Installing XFCE 4.14 on Buster?
I'm running Buster, pretty much a stock install, with XFCE. I'd like to upgrade XFCE to 4.14 (which was released last month), which is in unstable, mainly to take advantage of what is said to be improved HiDPI support in this version--I'm about to get a pair of 4K monitors (yes, my video card can handle it). What is the safest, preferably automated, way to perform this? I don't want to switch my entire system to unstable.
Re: Re: Stretch, pulseaudio and bluetooth headphones
Dear Mark, You asked if anyone else had seen "this", which was only getting mono output; I am not having exactly "that" but another problem, which is that the bluetooth device manager doesn't remember that I want the a2dp sink and not the hsp/hfp sink --- which wouldn't be a problem if hsp/hfp didn't hang any process trying to sink sound through it. --Jesse
Re: don't save me from myself!
"This indicates a broken system, not a broken distribution." Actually, I would partially disagree. A system has many lines of development (subsystems) which interact so as to compose a system that just works: two examples of such subsystems might include an automated update system and a manual administrative system. However, when all of these subsystems themselves depend on one and only one component, BLAH, then the system as a whole is super-critical. That’s because none of the subsystems, to include those able to effectuate repair and recovery, will work if the single component BLAH which underlies them all happens to break. Such a system is an accident waiting to happen. When the accident does happen, it takes the operational form of Catch-22s. An example of one of these catch-22s is that you you can’t update your way out of having a bad, broken BLAH to having a good, fixed BLAH when BLAH s required for all updates to happen to begin with. The biggest Catch-22 is when ROOT becomes inaccessible, because it, too, depends on the self-same, broken component BLAH: you can’t fix BLAH if root is inaccessible and BLAH is the very reason that root is inaccessable. The solution is not to fix the one super-critical component BLAH and only that. That only achieves mission stability. The system needs to have redundancy in order to achieve overall, system stability. It needs more redundent BLAHS, more species to the ecosystem, ones which do not exhibit mutual dependencies, mutual recursions or over-dependence on single, super-critical components. In this case, the system then can at least be repaired and recovered in-house, and using the remaining and working subsystems, rather than having to jailbreak into it and hack it. A fully-blown system, with 45,000 files, is a monster to hack. There aren’t that many gurus. And I am not one of them. ————— Jesse Johnson puppetis...@gmail.com
Re: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
I do not have on any youtube video's and hulu has quit working altogether, telling me to try clearing the cache wich I have done. I have also tried installing the latest version of adobe and has not worked. On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 7:56 AM, Mail Delivery System < mailer-dae...@mdfmta002.tch.inty.net> wrote: > This is the mail system at host mdfmta002.tch.inty.net. > > I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not > be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. > > For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. > > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can > delete your own text from the attached returned message. > >The mail system > > <administra...@cityscape.demon.co.uk>: host > esmtp.demonmail.co.uk[91.221.168.149] said: 550 5.7.1 Unable to relay > (in > reply to RCPT TO command) > > Final-Recipient: rfc822; administra...@cityscape.demon.co.uk > Original-Recipient: rfc822;administra...@cityscape.demon.co.uk > Action: failed > Status: 5.7.1 > Remote-MTA: dns; esmtp.demonmail.co.uk > Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 Unable to relay > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Jesse Stephen <jessedieb...@gmail.com> > To: Brian <a...@cityscape.co.uk> > Cc: > Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:55:59 -0400 > Subject: Re: No sound on youtube > I do not have sound on any youtube video's and hulu has quit showing > altogether, I have tried downloading adobe be flash player but that has not > done anything. > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Brian <a...@cityscape.co.uk> wrote: > >> On Wed 20 Jul 2016 at 14:42:06 -0400, Jesse Stephen wrote: >> >> > I seem to have no sound on youtube for some reason. >> >> We can swap experiences; I do have sound. >> >> Like you, I have no intention of giving any detail, so both of us have >> nothing to contribute. >> >> > >
No sound on youtube
I seem to have no sound on youtube for some reason.
Re: synaptic package manager error
I am using GNOME. I have a problem with no sound on you tube I cant run updates And I can not download the Google talk plug-in because it says the package updater is open On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Brian <a...@cityscape.co.uk> wrote: > On Tue 19 Jul 2016 at 17:35:51 -0400, Jesse Stephen wrote: > > > I'm getting an error message when I run ther synaptic package manager > that > > I have to manually run the dpkg-- configure to correct the problem. This > is > > not something I no how to do, I am very green at this. > > It is almost impossible to advise on this when the command to run has to > be guessed and what was being done at the time is not mentioned. I do > not use synaptic but the first thing to do is find out how to display a > terminal in whatever environment you are using (GNOME?). > > At the prompt type > > dpkg --configure -a > > and press the ENTER key. What you do next depends on what you were doing > in the first place. > >
synaptic package manager error
I'm getting an error message when I run ther synaptic package manager that I have to manually run the dpkg-- configure to correct the problem. This is not something I no how to do, I am very green at this.
no sound
I don't seem to have sound on mazzila. It works playing a dvd but not on you tube
Chromecast
is there away to put chromecast on my diebian pc?
Rocksmith?
is there a way to get rocksmith on steam to work on diebian?
point of information re Debian 8, gnome, and fglrx
The release notes for debian 8, released in April of 2015, say https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#gnome-3d > ## 5.11. The GNOME desktop does not work with the AMD proprietary FGLRX driver > > Unlike other OpenGL drivers, the AMD FGLRX driver for Radeon adapters does > not support the EGL interface. [...] On the other hand, AMD seem to have, at least, a thing which purports to support EGL, http://developer.amd.com/tools-and-sdks/graphics-development/amd-opengl-es-sdk/ , at least since August of 2015; the release notes for version 15.9 of their One Driver to Run Them All also mention http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDCatalyst15-9LINReleaseNotes.aspx > ## Resolved Issues: >[...] > * [424255] AMD Catalyst™ Installer removing EGL links resulting in > Xserver/Xorg load failure Now, I don't know if the debian 8 release notes vs. the AMD documentation are even addressing the same thing or orthogonal things, but I can't find mention of the status of this issue in recenter debian mailing lists; * is it still a problem? * Has anyone got them playing nice again? (and if so, can stable/amd64/release-notes be ammended to reflect it?) Cheers!
Controlling power settings for external USB disk drives using sdparm
Hi everyone I wanted to post, for posterity, what I recently learned while playing with my new external USB3 disk drive. I needed to control the power settings for this drive. I noticed that it was never ever spinning down, so I wanted to be able to either power in up/down on command, or have it automatically spin down after a period of inactivity. In the end, I was able to do both. My device is a Seagate ST4000DM000. This should probably work for similar Seagate enclosures, like the STEB2000100, STEB3000100, and STEB5000100. I wasn't able to get hdparm to work with my device at all, but that should probably be your first step. See if hdparm -i works, then do a -I, then try setting the spin-down with -S. I had to use the sdparm tool instead, and the notes here reflect what worked for me. WARNING: Use the /dev/disk/by-id path for USB devices, not letter-device path like the sdb example I used below. # Show your disks and devices udisksctl status udisksctl info -b /dev/sdb # Interogate the device to collect info: sudo sdparm --flexible -6 -l -i /dev/sdb sudo sdparm --flexible -6 -l -i -a /dev/sdb # Show all of the parameters/settings: sudo sdparm --flexible -6 -l -a /dev/sdb # Immediately start and stop the disk: sudo sdparm --readonly --command=stop /dev/sdb sudo sdparm --command=start /dev/sdb # Per the hdparm man page, It may be necessary to mark the disk as offline with: # sudo bash -c 'echo offline /sys/block/sdb/device/state' # Normalize with: # sudo bash -c 'echo running /sys/block/sdb/device/state' # Get the auto-spindown parameter current settings: sudo sdparm --flexible -6 -l --get SCT /dev/sdb sudo sdparm --flexible -6 -l --get STANDBY /dev/sdb # SCT = spindown timer in 100 miliseconds. # NOTE: The sdparm man page says SCT is measured in 100ms. but for my Seagate drive, it's actually 1=50ms. # STANDBY = the spindown timer on/off switch. 0=off (never spin down), 1=on (spin down to timer) # These were my default values on my ST4000DM000: # STANDBY 0 [cha: y, def: 1, sav: 1] # SCT 4294967286 [cha: y, def:9000, sav:9000] # This means the device NEVER spins down by default. # Set the auto-spindown parameters to spin down after 15 minutes of inactivity (assuming SCT=50ms instead of 100ms): sudo sdparm --flexible -6 -l --set SCT=18000 /dev/sdb sudo sdparm --flexible -6 -l --set STANDBY=1 /dev/sdb # NOTE: this these settings are lost on reboot. # Set the auto-spindown parameters to spin down after 15 minutes of inactivity (assuming SCT=50ms instead of 100ms): sudo sdparm --flexible -6 -l --save --set SCT=18000 /dev/sdb sudo sdparm --flexible -6 -l --save --set STANDBY=1 /dev/sdb # NOTE: Values will be saved to the device and *should* be retained between reboots and host moves. # NOTE: My Seagate ST4000DM000 failed to save settings. Seagate sucks. Whatever. Finally, I put this in my /etc/rc.local to set on boot: sdparm --flexible -6 -l --set SCT=18000 --set STANDBY=1 /dev/sdb I hope this helps someone. The HOWTOs and examples I found while searching the internet didn't really help me that much. I had to do a lot of experimenting before I discovered that this device would not really talk to me without --flexible -6 being set, and that --readonly was required with the stop command (or it just spun right back up). If you have any feedback or corrections, let me know! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c08f71.1070...@opendreams.net
Re: Bizarre issue: USB 3 disconnecting and dying
Hey David, did you ever get this figured out? Did you ever inspect the device parameters via sdparm or hdparm? I have *heard* of some Seagate devices disappearing when they go into suspend, but your problem doesn't sound like this issue since it happens in the middle of writing. Still, I thought I'd mention it. My experience with hdparm on USB devices isn't good, but it works for some people. hdparm -I that thing. For sdparm, do this: sudo sdparm --flexible -6 -l -a /dev/sdb You might be able/need to remove --flexible and -6. Those are compatibility options that some of my devices need. Good luck to you! On 7/22/15 16:20, David Fuchs wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Håkon Alstadheim ha...@alstadheim.priv.no mailto:ha...@alstadheim.priv.no wrote: How long are your USB-cables? What kind of power supply do you have, and what else is drawing power? The USB cable the drive is currently on is fairly short - about 80cm if I had to guess. The drive has its own wall-wart specced at 2A (12V). There's nothing plugged into the USB ports that would draw power (the only other device plugged in is a UPS). I just went from a PSU specced at 5x the needed sustained power to 10x . Got a slight but definite improvement in USB stability. Yes, my system is drawing ~ 150w from a 1200w supply. Externally powered hubs were no help. 5v is specced at 30amps max. I still get drop-outs , very rarely reqiuring hard boot now, except if I try the multi-media-keys on my back-lit usb2.0 keyboard. The host is powered by a 300W Fortron SFX PSU, which should be about 5-6x of actual power draw. It's plugged into the UPS so power should be fairly stable... but you do bring up a good point, the PSU is one element I hadn't considered. Might try to swap that out, too, when I get a chance. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org mailto:debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org mailto:listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/fa2b0565-1df4-4fbc-b280-8866b2083...@alstadheim.priv.no -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c0814b.4090...@opendreams.net
Re: Controlling power settings for external USB disk drives using sdparm
