Call for testing: New PHP 5.3 debian packages
(Please excuse the gratuitous cross-post) Now that PHP 5.3 has been officially released[1], the Debian PHP packaging team would like to announce the availability of PHP 5.3 packages for initial public testing. The packages are currently available for both amd64 and i386 users of testing/unstable, via the experimental release section of the debian packaging archive. To install these packages on your system, add the following line to /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main you should then be able to install these packages with apt-get install -t experimental php5 (and you can replace php5 with a more specific package selection of course) DISCLAIMER: You should not install these packages on a production system, until they have recieved wider testing and review. I have given the packages limited local testing but due to the nature of the 5.3 upgrade it's possible that you may have problems with either the packaging or one of the many changes in this update! As time progresses we may set up an alternate location dedicated for php5.3 related packages, depending on demand, how many additional packages we need to rebuild for testing (all debian packages that build against the php API/ABI need to be updated) and how long we delay the transition to 5.3 in debian unstable. I should emphasize that we don't have plans to transition to PHP 5.3 in debian testing/unstable in the immediate future; at least not until we feel comfortable that the packages and software are reasonably stable and tested. So if you want to see this happen faster the best thing you can do is report to us with your problems (and successes!) using these packages. Please forward any and all feedback/problems to the Debian PHP team's mailing list[2] and if you're convinced that there's a problem, the debian bug tracking system[3] and/or the PHP bug tracking system[4] depending on who you think should get the blame :). Sean Finney (and the rest of the Debian PHP Maintainers) [1] http://www.php.net/archive/2009.php#id2009-06-30-1 [2] pkg-php-ma...@lists.alioth.debian.org [3] reportbug php5 [4] http://bugs.php.net signature.asc Description: Digital signature
new beta packages for cacti/spine(former cacti-cactid) available
hello debian-user, for those of you who use cacti I've prepared some packages of the beta4 release of cacti/spine 0.8.7 (for spine, i386 and amd64 builds), which are now available for general testing and feedback. The easiest way to upgrade is to put: deb http://people.debian.org/~seanius/cacti/beta ./ into your /etc/apt/sources.list, and run apt-get update for users who don't already have cacti installed, they can then do: apt-get install cacti mysql-server and to install spine: apt-get install spine for users who have cacti (but not cacti-cactid) already installed: apt-get upgrade for users who have cacti and cacti-cactid installed: apt-get dist-upgrade is needed, to transition from cacti-cactid to the new spine package. i'll make a best effort to keep this repository up to date with any future releases between now and the official 0.8.7 release, and any feedback you might have about problems/errors/etc is welcome. sean -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: compiling a kernel
hey joris, here's the first three steps i recommend: # apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.20 # apt-get install kernel-package $ cd /usr/share/doc/kernel-package (if you're running woody, you want kernel-source-2.4.18 i believe) debian really treats you well with kernel-compiling utilities and documentation. search back in this mailing list for make-kpkg, there've been several howto's (and good kernel newbie doc links) posted... good luck sean On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 11:35:10PM -0800, Joris Huizer wrote: Hello everybody, As I want scsi emulation, and I'm missing the sr_mod module, I think I'll have to compile a new kernel. What do I need to do for this, exactly? I'll have to get the source, ofcourse, but next to that ? I know allready before the compiling many hardware issues are going to asked. I tried compiling the kernel once before, but I gave up then as I had the feeling I new much too little to answer everything correctly As I don't know that much on the hardware details, how can I get a more or less complete list of hardware features ? For example, I do know 'uname -a' will get me some info on the debian kernel version (currently that's 2.2.20) Could you please tell me some more commands like this one which will give more info about other issues, like mouse, keyboard, etc - the more the better I imagine, as the prog will ask loads of things Thanks for any help, Joris Huizer __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Should I upgrade my kernel?
hiya, On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 07:57:35PM -0800, robert marley wrote: i am trying to reset my pW with some great amount of difficulty (to me). i have this kernel,, is it possible the box has been compromised? see my post - its been up so long_ root is jello if you haven't given anyone access to your machine (either physically, or with a login account), then i'd wager that you're safe. if you have, and are having password trouble, that may be a different story... sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Starting a program in a specific virtual terminal
hi leo, On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 08:25:57PM -0800, Leo Spalteholz wrote: Hi, I wanted to run a certain program (darkstat) at boot but I want it to run in verbose mode and display the output in one of the other virtual terminals so I can ALT-Fx to it.. I've got it starting at boot but how can I specify the VT it starts in? take a look at the rungetty package, and replace the appropriate entry in /etc/inittab. take a look at: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/debian-user-200302/msg05557.html hth sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Kernel Upgrade
On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 08:41:08AM -0700, Brian Gonzales wrote: While updating my kernel, the installer advises to add initrd=/initrd.img to the image=/vmlinuz portion of lilo.conf. After which, I run lilo and get the following error: debian:/etc# lilo Fatal: open /initrd.img: No such file or directory I don't have SCSI, but my drives are ATA100 (recognized as hde hdf). you only want to add that line to lilo.conf if you kernel is an initrd-enabled kernel. if you don't have an initrd.img in either / or in /boot, i would wager that you don't, and that you don't need the line. and if you do need it, disabling it and booting is probably the easiest way to find out :) (don't forget to leave yourself another way to boot before you do this though!) sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: limiting hard drive space for a user..
On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 09:19:48AM +1000, Ross Tsolakidis wrote: Hi all, Newbie question I know, But how can I limit a users home dir to certain amount of hard drive space ? Is it possible ? yup. take a look at the quota and quotatool packages, and the documentation that comes with them. hth sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: undelete
On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 12:06:06AM -0500, Jeremiah Foster wrote: I have foolishly deleted a file I did not want to. It was created this morning, so it is not backed up. is there an undelete util ? i've definitely been in these shoes before. it may be too late depending on how active your filesystem is. here's what i'd try, fingers crossed. a - unmount the filesystem!!! if it's at all possible, unmount it, stop writing to it! you can also remount it read-only if you must. if you can't do that (like if it's in /var or something), boot up from a floppy disk or knoppix cd or something. once you're able to do this, you can take a deep breath, because if it's safe, it will now stay safe, and if it's not, then it's already gone and you can't do anything about it. b - read up on documentation for debugfs. when you delete a file, it's contents aren't actually deleted (that'd be a waste of cpu and disk access), instead, the inodes for your files are simply returned to a pool of deleted inodes, which may at some point be used again for another file (after which, you're basically SOL if you don't have 5 digits to spend and a professional cpu forensics lab) if you're lucky though, these inodes have remained undisturbed, and you can get them back with debugfs. i won't go into the details of the program, but it comes with some good documentation and googling should fill in the rest of the blanks. you should be able to use it to get a list of deleted inodes, which you can then dump to another filesystem, which you can then grep for your precious data. good luck... sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Should I upgrade my kernel?
hi roberto, is this machine for your own personal use, or have you given accounts on it to other people? if the case is the former, and it works fine for you for what you need, i don't think you need to bother (though it is definitely a worthwhile learning experience[1]). however, if you give other people access to this machine, you should _definitely_ upgrade, because there's a root-priviledge security hole in that kernel[2]. hth sean [1] take a look at the docs that come with the kernel-package package [2] search back in the archives for ptrace. here's the first ref. i found to it: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/debian-user-200303/msg04042.html On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 12:04:22PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: I am running Woody with 2.4.18-bf2.4 kernel. I am wondering if I should bother upgrading my kernel? If there is no point to upgrading now, what should I look for that will make it worthwhile? I realize this is a pretty basic question, but I am still working to understand all the intricacies of Linux (i.e., I never had to worry about upgrading the kernel in Windows ;) I would appreciate any advice on this. -Roberto Sanchez _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Should I upgrade my kernel?
