Re: aptitude: loading ChangeLog
* Martin Kuball ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi! When I download the ChangeLog of an upgradeable package with command C I get the ChangeLog of the old version. Naturally I want to see the ChangeLog of the new version to find out what actuall changed. So is this a bug in aptitude or am I doing something wrong? Hit ``v'' to see the list of versions, aim at the new version, and hit ``C''. cheers, iain -- If sharing a thing in no way diminishes it, it is not rightly owned if it is not shared. -- St. Augustine #rm -rf / http://www.geeksoc.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: mailto protocol in firefox (OT?)
* Patrick Wiseman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: This may be OT, but I've experienced the mailto frustration in firefox as a debian user, and so offer a solution to other debian users. Or, you could just install the mozex extension[1], which allows you to setup a mailto: handler, as well as a few other nifty things. cheers, iain [1] http://mozex.mozdev.org/ -- If sharing a thing in no way diminishes it, it is not rightly owned if it is not shared. -- St. Augustine #rm -rf / http://www.geeksoc.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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Hmm, is lists.d.o up again? iain -- If sharing a thing in no way diminishes it, it is not rightly owned if it is not shared. -- St. Augustine #rm -rf / http://www.geeksoc.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pasting into vi inserts many indents
* Laszlo Szathmary ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: :set pastetoggle=F9 instead of F9 you can use another key too. In this case if you want to insert a selected text, change with F9 to paste mode, paste the text, then with F9 change back to normal insert mode. At the bottom vi gives you info in which mode you are. (you can press F9 in insert mode too) sweet! thank you for this gem of wisdom. iain -- If sharing a thing in no way diminishes it, it is not rightly owned if it is not shared. -- St. Augustine #rm -rf / http://www.geeksoc.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mutt - saving message to disk (not mail folder)
* Micha Feigin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: How do I save a mail message to disk with mutt? I want to save it to disk, not another mail folder (saving to a different mail folder appears quite clearly in the docs but couldn't find save to disk). hit '|' type 'cat filename' that's what i did earlier today, when I couldn't figure it out either. :D iain -- If sharing a thing in no way diminishes it, it is not rightly owned if it is not shared. -- St. Augustine #rm -rf / http://www.geeksoc.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pasting into vi inserts many indents
* Brian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, Lately, if I open a file with vi from inside a gnome-terminal and then select a large chunk of text, (it doesn't matter where, e.g., Mozilla or the same vi session, both do it), it corrupts the formatting with many indents. The pasted output inserts more indents on each line than there were on the previous line to create a cascading formatting. Can someone :set paste -- If sharing a thing in no way diminishes it, it is not rightly owned if it is not shared. -- St. Augustine #rm -rf / http://www.geeksoc.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: big troubles in little libc
* iain d broadfoot ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: * David Z Maze ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: and you'll generally get a segfault where the program actually messes up, rather than when the symptoms are seen later. There's a cost in both memory and runtime, but using LD_PRELOAD inside gdb makes this a lot less permanent. The thing that I find strangest is that the dying apps haven't changed recently... This is getting bad, mozilla-firebird is dying as well. Has anyone else had similar problems? iain -- If sharing a thing in no way diminishes it, it is not rightly owned if it is not shared. -- St. Augustine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: big troubles in little libc
* iain d broadfoot ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Has anyone else had similar problems? OK, more debugging finds the following: (gdb) backtrace #0 0x407196c9 in free () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x4096e34f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 #2 0x0001 in ?? () #3 0x409c98e8 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 #4 0xbfffcdd8 in ?? () #5 0x4096e7aa in FT_Free () from /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 Previous frame identical to this frame (corrupt stack?) thoughts/flames welcome... iain -- If sharing a thing in no way diminishes it, it is not rightly owned if it is not shared. -- St. Augustine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[FIXED]Don't use gsfonts-other Was: Re: big troubles in little libc
* iain d broadfoot ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: thoughts/flames welcome... From http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=216605 For those who encounter this bug: you should either remove gsfonts-other, or keep the previous version of fontconfig, until this bug is fixed. sorry for the noise everyone, iain -- If sharing a thing in no way diminishes it, it is not rightly owned if it is not shared. -- St. Augustine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
big troubles in little libc
Hey list, I'm having a few problems with programs dying: liferea:0x407196c9 in free () from /lib/libc.so.6 gaim: 0x407466c9 in free () from /lib/libc.so.6 I can't see a bugreport about this on libc6, and it doesn't feel like the individual apps are doing anything in particular wrong... Any brilliant flashes of insight? cheers, iain -- If sharing a thing in no way diminishes it, it is not rightly owned if it is not shared. -- St. Augustine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: big troubles in little libc
* David Z Maze ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: and you'll generally get a segfault where the program actually messes up, rather than when the symptoms are seen later. There's a cost in both memory and runtime, but using LD_PRELOAD inside gdb makes this a lot less permanent. The thing that I find strangest is that the dying apps haven't changed recently... (gdb) run Starting program: /home/ibroadfo/tmp/gaim-0.70/src/gaim [New Thread 16384 (LWP 25567)] Electric Fence 2.1 Copyright (C) 1987-1998 Bruce Perens. ElectricFence Aborting: free(1): address not from malloc(). Program received signal SIGILL, Illegal instruction. [Switching to Thread 16384 (LWP 25567)] 0x40702641 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) (gdb) run Starting program: /home/ibroadfo/tmp/liferea-0.4.3/src/liferea [New Thread 16384 (LWP 27561)] Electric Fence 2.1 Copyright (C) 1987-1998 Bruce Perens. ElectricFence Aborting: free(1): address not from malloc(). Program received signal SIGILL, Illegal instruction. [Switching to Thread 16384 (LWP 27561)] 0x406cd641 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) iain -- If sharing a thing in no way diminishes it, it is not rightly owned if it is not shared. -- St. Augustine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems accessing /. with straw
for the last week or so, I've been unable to access the slashdot rss feeds using straw - all my other feeds are fine, and I can wget the .rss files manually. is anyone else experiencing this? I'm wary of filing a bug on straw over this, as it's quite possibly something else entirely. cheers, iain -- If sharing a thing in no way diminishes it, it is not rightly owned if it is not shared. -- St. Augustine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SCO identifies code?
