

-asis

o desde la línea de comandos, cada vez que abras joe, pásale esta opción:

$ joe -asis

 (*) Los acentos me funcionan sólo con minúsculas, no con mayúsculas?

Á É Í Ó Ú ... a mí también, excepto con la E mayúscula.

Un saludo,

Horacio.
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automatizar el correo con /etc/ip.up

1999-04-05 Thread homega
Hola,

en /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ creé un fichero simplemente con el comando `runq -v', y
así conseguí que enviara todo el correo en cola cada vez que me conecto,
aunque no lo hace en modo verboso;  también añadí al mismo fichero el
comando `fetchmail -v -a -u id_usuario', pero éste no funciona para bajarme
el correo automáticamente.

¿Alguna idea?  Por cierto, ¿por qué orden corren los scripts dentro de este
directorio?  ¿cuál será ejecutado primero?

Gracias de antemano,

Horacio.
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Re: Mutt 0.95.4-0.1 and slang

1999-04-05 Thread homega
Damir J. Naden dixit:
 Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED]; unless Mutt is confused, you wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit:
   Hi there,
   
   I'm currently using Mutt 0.93i and would like to upgrade to 0.95.4-0.1,
   which I ftp'ed.  The problem is that the dependencies for it are
   slang1 ( 1.3) and slang1 ( 1.2.2-0), whereas I only have 
   slang0.99.38-6,
   
   am I supposed to install a slang version smaller than 1.3 but bigger 
   than
   1.2.2-0?  sorry, the doubles `'  `' confuse me here.
  
  ah, I could only find slang1-ja_1.2.2.j055-1.deb (with a Japanese patch),
  but it says nothing about slang-dev being required (which it was for
  slang0.99
  
  will that be ok?

 I have used slang1 and slang1-dev packages from slink at 1.2.2-2; and that
 worked fine. The dependancies mean higher than 1.2.2-0 and lower than 1.3
 If you are installing the binaries only, than only slang1_1.2.2-2.deb from
 slink should do it.

mmmh, I couldn't find slang1 anywhere in slink nor potato (I tried
ftp://ftp.debian.org) ... and I'm afraid I might also need to install
slang1-dev ... if slang0-dev is already installed in my system, there must be
a reason for it.

Thank you,

Horacio.
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Mutt 0.95.4-0.1

1999-04-04 Thread homega
Hi there,

I'm currently using Mutt 0.93i and would like to upgrade to 0.95.4-0.1,
which I ftp'ed.  The problem is that the dependencies for it are
slang1 ( 1.3) and slang1 ( 1.2.2-0), whereas I only have slang0.99.38-6,

am I supposed to install a slang version smaller than 1.3 but bigger than
1.2.2-0?  sorry, the doubles `'  `' confuse me here.

TIA

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Re: Mutt 0.95.4-0.1 and slang

1999-04-04 Thread homega
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit:
 Hi there,
 
 I'm currently using Mutt 0.93i and would like to upgrade to 0.95.4-0.1,
 which I ftp'ed.  The problem is that the dependencies for it are
 slang1 ( 1.3) and slang1 ( 1.2.2-0), whereas I only have slang0.99.38-6,
 
 am I supposed to install a slang version smaller than 1.3 but bigger than
 1.2.2-0?  sorry, the doubles `'  `' confuse me here.

ah, I could only find slang1-ja_1.2.2.j055-1.deb (with a Japanese patch),
but it says nothing about slang-dev being required (which it was for
slang0.99

will that be ok?

TIA

Horacio
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ip-up scripts [was: Re: /etc/lynx.cfg ...]

1999-04-02 Thread homega
Hamish Moffatt dixit:
 
 I think you should put
 
 alias lynx=lynx -cfg=$HOME/.lynxrc, rather than using ~.

That's what I finally did, thanks a lot.

Another issue ... I'm trying to add some actions to the ip-up script, ie.
just trying to get the queued mail sent and then have the mail in the ISP
fetched automatically right after connection.  Also, I want the system clock
to update from a server and then the CMOS clock to update from the system's.

I'm in the belief that /etc/ppp/ip-up line

# Main Script starts here

run-parts /etc/ppp/ip-up.d

# last line

means that it will read any script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d ... but I put these
two scripts in there (and set permissions to 755):

- /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/hora -
#!/bin/sh
# /etc/init.d/cron stop
/usr/sbin/rdate -s slug.ctv.es
/sbin/hwclock --systohc
# /etc/init.d/cron start
- /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/hora -

- /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/queue -
#!/bin/sh
runq -v
fetchmail -v -a -u a4608456
- /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/queue -

and runq seems to work (though not verbosely), but fetchmail doesn't work at
all.  I don't really know whether the clock script works, since I recently
updated the time from the command line.

May be the fact that permissions to /etc/ppp/ are set drwx-- has got to
do with it?

TIA

Horacio
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Re: I really need help!

1999-04-02 Thread homega
Nuno Donato dixit:
 I really need sme help here. If you can, please help me.
 I want to know if there is a kind of autoexec.bat file in 
 Linux, so that each times it boots, it automatically 
 executes some commands.
 I need this because I have downloaded Blender(3d Software), 
 and i must install symbolic links. But because I don't know 
 how to do this before running Blender I need to execute a 
 LARGE command.
 Do you know how ot install symbolic links?

You don't install symbolic links, you create them ... do `man ln' for more
information (`ln -s' will create a symlink).

As for an autoexec.bat, not sure, I guess it depends on what you want to do,
but mostly /etc/profile, or ~/.bash_profile, ...

Regards

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Re: /etc/lynx.cfg - ~/.lynxrc

1999-04-01 Thread homega
Laurent PICOULEAU dixit:

  how can I have lynx to use each home user's configuration file instead of
  /etc/lynx.cfg?  I mean to default to:
  
  $ lynx -cfg=~/.lynxrc
 
 Why not do it with an alias ? 

Already thought of that, but hoped for a more standard solution.  I wonder
if I remove /etc/lynx.cfg lynx will look for ~/.lynxrc or ~/lynx.cfg ...

Configuration file /etc/lynx.cfg is not available.

Well, it didn't work.  Can I state in the user's .bash_profile to look for
~/.lynxrc instead of the default /etc/lynx.cfg somehow?

Regards,

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Re: /etc/lynx.cfg - ~/.lynxrc

1999-04-01 Thread homega
Hamish Moffatt dixit:
 On Wed, Mar 31, 1999 at 05:14:57PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  how can I have lynx to use each home user's configuration file instead of
  /etc/lynx.cfg?  I mean to default to:
  
  $ lynx -cfg=~/.lynxrc
 
 Any files in /etc/skel get copied to any new user accounts you create,
 but not for existing users.

I see, but even if I create a /etc/skel/.lynxrc file and then a new user,
lynx won't even try to read the new user's ~/.lynxrc, but /etc/lynx.cfg.
I did create a ~/.lynxrc from /etc/lynx.cfg (and even removed the latest),
but lynx does default to /etc ...