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 01:08:51PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: Both of my machines are for my personal use (1 desktop and 1 laptop). Your mention of a root exploit makes me worry though, since my desktop is connected to the internet 24/7 by a DSL modem. don't worry if you haven't given anyone an account on your machine. it's a local exploit only, meaning they have to have login access before it can be exploited. sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: KNOPPIX as an installer for Debian
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 09:56:05AM -0800, Craig Dickson wrote: (from a knoppix boot up) # fdisk /dev/hda # mkdir /target (mount all the hard drive partitions into /target, /target/usr, etc...) # debootstrap sid /target (you can do woody instead of sid if you want stable) # chroot /target dpkg -a --configure # chroot /target # apt-get install stuff (don't forget to include a linux kernel and run lilo) What is the advantage of doing it this way from Knoppix rather than just booting from a Debian install CD? Is it just that you can set up a sid system directly, without having to install stable or testing first? it autoconfigures itself, you can sit on a kde desktop, listen to your favorite ogg vorbis collection over an smbmount (or streaming from the net), and play a few rounds of frozen-bubble while you wait :) sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: KNOPPIX as an installer for Debian
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 02:11:31PM -0800, Craig Dickson wrote: I must be failing to understand something here. Knoppix will certainly autoconfigure itself when it boots off the CD, but I don't see anything that causes that configuration to be remembered for later when you boot your new Debian installation directly from the hard disk. Nor do I see well again, this was a I know what the hell i'm doing approach, meaning i already knew what i needed to do to get the system up and running. it doesn't bring over the autoconfiguration stuff, and yes, i'm sure i glossed over a few details (like compiling my own kernel package + nvidia, both of which i did in the chroot while still on the boot cd). the autoconfiguration i was talking about had more to do with the boot-off-of-cd process, such that it could boot me into a fully functional X-windows KDE system with sound and games and internet etc, to keep myself occupied whilst the system debootstrapped. sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: possible IDE hard disk problem
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 10:29:04AM -0500, David Roundy wrote: My kernel is 2.4.20, which I compiled just recently, so another Prior to this kernel I was on 2.4.17, I believe. For the moment I've out of curiosity, has the value for CONFIG_IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE changed between these two kernels? also, have you tried messing around with hdparm at all (perhaps finishing that backup first is in order:)? sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Bug#184764: libvorbis0a? in unstable
On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 03:37:21PM -0800, Brian Nelson wrote: sean finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It won't be uploaded soon because, at the moment, the maintainer doesn't have access to a computer. uhoh. none at all? like, could we at least get in touch to get an ok for an nmu? sounds like the new packages work for folks, i built mine from the version in deb-src lists of testing and will hold off upgrading till the fix rolls out :) Also, the fix unfortunately isn't so trivial. Previously, the ew, right. versioned depends sure would be nice right around now :) sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Bug#184764: libvorbis0a? in unstable
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 02:59:29AM -0500, sean finney wrote: uhoh. none at all? like, could we at least get in touch to get an ok for an nmu? sounds like the new packages work for folks, i built mine from the version in deb-src lists of testing and will hold off upgrading till the fix rolls out :) turns out, hindsight comes on quick at 3am... all the software i want to install want libvorbis0a, not libvorbis0. wah. i'll go check out the new versions :) sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: xv (graphics package)
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 01:57:56PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I seem to recall that the xv package (graphics viewer / editor) by John Bradley was formerly included in an earlier distribution (potato, maybe?). It doesn't seem to be in the current distributions. Does anyone know if it is available any longer as a debian package? Maybe I'm not looking in the right place. i think the upstream author forbade binary redistributions of his software... sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: libvorbis0a? in unstable
On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 12:46:13PM -0500, Shawn Lamson wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 11:04:45AM -0500, sean finney wrote: has a discussion it looks like. anyone have an idea when a fix is going to go in? there's all kinds of packages i can't install from my fresh unstable install because of this. Look upthread for a URL pointing you to the packages likely to go into sid to solve this. They work for me. They work for me too, however, won't updated packages overwrite (replace) the supplemental ones I installed from that site: http://people.debian.org/~pyro/libvorbis ? if this fix is as trivial as it seems, why hasn't it been uploaded yet? i don't mean to be getting cranky, but i can't install at least half a dozen packages because of this... so... is this happening any time soon, or should i put in some testing lines (the package is still in testing, right?) to fix this on my box? sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: libvorbis0a? in unstable
hiya, On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 04:35:33AM -0500, Shawn Lamson wrote: It sounds like it should. If it does, you should send your solution to the libvorbis maintainer, since the current situation is less than ideal. Did anyone ever file a bug about this? #184764: libvorbis0a: Sould not conflicts with libvorbis0 has a discussion it looks like. anyone have an idea when a fix is going to go in? there's all kinds of packages i can't install from my fresh unstable install because of this. sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Samba, rsync, home network w/ XP, backups?
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 03:33:01PM -0500, Barry Mathieu wrote: Any idea on how to set-up XP Pro to accept smbmount? The XP Pro machine is named, 'red_hat'. Here's what happens when I try to list the shares on red_hat from my debian machine, 'debian': [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ smbclient -L red_hat added interface ip=192.168.0.3 bcast=192.168.0.255 nmask=255.255.255.0 error connecting to 192.168.0.2:139 (Connection refused) Error connecting to 192.168.0.2 (Connection refused) Connection to red_hat failed try: smbclient -L //red_hat -Wyourworkgroupname -Uusername hth sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: NFS hangs??
On Sat, Mar 15, 2003 at 10:26:58PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: As to the original trouble, check out the errors that are undoubtedly occurring in /var/log/syslog. Try running tcpdump at the same time and see if there is a clue as to why you are hanging. Run 'showmount -e servername' and see that you are allowed access. hmm... okay, _after_ the thing fails (and the stuff is mounted) i have: in client's messages: Mar 15 20:09:04 sativa kernel: portmap: server localhost not responding, timed o ut Mar 15 20:14:19 sativa kernel: portmap: server localhost not responding, timed o ut Mar 15 20:19:34 sativa kernel: portmap: server localhost not responding, timed o ut in client's syslog: Mar 15 20:03:21 sativa kernel: lockd_down: no lockd running. Mar 15 20:09:04 sativa kernel: portmap: server localhost not responding, timed o ut Mar 15 20:14:19 sativa kernel: portmap: server localhost not responding, timed o ut Mar 15 20:19:34 sativa kernel: portmap: server localhost not responding, timed o ut Mar 15 20:29:15 sativa kernel: portmap: server localhost not responding, timed o ut Mar 15 20:34:30 sativa kernel: portmap: server localhost not responding, timed o ut ooh, and this looks interesting, kern.log: === Mar 15 19:13:39 sativa kernel: lockd_up: makesock failed, error=-5 Mar 15 19:18:54 sativa kernel: portmap: server localhost not responding, timed o ut Mar 15 20:03:21 sativa kernel: lockd_down: no lockd running. Mar 15 20:09:04 sativa kernel: portmap: server localhost not responding, timed o ut Mar 15 20:14:19 sativa kernel: portmap: server localhost not responding, timed o ut Mar 15 20:19:34 sativa kernel: portmap: server localhost not responding, timed o ut error -5... i can find the spot in the kernel code where it's happening: /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.20/fs/lockd/svc.c:253 failing to create a socket? but why... anyway, maybe i'll get lucky messing around with some mount options, and otherwise i'll look into tcpdump, and showmount, and report back in a bit... (in the meantime, using smbfs for my needs...) thanks sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Auto apt-get upgrade
On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 09:55:38AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:24:33 + (GMT) Rus Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suppose you really meant apt-get update apt-get upgrade? There's nothing at all wrong with doing update in a cron job, since that just fetches the newest packages lists. Doing upgrade by cron? shudder i like what cron-apt does by default though. it runs update, and then runs the download-only portion of upgrade. that way, when you decide it's time to upgrade, you already have the packages. sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: making nvidia drivers
hi john, On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 09:39:59AM -0800, John F. wrote: I don't really think you need to have a .deb pkg to do that since you're 'patching' the kernel. However enter Nvidia_kernel dir and type 'make install', then go to Nvidia_glx and do the same. Then you have to edit the XFREE config file as stated in the nividia installation guide on nvidia site. i don't think this is correct. at the bottom of this email are some instructions that i posted a few months ago on this list. all else failing, don't forget to look in /usr/share/doc/packagename, there are good instructions there. sean - roll your own kernel with make-kpkg, or at least install the kernel-headers package for your kernel version (after extracting the kernel source/headers to /usr/src/linux) # cd /usr/src/linux make-kpkg binary (there will be .debs in /usr/src after that. OR...) # apt-get install kernel-headers-2.x.x - install the following packages: # apt-get install nvidia-glx-src nvidia-kernel-src - extract the nvidia module source # cd /usr/src tar xvfz nvidia-kernel-src.tar.gz - build the kernel module for the nvidia card # cd /usr/src/linux make-kpkg modules_image - then in /usr/src you should have a .deb package for nvidia kernel # cd /usr/src dpkg -i nvidia-kernel-2.x.x_rev_i386.deb - then install the glx stuff # cd /usr/src/nvidia-glx_version dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc - go back to /usr/src, and install everything that starts with nvidia-glx and ends with .deb - finally, reconfigure X, which i strongly recommend that you do with debconf # dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 there should be a new driver entry when it asks you for your video card driver, like nvidia or nvdriver or something (not nv), choose that, and you should be on your way. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: making nvidia drivers
On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 11:13:35AM -0800, John F. wrote: I looked at that, but the part with make-kpkg modules_image seems like it is starting to compile a new kernel. I don't know, but most of the questions I was being asked made no sense to me, I'm still kinda a newbie after a year and a half in Linux. I don't know what I'm supposed to do. take a look at my instructions, skip the step about making the kernel and instead install the kernel-headers package that matches your installed kernel (uname -r). you may need to do ln -s kernel-headers-`uname -r` linux in /usr/src too, i haven't used kernel-headers in a while... and this is assuming you haven't compiled your own kernel. the rest of the steps should work after that sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How do I get the install disks to recognize my network?