* Bijan Soleymani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 08:43:21AM +0100, Mark wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 09:33:03PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote: This makes a lot of sense. I mean if the FSF hired you to write a GPL program, they wouldn't want you to release a proprietary version of it after you quit working for them. Why would they care? They would have their GPLed version, if you choose to write a closed version, that's your choice. If they didn't care about closed version they wouldn't use the GPL. This is broken logic. The FSF would have nothing to lose from a closed version of a GPL piece of software being developed. If GPL'd(GPLed? which is less stoopid?) _code_ was used, that'd be a different issue though. iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. If sharing a thing in no way diminishes it, it is not rightly owned if it is not shared. -St. Augustine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Obnoxious autoresponders was:Re: Out of Office AutoReply: how NOT to work with debian
* Johann Koenig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I got that one too, but it was only right after I posted. /me thinks. Alright, now it makes sense. I went through the message I replied to looking for any reference to the person I got the message from, thinking I might have cc'd them by mistake. Nope, guess it looks like someone is just being an idiot. If we're lucky, the system'll be smart enough to only send one message to each address it receives from - if not, the poor bastard's server must be melting under the strain. iain (saves us doing it for him, i suppose...) -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. If sharing a thing in no way diminishes it, it is not rightly owned if it is not shared. -St. Augustine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Obnoxious autoresponders was:Re: Out of Office AutoReply: how NOT to work with debian
* Petrisor Marian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [an entirely blank message with a semi-informative subject line] This pisses me off majorly - my message was addressed to the list only. If someone goes on holiday (which is the only good reason to have autoresponders) they should have the courtesy to take themselves off the list for the time they are away. iain (and yes, i know i'm likely to get another response from this message as well.) -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. If sharing a thing in no way diminishes it, it is not rightly owned if it is not shared. -St. Augustine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how NOT to work with debian
* Richard Lyons ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Monday 11 August 2003 3:36 am, Antony Gelberg wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 01:25:48AM +0200, Richard Lyons wrote: [...general description snipped...] Give more technical detail. How are you trying to start X? Most importantly of all, what do the error messages say? Yes. I do 'startx' - it switches to tty7 and a big debian logo on crumpled paper appears. Looks like correct screen res. etc. The mouse is active. There is a square thing called 'main' with a paperclip icon and two arrow corners. This widget can be moved around. Three more suare widgets top right may be part of the bitmap or may be just not active. sounds like twm or similar nasty WM... try running 'kdm' or similar rather than startx, that should let you get into KDE. iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. If sharing a thing in no way diminishes it, it is not rightly owned if it is not shared. -St. Augustine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Doesn't MY_ENV=abc printf ${MY_ENV}\n suppose to print abc?
* Shaul Karl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Package: bash
Version: 2.05b-8.1
According to my understanding of the manual page,
$ MY_ENV=abc printf ${MY_ENV}\n
Should have print abc. But it does not:
$ MY_ENV=abc printf ${MY_ENV}\n
$
What am I missing?
an 'export' and a ';', like so:
$ export MY_ENV=abc ; printf ${MY_ENV}\n
abc
iain
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Re: Doesn't MY_ENV=abc printf ${MY_ENV}\n suppose to print abc?
* Shaul Karl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 10:22:19PM +0100, iain d broadfoot wrote:
* Shaul Karl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Package: bash
Version: 2.05b-8.1
According to my understanding of the manual page,
$ MY_ENV=abc printf ${MY_ENV}\n
Should have print abc. But it does not:
$ MY_ENV=abc printf ${MY_ENV}\n
$
What am I missing?
an 'export' and a ';', like so:
$ export MY_ENV=abc ; printf ${MY_ENV}\n
abc
Your proposal has some side effects which might be undesirable. More
specifically, with your proposal MY_ENV will be set until you
explicitly unset it or exit the shell. With what I tried to do, MY_ENV
will only be set for the following command. There will be no need to
explicitly unset it or exit the shell in order for it to disappear
afterwards. In addition, the construct I am trying to use is a well
known construct and the man page says it should work. Is it a bug?
i can't see in the man page an example like the one you show, what
section is it in?
Can you try on your machine the line that I have asked about and see
if that is working for you? What version of bash are you using?
i get the same results as you.
the other respondent explained the reason for the (apparent) problem, i
think.
iain
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Re: batch renaming for filenames with space
* Micha Feigin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I am trying to do a batch rename for a bunch of files with spaces in the
name (in order to remove the spaces actually). I tried to use bash's for
.. in command but it splits up the lines on spaces and not on line ends.
Any ideas?
The files are named Copy of ... and I want to drop the Copy of part.
I tried to do
for file in `ls -1`; do
cp $file `echo -n $file | sed 's/Copy of \(.*\)/\1/'`
done
but like I said the file name is split into three matches, one for
Copy, one for of and one for the rest (no more spaces).
perl installs a script called 'rename' which you can call like this:
rename -v 'y/\ /_/' * == changes all spaces to underscores
rename -v 's/Copy\ of\ //' * == replaces 'Copy of ' with nothing
the -v outputs a line telling you what each file has been renamed to.
if you've got lots of directories, try
find -name '*\ *' -exec rename -v 'y/\ /_/' \{\} \;
which i _think_ will work ok, but test it on non-critical files first.
iain
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Re: mouse wheel scrolling in mutt ???
* Michael D. Schleif ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Seems like such a simple little thing. Yes, I know that this is not really on-topic. However, when I am reading long emails, it would really be nice to use the mouse wheel to scroll down the page, just as I do with webpages. mutt doesn't do meeces at all. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ zgrep mouse /usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ I'm running mutt in rxvt, if that matters. I asked this in mutt-users. One suggestion is to use imwheel; but, reading the description, I do not see how this can help me. no, imwheel won't help. What do you think? you could always pipe long messages through a CLI-www-browser (elinks/wm3/whatever) since they tend to know about mouses. iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. If sharing a thing in no way diminishes it, it is not rightly owned if it is not shared. -St. Augustine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: does make-kpkg work for kernel 2.5/2.6?