P.S.  `lynx -cfg=~/.lynxrc' on the command line works fine, how can I add
that to the .bash_profile?

Regards,

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Re: /etc/lynx.cfg - ~/.lynxrc

1999-04-01 Thread homega
Hamish Moffatt dixit:

 You could alias lynx to /usr/bin/lynx -cfg=$HOME/.lynxrc in .bash_profile.

That sounds like it, thanks.

 It might be better to rename lynx and create a wrapper script which adds
 this option. Perhaps you could add the wrapper script in /usr/local/bin
 and put that before /usr/bin in the users' path?

uh... how do I do that?

 I'm curious: what's the advantage of per-user lynx configuration files?

Different start default URL's, aliases, external applications, ... also
different colour configuration ... in general, as any other program's user
config file.  Does it sound like nonsense?

Thanks,

Horacio.
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/etc/lynx.cfg - ~/.lynxrc

1999-03-31 Thread homega
Hi,

how can I have lynx to use each home user's configuration file instead of
/etc/lynx.cfg?  I mean to default to:

$ lynx -cfg=~/.lynxrc

TIA

Horacio
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permisos cambiados ???

1999-03-29 Thread homega
Parece que de algún modo los permisos para /usr/bin/pager han sido cambiados
... desde luego yo no los he cambiado, ¿cómo es esto posible?

Esto es lo que sucede:

homega:/tmp$ man man
sh: /usr/bin/pager: Permission denied
sh: exec: /usr/bin/pager: cannot execute: Permission denied
man: la orden terminó y retornó 32256: /bin/gzip -dc
'/var/catman/cat1/man.1.gz' | { export MAN_PN LESS; MAN_PN='man(1)';
LESS=$LESS\$-Pm\:\$ix8mPm Página de Manual $MAN_PN ?ltlínea %lt?L/%L.:byte
%bB?s/%s..?e (FIN):?pB %pB\\%..; exec /usr/bin/pager -s; }
homega:/tmp$

... y en efecto los permisos están de lo más raros:

2139127680 ?r-S--S--T 65280 65280652804278255360 þun 21  1969 pager

¿Qué ocurre?  ¿y porqué ese fichero es tan grande?  Me da que pensar ... ¿no
me lo habrán ...?

Gracias de antemano,

Horacio.
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Re: permisos cambiados ???

1999-03-29 Thread homega
Hue-Bond dixit:
 El lunes 29 de marzo de 1999 a la(s) 01:14:04 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 contaba:
 
 2139127680 ?r-S--S--T 65280 65280652804278255360 þun 21  1969 pager
 
  U uf uff
 
  Tío, se impone un  umount + fsck. Si la partición  es /, te veo
  arrancando con disquete y fsck al canto.

Bueno, ya le hice un e2fsck, y la partición era /usr.

  No  creo.  Con esos  permisos  ni  siquiera es  ejecutable.  Si
  quieres, antes de hacer el fsck, prueba un 'file pager' para ver si
  sigue siendo el mismo ejecutable, o prueba algún chmod (para ver si
  los permisos se cambian bien). Por  si acaso no lo ejecutes y menos
  como root. En mi Hamm no es un archivo, sino un symlink.

El e2fsck me lo borró, así que hice un symlink a /etc/alternative/pager y
listo (de momento, porque no sé qué será lo siguiente que ocurrirá).  Espero
que no tenga razón quien dijo que mi disco duro se podía estar muriendo.

Gracias,

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Please Help: Changed Permissions!?!?

1999-03-29 Thread homega
Somehow /usr/bin/pager permissions have changed (or *have been changed*),
and it wasn't me who changed them ... how is this possible?

This is how I realized:

homega:/tmp$ man man
sh: /usr/bin/pager: Permission denied
sh: exec: /usr/bin/pager: cannot execute: Permission denied
man: la orden terminó y retornó 32256: /bin/gzip -dc
'/var/catman/cat1/man.1.gz' | { export MAN_PN LESS; MAN_PN='man(1)';
LESS=$LESS\$-Pm\:\$ix8mPm Página de Manual $MAN_PN ?ltlínea %lt?L/%L.:byte
%bB?s/%s..?e (FIN):?pB %pB\\%..; exec /usr/bin/pager -s; }
homega:/tmp$

... meaning?  well, I had a look at /usr/bin/pager and:

2139127680 ?r-S--S--T 65280 65280652804278255360 jun 21  1969 pager


What's going on here?  why are permissions so strange?  and, why is the file
so big?  ok, call me a paranoid, but ...  have I been hacked?  on a stand
alone / dial-on-demand machine?

Deeply concerned,

Horacio.

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Re: use the Windowkeys

1999-03-29 Thread homega
Pierfrancesco Caci dixit:
 
 If you intend to use it under X, try xkeycaps and then xmodmap.
 
 These are the definitions that I use on my setup:
 
 keycode 0x73 =guillemotleft   guillemotright
 keycode 0x74 =currencycent
 keycode 0x75 =copyright   registered
 
 I get the following charachters (I hope you can see them)
 
 Left Windows: « »
 Right Wind. : ¤ ¢
 Menu: © ®
 
 If you find a way to do the same at the console, please tell me :-)

On a console, run the `showkey' command, and press whichever key you intend
to use, eg. I applied the cent sign to work with altgr + the window key on
the right (the one with the pointer):
$ showkey
(press key)
kb mode was XLATE

press any key (program terminates after 10s of last keypress)...
keycode  28 release
keycode 100 press
keycode 100 release
keycode 127 press
keycode 127 release

Now go to /etc/kbd/default.map.gz, and under the line

keycode 127 =

type:

keycode 127 =
altgr   keycode 127 = cent

Now, reboot, and whenever you press altgr+thatkey, you'll get the ¢ sign.

BTW, anyone knows anyway of implementing the euro currency sign?

Horacio.

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Help with Smail, please

1999-03-26 Thread homega

Some time ago I started noticing a slowdown with outgoing mail.  I usually
run `runq -v' to send outgoing mail.  The logs on screen are usually long,
and it sometimes hangs, as if it tried to reach the destination by itself.