hiya, On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 06:13:52PM -0500, John Fisher wrote: Good afternoon. I am having a problem installing Debian (my first install of any Linux, actually) and was hoping someone might be able to render assistance. congrats, and good luck, hope you enjoy the ride :) Due to lack of funds and lack of access to CD-burner, I was hoping to use the Floppies / net install option to install to my new comp ( Intel D845GBV moterboard with onboard LAN ). do you know what chipset it is? i would guess that it's an ether express card of some kind because the mobo is intel, so try ctrl-alt-d2 to get a root prompt during install, and running modprobe eepro100 then ifconfig eth0 if eth0 shows up, you should be good. if not, you might need to try other modules. they should be located in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/ Seems to be working up until the installation of base system, where there is no 'Network' option. No prob, I figure, so I go to configure modules and find whatever one I'll need so it can use my onboard ethernet info. But nothing there seems to be right, and when I guess, they all seem to fail. Any thoughts? Please? also, you said that this is your first install of linux. i'd really recommend taking the time to download and burn yourself a knoppix cd (also based off of debian). it's sort of like a sneak peak at how sweet your system can be once you've got it up and running, and you can use it to more robustly determine what devices etc. you have installed on your system (lspci is really helpful for this). hth sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: make menuconfig fails
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 02:14:47PM +1100, Russell Shaw wrote: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lncurses collect2: ld returned 1 exit status apt-get install libncurses5-dev (iirc) and while you're at it, apt-get install kernel-package man make-kpkg (this is a really, really cool utility for making kernel packages) hth sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: nvidia follow-up and new question
heya, On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 06:49:21PM -0800, John F. wrote: Okay, I got the driver to work through some secret methods (downloading a tar file and compiling), but now I need to know how to change the PAM settings, because when I try to run something like tuxracer, I get the following: you did it the nvidia way as opposed to the Debian Way, you mean? did the directions i posted not work? that's too bad... anyway, your solution is to add yourself to the video group. you can do this with the vigr program (if you know how to use vi), or perhaps some invocation of the adduser command, or maybe just editing the /etc/group file, adding your username after the colon for the video group. if you really don't care, you can just chmod 666 /dev/nvidia* (evil...) and never have this problem, but the best way is to add yourself to the video group (and add yourself to the audio and cdrom groups while you're at it), and then log out and log back in to your x session. regards sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Download accelerator
On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 08:44:07PM -0800, nate wrote: Trey Sizemore said: Looking for a good download accelerator (similar to...Download Accelerator...). What are some of the favorites out there. is download accelerator one of those tools that tricks users into thinking their connection is faster? no, it actually does make stuff go faster. it's a pretty nice utility, if you find yourself stuck on a win32 box. it does multiple gets in parallel, and it also has support for downloading the same file from multiple mirrors as well to help eliminate bottlenecks. I use wget for most of my downloading needs, runs on the console so I can fire it within screen so it's in the background, and it supports auto resume, mirroring, and tons more features. wget is a gold standard as far as that goes. however, some sites do alter their content if they see that you're getting stuff from them with wget. of course, you can always get by that by specifying your own user-agent string (cmdline option, naturally). also, a program i've recently started using is puf (apt-get install puf), which does something similar with parallel fetching, though i don't think there's any browser plugin support for it. sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Removing CRONTAB jobs
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 06:33:50AM +0100, n/a wrote: I've just set up a firewall for some students, now it's late and i'm still awake and this machine is making a lot of noise. Are there any crontab jobs i surely should NOT remove ? in general, i think most the crontabs are there for a reason. for example, the find job (probably the noisiest of them all), updates the database that the locate command uses for finding stuff. if the noise keeps you up at night, i guess you could disable it, but then don't expect locate to be too helpful in a couple weeks. also, you can change the frequency of any of these jobs by moving them from /etc/cron.daily to /etc/cron.weekly if you really want. hth sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Samba, rsync, home network w/ XP, backups?
hi barry, On Sat, Mar 15, 2003 at 01:33:43PM -0500, Barry Mathieu wrote: I think rsync is the correct application for such a task; is this correct? I don't want try to redesign the wheel and I think many others have passed this way before. I'm a bit confused by the rysnc documentation - it doesn't appear to be used for interfacing using SMB. i can think of a couple ways of doing this, depending on your desired level of security, and whether or not you want to regularly automate it or just manually run it every now and then. a ] share your entire xp drive (ew...), smbmount it onto the woody box, and then just rsync -a between two directories (i wouldn't recommend that as an automated solution, leaving your entire drive shared is bad...) b ] install cygwin on your xp box, and through cygwin install rsync, cron, and ssh. then, rsync the directories when you want, just like you would on another linux box (this assumes you know how crontabs work if you want to automate it). (probably the better solution, but if you want to automate it you'll need to learn about pubkey authentication) hth sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
NFS hangs??
hi -users, i'm running with two unstable boxes, one as an nfs client and the other as a server. when i try and connect from a client, it hangs indefinitely, and not only that, doesn't respond to backgrounding with ^Z or die with ^C. not surprisingly, it also does not respond to any signal delivered via kill. at some point later (maybe 5, 10 minutes), it looks like it finally recieves one of the 5000 kill signals i sent it, and dies. now the REALLY strange part... after it dies, the directory is mounted! does anyone know what's going on here? umount does not seem to have these problems afterwards, either. i had this problem about a year ago too, and thought it had to do with mismatched nfs kernel implementations, but now it seems like it's not. here's the relevant info: exports on the server: /usr/local/music192.168.0.0/24(ro,sync) kernel settings on the server: CONFIG_NFS_FS=m CONFIG_NFS_V3=y # CONFIG_ROOT_NFS is not set CONFIG_NFSD=m CONFIG_NFSD_V3=y # CONFIG_NFSD_TCP is not set # CONFIG_NCPFS_NFS_NS is not set from the server's log: Mar 15 20:25:53 balthasar rpc.mountd: authenticated mount request from 192.168.0 .99:802 for /usr/local/music (/usr/local/music) kernel settings on the client: CONFIG_NFS_FS=m CONFIG_NFS_V3=y # CONFIG_ROOT_NFS is not set CONFIG_NFSD=m CONFIG_NFSD_V3=y # CONFIG_NFSD_TCP is not set # CONFIG_NCPFS_NFS_NS is not set any help would be greatly appreciated. sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: wget usage help, please
hey stan, On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 09:48:28AM -0500, stan wrote: I;ve tried thinhs likke --mirrot and --convert-links, but I wind up having wget chase loinks all over the web. How can I restrict it to jsut follow links on this site itseelf? i usually use wget -m for this, which is the same as --mirror. so i'm not sure where your problem is coming from. if you are still getting links from other hosts, i guess you can explicitly say which domains to follow with the -D option (man wget for the desc.). hth, sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux
hey roberto, like the other post said, really, i don't know how much of a chance you have for convincing them. that doesn't mean it isn't worth a shot though. i think your best bet is downloading and burning a knoppix iso, and when they get their new shiny computer, put it in and see what they think. it's effectively an entire debian system running off of cd (so they you don't endanger their dear, dear MS stuff), and if they like it, it's a rather painless install off of cd onto the hard drive. sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian Boot Process
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 10:01:02AM -0800, Kris wrote: Ok I am trying to do some fancy stuff and need to know how the debian 2.4.18 boot process works. Ok ouch I will compare. If for example I wanted to know the step by step process of an msdos system I would say something like okay, so - boot sector gets read from hard drive, instructs bios to load in kernel from specified location. - kernel load ups, uses initrd if configured (and loads up modules found in initrd if needed) - kernel mounts real root filesystem (ro), reads in /etd/modules, and loads those modules. - kernel spawns off init - the rest is in /usr/share/doc/sysvinit/README.runlevels.gz hth sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: using white noise for cryptography
hey martin, On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 11:43:54PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: 1. is there already a package that enables this? not that i know of. 2. is there a way to inject bytes into the entropy pool of the linux kernel? yeah, at least as a module. don't know about from userland. basically you declare a device as being able to contribute to the random entropy pool, and give a means for doing so (i don't recall if you have to actually patch the kernel or not, i can look into this tomorrow when i have my hands on a linux kernel book) 3. how can i read the data from the microphone? it's being amplified by my soundcard, but cat'ing /dev/dsp gives nothing really (well, the same byte repeatadly). you can read from it with rec (in the sox package). i used it a couple days ago to record audio from a cassette being pumped into the mic jack. the trouble is, i don't know how to read from it and have it not come out the speakers (i turned themic up, and the master volume down when recording). then again, you hardly need the mic on at all for this, because if you're talking about what i think you're talking about, you get your random entropy from normalizing the amplified white noise, right? sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Problem with perl locale
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 03:21:03PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've tried to: 1) regenerate locale via locale-gen; 2) re-install locales package. To no avail! I can't make head or tail of it. Please help have you tried: dpkg-reconfigure locales ? it prompts you for a list of the locales you want to generate. sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SIS900 DCHP Problem
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 03:47:51PM +0100, Robert Epprecht wrote: I am not the guy you talk about, but with kernel 2.4.18 dmesg said: sis900.c: v1.08.02 11/30/2001 eth0: Error EERPOM read I was told, that the reason was the driver not able to read the mac address on the card. I had to update to kernel 2.4.20 and switch ACPI off to get sis900 running. (The ACPI stuff seems to be related to my motherboard). yeah, that's the error i was talking about. you can tell because of the typho (should be EEPROM, not EERPROM). do you still get that message? i wrote a patch for it that i believe works, but i don't have a card to test it on :) sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: your mail
(don't forget your Subject: line in the future, most people aren't reatding this email because there isn't one) On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 10:31:53AM -0600, linux stuff wrote: ssl question: i have a debian box w/apache, mysql, php, etc, running just fine ... now a client requires secure sockets ... one place i read (aboutdebian.com) made it sound impossibly difficult to set up ... is that true? or is there a HOWTO that could help an beginning/intermediate admin succeed? or should i give up? all help appreciated apt-get remove apache apt-get install apache-ssl or have i missed something? i did this on my box for my own ssl based needs, and it's really just a drop-in replacement. if you have complicated configs, you might have to spend some time merging them into your new config directory (/etc/apache-ssl) but otherwise it's a piece of cake. hth sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Re: Problem with perl locale
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 05:16:08PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dpkg-reconfigure locales YES, the same result as locale-gen. It seems to finish correctly but it simply doesn't work... and you selected your language, and it generated it? that's odd. what's in: /etc/locale.gen and what's the output of 'env'? sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Kernel panic: No init found.