* Nick Hastings ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, * Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030718 11:21]: Hello All, just wondering if make-kpkg works with kernel 2.5/2.6 or if I am doing something wrong. I worked with 2.6 for me. me too, i didn't notice having to do anything different... daniel, what's going wrong? iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. If sharing a thing in no way diminishes it, it is not rightly owned if it is not shared. -St. Augustine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: America's Army
* Hugh Saunders ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: i agree, now i dont like oranges, so should i hate nazis?? oh look, a mention of the nazis, i declare this thread dead :p you do know that doesn't work, right? -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. If sharing a thing in no way diminishes it, it is not rightly owned if it is not shared. -St. Augustine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: America's Army
* Hugh Saunders ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 07:31:46PM +0100, iain d broadfoot wrote: * Hugh Saunders ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: i agree, now i dont like oranges, so should i hate nazis?? oh look, a mention of the nazis, i declare this thread dead :p you do know that doesn't work, right? evidently ;) but was worth a try!! actually, it's been proven not to work: 6. Hitler! Ha! The thread is over! Nope, doesn't work that way. Not only is it wrong to say that a thread is over when Godwin's Law is invoked anyway (Usenet threads virtually always outlive their usefulness), but long ago a corollary to the Law was proposed and accepted by Taki Quirk Kogama ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Quirk's Exception: Intentional invocation of this so-called Nazi Clause is ineffectual. Sorry, folks. Nice try, though. from http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/ iain ps :D -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. If sharing a thing in no way diminishes it, it is not rightly owned if it is not shared. -St. Augustine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: America's Army
* Hugh Saunders ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: who said my invocation was intentional? hmm. the fact that you invoked it means it was intentional, surely... i'm not aware that it's possible to accidentally invocate. :) iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. If sharing a thing in no way diminishes it, it is not rightly owned if it is not shared. -St. Augustine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Advice on tuning bogofilter
* Anthony Campbell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Currently bogofilter is classifying all my mail as spam.
I've read the tuning faq but am fairly confused by the large number of
parameters you can tune. Can anyone suggest what is the simplest thing
to try first please?
since you're using mutt:
macro index B pipe-entrybogofilter -n\n non-spam
macro pager B pipe-entrybogofilter -n\n non-spam
macro index S pipe-entrybogofilter -s\n spam
macro pager S pipe-entrybogofilter -s\n spam
those lines in your .muttrc let you control things nicely.
(choose different keys if those are already used, of course. :D)
if everything is getting badly classified, it might be worth deleting
the files in ~/.bogofilter/, and starting again.
you don't say how bogofilter is getting the email, i have the following
in ~/.procmailrc (basically ripped from the bogofilter manpage):
# filter mail through bogofilter, tagging it as spam and
:0fw
| bogofilter -e -p
# if bogofilter failed, return the mail to the queue, the MTA will
# retry to deliver it later
# 75 is the value for EX_TEMPFAIL in /usr/include/sysexits.h
:0e
{ EXITCODE=75 HOST }
# file the mail to SPAM if it's spam.
:0:
* ^X-Bogosity: Yes, tests=bogofilter
SPAM
note that in the manpage, we are told to use the -u option to
bogofilter, i changed this mainly because it was slowing things down a
lot... my current system works really well, with very few false
negatives, and ZERO positives so far.
hope this helps,
iain
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Re: Question about command-line aptitude 0.2.11.1
* Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Thanks. However, one thing puzzles me: bluefish, gaim, gedit, logjam pan are terminal packages. I.e., nothing depends on them. What happened is that they depend on gnome-spell, so when I removed it, these other packages were also removed. Is that a bug in aptitude? no, it's sane. they depend on a package, so they won't work without that package. iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. If sharing a thing in no way diminishes it, it is not rightly owned if it is not shared. -St. Augustine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wrong address on reply (on debian maillist)
* David Sudjiman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Dear All, I'm new on debian lists and I'm using pine455. When I replied from [EMAIL PROTECTED], why does my pine always reply to sender and not to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tricks? because the email was sent From: the sender, not from the list. there may be an option to reply to the list, but i don't know pine ATALL. :D there _should_ be a 'reply to all' function available though. iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. If sharing a thing in no way diminishes it, it is not rightly owned if it is not shared. -St. Augustine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ACPI HOWTO (draft #2)
* Emma Jane Hogbin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: For those who are interested I've got my second draft of an ACPI HOWTO online. http://xtrinsic.com/geek/articles/acpi.phtml Please feel free to let me know if you there are any parts which are unclear or flat-out wrong. :) looks fine to me - the only differences between your methods and mine are probably bugs in my head anyway. :D this howto would have been welcome last year, when i first started struggling through getting my laptop into a happy place. cheers, iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. If sharing a thing in no way diminishes it, it is not rightly owned if it is not shared. -St. Augustine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jigdo-lite problems.
* David Gaston ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi all, I've tried to download debian from my uni's mirror, as well as from other us non-us mirrors, keep getting the same error: 10:36:06 (88.58 KB/s) - `driver-4.bin' saved [1474560/1474560] Any possibilities of it being a local problem?? yep, you have the wrong version of jigdo installed locally. :D the version shipped with woody can't handle downloading woody ISOs. have a look on the debian-cd list archives to see solutions for this. iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
eep, gcc update no likey!
i hope i'm not the only one stuck with this: most recent gcc3.2 update in unstable, libgcj3-dev and libstdc++5-dev both depend on LIBC_DEV(yes, with caps), which oddly enough isn't in the system. :D previous version (which i'm holding at) both depend on libc6-dev instead. have my mirrors gone insane? iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: eep, gcc update no likey!
* Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 12:02:39AM +, iain d broadfoot wrote: i hope i'm not the only one stuck with this: most recent gcc3.2 update in unstable, libgcj3-dev and libstdc++5-dev both depend on LIBC_DEV(yes, with caps), which oddly enough isn't in the system. :D That would be what the bug tracking system's for - fortunately it's already been filed for libstdc++5-dev, and the maintainer seems to know about the problem. reportbug scares me, the last few have been luser error. :p thought i'd check here (then i noticed it in the bts as well). thanks, iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: leafnode not posting articles
* Shaul Karl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
newsq shows them.
$fetchnews -P -
says 0 articles posted.
nothing in /var/log/news/ to indicate a problem.
what do i need to do to force leafnode to push my articles upstream??
iain
Aren't there messages in /var/log/syslog?
attaching the only syslog output that shows up when i run fetchnews as
above.
doesn't look like errors to me, but maybe i'm looking for the wrong
things?
You might want to post your configuration from
/etc/news/{server,leafnode}.