Update to this: In the message below, I said that setting SCT=18000 would be a 15 minute spindown, but this does not appear to be correct. I suspect this parameter is like the hdparm -S argument, which is non-linear. I have confirmed that SCT=1200 is 1-minute, and SCT=3000 is 5-minutes. I tested with SCT=9000 but about two hours later the drive is still spinning. If you want a spindown time longer than 5-minutes, you'll have to figure it out yourself, because I have no idea. Additionally, I wrote the following compound --set command below: sdparm --flexible -6 -l --set SCT=18000 --set STANDBY=1 /dev/sdb This doesn't appear to work right, even though the man page says it's possible and there are no errors. If you issue the set commands independently though, it works: sdparm --flexible -6 -l --set SCT=18000 /dev/sdb sdparm --flexible -6 -l --set STANDBY=1 /dev/sdb Notes updated with corrections: # Show your disks and devices udisksctl status udisksctl info -b /dev/sdb # Interogate the device to collect info: sudo sdparm --flexible -6 -l -i /dev/sdb sudo sdparm --flexible -6 -l -i -a /dev/sdb # Show all of the parameters/settings: sudo sdparm --flexible -6 -l -a /dev/sdb # Immediately start and stop the disk: sudo sdparm --readonly --command=stop /dev/sdb sudo sdparm --command=start /dev/sdb # Per the hdparm man page, It may be necessary to mark the disk as offline with: # sudo bash -c 'echo offline /sys/block/sdb/device/state' # Normalize with: # sudo bash -c 'echo running /sys/block/sdb/device/state' # Get the auto-spindown parameter current settings: sudo sdparm --flexible -6 -l --get SCT /dev/sdb sudo sdparm --flexible -6 -l --get STANDBY /dev/sdb # SCT = spindown timer in 100 miliseconds. # NOTE: The sdparm man page says SCT is measured in 100ms. but for my Seagate drive, it varies. # STANDBY = the spindown timer on/off switch. 0=off (never spin down), 1=on (spin down to timer) # These were my default values on my ST4000DM000: # STANDBY 0 [cha: y, def: 1, sav: 1] # SCT 4294967286 [cha: y, def:9000, sav:9000] # This means the device NEVER spins down by default. # Set the auto-spindown parameters to spin down after 5 minutes of inactivity: sudo sdparm --flexible -6 -l --set SCT=3000 /dev/sdb sudo sdparm --flexible -6 -l --set STANDBY=1 /dev/sdb # NOTE: this these settings are lost on reboot. # Set and save the auto-spindown parameters to spin down after 5 minutes of inactivity: sudo sdparm --flexible -6 -l --save --set SCT=3000 /dev/sdb sudo sdparm --flexible -6 -l --save --set STANDBY=1 /dev/sdb # NOTE: Values will be saved to the device and *should* be retained between reboots and host moves. # NOTE: My Seagate ST4000DM000 failed to save settings. Not all drives will support this. On 8/4/15 3:09, Jesse Molina wrote: Hi everyone I wanted to post, for posterity, what I recently learned while playing with my new external USB3 disk drive. I needed to control the power settings for this drive. I noticed that it was never ever spinning down, so I wanted to be able to either power in up/down on command, or have it automatically spin down after a period of inactivity. In the end, I was able to do both. My device is a Seagate ST4000DM000. This should probably work for similar Seagate enclosures, like the STEB2000100, STEB3000100, and STEB5000100. I wasn't able to get hdparm to work with my device at all, but that should probably be your first step. See if hdparm -i works, then do a -I, then try setting the spin-down with -S. I had to use the sdparm tool instead, and the notes here reflect what worked for me. WARNING: Use the /dev/disk/by-id path for USB devices, not letter-device path like the sdb example I used below. # Show your disks and devices udisksctl status udisksctl info -b /dev/sdb # Interogate the device to collect info: sudo sdparm --flexible -6 -l -i /dev/sdb sudo sdparm --flexible -6 -l -i -a /dev/sdb # Show all of the parameters/settings: sudo sdparm --flexible -6 -l -a /dev/sdb # Immediately start and stop the disk: sudo sdparm --readonly --command=stop /dev/sdb sudo sdparm --command=start /dev/sdb # Per the hdparm man page, It may be necessary to mark the disk as offline with: # sudo bash -c 'echo offline /sys/block/sdb/device/state' # Normalize with: # sudo bash -c 'echo running /sys/block/sdb/device/state' # Get the auto-spindown parameter current settings: sudo sdparm --flexible -6 -l --get SCT /dev/sdb sudo sdparm --flexible -6 -l --get STANDBY /dev/sdb # SCT = spindown timer in 100 miliseconds. # NOTE: The sdparm man page says SCT is measured
Re: reboot and poweroff fails on Zotac ZBOX Nano CI320
I have resolved my problem. I will document here to help out anyone else who has this issue in the future. This is a Zotac ZBOX Nano CI320 (ZBOX-CI320NANO). My BIOS version is B219P 026 x64 with a date of 05/19/2015. That is current as I write this. I also saw this problem with previous versions of BIOS. The root cause of the problem was that I set the Boot Mode to Legacy Only and OS Selection to Windows 7. Instead, set it to Windows 8.X. I saw the following problems when the OS Selection was Windows 7: Reboots, poweroff, suspend, and hibernate all hung. Installation of Debian and Ubuntu hangs on Running dpkg under Select and install software. When set to Windows 8.X, The system reboots Linux as expected. Be sure to update the BIOS if you have not already. I used FreeDOS on a USB flash drive made with unetbootin. Copy the firmware .zip files onto the root of the flash drive. Boot into FreeDOS and load no drivers (Safe Mode). Type cd C: and then you should see the files there. Run the batch.bat file and that should update the firmware. There is also a USB hub firmware upgrade available for this system, but I wouldn't bother since it requires Windows 7 to install, and I had a lot of problems doing it. Beware that these BayTrail-M systems (Intel NUC, Gigabyte BRIX, HP Stream, Asus ChromeBox, Asus Vivo, and a huge number of laptops) have a large number of reported problems with USB also causing problems: About the reboot hang issue with EHCI driver on the Baytrail platform http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-usb/msg112624.html [SOLVED] Random hang/freze on reboot/shutdown/suspend, only under Arch https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=192821 On 6/25/15 2:42, Jesse Molina wrote: Hi all I have a new Zotac ZBOX Nano CI320. It's a mini-PC based on an Intel Celeron N2930 (Bay Trail). This has been a very problematic system. I blame my troubles on the less-than-quality Zotac (AMI) BIOS. My current problem is that the system will not reboot or poweroff correctly. It just hangs. I have upgraded the BIOS to the current version, which fixed a lot of other issues, but not this one. I've confirmed this bad reboot/poweroff behavior on Debian 8.1 and the current unstable. One thing to note is that I was having some intermittent success adding the kernel argument reboot=bios on Debian 8.1, but now that I've upgraded to unstable, it's not working any more. I need to do more testing to verify what works and what doesn't, but everything is mostly not-working. I also confirmed this bad behavior with the current Fedora release. Interestingly, the current Linux Mint seems to reboot and poweroff normally: http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=172 Other than testing various linux reboot= arguments, what other things should I look into? For permanent application, that reboot= would go into /etc/default/grub, right? Any other advice before I bug this? Thanks for reading. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558e0b97.8020...@opendreams.net
reboot and poweroff fails on Zotac ZBOX Nano CI320
Hi all I have a new Zotac ZBOX Nano CI320. It's a mini-PC based on an Intel Celeron N2930 (Bay Trail). This has been a very problematic system. I blame my troubles on the less-than-quality Zotac (AMI) BIOS. My current problem is that the system will not reboot or poweroff correctly. It just hangs. I have upgraded the BIOS to the current version, which fixed a lot of other issues, but not this one. I've confirmed this bad reboot/poweroff behavior on Debian 8.1 and the current unstable. One thing to note is that I was having some intermittent success adding the kernel argument reboot=bios on Debian 8.1, but now that I've upgraded to unstable, it's not working any more. I need to do more testing to verify what works and what doesn't, but everything is mostly not-working. I also confirmed this bad behavior with the current Fedora release. Interestingly, the current Linux Mint seems to reboot and poweroff normally: http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=172 Other than testing various linux reboot= arguments, what other things should I look into? For permanent application, that reboot= would go into /etc/default/grub, right? Any other advice before I bug this? Thanks for reading. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558bcd20.1050...@opendreams.net
Re: linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 unbootable: /dev/disk/by-uuid not created
As previously noted, this was a bug in mdadm and has already been fixed in the current version. Just update your mdadm package and then re-build your initramfs file with the update-initramfs command. Be sure to read the manpage for that command. Probably update-initramfs -u alone will fix your problem. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=726237 This problem never had anything to do with the linux-image package. It was actually just a bad mdadm udev rule file. It just happened to me when I updated my kernel, since it generated a new initramfs file to go along with it. On 10/17/13 7:54 AM, Jogi Hofmüller wrote: Dear all, We ran into the same (or a similar) problem yesterday and could not fix it until now. The machine in question was setup using wheezy and then upgraded to jessie. Since the only kernel 3.2 will boot, anything else fails. The setup is as follows: * one raid10 * lvm lvs for / /boot /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf is present in the initramfs. As reported by others the boot process drops into initramfs shell complaining about not finding /dev/vg0/rootfs. The array is never assembled, hence no pv, vg, lv ... We tried linux-image-3.10-2-amd64 and linux-image-3.10-3-amd64. mdadm is 3.2.5-5. Cheers! PS: Please include my address in your reply since I am not subscribed to the list. Thanx. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5260f2d1.1010...@opendreams.net
Re: Question for you network/DNS/Apache gurus;
Sounds like your Apache config may not be correct. You should post the relavant portion. You need to elaborate on It opens the startup page but will do nothing else.. What is a startup page? Nobody but you knows what this means. On 10/15/13 11:50 AM, John W. Foster wrote: I have a web site established on a remote hosted VPS server system. I have full root access. I use Debian linux on my personal system (wheezy) on the remotely hosted site (squeeze). I use Godaddy as my domain registrar. I have the domain for the remotely hosted VPS site set up at Godaddy. I have the exact IP address set up there to forward to the VPS site with masking. I have a tarball based mediawiki set up on the VPS site in /var/www/ There are no links in /var/www/ to the site, the opening page is index.php is in this directory. I simply use the /sites-enabled/default in apache2 to send web queries to the VPS site. Up to here all seems to work OK. Here is the issue. When I try to access the mediawiki for configuration, using http://my.mediawiki.net (example) the site will not work as it should. It opens the startup page but will do nothing else. When I access the site with http:// 123.123.123.123 (example numerical IP address) the VPS site allows the mediawiki to run the configuration setup as it should. This is my first attempt to manage a remote site so I really need advice. Any Tips are appreciated BTW I did ask these questions on the Mediawiki site, but alas no help there. john -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/525da383.3020...@opendreams.net
Re: linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 unbootable: /dev/disk/by-uuid not created
This is confimed bug # 726237. It's actually mdadm. Bad udev rule file. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=726237 On 10/12/13 2:40 AM, Jesse Molina wrote: Hi I have a Debian unstable host which successfully boots from the linux-image-3.10-1-amd64 kernel package. However, I recently installed the linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 kernel package, and it is unbootable. When I boot from the linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 package kernel, the boot fails and drops me into the initramfs busybox. The messge Gave up waiting for the root device. appears, along with ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/bla-bla-bla-my-id-here does not exist.. The problem appears to be that udev is not creating /dev/disk/by-uuid/* and similar objects. The only directory being created in /dev/disk is by-id. Note that the mdadm arrays are being successfully assembled and I can see them if I cat /proc/mdstat. the root= argument in grub is a UUID of a mdadm RAID1 array. This host's boot part is a RAID1, and the root part is a RAID5. This is standard PC desktop hardware with four disk drives upon which the md RAIDs are built. The host has been dist-upgraded as of this time. Advice appreciated. Otherwise, I'll file a bug on it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/525bd4e2.4030...@opendreams.net
Re: linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 unbootable: /dev/disk/by-uuid not created
Okay, this is helpful. Unfortunately, I don't know a lot about Debian's initramfs scripts, and I'm fairly ignorant of udev beyond it's basic functions and rule files. So, advice on basic troubleshooting of udev would be helpful to me. I am going to go play with this system here shortly, so hopefully I can discover a little bit more which will be helpful to us. On 10/12/13 5:12 PM, Tom H wrote: Since the by-id links are being created, I assume that the answer to the following question will be yes but just in case: does lib/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules exist in the initramfs? Can you add a line to scripts/local to retrigger the udevadm creation of the by-uuid links? I don't know the deleted syntax offhand, sorry. (udevadm trigger ...) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/525a44a4.2000...@opendreams.net
Re: linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 unbootable: /dev/disk/by-uuid not created
I did the following today: Indeed, the /lib/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules file does exist in the initramfs. I tried udevadm control --reload-rules, but there was no output that I can use. I also think I tried it with --debug, and I saw some info, but nothing helpful. I decided to try to rebuild my 3.10-1 initramfs, to see if the newly build package would cause the same problems, and indeed it did. I have the old working initramfs, and now a broken one which gives the same behavior as the 3.10-3 version. So, it's not the kernel so much as it's something else being packaged on the initramfs. I'm thinking this is a udev problem thus far, but I really don't know that for certain yet. I'll decompress the initramfs files tomorrow and look at the differences between them. Unfortunately the host in question is important to me, and at a remote location, so I can't play with it right now. I will look into setting up a test system though and see if I can duplicate the problem locally. On 10/12/13 11:58 PM, Jesse Molina wrote: Okay, this is helpful. Unfortunately, I don't know a lot about Debian's initramfs scripts, and I'm fairly ignorant of udev beyond it's basic functions and rule files. So, advice on basic troubleshooting of udev would be helpful to me. I am going to go play with this system here shortly, so hopefully I can discover a little bit more which will be helpful to us. On 10/12/13 5:12 PM, Tom H wrote: Since the by-id links are being created, I assume that the answer to the following question will be yes but just in case: does lib/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules exist in the initramfs? Can you add a line to scripts/local to retrigger the udevadm creation of the by-uuid links? I don't know the deleted syntax offhand, sorry. (udevadm trigger ...) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/525a76e0.3010...@opendreams.net
linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 unbootable: /dev/disk/by-uuid not created
Hi I have a Debian unstable host which successfully boots from the linux-image-3.10-1-amd64 kernel package. However, I recently installed the linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 kernel package, and it is unbootable. When I boot from the linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 package kernel, the boot fails and drops me into the initramfs busybox. The messge Gave up waiting for the root device. appears, along with ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/bla-bla-bla-my-id-here does not exist.. The problem appears to be that udev is not creating /dev/disk/by-uuid/* and similar objects. The only directory being created in /dev/disk is by-id. Note that the mdadm arrays are being successfully assembled and I can see them if I cat /proc/mdstat. the root= argument in grub is a UUID of a mdadm RAID1 array. This host's boot part is a RAID1, and the root part is a RAID5. This is standard PC desktop hardware with four disk drives upon which the md RAIDs are built. The host has been dist-upgraded as of this time. Advice appreciated. Otherwise, I'll file a bug on it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52591922.7040...@opendreams.net
Re: linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 unbootable: /dev/disk/by-uuid not created
That's a good idea, but this system already had a rootdelay=5 configured, and I even raised it to 15 during testing with no effect upon the situation. I have had problems on a different host using md RAID5 as it's boot array, which requires a rootdelay on the 3.8 and 3.10 kernels. There are some bugs out there with my name on them regarding this. Reference bugs: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=718533 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=678696 And this is the long-term solution which needs to be implemented: https://wiki.debian.org/InitramfsEventBased Anyway, the above doesn't seem to be the problem. As I said before, the md RAIDs are being assembled. udev, or something else, is failing to properly create the device nodes. On 10/12/13 8:22 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Jesse Molina wrote: Hi I have a Debian unstable host which successfully boots from the linux-image-3.10-1-amd64 kernel package. However, I recently installed the linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 kernel package, and it is unbootable. When I boot from the linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 package kernel, the boot fails and drops me into the initramfs busybox. The messge Gave up waiting for the root device. appears, along with ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/bla-bla-bla-my-id-here does not exist.. The problem appears to be that udev is not creating /dev/disk/by-uuid/* and similar objects. The only directory being created in /dev/disk is by-id. Note that the mdadm arrays are being successfully assembled and I can see them if I cat /proc/mdstat. the root= argument in grub is a UUID of a mdadm RAID1 array. This host's boot part is a RAID1, and the root part is a RAID5. This is standard PC desktop hardware with four disk drives upon which the md RAIDs are built. The host has been dist-upgraded as of this time. Advice appreciated. Otherwise, I'll file a bug on it. try 'rootdelay=5' (w/o quotes) as bootparam. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5259a33b.8070...@opendreams.net
Re: linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 unbootable: /dev/disk/by-uuid not created
Nope. No changes since the original system creation. Thanks for trying though. On 10/12/13 7:18 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Jesse Molina wrote: As I said before, the md RAIDs are being assembled. udev, or something else, is failing to properly create the device nodes. A shot in the dark but... Have you added a new md device recently but forgotten to update the /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf file? The initrd creation will only have the information about it if it is in that file. If the root file system depends upon it then it won't be able to boot in that case. This is usually when the root file system is on LVM and LVM includes several physical volumes in the volume group and a new md is added to the volume group. As I said, a shot in the dark. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/525a22be.8030...@opendreams.net
Re: Fwd: (resolved) esmtp-run delivers mail from shell, but not from nagios
Alright, I found a solution myself as a suggestion at the end of the following page: http://exchange.nagios.org/directory/Plugins/Others/Check_Svn/details and that was to use the concatenator instead of a semicolon. Since export command cannot fail under normal circumstances, the behavior devolves into being identical to semicolon, but nagios command interpreter won't strip it. export HOME=/var/lib/nagios rest of sendmail command Thanks guys, happy hearts n hooves. :P - - Jesse Thompson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CA+wh7KjGS6z4k8qU0vaYR0+fKnBe=7z+ug6p2qvm-okd6s0...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Fwd: esmtp-run delivers mail from shell, but not from nagios
Not entirely sure how esmtp-run works in conjunction with executing sendmail Well it's a drop-in sendmail replacement, so we're actually invoking esmtp-run directly which is masquerading as sendmail. I know, for a fact, that NRPE does not set $HOME, and that causes problems for mysql when it tries to find its .my.cnf file. I see, yea this is nagios core and not the NRPE component, but I do see the same behavior when testing for that. Process seems to drop privileges from root to nagios, and then while whoami returns nagios the $USER and $HOME variables haven't changed from root. I'm guessing this might be killing esmtp-run if it's looking for .esmtprc files in user's home dir, and getting permission denied. :O Alright, so I ought be able to work around this if I can force the $HOME env variable to change while specifying my command. This is hard to keyword search, so: does anyone know how to set an environment variable and then run a command with that change active without using a semicolon? I've tried: env HOME=/var/lib/nagios echo $HOME /tmp/test but even in the shell that does nothing. (leaving me confused what env command is even supposed to do? xD) I've tried: export HOME=/var/lib/nagios; echo $HOME /tmp/test which works from shell (and permanently kinks the variable in that shell instance, lol, but for nagios that should be harmless enough) but Nagios' macro expansion algorithm just ignores everything after the semicolon. D: And it just feels wrong having to set a variable and run a command in two pieces like that anyway; I suspect there must be a one-shot solution similar to the env thing I tried above except that it would actually work. ;3 - - Jesse -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ca+wh7kg8o-o3fwmonpqmtz3hh8d19vxkujsfoymnuft-mar...@mail.gmail.com
Fwd: esmtp-run delivers mail from shell, but not from nagios
I hope this is the right place to ask this question; #debian irc directed me here since esmtp-run doesn't appear to have it's own list. I'm fairly sure I have isolated this problem as being related to esmtp-run and not directly related to nagios. Nagios takes a string and executes that via popen in order to send email notifications, and can execute any other arbitrary commands I try but not esmtp-run's simple email sender. Futhermore I've used nagios' debug log to confirm the command runs as expected, using the expected string (after macro expansions, etc) and that a zero return value is rendered from esmtp-run indicating no errors: yet no delivery happens either. The test command I am using is: /bin/echo testing | /usr/lib/sendmail -f m...@email.com m...@email.com I've confirmed that the nagios daemon attempts to run this command via user nagios, and I can run that exact string from shell when su - nagios to impersonate that user, and receive the remotely delivered email, but when run through the daemon no action is taken that I can detect. I do not have mda= configured, since I want no local delivery, remote only. I can see nothing in /var/syslog, and know of no other logging facility esmtp-run might want to use. I have added a preconnect line to emulate logging, and that line appears to function when I invoke from shell and not to function when invoked from nagios. I have checked /var/mail/ and see no new activity, in case procmail were being somehow invoked and dumping messages there. Here is my /etc/esmtprc: hostname=email.email.com:25 preconnect='/bin/date /tmp/test2' So I don't know if this is related to the daemon somehow having incompatible environment variables, or what could be different about these methods of invocation or what to test next save tearing apart the source code and gdbing everything that moves. If there are any esmtp-run experts out there, or just reliable-send-only-MUA-that-plays-nice-with-nagios experts, I could use some pointers. :) Thanks guys! - - Jesse -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CA+wh7Kjf39P4q7j8hHHEiw4ts+skrhed51WAj_57R-+=S=+e...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Networking Q concerning /etc/network/interfaces
the interfaces file is really only going to come into pay during bootup, or when using eg ifup/ifdown scripts. You indicated that you may have configured the interfaces by hand via ifconfig; if so those changes will not survive a reboot. How long since your last reboot? If it's safe to do on this machine, I would try to reboot it and see if it comes up with the settings in your interface file this time. Also, in case this is a remote host or a production machine be prepared to intervene with direct terminal access on the off chance it stubbornly refuses to be connectable on bootup. If the anomaly survives a reboot, I would next use the following command to see what if any software or scripts are configured to muss around with the interfaces: grep -r 'eth[01]' /etc - - Jesse -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CA+wh7Kgn98in67OeLX4JAhDd0djktpxQ5c_d+hzRJyh=4cs...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Networking Q concerning /etc/net
I was actually only speaking of 192.168.1.54 on eth0... but probably didn't make it clear. There's a lot of things which aren't clear to me. Let's recap the following for clarity: You mention there are two, wired nics in your box, only one is wired up (I think ifconfig tells you if an interface has a layer 1 link or not, but I don't recall what to look for in the output). Can you confirm if it's eth0 or eth1 that is the one which is supposed to be physically wired up? Your interfaces file is primed to provide an address automatically to eth0 via DHCP when activated. There is no auto line, so it is not configured to automatically activate on bootup. Do you intend this machine to get it's IP address automatically, or for the address to be statically assigned? grep -rl 'eth[01]' /etc |grep -v 'etc/mail\|~$' /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf /etc/samba/smb.conf.ucf-dist /etc/samba/smb.conf /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf /etc/avahi/avahi-daemon.conf /etc/network/interfaces.bak-1 /etc/network/interfaces-autoconfigged-11.10.06_152210 /etc/network/interfaces_hp-static_2 /etc/network/interfaces.bak-0 /etc/network/interfaces_hp-static /etc/network/run/ifstate /etc/network/interfaces Alright, the major file I'd be curious to see is /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf then. - - Jesse -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CA+wh7KgE1a3VSGEXRHgORhy++jwYE4=u9sc3fpxunu5tysc...@mail.gmail.com
XFCE--can't mount USB devices
I'm running XFCE 4.8 on Debian Testing, with everything up to date; I'm using xdm as my display manager. Any attempt by a non-root user to mount a USB device in Thunar fails with the message Mount Failed: Failed to mount [device] Not Authorized. I do have Thunar set to mount removable media automatically. This seems to have been a problem from the start of 4.8; there's quite a bit of discussion of this for Arch Linux and Slackware, but I can't find anything useful for Debian. It seems to be an issue with ConsoleKit, but the solutions for Arch don't really apply for Debian as the setup is different. There was a discussion of this in the Debian forum when 4.8 came out at http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20t=63088start=60 but there was no clean answer. A related problem is that I am not able to restart or shut down using the graphical tools; here's a recent discussion of this on the XFCE forum from a Debian Testing user: http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=6343 This also seems to depend on a ConsoleKit permissions issue. I don't particularly care about this myself, as it's easy enough to do this from the commandline; I'm mentioning it only as a parallel. I'd be grateful for any suggestions. This does seriously affect the usability of the system, and it's getting very frustrating; I'd think that the ability of a regular user to hotplug removable media should be an important thing to have working. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111012095310.ga27...@panix.com
Re: XFCE--can't mount USB devices
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:20:27PM +0100, Brian wrote: On Wed 12 Oct 2011 at 05:53:10 -0400, Jesse Sheidlower wrote: I'm running XFCE 4.8 on Debian Testing, with everything up to date; I'm using xdm as my display manager. Any attempt by a non-root user to mount a USB device in Thunar fails with the message Mount Failed: Failed to mount [device] Not Authorized. I do have Thunar set to mount removable media automatically. This seems to have been a problem from the start of 4.8; there's quite a bit of discussion of this for Arch Linux and Slackware, but I can't find anything useful for Debian. It seems to be an issue with ConsoleKit, but the solutions for Arch don't really apply for Debian as the setup is different. There was a discussion of this in the Debian forum when 4.8 came out at http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20t=63088start=60 but there was no clean answer. The root cause is indeed consolekit. Have a try with this: In /etc/pam.d/common-session insert the line session optional pam_loginuid.co (I assume this was meant to be pam_loginuid.so) just before session optional pam_ck_connector.so nox11 Log out and log in again. Or reboot. This works on my machines (and should solve your restart/shut down problem also) but there is a plan B if needed. I'm afraid I need Plan B. Making this change and rebooting had no effect on USB-device mounting or on the restart/shutdown display. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111012121008.ga10...@panix.com