This is how long they usually look like:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: vger.rutgers.edu matched by inet_hosts
router:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: pinnacle.co.uk matched by inet_hosts router:
routed [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
vger.rutgers.edu
  transport hint mx 0 vger.rutgers.edu
address hint vger.rutgers.edu 128.6.190.2
routed [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
pinnacle.co.uk
  transport hint mx 50 punt-1.mail.demon.net
address hint punt-1.mail.demon.net 194.217.242.35
address hint punt-1.mail.demon.net 194.217.242.34
  transport hint mx 50 punt-2.mail.demon.net
address hint punt-2.mail.demon.net 194.217.242.6
address hint punt-2.mail.demon.net 194.217.242.14
transport smtp uses driver tcpsmtp
lock retry/smtp/punt-1.mail.demon.net
lock succeeded (will defer failure) retry/smtp/punt-1.mail.demon.net
transport smtp: connect to host punt-1.mail.demon.net
[194.217.242.35]/smtp...connected

and this is the point at which it hangs (delays), until I press ^C if it
takes far too long, or it continues:

unlock (success) retry/smtp/punt-1.mail.demon.net
write_log:Delivered VIA:punt-1.mail.demon.net TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ORIG-TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ROUTER:inet_hosts TRANSPORT:smtp
transport smtp uses driver tcpsmtp
lock retry/smtp/vger.rutgers.edu
lock succeeded (will defer failure) retry/smtp/vger.rutgers.edu
transport smtp: connect to host vger.rutgers.edu
[128.6.190.2]/smtp...connected
unlock (success) retry/smtp/vger.rutgers.edu
write_log:Delivered VIA:vger.rutgers.edu TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ORIG-TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ROUTER:inet_hosts TRANSPORT:smtp
write_log:Completed.

On /var/spool/smail/input I get a log of failed mail all with the same err:

Xdefer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] reason: (ERR164) router inet_hosts:
BIND server failure: : Connection refused

except for a few like:

Xdefer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] reason: (ERR148) transport smtp:
connect: Network is unreachable

I'm not sure about this, but all this started at about the time I installed
procmail.  Also, when it hangs for long I press ^C, and then try to run
`runq -v' again, but it tells me something about the file already locked...
and the truth is that mail is usually delivered.

Now I pressed ^C due to one hang up (may be it's not hanging, just long
delaying), and after a while this appeared on my screen:

homega:~$ transport smtp: connect: Connection timed out
transport smtp: connect to host punt-2.mail.demon.net
[194.217.242.14]/smtp...

... and hanged again, so I pressed ^C again and switched the modem off, and
after a short while this came up on my screen:

homega:~$ transport smtp: connect: Network is unreachable
unlock (error) retry/smtp/punt-2.mail.demon.net
lock retry/smtp/punt-1.mail.demon.net
lock succeeded (will defer failure) retry/smtp/punt-1.mail.demon.net
transport smtp: connect to host punt-1.mail.demon.net
[194.217.242.34]/smtp...transport smtp: connect: Network is unreachable
transport smtp: connect to host punt-1.mail.demon.net
[194.217.242.35]/smtp...transport smtp: connect: Network is unreachable
unlock (error) retry/smtp/punt-1.mail.demon.net
transport smtp uses driver tcpsmtp
lock retry/smtp/vger.rutgers.edu
lock succeeded (will defer failure) retry/smtp/vger.rutgers.edu
transport smtp: connect to host vger.rutgers.edu
[128.6.190.2]/smtp...transport
smtp: connect: Network is unreachable
unlock (error) retry/smtp/vger.rutgers.edu
write_log:Deferred TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ROUTER:inet_hosts
TRANSPORT:smtp ERROR:(ERR148) transport smtp: connect: Network is
unreachable
write_log:Deferred TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ROUTER:inet_hosts
TRANSPORT:smtp ERROR:(ERR148) transport smtp: connect: Network is
unreachable

Can anyone tell me what's going on here?  what's locking the mail?

Thank You in Advanced,

Horacio.


Re: VMware again

1999-03-25 Thread homega
Sorry to ask,

what's VMWare?  is it like an emu?  any pointers to info?

TIA,

Horacio.

Peter Makholm dixit:
 Bob Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I see from the vmware web page that 64 MB RAM is required.  Does anyone
  know if this is a hard requirement?  I'd like to install the demo on a
  system with 40 MB.
 
 It's a matter of speed.
 
 I've installed Win95 over VMware on my AMD K6 200Mhz with 32 MB
 RAM. It works but do a lot of swapping if i set VMware to use more
 than 16 MB for the virtual machine.
 
 Nice stuff, but I couldn't install FreeBSD on it. I wonder what went
 wrong. 

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Re: ORACLE 8.0.5i + DEBIAN 2.1

1999-03-24 Thread homega
David Cabrero souto dixit:
 
   A ver si esto sirve.
 
 David
 -
 
 /'''\
 \   /  ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN
   X AGAINST HUGE POSTS
 /   \   ^^

David ten cuidado, 36K para un sólo mensaje en una lista puede ser tan molesto
como un mensaje en html ... o más ... mejor se lo envías en privado y/o das
la URL o ftp desde donde se lo pueda bajar.

Un cordial saludo,

Horacio.

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Re: Home Page Design

1999-03-24 Thread homega
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit:
 Okay, everyone send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and complain about unsolicited
 ads on our mailing list.
 
 How rude...

Sure, so they may add everyone's address to their list and send them also on
a personal basis.

Regards,

Horacio.

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Re: slackware 4.0

1999-03-24 Thread homega
Steve Lamb dixit:

 home I run my Laptop on Debian 2.1, my main machine on some portions of
 Potato.  My main machine runs kernel 2.2.1, my laptop 2.0.34.  Functionally,
 they are identical to one another.  I telnet in, I run X aps, no big deal. 
 They work.  I really can't tell the difference between the 2.2.1 machine and
 the 2.0.34 machine based on that alone.

It wasn't that long ago (a few months?) that Slackware released 3.6 (2.0.35) 
... isn't it two short for a new release?

If it's about getting a distro with the latest kernel release, then it may be
a matter of just downloading it from kernel.org and compiling it ... what am I
missing anything here?

Else, taking time for a distribution to solidly be built around a new kernel
version is the other choice.

*(actually, I'm asking here, not stating anything at all)*

 Sure, for the latest and greatest jockies, Slackware will beat Debian. 
 For people who live in the real world and use their machines as more than
 power toys and status symbols, I don't think so.

Sorry to disagree here, but that sounds more like an argument for windoze vs
debian (or any other linux), rather than debian vs slackware.

Horacio.

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Re: Debian CD Resellers?

1999-03-24 Thread homega
Hamish Moffatt dixit:
 
 That IS my point -- US vendors cannot ship non-US out of the US.
 
 Most of these programs are in non-US not because they can't be used in the
 US (only pgp-i is in that category AFAIK), but because once they're in
 the US, they can't leave.

Damm it!!! aren't LSL based in the US?  I recently ordered 2.1 from them.

OTOH, if only pgp-i falls into that category ... and there has been no new
releases ever since 5.0i...

Horacio.

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Re: Debian CD Resellers?

1999-03-23 Thread homega
J.H.M. Dassen dixit:
 On Mon, Mar 22, 1999 at 10:56:16 -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote:
  I can't comment on mutt-i, since it doesn't show up in any of my Packages
  files.
 
 mutt-i no longer exists.

That explains why I couldn't find it in the potato directory at
ftp://non-us.debian.org ... what's the latest version of mutt available as a
.deb package?