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 01:09:50PM -0500, Reid Mumford wrote: EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem). VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. change_root: old root has d_count=1 Trying to unmount old root ... okay Freeing unused kernel memory: 156k freed Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel Any ideas on how to save this system without having to reinstall? try booting up with init=/bin/sh and see if you can get yourself a root prompt. if so, you're golden. you might need to reinstall some packages (like sysvinit), and i don't know what the easiest way is to find packages that might have corrupted files though. hth sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Setting Static IP Adreess, done...now setup Apt-Get
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 02:45:02PM -0800, CM Miller wrote: Thanks to everyone who helped me setup the static ipaddress. I can now ping and do loopback. The only problem is that now I ran /usr/sbin/apt-setup and it cannot resolve any of the www addresses that I select. any ideas why? can you ping ip addresses? for example, can you ping 216.239.33.101 ? (that's www.google.com) if so, you're only missing entries for your DNS name servers from your ISP. once you have those, put them in /etc/resolv.conf like: nameserver 192.168.0.1 where 192.168.0.1 is replaced with your name server, naturally. hth, sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: considered harmful (was [off topic] Learning Shell from an old UNIX book)
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 06:45:15AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not convinced. As the article itself points out, there are workarounds for the perceived weaknesses of csh. And why pick on the granddaddy, when the grandson is very much alive and kickin? I've been using tcsh for both my scripts and its more user-friendly shell. Admittedly I don't unleash them unto the world. But I know of at least one big project that uses tcsh scripting, OpenOffice.org. i think one of the points of shell scripting is to be as portable as possible, and nothing is more portable in the world of shell scripting than /bin/sh... afaik *csh is horribly inconsistant wrt POSIX compliance, and there are even parts that can be optionally compiled POSIX-compliant and non-compliant... that suggests one could get some nasty headaches on different vendor's implementations of *csh. sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SIS900 DCHP Problem
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 10:49:21PM +0100, Robert Epprecht wrote: yeah, that's the error i was talking about. you can tell because of the typho (should be EEPROM, not EERPROM). do you still get that message? no good, maybe it's already fixed in upstream then... I could try starting the old kernel which would probably give us back the error ;-) (Currently I'm on another machine, but I can try tomorrow) If I can help in testing your patch please tell me. eh. unless someone else is still actively having that problem, i say let sleeping patches lie. you'd have to recompile a kernel or module, and it looks like it's already been fixed upstream... sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Package system vs. source vs. both
hey radek, i used to be real gung-ho on rolling my own everything, since i much of what i first learned about adminning was on a solaris box. after a while though, you'll find it gets really, really annoying when you want to upgrade (or lord forbid, remove) software. configuring X in debian is one of the weak points of the distribution at present imho (though that actually says a lot of good about debian, if you think about it), but i think it's worth your time to try and get it configured the Debian Way, and installed via the package management system. if you haven't already, try to get it working via dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 iirc it even asks you what level of expertise you want it to assume that you have wrt configuring X. otherwise, if compiling from source magically makes it work, perhaps you should try compiling the xserver-xfree86 package from source. you can do this with apt-get -b source xserver-xfree86 though you may still have to install its dependencies, this will build you the xserver package from source. this way you still the benefits of a .deb that you can install on your system. hth sean On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 10:36:04AM -0500, Radek Zajkowski wrote: Here is a problem, I could not get the X to run from the packages on my machine. It either would not configure, hang during configuration or refuse to accept my settings. I am not an advanced user, therefore I often have no facility to trace these kind of issues. As a result I downloaded the binaries of Xfree and it runs as a charm. I compiled Emacs and my crappy pentium200 is now a bit more friendly, or at least it offers the alternative to terminal. Although initially this was a matter of curiosity, X runs very smoothly and I would like to keep it, and enrich it with more software. The problem I have created here is rather obvious, the package manager doesn't know I have X libraries on my system and therefore, anything requiring Xlibs will not install, since it forces the dependecies to be configured as well. You probably get the rest of the story. I would like to find out from you some of the experiences and tactics you might be employing when dealing with the package systems. Is it packages or sources all the way, or are hybribds a common thing? Thanks, R -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [off topic] Learning Shell from an old UNIX book
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 05:41:46PM +0200, Aryan Ameri wrote: Hi There: 1 ) Can this book be beneficial for me? or is it so obsolete that it is not usefull anymore? i would say this makes it even *more* useful. personally, i do all my scripting in /bin/sh (that's the Bourne shell), because that's really the only thing you're guaranteed to have on a UNIX system. this is, of course, if portability is at all a concern of yours. imho, there is a zen to sh scripting, and staying with such an approach will gain you much. The book shows examples for all of these tree shells. Therefore I wonder 2 ) Bash is more similar to which one of these Shells? Korn Bourne or C ? Bash is the Bourne Again shell, if that's at all a subtle hint :). 3) What things shall I keep in mind when reading example programs. Do commads on Korn, Bourne and C, usually work on Bash? Or is Bash using a completely diffrent syntax? ksh and bash will likely be the same for your needs and uses, but csh is horribly, horribly different and you shouldn't be coding in it anyways, you should be avoiding it like the plague... sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mirroring apt repositories?
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 09:14:20AM +, Colin Watson wrote: Sure, but debmirror doesn't need to do directory indexing because it uses Packages files to figure out what to download, so that's irrelevant. Bug #154364 contains a patch which adds HTTP support (I haven't tried it myself). aww.. serves me right for not checking bts first... i just got it working :( sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: wtf? (long and frustrated)
(breaking the in-reply-to header, since this is really a different topic) On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 11:49:03AM -0700, Glenn English wrote: When the installer says, Have fun, and reboots, the screen blinks a couple times, and a curses dialog box comes up saying it can't run X, telling me why, and offering to run the X configuration program - that's cool. I say, Yes, and a program starts - IN X!!! This is not funny, folks; it's sadistic. heh, oops, sorry, wasn't supposed to laugh :) okay, let's do a little triage here. mouse: in a console, run gpmconfig. if you can get the mouse going in console mode, you're set. i don't know enough about your setup to know what kind of mouse you have, but i'd guess ps2. when it asks you about repeating, tell it you want to repeat raw (w/out quotes). X: log in on a console and try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and let debconf take you through the configuration. i find it's the best way if you don't want to mess around with config files yourself. to get your mouse working, if you got it working on the console, give it /dev/gpmdata for your mouse device. PCMCIA: assuming you have a default debian kernel, you should install the pcmcia-modules package for your kernel version, and then the pcmcia-cs package. works pretty well in my experience. sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: about matrix text editing
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 04:02:47AM +0900, Youichi Mano wrote: a 1957111 b 1902222 c 2001111 i.e. the output will be a 1957111 c 2001111 grep -E '^[a-z]+[[:space:]]+[0-9]+[[:space:]]+111$' yourfile ? i think what might be slowing it down is the -P you're passing to grep. hth, sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Newbie questions
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 08:43:24PM +0100, Inge Thorin Eidsaether wrote: 1 - I keep getting console messages about 'eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full duplex, lpa 0x41E1' and 'eth0: link down'. These two messages alternate regularly. When the link is down, of course I cannot connect to anything. Also, how do I avoid getting these annoying messages? are you sure this isn't a problem with your connection? do you get similar messages on your freebsd box? i think the easiest way to keep those messages off your console is to redirect them in /etc/syslog.conf(5) 2 - Doing a 'man-k some_command' (or man -f some_command) does not work. Is there a misconfiguration somewhere? man -k searches for keywords, not commands... or do you mean that it just doesn't work at all? i know that man -k was segfaulting on my unstable box for a while, but it's since been fixed and you said you're running stable. if it doesn't work at all, what version of man-db do you have installed? (you can find this out with dpkg --status man-db) 3 - How do I go backwards in a man page reading? Looks like 'more' is used to page the ouput to screen, but 'b' or ^B does not work here. Silly question, maybe... it might be that you only have more installed. try apt-get install less and see if that fixes your problem. hth sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Automatically log in
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 03:46:56PM -0800, Leo Spalteholz wrote: Hi, I'm setting up a debian box to use as an mp3 player for a car.. What I need it to do is automatically login when you power it up. I found some resources on how to accomplish that by patching mingetty but I was wondering if theres an easier way. Any suggestions? i suggested this a week or two ago for someone who needed the same thing. take a look at the rungetty package, and try replacing the entry for tty1 with rungetty. if you want an example, look at my previous post, i don't have it off hand but it's really, really simple. hth, sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mirroring apt repositories?
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 06:30:30PM -0700, Pete Ashdown wrote: Has anyone know of a method for mirroring through apt? I'm aware of apt-move, but I can't seem to get it to do a complete mirror that grabs everything and not just the distribution that I have in the sources.list. It also creates empty directories for all the architectures, regardless of whether they are actually used or not. have you looked at the debmirror package? it does this pretty well, and has examples at the bottom of the manpage. however, i think it only does rsync and ftp. wonder why it doesn't do http... sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: where'd my mouse go?