/etc/news/leafnode/config attached.
cheers,
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debugmode=2
## This is the NNTP server leafnode fetches its news from.
## You need read and post access to it. Mandatory.
server = localhost
## Unread articles will be deleted after this many days if
## you don't define special expire times. Mandatory.
expire = 1
##
## All the following parameters are optional
##
## Important and recommended setting:
## Fetch only a few articles when we subscribe a new newsgroup. The
## default is to fetch all articles.
## As leafnode forgets the article numbers of its upstream server when
## a group is marked as uninteresting, and later marked interesting
## again, you may end up downloading ALL articles from the upstream
## in that group. So uncomment and adjust this line:
# initialfetch = 100
## I have free access to my news server. If you don't have, comment out
## the following two lines and change them accordingly.
#username = ibroadfo
#password = d3b14nr0ck5!
## By default, leafnode only serves connections from addresses in the
## local networks and drops those from outside. An IPv4 address is
## considered local if it is within the networks (IP/netmask) of the local
## interfaces. An IPv6 address is considered local if it is site-local,
## link-local or the loopback address (::1).
## If you do have working AND TESTED access restriction in place, and if your
## leafnode is wrapped with tcpd and you have selected remote users you
## still want to let in, uncomment this, capitalize the strangers part
## of the name and set this to 42. Yes, I know, this is ugly. But most
## users will not need it. And it's dangerous.
## AGAIN: ONLY SET THIS WHEN WORKING AND TIGHT ACCESS CONTROL
## (hosts.deny, tcpd) IS IN PLACE. USING THIS OPTION WITHOUT ACCESS CONTROL
## WILL OPEN LEAFNODE TO ABUSE, SPAMMING, SUBSCRIBE YOU TO GROUPS YOU DO
## NOT WANT ETC. ## YOU REALLY DO NOT WANT TO ENABLE THIS OPTION. TRUST ME.
# allowstrangers = 0
## Standard news servers run on port 119. If your newsserver doesn't, comment
## out the following line and change it accordingly.
port = 563
## If you want to guarantee that the stdout/stderr are line buffered
## (GNU libc sets them to full buffering if they are redirected to
## files), then set this:
# linebuffer = 1
## This is another news server which stores some groups that are not
## available on the first one. You can define username, password and port
## for each server separately.
# server = sex.and.warez.com
# username = xenu
# password = secret
## This is a news server which does not understand the
## LIST NEWSGROUP news.group command. For this reason, we don't try to
## download newsgroups descriptions when getting new newsgroups. This is
## achieved by putting nodesc = 1 somewhere behind the server
## line.
# server = broken.upstream.server
# nodesc = 1
## Here we have another news server which has a very slow connection. For
## that reason, we wait a full minute before we give up trying to connect.
## The default is 10 seconds.
# server = really.slow.snail
# timeout = 60
## Disable the updating of the active file unless specifically requested
## in order to minimise network usage as much as possible. The active
## file can be updated manually with the -f option to fetchnews.
# server = even.slower
# noactive = 1
## And this is a news server you only want to pull news from, but never
## post to. You can also use this as a workaround if you do not have posting
## permission on the server while it still greets you with a 200 code.
## The default is: nopost = 0
# server = lurk-only.example.com
# nopost = 1
## And this is a news server you only want to post to, but never
## fetch messages from. If set, noactive = 1 is also assumed.
## The default is: noread = 0
# server = post-only.example.com
# noread = 1
## This shows how a server is configured that only has specific news
## groups. Note that this parameter is a PCRE, not a wildmat! See
## pcre(3) or pcre(7), depending on your PCRE version.
# server = cnews.corel.com
# only_groups_pcre = corel\.
## Non-standard expire times (glob(7) wildcard constructs possible)
#
# groups too big to hold articles 20 days:
# groupexpire comp.os.linux.* = 5
#
# very interesting, hold articles longer:
# groupexpire any.local.newsgroup = 100
#
# archive this group (fetchnews uses the global expire to figure the
# maxage, but texpire will skip it):
# groupexpire my.archived.group = -1
Re: leafnode not posting articles
* Shaul Karl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: well, all fixed now. the permissions on /var/spool/news/ were evilly wrong, fixed now. thanks to everyone who tried to help, iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Actually Way OT - Debian version names
* Rob Weir ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Is it just me, or is your client consistently and annoyingly breaking threads? it's not just you. my mutt is set to _not_ thread by subject, and in any case doing such is unlikely to track exactly who anyone is replying to. thanks for speaking up! :D iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Actually Way OT - Debian version names
* deFreese, Barry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Is it just me, or is your client consistently and annoyingly breaking threads? -- Rob Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ertius.org/ If your talking to me, it would surprise me. I'm stuck with Outlook at work!! :-( your email has no References: header, which threads emails (afaik). your user-agent is reported as internet mail service, not outlook. iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
leafnode not posting articles
newsq shows them. $fetchnews -P - says 0 articles posted. nothing in /var/log/news/ to indicate a problem. what do i need to do to force leafnode to push my articles upstream?? iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Taking over your desktop, one box at a time
* Jonathan Matthews ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 02:08:57AM -0500, Patrick McFarland wrote: This is probably offtopic for this list, but can everyone download http://freshmeat.net/projects/debian_gel_logo/ (Debian Gel/Aqua Logo Background) and tell me what they think of it? lovin' it. iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lots (ok, a few) of packages with -woody and -sarge versions
packages whose version ends with woody or sarge take precedence over the _real_ packages, and so try to downgrade other libs and such... i've currently got 12 or so 'held' to avoid this. iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lots (ok, a few) of packages with -woody and -sarge versions
* Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 06:51:01PM +, iain d broadfoot wrote: packages whose version ends with woody or sarge take precedence over the _real_ packages, and so try to downgrade other libs and such... The real packages? They *are* the real packages. There's a strict version comparison algorithm which everything uses. I'm not sure what you're talking about here; an example might help. sorry, my anti-verbose hat was on. :p running a testing/unstable box. i just did a apt-cache policy on each of the packages in question, and the woody/sarge versions are from marilat, not debian. oopsy! my bad, and also my problem. sorry for my temporary luserity, iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Opera