Horacio.

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RSA fetch rsa


Re: Aliases

1999-03-22 Thread homega
Mans Joling dixit:
 Hi
 I have add several aliases to my .bashrc file ,but the file would not
 be  consulted while starting up.
 What I am doing wrong
 Regards
 Mans Joling

I went through that recently;  if you put them in .bashrc, then that's the
configuration for bash as an interactive shell, ie. you must type:

$ bash

every time you want to start it.  Else, do the same in .bash_profile which
is the configurations for bash as a login shell.

Regards,

Horacio.

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Re: Debian CD Resellers?

1999-03-22 Thread homega
  Of course, no US-based vendor is going to ship non-US to Rainer who's
  domain is .de; that's the whole point of non-US.

you sure?  I thought they wouldn't ship non-US to someone whose domain is a
US based one.  For instance, pgp, from outside the US we need to get it as
pgp-i from non-US, whereas from within the US you'll get plain pgp ... which
does not belong to non-US.

Of course, a different issue is whether a US based vendor may ship ANY crypto
related program outside the US borders.

Horacio.


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Re: Debian CD Resellers?

1999-03-22 Thread homega
Bob Nielsen dixit:
 On Mon, 22 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Of course, no US-based vendor is going to ship non-US to Rainer who's
domain is .de; that's the whole point of non-US.
  
  you sure?  I thought they wouldn't ship non-US to someone whose domain is a
  US based one.  For instance, pgp, from outside the US we need to get it as
  pgp-i from non-US, whereas from within the US you'll get plain pgp ... 
  which
  does not belong to non-US.
  
  Of course, a different issue is whether a US based vendor may ship ANY 
  crypto
  related program outside the US borders.
 
 The pgp vs. pgp-i issue is one of copyright.  Both are non-us.

fine, but how about mutt vs. mutt-i?

Horacio.

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Re: Documentation suggestion

1999-03-22 Thread homega
Timothy Hospedales dixit:
 Could someone tell me how to read info pages / find out what info 
 pages
 are available? I know this is probably a dumb question, but I don't seem to 
 have
 an info topic command - so does info use a different kind of syntax to man
 or is it a special package or what?

`info info'

for info on info, or just

`info'

and you'll be able to page through the various info on commands.  Up and
Down arrows ( or PgUp/PgDown), and enter when the cursor is on top of one.

Horacio.

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Re: login shell

1999-03-18 Thread homega
David Charro Ripa dijo:

  ¿Se puede hacer que el login te meta directamente en bash?
 
 En el fichero /etc/passwd aprecen los usuarios + una serie de campos
 asociados que indican que ese usuario tiene un directorio
 /home/nombreusuario y también el nombre del shell que usa. Cambialo ahí.

/bin/bash... creo que la respuesta es la que da Jaime E. Villate:

 No. Siempre has estado en bash. Como tu mismo te respondes mas adelante,
 son dos formas diferentes de iniciar el mismo shell

Queda claro que al iniciar, se hace con bash como shell de login, y éste
lee, por este orden /etc/profile o ~/.bash_profile, y luego si existe,
~/.bash_login;  mientras que si en la línea de comandos das la orden:

$ bash

entonces inicias bash como shell interactiva (sin importar en qué shell te
encuentres en ese momento), y ésta lee ~/.bashrc, que es sólo para shell
interactivas.

 
  Y de otro modo, ¿cómo puedo hacer que la shell del login lea ~/.bashrc?
  
 
 Creo que el .bashrc es un fichero de recursos, y ahí tienes definidas o
 puedes editar las propiedades que tiene el bash. [...]

Creo que sólo le pasa opciones de inicialización a la shell interactiva.

Jaime E. Villate dijo:

 pues dale la orden de leer el ~/.bashrc dentro de ~/.bash_profile
 Pero es conveniente mantener las dos cosas separadas. Si lo que quieres
 es que te aparezca el homega:~$ tambien cuando estas en un login
 shell, copia la definicion del prompt que tienes en .bashrc para
 .bash_profile

Eso es lo que hice ayer, pero no me funcionó.  El fallo estaba en que
presupuse que al salir del bash con `exit' y volver a hacer un login, me lo
reconocería.  Ahora ha funcionado reiniciando el sistema.  Gracias.

¿Alguien podría enviarme un ejemplo de ~/bash_login, ~/bash_logout, y
~/.inputrc?

Gracias,

Horacio.
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Re: PC-Actual

1999-03-18 Thread homega
J.E. Marchesi dixit:

   Recomiendo efusivamente la lectura por parte de todos de una carta 
 de un lector llamado Raul Puerto en la revista PC-Actual del mes de Marzo 
 de 1999. En la seccion de opinion de los lectores, titulado 'Menos LiNUX'.

Esteee... si no es muy amplio, ¿lo podrías enviar ... en privado ...?  Es
que tanta revista, al final...

Gracias,

Horacio.

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login shell

1999-03-17 Thread homega
Hola,

estoy un poco liado del modo en que funcionan las shell.  Si el login lo
hago como usuario horacio, el prompt que obtengo es siempre:

$

sin que indique nada más.  Yo pensé que sería el bash ya que bash siempre va
con el signo $, pero:

$ bash
homega:~$

y aquí resulta que las opciones que pueda tener en .bashrc me funcionan.  O
sea, que antes estaba en otra shell... ¿sh?  (aunque la primera login shell
que aparece en /etc/shells es `ash'... pero no puedo cambiar a ash
invocándolo como `ash' desde la línea de comandos ... ¿porque no es una shell
interactiva?).

¿Se puede hacer que el login te meta directamente en bash?

Y de otro modo, ¿cómo puedo hacer que la shell del login lea ~/.bashrc?

El man bash dice que cuando bash es invocado como login shell, primero lee
/etc/profile, luego ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bash_login y ~/.profile, y al salir
lee ~/.bash_logout (si existe).
Bueno, aquí no dice que lee ~/.bashrc, sólo si es invocada como shell no de
login... ¿quiere eso decir que en realidad el login es bash y no otra?
Ni ~/bash_login, ni ~/.profile, ni ~/bash_logout existen...

Lo único que veo es que hay una diferencia entre el bash si es de login o si
es interactivo (si se invoca desde la consola), ya que el primero no lee
~/.bashrc.

Por lo demás, un lío, a ver si alguien me puede aclarar algo.

Gracias de antemano,

Horacio.

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Re: Any way to read docs in base64?

1999-03-17 Thread homega
Anthony Campbell dixit:
 
 Thanks to all for replies. I do have mutt and I just installed all the MIME
 stuff but it still doesn't read the files in mutt (something to do with
 mailcap I think). I also installed mpack and tried that on the exported
 file but that didn't do anything either. Perhaps this is the wrong kind of
 file?

Have a look at:

http://www.rhein.de/~roland/mutt

you'll find useful stuff and info.