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 06:26:21PM +1100, Rob Weir wrote: Stupid question: did you include PS/2 mouse support in your kernel? Have you loaded it? No related device nodes will show up until you do. i have: CONFIG_PSMOUSE=m but no module that looks like it ought to be the psaux module. very odd. also, Configure.help in my linux src doesn't say anything about this being able to be a module. i think i'll just recompile the kernel with it built in and report back... sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Some kernel compile questions
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 01:14:36PM +0530, Sukrit wrote: 1. How do i decide which modules to load at boot time, which file is to be edited? (i am thinking that i'll compile support for lots of devices - cd-writer, different network cards - as modules that way i won't have to recompile kernel when i add those devices. So i don't want all my modules to be loaded at boot time. Also, i don't want to dynamically and automatically load/unload modules) /etc/modules 2. What is the function of system.map file, after compiling kernel (the non-debian way) is it necessary to copy the file to /boot and edit lilo.conf to reflect changes. i think it maps addresses in the kernel to symbols 3. i compiled the kernel, now do i need to get kernel-headers? What is the function of kernel-headers? kernel-headers are the headers you used to compile your kernel. they come in really handy for compiling add-in modules later, such as the nvidia drivers, and take up much less space than the kernel source. the best way to make them is to make them with make-kpkg (same goes for your kernel). to do this, do something like: # cp yourconfig /usr/src/linux/.config # cd /usr/src/linux # make-kpkg --config=menuconfig --revision=custom.1.0 binary and then you should have kernel, kernel-source, kernel-header, and kernel-documentation .debs in /usr/src that you can install with dpkg at your leisure. 4. Right now i am copying kernel bzImage into /boot renaming it, and editing lilo. Also for modules i #make modules #make modules_install If i already have the same version of kernel running does old module tree get over-written or not? probably does! note you don't have to do any of this with the above method. (er, it's done for you :) regards sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: where'd my mouse go?
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 10:23:05AM -0500, sean finney wrote: but no module that looks like it ought to be the psaux module. very odd. also, Configure.help in my linux src doesn't say anything about this being able to be a module. i think i'll just recompile the kernel with it built in and report back... gah, still no beans. this is bizarre, it worked in 2.4.18 just fine. i guess i'll try compiling another kernel, without devfs support and make sure *that* works... sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[solved] Re: where'd my mouse go?
so about a dozen kernels later... i reverted to the debian stock kernel for 2.4.20, and things worked on that. so i examined the relevant differences between my config and debian's: 8,11c8,11 CONFIG_MOUSE=m CONFIG_PSMOUSE=y --- debian --- CONFIG_MOUSE=y CONFIG_PSMOUSE=m --- mine the funny thing, according to menuconfig, it should be the way my config has it listed. there's no option to set CONFIG_PSMOUSE to m, it's on or off! so what did i do? i opened up .config in vi, made the change manually, recompiled the kernel, and what do you know, i have a mouse again. the *really* strange thing is that neither CONFIG_MOUSE nor CONFIG_PSMOUSE generate insertable modules when set to m... On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 04:10:02PM -0500, Narins, Josh wrote: Your new mouse (i am pretty sure) is at /dev/input/mouse, which you knew. /dev/psaux (-/dev/misc/psaux in devfs) actually, because it's a laptop touchpad mouse not usb. sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SIS900 DCHP Problem (was: Newbie bull ...)
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 05:06:06PM +0100, Michael Bona wrote: Sorry, I am confused: Detection with DHCP fails - I can confirm that ;-( Then what do you do to make the detection work fine? do you have anything in your kernel logs that looks like: ... Error EERPOM read ... ? i remember a fellow on another list i'm on had a problem with his sis900 card too, it was a bad eeprom that returned bogus values. i sent him a patch that i thought might fix it, but he never got back to me if it worked... sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Working with WAV files
On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 04:07:07PM -0500, David Turetsky wrote: What packages are out there which facilitate editing? a good one that you can run from the command line is sox. it has a bunch of basic effects and filters you can pass the sound through, i've used it in the past and been happy with it sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kernel menuconfig
On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 11:12:09AM -0800, Curtis Vaughan wrote: Has anyone created a file that shows all the options available in menuconfig when doing a kernel compile? how about /usr/src/linux/.config ? or maybe i misunderstood you? you can also see what kernel options are compiled into your current running kernel by looking at /boot/config-`uname -r` hth sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
where'd my mouse go?
hey -user, so i just upgraded my laptop's kernel, threw in devfs, apt-got devfsd, and booted back up with minimal hassle[1]. everything is completely functional and happy, with the exception of my touchpad mouse. the device /dev/psaux no longer exists. what i do have is /dev/mouse - /dev/gpmdata /dev/usbmouse - /dev/input/mouse i messed around with various things (/etc/devfsd/*, update-devfsd) but to no avail. this is very strange because on my desktop which has an almost identical setup (unstable, devfs, 2.4.20), i do have /dev/psaux, which is a symlink to /dev/misc/psaux. has anyone else had this problem, and more importantly, does anyone haev a fix? thanks sean [1] actually, i forgot to install devfsd, and didn't realize until i booted. fortunately i had a knoppix cd handy... pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.
On Sun, Mar 02, 2003 at 05:29:56PM +0700, Brian Durant wrote: Knoppix got finished earlier than expected. I first tried it on another machine on my WAN/LAN to see if the CD would work with another configuration. This went off without a hitch, though it is necessary to prompt Knoppix to search for a dhcp assignment of an IP address by using netcartconfig. I gave the command knoppix noapic at the boot prompt on my daughter's computer, and then used the netcartconfig tool to get an IP address assigned by DHCP. Unfortunately, this didn't work. that's odd... for everything in my lan, i don't have to do anything, knoppix figures it all out and automatically does dhcp. what do you have giving out dhcp addresses, anyway? I added the lines that you suggested to /etc/interfaces (there were no contents to start with in the file). I then rebooted. There was no output to the command # /sbin/ifconfig or ifconfig. However, a new line prompt did appear. that's really odd that this file wasn't there. are you sure you have the ifupdown package installed? try $ dpkg -L ifupdown if it outputs a list of files, then it's probably installed. if it isn't, try installing it. also, just to clarify, you aren't typing those # and $ characters, right? sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 06:17:41PM +0700, Brian Durant wrote: dhcp works in Knoppix. Should I run the same tests that have been posted to me for Deb? What would the conclusions be for my Deb install if Knoppix does work? if knoppix works, it will probably automagically work, because that's what knoppix does. you put it in your cd rom drive and boot off of it, and it figures everything out on its own. so when you get dropped to a desktop, try opening up a browser and go to some website and see if it just works... sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 03:10:14PM +0700, Brian Durant wrote: OK Sean, the output of # /sbin/ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.111 was eth0 Media Link Off. The result of $ ping 216.239.57.100 was Network is unreachable :-( i've never seen that error out of ifconfig before, and can't even find it in the source code for the program. okay, while you're waiting for the knoppix cd, how about you try this: - in /etc/interfaces, take out all lines mentioning eth0, then put the following in: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.111 netmask 255.255.255.0 and then just reboot the whole machine, and see if you get an address out of ifconfig when you get back to a prompt. also, i just have to ask--have you tried this with another cable, and have you tried this in one of the ports on the hub that you know to work? sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 12:34:22PM +0700, Brian Durant wrote: SIS 900 Internal MII PHY Transceiver found. at address 1 Using transceiver found. at address 1 as default. SIS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet at 0xe400, IRQ 11, 00:30:67:06:4f:86 okay, that's Good, it means your kernel sees and happily loaded the driver for your card. By the way, thanks for the tip on the ctrl-c. I seem to not be writing the grep variables too closely first time around and then grep just churns away for hours. actually, it was probably just waiting for input. if you don't specify the file to grep through on the cmdline, grep assumes stdin. try just grep foo, and give it some input by entering lines with and without the string foo in them to see what i mean. ctrl-c kill(1)s your current process. The output of # grep eth0 /etc/network/interfaces was nothing. i was using the # to indicate you needed to do the command as root (as opposed to $, which means as anyone)... you didn't type that part in, did you? if you didn't and just nothing showed up, put these two lines in /etc/network/interfaces: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp then do # /etc/init.d/networking restart Even after the base install, the ifconfig command returns command not found. are you doing this as root? it's possible that it's not in your path for some reason. try again but with /sbin/ifconfig instead of just ifconfig. do this after making sure that the above is set up, and see if you get an ip address. if you don't, you can set it manually with the same program. hth sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.