* David Turetsky ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I'm currently downloading Opera 6 to my linux machine and would like to install it It's a deb file, downloading to /home/david (which is where I'm logged in and running Mozilla) dpkg -i SOMETHING.deb How do I proceed? -- David -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
case sensitivity in menu
is it possible for menu entries to be sorted case-insensitively? it's a bugger trying to work out whether the first letter of my new program is going to be capitalised or not... iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Blackdown's JVM (was Re: ArgoUML)
* Oki DZ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, It seems that the problem continues. I thought that the problem was on the JVM. Then I downloaded JRE1.4 from Blackdown. I'm still having: An unexpected exception has been detected in native code outside the VM. Unexpected Signal : 11 occurred at PC=0x4CC35FCF Function=GetFontInfo__19type1FileFontObject+0x4BB Library=/usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/lib/i386/libfontmanager.so Current Java thread: at sun.awt.font.NativeFontWrapper.registerFonts(Native Method) - locked 0x484611c0 (a java.lang.Class) What's the problem with the libfontmanager.so? Has anyone been successfully running JRE2 1.4.x on Debian systems? (ArgoUML can be run on JVM ver. 1.3.) yep. blackdown 1.4.whatever, and argouml works fine. limewire likewise runs fine. kernel 2.4.20 with swsusp and acpi, as though that'd make any diff... iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: phoenix hangs on ctrl-u
* Anthony Campbell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On 06 Feb 2003, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: Hey all: I'm not entirely sure what to do about this problem. Phoenix used to allow me to view the source of a page using control-u. Now whenever I use the shortcut the browser hangs (doesn't allow me to minimize the window, open any menus, etc). I thought maybe it was because I had an incompatible something or other. So I did the fooling thing and apt-get upgraded. The browser /still/ hangs on control-u. Is there an error log somewhere that might give me some clues? Viewing source on HTML pages is an extremely important part of my job...seriously. I don't think they use the same installed code base but mozilla is perfectly happy showing me the source of the page with control-u. Any help would be much appreciated. emma Just tried it here; it worked without problems. This is with the current stable release of phoenix (1.5 I think). mine too. only thought is: remove all your plugins (put them somewhere you can find them again) then run phoenix, and try it out. if it doesn't work, rename your .phoenix directory, and try again. if _that_ doesn't work, purge phoenix (delete everything) and try again. (make appropriate backups - probably bookmarks.html at least). hth, iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: phoenix hangs on ctrl-u
* Emma Jane Hogbin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 10:19:37PM +, iain d broadfoot wrote: if it doesn't work, rename your .phoenix directory, and try again. That worked, thanks!! Any idea why this worked? must have been something silly in your preferences somewhere, try not to worry about it - it's bad for the soul. you almost certainly didn't do anything wrong... :D iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
do i need stable in my sources.list?
testing/unstable, do i still need the stable entries? iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ctrl+Alt+1 not generated in X11, but Ctrl+Alt+[2-9] is
* Maciej Kalisiak ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I discovered a bizarre problem with my XFree86 (xserver-xfree86 4.2.1-3): the Ctrl+Alt+1 combo does not seem to be generated. Under xev I see an event for the Ctrl key down, Alt key down, but not for the 1... pressing 1 at that point generates no X11 event. Oddly, the other digits in 1's place work fine. I've even tested this by firing up just a plain xterm in .xsession instead of a window manager, and running xev from there. Any hints as to what might be wrong and how to proceed in uncovering the culprit? Can anyone verify that this combo works fine on their Debian setup? (preferably on a setup similar to mine: Debian is setup here on a DELL Inspiron 7000 laptop; even a desktop Pentium II or higher might be still a good point of reference). no idea if this is a similar setup or not :p but ctrlalt1/2/3/4 all work fine for me. testing/unstable on a sony vaio fx405 running 4.2.1-4. iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Quick aptitude question...
* ZephyrQ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I'm trying to take better control of my installation, and fired up aptitude. I inadvertently tried to do an upgrade (to woody rc1) a while back and am trying to cancel it. Is there a way to 'wipe' queued actions and/or reset aptitude? when you hit 'g' to get the 'do this' screen, select the lines that say 'install' or 'upgrade' or similar, and hit '_' to purge, '-' to remove or '=' to hold(hold means keep installed, don't upgrade) - this should cut down the number of things on the todo list. hth, iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(forw) [hugh@mjr.org: Re: Quick aptitude question...]
- Forwarded message from Hugh Saunders [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:57:15 + From: Hugh Saunders [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: iain d broadfoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-SpamProbe: Subject: Re: Quick aptitude question... X-CIS-MailScanner: Found to be clean On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 09:22:46PM +, iain d broadfoot wrote: * ZephyrQ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I'm trying to take better control of my installation, and fired up aptitude. I inadvertently tried to do an upgrade (to woody rc1) a while back and am trying to cancel it. Is there a way to 'wipe' queued actions and/or reset aptitude? when you hit 'g' to get the 'do this' screen, select the lines that say 'install' or 'upgrade' or similar, and hit '_' to purge, '-' to remove or '=' to hold(hold means keep installed, don't upgrade) - this should cut down the number of things on the todo list. if youve told aptitude you want to upgrade a package, but havent actually done the upgrade, how do you then reset its status to installed -its a pain to do hold as that break dependencies when you upgrade other things. hugh - End forwarded message - i'm not sure you can, using aptitude - it likes upgrading automatically. have a look in the options to see if you can turn off that behaviour. at the same time, why do you want to avoid woodyr1 exactly? iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (forw) [hugh@mjr.org: Re: Quick aptitude question...]