Regards,

Horacio.
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Re: Using Procmail

1999-03-16 Thread homega
XRDLAB dixit:
 
 As mentioned earlier, the mail is received on the spool
 correctly. But procmail does not seem to be doing its job.
 
 Well, here is something which might help in troubleshooting. 
 
 1. As soon as I dial-up and the ppp link is established, the root 
does not do a fetchmail. I do it as a normal user. Does it in any
way affect the behaviour of fetchmail?  

is .procmailrc in your user's home dir?
   ^^

 * $HOME/.procmailrc 
 
 LOGFILE=$HOME/.maillog   
 VERBOSE=no   
 PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin
 MAILDIR=$HOME/mail   
 
 :0
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 debian-user

I don't know which header you expect to find under To.  I might be wrong,
but you might mean To:;  also, the dot . right after the @ sign... means
that procmail will look for a dot after the @ sign (which will not find, of
course);  and just in case there's something else between debian-user-diges
and the @ sign, I would suggest to ommit @, thus:

* ^To:.*debian-user-digest*
debian-user

But sometimes the address won't be in the To: header, but in From:, or
Cc:... so this is what I do:

* ^(To|From|Cc):.*debian-user-digest*
debian-user


Horacio.


Re: interesting

1999-03-16 Thread homega
George Bonser dixit:
 
 http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,33762,00.html
 
 Looks like Caldera is building a nice linux install wizard ... called
 lizard.  They say they might open-source it.

They might?  I thought everything developed under Linux has to be GPL'ed,
and thus open source!


Re: Debian GNU Iinux 2.0

1999-03-16 Thread homega
Karl Steup dixit:
 Hallo!
 Ich brauche dringend Ihre Hilfe,nach dem booten login,hänge ich,welche
 Kommandos muss ich eingeben um mit dem Programm arbeiten zu konnen?
 
   Vielen Dank für Ihre Untstützung
  Karl Steup

Hallo,
I need your help urgently, after the login boot, I hang (I'm lost?),
which commands must I enter so to be able to work with the programme?

Ha! not bad after all... but replying would require a better understanding
of German.  You really get to learn on this list.

Regards,

Horacio.


Re: Using Procmail

1999-03-16 Thread homega
Laurent PICOULEAU dixit:
  
  * ^To:.*debian-user-digest*
 
 this line matches
 ^To:.*debian-user-diges

it doesn't match the one above this line.

 ^To:.*debian-user-digest
 ^To:.*debian-user-digestt
 ^To:.*debian-user-digesttt
 ...
 Not really what you mean, isn't it ? 

Yes, since it also matches ^To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
  But sometimes the address won't be in the To: header, but in From:, or
  Cc:... so this is what I do:
 
 Hence the interest of the TO macro

ok, I didn't know TO was a macro, I thought caps or not made no difference
with procmail.
  
  * ^(To|From|Cc):.*debian-user-digest*
  debian-user

Regards,

Horacio.

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Description: PGP signature


HELP! [homega@vlc.servicom.es: unexpected inconsistency!]

1999-03-15 Thread homega
I posted this a few days ago, and I got no responses.  Now, after two days
it has happened yet again ... this time while editing various files on
three different consoles:  all of a sudden I got a message (don't remember
which one), and couldn't do anything else, not even ^C.  I had to reset the
machine (^AltDel wouldn't work either) and the fsck gave me an error on one
of the disk partitions;  then gave me the choice to either enter my root
password to fix the problem, or to press ^D.  I did the former and got this
prompt:
[none]~#
ran e2fsck on the partition, exit, and reboot... yet another wrong partition
... but this time I could log as normal root.  I ran e2fsck again and that's
it ... just that this is starting to sound worrying, so please, could you
give me an idea of what could be going on here?

TIA

Horacio

- Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

 X-Envelope-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 00:58:34 +0100
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Debian List debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: unexpected inconsistency!
 Mail-Followup-To: Debian List debian-user@lists.debian.org
 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93i

 I was using netscape (communicator4.5) and all of a sudden... the x-window
 hanged!  Not even Ctrl-Alt-Backspace would work, so I had to resort to the
 reset button.
 
 Now, on reboot, the problem came when checking hdc6 (/home):
 
 /dev/hdc6: Unattached inode 70865
 /dev/hdc6: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY
   (i.e. without -a or -p options)
 ... then kept checking until...
 
 fsck failed - Please repair manually
 CONTROL-D will exit from this shell and continue system startup
 
 Give root password for maintenance
 (or type Control-D for normal startup):
 
 ... so here I choose to press ^D ...
 
 EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended
 
 login:
 
 I tried to run e2fsck but it told me to run fsck without the -a or -p
 options (ok, now I realize I was trying to run `e2fsck -p'), so I ran fsck:
 
 fsck /dev/hdc6
 
 Parallelizing fsck version 1.10 (24-Apr-97)
 e2fsck 1.10, 24-Apr-97 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
 /dev/hdc6 is mounted.  Do you really want to continue (y/n)? yes
 
 /dev/hdc6 contains a file system with errors, check forced.
 Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
 Pass 2: Checking directory structure
 Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
 Pass 4: Checking reference counts
 Unattached inode 70865
 Connect to /lost+foundy? yes
 
 Inode 70865 ref count is 2, should be 1.  Fixy? yes
 
 Pass 5: Checking group summary information
 Fix summary informationy? yes
 
 Block bitmap differences: -152626 -152627 -152628 -152629 -152630 -152631
 -152632.  FIXED
 Free blocks count wrong for group 18 (172, counted=179).  FIXED
 Free blocks count wrong (234959, counted=234966).  FIXED
 
 /dev/hdc6: * FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *
 /dev/hdc6: 1518/76912 files (9.9% non-contiguous), 72127/307093 blocks
 
 
 I include the file /home/lost+found/#70865 which looks like html stuff, which
 I think should be from the site I was browsing (actually, just trying a ftp
 link).
 