hi brian On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 04:19:38PM +0700, Brian Durant wrote: OK, I didn't get the difference between # and $. Tried again, in root (#), same result. Added the two lines in /etc/network/interfaces restarted the network and tried again. Same result - nada - zip -zilch interfaces didn't exist? strange... response. No response with /sbin/ifconfig either. Thanks for all your what do you mean by no response was there output, but just not the address? was there an error? time so far. Is there any place that we can go from here? I did a sort of default full install with tasksel and dselect. Got a lot of stuff I didn't want, but even the stuff that I do want will not do any good if I don't get this @£5#+* eth0 working. right. okay, at this point a few things posted would be very helpful. i know it's hard to get it to use without a network, but the following might shed some light: $ dpkg -l dhc* | grep ^ii (this will tell use what kind of dhcp client you have installed, hopefully) after you do /etc/init.d/networking restart, show us anything that looks relevant from: # tail /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog (those two files are log files for various parts of the system) $ /sbin/ifconfig eth0 namely, for the above, we're interested in the first few lines. also, what are you running that's giving out the dhcp addresses? do you have anyway of looking at it's logs? okay, and if none of this works, try this: # apt-get --reinstall install netbase ifupdown pump (pump is a dhcp client that i think is a little less picky than the dhclient -- i don't really like it all that much, but it works) after doing this, try just typing pump in a root prompt and see if magic happens. also, everything else failing, istr someone said something about the sis900 driver maybe not supporting dhcp, so we can try setting it manually. so when you have a chance, go to another machine and find out its ip address, netmask, and dns information. i know on the older windows machines this was by running winipcfg, but i don't know off the top of my head what does it in XP these days. good luck, sean ps - since there are a lot of instructions and questions in here, when you reply, please interleave your responses with the text of this mail, like what's done at the top of this mail, to avoid as much confusion as possible pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 12:07:55PM +0700, Brian Durant wrote: If it is OK with you, I would rather not interleave my responses. I just got over some serious eye problems and find that spending too much time editing and working with the dim Debian text output on my daughter's computer, makes my eyes complain a lot. I am trying to keep the eye strain at a tolerable level. I hope you understand. okay, well then just be extra clear what you're talking about.. The output of # tail /var/log/messages was as follows: sda: status=1, message=00, host=0, driver=08 sda: I/O error: dev 08:00, sector0 unable to read partition table that looks like unrelated errors... The output of # tail /var/log/syslog was as follows: named[170]: exiting (due to assertion failure) lpd[195]: restarted kdm[229]: server /usr/X11R6/bin/ X cannot be executed. kdm[219]: Server unexpectedly dies. Server for display : 0 cannot be started, session disabled. again, unrelated... 1 Ethernet adapter : IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 okay, and since your other box is 192.168.1.101, i think it's safe to assume that your dhcp server is giving out addresses on the 192.168.1.0 network. how about trying to manually configure your device then, with: # /sbin/ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.111 and then see if you can ping some ip addresses, like: $ ping 216.239.57.100 (that's www.google.com). if that works, you just need to copy the dns information over too. sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 02:16:43PM +0700, Brian Durant wrote: The response is not found. Remember, I am still in the install. I the response to what? ifconfig? lspci? also, were you able to install the kernel onto the hard disk? if you can finish the install process and boot off the hard disk (even if it's only a base system and you can't install anything else yet), that's one less variable to worry about. don't have any problems dhcp on any of the other connected boxes, all running a version of Win at this time. All receive an IP address automatically through dhcp. I tried ifconfig eth0 again (had to do a ctrl alt delete to get out of little problem with grep in the ctrl alt delete to what? if you need to kill your way out of a program, try ctrl-c shell as per my last posting and start the install process one more time) and noticed a line with: Interupt: 11 Base address: 0xe400, but everything else is all zeros. I hope this helps, at this point I am utterly clueless. after you boot up from your hard drive, how about # grep -i eth0 /var/log/dmesg and # grep eth0 /etc/network/interfaces good luck... sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: autologin in console mode
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 07:17:33PM -0500, Levi Waldron wrote: Is it possible to do an autologin into console mode? ie, when turning on the machine a particular user gets logged in every time without entering a username or password? It's for a visually-impaired user, so having to type that stuff in before the voice prompts are activated is a barrier even with a simple username/password. Then with an entry in .bashrc starting emacspeak -o the computer will go straight into voice mode every time it boots up. i just got something kind of like that to work. install the rungetty package, and then open up /etc/inittab. change the line that says: 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1 to 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/rungetty -u username --autologin username tty1 -- bash -i where you obviously replace username with the appropriate user. hth sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 03:10:08PM +0700, Brian Durant wrote: DHCP failed. I booted the install with the command bf24, so support for the built into motherboard SiS 900 Fast Ethernet driver should be loaded. What do I do now??? well first things first see if the networking works :) try $ /sbin/ifconfig eth0 to see if it has an ip address. if you're still having issues, it may be that you need to insert a module--so try modprobe sis900 (i believe that's the name of the module, though you might want to double check that). to restart your networking (and give another jab at dhcp), # /etc/init.d/networking restart anyway, if you installed with a 2.2 kernel, then that's probably what got installed on your hard drive. at this point to get a newer kernel on it, i'm not sure what would be the easiest method. normally i'd say apt-get, but you kind of need either networking or the cd set to do that try booting into the installer with the bf24 again, and see if you can skip all the partitioning/mkfs'ing, then mount your partitions, and then re-install the kernel with the installer. sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Ethernet startup problems
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 07:20:39AM -0800, Michael Rudmin wrote: Problem is, after that point, my ethernet doesn't work [RTL8139]. Looking at the syslog, I now no longer see ethernet even mentioned during the startup. Going over to modprobe -c, I again don't see it. So [I'm sure this will seem to be a stupid question] how do I reinstall that module? how about # modprobe rtl8139 or # modprobe 8139too if either of those work, put the module name in /etc/modules, and you should be set. if not, i would guess that you inadvertantly deleted the module or mucked your kernel install. also, hopefully this isn't the case, but from my own personal experience rtl8139 based chipsets are really, really, flaky... Also, how do I know what else has been blown to pieces by this apparent crash? generally, try to use it, if it doesn't work it's probably broken :) sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 10:30:26AM +0700, Brian Durant wrote: OK, I started the install process from the beginning again, remounted partitions, etc. Not only did I boot the install using bf24, but I also chose the long install, to make sure that I was installing a 2.4 kernel from the Deb 3 rev. 1 full install CDs. I tried /sbin/ifconfig eth0 and got a lot of numbers in response that I don't really understand, but what seems to be more interesting, is when I did a modprobe sis900, the response was can't locate module sis900. I then looked under the kernel/net modules for the SiS900 driver and it is not listed .-( well looking at the kernel config for SIS900 in the bf24 kernel config on debian's ftp server: CONFIG_SIS900=y which means it's hard-compiled into the kernel, and you don't need to do a modprobe. can you give us the output of ifconfig? you're most interested in the inet addr field. for example: oil[~]22:59:16$ /sbin/ifconfig eth0 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:06:5B:DC:32:B2 inet addr:130.58.82.95 Bcast:130.58.82.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:7692088 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:91 frame:0 TX packets:8289238 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:1962609489 (1871.6 Mb) TX bytes:341377353 (325.5 Mb) Interrupt:11 Base address:0xec80 the important thing to clean is that addr exists. if you have that line, that means you should be ok. try pinging another ip address, and if that works, try pinging a hostname like google.com According to a posting from Klaus Imgrund, there is a module for SiS900 on the testing CD, but I am unsure what testing CD this is and how I can load the module into the kernel I am installing. or it could be that. can you post us the output of dmesg (or better, put it online somewhere and give us a link)? if it really is recognized by your kernel, there should be something mentioning it. sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 11:19:25AM +0700, Brian Durant wrote: Giving the output is not an easy task, as the computer I am installing on has a USB floppy (the Celvin is a kind of iMac for the PC world) and hopefully will work when I get Debian installed. As the network isn't working either, I can't send it as a text file to another box on my heh... Link encaps:Ethernet HWaddr 00:30:67:06:4F:86 Broadcast Multicast MTU 1500 Metric:1 but you don't have an ip address. this means your kernel see the device and configured it, but dhcp isn't coming through. do you have lines in /etc/network/interfaces that say something like: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp ? also, if this is on a private lan, how about statically assigning an ip address to your card[1]? this problem might be signs of a completely different problem (like faulty cable or connecter or card), or it might just be dhcp being flaky for some reason. hth sean [1] for example: # ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.99 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
serial line laptop console for headless setup
hey -users, i'm thinking that this computer sitting right by my bed, which is on 24/7 and producing profuse amounts of noise, really ought to be moved into my closet, far away from the monitor on my desktop (which would still be used for another workstation that goes on and off) and coincidentally, far away from my bed. so i've got this extra laptop with a serial port, and i'm thinking it'd make a nice console for this machine, such that i could open my closet door, flip up the lcd, and look at stuff if something ever went wrong, and at the same time be able to close the closet door and get a silent night's sleep. so, without even googling or apt-cache'ing, i found /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/Serial-Laplink-HOWTO.gz, already on my system, which looks pretty promising. however i'd still like to field some opinions/experience from anyone on the list who's done something similar, so i might be able to avoid pitfalls, find shortcuts, et c... thanks sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.
heya, On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 07:25:20PM +0700, Brian Durant wrote: /dev/hda7reiserfs9.29 GB(mount point) / /dev/hda5ext215.1 MB/boot shmfs shm 57.9 MB/dev/shm from my own experience, if you have the time i'd recommend splitting that up a bit more. debian likes having big /var directories, so i'd recommend shaving half a gig off of / and making a /var, also maybe have /home separate too, so over ambitious downloading doesn't bring the system to it's knees. sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.