* Hugh Saunders ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: not avoiding woodyr1 but i dont have fast connection [56k dialup] so i want to aptiutude to install what i select and its dependencies [nothing else- bit like apt-get install -which is what i end up using!] but as ive fiddled about with it, aptitude has a list of about 150 packages it wants to upgrade/install so everytime i use aptitude i use the shift-i to only install what i want. [if want to upgrade, do apt-get update apt-get upgrade -y and leve it over night!] so not essential as can use apt-get but to make aptitude more usefull it would be good to be able synchronise its status with the current system package status hum, you _could_ rename sources.list, do an update then put it back... not sure if that'd cause a plaugue of locusts or not though. iain hugh ps: replying to right place this time! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vim and basic .bashrc questions
* Seneca ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 04:37:13PM -0800, CM Miller wrote: I like to do programming in the Linux environment cause I love VIM. I can run VIM as root, but not as cmmiller. I've never had that problem with vim. What happens when you try? Also, I have been able to set .bashrc preferences as root, like rm = rm -i. This works for root, but not for my user cmmiller. How can I make these changes for cmmiller as well? In ~cmmiller/.bash_profile uncomment: if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then source ~/.bashrc fi however, this is a _BAD_IDEA_. if you happen to sit down at a machine where this alias is not active, and you think it is, guess what happens? :p iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: restricting wireless access
* martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: also sprach iain d broadfoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003.01.11.2115 +0100]: Squid is a FTP, HTTP and HTTPS proxy cache. For general information on marketing you can't proxy HTTPS, think about it. squid can tunnel it, but that's not more than an circuit level gateway. h. d'oh! i know ssh can't be sensibly proxied though, and i have no idea what ipsec is. :D ssh can't be proxied for the same reason that HTTPS can't be proxied. semi-d'oh! iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: restricting wireless access
* martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: also sprach iain d broadfoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003.01.11.0015 +0100]: as i understand wireless, there is no solution to blocking clients connecting - macs can be faked, ssids are plaintext, wep is crackable fairly quickly... my philosophy: if there's a cracker outside my door capable of cracking WEP (i know it isn't difficult, but it isn't trivial either), then he should just come up and drink a tea with me. I just want to prevent the passerby access. hmm, is that an invite? :D it depends on your current setup, but you could just firewall everything and use proxies for machines on your side possibly? there are not SSH, HTTPS or IPsec proxies. That's most of what I use. SQUID(8) SQUID(8) NAME squid - Internet ObjectCache SYNOPSIS /usr/sbin/squid [-hsvzCDFNRSVXY] [-d level] [-f file] [-[au] port] [-k signal] DESCRIPTION Squid is a FTP, HTTP and HTTPS proxy cache. For general information on squid, please read the very well commented configuration file /etc/squid.conf. More information can also be found in the files in the directory /usr/share/doc/squid , including a FAQ. Also check out the squid homepage at http://squid.nlanr.net/. i know ssh can't be sensibly proxied though, and i have no idea what ipsec is. :D iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: restricting wireless access
* martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: i have a cheap-ass wireless access point which doesn't even do MAC-based authentication, and neither can I get WEP64 to work between it (Addtron AWS-110) and the Orinoco Silver card. I would like to have wireless in my appartment, but I need to prevent folks on the street from linking into the network. The question is how. I want to prevent them from using my internet connection just as much as accessing local computers behind the firewall. as i understand wireless, there is no solution to blocking clients connecting - macs can be faked, ssids are plaintext, wep is crackable fairly quickly... it depends on your current setup, but you could just firewall everything and use proxies for machines on your side possibly? iain wh33, y1p33 3tc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: basics about nntpservers, slrnpull, slrn
* Robert Land ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: As having great difficulties in setting up a offline newsreader system for various users on a debian box I would grately appreciate some guidance. My intention is to have a systemwide spool directory where each user on this box may access his beloved newsgroup he has subscribed to. Some people recommended to use slrn as I wanted to have a text based newsreader. To enable offline newsreading slrnpull.deb might be helpful. To my understanding all desired newsgroups that have to be replicated have to be defined in /var/spool/slrnpull/slrnpull.conf but nothing seems to help me to define where each slrn user saves _his_ newsgroup subscriptions, the newsgroups he is only interested in. I'm not thinking of the contents, the message bodies hereby, only the name of the newsgroup. slrn does this automagically - if youfollow the setup/install steps, it'll go find out newsgroup names (from the spool in your case) and then write a .newsrc for each user. the user then uses slrn to choose which groups to subscribe to, and this is saved in their .newrc. (it's a versatile little file!) Having the replication of a few newsgroups in mind ( 12) and to install a local newserver apt-cache suggested: + leafnode + cnews+nntp i'm currently using slrnpull and slrn, but i'm the only user so you might be better off with a bigger local server. iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Limiting SU
* Andrew Pritchard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Is there a way of limiting who and SU to root? don't tell them the root password? iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Limiting SU
* Andrew Pritchard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Is there a way of limiting who and SU to root? don't tell them the root password? iain I can just see some jokers trying to guess the root password. I realise this will come out in the logs, but I don't want them even able to try. why not? there's always a way to login as root, whether by ssh'ing or just trying at the login prompt - su is just a convenience. iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel recompile
apt-get install kernel-package hth, iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssl newsreader
* Glyn Millington ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: If I understand the manual aright then Gnus supports SSL - but that might require a change of editors too? it does, but that'd require a change of user. :D i'm flexible, but not enough to use emacs... iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssl newsreader
* Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Just curious, but why would you want to encrypt something that's going to be public after the first hop anyway? our dept has some internal (private) ngs that i need access to. i suppose i could do something nasty where i use my isp newsserver at home, and my dept one when i'm up there, but that gets kinda ugly... iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssl newsreader
* Vineet Kumar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Some news servers require authentication via username/password, which is often the same username/password used to authenticate to the ISP and its POP server. thats right, our dept uses our unix acct for pop/nntp as well. iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ssl newsreader
hey listers. what newsreaders support ssl nntp servers? i'm currently using slrn, but it's a bit irritating for me. i'm almost tempted to start using mozillanews again. :p i think i've tried all the clients in debian that i can see, but if anyone has any solutions please shout at me. cheers, iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssl newsreader
* nate ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: you can use stunnel to ssl-enable any nntp reader, though I have not tried stunnel for this purpose, nor have I read newsgroups in years so . from the manpage: -n proto Negotiate SSL with specified protocol currently supported: smtp, pop3, nntp hmm, i must have missed that bit of the manpage. cheers, i'll have a look again. iirc, stunnel uses certificates, and my dept doesn't like them... cheers nate, iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssl newsreader
* Mark Janssen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: If your willing to change newsreaders you could try out 'PAN'. It's great for binaries and quite good for text groups too. It supports SSL. i'm very willing to change. :D i tried pan, but i couldn't see any sign of ssl support. damn these tired eyes! will hunt again... iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.4.18 to 2.4.19/20 locks up
after copying the old config file, do a make oldconfig this will ask all new options, and write a new .config that will work happily. enjoy! iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
acpi+2.4.20?
anyone had any joy acpi-patching the debian 2.4.20 source? i'm gonna try the vanilla 2.4.20 too... cheers, iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
i'm a dumbass was: lots of problems with apt-get deb verification
i had debsig-verify installed. d'oh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [somewhat OT] archiving solutions for posterity
Mark Roach wrote: Hi, all. I have recently been doing some digging for info on getting acpi working on my laptop under Linux. I have finally pieced together the information needed to correct my dsdt and get everything working just right. Now the question that comes to mind is: how do I get this information out to others? In my investigation of my problem (in this case as well as others) I ran across a number of sites that looked like they held a very useful, relevant piece of information, but turned out to be 404-not-founds or no longer even resolvable domains. The only sign they ever existed is the one or two lines that google shows in the search results (not cached). I want to avoid having this happen to information that I put online. It is generally considered bad form to post attachments to mailing lists, and in many cases, even if you do post an attachment, they do not get archived with the message. So this is probably not the way to go. So my question is, where can I put useful information, including files, where others have access to it, and I don't have to do the hosting myself? Any thoughts? -Mark Roach possibly a debian-archive||debian-solutions, where people can post their successful setups? iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: keyboard deleting of thread Moz Mail?