 Deeply Concerned,
 
 Horacio.
 TITLEDirectory of /pub/linux/TITLE
  H2Current directory is /pub/linux/H2
  PREA HREF=/pub/Up to higher level directory/ABR A 
 HREF=/pub/linux/LDPIMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 
 SRC=internal-gopher-menu LDP/A  Mon Feb 15 16:45:00 
 1999 Symbolic link
  A HREF=/pub/linux/LINUX-LAB/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 
 SRC=internal-gopher-menu LINUX-LAB//A   Wed Nov 25 22:00:00 
 1998 Directory
  A HREF=/pub/linux/Linux-parport/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 
 SRC=internal-gopher-menu Linux-par.../A Fri Sep  4 00:00:00 
 1998 Directory
  A HREF=/pub/linux/Netscape/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 
 SRC=internal-gopher-menu Netscape//AFri Feb  5 18:04:00 
 1999 Directory
  A HREF=/pub/linux/StarOffice/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 
 SRC=internal-gopher-menu StarOffice//A  Wed Mar 10 18:23:00 
 1999 Directory
  A HREF=/pub/linux/WordPerfect-8/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 
 SRC=internal-gopher-menu WordPerfe.../A Tue Jan 12 17:53:00 
 1999 Directory
  A HREF=/pub/linux/debian/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 
 SRC=internal-gopher-menu debian//A  Wed Dec  2 13:20:00 
 1998 Directory
  A HREF=/pub/linux/gzip-coredump/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 
 SRC=internal-gopher-menu gzip-core.../A Thu Feb 11 17:44:00 
 1999 Directory
  A HREF=/pub/linux/kernel-hackers-guide-0.6/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 
 SRC=internal-gopher-menu kernel-ha.../A Tue Mar 24 00:00:00 
 1998 Directory
  A HREF=/pub/linux/kernel/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 
 SRC=internal-gopher-menu kernel//A  Mon Feb  1 19:23:00 
 1999 Directory
  A HREF=/pub/linux/linux-doc-project/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 
 SRC=internal-gopher-menu linux-doc.../A Tue Mar 24 00:00:00 
 1998 Directory
  A HREF=/pub/linux/linux.is.obsolete/IMG ALIGN=absbottom 

Re: cambio de nombre de maquina

1999-03-13 Thread homega
Tinguaro Barreno Delgado dixit:
 
   Modifica el fichero /etc/hostname. Este fichero tan sólo contiene una
 palabra: el nombre de la máquina.

¿Qué más habría que cambiar al cambiar el nombre de la máquina?

Es decir, yo lo he hecho, y la conexión funcionaba bien, smail *creo* que
también, pero fetchmail no, no pude bajar el correo.

Un saludo,

Horacio.


unexpected inconsistency!

1999-03-13 Thread homega
I was using netscape (communicator4.5) and all of a sudden... the x-window
hanged!  Not even Ctrl-Alt-Backspace would work, so I had to resort to the
reset button.

Now, on reboot, the problem came when checking hdc6 (/home):

/dev/hdc6: Unattached inode 70865
/dev/hdc6: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY
(i.e. without -a or -p options)
... then kept checking until...

fsck failed - Please repair manually
CONTROL-D will exit from this shell and continue system startup

Give root password for maintenance
(or type Control-D for normal startup):

... so here I choose to press ^D ...

EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended

login:

I tried to run e2fsck but it told me to run fsck without the -a or -p
options (ok, now I realize I was trying to run `e2fsck -p'), so I ran fsck:

fsck /dev/hdc6

Parallelizing fsck version 1.10 (24-Apr-97)
e2fsck 1.10, 24-Apr-97 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
/dev/hdc6 is mounted.  Do you really want to continue (y/n)? yes

/dev/hdc6 contains a file system with errors, check forced.
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
Pass 2: Checking directory structure
Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
Pass 4: Checking reference counts
Unattached inode 70865
Connect to /lost+foundy? yes

Inode 70865 ref count is 2, should be 1.  Fixy? yes

Pass 5: Checking group summary information
Fix summary informationy? yes

Block bitmap differences: -152626 -152627 -152628 -152629 -152630 -152631
-152632.  FIXED
Free blocks count wrong for group 18 (172, counted=179).  FIXED
Free blocks count wrong (234959, counted=234966).  FIXED

/dev/hdc6: * FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *
/dev/hdc6: 1518/76912 files (9.9% non-contiguous), 72127/307093 blocks


I include the file /home/lost+found/#70865 which looks like html stuff, which
I think should be from the site I was browsing (actually, just trying a ftp
link).

Deeply Concerned,

Horacio.TITLEDirectory of /pub/linux/TITLE
 H2Current directory is /pub/linux/H2
 PREA HREF=/pub/Up to higher level directory/ABR A 
HREF=/pub/linux/LDPIMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 SRC=internal-gopher-menu 
LDP/A  Mon Feb 15 16:45:00 1999 Symbolic link
 A HREF=/pub/linux/LINUX-LAB/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 
SRC=internal-gopher-menu LINUX-LAB//A   Wed Nov 25 22:00:00 
1998 Directory
 A HREF=/pub/linux/Linux-parport/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 
SRC=internal-gopher-menu Linux-par.../A Fri Sep  4 00:00:00 
1998 Directory
 A HREF=/pub/linux/Netscape/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 
SRC=internal-gopher-menu Netscape//AFri Feb  5 18:04:00 
1999 Directory
 A HREF=/pub/linux/StarOffice/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 
SRC=internal-gopher-menu StarOffice//A  Wed Mar 10 18:23:00 
1999 Directory
 A HREF=/pub/linux/WordPerfect-8/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 
SRC=internal-gopher-menu WordPerfe.../A Tue Jan 12 17:53:00 
1999 Directory
 A HREF=/pub/linux/debian/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 
SRC=internal-gopher-menu debian//A  Wed Dec  2 13:20:00 
1998 Directory
 A HREF=/pub/linux/gzip-coredump/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 
SRC=internal-gopher-menu gzip-core.../A Thu Feb 11 17:44:00 
1999 Directory
 A HREF=/pub/linux/kernel-hackers-guide-0.6/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 
SRC=internal-gopher-menu kernel-ha.../A Tue Mar 24 00:00:00 
1998 Directory
 A HREF=/pub/linux/kernel/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 
SRC=internal-gopher-menu kernel//A  Mon Feb  1 19:23:00 
1999 Directory
 A HREF=/pub/linux/linux-doc-project/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 
SRC=internal-gopher-menu linux-doc.../A Tue Mar 24 00:00:00 
1998 Directory
 A HREF=/pub/linux/linux.is.obsolete/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 
SRC=internal-gopher-menu linux.is/A Tue Mar 24 00:00:00 
1998 Directory
 A HREF=/pub/linux/loadlin/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 
SRC=internal-gopher-menu loadlin//A Tue Mar 24 00:00:00 
1998 Directory
 A HREF=/pub/linux/sendmail/IMG ALIGN=absbottom BORDER=0 
SRC=internal-gopher-menu sendmail//ATue Mar 24 00:00:00 
1998 Directory

/PRE

Re: lista de correo sobre Mutt :?

1999-03-12 Thread homega
Agustin MuNoz dixit:
 ¡Ché All!
 
 Pues lo del subject, que busco lista de correo especializada en mutt
 si puede ser en lentejo mejor y si no pues en Inglés me sirve :-)

... en inglés sí, en castellano no creo:

Welcome to the mutt-users mailing list!

Please save this message for future reference.  Thank you.

If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list,
you can send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following
command in the body of your email message:

unsubscribe mutt-users

or from another account, besides [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

unsubscribe mutt-users [EMAIL PROTECTED]


... aunque la dirección para la subscripción venga de [EMAIL PROTECTED],
en .procmail ya he tenido que poner varias direcciones (los mensajes pueden
venir de cualquiera de ellas, no sé qué pasa.  Sin gbnet.net no te contesta,
prueba mutt.org, o cualquier otra:

mutt-users@(mutt.org|gbnet.net|sobolev.rhein.de|cs.hmc.edu)


Un saludo,


Horacio.


