Re: Problems installing Perl modules with CPAN on Wheezy

2014-06-28 Thread slitt
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 21:25:41 -0700
David Christensen dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote:

 On 06/27/2014 09:15 AM, Darac Marjal wrote:
  For the record, you might find it more useful to check if Debian
  has a package first, before resorting to CPAN.
 
 +1
 
 
 I've destabilized Debian stable with non-Debian software, including
 CPAN modules.  Now I am loath to install anything except via
 'apt-get'.


LOL, at a client's place, I was trying to customize the
Perl-written Interchange web store software (don't ever use it, it's
an atrocity) on circa 2003 Red Hat, and had to use CPAN for a new
capability. That CPAN download broke the client's Vim and some other
softwares. It took me 2 hours to undo the damage.

That was the beginning of the end of my relationship with Perl.

Steve

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Re: Problems installing Perl modules with CPAN on Wheezy

2014-06-28 Thread slitt
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 01:59:31 +1200
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:

 On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 09:14:09AM -0400, slitt wrote:
  On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 21:25:41 -0700
  David Christensen dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote:
  
   On 06/27/2014 09:15 AM, Darac Marjal wrote:
For the record, you might find it more useful to check if Debian
has a package first, before resorting to CPAN.
   
   +1
   
   
   I've destabilized Debian stable with non-Debian software,
   including CPAN modules.  Now I am loath to install anything
   except via 'apt-get'.
  
  
  LOL, at a client's place, I was trying to customize the
  Perl-written Interchange web store software (don't ever use it, it's
  an atrocity) on circa 2003 Red Hat, and had to use CPAN for a new
  capability. That CPAN download broke the client's Vim and some other
  softwares. It took me 2 hours to undo the damage.
  
  That was the beginning of the end of my relationship with Perl.
 
 That would have been the beginning of the end of my relationship with
 Red Hat! I think you blamed the wrong suspect. :(
 

Yeah, I was already done with Red Hat, and by that time I was solidly a
Mandrake Man.

Speaking of Red Hat, there's a Linux group called LEAP, and 60% of
their technical messages boil down to Fedora screwed me again!.

Steve

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Re: Problems installing Perl modules with CPAN on Wheezy

2014-06-28 Thread slitt
On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 20:01:09 +0100
Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Saturday 28 June 2014 18:07:19 slitt wrote:
  Speaking of Red Hat, there's a Linux group called LEAP, and 60% of
  their technical messages boil down to Fedora screwed me again!.
 
 Careful Steve!  You'll be accused of sniping again. ;-)
 
 Lisi

I don't know why. I'm just minding my own business, lying in the tall
grass, rifle in hand, gazing intently at everything in front of me.

But seriously, Troubleshooters.Com switched from Red Hat to Caldera in
2000, and to Mandrake in 2000 or 2001. The only things I did with Red
Hat after that was:

1) Taught a Linux class using Red Hat in 2003. The class was a dismal
   failure.

2) 2005 to present: Listened to the guys on LEAP say how much they love
   Fedora, but they can't get sound to work, can't get this to work,
   can't get that to work.

3) A couple weeks ago, booted Fedora Live to test whether a problem was
   hardware or software. Fedora did not perform well enough to take the
   necessary measurements.

Boom!

SteveT

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Re: Is grub perfect? (was Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?)

2014-06-27 Thread slitt
On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 09:33:57 +0900
Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 7:48 AM, [...]
  Grub is a *boot loader*.
 
 Lately (last few years), it seems to be trying to do a lot more.
 
  What do you expect it to do? Mind read?
 
 I'd almost say that's one of the things the devs are trying to make
 it do.
 

I have a feeling that a lot of this thread got procmailed to
my /dev/null, but for the person who asked what I wanted it to do,
that's simple: Boot the damn computer with a menu to choose predefined
kernel/initrd/disk combinations, and nothing else. And for gosh sakes,
keep it in one file. If a config option is about pretty, leave that
feature out.

In other words, grub1.

SteveT


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