hi brian, On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 09:54:55PM +0700, Brian Durant wrote: So where would I do this in the install process, at the prompt for hda disk partition? Skip over the swap prompt? What comes after, a dialog listing of all the hard drive partitions? /home I understand, but what is a /var? How would all of these partitions look together in schematic form and what values (sizes) do you suggest? Which of these should be ReiserFS partitions / and /home, if I want to use ReiserFS? at some point you'll be asked if you want to initialize/format your partitions. assuming you have nothing important on your system that can't be backed up beforehand (which one really always should do before installing any os), i'd recommend completely starting over from scratch and doing a setup like* /boot 25-50MB swap(amt. RAM x 1.5) / (most of your hard drive) /var512 MB /home 100-500 MB, depending on taste note that this is 4 partitions, so you'll need some logical/extended entries. i think cfdisk does this somewhat transparently for you, but it's been a while... the reason i mentioned /var is because it's really easy for the subdirectory /var to fill up in many situations. for example, a runaway process or infinitely looping bouncing mail (anyone who's learned the hard way about what not to do with a .forward...) might put a couple thousand entries in a logfile in /var/log in a matter of minutes, and if you don't have /var in its own partition, it won't be long before your disk is full and things start breaking. also, debian stores downloaded .deb packages in /var/cache, another reason to limit it. having a separate partition is kind of like putting fireproof walls and doors in a building, it does wonders for damage control. if you're really paranoid, or just enjoy putting up blast doors in your home, you might want to do it. but also, like some folks mentioned in this thread, this isn't exactly the control center for a nuclear reactor, so if you don't feel like spending the time, you can always just have a big / partition and be done with it. wrt to ReiserFS vs. ext2 vs. ext3 vs. ???, i think that's more a matter of personal taste than anything else. also, i'm not sure what kernels support what fs's in the boot floppy series, so you might need to check to make sure that it's supported by whatever you're using to install. hth sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Newbie bull brings own china shop.
On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 10:43:02AM -0600, Kent West wrote: If you're a newbie, I'd recommend taking the first scheme, use Debian for a day or two. Then do the install all over again, wiping the drive, using the second scheme. Then do it again in a week or so, wiping the drive, and making a choice then as to which scheme you feel comfortable using. The first two installs are not for the purpose of figuring out which scheme you want to use; they're just to get you familiar with the install process, kind of like how rebuilding your car's engine will give you a huge education, but rebuilding it thrice will give you an even better education. fwiw, i agree with this, but it also depends on how much time you want to put into learning this stuff. i think if you do it this way, you'll learn a lot more about how your computer and linux (and os's on your computer in general) work, but of course it's more of a time commitment as well (especially if you're doing a net install...). sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OS X Games
On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 02:32:21PM +, Colin Watson wrote: They're not sufficiently similar for that to work, no. Apart from anything else, unless you're running Linux on PowerPC then it's a different processor architecture. Also, while MacOS X under the hood is similar to Linux in that it's a Unix-like operating system, it's a different Unix-like operating system, essentially BSD. that leads me to wonder if it would work on a NetBSD or FreeBSD box sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: your mail
salut, in the future, please make a point to put a Subject: in your emails, as lots of folks often don't read emails without subjects. i would give the installation a try with the 'bf24' kernel. i'm not sure which .iso it's on, but it's definitely on one of them, and you can also get the bootfloppies images off of ftp.debian.org as well. i think that kernel has support for lots more stuff than the standard 2.2 kernels do. good luck, sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: command-line biff?
On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 11:38:29AM -0500, Nori Heikkinen wrote: take a look at mailstat (comes w/procmail), which might do something along the lines of what you're interested in. this only uses procmail logs, though, right? and i can't see how to make it tell me just what's *new* in the mailbox? right. the idea is that you use it without -k, such that it truncates the log every time you call it, and if there's mail in the log, it's new. of course if you've already read it it doesn't matter, so this program does have its deficiencies. plus, if you want to actually keep your logs around for posterity... how does your script do this? sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: debian kernel configuration
hi andreas, On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 09:29:14AM -0700, Andreas J Guelzow wrote: Hi, does anybody know where I can find the kernel configuration for the debian kernels (the 2.4.18-smp to be exact)? I have to recompile the kernelafter changing a few settings and would like to start with the settings in the default kernel (since I know that they are working, except that they don't support all the memory I would like to use). the first place i'd recommend looking would be in /boot if you have the kernel already installed. there should be a config-`uname -r` with your current kernel's config if you've installed a debian stock kernel or one you've made yourself with make-kpkg. if you can't install it, i'd recommend downloading the package and extracting the config manually. hth sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: dpkg package configuration level(?)
hi corey, On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 04:40:33PM -0800, Corey Hickey wrote: Does anyone know what I'm talking about, or am I just massively confused? try # dpkg-reconfigure debconf hth sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Upgrading from Stable to Testing
On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 10:44:16PM -0600, Hanasaki JiJi wrote: IMO, yes. Although, I use sarge not testing to be sure that I dont inadvertantly upgrade to the next version of testing by accident. right, but beware, there's lots of folks who say that testing is worse off than unstable right now, because of the whole gcc/g++ transition holding up all the upgrades from making it into testing... sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kernel produces unresolved symbols
On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 10:50:20AM +0100, Roman Joost wrote: After the compiliation process, i copy my kernel into /boot and reboot. Last time i get some unresolved symbols after a depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.19/kernel/drivers/char/drm/gamma.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.19/kernel/net/ipsec/ipsec.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.19/kernel/net/irda/irda.o This kernel is made by: make menuconfig .. make-kpkg kernel_image make_kpkg modules_image I read that a good kernel is made by: make dep make bzImage etc. wait, which are you doing, the make-kpkg way or the manual way? make-kpkg makes a binary .deb in /usr/src (or wherever you're keeping the source), that you install with dpkg -i. there's no copying of files needed. if you just copy the files you're likely to get symbol version mismatches... I would ask, what im doing wrong in these steps? Is something wrong with my debian way of kernel compilation? it looks like the compilation is ok, but that it's the kernel installation that's getting you... sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Compilation of a single kernel module.
On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 08:24:31PM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote: I had to compile a single kernel module, namely isa-pnp, and did not want or had to compile the whole kernel. I wonder whether the following method is good and will work for other modules as well. i think you can get by just by replacing the kernel headers with what was used to build your kernel (the kernel_headers package if you're using a stock debian kernel or make-kpkg'd your own), and then compiling it as you did in the end of your example, without having to do any make oldconfig etc... sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: command-line biff?
hey nori, On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 05:29:36PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen wrote: does anyone know of a command-line version of some biff or buffy or whatever (mail notification program)? i just wrote a little shell take a look at mailstat (comes w/procmail), which might do something along the lines of what you're interested in. sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ssh problem ssh_exchange_identification
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 01:23:45PM +0100, Rudy Gevaert wrote: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host this looks like a hosts.allow or hosts.deny issue on the remote box... sean msg32175/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: USB mass storage and kernel 2.4.18
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 07:34:22AM -0500, Kevin Coyner wrote: A nice utility to use for figuring out which scsi the device is on is apt-get install sg3-utils hey, yeah, that is pretty nice. maybe i can even use that to get my reader to work as a hotplug device... sean msg32176/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: nvidia driver for debian testing
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 11:25:57AM -0800, Dennis Krinke wrote: Hi, I am trying to install nvidia 3D driver for riva tnt on debian testing, kernel 2.4.20-k6. Originally, I tried from nvidia source, now I am trying from debian packages. I can compile the package nvidia-kernel-2.4.20-k6_1.0.3123-3+_i386.deb, but it does not load. If I try to force insert the module I get many unresolved symbol errors, just like when I tried to compile from nvidia source. are you sure you're building against the kernel headers for the kernel that you're running? if you're running a stock debian kernel, move any kernel source you have in /usr/src out of the way, install the kernel-headers package for your kernel (apt-get install kernel-headers-2.4.20-k6 maybe?), and then re-compile your module against that like you did previously. hth sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: (Newbie) Functioning In Debian
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 09:32:34PM -0500, M. Kirchhoff wrote: Another site I frequent uses streaming Windows Media. Am I totally out of luck there? I know there's this Crossover package that will run WM, but it's definitely non-free. I haven't run into needing RealPlayer support yet, but I wonder if there's a free clone of that that works under debian-mozilla. no! i highly reccommend mplayer. it's a good, free movie player and it can play a good number of non free formats such as MS asf. the folks who made it are even kind enough to ship it with a ./debian directory, which means that you can: $ fakeroot ./debian/rules binary and then you'll have a mplayer .deb that you can install with dpkg. give it a shot. (note you might need a couple other packages to do this, namely fakeroot). sean pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: USB mass storage and kernel 2.4.18
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 04:15:26PM +0800, Dai Yuwen wrote: excellent :) question: if you plug yours in and unplug it, and then plug it in again, is it still /dev/sda? every time i do that on mine it changes to sdb then sdc, etc... I've no this problem. But I umount /dev/sda1 before I unplug the USB device. Have you umounted it? yeah. i think it's just a symptom of my reader not being fully supported. but as long as i can get stuff off of it, i'm happy, really. i'm glad i don't have any other scsi devices though, otherwise i'd probably get a little confused. sean msg31891/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: mod_ssl (apache) log entries -- wtf?