Re: Problems with .tar file

1999-03-12 Thread homega
Jose Luis Guerra dixit:
 Hello, I write from Spain and I'm novice in Linux World.
 
 I have a problem processing  .tar file. When I write command tar
 xvf file.tar to extract the file qt-1_42_tar.tar, then computer
 return then next error message:
 
 tar: Hmm, this doesn`t look like a tar file
 tar: Skipping to next file header
 tar: Skipping to next file header
 tar: Only read 1285 bytes from archive qt-1_42_tar.tar
 tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now

I think it should be qt-1_42.tar (or qt-1.42.tar), not qt-1_42_tar.tar.  Try
renaming it ^^  ^  ^  

If this doesn't work, may be it's a .tar.gz, rename it to qt-1.42.tar.gz, and
try:

`tar zxvvf qt-1.42.tar.gz'

 Please help me and sorry by my bad English. Regards

Si tienes problemas con el inglés, puedes subscribirte a la lista de debian
en castellano.  Envía un mensaje a:

debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org

y en el cuerpo del mensaje (no en Asunto:)

subscribe

Hasta la vista,

Horacio.


Re: true type fonts

1999-03-12 Thread homega
Noah L. Meyerhans dixit:
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 On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Okay, so I've installed xfstt - the true type font server.  The package says
  it doesn't contain any fonts, and I can't find a package of them via 
  dselect.
  Can anyone point me to the true type fonts package(s)?
 
 First of all, make sure you've got the xfstt from slink, not hamm.  The
 hamm version is basically broken.  Second, there are no TrueType fonts
 distributed with Debian.  You'll need to search for them on the web, or
 copy them over from a Windows machine (I dont' remember where you can find
 the fonts in Windows, or what their name extension is...).

The name extension is probably .ttf (damn it!  I knew I should have kept a
tiny windoze partition...).

I once saw a page plenty of TrueType fonts for (free?) download, don't
remember the pointer, but may be worth to do a search.

Horacio.


Re: help me to undertand GMT time!!!!

1999-03-11 Thread homega
Marcelo E. Magallon dixit:
 John Hasler is correct.  The point is there is NO 12 am or 12 pm.  As he
 explained, am means 'ante meridiem'.  This `meridiem' [ ... ]

¿meridiem?  are you sure it's not meridian?  or is this the Latin form?

I knew I should have never burnt my Latin dictionary... meri diem?

Horacio.


Re: Debian

1999-03-11 Thread homega
I think he's looking for some badges or pins with the logo.
Sweden, hey?  would you give them away if I sent you pins with my phone
number? =;-)

Person, Roderick dixit:
 Are you sure your mailing the right list or am I just missing the question.
 
 Are you looking for an app to help design badges and pins or are you looking
 for a Debian logo or something all together different?
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   marfe98 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent:   Thursday, March 11, 1999 11:29 AM
  To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
  Subject:Debian
  
  Good Day.
  
  My name is Martin Feldt an I am a study at media and communicatios at
  the mid-university of Sweden.
  The students in Sweden has a sort of a national costume, a plain
  workers
  overall. The idea is to embellish it with textile badges and pins.
  The more the better!
  
  So my questions to you is if you maybe could give me some.
  That would be of interest both for you and me, because I would be
  eternaly
  greateful and for you because I help you to show your trademark.
  
  If that is not possible I thank you for taking the time to read
  this mail.
  
   Best regards Martin Feldt
  
   Gronborgsgatan 13:49
   852 37 Sundsvall
   Sweden
  
  
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Re: modems

1999-03-10 Thread homega
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit:
 
 
   Yo no se mucho de modems, pero tengo entendido de que cualquiera
 exerterno no da problemas porque como van por el puerto serie (rs-232c)y
 eso es muy estandar funcionan todos bien.

Yo no he pillado ninguno, pero entre los externos he leído una y mil veces
que están los winmodem, y que éstos NO FUNCIONAN con Linux.  Lo que no
creo es que en la cajita ponga winmodem, así que no sé cómo se puede
distinguir.

Mi módem es un Diamond SupraExpress 56e Pro, no te puedo decir que sea mejor
ni peor que otros pero sí que a mí me funciona muy bien.  Otra cosa sería
comprar uno que fuera ampiable a más de 56Ks... si tenés la plata.

Un saludo,

Horacio.


Re: Maximal Mount Count

1999-03-10 Thread homega
Paul Puri dixit:
  Original Message 
 
 On 3/9/99, 6:32:06 PM, Shao Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: 
 Maximal Mount Count:
 
  Paul Puri wrote:
 
   What is the command that I use to mv /usr to /dev/hda2?
  
   I tried 'mv /usr /hda2/usr', but that gave me the error, 'mv:  cannot
   move '/usr' across filesystems:  Not a regular file.
  
   Thank you...
  
 
did you mount your /dev/hda2 on /hda2?? If you did, you may try cp 
 -R after that,
  you can then delete the /usr
 
 I typed, 'cp -R /usr /hda2/usr
 It is in the process of copying

I also passed the -a option to the `cp' command, it preserves files and
directory permissions, quite important I believe.

 When it done, what can I do to make /hda2/usr, just plain /usr?

add the following line to /etc/fstab:

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# file system mount point   type  options   dump  pass
/dev/hda2   /usrext2defaults0   2

Make sure you just copied the contents inside /usr to the new location, not
/usr as well.  Then, you should have an empty /usr directory.  When you
reboot, /dev/hda2 will be mounted in /usr.  Last time I did this, I copied
/usr as well, and I ended up having /usr/usr...

/usr
/home
/var

/usr/local
/usr/doc
... you might also make a new directory called /opt, in a separate
partition, and install there new *big* programs instead of /usr/local


Regards,

Horacio.


Re: Maximal Mount Count

1999-03-10 Thread homega
Mike Merten dixit:
 
 Actually, what I did was something more like this:
 
 # mount /dev/hda2 /mnt
 # cp -a /usr/* /mnt

right, /usr/* tells to copy everything inside /usr/, but not the /usr
directory name itself.  I think a different way to achieve this is:

# cp -ax /usr

 # umount /mnt
 # rm -r /usr/*
 # mount /dev/hda2 /usr
 
 Then edited /etc/fstab to add a line
 
 /dev/hda2   /usr   ext2   defaults   0  2

I believe you then mount /dev/hda2 to be able to edit /etc/fstab and add the
line... ah, I see now, the mount command does exist in /bin.  Instead, I
edited /etc/fstab and added the line first, then I removed the contents
inside /usr... and rebooted.  Many different ways to achieve the same goal.