Re: XFCE--can't mount USB devices
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 01:51:15PM +0100, Brian wrote: On Wed 12 Oct 2011 at 08:10:09 -0400, Jesse Sheidlower wrote: (I assume this was meant to be pam_loginuid.so) Yes. I'm afraid I need Plan B. Making this change and rebooting had no effect on USB-device mounting or on the restart/shutdown display. Create /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/consolekit.pkla with the contents: [restart] Identity=unix-user:* Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.restart ResultAny=yes [stop] Identity=unix-user:brian Took me a bit to figure out why restart worked by shutdown didn't, until I realized that I'm not brian... Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.stop ResultAny=yes In the same directory have udisks.pkla containing: [udisks] Identity=unix-user:* Action=org.freedesktop.udisks* ResultAny=yes OK, this works. Whew. Thank you _very_ much indeed. What is the overall view of this issue? Is this a bug? Is your solution the right one? Should it be fed back to the XFCE team? From my perspective, this should Just Work, and the user shouldn't be expected to figure out a solution like this Really, thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111013020953.ga4...@panix.com
Startup script not working
I'm running Xfce under wheezy on a desktop system. I have two monitors permanently attached to the computer; that is, I never need to do any configuration on the fly. To set up dual-head, I run the simple command xrandr --output HDMI2 --right-of HDMI1 I'd like to run this automatically at boot, and, following some instructions I found online, I put this line in a file called 45custom_xrandr and put it in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ However, this doesn't get executed at boot, so I have to run the xrandr command manually. Permissions are the same as the other files in that directory. What do I need to do to get this to work? I always screw things up when I make an xorg.conf file, so I'd prefer to do this using xrandr, which always works fine, rather than writing an xorg.conf. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110819103905.ga20...@panix.com
Re: xorg problem--dual-head, Debian vs. Ubuntu
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 04:50:01PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Jesse Sheidlower jes...@panix.com [2010.03.15.1453 +0100]: The T60 has a Radeon X1300 card; the built-in monitor runs at 1400 x 1050. I'm trying to attach a 1280 x 1024 external monitor through the VGA port. I'm running Xorg 1.7.5, and I do not have an xorg.conf at all, I'm letting Xorg generate the configuration. When I plug in the external monitor, and run Display Preferences to try to set up the two displays, I get a popup message reading The selected configuration for displays could not be applied[:] required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(2680,1050), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1400, 1400). I'm sorry for the delay--I responded to this yesterday, also posting my xorg.conf file, but I realized that the message apparently never went through. I'll skip the conf file this time. Does the following work? xrandr --output VGA --mode 1280x1024 --left-of LVDS No, that just gives me: $ xrandr --output VGA --mode 1280x1024 --left-of LVDS warning: output VGA not found; ignoring Which is odd, because when I ran xrandr --query it certainly did think it was there. In any event: I did play around with the conf file again, based on the suggestions elsewhere in this thread, and despite the fact that I had unsuccessfully tried similar things before, this time I got it to work, so I successfully have a conf-file based dual-head setup that's adjustable via the Display Preferences app. I do wonder why this is handled differently in Ubuntu vs. Debian--I had imagined that this sort of thing would be based just on the implementation of X, but if it's true that it's some deep tweaking that Ubuntu is doing, I guess I just have to acknowledge that they're different in this regard. I'd think that it would be useful to have Debian do this too (I don't think that everything should be done for me, but here I can't see any reason why it's a downside for the OS to handle it entirely). Jesse Sheidlower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100316125651.ga22...@panix.com
xorg problem--dual-head, Debian vs. Ubuntu
Hi. I'm running Debian unstable on a Lenovo T60. I'd like to run this dual-head with an external monitor, but have been having some problems that I tried to solve but eventually gave up on because I'm so lousy with X configuration. However, I recently discovered that things work fine out-of-the-box with Ubuntu 9.10, running on the same computer (via a live USB stick). So I'm wondering if there's some way to figure out why there's a difference, and whether I can get the Debian system working in the same way. The T60 has a Radeon X1300 card; the built-in monitor runs at 1400 x 1050. I'm trying to attach a 1280 x 1024 external monitor through the VGA port. I'm running Xorg 1.7.5, and I do not have an xorg.conf at all, I'm letting Xorg generate the configuration. When I plug in the external monitor, and run Display Preferences to try to set up the two displays, I get a popup message reading The selected configuration for displays could not be applied[:] required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(2680,1050), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1400, 1400). I've Googled this and found a few bug reports that don't, however, clarify what's going on. But the notable thing for me is that running Ubuntu 9.10, which is running Xorg 1.6.4, this Just Works, with everything else identical--same hardware, same lack of xorg.conf file, etc. I'd be grateful for any suggestions. I'd vastly prefer _not_ to have to start messing around with the configuration file, because apart from this one issue, I don't seem to need one, and Ubuntu doesn't seem to need it either. Thanks. Jesse Sheidlower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100315135348.ga...@panix.com
Segfaults on apt-get update
I'm running Sid. At some point in the last few days, I lost the ability to update my packages; Synaptic, which I normally use, crashes silently (even when run from the commandline), and apt-get update segfaults midway through downloading packages. I Googled around for similar problems, and I tried a few suggestions, including deleting /var/cache/apt/*.bin and increasing the cache size with apt-get -o APT::Cache-Limit=5000 update or the like. None of these has been successful. Any suggestions for what I should try next? Thanks. Jesse Sheidlower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Segfaults on apt-get update
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 11:01:10AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2009-09-04 10:33 +0200, Jesse Sheidlower wrote: I'm running Sid. At some point in the last few days, I lost the ability to update my packages; Synaptic, which I normally use, crashes silently (even when run from the commandline), and apt-get update segfaults midway through downloading packages. Did you notice bug #544080¹ and friends? Not till now ;-) Thanks, that did the trick. Jesse Sheidlower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: ThinkPad freezing after hw update?
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 10:22:58AM +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Jesse Sheidlower wrote: Unfortunately, a few seconds after hitting the MEPIS desktop screen, it, too, locks up hard, and I have to reboot. Next suggestion? :-( Just guessing: hardware failure? On the face of it your machine worked before you sent it for repairs and does not work after it was returned to you. I guess you should ask for help at lenovo... True, but I'd like to make sure that it isn't the case of, say, a BIOS update to something that Linux can't handle, for example Jesse Sheidlower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
ThinkPad freezing after hw update?
I have a two-year-old ThinkPad T60. It recently developed some screen problems--the display was losing colors, and finally started to die completely, going to black shortly after startup--so I sent it back for a warranty repair. I pulled the hard drive before I shipped it. It's back now, but the machine is now locking up hard at various points in the boot process. The first few times it froze at Setting the system clock; then at Activing swapfile swap. Now it is booting all the way and letting me log into Gnome, but then locks up soon after. Needless to say, it was working fine (aside from the screen) before the repair. They included a note saying that they had also upgraded the BIOS and embedded controller--to 2.23 and 1.07 respectively. I'm running Debian unstable, kernel 2.6.29-2-686. I'd be very grateful for any suggestion about what might have caused this, and for how to evaluate and fix it. Thanks. Jesse Sheidlower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: ThinkPad freezing after hw update?
On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 10:28:49AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: Jesse Sheidlower wrote: I have a two-year-old ThinkPad T60. It recently developed some screen problems--the display was losing colors, and finally started to die completely, going to black shortly after startup--so I sent it back for a warranty repair. I pulled the hard drive before I shipped it. It's back now, but the machine is now locking up hard at various points in the boot process. The first few times it froze at Setting the system clock; then at Activing swapfile swap. Now it is booting all the way and letting me log into Gnome, but then locks up soon after. Needless to say, it was working fine (aside from the screen) before the repair. They included a note saying that they had also upgraded the BIOS and embedded controller--to 2.23 and 1.07 respectively. I'm running Debian unstable, kernel 2.6.29-2-686. I'd be very grateful for any suggestion about what might have caused this, and for how to evaluate and fix it. Thanks. Jesse Sheidlower Have you thought about testing it with a Live CD? I would recommend the SimplyMEPIS version 8.0.06 it's based on Lenny http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=05447 and if it works ok, you can go to the Kmenu, System, Mepis, Mepis System Assistant and check and repair your partitions. It also has the tools needed for most computer maintenance like Testdisk, GParted etc and good to have in your toolbox. I gave this a try. Unfortunately, a few seconds after hitting the MEPIS desktop screen, it, too, locks up hard, and I have to reboot. Next suggestion? :-( Jesse Sheidlower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Dual-head on Lenovo T60?
I'm trying to get a dual-head setup working on my Lenovo T60, without any success, despite having looked at number of pieces of documentation, in particular the comprehensive-seeming wiki entry at http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12, so I'd be grateful if someone could give me a push in the right direction. I'm running Sid, with the 2.6.29-2 kernel, and version 1.6.2 RC 1 of the xorg server, with Gnome as my WM. My video card is the ATI Radeon X1300; my X log shows it as: (--) PCI:*(0...@1:0:0) ATI Technologies Inc M52 [Mobility Radeon X1300] rev 0, Mem @ 0xd800/134217728, 0xee10/65536, I/O @ 0x2000/256, BIOS @ 0x??? ?/131072 The built-in display is 1400 x 1050, and the monitor I'd like to use is 1280 x 1024. I want this monitor to display a separate window. I would like to take advantage of dynamic configuration using grandr, as I want to be able to plug a monitor in without restarting X. I normally don't have an xorg.conf file, since the auto-generated one works fine. However, this seems to be loading the radeon driver, and the wiki I mentioned above implies that only the radeonhd or ati drivers allow for dynamic configuration. I tried using X -configure to generate an xorg.conf, and then specified the ati or radeonhd drivers, but both of these caused hard lockups. Also, I note that if I boot the machine with a monitor attached, all of the output goes to that monitor, not the built-in screen. I don't mind having an actual conf file, but I need the flexibility of unplugging the monitor and moving around without compromising the built-in display. When I use the auto-generated xorg.conf and run grandr, I'm able to do some things, such as flip the image on the second monitor, but in the Layout tab, the Clone or Extend options are grayed out, and I can't drag the icons around. And when I run xrandr on the commandline, it tells me Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1400 x 1050, maximum 1400 x 1400, so if the maximum really is 1400 x 1400, it seems like dual-head would never be possible. I'm at a loss about what to try next, or what details of my system would be helpful to provide. Any suggestions? Jesse Sheidlower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Pulseaudio problems--certain parts not playing
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 05:24:27AM +0100, Mark McCorkell wrote: I've no handy solution, since after way too much messing around with configuration files, I took the easy option and killed off PulseAudio. IMHO, there are still too many applications that don't work nicely enough with Pulse to make it worth the hassle*. How does plain ALSA do with USB audio? I installed Pulse a while ago because of problems getting USB audio to work, and though it breaks every five minutes and I can't figure out how to fix it, it _does_ play through USB speakers. If ALSA supports that well enough, I'll happily move back--I don't have any need for networked audio servers, or twelve different kinds of volume controls, it's just my desktop. Jesse Sheidlower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Setting up TAP interface at boot?