Kent West wrote: I just discovered that Mozilla Mail can be viewed in Thread Mode, which I like. However, In order to delete sub-messages in a thread I have to expand the thread and highlight each message. I did a web search and discovered that you can click on the little icon to the left of the thread parent which will highlight the entire thread, which can then be deleted, but I was wondering if anyone knew of any way to do this via the keyboard. I can hit the right-arrow to expand the thread, and then shift-down to select all the messages, but that could be a lot of keyclicks (depending on the number of postings in the thread); it'd be nice if I could select all the thread messages with just one keystroke. Thanks! Kent EditSelectThread ;-) Ctrl+Shft+A iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: APIC error [not so solved]
Hugh Saunders wrote: On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 10:26:15PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: remove apic with no apic option in lilo. have added append=no apic to lilo.conf, is that what you meant? will have a look at syslog next time i reboot and see if i still get apic errors. hugh append=noapic ;-) remember to re-run lilo after editing lilo.conf iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blackbox startup
Colin Keefe wrote: * iain d broadfoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-11-13 02:11 +]: k, installed blackbox, purged gnome2, how do i get bb to run bbkeys/time/date etc in the slit at login? wdm seems to skip my .xsession entirely... iain On the login screen, select default instead of a particular window manager and wdm should use your .xsession Colin cheers, i'm using xdm now anyway. may try wdm again sometime, but i don't really need any of the bonuses. thanks again, iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
argh! aptitude/dselect/apt-get dieing????
apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory same thing for dselect and aptitude. / any thoughts?? i'm scared to reboot in case it doesn't come back at all. (shivers horribly) i'm using testing/unstable, and had just ran an upgrade that failed on imagemagick. still got gimp1.3 and a few others to upgrade. iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: argh! aptitude/dselect/apt-get dieing????
nate wrote: iain d broadfoot said: apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory same thing for dselect and aptitude. / any thoughts?? find the package that has that file(usually packages.debian.org is best for this), manually download the deb and dpkg -i it, thats' what I would do at least nate http://packages.debian.org/testing/base/libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2.html worked fine, thanks!! iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
blackbox startup
k, installed blackbox, purged gnome2, how do i get bb to run bbkeys/time/date etc in the slit at login? wdm seems to skip my .xsession entirely... iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blackbox startup
iain d broadfoot wrote: k, installed blackbox, purged gnome2, how do i get bb to run bbkeys/time/date etc in the slit at login? wdm seems to skip my .xsession entirely... iain answer seems to be not to use wdm... xdm works fine. ;-) iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
phoenix + mozilla
i'm currently using mozilla for mail/news and phoenix for www. if phoenix is running when i try to start mail, i get an error about phoenix mail not being found. i know why this happens (i think - cos phoenix is mozilla, it takes any requests) but was wondering if there were any easy fixes. if not, what email/news client should i be using? iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: phoenix + mozilla
René Seindal wrote: On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 09:26:16AM +, iain d broadfoot wrote: i'm currently using mozilla for mail/news and phoenix for www. if phoenix is running when i try to start mail, i get an error about phoenix mail not being found. i know why this happens (i think - cos phoenix is mozilla, it takes any requests) but was wondering if there were any easy fixes. The mozilla wrapper script takes a --no-remote option. You can use that to launch mozilla mail even if you have phoenix running. Of course, if you have mozilla running, that'll give you a second instance of it. woo-hoo!!! thanks! i must have missed that option... cheers ren'e (not sure how to do e-acute(is that an acute, or something else?? french was long ago...)) iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: phoenix + mozilla
Hall Stevenson wrote: At 09:26 AM 11/5/2002 +, iain d broadfoot wrote: i'm currently using mozilla for mail/news and phoenix for www. if phoenix is running when i try to start mail, i get an error about phoenix mail not being found. i know why this happens (i think - cos phoenix is mozilla, it takes any requests) but was wondering if there were any easy fixes. Not an answer to your question, but if you're running Mozilla mail/news all the time, or at least at the same time as Phoenix, is there any advantage to Phoenix ?? I do use Phoenix myself *but* use mutt for mail... With Mozilla mail/news running, ALL of Mozilla is really running and therefore not saving you anything in regards to memory footprint. Hall the advantage is, it's nicer... ;-) i like phoenix. iain (yep, thats all...) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gnome2 + enlightenment
is there any way to make enlightenment block off part of the screen for the gnome-panel? yeah, i know i should be using a different combo, but i like e. iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome2 + enlightenment
Travis Crump wrote: iain d broadfoot wrote: is there any way to make enlightenment block off part of the screen for the gnome-panel? yeah, i know i should be using a different combo, but i like e. iain Just out of curiosity, does enlightenment otherwise work with Gnome 2? Is this a major irritant or something fairly minor(I don't quite understand what you mean)? Do multiple desktops work properly(each is allowed to have its own background and Alt+F[1-4] switches them)? Any other major issues? I have been reticent to upgrade to Gnome 2 since I have seen things to suggest that enlightenment never intends support Gnome 2 since e17 is supposed to be a desktop environment so I was curious as to your experience. seems fine so far, but i don't use multi/virtual desktops - i find it hard to keep things in my head... no real issues apart from the initial setup (the soln seems to be login/out acouple of times...) my q was whether e could be forced to allow the gnome taskbar to take up the top of the screen, apple-style. found a better way anyhoo - make a new panel, make it tiny, and set it to 'on top'. ;-) iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Needed: Hardware recommendateons for Wireless Networking
Thomas H. George,,, wrote: Thanks to help from the list I now have a one computer network with a dsl connection to the internet. There are two other computers in our house which could benefit from this connection. One suggestion was to run wires through the heating ducts but this does not seem feasable in our case. Before purchasing a DSL Gateway Router I would appreciate benefiting from the experience of other debian users. i've got a netgear MR314, and a cheap Belkin pc card in my laptop. the netgear is a doddle to admin. i haven't done anything more interesting with wireless yet, but i will... iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Needed: Hardware recommendateons for Wireless Networking