I just wonder if I /lost+found subdirs created in new ext2 partitions can be
deleted or they have to stay there for any reason... they do take some
space.

Regards,

Horacio

 
 
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Upgrade LyX from Potato?

1999-03-10 Thread homega
I want to upgrade to LyX 1.0.1-1 from potato, since it seems slink was
released still with LyX 0.12.0.final-0.1.  So far upgrading packages from
slink in hamm has gone ok, but of course slink wasn't unstable but frozen. 

Will I have any problem upgrading a hamm package with one from potato
(including upgrading dependencies)?

Else, would it be a good idea to uninstall my current version of LyX and
installing a LyX 1.0 tarball?

Also, I posted the following question a couple of days ago... every now and
then, afterstep's menu config file (/etc/X11/afterstep/menudefs.hook) seems
to change back to before I added new menus (from /opt).  Anyway I can avoid
it?

TIA

Horacio


Re: bitchx (sucks!)

1999-03-09 Thread homega
steven walsh dixit:
 On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Wayne Topa wrote:
 [snip]
 
   I agree Steve, there are plenty of Manual(s) to read.  But for a new
  IRC user they sure confusing.  I have been trying to Window it but, as
  of yet, no luck.
 
   Sure, there's plenty of documentation, unfortunately that's like
 saying MS Office has plenty of documentation.  It's a pain to sort through
 sometimes because there's just too many features in it.

Steve, most of the docs you pointed out say next to nothing.  One may try to
guess (as surely most bitchx users do) how to work things out, and that
works some times, but not always.

What really puts me off is the fact that, eg., /help say, will tell me how
to show some fancy (but useless and annoying to others) way of echoing the
typed characters on screen, and though other commands, probably more useful,
there's no help available or almost none.

What DID make me angry was the fact that whenever I tried to join #bitchx to
get some help, I was banned from entering the reason being spammers,
flooders and cloners, oh my!

I just felt they didn't want most ppl using their program (whoever they
were), fair enough, just don't make it publicly available and make me waste
my time.

   My $.02

BTW, is there any way of typying the new euro sign?  how about the old cent
sign?

Horacio.


Segmentation fault - help please -

1999-03-09 Thread homega
Hi,

I quit x-window and try to connect as I did a while ago:

$ pon provider
hda: irq timeout: status=0x50 { Drive Ready SeekComplete }
/usr/bin/pon: line2: 5552 Segmentation fault/usr/sbin/pppd call
${1:-provider}

try again to the same results (just the 5552 number changes to 5562, 5572,
5574, 5587,...), so I try to su:

$ su
Segmentation fault

$ startx
-X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111 giving up.
xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server
xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error

$ mutt
Segmentation fault

Other commands such as cd, ls, less, or lynx do seem to work fine though. 
Then I type `exit' and reboot, and everything seems back to normal.
What went on?

TIA

Horacio


Re: bitchx (sucks!) (forwarded, oops!)

1999-03-09 Thread homega
 Could that be because your domain is banned?  I bet it is.  And why?
 Because they had problems with people from your domain flooding, spamming
 and clonning on their channel.  Some of the channels I ran banned entire
 COUNTRIES because of people like that.

Now I can freely assume that #bitchx has banned me b'c of my country of
origin, and feel free to spread that around.  Very well, they have their
right to do so (I can't assume it's b'c of my ISP domain since it's a rather
new one).

 So far I've seen no evidence of that.  So far all I've seen is a guy who
 does RTFM, is a clueless newbie who took a domain ban personally and is now
 whining publicly.

No, I admit I was angry, not b'c of the ban, but the way they do it...  the
predisposition to punning, also the lame bit...  no problem, I paid nothing
for bitchx, so I won't complaint.  Now, excuse me if I'd rather not follow
this argument with someone who is eager to take a complaint for a whine.

You know, some (many) Linux / Debian users find a barrier other than
veterany when it comes to understand things, we usually read the
documentation available in a language other than ours... but of course,
that's not your problem.

Horacio.


Re: bitchx (sucks!)

1999-03-09 Thread homega
Steve Lamb dixit:
 [ ... ] btw, so please, stop preaching to the choir.

and just what's calling someone publicly a clueless newbie... whining... ?

Horacio


Re: Repartition

1999-03-08 Thread homega
Mark Yobb dixit:
 A rough step by step would help me out a whole bunch.  Thanks

You might copy the whole filesystem (or by directories) to a different
location.  That depends on whether you have an empty partition where to do
this, or a tape drive like a zip drive.

A straight forward method would be by using the `cp' (copy) command or, if
you have not enough space available you could use `tar' (to archive and
compress).  In either case you should keep in mind the need to preserve
file and directories permissions as they are, as well as to copying symbolic
links as such, and not as files.  This can be achieved by passing the `a'
option to the copy command (`cp -a'), or the `preserve' option to the tar
command (`tar --preserve') (I haven't tried it with tar, but in theory,
 ^
`tar --preserve -zcvvf filename' should work).

You should have a thorough reading of the Hard-Disk-Upgrade mini-howto, as
Tom Pfeifer suggested.  Also, have a look at `man cp' and `man tar'.

Now, if you change the partition you will have to reflect this on your
/etc/fstab file.  For instance, if you currently have the entire Linux on
/dev/hda2, and decide to make several logical partitions out of it, so that
different partitions hold different directories, then you should change
/etc/fstab to something like this:

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# file system mount point   type  options   dump  pass
/dev/hda2   /   ext2defaults,errors=remount-ro   0  1
/dev/hda3   noneswapsw  0   0
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/hda4 /usr ext2 defaults 0 2
/dev/hda5   /home   ext2defaults0   2
/dev/hda6   /usr/local  ext2defaults0   2
/dev/hda7   /varext2defaults0   2

For all the above you will need a boot disk with which to run fdisk,
repartition, and then replacing the filesystem.

A more secure way to do this would be to just copying those directories where
you have your personal data, such as /home, /root, /etc, (probably /var, and
/usr/local if you have installed programs there)... then resizing the
partition and reinstalling Debian.  After that, you'll just have to replace
the directories you want to preserve.  This way is more secure and less
painful, in my opinion.

Whichever method you choose (the ones mentioned, those in Hard-Disk-Upgrade
mini-howto, or else) plan it carefully before starting, as you risk loosing
data or worst if you make a silly mistake.

Finally, wait for some more insights on this message, since I do decline all
responsibility on any damages this may cause.

One problem I did find was that `cp -a' did not preserve /tmp and /var/tmp
permissions (drwxrwxrwt), and since some programs could not write to them
(eg. mutt), they would not properly work until I restored them to their
original permission by hand.

Good luck,

Horacio.


Re: Linux

1999-03-08 Thread homega
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit:
 I would like to invest in Linux but can't find a stock in that name --
 can you help

Could anyone check if the real sender behind this email might be someone at
the M$ Corporation?

;o)


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