Where's the right place to set up a TAP interface at boot time? When my system's up, I usually run tunctl -t tap0 as root, but I'd like this to be created automatically. I do have an entry in /etc/network/interfaces to configure this: auto tap0 iface tap0 inet static address 192.168.5.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 but this won't work if the interface doesn't exist, so I end up having to do everything by hand. Thanks. Jesse Sheidlower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Mounting Samba and fstab problem
I'm trying to set up a Samba share on a Lenny laptop that I can access as a regular user (i.e., me). I've tried going through the man pages and Googling, but I'm still hung up on something. I can mount it manually with: $ sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=jester //192.168.1.10/HD /mnt/RemoteDisk and then entering the Samba password. However, then I only have access as root. My goal is to have access without becoming root. I don't need it to mount on boot, as it's a laptop, and I can't access the disk when away from home. I tried following various instructions in the man pages, and after making a separate credential file, ended up with this in my /etc/fstab: //192.168.1.10/HD /mnt/RemoteDisk smbfs noauto,users,credentials=/home/jester/.smbpassword 0 0 However, when I then try to mount this, I get an error: $ mount //192.168.1.10/HD mount error: permission denied or not superuser and mount.cifs not installed SUID $ Where is my mistake here? I've tried various things with no luck. Thanks. Jesse Sheidlower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mounting Samba and fstab problem
On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 08:16:06PM +0200, subscriptions wrote: On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 17:52 +0100, Jesse Sheidlower wrote: I'm trying to set up a Samba share on a Lenny laptop that I can access as a regular user (i.e., me). I've tried going through the man pages and Googling, but I'm still hung up on something. I can mount it manually with: $ sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=jester //192.168.1.10/HD /mnt/RemoteDisk and then entering the Samba password. However, then I only have access as root. ... Where is my mistake here? I've tried various things with no luck. Thanks. Jesse Sheidlower Use samba mount (as user, no fstab needed): $ smbmount //192.168.1.10/HD mount-point Where mount-point has 'rwx' for you! Oh, god, thanks so much. The problem was just that /mnt/RemoteDisk was owned by root; once I changed this there's no problem with either an fstab-based mount or smbmount. Thanks! Jesse -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please send me a lifeline
I have been trying to convert over to Debian for some time now but I have a few issues that I cannot fix by myself. I am using Etch and have used Sarge but I cannot get online media to play. everything is set up for mediaplayer or a flash player. I am not skilled at command line use to understand what I need to do to load a program from a non-debian package. If I had detailed instruction on what I need to do I could try. Please help. I am a lone voice in my area for Debian and need help. Thank you, Jesse Taylor -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Virtual PC
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 02:20:40PM +0100, pch wrote: Hello, Can anyone recommend a good virtual machine, equivalent MS Virtual PC. I like VirtualBox. I had been using VMWare, but kept running into problems every time there was a kernel update, when I had to search around for patches and what not. And the interface is now nightmarishly bad. If you're running a datacenter it might be a good choice, I don't know. But I switched to VirtualBox last week and got up and running in minutes, everything Just Works, the interface is great, etc. You can just add to /etc/apt/sources.list the appropriate line from here: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads and you're good to go. For desktop stuff I think it can't be beat. Jesse Sheidlower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: puseaudio in Debian - is it ready?
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 12:00:20PM -0400, H.S. wrote: Hello, Is anybody using pulseaudio in Debian? I am interested to know what is its status in Debian Sid and Lenny. If somebody has been successful in installing and running it, could you share your experience. I tried it some time ago and gave up in frustration, but recently gave it another try. I was specifically trying to solve the problem of USB audio: different apps seemed to have different ways of dealing with this, so I couldn't just plug in USB speakers and go, I had to do one thing for the system as a whole, then a different thing in one sound program, then another thing for blah blah blah. The PA installation and setup was a bit of a drag, though I followed detailed instructions online. And now that it's working, it's perfect; everything Just Works. There are a few minor problems I'm having but on the whole I'm glad I did it. Jesse Sheidlower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: puseaudio in Debian - is it ready?
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 05:04:27PM -0400, H.S. wrote: Jesse Sheidlower wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 12:00:20PM -0400, H.S. wrote: Hello, Is anybody using pulseaudio in Debian? I am interested to know what is its status in Debian Sid and Lenny. If somebody has been successful in installing and running it, could you share your experience. I tried it some time ago and gave up in frustration, but recently gave it another try. I was specifically trying to solve the problem of USB audio: different apps seemed to have different ways of dealing with this, so I couldn't just plug in USB speakers and go, I had to do one thing for the system as a whole, then a different thing in one sound program, then another thing for blah blah blah. The PA installation and setup was a bit of a drag, though I followed detailed instructions online. And now that it's working, it's perfect; everything Just Works. There are a few minor problems I'm having but on the whole I'm glad I did it. Jesse Sheidlower Having read what people posted, it appears that pulseaudio is on the right track. In this thread, only Paul has discouraged its use and Preston is having trouble (appears to be a hardware problem), and two others are having a ball of a time with pa. So if it works, it is wonderful. If it doesn't, it is a pain to get working. Moreover, it has networked sound. So I can play a movie on my media PC in my home lan over at my laptop -- if I understand pa correctly. Now if somebody can describe the steps which are fairly reliable to get it to work on a Debian machine, I might give it another shot in the not too distant future when I get some time. The two documents I found to be exceptionally helpful (used in combination) were an extensive Debian how-to at http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=12497 and PA's own docs at http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup Jesse Sheidlower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strange problem with copy paste.
Just to confirm, because my GF was the one who told me about this, she had clicked on it, but this mallware doesn't work on Linux does it? On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Dave Thayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:53:46PM -0500, Jesse Welling wrote: So apparently it was this: http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1733 So any idea on the angle they are trying to attack once you go to the website? Well, I couldn't resist clicking.. (running iceweasel on Debian, what could possibly go wrong?) You get redirected to a fake malware scan site which, big surprise, indicates that you need to download and install Antivirus 2009 which is a fairly well known mallware. Cheers, dt -- Dave Thayer | Whenever you read a good book, it's like the Denver, Colorado USA | author is right there, in the room talking to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | you, which is why I don't like to read | good books. - Jack Handey Deep Thoughts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strange problem with copy paste.
So apparently it was this: http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1733 So any idea on the angle they are trying to attack once you go to the website? On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 4:58 PM, s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stackpole, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: Jesse Welling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Strange problem with copy paste. I'm running Debian Testing for reference. The problem I'm having seems very very suspicious to me, and please don't think this is a joke, but I think my clipboard (or whatever takes care of copy paste) has broken. No mater what I try to copy from I can only paste this http://xp-vista-update.net/?id=3D91873534231, which feels a lot like = some kind of malware to me. Has any one else seen this? Do you use rdesktop? If so, that is probably your problem. I have noticed and reported this problem before. I can only replicate it with rdesktop when I am cutting/pasting between Linux and the Windows rdesktop session. I can copy paste within the rdesktop just fine, but none of the copies will copy out to Gnome. Gnome just pastes the same I've noticed oddness going on too and I'm using fluxbox (no rdesktop). Highlight something in iceweasel, go to another tab backgrounding the highlighted tab, try to paste into *term, doesn't work. I'm sure it didn't used to be this way. Maybe it's a browser thing. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Strange problem with copy paste.
Hi all, I'm running Debian Testing for reference. The problem I'm having seems very very suspicious to me, and please don't think this is a joke, but I think my clipboard (or whatever takes care of copy paste) has broken. No mater what I try to copy from I can only paste this http://xp-vista-update.net/?id=91873534231, which feels a lot like some kind of malware to me. Has any one else seen this? Jesse W.
Update manager replacement?
On my current Lenny machine, I have something that appears to be the Gnome update manager running; I regularly get an orange box that pops up on my panel that tells me what packages can be updated, and it handles the updating. On a new Lenny install, this is not present. I do have something under System Administration Software Sources that lets me choose how often it should check for updates, but these don't actually seem to be displayed anywhere. So I have to use the Synaptic Package Manager manually. Am I missing something, or is there a way to get the older functionality back? Jesse Sheidlower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update manager replacement?
On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 04:10:13PM +0100, michael wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 11:04 -0400, Jesse Sheidlower wrote: On my current Lenny machine, I have something that appears to be the Gnome update manager running; I regularly get an orange box that pops up on my panel that tells me what packages can be updated, and it handles the updating. On a new Lenny install, this is not present. I do have something under System Administration Software Sources that lets me choose how often it should check for updates, but these don't actually seem to be displayed anywhere. So I have to use the Synaptic Package Manager manually. Am I missing something, or is there a way to get the older functionality back? The orange box only appears if there's stuff to update, so if you've just installed the latest Lenny and the latest apps Yeah, but every day I have minor things to update on the other machine, but nothing on this one. And if I go to Synaptic, as I did a few minutes ago, I learn that I have 122M worth of updates to get through So clearly I think there's something I need to be told, but someone is not telling me :-) Jesse Sheidlower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Shutting off graphical ssh agent popup?
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 08:59:03AM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 07:59:21PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: The ssh-agent is started by /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90x11-common_ssh-agent You can edit this file to make sure ssh-agent is not started automatically anymore with the X session. Or actually: remove use-ssh-agent from /etc/X11/Xsession.options . Following up after a long time, but neither of these solutions works. However, I asked on a Gnome list, and learned that this functionality is provided by the Gnome keyring. To shut it off, you can go to GConf and set /apps/gnome-keyring/daemon-components/ssh to false. Hope this helps someone else. Jesse Sheidlower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Shutting off graphical ssh agent popup?
I'm running Lenny with Gnome on my ThinkPad. Previously, and on all my other machines, when I launch an ssh command from the command line, I would get an ssh password request on the command line like Enter passphrase for key '/home/login_id/.ssh/id_rsa': (If I ran ssh-agent myself, I might go straight through; OK, but this should be my choice.) After a recent update, I'm now getting a window that pops up that reads Enter password to unlock private key. An application wants access to the private key 'id_rsa', but it is locked. I first have to kill this window before getting back to the command line. How do I turn off this behavior? I couldn't find anything in the Gnome menus that seems to control this. I don't want Gnome deciding whether I should be running an ssh agent or not. Thanks. Jesse Sheidlower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Suspend problem on T60
I'm running Etch on a Lenovo T60. Up to now, I haven't had a problem suspending my computer by shutting the lid. This morning, I tried to do this and it didn't work; it locked the screensaver, but did not suspend. When I re-entered my password, there was a message from Gnome Power Manager saying that there was a suspend problem, and pointing to a link for more info. The link, to http://www.gnome.org/projects/gnome-power-manager/faq.html , was unhelpful; it suggested that either the hardware is unsupported (clearly not true, as it's been working up to now), or that I need to file a bug report, though the link to this didn't work. Any ideas what really might be causing this, and how to fix the problem? I'm not sure if errors are logged, and where they go, or any other way to evaluate what's happening. I don't _think_ I upgraded or installed anything that might be conflicting with this. Thanks. Jesse Sheidlower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Suspend problem on T60 (moved)
On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 05:11:07PM -0400, Jesse Sheidlower wrote: I'm running Etch on a Lenovo T60. Up to now, I haven't had a problem suspending my computer by shutting the lid. (I've now sent this message to the debian-laptop list, which I should have done originally. Apologies for the duplicate post.) Jesse Sheidlower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NetworkManager help, esp. after suspend
On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 12:49:46AM +0200, Wolodja Wentland wrote: On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 18:19 -0400, Jesse Sheidlower wrote: I'm a relatively new Debian user, running an up-to-date Etch on a ThinkPad T60. Welcome. I am running Debian on a T60 as well and am very pleased with it so far. I guess you know http://thinkwiki.org ? It is a great source for thinkpad related informations. Yes, I've found it very useful in general, esp. when I was installing, though it didn't have anything helpful for this. I'm having some trouble getting the NetworkManager app to work [ ... nm not working properly ... ] Is there anything I should be doing differently? The docs on NetworkManager are pretty slim. If it works as advertised it would be really convenient, but I do need to be able to come out of a suspend a join a network immediately. Try editing /etc/hibernate/common.conf and uncomment ### networkmanager EnableNMReconnect yes ^ I didn't have this line in that file, and it's not documented in hibernate.conf. that might do the trick. That said it is not always working and i have to click Enable Networking twice after wake-up occasionally. You did configure nm as stated in: /usr/share/doc/network-manager/README.Debian Yes, though I didn't find it too relevant. At least if it is relevant, I'm not sure how. My /etc/network/interfaces is: --- # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 --- The NM README file would suggest that eth1 (my wireless interface) is managed by NM, since it's not explicitly listed here, and this is in general the case (i.e. that NM manages eth1), though my problem is the failure of NM to connect to a network after a resume, and that network-admin _does_ manage to do this (though not reflected in the NM panel app). If the NM README file is telling me to do something else, I'm afraid my reading comprehension skills are too poor to make sense of it :-( Thanks. Jesse Sheidlower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NetworkManager help, esp. after suspend
I'm a relatively new Debian user, running an up-to-date Etch on a ThinkPad T60. I'm having some trouble getting the NetworkManager app to work the way it seems it should. In particular, after a suspend it takes some time (a few minutes) to acknowledge that there are network interfaces present, and then it is unable to connect to any available network. I'm sitting fifteen feet away from a WAP, and it (and others) shows in the list of available networks, but when I try to join, it just spins for a while before giving up. I was able to get a wireless connection by running network-admin, which connected instantly, but this seems not to work with NetworkManager--my connection didn't show in the status bar on the panel. Interestingly, as I was typing this (having connected with network-admin), the NetworkManager thing started spinning, indicating that it was trying to join a network, and it did successfully join my network. This was perhaps five or six hours after my last suspend. Is there anything I should be doing differently? The docs on NetworkManager are pretty slim. If it works as advertised it would be really convenient, but I do need to be able to come out of a suspend a join a network immediately. Thanks. Jesse Sheidlower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problems with xserver?