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 01:56:40AM -0600, Will Trillich wrote: what does this mean? are there black hats involved? (maybe even a gray fedora?) i'd guess one of two things: a - someone else has messed up a dns entry or href on a webpage b - this computer is trying to test for exploitable weakness in your web server. you could find out for sure by running the packet sniffer of your choice and dumping the whole conversation to a log, and then look at what kind of data the client was sending. oh wait... https... nevermind. there's probably a way to turn up verbosity on apache then :) sean msg31892/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: USB mass storage and kernel 2.4.18
heya, i have it running fine, and i'm balthasar[~]00:13:09$ uname -a Linux balthasar 2.4.19 #1 Sat Nov 16 15:49:07 EST 2002 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux but i believe i've had it working on 2.4.18 as well. i believe you just need more modules installed. here's an edited output of my lsmod, maybe you need some of these other modules loaded too, like usbcore or usb-uhci? balthasar[~]00:13:14$ /sbin/lsmod Module Size Used byNot tainted usb-storage97744 0 (unused) usb-uhci 20908 0 (unused) usbcore54112 0 [hid usb-uhci] vfat9276 0 (autoclean) fat29080 0 (autoclean) [vfat] sd_mod 9932 0 (autoclean) scsi_mod 80296 1 [sd_mod] if this isn't the case, try doing a tail -f /var/log/messages before you plug it in, then plug it in, and take a look at whatever it says for clues hth sean On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 12:46:44PM +0800, Dai Yuwen wrote: Hi, All I've a 64M USB flash disk. I searched the internet, and did the following steps: 1. plug USB disk into my PC 2. modprobe sg usb-storage Then I tried to mount it: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt But a messages said `/dev/sda1 is not a valid block device'. Then I checked this file: 3. cat /proc/scsi/scsi Attached device: none I use the stock kernel image of debian: uname -r 2.4.18-686 I also found some info that said kernel 2.4.18 had some problem in USB. Is that true? If yes, I'll have to compile another version of Linux kernel. Any idea? Thanks in advance. best regards, Dai Yuwen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg31810/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Explorer-type file manager
hey bill, if you're reluctant to try and install gnome or kde, i'd recommend you download and burn yourself a knoppix CD. if you're not familiar with what knoppix is, it's a bootable linux on a cd, based off of debian, and comes with gnome, kde, and iirc even icewm as options from the boot prompt, as well as a nice collectoin of g* and k* software. it's a good way to get a feel for the different desktop environments, and from my own experience comes in very handy as a rescue cd as well, so it's good to have anyway. sean msg31538/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: jack: coding failed, error#32512
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 02:50:38PM -0500, Thomas H. George,,, wrote: I want to try mp3. I used apt-get to install jack. From the description I expected to work with its standard .jackrc file. It started smoothly using cdparanoia but, when the first cd track was extracted the error#32512 appeared. The man page for jack suggested other man pages including lame(1). I have no such man page and apt-cache search lame does not find a page with this name although there is a glame. lame is your mp3 encoder, and isn't available in debian because it's technically (though debatebly) illegal to not pay frauenhoeffer a royalty for using an mp3 encoder. if you happen to find the source code for lame online, however, you'll notice it ships with a ./debian directory, meaning you can do something like fakeroot ./debian/rules binary and presto have your own .deb for lame. anyway, if it's not installed, i'd guess that's why you can't make mp3's unless you have another one installed. _However_, i'd suggest you consider migrating to ogg vorbis. smaller file size and better sound quality at the same time i've found, and it's supported by the latest versions of mp3 players for all os's. i don't know about jack, but abcde (another friendly frontend) handles both ogg and mp3 quite well. hth sean msg31584/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Explorer-type file manager
hey bill, for folks who are really wanting a windows-like environment, i'd recommend going with a gnome or kde desktop environment. both come with built in file browsers, and i believe that they both also provide the click and go functionality for desktop icons as well. i don't know too much about installing either on your desktop, because i'm rather happy with fvwm2 personally, but i've sat down at debian stations running both kde and gnome, and found that both were quite featureful and user-friendly (though i don't remember what the default underlying window manager was in either case). sean On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 03:54:38PM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: Trying to ease the transition to Linux for the family, I'd like a MS Windows-like Explorer file manager, both in look and usage. Not that icon view, just the plain old Explore with directories on the left and directory contents on the right. And where I can configure what mouse buttons do for each file type (e.g. right click on .mp3 and select from menu xmms play, xmms queue, or mpg123, or scp to some set machine). Also click on column titles to sort by that column. Window manager is icewm. I like Rox and FileRunner and a few others, but this is a case where I'm trying to make it feel a lot like Windows. Thanks, -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg31378/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] hardware failure
hey nori, On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 12:47:25PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen wrote: My computer has been on a downward spiral for a while now[1], but i've been too busy to deal with it. Now it won't even go into single-user mode. It just hangs at the boot prompt. Says, Loading linux and then prints anywhere from one to ten .'s before hanging. It's not the hard drive -- I replaced it and did a clean install. It's not the memory -- I have new 256M in there. The motherboard?? I'm clueless. given that you've basically replaced everything else, i would guess that it is something on your motherboard. if i were forced to be more specific, i'd guess your ide controller. if you have a rescue floppy, can you boot off of that? if your cd drive is on a different ide chain, can you boot from that? if you move your hard drive to a different ide chain, does it boot? have there been any other symptoms lately while you were running your machine (like inexplicable crashes or filesystem corruption)? have there been any other incidents involving deers and sub-zero temperatures in your room since your last publication? sean msg31124/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 16MB not enough to install
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 09:07:13PM -0500, Tom Allison wrote: What's the catch? just an idea, how about doubling your swap space to 32 MB? hth sean msg31206/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Using multiple keys with ssh-agent
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 10:48:24PM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: then added the new public key to remote's .ssh/authorized_keys2 file. I also prepended command=pine -i to that new public key. heh, sweet. Any tricks to signal ssh-agent which key set to use when running ssh? is it a passphraseless key? if so, you could unset the ssh-agent environment variables for that command, then explicitly use the key... if not (though this will mean you don't get to use your l33t double-key scheme), you could just have the command do ssh username@host pine, right? sean msg31229/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: more kernel questions
hey richard, one thing i'd check is if lilo is configured correctly. for example, perhaps lilo is set to boot from /vmlinuz (where that is still a symlink to /boot/vmlinuz-2.3.16-586tsc) and the kernel package installed it in /boot/vmlinuz (as a symlink to /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18)? sean On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 12:54:02AM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: I've just compiled and installed a new kernel, using make-kpkg. However, I'm not sure it's actually running. uname -a still gives me 2.4.18-586tsc, which is the old one - my new kernel doesn't have the 586tsc bit on the end of the name, and in any case is a 686 kernel - I've recently upgraded the motherboard. Also, all the references during boot are to /lib/modules/2.3.18-586tsc, rather than /lib/modules/2.4.18. lilo was run by the install script, and I've run it again to make sure. Is there something else I've missed? Thanks, Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg30907/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Compiling kernel source
heya, the -bf2.4 is just a suffix added to say that the kernel was the one that came with the bf2.4 installer (bf==boot floppies). the kernel-source you want is kernel-source-2.4.18 (or .19, or .20). your real problem right now is that you still seem to be booting with your old kernel. check that lilo.conf is pointing to the right vmlinuz symlink, and if not, fix the symlink (or the entry in lilo.conf) and re-run lilo. hth sean ps - any reason for the double spacing? On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 11:54:36AM -0500, David Turetsky wrote: To accomodate a new modem's support under linux, I have just tried to recompile the kernel and them install the modem's software support. Previously I had installed a pre-compiled version of Woody (3.0r1) from CDs. 'uname -r' gives '2.4.18-bf2.4' but 'apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.18-bf2.4' replies 'Couldn't find package ... -bf2.4' so I installed 2.4.18. The installation went fine. Quite interesting Now when I run isnmod pctel.o from its directory I get: pctel.o: kernel-model version mismatch pctel.o was compiled for kernel version 2.4.18 while this kernel is version 2.4.18-bf2.4 I'm advised that isnmod is supposed to recognize pctel from any directory but that didn't happen so I cd'd to its directory. Similarly 'insmod pctel' did not work even in the appropriate directory I assume the installation process maintained the more current bf2.4 kernel and my other difficulty arose from the mismatch. How do I install bf2.4 from source (indeed, how do I find it) to make eveyone happy -- David msg30917/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Compiling kernel source
On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 02:12:35PM -0500, David Turetsky wrote: Following your instructions, I edited lilo.conf and commented out the 4 lines about image=/vmlinuz.old, which appeared with the new image=/vmlinux entries, then ran lilo. Same problem. Rebooted. Same problem. Ran tar, configure, make, make install again as su on the PCTel package. Same problem BTW, continuing my elementary education, how would you otherwise fix the symlink well i'm not sure if you've done it already, but what i meant was make sure that it's pointing at what you think it's pointing at (i.e.: ls -l). if it isn't, do ln -sf /boot/vmlinuz-yourversionhere /vmlinuz in lilo.conf, you should have an image=/vmlinuz (or /boot/vmlinuz) which points to this symlink. also, you don't want to comment out the vmlinuz.old entries, they point to the second-most-recent kernel, in the case that you find yourself booting with an unbootable kernel. hth sean msg30937/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: more kernel questions
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 09:11:47AM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: Thanks, but no, I checked the symlinks, and /vmlinuz and the old version both point to the correct places (as do the initrd ones). hmm... well, could you post your - lilo.conf - ls -l /vmlinuz - ls -l /boot or, more preferably, make it available online somewhere? sean msg30946/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