Richard Kimber wrote: On Sun, 03 Nov 2002 18:38:40 + iain d broadfoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've got a netgear MR314, and a cheap Belkin pc card in my laptop. the netgear is a doddle to admin. Yes, I have this router. Along with a D-Link USB adapter for one of the other machines. D-Link stuff seems pretty good, and a USB adapter (i.e. a cable + a gismo with an antenna) is better than a card, which seems to be more picky about picking up a signal - with something on the end of a cable, you can put it where there's a good signal. And it gives felxibility for the future. It all depends on the circumstances in which you're using it. - Richard. true, i'm gonna get external stuff for the other desktops once i can afford it. i like my dinky little card though... ;-) iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gnome2 applets
ok, this sucks. updgraded to gnome2 quite happily, everything is gorgeus except i can't use my applets: specifically, netleds and wavelan. they can't see a gnome panel. do they NEED a gnome1 panel, or should this be fakable? cheers, iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome2 applets
Jason Pepas wrote: specifically, netleds and wavelan. I would highly recommend netmon-applet as a replacement for netleds. -jason pepas $apt-cache search netmon-applet $ where do i find it? iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome2 applets
I repacked it (thanks Colin) and put it in my repository. Just add this to your sources.list: deb http://debian.pepas.com ./ then apt-cache search netmon-applet should show it. -jason pepas cool, thank you. works fine. does anyone know of any gnome2 wireless applets, or a way to use gnome1 applets? iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Segmentation faults in apropos
Paul Mackinney wrote: I've been running Sid, for some time, lately I've started getting segmentaion faults when I run apropos, as in the following: $ apropos hyphenation Segmentation fault $ When I run with the debug flag, I get a bunch of normal-looking messages about paths, ending with adding mandatory man directories adding /usr/man to manpath /usr/share/man is already in the manpath /usr/X11R6/man is already in the manpath /usr/local/man is already in the manpath add_nls_manpath(): processing /usr/local/man:/usr/share/man:/usr/X11R6/man:/usr/man adding /usr/local/man to manpathlist adding /usr/share/man to manpathlist adding /usr/X11R6/man to manpathlist adding /usr/man to manpathlist lower(hyphenation) = hyphenation path=/usr/local/man path=/usr/share/man free_hashtab: 11 entries, 11 (100%) unique Segmentation fault $ Any ideas on this? Thanks, PM getting it too, seems to be mainly when it can't find a page. not always though, and i haven't quite figured out the pattern yet. iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Desktop launchs recent programs when logging in
Mariano Kamp wrote: Hi, using Gnome with woody it always launches a couple of programs I recently used (like xemacs, xterm etc.). It also does launch more instances every time I login. I greped through all directories starting with a dot for xterm and xemacs, but haven't found anything. Where is stored what I recently launched and what is the proper way to deal with it? Instead of logging out I do usually su to root and use halt to shutdown the system. Is this part of the problem? Mariano yep, that is almost definelttetilty the problem. check your gnome config for the session settings, close everything, and hit save session now. then switch off auto save session, and do a real logout. best not to run halt (i believe), logout from X and go to a console, then login as root and run shutdown -h now, or poweroff (if that works) hope i'm right, iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dual-booting with debian
On Sun, 2002-10-27 at 14:24, Joyce, Matthew wrote: I have done this on several machines. By far the easiest is to erase everything from the machine and start from scratch. This is a good aproach except when all you have is a recovery disk. I don't kow how many..but.. all the laptops I looked at during a recent purchase came only with a recovery disk. These recovery disks will only install on the original equipment takes over the whole hard drive. It is either shrink or format install Debian, paying the MS tax :( THIS WORKS (for XP at least): install debian first! leave a partition for windows to go on, then shove in the recovery cd. it'll see the partition as the whole disk, it usually won't even be aware of the linux bits, or that it doesn't have the whole drive to itself. xp can be lilo'ed quite happily, if not, there's a tool to add linux to the boot menu somewhere... google should find it easily. iain (hopefully) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kernel config from kernel_image
arse. i backed up my kernel_image.deb, and my ~, but i forgot about my kernel config file... :( is there ANY way to get it from the image I have? it'd really really suck if i had to go through all the guesswork again. will hunt alone for now... ;-) love, iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[solved]Re: kernel config from kernel_image
iain d broadfoot wrote: arse. i backed up my kernel_image.deb, and my ~, but i forgot about my kernel config file... :( is there ANY way to get it from the image I have? it'd really really suck if i had to go through all the guesswork again. will hunt alone for now... ;-) love, iain dpkg-query -L kernel-image-2.4.19 (list all files owned by package) . .. /boot/config-2.4.19 .. . ;-) i love debian... iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: keeping a kernel
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On Tuesday 22 October 2002 17:48, iain d broadfoot wrote: i have some .deb kernel images, can i back them up and then just dpkg -i them after a big reinstall? thanks, iain why not (-: The kernel deb is not tied to any other piece of the system except maybe the support programs (modutils) or something like pcmcia/alsa/etc. cool. i just wanted to check there was nothing hideously wrong with doing it. cheers sean, iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
adding nodes to a network
I have a router with two machina wired in, and my laptop on wireless. what kinda stuff do i need to do with dhcpd on the laptop to connect a machine (wired) to the laptop and have it as part of the bigger network? or can i skip dhcp and just iptables it? i've done a fair bit of googling, so a quick package name or search term that'll get me what i need would be lovely. cheers guys, iain ps: box1--router--box2 / / laptop (wireless)--box3 box1, box2 and laptop are dhcping from the router. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Creative Nomad jukebox
Gytis wrote: hi everyone Anyone got experience with Creative Nomad jukebox ( 6gb)? If someone go it working , please share your thoughts :) My system is woody 3.0 with 2.4.19 kernel :) thanx libnjb.sourceforge.net download, compile, follow instructions. also grab GNOMAD from the same page, it works. ;-) you'll need to recompile kernel with some usb stuff setup, mainly mass storage and usbdevfs... think that's all though. most of rest is obvious from the libnjb page i think... iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tar.gz to debian packages
Actually, there's an easier way: apt-get checkinstall checkinstall is run as root after you've done your ./configure and make, and in place of the make install command. It creates a .deb file and also installs it for you. Be sure to read the man page for it -- there's a lot of options to help you customize the package. --Matthew $apt-get install checkinstall ;-) love, iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