Thanks, best to just downgrade. I modified the files as you suggested but aptitude claims it can't find the package file in the associated directory which is a bit strange. Hopefully that'll iron itself out. Thanks again, JesseMatt Zagrabelny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:it seems that the upgrade from xserver-xorg 6.8.2.dfsg.1-11 to 6.9.?caused some individuals considerable grief within my local debiancommunity.*) 1/2 of a coworkers dual head system that i admin stoped working.*) a friend's dell inspiron just has a blank screen now.$ grep snapshot /etc/apt/sources.listdeb http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2005/11/30/debian unstable maincontrib non-free$ grep Default /etc/apt/apt.confAPT::Default-Release "testing";then using aptitude backrev xserver-xorg, and then hold the package.-matt zagrabelny-- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail.
problems with xserver?
Hi, I recently upgraded my etch installation and ran into what might be an issue with xserver-xorg. I'm running KDE 3.5 and everything works fine except that the pointer-arrow is *extremely* slow and the "button tap" feature no longer works. I'm using a fujitsu laptop with a synaptic mousepad and xorg appears to load all the modules fine. I've tried changing options in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and reconfiguring the x-server with no success. Does anyone know how I can fix this or could it be a slightly buggy new x-server? Thanks, Jesse Goldman Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.
Default rxvt urxvt fonts in Debian Sarge
Hello, I'm trying to switch from rxvt to urxvt (rxvt-unicode), but keep the same font appearance. As far as I can tell, I have no default font configured for rxvt (.Xresources and .Xdefaults are blank). I found a default font for urxvt in /etc/X11/app-defaults/URxvt, which I commented out. I then tried relaunching rxvt and urxvt, but the font in urxvt was a different size and may have been a different font. Any suggestions how to fix this? I muddled around with the -fn switch and .Xdefaults for awhile, but couldn't fix it. Thanks, Dasunt -- Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice. - Vernon Schryver -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: udev question
Kudret Güler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: udev creates /dev/hdc(burner) with permissions 640 and with owner root.hal. Therefore hal group members cannot burn. And any change is reversed on reboot. How can I tell udev to create it with permissions 660? Or should I just put it in a script to chmod /dev/hdc on every boot? I think I actually just figured this out today. Check /etc/udev/rules.d. If there's only one file there, a soft link entitled z_hal_plugdev.rules or something (I'm away from my computer right now), there's your problem. Just copy (or, even better, link) udev.rules from the /etc/udev/ directory into the rules.d directory and run invoke-rc.d udev restart. Remember, though, you need to be in the plugdev group for this to work properly. I have no idea why udev.rules isn't in the rules directory to begin with. But moving it in there should do the trick. Best, Jesse -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problem about starting KDE and Gnome
Manlin Li [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I installed Debian testing version on my IBM T42. And I use ndiswrapper as wireless driver. Every time I activate the wlan0, I can not start kde or gnome. Kde stops at Initializing System Service and Gnome stops at Session Manager. Is there anyone can help me to solve this problem? Thanks Manlin Do you have a loopback line in your /etc/network/interfaces? Something like: auto lo iface lo inet loopback If you don't have this, KDE at least will stop at Initializing System Services. I've never tried starting Gnome without it so I can't say there. --Jesse -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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trying to get java and tomcat running (newby)
ok, i had java (blackdown, 1.3 i think) working ok, and tomcat (5?) as well, but i had downloaded and unpacked and configured them myself. suddenly, tomcat ceased to function (I don't do a whole lot on that server except develop web sites, and I can't think of anything I would've done to muss it up). so i'm trying to get it working again, and i decided to try to use the debian package system instead. so i've gone into dselect and configured it to install a few java packages, tomcat, and a couple others that were necessary. the problem is, when it goes to install java, the software agreement comes onto the screen, and at the end there's no key that I can press that will accept it and move on! i know i'm probably a moron, but i'm not using any gui (like i said, just need the server). any guidance would be greatly appreciated.. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installing ndiswrapper module for 2.6.7-1-686
Brian Samek wrote: It appears that I must rebuild my kernel. However, before I do this, I'd like to know if there are any other options. 1. What is the 2.6.7-1-686 header files package for? 2. Is there a way I can get the source for the 2.6.7-1-686? 3. Is there a way to compile ndiswrapper for my current kernel despite not having access to the source? Thanks I had the same problem. I saw a couple of references online which seemed to indicate that the headers file (i.e. kernel-headers-2.6.7-1-686) *should* be enough to build the module, but I never had any luck. Perhaps my symlinks weren't quite right? In any case, I finally gave up and used kernel-package to roll a new kernel and modules_image. So there probably should be a way to avoid rebuilding. But in my case at least, it ended up taking a good deal less time to just rebuild than to figure out what that way might be. (You could probably just copy the config-2.6.7-1-686 from /boot and do an oldconfig if you don't feel like changing anything.) Best, Jesse -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get dist-upgrade
Jeff Elkins wrote: Huh? --- The following packages will be REMOVED: blt-common epiphany-browser gimp-nonfree kdelibs4-dev libcupsys2-dev mozilla mozilla-browser mozilla-mailnews mozilla-psm mozilla-xft -- I've been disconnected lately, but what's up with this? I'd like to get current, but I need my Mozilla :) Jeff At least as far as mozilla goes, I had this problem a while (a month?) back, and resolved it by first running apt-get --reinstall install mozilla. This led it to install some dependencies and then dist-upgrade worked more smoothly. At least, if memory serves... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Color Distortion in KDE
Card Driver i810 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Generic Monitor HorizSync 28-96 VertRefresh 50-75 Option DPMS EndSection Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Device Generic Video Card Monitor Generic Monitor DefaultDepth24 SubSection Display Depth 1 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 4 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 8 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 15 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 16 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen Default Screen InputDevice Generic Keyboard InputDevice Configured Mouse InputDevice Generic Mouse EndSection Section DRI Mode0666 EndSection Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, Jesse -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PCMCIA Networking -- who controls? (SOLVED)
Okay, I figured out my mistake. I stumbled across a reference that for hotplug cards you are NOT supposed to have the auto line in the stanza. Oops! Jesse Hein wrote: I succesfully installed wlan-ng and have the card working, kinda. When first put in, or at bootup, I get an error message about turning it on. If I type: ifdown wlan0 ifup wlan0 It then comes back up okay. My guess is that something else is getting to the card first and trying to start it up unsuccesfully, then the network script is coming in and can't do it because the first one messed it up. I have the following to /etc/network/interfaces (Xed out the sercutiy stuff) auto wlan0 iface wlan0 inet dhcp gateway 192.168.1.1 wireless mode managed wireless_essid X wireless_enc on wlan_ng_key0 XX No other files were touched, I was under the impression this should be enough. Was I wrong? Jesse Hein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X locking up when closed
When I close xwindows on my laptop, it locks up (in a funny state obviously as the screen goes crazy). The only way I've found out of it is to reboot. So, where can I look for causes? I've fiddled with the config file doing everything I can think of, but no go. Could something in the kernel cause this? I just want pointers on where to look. I've had more trouble getting X to work on every machine I've installed linux on then anything else and I *still* am fuzzy on my understanding of it. All help appreciated, Jesse Hein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PCMCIA Networking -- who controls?
I succesfully installed wlan-ng and have the card working, kinda. When first put in, or at bootup, I get an error message about turning it on. If I type: ifdown wlan0 ifup wlan0 It then comes back up okay. My guess is that something else is getting to the card first and trying to start it up unsuccesfully, then the network script is coming in and can't do it because the first one messed it up. I have the following to /etc/network/interfaces (Xed out the sercutiy stuff) auto wlan0 iface wlan0 inet dhcp gateway 192.168.1.1 wireless mode managed wireless_essid X wireless_enc on wlan_ng_key0 XX No other files were touched, I was under the impression this should be enough. Was I wrong? Jesse Hein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wireless Network Pcmcia card
I've installed a wireless network card and gotten it working using /etc/network/interfaces. The glitch is that from bootup or insert to get it working I have to do an ifdown then an ifup -- somthing else is trying (unsuccesfully) to bring it up. Any thoughts on what could be doing this? And how do I stop it. Thanks, Jesse Hein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Xfree86 Meltdown on shutdown
Installed debian on a new Toshiba Tecra 780CDM. It was going fine until I got to installing X. X comes up, but it seems to flicker, comething I didn't know LCDs could do. Worse, when I shut down X the screen goes into a meltdown -- random splotches of overburnt color and nothing I do gets it out of this without a hard reset. Has anyone seen symptoms like this before? The chip is a S3 Virge/MX and I've removed most of the modules except type1, speedo, extmod and freetype. Jesse Hein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.4 won't recognize my keyboard?
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, Forest Fisher wrote: I'm trying to install Debian on my new laptop and I want to install the 2.4 kernel so I can use reiserfs.I'm installing from cd's that I ordered from debian.org for woody 3.0r2, i386 architecture. The problem is that the 2.4 kernel doesn't seem to recognize my keyboard but the 2.2 kernel does. My laptop's model is hp pavillion ze4560us and the product spefication says only that the keyboard is a standard keyboard with 88 keys. Any thoughts on why the 2.4 kernel won't recognize my keyboard if the 2.2 kernel will/ways around this problem? First, please wrap your lines. Second, remember to do an `apt-get update dist-upgrade` when you are done setting things up. As for your immediate question, try using either an external PS/2 keyboard or USB keyboard for the setup. Dunno why you 2.4 wouldn't see the default keyboard -- sounds likes its a configuration problem or a kernel problem. Google for ``pavillion keyboard 2.4'' in google groups, you should get a few hits. ~ Jesse Meyer -- Even the samurai have teddy bears, icq: 34583382 and even the teddy bearsmsn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] get drunk. jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: Why the net Sucks: Stonehenge
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Nano Nano wrote: Watching a program on PBS, I decided I wanted to read about Stonehenge. Off to google, I go, searching for Stonehenge. Didn't like the results. Tried Google directory, Yahoo, and Teoma: didn't like any of them. The experience I wanted was a deep, rich, complete, authoritative, well-annotated, and well-accepted Library-like experience reading about Stonehenge: names of the best scholars, the names of the most influential histories and critiques on the subject, in short the sort of experience I would get at a University Library, only faster. The internet is nothing like that. I am lucky in than San Jose has opened a San Jose State's University library to the public: even though it is not a world-class university, the quality of the knowledge available there *blows away* what I can find on the Internet. Did you try: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonehenge They tend to have decent links. Then again, sometimes a public library is the best place to look. If I wanted an overview of the English Civil War, weaving, or anthropology, the local library will probably be one of the easiest ways to find that information. However, if I want the biography of Haruki Murakami[1], a study of the Gilyak[2] language, or the latest PHP documentation[3], the web will probably be faster and more in depth. ~ Jesse Meyer [1] Japanese author. Writes some rather unusual books. [2] One of the few languages on earth that can't be traced to any other language. [3] PHP has some rather good documentation on their homepage. -- icq:34583382 | Nethack 3.4._3_ is out! http://www.nethack.org jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And how can man die better / Than facing msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | fearful odds / For the ashes of his fathers / yim:tsunad | and the temples of his gods? ~ Babington pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [HELP] Debian Woody on HP Proliant DL 380 G-3
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, arief_mulya wrote: Before, please cc the answer to me directly also as I not registered on the list. Argh! Please, if you are asking for our help, why not check either the list archives or google groups? Other thing I have in mind is, what is Smart Array controller? I got 3 scsi disk each 72GB, but only got 144GB disk in size. Is it RAID or something like that? The most probably explanation is that you are either missing a disk or running RAID 5. ~ Jesse Meyer -- icq:34583382 | Nethack 3.4._3_ is out! http://www.nethack.org jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And how can man die better / Than facing msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | fearful odds / For the ashes of his fathers / yim:tsunad | and the temples of his gods? ~ Babington pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: game
On Fri, 09 Jan 2004, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: Dr Gavin Seddon wrote: Hi, This may seem like a lame question, but, here I spend most time conducting computational biophysics for drug design and I could do with some kind of distraction so I don't keep on working during breaks. I have ALWAYS avoided games on my workstation but it was suggested they may provide a necessary distraction. Can anyone suggest a good game that isn't just mindlessly shooting stuff. Say a good adventure with nice graphics that requires some thought? nethack and Omega come to mind. KQ is decent and Adonthell seems as if it would be decent (I'd play it except for the fact it LAGS my computer). You might also want to check out FreeCiv and FreeCraft. For other 'roguelikes' don't forget: ADOM ( free as in beer, not speech ) Dungeon Crawl Slash'em ( nethack variant ) Angband and variants For non-roguelikes, I either end up playing old RPGs on an emulator (zsnes, etc) or (recently) I've been playing a lot of xscorch. -- icq:34583382 | Nethack 3.4._3_ is out! http://www.nethack.org jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And how can man die better / Than facing msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | fearful odds / For the ashes of his fathers / yim:tsunad | and the temples of his gods? ~ Babington pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: xmove + ssh failure
On Tue, 06 Jan 2004, s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Jesse Meyer: I'm trying to use ssh + xmove on a debian server to launch clients to an OpenBSD laptop, but xmove seems to error on me: ssh -v will show more. See /etc/ssh/sshd_config (on server) and ssh_config X11 forwarding is often disabled on servers. Both ssh and sshd must be able to agree on valid crypto protocols for any of this to work. If one only accepts RSA and the other only does blowfish, you're hosed. You need to re-work keys. Ah, but I can forward X apps, just not xmove, for some odd reason. (See grandparent for full details) No new messages from -v. I think xmove is rejecting any authentication... What is xmove doing that's so different from rxvt? ~ Jesse Meyer -- icq:34583382 | Nethack 3.4._3_ is out! http://www.nethack.org jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And how can man die better / Than facing msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | fearful odds / For the ashes of his fathers / yim:tsunad | and the temples of his gods? ~ Babington pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian Specific Books?
On Wed, 07 Jan 2004, Justin Ellison wrote: I'm a linux user of 3 years who manages 10-15 RedHat servers at work, and I've run Gentoo on my laptop since 1.2. The mailing list is great, but the noise floor is too much for me. First of all, a good email client, aliases, and a killthread script is your friend. Impliment one using your email-client-of-choice and your scripting-language-of-choice. Procmail + Mutt + common shell tools can do it. debian-user is a flood of information. I know all the generic linux related stuff, I need to know more about the specifics of Debian, ie, roll-your-own deb's, kernel building, adding my own modules to the installation kernel, etc. You don't need books to learn debian. For the basics, try: http://www.debian.org/doc/ For package management, including building debs, try: man apt-get man apt-cache man dpkg man dpkg-source man dpkg-buildpackage ls /usr/share/doc For roll-your-own-kernels the debian way, try: apt-get install kernel-package man make-kpkg For patching the boot floppy for a customer kernel, try: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-boot-floppy-techinfo.en.html If you are planning to switch those 10-15 RH servers over to Debian in the future, may I also suggest looking at: apt-cache show apt-proxy For all good debian questions, try: http://groups.google.com (include debian in your search terms) Anyone have any good books that could get me up and running nice and quickly? There is a _Running_Debian_ book, but I have yet to review it. _Unix_Power_Tools_ is a must read for any linux user, I like to think. _Running_Linux_ is a good general linux book. Plus, of course, a good reference book for your favorite scripting language. :) Btw, are you trying to move away from Redhat do to the nearing end-of-life of their 'free' line? Just curious. ~ Jesse Meyer -- icq:34583382 | Nethack 3.4._3_ is out! http://www.nethack.org jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And how can man die better / Than facing msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | fearful odds / For the ashes of his fathers / yim:tsunad | and the temples of his gods? ~ Babington pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
xmove + ssh failure
Hello, I'm trying to use ssh + xmove on a debian server to launch clients to an OpenBSD laptop, but xmove seems to error on me: /* pang is the OpenBSD laptop, 10.0.0.4/pong is the debian server */ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ ssh -X -f 10.0.0.4 xmove [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ ssh -f 10.0.0.4 rxvt -display localhost:1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. Xlib: connection to localhost:1.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server rxvt: can't open display localhost:1 xmove is not authorized to connect to server localhost:10.0. X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. channel 2: chan_read_failed for istate 3 channel 2: chan_ibuf_empty for istate 3 I'm assuming this problem is somewhere with X's authentication, but I don't know where to look. A simple 'xhost +' on both machines does nothing. To add insult to injury, the follow does work: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ ssh 10.0.0.4 [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: No mail. Last login: Tue Jan 6 23:17:37 2004 from 10.0.0.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ rxvt -display localhost:10.0 Help! ~ Jesse Meyer -- icq:34583382 | Nethack 3.4._3_ is out! http://www.nethack.org jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And how can man die better / Than facing msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | fearful odds / For the ashes of his fathers / yim:tsunad | and the temples of his gods? ~ Babington pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 56K Modems
On Fri, 02 Jan 2004, Paul Morgan wrote: On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 20:37:17 -0600, Jacob S. wrote: Is it just me or is it hard to find a good external hardware modem (non-win/linmodem) these days? I'm using a US Robotics 56K Performance Pro, model number 5610B. It's PCI, controller-based, V.92. I can second that. The OEM version is model number: Model 2976. NewEgg used to sell them for less then $50 (which is where I got mine). Where I work we sell the 2977 model (which has something like voice or fax, but is still a hardware modem) for $49 with free SH, so they are definitely affordable. One caveat -- for several people, they seem to identify as ttyS4. That's a little weird (com5) but works fine for most people. However, awhile ago there was a large thread where someone couldn't get their 5610/2976 working. I still recommend it though, its a heck of a modem that I probably spend 15+ hours a day connected through. ~ Jesse Meyer -- icq:34583382 | Nethack 3.4._3_ is out! http://www.nethack.org jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And how can man die better / Than facing msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | fearful odds / For the ashes of his fathers / yim:tsunad | and the temples of his gods? ~ Babington pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Hard drive checking.
On Fri, 02 Jan 2004, Alex wrote: Is there a tool on the debian installation disc for checking a hard drive prior ot install? I'm not sure about the debian installation disc, but tomsrtbt is a 1 floppy distro with the `badblocks` command to check the surface of a disk. Works for me. ~ Jesse Meyer -- icq:34583382 | Nethack 3.4._3_ is out! http://www.nethack.org jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And how can man die better / Than facing msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | fearful odds / For the ashes of his fathers / yim:tsunad | and the temples of his gods? ~ Babington pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ethernet routing
On Fri, 02 Jan 2004, Kevin Mark wrote: i am trying to set up a network in my office at work. the 192.168.1.100 machine can ping the 192.168.1.1 and 10.20.1.158 interface but not the 10.20.4.48 interface. the 10.20.1.158 interface can ping the 10.20.4.48 interface. any suggestions as to what i am doing wrong? echo 'ip_forward=yes' /etc/network/options as root. this turns on ip forwarding. This allow packects to be sent to the next computer and beyond. echo 'ip_forward=yes' /etc/network/options Note the double '' ~ Jesse Meyer -- icq:34583382 | Nethack 3.4._3_ is out! http://www.nethack.org jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And how can man die better / Than facing msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | fearful odds / For the ashes of his fathers / yim:tsunad | and the temples of his gods? ~ Babington pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Dug myself into several deep holes
On Fri, 02 Jan 2004, Sam Rosenfeld wrote: Over several months I have tried to fix (or improve) sound, mail, X windows, and much more. Now, each time I boot up it's an adventure. For the most part I have tried to decipher whatever relevant docs I could lay my hands on, but my fiddling has clearly made things worse. I hardly know what's what in my single-user box, which contains Debian 3.0, Linux 2.2.20, mutt, galeon, python2.1, tcl/tk8.3 and a host of mathematical, analytical, and context-specific applications which may not be problematic. For future reference: 1) Never go outside of the package manager. It knows more then you. 2) RCS is your friend for configuration files. 3) Backups are your friend for massive screwups. 4) A test user account is your friend for testing changes to user programs. 5) Only change one thing at a time. Fix it if it doesn't work, or revert it to the previous version. 6) Keep a notebook of what you do! ~ Jesse Meyer -- icq:34583382 | Nethack 3.4._3_ is out! http://www.nethack.org jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And how can man die better / Than facing msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | fearful odds / For the ashes of his fathers / yim:tsunad | and the temples of his gods? ~ Babington pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: USB watches
On Sat, 27 Dec 2003, Andrew Pritchard wrote: I was given a rather funky Xmas present - a USB flashdrive/watch (http://www.memixdirect.com) which says it's bootable. It also claims to be Linux 2.4 compatible, though I've not yet tried connecting it to a Linux box. The programs which come with the watch allow you to set the watch as bootable, using a Micro$oft OS. I was wondering if it were possible to set it up as a Linux bootable device. I'd also like to create a bootdisk, which has a Linux kernel on it as my NT box at work won't talk to anything USB (gaahh we hatee NT! *sorry - been watching too much LotR*). Specifically so it can talk to the NTFS partition on my machine at work. Alternatively I'll repartition the machine and create a FAT partition so Linux can talk to that. The machine at work isn't new enough to be able to boot from a USB device :( Although not a strict Debian solution, Knoppix is a debian-based bootable-CD that supports putting your home directory on a USB flash drive. Since you are unable to boot from USB directly, you'll need either a floppy or CD to access it. If you don't like some of the defaults of Knoppix (such as the KDE desktop by default), there are other 'live-CD' distros with different defaults. ~ Jesse Meyer -- icq:34583382 | Nethack 3.4._3_ is out! http://www.nethack.org jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And how can man die better / Than facing msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | fearful odds / For the ashes of his fathers / yim:tsunad | and the temples of his gods? ~ Babington pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
umask
Ich würd gern mal wissen, wie ich in der fstab meine umask setzen muss, damit ich auf mein vfat laufwerk schreiben kann. Greetz Jesse -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
NTFS Software Stripe-Set
Hallo, ich fahre im moment ein Windows 2000 System und zusammen damit auch noch debian. NUn habe ich lange nix mehr mit Linux gemacht und habe deshalb zwei Platten NTFS formatiert und als Software Raid deklariert (Stripe). Das Problem ist, dass ich jetzt langsam komplett auf Linux umsteigen möchte. Nun weiss ich aber nicht wie ich auf das Stripe-Set zugreifen kann. Und zum Auslagern sind es zuviele Daten (knapp 220GB). Deshalb würde ich gerne wissen ob es eine Möglichkeit gibt das Softraid zu beutzen (solange bis ich die Daten irgendwie auslagern kann). Ich habe versucht dir beiden PLatten als Softraid unter Linux laufen zu lassen. Hat auch wunderbar geklappt. Das Problem war nur, dass ich nicht auf das Dateisystem zugreifen konnte. Ich konnte es zwar als NTFS mounten, aber er sagte dann immer: Index 0x0 is not a valid Index-Block. Die genaue Fehlermeldung habe ich jetzt leider nicht zur Hand. Aber das war die Hauptaussage von cd Gruß Jesse Schlüter -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: Debian for enterprise
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Robert Soricone wrote: A computer network, that is currently using RedHat, is interested in migrating to another distribution. Preferably, by April 30 2004. *Looks into crystal ball* I predict that you are using Redhat 9. [RH9 end of life is on that day. RH7.x and RH8 is EoL'ed at the end of this year] If the group were to consider moving to Debian, what in-house work would need to be performed that was previously being done by the RH engineers? If your guys know linux, they shouldn't have a problem. If they only know Redhat, there will probably be a learning curve. If they only know Redhat-GUI, then that problem will be bigger then expected. Redhat does tend to make things easier for the inexperienced linux users. That's part of the RH package. Also, most commercial 'linux' packages seem to be developed for Redhat. Plesk, for example, only runs on FreeBSD and Redhat. The FAI package can duplicate the functionality of kickstart, but security is of primary concern. I need some specifics to argue in favor of adopting Debian, and what exactly it would entail. Can you point me in the right direction? =[PRO]= I find that the official Debian packages tend to be finer grained then the official Redhat packages. Last time I installed postfix on Redhat, I had to manually compile the rpms to get mysql enabled. Under Debian, I would have downloaded the postfix-mysql package and let Debian worry about the rest. Security updates for Debian-stable tend to be quick. Debian can easily use 'apt-get' or a similiar tool to quickly update the entire distribution to include all the latest security patches or to upgrade to a different version. Unless you are skipping several versions, distribution upgrades tend to go smoothly. Debian can be quickly stripped down to only include what you need. If you are comfortable working from the command line, a server can only include what you need. RH can also be set up this way, but I find it a lot harder to do. =[CON]= Debian-stable (the branch you want to be using for servers) tends to be several months to a year behind the bleeding edge. This bothers some people. For a server, I'd rather go with a tested solution then the bleeding edge, but others differ. Debian-testing (which some people use for their desktops) is more up to date, but the security updates tend to be slower. It also (rarely) breaks. There is no 'official' commercial support for Debian. Redhat (distribution) had Redhat (company) behind it. (Same company that dropped supporting the low-end consumer line, but it was still a company). [Links] 1) Debian home page: http://www.debian.org/ 2) Debian documentation: http://www.debian.org/doc/ 3) #debian IRC channel on freenode (good place for questions): irc://irc.freenode.org/debian 4) Knoppix live CD - a debian-based OS that runs entirely from the CD: http://www.knoppix.org/ -- icq:34583382 | Nethack 3.4.2 is out! http://www.nethack.org jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And how can man die better / Than facing msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | fearful odds / For the ashes of his fathers / yim:tsunad | and the temples of his gods? ~ Babington pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Installation Help: SATA Drive
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Justin Burke wrote: Hi All, I could use some help getting Debian installed on a new machine with a SATA drive. I've downloaded CD images for both sarge and sid, and both installation methods hang at the same point: Loading kernel modules Detected module 'ide-probe-mod' for 'Linux IDE probe driver' I have reason to believe that the system is hanging because of the SATA drive. I think that I need to use a 2.6.0 kernel. Is this right? How do I create an installation CD with a different kernel? Nope. But you might have to compile a custom kernel. Include the Silicon Image SATA drivers. Should be in the latest 2.4.x kernels. The following is a link to how to replace the boot floppy kernel: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-boot-floppy-techinfo.en.html#s-rescue-replace-kernel -- icq:34583382 | Nethack 3.4.2 is out! http://www.nethack.org jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And how can man die better / Than facing msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | fearful odds / For the ashes of his fathers / yim:tsunad | and the temples of his gods? ~ Babington pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Installing modem.
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Kent West wrote: Hoyt Bailey wrote: Yes, from dmesg: Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with MANY_PORTS SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI enabled ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A Redundant entry in serial pci_table. Please send the output of lspci -vv, this message (12b9,1008,12b9,00d3) and the manufacturer and name of serial board or modem board to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ttyS04 at port 0xd000 (irq = 19) is a 16550A It looks like you have two serial ports on your motherboard (00 01), in addition to your modem on 04. Apparently the PCI bus is getting confused somehow. You might want to go into the BIOS and temporarily disable the built-in serial ports, and see what that does for you. Same thing happens with my system: # Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with MANY_PORTS SHARE_IRQ # SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled # ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A # ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A # Redundant entry in serial pci_table. Please send the output of # lspci -vv, this message (12b9,1008,12b9,00aa) # and the manufacturer and name of serial board or modem board # to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # ttyS04 at port 0x7fe0 (irq = 10) is a 16550A Modem still works fine. What happens with the command: echo ATDT555-1234 /dev/ttyS3 Nothing absolutely nothing and I can hear my modem sending. Dont have another number I can call. This I don't understand; you say it's doing nothing absolutely nothing and then immediately say you hear the modem sending, which means it's doing something. Either it's doing nothing or it's doing something. Which is it? Since the grandparent poster has the same modem as mine, and my modem does not want to dial out by echoing that command to ttyS4, I would assume that it's the wrong way to debug the modem. Btw, if his dmesg log is correct, its ttyS4 he should be checking, not ttyS3, unless I am misunderstanding something. To debug, I would try these steps: 1) `wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf.test` 2) Assuming you get the line Found a modem on /dev/ttyS4 then continue, else post another message to debian user. 3) edit /etc/wvdial.conf.test and add in a null phone number (5551234) and uncomment the phone number, username, and password lines. 4) `wvdial --config /etc/wvdial.conf.test` 5) If you hear it dial, congrats, your modem is working. Try putting in your real phone number, username, and password. Then redo step #4. -- icq:34583382 | Nethack 3.4.2 is out! http://www.nethack.org jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And how can man die better / Than facing msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | fearful odds / For the ashes of his fathers / yim:tsunad | and the temples of his gods? ~ Babington pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: dvorak keyboard
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Nori Heikkinen wrote: i've been getting enough questions off-list (of a few lists, not just this one) about my experiences with the dvorak keyboard layout that i finally wrote them up: http://www.maenad.net/geek/dvorak/ in case anyone's interested. http://www.maenad.net/geek/dvorak/node24.html Last link 'dvorak.txt' seems dead. ~ Jesse Meyer -- icq:34583382 | Nethack 3.4.2 is out! http://www.nethack.org jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And how can man die better / Than facing msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | fearful odds / For the ashes of his fathers / yim:tsunad | and the temples of his gods? ~ Babington pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Installing modem.
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003, Hoyt Bailey wrote: wvdialconf would not run unless I did the following: wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf (or something like that) When it did run it only checked ttyS0 and ttyS1 plus some ports and didnt find the modem. However the modem shows up in KDE Control Center. Since I have the same modem, lets try this: - /etc/wvdial.conf - [Dialer Defaults] Phone = 5551234 Username = xxx Password = xxx New PPPD = yes Modem = /dev/ttyS4 Baud = 115200 Init1 = ATZ Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 C1 D2 +FCLASS=0 ISDN = 0 Modem Type = Analog Modem - (If you want to try this, may I suggest backing up the original /etc/wvdial.conf file first?) Hope that helps. I don't use KDE (this being a headless box) but rather pon/poff for my isp connection. -- icq:34583382 | Nethack 3.4.2 is out! http://www.nethack.org jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And how can man die better / Than facing msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | fearful odds / For the ashes of his fathers / yim:tsunad | and the temples of his gods? ~ Babington pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Installing modem.
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003, Hoyt Bailey wrote: I recieved my USR5610B and replaced the Intel winmodem. Turned on the computer and it dialed the ISP in Windows. So I said hey this is going to be easy. Went to U.S. Robitics website and no debian driver only RH, Mandrake, SUSE. [ ... snip discussion of trying to adapt rpm drivers ... ] I believe that's a controller based modem. An lspci (as root) should return something like this: [ ... other devices ... ] 00:0b.0 Serial controller: US Robotics/3Com 56K FaxModem Model 5610 (rev 01) If you see it, try a 'grep ttyS /var/log/dmesg'. You should get something like this: ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A ttyS04 at port 0x7fe0 (irq = 10) is a 16550A If you have three choices (like my system does) and ttyS00 and ttyS01 exists, those are probably the motherboard's serial ports. The odd man out is ttyS04 (which, oddly enough, is how my USR5610 set itself up as - com5 in dosland). Fire up wvdialconf, and see if it works. Report back if it doesn't. Remember, if you can hear it dial out, then the driver is probably working and you have the right serial port, if you can't connect, there is probably something wrong with your ppp configuration. Feel free to ask as many questions as you want, I seem to own the exact same model. Its a good modem, and stays connected for days when I want it to. :) ~ Jesse Meyer -- icq:34583382 | Nethack 3.4.2 is out! http://www.nethack.org jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And how can man die better / Than facing msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | fearful odds / For the ashes of his fathers / yim:tsunad | and the temples of his gods? ~ Babington pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Important] Limit on the number of users in a group?
Hi, when a group in /etc/group contains over 100 members, chgrp stops functioning properly when a _numeric_ group ID is passed as an argument. Note that this is a different situation then the 32 group limit that linux specifies in which a user may not be a part of more than 32 groups. This is when a group contains more than 100 or so users. Providing a group name as an argument works correctly in all cases. However, when the 100+ member group exists in /etc/group, providing a numeric group ID as an argument sends chgrp into an infinite loop eating up all available resources -- happens to render the 2.4.x OOM killer useless as well. I have recently upgraded from stable to testing, but I've only noticed this bug recently, and I am unsure if it has been there before. * * * RedHat has addressed a similar bug in April (see http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=82619). They have fixed the bug in the RHSA-2003:089-11 advisory (see http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2003-089.html). Is this a known bug in Debian? Please, reply all to this email. It is very important because this is a production machine (for lack of a better name) and provides real services to our users. Having the machine die because a script running from cron hits this bug is not nice on the weekends when no access to the machine can be obtained. Thank you, -Jesse -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
viewcvs from stable to testing
I've just upgraded a system from stable to testing and having worked out most of the other issues involved in such a huge upgrade but I can not seem to get viewcvs 0.9.2+cvs.1.0.dev.2003.05.05-3 to work correctly. Directory listings seem to work but that's about it. I thought it might be a problem with the allow_tar configuration because I didn't see the link anywhere after upgrading but even if I set it to 0 it still gives me trouble. The diff views do not even work correctly either ... Any help would greatly be appreciated. Could you CC me as I'm not subscribed to the lists? -Jesse Here is what I get at the bottom of everyone of my repositories: An Exception Has Occurred Python Traceback Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/python2.2/viewcvs/viewcvs.py, line 3067, in main run_viewcvs(server) File /usr/lib/python2.2/viewcvs/viewcvs.py, line 2987, in run_viewcvs view_directory_cvs(request) File /usr/lib/python2.2/viewcvs/viewcvs.py, line 1402, in view_directory_cvs generate_page(request, cfg.templates.directory, data) File /usr/lib/python2.2/viewcvs/viewcvs.py, line 396, in generate_page template.generate(sys.stdout, data) File /usr/lib/python2.2/viewcvs/ezt.py, line 233, in generate self._execute(self.program, fp, ctx) File /usr/lib/python2.2/viewcvs/ezt.py, line 348, in _execute step[0](step[1], fp, ctx) File /usr/lib/python2.2/viewcvs/ezt.py, line 388, in _cmd_if_any self._do_if(value, t_section, f_section, fp, ctx) File /usr/lib/python2.2/viewcvs/ezt.py, line 420, in _do_if self._execute(section, fp, ctx) File /usr/lib/python2.2/viewcvs/ezt.py, line 348, in _execute step[0](step[1], fp, ctx) File /usr/lib/python2.2/viewcvs/ezt.py, line 424, in _cmd_for list = _get_value(valref, ctx) File /usr/lib/python2.2/viewcvs/ezt.py, line 492, in _get_value raise UnknownReference(refname) UnknownReference: params -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Why does X need so much CPU power?
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003, Michael Heironimus wrote: X usually doesn't need much CPU power, as long as you have a reasonably well-supported video card. Your problem is that you're running GNOME and KDE, which are huge, bloated, and slow (and I'm being kind in saying that). They have been for a long time, since before their first 1.0 releases, and new versions seem to have been bloating even faster than new releases of Windows have been. I'm probably repeating yet-another-X-fallacy (such as the infamous `X is slow because it uses client/server architecture): Under the pre-2.6 vanilla Linux kernels, multitasking was orientated more towards servers - perhaps one process would be a little slow, but things would keep chugging along. With the low latency patches to 2.4 and the new code in 2.6, desktop machines are supposed to be more responsive, making X seem quicker. Again, please take the above with a grain of salt - I've heard it repeated several times, but I have never seen benchmarks to prove that latency is an issue. ~ Jesse Meyer [ Happily using fluxbox and liking X windows - working fine for me with 1 server and client programs on 2 machines. ] -- Nifty linux app: bitlbee : use your favorite IRC client to interface with aim, icq, msn messenger and yim (www.lintux.cx/bitlbee.html) icq: 34583382msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]yim: tsunad pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] Why does X need so much CPU power?
On Wed, 03 Sep 2003, Joyce, Matthew wrote: There have been computer games for as long as there have been computers. [quibble] The first computers were not driven by electricity. Why don't you take a history lesson first before commenting on computers and computer games? [/quibble] -- Nifty linux app: bitlbee : use your favorite IRC client to interface with aim, icq, msn messenger and yim (www.lintux.cx/bitlbee.html) icq: 34583382msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]yim: tsunad pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: X-Terminal laptops?
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, steve downes wrote: on Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 12:26:57AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: I'm amazed nobody's come up with x terminals in laptop form factor... It's a cost versus quantity thing. I've been using an old dell P133 laptop with the hard disc removed as a silent laptop ltsp for a few months now it's great. But buying new I couldn't have bought the screen or a terminal without a screen for what I paid for the dell. Are you booting off the floppy then, or does your laptop support some sort of network boot? Incidentally, how much memory does the laptop have as well? ~ Jesse Meyer -- Nifty linux app: bitlbee : use your favorite IRC client to interface with aim, icq, msn messenger and yim (www.lintux.cx/bitlbee.html) icq: 34583382msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]yim: tsunad pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature